>absolutely worshipped by every mouth breathing slob around me >even leftists have to toe the line and worship them >half the culture is built around worship of (armed) government employees >oh no my va appointment was put off a week
Im tired of seeing this bullshit line spewed. "We" dont take care of "our" "veterans". Horseshit thats like saying we need gun control. They get sugar blown up their asses their entire lives for as little as two years of work sitting comfy on a base doing jack shit.
>oh no my va appointment was put off a week
You do not understand bureaucratic-homierdry until you're forced to deal with the fricking VA. Gotta fricking provide my fricking tax information for a God damn medical checkup.
a lot of them because they basically should have died from their injuries and a consequence of being "saved" by modern medicine is that they are in pain and agony 24/7 until they finish the job.
>why do the veteran's kill themselves? PTSD? Disfigurement? dogshit benefits that make it feel like what they did was for nothing?
Yes
For me it's spending 8 years of my life being told I'd have gainful employment on the civilian side (I was an electrician and heavy equipment operator in the Army) then going to college and getting a degree, and still only being able to get low wage security jobs because I know how to handle a gun.
I'm about ready to check out myself here pretty soon. And still no fricking gf
And you believed that shit? You wasted 8 years doing that shit when you could have gone to a CC, transferred to a real school and gotten a Masters in that time. You people really are canon fodder lmao. My moron brother did the same thing but at least he's an officer who graduated from West Point
>For me it's spending 8 years of my life being told I'd have gainful employment on the civilian side >I was an electrician
Black person, set up your own business instead of waiting on others to employ you. This is the problem western societies have these days, they just want a pool of cheap labor instead of pushing people to be a self made man.
>You don't have money? >Just invest a large amount of money into a business that will bankrupt you in the likely case that it fails
You fell for the American dream meme dude. Businesses are for people who inherit them or have so much money they can try and fail until something hits, not for wagie.
Sorry buddy, you're just moronic. There is an insane amount of support from the VA that you could take part in to get employment. Your resume skills also probably suck too
>electrician
Dude don't be moronic, thats enough knowledge to start working as a handyman on your own, you could start a small gig promoting yourself in facebook (boomers lurk there for work) or fixing stuff for your relatives/friens, and eventually live from that, or make it a second option to your security gig.
Sorry buddy, you're just moronic. There is an insane amount of support from the VA that you could take part in to get employment. Your resume skills also probably suck too
do you Black folk really think army electricians are in a job? the AIT is 6 fricking weeks, that isn't long enough to learn shit
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And then 4-5 years of OJT and experience in a high-pressure environment.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>AIT 6 weeks >go to first assignment >OJT for a few months >do your job for YEARS
Lmao you have zero ground to stand on here
>OJT >army
sweet summer children
i was a cyber security specialist, i know exactly what the frick hes talking about. most units dont even have the equipment to train their soldiers past AIT. i sat and fricking reimaged government laptops for 5 years
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and to add onto this, the only contribution i was qualified to speak on was the surface-level knowledge of what goes on here, because arcyber has an acute interest in Ganker
5 months ago
Anonymous
I don’t know about the Army, but I was an AE in the Navy for five years, and I know guys who work for places like Boeing now, airlines, and I had someone offering to hire me on at the San Francisco police department, because they use some of the same kinds of helos that I worked on, but I didn’t want to do it anymore.
5 months ago
Anonymous
the navy and air force care about their guys to an extent
the army and marines don't, which is why they make up a majority of suicide cases. army literally trains you wrong as a joke because the "army standard" is much different from what is acceptable outside of it
i don't know what that anon does, but i can almost guarantee you AIT was his only exposure to real electrical work unless he deployed. engineering is a dead-end MOS solely because the "army standard" is far below what the consumer standard is
its fricked
5 months ago
Anonymous
Well that's just downright depressing. AF mechanics have insane employment opportunities
5 months ago
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obligatory
5 months ago
Anonymous
god I miss old Onion
5 months ago
Anonymous
can confirm the air force treats their guys well. My buddy never went to college and went straight into the AF and has a wife + house now at 22. Dont know if he'll get fricked over at some point though
5 months ago
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>AIT 6 weeks >go to first assignment >OJT for a few months >do your job for YEARS
Lmao you have zero ground to stand on here
5 months ago
Anonymous
A friend of mine had the same problem. He worked as an Army Electrician for long enough to dwarf actual senior electrician in the private sector. Leaves the army and has jack fricking shit in terms of credentials, so he ends up working as a literal minimum-wage lackey, can't even qualify for a journeyman, under someone who had less experience than he did. Only bailing out because he entered a different field altogether.
I'm so fricking glad I didn't fall for America's Army or Cowabooty psy-ops when I was a teen.
>come back to the US and buy a brand new red dodge charger and drive home >your enfattened pig wife has neglected the kids and house and has been cheating on you in your long absence and some other man's been near your kids >economy has gotten worse and you're going to lose your house >no one cares >you're truly alone >shoot family in the head in their sleep with your police trade-in USP 40 >drive your charger 129 mph into a concrete barrier
Vets are just used, pissed on, and thrown out. They're given what would be considered a pittance if they had just worked in a private industry. Most of the time their skills are worthless outside of the military and they're treated that way until they get a job flipping burgers.
Then there's the many of them who have unrecoverable injuries and illnesses like the Vietnam vets who are developing neurological diseases because of exposure to Agent Orange. Which was something the US didn't acknowledge until just a few years ago when it was too late to do anything about it in the majority of cases who started seeing symptoms in the 90's. Not to mention the family cost of being uprooted to go fight for oil halfway around the world just to come home to see their wife being bred by Jamal, Cletus, and Pedro.
They wonder why recruitment rates are falling but then they refuse to publish statistics like the Camp Lejeune water contamination incidents which lasted roughly 60 years and resulted in most of the people affected by it dying of horrific cancers. Then we wonder why so many vets commit suicide. Video games.
>developing neurological diseases because of exposure to Agent Orange
lol I ended up with essential tremors for life because that shit fricked up my grandpa enough
Imagine enlisting in the GWOT back in late-90s to even the fricking 2010s, and now knowing what you know today.
Breddy depressie. On top of the fact that half of your coworkers still believe the stupid lie while another half thinks it was faked/staged/lazr'd from orbit.
Then you get out thinking you had found a purpose for your life only to have it snatched away and left with, aches, issues, lost relationships, probably LESS money, and maybe some cool stories. That's if you didn't deploy and get hit with an IED.
not exactly high caliber people enlist into shit jobs, given shit units in shitholes, with a bunch of morons, and then some dipshit 20-22 year old LT uses the law to force their guys to suck dildos and lick boots and consume poisons or develop cancers around burning garbage.
Reality doesn't set in for those guys until later that they're just bodies to be used, not special.
Others eventually can't get to grips with the fact that they're being used as pawns to slaughter civilians in a ZOG that is both endowed and obligated to print endless money and finance as much debt as needed to occupy Israel.
They're being used as mercenaries for a hostile government that's infiltrated their own ranks.
Officers literally just buy all their stuff off-base, if they're not outright living off-base. They have no reason to be living on-site unless there's a lockdown.
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Anonymous
Oh yeah, all those officers living off-base in Afghanistan and Iraq, forgot about those lol
With all the talk lately about inflation, stagflation, unattainable homes and the job market being shit on the entry side, has the military gotten more attractive lately?
It was either the last report or the one before that by the Fed where Jerome basically said they're counting on adverse conditions in the private sector solving the recruitment deficits in the US. The way he put it, it's a self-correcting problem they're encouraging through policy.
5 months ago
Anonymous
2024 is going to be a record-low for personnel in the DoD, they are in desperate need of people, it's why they keep cutting standards lower and lower for fitness and dress and appearance.
you never heard about the tons of people that get fricked over and the army doesnt pay them out?its the reason all these vet perks exist when they come back its to give them some cushion incase they get fricked over
A lot of stuff. Recruits are prime gold digger targets, women will snatch them up and marry them right as they're getting shipped out so that they get to enjoy a bachelorette lifestyle full of sex and partying while being funded by the poor sucker living in a trench halfway across the world, then if the guy makes it back home they just divorce him and move on. Even assuming you get back sound of mind and body there's not a lot of employment opportunities for an ex-military, and if you are disabled the government will do its best to avoid having to give you any money. So yeah it's a combination of things, a man will ship out and go through hell thinking that if he makes it back he'll have his life solved, with a pretty wife waiting for him, money, a stable job, glory and recognition, picket fence house with a back yard and kids running around and all that; and ends up coming home to nothing else but a thank you and a medal which is worthless after a couple days when the emotional high wears off, and the realization that they just wasted the best years of their life and possibly their mental and physical wellbeing in the dumbest way imaginable.
my uncle was a doctor/medic who came back utterly destroyed with ptsd and developed extreme schizophrenia in the years following his return, commonly attributed to the stuff he dealt with during his service. killed himself in some lab in california with some chemicals or somethin' because he couldn't take it all anymore.
he was cool guy. he liked rts games and was my first introduction to proper pc gaming.
NTA but my mom made really good broccoli for dinner last night for Christmas and I'm glad I didn't kill myself in 2012 when I almost did because eating dinner with my family is nice
Also I got to coom in a Japanese girl's mouth this year and that was worth it alone
Even if the world sucks you can have reasons to live, anon
When you’re caught in that moment, and see no way out of that situation, and no end in sight to the misery, deciding to punch out on your terms seems like a viable option.
It's never just one thing. Suicidal people weigh the current situation and possible futures and decide whether or not it's worth continuing, but it's not like they can articulate that in the moment. During times of extreme global upheaval like world wars, the suicide rate actually *decreases*. Part of it is people hanging around to see how things play out, if you think you have a clear picture of your fate you're more likely to resign.
Did you ever read the books Tribe or Lost Connections? People in warzones who join little tribes to survive (e.g. people in an apartment building during a civil war) tend to describe that period of their life as the happiest, the most beautiful and meaningful. Humans are meant to live in tribes in struggle for survival where our actions have clear and immediate effects, we are wired for it. The world of predictable bounty that removes us far from the ends of our work is a spiritual numbing agent, that's why these people are reported their trials as feeling like the only time they were ever actually alive. That's why the suicide rate goes down.
I haven't, I'll check them out though. What you wrote does make sense, I personally get the feeling that modern society is a bit like raising animals in an enclosure, they're technically better off that way but you end up forcing issues on them that they wouldn't have in the wild.
Argh shiver me timbers ahoy matey white whale off the port bow starboard side blast ye with me hand cannon and chop at ye with cutlasses
Sorry... buddy but I'm no pirate
everything about that video was fricking bizarre, the ringtone, the way his face exploded, the little dog, the fricking cops showing up in flip-flops...
the zelda shield on his room made me realize how brainrotted this place made me, was instantly thinking of tendie shitposting instead of a fellow human being dying
my friends who are or were in the military had a technical certification/college degree on the side like information tech or they are enlisted in the air force. I'd imagine if u go solely into military and stop doing that, you dont have much to apply for since being a veteran is a bonus and not a requirement since i cant imagine what skills shooting guns and doing legwork will get you far as a helicopter tech/pilot
NOW!
Now what?
was losing his job and gf really reason enough to an hero?
Who knows but dying seemed like the less awful alternative in the moment
imagine having a job and a gf
why do the veteran's kill themselves? PTSD? Disfigurement? dogshit benefits that make it feel like what they did was for nothing?
All of what you just listed and also no support
>absolutely worshipped by every mouth breathing slob around me
>even leftists have to toe the line and worship them
>half the culture is built around worship of (armed) government employees
>oh no my va appointment was put off a week
Im tired of seeing this bullshit line spewed. "We" dont take care of "our" "veterans". Horseshit thats like saying we need gun control. They get sugar blown up their asses their entire lives for as little as two years of work sitting comfy on a base doing jack shit.
>sure you might be homeless but at least the girl at the mcdonalds gives you your coffee for free sometimes
>oh no my va appointment was put off a week
You do not understand bureaucratic-homierdry until you're forced to deal with the fricking VA. Gotta fricking provide my fricking tax information for a God damn medical checkup.
You reek of someone who never made NCO
a lot of them because they basically should have died from their injuries and a consequence of being "saved" by modern medicine is that they are in pain and agony 24/7 until they finish the job.
I would kill myself to if I was bombing children for a living
You get to pay taxes to make it happen
i wouldn't, it sounds fun, especially when those children pack explosives under their shirts
Ywnbaw
>why do the veteran's kill themselves? PTSD? Disfigurement? dogshit benefits that make it feel like what they did was for nothing?
Yes
For me it's spending 8 years of my life being told I'd have gainful employment on the civilian side (I was an electrician and heavy equipment operator in the Army) then going to college and getting a degree, and still only being able to get low wage security jobs because I know how to handle a gun.
I'm about ready to check out myself here pretty soon. And still no fricking gf
Don't do it man.
And you believed that shit? You wasted 8 years doing that shit when you could have gone to a CC, transferred to a real school and gotten a Masters in that time. You people really are canon fodder lmao. My moron brother did the same thing but at least he's an officer who graduated from West Point
You are a strong independent security guard who don't need no womanz!!
>For me it's spending 8 years of my life being told I'd have gainful employment on the civilian side
>I was an electrician
Black person, set up your own business instead of waiting on others to employ you. This is the problem western societies have these days, they just want a pool of cheap labor instead of pushing people to be a self made man.
>You don't have money?
>Just invest a large amount of money into a business that will bankrupt you in the likely case that it fails
You fell for the American dream meme dude. Businesses are for people who inherit them or have so much money they can try and fail until something hits, not for wagie.
Sorry buddy, you're just moronic. There is an insane amount of support from the VA that you could take part in to get employment. Your resume skills also probably suck too
>electrician
Dude don't be moronic, thats enough knowledge to start working as a handyman on your own, you could start a small gig promoting yourself in facebook (boomers lurk there for work) or fixing stuff for your relatives/friens, and eventually live from that, or make it a second option to your security gig.
do you Black folk really think army electricians are in a job? the AIT is 6 fricking weeks, that isn't long enough to learn shit
And then 4-5 years of OJT and experience in a high-pressure environment.
>OJT
>army
sweet summer children
i was a cyber security specialist, i know exactly what the frick hes talking about. most units dont even have the equipment to train their soldiers past AIT. i sat and fricking reimaged government laptops for 5 years
and to add onto this, the only contribution i was qualified to speak on was the surface-level knowledge of what goes on here, because arcyber has an acute interest in Ganker
I don’t know about the Army, but I was an AE in the Navy for five years, and I know guys who work for places like Boeing now, airlines, and I had someone offering to hire me on at the San Francisco police department, because they use some of the same kinds of helos that I worked on, but I didn’t want to do it anymore.
the navy and air force care about their guys to an extent
the army and marines don't, which is why they make up a majority of suicide cases. army literally trains you wrong as a joke because the "army standard" is much different from what is acceptable outside of it
i don't know what that anon does, but i can almost guarantee you AIT was his only exposure to real electrical work unless he deployed. engineering is a dead-end MOS solely because the "army standard" is far below what the consumer standard is
its fricked
Well that's just downright depressing. AF mechanics have insane employment opportunities
obligatory
god I miss old Onion
can confirm the air force treats their guys well. My buddy never went to college and went straight into the AF and has a wife + house now at 22. Dont know if he'll get fricked over at some point though
>AIT 6 weeks
>go to first assignment
>OJT for a few months
>do your job for YEARS
Lmao you have zero ground to stand on here
A friend of mine had the same problem. He worked as an Army Electrician for long enough to dwarf actual senior electrician in the private sector. Leaves the army and has jack fricking shit in terms of credentials, so he ends up working as a literal minimum-wage lackey, can't even qualify for a journeyman, under someone who had less experience than he did. Only bailing out because he entered a different field altogether.
I'm so fricking glad I didn't fall for America's Army or Cowabooty psy-ops when I was a teen.
They realized they sold their youth to zionism
>come back to the US and buy a brand new red dodge charger and drive home
>your enfattened pig wife has neglected the kids and house and has been cheating on you in your long absence and some other man's been near your kids
>economy has gotten worse and you're going to lose your house
>no one cares
>you're truly alone
>shoot family in the head in their sleep with your police trade-in USP 40
>drive your charger 129 mph into a concrete barrier
The realization of being a golem, dying for your master, and going to hell
Vets are just used, pissed on, and thrown out. They're given what would be considered a pittance if they had just worked in a private industry. Most of the time their skills are worthless outside of the military and they're treated that way until they get a job flipping burgers.
Then there's the many of them who have unrecoverable injuries and illnesses like the Vietnam vets who are developing neurological diseases because of exposure to Agent Orange. Which was something the US didn't acknowledge until just a few years ago when it was too late to do anything about it in the majority of cases who started seeing symptoms in the 90's. Not to mention the family cost of being uprooted to go fight for oil halfway around the world just to come home to see their wife being bred by Jamal, Cletus, and Pedro.
They wonder why recruitment rates are falling but then they refuse to publish statistics like the Camp Lejeune water contamination incidents which lasted roughly 60 years and resulted in most of the people affected by it dying of horrific cancers. Then we wonder why so many vets commit suicide. Video games.
Oh don't forget the bodies at Fort Hood ;^)
>developing neurological diseases because of exposure to Agent Orange
lol I ended up with essential tremors for life because that shit fricked up my grandpa enough
>tremors
Like the movie?
yeah, poor guy has to keep an uneven cadence for the rest of his life or risk being swallowed whole
poor son of a b***h
Imagine enlisting in the GWOT back in late-90s to even the fricking 2010s, and now knowing what you know today.
Breddy depressie. On top of the fact that half of your coworkers still believe the stupid lie while another half thinks it was faked/staged/lazr'd from orbit.
Then you get out thinking you had found a purpose for your life only to have it snatched away and left with, aches, issues, lost relationships, probably LESS money, and maybe some cool stories. That's if you didn't deploy and get hit with an IED.
not exactly high caliber people enlist into shit jobs, given shit units in shitholes, with a bunch of morons, and then some dipshit 20-22 year old LT uses the law to force their guys to suck dildos and lick boots and consume poisons or develop cancers around burning garbage.
Reality doesn't set in for those guys until later that they're just bodies to be used, not special.
Others eventually can't get to grips with the fact that they're being used as pawns to slaughter civilians in a ZOG that is both endowed and obligated to print endless money and finance as much debt as needed to occupy Israel.
They're being used as mercenaries for a hostile government that's infiltrated their own ranks.
You act like officers have some special drinking water or don't have to work around burn pits either lmao
Officers literally just buy all their stuff off-base, if they're not outright living off-base. They have no reason to be living on-site unless there's a lockdown.
Oh yeah, all those officers living off-base in Afghanistan and Iraq, forgot about those lol
With all the talk lately about inflation, stagflation, unattainable homes and the job market being shit on the entry side, has the military gotten more attractive lately?
It was either the last report or the one before that by the Fed where Jerome basically said they're counting on adverse conditions in the private sector solving the recruitment deficits in the US. The way he put it, it's a self-correcting problem they're encouraging through policy.
2024 is going to be a record-low for personnel in the DoD, they are in desperate need of people, it's why they keep cutting standards lower and lower for fitness and dress and appearance.
you never heard about the tons of people that get fricked over and the army doesnt pay them out?its the reason all these vet perks exist when they come back its to give them some cushion incase they get fricked over
A lot of stuff. Recruits are prime gold digger targets, women will snatch them up and marry them right as they're getting shipped out so that they get to enjoy a bachelorette lifestyle full of sex and partying while being funded by the poor sucker living in a trench halfway across the world, then if the guy makes it back home they just divorce him and move on. Even assuming you get back sound of mind and body there's not a lot of employment opportunities for an ex-military, and if you are disabled the government will do its best to avoid having to give you any money. So yeah it's a combination of things, a man will ship out and go through hell thinking that if he makes it back he'll have his life solved, with a pretty wife waiting for him, money, a stable job, glory and recognition, picket fence house with a back yard and kids running around and all that; and ends up coming home to nothing else but a thank you and a medal which is worthless after a couple days when the emotional high wears off, and the realization that they just wasted the best years of their life and possibly their mental and physical wellbeing in the dumbest way imaginable.
my uncle was a doctor/medic who came back utterly destroyed with ptsd and developed extreme schizophrenia in the years following his return, commonly attributed to the stuff he dealt with during his service. killed himself in some lab in california with some chemicals or somethin' because he couldn't take it all anymore.
he was cool guy. he liked rts games and was my first introduction to proper pc gaming.
good
total amerimutt death
Frick off Ahmed
Get out of their country first but you can't seem to do that to please your Rabbi masters.
I'm not american, Rajesh.
Die for israel
In the long term no but in the short term the emotions probably overwhelmed him
Was anything that's happened in the world since really worth staying for?
yes
Well, that's fricking news. Name it.
NTA but my mom made really good broccoli for dinner last night for Christmas and I'm glad I didn't kill myself in 2012 when I almost did because eating dinner with my family is nice
Also I got to coom in a Japanese girl's mouth this year and that was worth it alone
Even if the world sucks you can have reasons to live, anon
What is anhedonia for $500, anon.
>Also I got to coom in a Japanese girl's mouth this year
how much did it cost?
naw, gf's are actually gay
When you’re caught in that moment, and see no way out of that situation, and no end in sight to the misery, deciding to punch out on your terms seems like a viable option.
It's never just one thing. Suicidal people weigh the current situation and possible futures and decide whether or not it's worth continuing, but it's not like they can articulate that in the moment. During times of extreme global upheaval like world wars, the suicide rate actually *decreases*. Part of it is people hanging around to see how things play out, if you think you have a clear picture of your fate you're more likely to resign.
Did you ever read the books Tribe or Lost Connections? People in warzones who join little tribes to survive (e.g. people in an apartment building during a civil war) tend to describe that period of their life as the happiest, the most beautiful and meaningful. Humans are meant to live in tribes in struggle for survival where our actions have clear and immediate effects, we are wired for it. The world of predictable bounty that removes us far from the ends of our work is a spiritual numbing agent, that's why these people are reported their trials as feeling like the only time they were ever actually alive. That's why the suicide rate goes down.
I haven't, I'll check them out though. What you wrote does make sense, I personally get the feeling that modern society is a bit like raising animals in an enclosure, they're technically better off that way but you end up forcing issues on them that they wouldn't have in the wild.
Boomer XCOM? Fallout 2 for sure then.
Boomer XCOM is called X-COM
Why did u guys enter the threyad if ur not interested in me question... I must've gotten some interest on the topic 4 u 2 b here
Rule #1: Never post an image more interesting than your topic
Play XCOM, pirate Fallout 2. Don't worry, Todd has you covered.
I like UFO Defense more
Pirate both? What question is even this.
Argh shiver me timbers ahoy matey white whale off the port bow starboard side blast ye with me hand cannon and chop at ye with cutlasses
Sorry... buddy but I'm no pirate
Fallout 2, you mongoloid.
Ok but which has more engaging turn based strategy
>watch the whole video
>some cop walks in from out of frame and just looks at his remains
>"......Jesus....."
welp
>PS5 has no games?
Nobody would care about this guy if the ringtone didn't perfectly time itself to his head exploding.
everything about that video was fricking bizarre, the ringtone, the way his face exploded, the little dog, the fricking cops showing up in flip-flops...
i thought it was a little goat at first
the zelda shield on his room made me realize how brainrotted this place made me, was instantly thinking of tendie shitposting instead of a fellow human being dying
Qrd?
imagine that was his gf calling him to talk about making up haha...
oh thank christ
I'm sorry I'm not in the algorithm of what is currently interesting on the boarbs I still haven't got the probability implant yet
He's still alive.
I'd say Fallout 2, It's a great game.
Xcom reuses a lot of the same maps for missions. It's fun, but you'll eventually be playing the same maps.
If he's """"""buying""""""" there's literally no reason not to get both. Fallout 2 is a 30 year old game that Uncle Todd has him covered on.
his phone ringing the very second after he blew his brains out was his mother, she was watching the stream and trying to call him
I remember seeing that on /gif/, and thinking “Oh shit, the Nerdrotic guy killed himself!”
I'd go with XCOM
“I said a LITTLE off the top!”
video games?
Arma 3 is the ultimate military video game but MGS V is more fun
Wasteland 3
quoted wrong anon. whatev
my friends who are or were in the military had a technical certification/college degree on the side like information tech or they are enlisted in the air force. I'd imagine if u go solely into military and stop doing that, you dont have much to apply for since being a veteran is a bonus and not a requirement since i cant imagine what skills shooting guns and doing legwork will get you far as a helicopter tech/pilot