Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri?

he means an actual searing burst anon,planet is made to process simple worm actions and fungus growth at most,theres no way it can handle 30000 yotabites in a single nanoseconds without dying.

That's why 'sanitise' was in quotation marks, I am using 'sarcasm' here to indicate that 'remakes' of classics are never good. I notice you didn't even deny that these are changes that could be made.

Again, I can point to Dead Space. This happens, and would happen with a remake of SMAC. Modern devs have a track record of being unable to understand even-handedness with ideological conflicts such as this, because everything is so polarised now. You know this, it's why you asked for so many examples because you didn't think I could actually list that many, shutting down the argument in your favour.

Point being, we're better off not getting a remake because nobody could be trusted to do it justice. The game's not even that hard to run on modern computers, the only issue anyone could have with it is that the UI is 'clunky' and the graphics aren't as shiny as they're used to.

I know us commies are poor but you gotta let us know to pay for renting all that space in your head

You're kidding. Frick, that game was on my backlog.

Seconding what anon said. I had high hopes from the creators of Long War and was bitterly disappointed by the game they made. It's not worth your time.

You miss the point. The only reason why the guy in Terra Invicta is South African is because Musk is South African.

can you perpetually offended low IQoids cut it out with the pretending to be a victim all the time

One of the weirdest things for me about the modern internet is the assumption of poor English being due to it being a secondary language of the person typing.
I am much more used to just assuming, perhaps unkindly with what was mentioned above, that they are moronic.

That's a really good point. I think that's what I'll do in future.

Just another day at the UN

>Gaians in Uranium Flats
Always a giggle

>Colonel Santiago replaced with a white man
>With Morgan also changed, and Yang removed after a polite request from the People's Republic of China, Lal is now the sole "minority" character
>game is still considered "more woke" than the original, because that's how the publisher told the media to present it

>other factions will call you out for lowering yourself to it
Then they're really going to hate these planet busters.

Humanity will be saved when it is surpassed.

University without drone problem
what's exactly wrong with that?

university is b f skinner and dr mengels. sociopaths, not autists.

spergs, for that matter, tend to get very emotional when things don't match their expectations.

You wouldn't get it.

>which is something that literally every other faction can make (even Miriam!) without making it their whole philosophy?
No but it has negative consequences for going cyborg if you arent them though.

Technological transhumanism is about as much of an ideology in SMAC as wanting a planned economy. Imagine a faction whose only goal was to create a planned economy, and then when you research Planetary Networks, they just hang around with no other goal or ambition other than to say, "Oh boy, we sure did plan our economy without that pesky -2 efficiency!".

Planned economy is not a future society

>reached that point where I'm holding down on Shift A to end the game quicker
You hate to see it. Nice to see Lal and Deidre fumble over each other while I'm in the sidelines.

What are those things? I don't remember ever contructing them.
Also, as a Gaianchad, I had at least one borehole to every base. You need them to produce all the electric vehicles.

"Future Society" is actually a specific game mechanic in Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri. You can change your faction's government, economic policy and core values, with new technologies unlocking new policies. There's also a fourth set of policies that unlock in the late game, called "Future Society", with the options being cybernetic transhumanism, hyper-fascist mind control and fully automated luxury space communism. In this sense, a planned economy is not a "future society", because it's an economic policy instead.

problem sleuth jumpscare

>new tech, Doctrine: Black Lives Matter, required for democracy SE choice
>aki-zeta is now trans
>quote for transhumanist faction makes borderline explicit reference to being transgender
>social engineering axis for 'minority rights' with obviously overpowered bonuses on the 'good' end
>trancendece project renamed (trans+end = offensive)
>thinkers renamed to be less offensive to the mentally differently-abled
>Sparta with faction leader replaced with a cis huwhite male now has slogan, 'Make Planet Great Again!'
>Russian theme stripped from University faction because they're meant to be good guys
>Domai is black now
>also gay
>labour SE options "Meritocracy" -2 EFF -2 POL +1 WE, "Equality" +4 EFF +10 POL
>BLM, rainbow++ flag and trigger warnings added to spalsh screens

Zak is not fauci, fauci is just evil, he doesn't care about a real science

Yes. It's not the first time the medical community lied about the safety and effectiveness of medicines and procedures.

>She’s the chud leader, they may have different priorities depending on their ethnic background but at the end of the day it’s all just a bunch of authoritarian ruraltards screeching about things that they don’t like.

Wanting to survive on a world filled with hostile aliens and arguably extreme human ideologies isn't really an unreasonable position in the earlier years.
Later years holding so rigidly to that does start to seem a little weird.

She’s the chud leader, they may have different priorities depending on their ethnic background but at the end of the day it’s all just a bunch of authoritarian ruraltards screeching about things that they don’t like.

[...]
They were buttholes who had it coming

Here's the (you) that you so desperately want.

>authoritarian
So?
>screeching about things that they don’t like
So?

Holy shit there is always some exploit in this game I just discovered.

Rover formers.
The basic rovers are annoyingly slow. (Which hurts even more, since they often need to move through difficult terrain to make roads or clear the fungus.)

I feel like formers don't travel enough to need this, but it might depend on if you space bases farther apart.

>he doesn’t plan out his boreholes and condensors in a pattern around gridded out bases. Only a single supply crawler visible
Barf. I’ve seen better. To be fair, you’re not wrong about the farms but manifold harmonics would make fungus squares better than those forest tiles even if your base had a hybrid forest while quantum superformers on maglevs could switch them over rather effortlessly

Sounds like y’all should kiss

No the drones are to reflect the fact that they’re basically a underclass of Guinea pigs. The penalty means that in order to be competitive Zak is basically forced to become a police state and use heavy handed oppression to keep the test subjects in line.

>research doesn't usually requires human testing
It does when you live on Planet rather than Earth and you are struggling to adapt to an ecosystem that is hostile to you in every way. Morgan straight up has a quote where an average person was so unnerved by what they found in a research hospital that he felt compelled to have them nerve-stapled, while lamenting their panicked opposition to research that he deemed absolutely crucial to the survival of humanity, and he’s far from the worst offender. Meanwhile, Zak’s quote about retroviral engineering comes across in a “me thinks thou dost protest too much” sort of way, but the great think about SMAC’s factions is that they all have nuance, nobody really has the monopoly on right and wrong, and which direction they objectively lean in is heavily influenced by in game decisions.

I.E does Zak follow Yang’s example and impose brutal serfdom on his workforce in order to save a buck while their loved ones mysteriously vanish in the night? Or does he go for the growth that democracy offers while gimping his research facilities in order to pay for more social services for his mistrusting and riotous constituents? It really leaves it up to the player to decide just how terrible their faction is

I'm talking about Zak's society, not our corrupted society which is much worse
covid vax was pushed to advance profits of big pharma, not for scientific reasons, Zak wouldn't care about muh profits

Zak can’t go fundamentalist, but he absolutely can go police state in an old school mad scientist sort of way

>it doesn't make sense for most of people in society being guinea pigs
It does make sense to need lots of guinea pigs for stuff like psychology and social sciences though

Lal isn't likely to let the psychology department sneak into some drones' quarters and rearrange things like the stasi just to see what happens.

Precisely because Zak is a physical scientist his approach to social sciences (lots of experiments, no restraining ethical boards) would create discontent.

>how everyone who isn't an intellectual is basically relegated to janitor levels of importance and respect
And you think that is any different for Morgan or Lal? The difference is in how they deal with social stratification: Lal is forced to take democracy so he doesn't have a choice but to invest in social services to placate the wagecucks. Morgan's solution is to make living there so expensive that it caps his base's population at a much smaller size than what is possible in other bases, so the wagecuck stays living with mom and dad in their gated community. Zakharov is untethered to morality so whether he bites the bullet and diverts money to social services or goes full nerve-stapling police state is left up to the player, but either way he deals with worse drone problems than any other faction and it is repeatedly referenced through in game lore that he is notorious for his unethical practices. You'd be unhappy too if you were a wagecuck living in mom and dad's basement and woke up one morning to find that your parents got rounded up by University security forces and sent to clinical trials at the local research hospital and now you're the one who is stuck paying the mortgage.

>Voice of the Planet

>"Imagine the entire contents of the planetary datalinks, the sum total of human knowledge, blasted into the Planetmind's fragile neural network with the full power of every reactor on the planet. Thousands of years of civilization compressed into a single searing burst of revelation. That is our last-ditch attempt to win humanity a reprieve from extinction at the hands of an awakening alien god."

This was clearly inferred as an act of survival, beyond morality, and shows the extreme lengths that Zak was willing to go through towards that end, which is not exactly a ringing endorsement for somebody who puts their sense of right and wrong first. Zak was more of a "knowledge for knowledge's sake" kind of guy even to the point of jeopardizing the life of the Planetmind

>Then again, if Zak was nicer, players wouldn't pick others as much, not a nice gameplay choice.
You can play Zak nicely, just go Democracy and crank up the psych bar so that his underlings aren't disenfranchised and don't feel neglected for not being part of the intelligentsia, and rake in the bonus to growth that democracy brings and the bonuses to research and economy that golden ages bring. You don't have to nerve-staple a single drone.

All of the faction leaders are complex and have things that make them compelling and things that others are critical of, even Yang has a case to make. That's what makes SMAC so enduring even now in our hyper polarized society that tries very hard to paint the world in black and white terms of us/right vs them/wrong. SMAC finds the sweet spot of realizing that at the end of the day, everybody is a flawed emotional being pursuing their own self interests, and different players can like or dislike different faction leaders for different reasons

>I'm well aware. I personally never stapled any drone no matter whom I played, except for Yang. I don't play him at all.
Congrats, treating NPCs with kindness and compassion will keep you off the radar of glowies on the internet

If you do get the urge to play as an evil bastard, police state offers you a much faster and cheaper solution to all your policing problems because you can use cheap scout infantry to oppress your drones and keep them working and cranking out military units without having to bother with silly things like base improvements or psych spending. Once you get Advanced Military Algorithms you can lobby for a repeal of the UN charter and once that is lifted, nerve-staple your entire pleb population and never have to deal with drone problems ever again. You lose out on talents but you were never going to be popping golden ages with Yang, Miriam, or Santiago, anyway. Even Zakharov doesn't really need them as he can run police state and then make specialists like engineers and thinkers to pick up the slack from a dull, incurious workforce that had their higher cognitive functions surgically removed

dos486.com/alpha/ ?
Or maybe just the speedrun archives on the alpha centauri forums, of which that author of that website was the undisputed leader.
Nonetheless, I assume periodic nerve-stapling would be a core part of most player's normal gameplay. Especially in the early game where the benefits are massive and most needed, and the disincentives are most minimized.

>Nonetheless, I assume periodic nerve-stapling would be a core part of most player's normal gameplay. Especially in the early game where the benefits are massive and most needed, and the disincentives are most minimized.
It is for speedrunners and anyone running police state, but you can still beat the game on transcend without it, it just takes longer so there is a greater risk of a conqueror faction coming along and eating your lunch before you get doctrine: air power

It isn't. Morgan actively dislikes intellectuals instead of doers. His talents would be in it for the money. And lal wants to larp at being a regular, normal society in which case it's the normal amount of turning your nose up. They don't get drone penalties.
Morgan doesn't make the bases more expensive the residents themselves expect a higher standard of living since they threw their hat in with the plutocrat.
Your waginess isn't getting rounded up in paddy wagons for robo sutures, not from the start at least. What's happening is that the normal people actually maintaining his academia larp continuously see manmade horrors beyond comprehension as some c**t deconstructed a cow but kept it alive just to see what happens and get really upset at it. Every day is a new protest and picket fence line because the moment they get a volunteer every 4th team is actually unit 731. Once you as the player start to impose policy is when the abductions start, nerve stapling and genejacks and police states and cybernetic societies.

>Millions die to man made famines
Chairman Yang has solved this problem

I've been playing like a scrub

It would be amusing if he did do that, come to think of it
>All you had to do was follow the damn UN Charter, Deidre!

Why should I give more of a frick about some "talent" completely unrelated to the process of the game creation as compared to who was engaged with the game creation?

Because then you end up with dogshit like the novels demonizing Miriam as though the author was dumping their opinions about religion on you instead of offering a nuanced look at what makes Miriam compelling in a place like Planet

Good thing we can disregard it, as

>real canon
The canon goes like that:
game quotes > manual > Ely's Journey to Centauri > Ely's trilogy.

Journey to Centauri was published on the official site, and excerpts from it were included in the manual appendix. However, in JtC Zakharov is still called Saratov as he was in the alpha version, so it should be treated as a secondary cannon. As for the trilogy, it's paywalled and is not referenced in the manual, so who gives a frick.

>As for the trilogy, it's paywalled and is not referenced in the manual, so who gives a frick.

>demonizing Miriam
I've never not had that b***h declare war on me 5 seconds after establishing diplomatic contact.

Might makes right.

They are marching off to war. That involves a lot of death, don't you know.

>That does not change the fact that the United Nations' Human Rights Charter is the canonical form of humanitarianism.
lol
>You may as well claim that Catholicism wasn't canonical Christianity in the middle ages of western Europe.
lmao
You may as well claim Communism is the sole possible end point of human economic systems because it says so.

>supply shipments
There is nothing on a planet that isn't more available in orbit.
Once you bootstrap yourself up there you're sending resources to the planet. Not the other way around.

Trvial, especially at the point in development we're talking about.
Biological shielding is EZ, water does a good job. And water is only expensive to bring up from earth.
Simulating gravity is as easy as spinning around a central axis.
There is shitloads of water ice and volatiles in the asteroids, more than all the available fresh water on the planet earth.
There are infinitely more resources out there, then down here. Once you get offworld and can survive indefinitely, there is ZERO reason to become a planetcuck again.