It's made by frontier developments, who made elite dangerous, planet zoo, jurassic world evolution, and chaos gate, which are all solid titles so I'm hopeful, as the description of the game with the screenshots released so far make it look similiar to DoW and starcraft
Frontier doesn't make "solid" games. They make pretty games that are mindnumbingly easy/shit. Only exception is Elite Dangerous, everything else is a 4/10 with pretty graphics and wasted potential. After the disaster that was Formula 1 Manager 2022 I gave up on Froniter, never buying from them again.
Have they really changed the setting of WHF where relatively weak humans fight everyone larger than them, including abominations, monsters, mutants, deamons, orcs, ogres, etc with nothing but faith and steel to AoS's elite god powered titan warriors with flying tech and combined magic who fight shit their own size?
If the stories are centered around the sigmar blessed giant warriors then it doesn't sound like the weaklings still existing really matters. The answer to the worst conflicts already exist. It doesn't feel bleak and hopeless.
It's not supposed to be bleak and hopeless. AoS as a setting is about a resurgence of order, of Sigmar's strike back against chaos. It's where the name comes from. There was the Age of Myth, where a bunch of mythological shit like gods wrestling planet-sized monsters was supposed to have happened, then the Age of Chaos where the dark gods found the realms and invaded them, forcing the retreat of the order pantheon, and then the Age of Sigmar where Sigmar unleashes his stormhosts and begin taking back the realms. The story progresses, but it's more to create more backdrops for battles and expand the setting rather than to invalidate old stuff.
It's not supposed to be bleak and hopeless. AoS as a setting is about a resurgence of order, of Sigmar's strike back against chaos. It's where the name comes from. There was the Age of Myth, where a bunch of mythological shit like gods wrestling planet-sized monsters was supposed to have happened, then the Age of Chaos where the dark gods found the realms and invaded them, forcing the retreat of the order pantheon, and then the Age of Sigmar where Sigmar unleashes his stormhosts and begin taking back the realms. The story progresses, but it's more to create more backdrops for battles and expand the setting rather than to invalidate old stuff.
said. the point of AoS is kinda of taking back the realms after what was essentially the apocalypse
The stories rarely focus on stormcasts, they Job more than they win. Nagash and his flunkies get the most wins, unless aelves are involved since Phil is an elf player for 30 years.
an early image from their investor reports pretty much confirms Disciples of Tzeentch as the chaos faction. Im banking on either Ossiarch Bonereapers or Nighthaunt for the death faction.
from their investor report shows an Ogroid Thaumaturge which is a tzeentch monster so, probably going to be tzeentch is neat as they're a fairly underrepresented chaos faction, though not quite as underrepresented as slaanesh, guess developers are really scared of boobies.
>AoS games are mostly ?????
Mobile. On PC it has like 3.
Underworlds online was good, but they never updated it for later seasons for some reason.
Stormground had neat ideas but lacked budget to expand upon them.
Tempestfal looked nice, but VR combat was bad.
>Stormcast and Kruleboys
They couldn’t choose any more interesting factions to put in the trailers? Literally just space marines vs LOTR orcs. Put the fricking Kharadons vs the Bonereapers and you got trailer that is 10x more interesting
Sons of Behemat are cool and very nice on the tabletop, but I don't think they'd translate at all into an RTS as a faction of their own.
Perfect. Now, do these stormcast have serfs or servants tending to their EVERY need, and are half the size of the stormcast? And do these serfs also happen to include women too? My friend is really curious, forgive him.
Stormhosts do have regular human followers and servants that tend to menial tasks like cleaning up weapons and armor or carry stuff, but those don't show up in battles because they're much weaker than stormcast.
AoS is 40k-ified fantasy, so it logically follows that all we're getting is spacemarines vs (your choice of chaos, orks or both) in 99% of the games.
It's made by frontier developments, who made elite dangerous, planet zoo, jurassic world evolution, and chaos gate, which are all solid titles so I'm hopeful, as the description of the game with the screenshots released so far make it look similiar to DoW and starcraft
It's because the current AoS "Season" is set in Ghur, where a lot of the fighting is against Kruleboys.
The store page does say four factions though, so odds are it's >Stormcast >Kruleboyz >Chaos faction (Probably Slaves to Darkness) >Undrad faction
The Undrad faction is a tossup. I'm thinking could be Gravelords.
I'd like it to be nighthaunt because they're my fav aos faction and i got a near fully painted army of them, Just need to base em. Also if there's a chance of named characters appearing the I 100% want kurdoss.
>Already confirmed Tzeentch
Neat choice. Glad WH is moving away from Nurgle being the main Chaos God in everything.
Gell maybe they'll bring in Slaanesh if the game gets expansions.
Space muhreens vs orks (lmao it was KAOS) has been the backbone of normie-friendly intro warhammer stories for decades, why change up the formula if it works?
So are the stormcast just spess muhrines but with girls? Are they the fanart kind of femmarines or the "muh lore" kind of femmarines? Asking for a friend.
They're the fanart kind of femmarines. Stormcast girls can frick, and are big muscle girls, some of which are really cute and all of which have literally sculpted abs.
Perfect. Now, do these stormcast have serfs or servants tending to their EVERY need, and are half the size of the stormcast? And do these serfs also happen to include women too? My friend is really curious, forgive him.
Stormcast do have downsides. They lose bits of themselves when they get reforged, and some of the oldest ones are basically automata. They can also be really brutal and uncaring towards regular mortals, and will annihilate regular tribes of people just for living in spaces occupied by chaos forces, regardless if those people actually worship the dark gods or not.
The only downside to stormcast I guess is that every time they die and are re-forged they lose part of their soul until they're just automatons basically
They have downsides, each time a warrior is killed they get reforged snd in that process the lose a part of themselves do the more one gets reforged the more automaton like they become. Also a lot of enemy factions, mostly, chaos and death, have made measures to stop the stormcast from getting reforged.
The recruitment of Stormcast can be a bit messed up as well. Sigmar has to “kidnap” a courageous individual before they die. So if a farmer tries to hold of some beastmen to allow his family to escape to safety, that farmer can just disappear in a flash and the beastmen will descend upon the family. And the reforged farmer probably doesn’t even remember his family afterwards
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Technically he can take their souls after they die. It's the whole reason Nagash is pissed at Sigmar. They made a deal that Nagash would be part of the order pantheon and not be a jackass, but all the souls of the dead would belong to him. When he learned Sigmar had been taking souls to use for his stormcast (and since they get reforged when killed, they never come to Nagash) he threw a b***hfit. It's actually a kind of interesting conflict, because Nagash is absolutely in the right here, he and Sigmar had a deal and Sigmar reneged on it, but Nagash is just so much of a c**t that he takes the whole thing way out of proportion, it's basically Sigmar taking his toys away and him planning on burning the whole house down for it.
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He can use the souls of the dead (there’s even an entire stormhost consisting of reforged ghosts) but it’s impossible to do if Nagash gets to them first. That’s why most stormcast are made from mortals who were about to die (which Nagash also views as a transgression against their agreement)
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Isn't it crazy how the only interesting parts of AoS had to be taken almost wholesale from the old setting?
>So are the stormcast just spess muhrines but with girls?
kinda, they want the posterboys to be an elite faction that's easy to paint so people can get in easy with not too many models
so they kinda copypasted the marines
Stormcast would probably tease Space Marines in friendly about how nice it must be to be future warriors who routinely talk to their god-leader.
Then the Marines would go angry and the Stormcasts would, awkwardly, realize that none of them ever even talked to, let alone met, or even seen the God-Emperor.
Their similarities to marines, if you take the lore seriously, are mostly superficial.
That being said, no shit they're fricking Marines because GW in their infinite competence only fricking knows how to market Space Marines.
I hope that when they release new factions they do it as expansions with campaigns like Dow did and not just single race dlc.
I'm also worried about roster differences. Stormcasts have the most kits out of any aos faction while kruleboyz has little compared.
And then there's the chance of named characters being playable.
As an AoS player and enjoyed I'm heavily interested in it.
Of course I wanna know if the game is fun but I've always enjoyed variety in rts factions. Problem with kruleboyz is that unit wise they have >hero on big vulture >hero on komodo dragon >hero riding troll >foot hero >wizard hero >banner hero >troll carriage >boyz with spears or swords >hobgoblin >crossbow unit >big crossbow
More than half the kruleboyz range is heroes(I'm not counting named heroes)
Which is not much at all compared yo stormcast which have triple that
I'd say they can get away with pretanding spearmen and scrap weapon guys are different things. Plus they could just make KB a monster mash faction with all their trolls and gators, while SCE is more heavy infantry focused
>Waah I was never able to collect the soulful models because I'm a zoomer diapershitter
Seek counsel elsewhere. You can build those skeletons into whatever orientation you wanted to, which is not allowed for Basedmar products.
Will they be okay? Who is the target audience? Most RTS boomers want basebuilding. Zoomies want their games to be even faster and dont really care about RTS(?).
>What if someone made TW:W Siege map auto-resolver, but you get to watch and occasionally activate buffs through an UI
Into mixed/Mostly negative it goes. It's shocking how this franchise can't get good games, even with source material and fans who will buy anything.
>>no basebuilding
Good if it’s gonna be hero focused. Don’t want another flop like DoW3
Just the way it is unfortunately. Hopefully companies learn soon what a piece of shit Denuvo actually is >>"ultra zoom zoom"
I got places to be. I don’t wanna spend 2 hours playing a single match
>No base building
Sounds like Dow 2 and good. It is to Dow 1's shame it pandered to the trends of the time and included it. Base building shouldn't be a part of warhammer.
I like this one too (hasn't been posted in the thread yet).
>I like the models
But you don't even own any models
I hate you. I just moved to Belgium and don't have many new models with me. I've got 3 though, Arkhan, Mort Engine & the aspect of the Sea. Whatever the fish elves main dude is called.
>I've got 3 though, Arkhan, Mort Engine & the aspect of the Sea. Whatever the fish elves main dude is called.
Yeah you sound like an avid fan.
Marketers actually conviced GW to kill fantasy so they can sell ten boxes of fantasy marines, lmao.
11 months ago
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Those are what I have in this country before I moved!
Are these supposed to look like 90s saturday morning cartoon merchandise?
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>out of season april fool's joke
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No I think they look awesome
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You're moronic and suffering from buyer's remorse, aren't you?
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I think the new models look better. Did you think posting older sloppa would convince me otherwise?
11 months ago
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We've already established you have no taste, I'm not debating you, I'm humiliating you.
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>I'm humiliating you
I find it cringe you have that mindset, like you're debating or something instead of just spamming images kek
11 months ago
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As I already told you, there is no debate. You have shit tastes and the juxtaposition of the two art directions makes it adamantly clear which ones were designed by nerds and which were designed by marketers.
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>I'm such a NERD, you guys
I cant tell if you're underage, or you just have no experience in life, so you've gotten stuck somehow forever talking like you're still in high school
11 months ago
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>Alright alright you got me, I was never really that into this hobby and I just figured I'll start with the Basedmar range miniatures, okay?!
I accept your concession, but you really should think next time. Pick your battles better, dumbass.
11 months ago
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Why are you posting sculpts older than Ganker and pretending that's what 8th ed look like? >picrel your blanchitsu serious gritty empire.
11 months ago
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Unlike you I was involved in the hobby during 8th.
I'm not even going to bother reading your posts from this point forward, just posting actual kino because the images alone explain why AoS failed.
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>explain why AoS failed
AoS is doing better sales wise than Fantasy had been doing for most of its life, especially later on.
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>Has to keep coping with the empire
Why not post a picture of literally, literally any other faction and show us how gritty and blanchitsu they were?
11 months ago
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>why AoS failed.
Still salty about the "warhammer old world" debacle, aren't you? I don't blame you.
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Posting a picture older than yourself using literally stolen history sculpts like
>muh blanchtisu
No, only the empire and VC (and literally only these factions) were like that. Because most were stolen history models from the 80s.
Actual WHFB looks like picrel
said and pretending 8th ed looked anything like that.
Secondaryitis, many such cases, sad.
11 months ago
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Outside of Vlad and Isabella, each one of those sculptures were in 8th.
But I already knew you've never played or painted a single mini.
11 months ago
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How does any of this look better than WHFB? It looks insanely cartoonish.
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Because this is the warhammer fantasy counterpart.
11 months ago
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Besides the paint scheme chosen here (which looks good), this is vastly better than the new garbage you posted.
11 months ago
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you're trying too hard. Even the grogs in the /whfbg/ liked the new lizardmen refresh, stop pretending you've ever played this game outside of creative assembly's slop.
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>Even the samegay posts I made agree with me!
You seem very content with your purchase, defending it very nearly an hour instead of posting a single image of your finished minis.
11 months ago
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CAs cold ones look more like the new sculpt anyway.
11 months ago
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Yeah, you'd need to be on some serious cope pills to pretend this looks bad.
I'm a 100% secondary, maybe the game itself is shit but these models look great.
11 months ago
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Yea
Humans are overdesigned/goofy/tacky, but monsters and non-humanoids are great.
Lizardmen look far more alien/exotic.
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I love the humans
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>shieet we straight from Altdorf G
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age of sigmar unironically has a better system than 40k does
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/whfbg/ here, the general consensus was that they look inspired by gay scalie porn.
I do wish that whomstever did the new lizard range, the siggy dragons and the sculpted penis would stop browsing furafinity at work.
11 months ago
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no, that the consensus on the new basic kroxigors because they got that weird jaw thing going on, everything else was received well apart from maybe the weird spacey looking weaponry.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Don't try to trick me. I have eyes, I've seen the comments about the new saurus models and their physique.
11 months ago
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Anon, i dont know boards you've been browsing...
11 months ago
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If you legitimately belive
Because this is the warhammer fantasy counterpart.
is better in any way on any level
No I think they look awesome
purely because AULD GUD NU BAD (like WHFBgays weren't screaming into the void for new kits 24/7) you've legitimately lost touch with reality and should seek medical attention.
11 months ago
Anonymous
you are fricking delusional.
I started playing Lizardmen 17 years ago and i hated the fricking cold one riders from day 1.
The promo pictures with the Dark Elf sculpts looked much better, instead we got mentally challenged diabetosaurs.
Then Dark Elves got newer, even cooler Cold Ones in the 7th edition i think it was and everyone was already kitbashing their saurus riders with the Dark Elf cold ones.
And now they fianlly fricking updated the range, gave us Saurus that actually look like the 6th edition concept at rather than scrawny crocodiles and you fricking spergs act like the 6th edition sculpts were somehow "soulful".
Frick off.
The older 5th edition Lizardmen were far superior to most of the 6th edition range.
There were only two good kits in that range, first beeing the Slann thats timeless and second beeing the skinks that hold up extremeley well.
but the rest? Kroxigors? abyssmal. Saurus? Scrawny and lame, Terradons? rubber chicken. The salamander? looked like Khorne units.
You fricking wannabe grogs are fricking embarassing. Theres plenty of stuff to criticise about the new range but it isnt the fricking Saurus Cav you dunce.
11 months ago
Anonymous
bro frick off already, you literally cannot convince anyone that squated monopose models from 15 years ago look better
AIEEEEEEEEEE TOTAL WARSISTERS 40KWEENS IT'S OVER
THE STORMCHADS, THE OSSIARCH BONEKINGS AND THE CITIES OF CHADMAR ARE HERE..... AND THEY HAVEN'T EVEN REVEALED THE WATER ELVES YET!!
Last time I looked into Age of Sigmar (via wiki) it was one of the worst written things I've ever seen in table top gaming. Just pure by corporate committee slop clearly made to be copyrightable by unispired cheapest money can buy writers, with no care in the world for internal coherence, world building, engaging narrative hook, aesthetic (beyond space marines but fantasy). Has that, against all odds, changed?
And look they added a woman (frick white males) now too lol. At least she's not ugly and black, I guess.
It’s still the worst thing ever. Sigcucks cope and say it got better but it hasn’t. The maps are still trash, the minis are trash, and the lore is the worst of all.
They tried to go for a MtG-like setting so you could come up with unlimited situations for your men to fight their men, but it ended up being so high concept and broad nothing matters.
Like there is a set amount of ulthuan or Athel Loren, if some gets lost there is quantifiable damage. Why should I care that Nurgle fricked up some of the infinite dimension of Ghyran? There's always more besides.
>muh blanchtisu
No, only the empire and VC (and literally only these factions) were like that. Because most were stolen history models from the 80s.
Actual WHFB looks like picrel
>Actual WHFB looks like picrel
If you actually believe that the pic you posted is what the average WHFB model looks like you're hopelessly moronic and it's no wonder that you shill shitmar.
>WHFB >Army consists of a goofy looking dragon among a battalion of functional looking soldiers and siege equipment >Shitmar >Army consists of 10 goofy looking dragons
You sure proved me wrong.
>Still cherry-picking
I'm going to spell it out for you since you seem to be incapable of understanding context: there is absolutely no issue with having *some* high fantasy units that look absurd, the problem is when MOST of the units look like they've been designed by Marvel's marketing boardroom.
Pic related looks like absolute trash because it's literally what the entire army consists of. There is no subtlety and no power-contrast, even WH40k, which is supposed to be the most grotesque over-the-top sci-fi power fantasy imaginable understood the importance of contrasting Space Marines with the imperial guard. Shitmar is a pathetic mimicry of WH40k.
Funny how I can keep 'cherry-picking' all day but you have to post issues of white dwarf from 1996 and pretend that's what WHFB look like after each release.
Why not post some gritty serious helf spearmen? Or bleakswords or WoC?
Also >Marvel's marketing boardroom
Those are (figurativly) literal fricking space marines (which again are older than this website) with a sigmar skin what are you talking about? You can literally see the tacs, devastators, assault marines, a chaplain and a captain. How is their no scaling there?
And as much as I hate to defend AoS you can use free cities (normal humies) units with the sigmarines just like the SMurfs and IG.
no, 40k was made by sci-fi and fantasy fans, and now the lawyers and marketers are milking that nugget of soul for all it's worth. AoS is a living abortion that never had a soul to begin with.
Except it didn't. It was released just prior to AoS and made by the same mongrel staff that barfed the rest of the range.
You have buyer's remorse, you probably didn't even cut your shit out of the spure rofl.
>Remove every bit of charm from sculpts made by evil white men >Rebrand every faction's name so you can israelite with copyrights >Make rules streamlined, but then spread them over 20 books anyway so you can make more money >Also quit making terrain building tutorials, buy our slop instead >Even further destroy faction identities by shattering certain armies into several different sub-armies >Even go as far as removing the most iconic army - Empire - to shove in space marines
Short story is marketers ruined it.
So glad Total war troony secondaries and 40k autists get filtered by this stuff so it wont have the terrible effect dawn of war and total war had on the fanbase. He-man kino incoming.
The only improvement AoS brought was "Roll to Wound" mechanics which was actually a welcomed change.
Laughing hard at the AoS cuckolds ITT coping. It's also very revealing no Smegmar defender is posting his painted miniatures, because even they themselves don't care enough to bother.
The only good thing about Age of Shitmar is that it makes TWtrannies seethe. I'll be happy if this game succeeds and makes them dilate ever harder but I'm never touching this trash.
No one is coming to save you, secondaries, AoS endures, majorkill screams into the void, The old World will fail. Your based-mudcore-peasentpilled setting is a snorefest that couldnt make money over paints.
>painted the bases
You alright. Guy at my old gw chopped up the sprues to fill out his army, got told he needed to paint them and painted the fence posts into looking like orcs.
stormground had potential but the devs dropped it after a couple of balance/bug patches which was a shame, the turnbased rts, roguelite campaign where you basically run a gauntlet for supplies and XP and shit was neat. Had an army painter too which was nice. Dunno about the VR one either.
Stormground lived or died on multiplayer and they did literally everything to frick that aspect up (no hot seat, upgrades from single don't carry over, if opponent rage quits you draw instead of winning). But single was ok until it got too repetative
Yeah, pretty much. I think OP game looks cool though, so I'll be getting it day 1. I need a new RTS.
Stormground lived or died on multiplayer and they did literally everything to frick that aspect up (no hot seat, upgrades from single don't carry over, if opponent rage quits you draw instead of winning). But single was ok until it got too repetative
Because the setting is embarrassingly moronic and possesses none of the charm or grit of the original. Someone post those fricking "world" maps where shit is like "Anus Fart Blood Cove."
WHFB wasn't released at a time when videogames were literally the single biggest entertainment medium in existence. GW must sure hate money or maybe there's a different factor at play.
Do you think a miniature wargame that was marketed exclusively towards nerds not getting a movie adaptation in the 90s and early 00s is the equivalent of AoS not getting games made under it's IP? Are you actually that moronic?
>but the only reason it got absolutely zero notable games is because gaming wasn't popular, trust me bro >so what did it get in the popular formats? also nothing? >w-well yeah but that doesn't count because... it just doesn't okay?!
hmmm
11 months ago
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I'm pretty sure more people played Mark of Chaos in 2006 than there are people who know what AoS is.
Well imagine being a dev and GW comes up to you and says "Hey wanna make a video game with our licence?" and you're thinking about how much money you're going to rake in with 40k in the title, and then they tell you it's the AoS licence. Only the bottom of the barrel devs want to touch that shit because it's not going to pull in enough money to justify what they have to give back to GW.
The lore sucks major ass and it came out when GW was going for >sell the liscences to everyone for bargain basement prices
Period. We're only just coming out of, so 99% of games made during that time were moble cash grabs.
You could also argue CA essentially reviving WHFB made the setting more toxic for other devs.
That is what puzzles me: they give out their IPs to literally anyone who will ask, yet nobody seems to be asking for the AoS IP. Really makes one wonder.
>you're just ignoring those games
The objectively best game Age of Sigmar currently has is sitting at 776 mixed reviews on Steam. Which means that it likely didn't even sell 100k copies in the 2 years since it's release.
an early image from their investor reports pretty much confirms Disciples of Tzeentch as the chaos faction. Im banking on either Ossiarch Bonereapers or Nighthaunt for the death faction.
>Im banking on either Ossiarch Bonereapers or Nighthaunt for the death faction.
Realy hard to guess who that would be since you could make a case for and against all of them. >Nighthaunt were the marketing posterboys when this was in early developmeant, but with the Ghur focus they'd stick out + they mostly just have differently armed infantry >Ossiarchs are the de-facto protags of Death and have established Ghur presence, but i doubt they would bother making more creative Ivory Host designs instead of copying Mortis Pretorians + they're by far the most elite undead in a game that already ahs melee eleite faction >Soulbilight had the big refresh at the crux of editions and are feirly generic/easy to implement, but they don't feel particiulary at home in the showned settign either. Even the beastial ones are more snow theamed >Ghouls would work within the setting and might even be a cross promotion with their next releas, but their current roaster would need streatching and would have to dip into stuff that's either releaseing right now or will in the near future, which probably wouldn't be given to the devs
>No no no, MY models are better and YOURS look like trash >Your taste is worse than mine, because I say so, thus you are a subhuman
Why are you guys like this? Is this just the butthurt directed at others from GW killing Fantasy and pushing Smegmar isntead ?
Oldhammergays on Ganker are mostly just Total War gays that think WHF is just the Empire, Skaven, and Chaos Warriors whining about MUH REALISM.
They are not aware how high-as-frick fantasy the setting truly is.
Because they are, even the most open minded non-shills think they look moronic.
Literally >What sells? >Space Marines >add them, in all colors and genders
They are the peak corpo consumerist globohomosexual heroes
The worst thing about stormcast is that the colours that gw chose as the main stormcast faction is easily the worst looking colour scheme. Just look at any of othe schemes painted by people and they already look much better.
>Oldhammergays on Ganker are mostly just Total War gays that think WHF is just the Empire, Skaven, and Chaos Warriors whining about MUH REALISM.
This sentence makes literally zero sense moron. Total Warhammer clearly displays how high fantasy the setting is and yes, it's still miles ahead of slopmar.
Almost every single person who posts >fantasy is better then 40k
Are contrarian secondaries who only know the setting through TWWH and memes and have never touched a WHFB model
there is literally an alternate build for Kroxigors looking like crocs from total war, though kroxigors never truely looked that way until total war so please be quiet.
Dragon Age, I suppose? If you ask morrowind gays, probably elder scrolls too. Oh, and lord of the rings! To be honest, probably just throw a dart in a random direction, you'll probably hit a fantasy setting people once considered great where they now hate the more recent material.
>looks fun >not interested in SCE >not interested in Orruk Kruleboyz >not interested in Discoples of Tzeentch >only hope is that the death faction is Flesh-Eater Courts or Ossiarch Bonereapers
Wonder if it will do well enough to get DLC.
>Because for it to exist, something better had to die.
It was dead already. AoS was an attempt at recycling of unsold plastic. If it failed too they would just stop making new/refreshed factions and wait until wfb warehous stock runs out
They killed Warhammer Fantasy for it even though they could have just overhauled the rules and added some fresh units. Same with Primaris in 40k. For some reason around that era they decided it wasn't enough to just fix rules, they had to blow everything up in lore
40k was favored more because it made more money. The reason it made more money was because it was more fun to play. They could have just done more fun rules for fantasy.
Thats nonsense. Fantasy was underperforming for years. AoS was a direct appeal to the aspects of fantasy that were still making money. Dump the focus on bland mass infantry, pump up focus on Heroes and Big Monsters. Even then, the infantry they do have is well made.
>why don't some people like it?
Residual butthurt from the End Times destroying their grogshart setting that nobody cared about until it was gone. Now The Old World is coming out to make them happy but their stuck with rereleases of 20 year old model kits and new stuff in Forge World resin so I’m sure their only getting saltier out there
>rts
Okay now I’m interested, the trailer really tried to seem like it was a space marine clone.
Stormcast, Krule boyz/war clans, Slaves to Darkness, and I guess OBR or SBGL for Death. Maybe skaven instead of StD for chaos to cash in on the furrytide from total war.
They listed consoles before PC in the trailer description which is an unfortunate omen.
I dont love the lore of AoS, but many of the models they've released have bern fantastic. A game where those models are well animated and have some additional character could be good, but I have doubts of GW picking a studio capable of a good RTS.
Why do game companies keep making female MC? if she's not half naked and like Lara Croft or 2b you won't sell shit
Is there any game with more than 5000 copies with a lesbian female main character?
Who is this advertised for? Isn't Warhammer some white male nerd thing?
I'll seed it but I won't play that shit.
This looks fricking terrible holy shit.
Age of Shit needs to end.
I want to see more gameplay, but I'm cautiously optimistic.
It's made by frontier developments, who made elite dangerous, planet zoo, jurassic world evolution, and chaos gate, which are all solid titles so I'm hopeful, as the description of the game with the screenshots released so far make it look similiar to DoW and starcraft
The similarity to DoW is what mostly has me hopeful, as well as the quality of Chaos Gate. DoW1 or 2 but in AoS would be great.
>realm shattering RTS!!!
>Also on PS5
lol
RTS games have been released on consoles since the 90's you dumbfrick.
The shit ones.
you're moronic anon, actually seek help
yes, and they were the worst versions or plain terrible games.
yes, that includes your vaunted halo wars.
its shit.
starcraft released on N64 moron
>who made elite dangerous
Just give me a Warhammer reskin of this game.
Thats not a screen shot of starcraft you moron
that's what the game is aiming to be
Frontier doesn't make "solid" games. They make pretty games that are mindnumbingly easy/shit. Only exception is Elite Dangerous, everything else is a 4/10 with pretty graphics and wasted potential. After the disaster that was Formula 1 Manager 2022 I gave up on Froniter, never buying from them again.
its over
I rather enjoyed DoW2's campaign so I wouldn't mind if this was in that style.
>stronk womyn
Looks hypertrash.
Literally have sex
I hope its good but im not gonna care a single bit until its released
Have they really changed the setting of WHF where relatively weak humans fight everyone larger than them, including abominations, monsters, mutants, deamons, orcs, ogres, etc with nothing but faith and steel to AoS's elite god powered titan warriors with flying tech and combined magic who fight shit their own size?
No, the weak humans are still there, they just aren't the main protaganists anymore
If the stories are centered around the sigmar blessed giant warriors then it doesn't sound like the weaklings still existing really matters. The answer to the worst conflicts already exist. It doesn't feel bleak and hopeless.
It's not supposed to be bleak and hopeless. AoS as a setting is about a resurgence of order, of Sigmar's strike back against chaos. It's where the name comes from. There was the Age of Myth, where a bunch of mythological shit like gods wrestling planet-sized monsters was supposed to have happened, then the Age of Chaos where the dark gods found the realms and invaded them, forcing the retreat of the order pantheon, and then the Age of Sigmar where Sigmar unleashes his stormhosts and begin taking back the realms. The story progresses, but it's more to create more backdrops for battles and expand the setting rather than to invalidate old stuff.
Yeah what
said. the point of AoS is kinda of taking back the realms after what was essentially the apocalypse
Whfb and AoS not supposed be grimdark
That 40k thing
The stories rarely focus on stormcasts, they Job more than they win. Nagash and his flunkies get the most wins, unless aelves are involved since Phil is an elf player for 30 years.
AoS is such a shit setting but damn, these models look good.
Human Male Warriors are capable to beating any enemy in any game and fricking any women of other races, it's the rules
So, how many factions will we get?
2? 4?
Steam page states 4 factions, so potentially one from each alliance
sounds good as a start, guess we have to wait and see how many units they include in each faction
Fuk 'umies, simple as
>40K games are mostly shit
>Fantasy games are mostly good
>AoS games are mostly ?????
It looks like they picked Slaanesh to represent Chaos which is pretty bold. It's usually Khorne or Nurgle.
This image
from their investor report shows an Ogroid Thaumaturge which is a tzeentch monster so, probably going to be tzeentch is neat as they're a fairly underrepresented chaos faction, though not quite as underrepresented as slaanesh, guess developers are really scared of boobies.
>AoS games are mostly ?????
Mobile. On PC it has like 3.
Underworlds online was good, but they never updated it for later seasons for some reason.
Stormground had neat ideas but lacked budget to expand upon them.
Tempestfal looked nice, but VR combat was bad.
>for some reason.
Yes "for some reason", we can't conceive of any reason why a game might get abandoned.
There was also Champions (irl+mobile ccg, dead)
Was that some Git only thing? I only ever saw that long on Git art
Sugmar dick
It's Sigma'am to you, shitlord
>Stormcast and Kruleboys
They couldn’t choose any more interesting factions to put in the trailers? Literally just space marines vs LOTR orcs. Put the fricking Kharadons vs the Bonereapers and you got trailer that is 10x more interesting
humans vs vampire c**ts would have done it for me
>Free Cities/Dawnbringer Crusades vs Soulblight Gravelords
FTFY
>>best order faction
Sylvaneth
>>best destruction factor
Sons of Behemat
Sons of Behemat are cool and very nice on the tabletop, but I don't think they'd translate at all into an RTS as a faction of their own.
Stormhosts do have regular human followers and servants that tend to menial tasks like cleaning up weapons and armor or carry stuff, but those don't show up in battles because they're much weaker than stormcast.
>best order faction
>best destruction factor
What's the problem?
>best order faction
Kharadron
>best destruction
Ironjawz. I love the cabbage wyvern they have and the new big pig they are getting soon is fantastic.
>big pig
God I want that model so badly.
>Best order faction
its lizard not troon
True for destruction
Slaver orks = Gloomspite>ogor>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit orks in armor
AoS is 40k-ified fantasy, so it logically follows that all we're getting is spacemarines vs (your choice of chaos, orks or both) in 99% of the games.
The screenshots look OK, need to see more.
Can clearly see the squads here
It's because the current AoS "Season" is set in Ghur, where a lot of the fighting is against Kruleboys.
The store page does say four factions though, so odds are it's
>Stormcast
>Kruleboyz
>Chaos faction (Probably Slaves to Darkness)
>Undrad faction
The Undrad faction is a tossup. I'm thinking could be Gravelords.
I'd like it to be nighthaunt because they're my fav aos faction and i got a near fully painted army of them, Just need to base em. Also if there's a chance of named characters appearing the I 100% want kurdoss.
>Probably Slaves to Darkness
Already confirmed Tzeentch
>Already confirmed Tzeentch
Neat choice. Glad WH is moving away from Nurgle being the main Chaos God in everything.
Gell maybe they'll bring in Slaanesh if the game gets expansions.
>Probably Slaves to Darkness
Space muhreens vs orks (lmao it was KAOS) has been the backbone of normie-friendly intro warhammer stories for decades, why change up the formula if it works?
So are the stormcast just spess muhrines but with girls?
Are they the fanart kind of femmarines or the "muh lore" kind of femmarines? Asking for a friend.
They're the fanart kind of femmarines. Stormcast girls can frick, and are big muscle girls, some of which are really cute and all of which have literally sculpted abs.
Perfect.
Now, do these stormcast have serfs or servants tending to their EVERY need, and are half the size of the stormcast? And do these serfs also happen to include women too? My friend is really curious, forgive him.
Imagine
Sick.
Kind of too neat for a warhammer faction without apparently having any downsides but I guess that's why most people don't really like AoS.
Stormcast do have downsides. They lose bits of themselves when they get reforged, and some of the oldest ones are basically automata. They can also be really brutal and uncaring towards regular mortals, and will annihilate regular tribes of people just for living in spaces occupied by chaos forces, regardless if those people actually worship the dark gods or not.
The only downside to stormcast I guess is that every time they die and are re-forged they lose part of their soul until they're just automatons basically
They have downsides, each time a warrior is killed they get reforged snd in that process the lose a part of themselves do the more one gets reforged the more automaton like they become. Also a lot of enemy factions, mostly, chaos and death, have made measures to stop the stormcast from getting reforged.
The recruitment of Stormcast can be a bit messed up as well. Sigmar has to “kidnap” a courageous individual before they die. So if a farmer tries to hold of some beastmen to allow his family to escape to safety, that farmer can just disappear in a flash and the beastmen will descend upon the family. And the reforged farmer probably doesn’t even remember his family afterwards
Technically he can take their souls after they die. It's the whole reason Nagash is pissed at Sigmar. They made a deal that Nagash would be part of the order pantheon and not be a jackass, but all the souls of the dead would belong to him. When he learned Sigmar had been taking souls to use for his stormcast (and since they get reforged when killed, they never come to Nagash) he threw a b***hfit. It's actually a kind of interesting conflict, because Nagash is absolutely in the right here, he and Sigmar had a deal and Sigmar reneged on it, but Nagash is just so much of a c**t that he takes the whole thing way out of proportion, it's basically Sigmar taking his toys away and him planning on burning the whole house down for it.
He can use the souls of the dead (there’s even an entire stormhost consisting of reforged ghosts) but it’s impossible to do if Nagash gets to them first. That’s why most stormcast are made from mortals who were about to die (which Nagash also views as a transgression against their agreement)
Isn't it crazy how the only interesting parts of AoS had to be taken almost wholesale from the old setting?
I really hate you coom goon trannies.
>Ganker morons immediately like stormcast now that they learn they can go mommy mommy UOOOOHH for them
fricking clockwork
COPE literal homosexuals
>So are the stormcast just spess muhrines but with girls?
kinda, they want the posterboys to be an elite faction that's easy to paint so people can get in easy with not too many models
so they kinda copypasted the marines
>so people can get in easy with not too many models
Bruh SCE have the biggest amount of model bloat
true, but you don't need them all to play the game
Stormcast would probably tease Space Marines in friendly about how nice it must be to be future warriors who routinely talk to their god-leader.
Then the Marines would go angry and the Stormcasts would, awkwardly, realize that none of them ever even talked to, let alone met, or even seen the God-Emperor.
Their similarities to marines, if you take the lore seriously, are mostly superficial.
That being said, no shit they're fricking Marines because GW in their infinite competence only fricking knows how to market Space Marines.
>age of sugma
doa
I hope that when they release new factions they do it as expansions with campaigns like Dow did and not just single race dlc.
I'm also worried about roster differences. Stormcasts have the most kits out of any aos faction while kruleboyz has little compared.
And then there's the chance of named characters being playable.
As an AoS player and enjoyed I'm heavily interested in it.
Why are you getting worried about any of that before knowing if the game is actually going to be fun?
Of course I wanna know if the game is fun but I've always enjoyed variety in rts factions. Problem with kruleboyz is that unit wise they have
>hero on big vulture
>hero on komodo dragon
>hero riding troll
>foot hero
>wizard hero
>banner hero
>troll carriage
>boyz with spears or swords
>hobgoblin
>crossbow unit
>big crossbow
More than half the kruleboyz range is heroes(I'm not counting named heroes)
Which is not much at all compared yo stormcast which have triple that
I'd say they can get away with pretanding spearmen and scrap weapon guys are different things. Plus they could just make KB a monster mash faction with all their trolls and gators, while SCE is more heavy infantry focused
>People pretend that numale shit is better than oldkino
Enjoy your Orruk™ goyim.
Nice 1 body copied 30 times
Mindbroken the Smegma-gay with one image. Your buyer's remorse is showing.
Holy fricking cringe
>our game isnt selling what do we do
>add space marines
FRICK GW
It worked
Age of Sugma is dog shit.
t. Nagash the Seething
>Kill Fantasy just to make more Space Marine garbage
Yup, I am and have been seething for quite some time
Nobody even knew what fantasy was until Total War:Warhammer was announced
was that old fantasy rts any good? I just remember trying it but didn't stick
>cuckgash
>fricking rats in my pyramid
Replace the botton one with Teclis shining a flashlight at him
>Age of Smegmar
Frick off
If nighthaunt are the death alliance faction, and slaves to darkness are the chaos alliance faction, then I WILL buy your game
Death alliance is pure kino. Not a single bad faction. Even the generic vampires have cool subfactions like Vyrkos and Avengori
Tzeentch is gonna represent chaos, one of the promo pics has a tzeentch ogroid thaumaturge(magic minotaur)
you have no home, you are living in the messed up ruined remains of a once great villa and pretending to be descendants of the original owner
Anyone else excited for CoS?
>Sigmarines
I forgot those were a thing
God AoS is terrible
No matter what shill say, I will never not see Stormcasts as anything but trying to push SPESS Muhrines to fantasy with diversity quotas.
There is 0% chance this will be a regular RTS and not some sort of hero-based RTS or something
Why would a Warhammer RTS NOT have powerful heroes?
nice gameplay
>Post trailer
>Show no gameplay
Are these companies moronic?
>Let's just get rid of these aesthetics so we can add Space Marines, they seem popular
Marketers deserve to be shot
??
>Preferring monoposing nu-male basedshit over classic aesthetics
HAHAHAHA you wasted your money, didn't you? Cope more.
bro you're literally defending monoposed garbage, take off the nostalgia goggles...
>Waah I was never able to collect the soulful models because I'm a zoomer diapershitter
Seek counsel elsewhere. You can build those skeletons into whatever orientation you wanted to, which is not allowed for Basedmar products.
>Age of Chadmar thread
>its full of fantasois
>>>/vg/ is for fantasy sisters
>strong wynam crap
no thx
have sex
>no basebuilding
>denuvo
>"ultra zoom zoom"
Will they be okay? Who is the target audience? Most RTS boomers want basebuilding. Zoomies want their games to be even faster and dont really care about RTS(?).
The way they're wording it sounds like it's some sort of autobattler, kek, maybe that's why it's on PS5 too. Anyways
>trusting Frontier
lmao
>What if someone made TW:W Siege map auto-resolver, but you get to watch and occasionally activate buffs through an UI
Into mixed/Mostly negative it goes. It's shocking how this franchise can't get good games, even with source material and fans who will buy anything.
>muh sand castles
Only airmchair pseuds demand this like its some tenent of faith.
We had base minimalist RTS
We had RTT.
Just play Majesty.
>>no basebuilding
Good if it’s gonna be hero focused. Don’t want another flop like DoW3
Just the way it is unfortunately. Hopefully companies learn soon what a piece of shit Denuvo actually is
>>"ultra zoom zoom"
I got places to be. I don’t wanna spend 2 hours playing a single match
>No base building
Sounds like Dow 2 and good. It is to Dow 1's shame it pandered to the trends of the time and included it. Base building shouldn't be a part of warhammer.
We already have Total Warhammer, what's the point of making yet another fantasy Warhammer rts? That's dumb
I like Age of Sigmar
>
Why angry?
I like the models
Understandable
Wish the rest was this good
I like this one too (hasn't been posted in the thread yet).
I hate you. I just moved to Belgium and don't have many new models with me. I've got 3 though, Arkhan, Mort Engine & the aspect of the Sea. Whatever the fish elves main dude is called.
Oh wait, I just remembered I bought models when I first came here before leaving. I've got 2k of fish elves.
>I've got 3 though, Arkhan, Mort Engine & the aspect of the Sea. Whatever the fish elves main dude is called.
Yeah you sound like an avid fan.
Marketers actually conviced GW to kill fantasy so they can sell ten boxes of fantasy marines, lmao.
Those are what I have in this country before I moved!
New Lizardmen look cool too
Are these supposed to look like 90s saturday morning cartoon merchandise?
>out of season april fool's joke
No I think they look awesome
You're moronic and suffering from buyer's remorse, aren't you?
I think the new models look better. Did you think posting older sloppa would convince me otherwise?
We've already established you have no taste, I'm not debating you, I'm humiliating you.
>I'm humiliating you
I find it cringe you have that mindset, like you're debating or something instead of just spamming images kek
As I already told you, there is no debate. You have shit tastes and the juxtaposition of the two art directions makes it adamantly clear which ones were designed by nerds and which were designed by marketers.
>I'm such a NERD, you guys
I cant tell if you're underage, or you just have no experience in life, so you've gotten stuck somehow forever talking like you're still in high school
>Alright alright you got me, I was never really that into this hobby and I just figured I'll start with the Basedmar range miniatures, okay?!
I accept your concession, but you really should think next time. Pick your battles better, dumbass.
Why are you posting sculpts older than Ganker and pretending that's what 8th ed look like?
>picrel your blanchitsu serious gritty empire.
Unlike you I was involved in the hobby during 8th.
I'm not even going to bother reading your posts from this point forward, just posting actual kino because the images alone explain why AoS failed.
>explain why AoS failed
AoS is doing better sales wise than Fantasy had been doing for most of its life, especially later on.
>Has to keep coping with the empire
Why not post a picture of literally, literally any other faction and show us how gritty and blanchitsu they were?
>why AoS failed.
Still salty about the "warhammer old world" debacle, aren't you? I don't blame you.
Posting a picture older than yourself using literally stolen history sculpts like
said and pretending 8th ed looked anything like that.
Secondaryitis, many such cases, sad.
Outside of Vlad and Isabella, each one of those sculptures were in 8th.
But I already knew you've never played or painted a single mini.
How does any of this look better than WHFB? It looks insanely cartoonish.
Because this is the warhammer fantasy counterpart.
Besides the paint scheme chosen here (which looks good), this is vastly better than the new garbage you posted.
you're trying too hard. Even the grogs in the /whfbg/ liked the new lizardmen refresh, stop pretending you've ever played this game outside of creative assembly's slop.
>Even the samegay posts I made agree with me!
You seem very content with your purchase, defending it very nearly an hour instead of posting a single image of your finished minis.
CAs cold ones look more like the new sculpt anyway.
Yeah, you'd need to be on some serious cope pills to pretend this looks bad.
I'm a 100% secondary, maybe the game itself is shit but these models look great.
Yea
Humans are overdesigned/goofy/tacky, but monsters and non-humanoids are great.
Lizardmen look far more alien/exotic.
I love the humans
>shieet we straight from Altdorf G
age of sigmar unironically has a better system than 40k does
/whfbg/ here, the general consensus was that they look inspired by gay scalie porn.
I do wish that whomstever did the new lizard range, the siggy dragons and the sculpted penis would stop browsing furafinity at work.
no, that the consensus on the new basic kroxigors because they got that weird jaw thing going on, everything else was received well apart from maybe the weird spacey looking weaponry.
Don't try to trick me. I have eyes, I've seen the comments about the new saurus models and their physique.
Anon, i dont know boards you've been browsing...
If you legitimately belive
is better in any way on any level
purely because AULD GUD NU BAD (like WHFBgays weren't screaming into the void for new kits 24/7) you've legitimately lost touch with reality and should seek medical attention.
you are fricking delusional.
I started playing Lizardmen 17 years ago and i hated the fricking cold one riders from day 1.
The promo pictures with the Dark Elf sculpts looked much better, instead we got mentally challenged diabetosaurs.
Then Dark Elves got newer, even cooler Cold Ones in the 7th edition i think it was and everyone was already kitbashing their saurus riders with the Dark Elf cold ones.
And now they fianlly fricking updated the range, gave us Saurus that actually look like the 6th edition concept at rather than scrawny crocodiles and you fricking spergs act like the 6th edition sculpts were somehow "soulful".
Frick off.
The older 5th edition Lizardmen were far superior to most of the 6th edition range.
There were only two good kits in that range, first beeing the Slann thats timeless and second beeing the skinks that hold up extremeley well.
but the rest? Kroxigors? abyssmal. Saurus? Scrawny and lame, Terradons? rubber chicken. The salamander? looked like Khorne units.
You fricking wannabe grogs are fricking embarassing. Theres plenty of stuff to criticise about the new range but it isnt the fricking Saurus Cav you dunce.
bro frick off already, you literally cannot convince anyone that squated monopose models from 15 years ago look better
>I like the models
But you don't even own any models
this kind of autism always fascinates me, and I say this as someone who dislikes AoS
For what?
AoS unironically has the best gameplay system of all games workship TTG's
>woman ultramarine
Grow up c**t
HEAR ME ROOAAAAAAAR!
>woman ultramarine
Women space marines were actually canon in 1st edition.
>muscle mommy giantess
Yes please
>That VA
To this day only Relic have ever done justice to warhammer voice work.
It has to be serious and campy at the same time.
AIEEEEEEEEEE TOTAL WARSISTERS 40KWEENS IT'S OVER
THE STORMCHADS, THE OSSIARCH BONEKINGS AND THE CITIES OF CHADMAR ARE HERE..... AND THEY HAVEN'T EVEN REVEALED THE WATER ELVES YET!!
Last time I looked into Age of Sigmar (via wiki) it was one of the worst written things I've ever seen in table top gaming. Just pure by corporate committee slop clearly made to be copyrightable by unispired cheapest money can buy writers, with no care in the world for internal coherence, world building, engaging narrative hook, aesthetic (beyond space marines but fantasy). Has that, against all odds, changed?
And look they added a woman (frick white males) now too lol. At least she's not ugly and black, I guess.
It’s still the worst thing ever. Sigcucks cope and say it got better but it hasn’t. The maps are still trash, the minis are trash, and the lore is the worst of all.
They tried to go for a MtG-like setting so you could come up with unlimited situations for your men to fight their men, but it ended up being so high concept and broad nothing matters.
Like there is a set amount of ulthuan or Athel Loren, if some gets lost there is quantifiable damage. Why should I care that Nurgle fricked up some of the infinite dimension of Ghyran? There's always more besides.
>Age of Shitmar
Bring Fantasy back, you massive homosexuals
Literally only even know of fantasy because of warhammer, stfu
it is coming back, but no starter box and only resin models
Somebody post the image with the Mordheim devs juxtaposed with Age of Smegma basedboys.
Once you see it, all the mishandling makes sense.
>let's turn our gritty, atmospheric dark medieval setting into generic superhero slop
>muh blanchtisu
No, only the empire and VC (and literally only these factions) were like that. Because most were stolen history models from the 80s.
Actual WHFB looks like picrel
>Actual WHFB looks like picrel
If you actually believe that the pic you posted is what the average WHFB model looks like you're hopelessly moronic and it's no wonder that you shill shitmar.
such grit
much grimdark
>WHFB
>Army consists of a goofy looking dragon among a battalion of functional looking soldiers and siege equipment
>Shitmar
>Army consists of 10 goofy looking dragons
You sure proved me wrong.
>functional looking soldiers
Keep digging that grave.
What is your problem with the pic you posted? Are you going to argue that they don't look more grounded than 99% of models in shitmar?
Dual-wielding, mostly naked and long hair is the opposite of functional on a battlefield.
>historically illiterate aos trannie
I think I can suspend my disbelief that an elf swordsman could make 2 swords work in a fight.
You're right the sky cutter is just wild
Let's try the unicycle chariot pulled by dinosaurs, much more down-to-earth and gritty.
Also, I'm not shilling shitmar i'm calling out your secondary blanchitsu mastabatory cope.
Anon, please post REAL coldriders
You've posted AoS trash
>Still cherry-picking
I'm going to spell it out for you since you seem to be incapable of understanding context: there is absolutely no issue with having *some* high fantasy units that look absurd, the problem is when MOST of the units look like they've been designed by Marvel's marketing boardroom.
Pic related looks like absolute trash because it's literally what the entire army consists of. There is no subtlety and no power-contrast, even WH40k, which is supposed to be the most grotesque over-the-top sci-fi power fantasy imaginable understood the importance of contrasting Space Marines with the imperial guard. Shitmar is a pathetic mimicry of WH40k.
Funny how I can keep 'cherry-picking' all day but you have to post issues of white dwarf from 1996 and pretend that's what WHFB look like after each release.
Why not post some gritty serious helf spearmen? Or bleakswords or WoC?
Also
>Marvel's marketing boardroom
Those are (figurativly) literal fricking space marines (which again are older than this website) with a sigmar skin what are you talking about? You can literally see the tacs, devastators, assault marines, a chaplain and a captain. How is their no scaling there?
And as much as I hate to defend AoS you can use free cities (normal humies) units with the sigmarines just like the SMurfs and IG.
Oh look, another intern got carried away and had to overdesign every tiniest speck of the model once again. Shocking.
Why is AOS so soulless?
I just can't get into it
because nagash and simgar got all the souls and doesn't want to share
alright you got me
>OLD GOOD, NEW BAD
You've still got the nostalgia goggles on
I got into Fantasy AFTER it got shitcanned and AOS was already a thing so it can't be that
it's transparently made by a committee of lawyers and marketers
>it's transparently made by a committee of lawyers and marketers
So are 40k
no, 40k was made by sci-fi and fantasy fans, and now the lawyers and marketers are milking that nugget of soul for all it's worth. AoS is a living abortion that never had a soul to begin with.
Look at this souless AoS, shit.
>posting models from the very end of WHFB when they preparing to transition to AoS and already adopted proto-AoS aesthetics
what are you hoping to prove?
>he thinks Soul Grinder is new
the model is
unconvincing and pathetic
None of these models where in WHFB moron, but they were in Shitmar - nice cope though.
secondary moron spotted.
bruh...that came from warhammer fantasy LOL
>forced to samegay because no one fell for it
>Everytime I'm proven wrong it's the same person
My sides are in orbit secondary.
Except it didn't. It was released just prior to AoS and made by the same mongrel staff that barfed the rest of the range.
You have buyer's remorse, you probably didn't even cut your shit out of the spure rofl.
>released just prior to aos
Stop making shit up. it was released a number of years before aos. I started near the beginning of 8th Ed whfb and that thing was there.
>8th ed doesn't count as WHFB
>b...because it just doesn't ok
We're reaching levels of contrarian most Gankertards can only dream of.
>Remove every bit of charm from sculpts made by evil white men
>Rebrand every faction's name so you can israelite with copyrights
>Make rules streamlined, but then spread them over 20 books anyway so you can make more money
>Also quit making terrain building tutorials, buy our slop instead
>Even further destroy faction identities by shattering certain armies into several different sub-armies
>Even go as far as removing the most iconic army - Empire - to shove in space marines
Short story is marketers ruined it.
This is a phone game isn't it
Nah, for some reason only 40k gets those
i will not buy sigtrash
I hate these big ONIONS models that AoS has
So glad Total war troony secondaries and 40k autists get filtered by this stuff so it wont have the terrible effect dawn of war and total war had on the fanbase. He-man kino incoming.
I love this guys Age of Sigmar models
>Age of Shit
The only improvement AoS brought was "Roll to Wound" mechanics which was actually a welcomed change.
Laughing hard at the AoS cuckolds ITT coping. It's also very revealing no Smegmar defender is posting his painted miniatures, because even they themselves don't care enough to bother.
The only good thing about Age of Shitmar is that it makes TWtrannies seethe. I'll be happy if this game succeeds and makes them dilate ever harder but I'm never touching this trash.
No one is coming to save you, secondaries, AoS endures, majorkill screams into the void, The old World will fail. Your based-mudcore-peasentpilled setting is a snorefest that couldnt make money over paints.
>Frontier
Frick 'em. Fix elite you knob head
>He missed out on FaBa and now spends his afternoon defending his AoS purchases on Ganker
Hilarious thread, I'm gonna prime some more rats today.
post models Gankerermin.
your turn
You are literal gutter trash.
>THE STATE OF SECONDARY RATFRICKERS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I guffawed audibly.
That's actually a pretty neat way to make an army on the cheap.
Would people refuse to play against you irl if you turned up with this? Because technically it's still an army
In casual? Probably no. But tournaments have stricter restrictions on what is allowed, so they would tell you to leave
>painted the bases
You alright. Guy at my old gw chopped up the sprues to fill out his army, got told he needed to paint them and painted the fence posts into looking like orcs.
>strong woman
>Godfall aesthetic
yeah dropped
The secondary wakes up in a cold sweat at night to the mental image of the BVLL
Why doesn't Age of Sigmar have any successful or even notable games? It's been out for 8 years at this point.
Have you seen this thread?
Yes I have - point to a single released videogame.
The point being that the old playerbase is toxic towards the new world. I like Warhammer Underworlds though. Not tried Stormground or the VR title.
stormground had potential but the devs dropped it after a couple of balance/bug patches which was a shame, the turnbased rts, roguelite campaign where you basically run a gauntlet for supplies and XP and shit was neat. Had an army painter too which was nice. Dunno about the VR one either.
Yeah, pretty much. I think OP game looks cool though, so I'll be getting it day 1. I need a new RTS.
Stormground lived or died on multiplayer and they did literally everything to frick that aspect up (no hot seat, upgrades from single don't carry over, if opponent rage quits you draw instead of winning). But single was ok until it got too repetative
Because the setting is embarrassingly moronic and possesses none of the charm or grit of the original. Someone post those fricking "world" maps where shit is like "Anus Fart Blood Cove."
yeah those havent been the world maps in like 8 years. you're moronic.
Because nobody actually likes it
Because gw keeps giving the ip to chucklefricks instead of actually good devs.
WHFB had to be out for more than 30 years before it got one (1) notable video game.
WHFB wasn't released at a time when videogames were literally the single biggest entertainment medium in existence. GW must sure hate money or maybe there's a different factor at play.
Oh, is that right? Then how many notable TV shows and movies did it get?
Do you think a miniature wargame that was marketed exclusively towards nerds not getting a movie adaptation in the 90s and early 00s is the equivalent of AoS not getting games made under it's IP? Are you actually that moronic?
>Are you actually that moronic?
You're talking to a smegmarite
>but the only reason it got absolutely zero notable games is because gaming wasn't popular, trust me bro
>so what did it get in the popular formats? also nothing?
>w-well yeah but that doesn't count because... it just doesn't okay?!
hmmm
I'm pretty sure more people played Mark of Chaos in 2006 than there are people who know what AoS is.
Well imagine being a dev and GW comes up to you and says "Hey wanna make a video game with our licence?" and you're thinking about how much money you're going to rake in with 40k in the title, and then they tell you it's the AoS licence. Only the bottom of the barrel devs want to touch that shit because it's not going to pull in enough money to justify what they have to give back to GW.
There are more notable Warhammer video games than there are people who care about AoS.
Shadow of the Hornet rat was notable at the time.
Mark of Chaos was decent too imo.
The lore sucks major ass and it came out when GW was going for
>sell the liscences to everyone for bargain basement prices
Period. We're only just coming out of, so 99% of games made during that time were moble cash grabs.
You could also argue CA essentially reviving WHFB made the setting more toxic for other devs.
GW is fricking moronic with their IP sharing. Look at the modern 40k games
That is what puzzles me: they give out their IPs to literally anyone who will ask, yet nobody seems to be asking for the AoS IP. Really makes one wonder.
People do, you're just ignoring those games.
>you're just ignoring those games
The objectively best game Age of Sigmar currently has is sitting at 776 mixed reviews on Steam. Which means that it likely didn't even sell 100k copies in the 2 years since it's release.
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1233590/Warhammer_Age_of_Sigmar_Storm_Ground/#app_reviews_hash
That looks terrible. This 11 year old trailer is the best
>Age of shitmar
GW just kill it and use the new models to update WHFB. I don't know a single soul that prefers shitmar over WHFB/Old World
The sales of the system tell a different story moron
>Yum yum shitmarslop
>Seething majorkill fans ITT
>I don't know a single soul that prefers shitmar over WHFB/Old World
Literally everyone actually playing those wargames.
At least try
doesnt really need to try when AoS doesnt get outsold by paints.
>get outsold by paints.
>warhammer fantasy being outsold by paints.
That was a sad moment in the history of GW
frick yeah, fantasy space marines! none of that GAY knight shit
>make Warhammer look like Warcraft
Age of Slopmar will never not disgust me
Still coping.
Post minis from literally any faction except the empire.
an early image from their investor reports pretty much confirms Disciples of Tzeentch as the chaos faction. Im banking on either Ossiarch Bonereapers or Nighthaunt for the death faction.
Gotta be nighthaunt
>Im banking on either Ossiarch Bonereapers or Nighthaunt for the death faction.
Realy hard to guess who that would be since you could make a case for and against all of them.
>Nighthaunt were the marketing posterboys when this was in early developmeant, but with the Ghur focus they'd stick out + they mostly just have differently armed infantry
>Ossiarchs are the de-facto protags of Death and have established Ghur presence, but i doubt they would bother making more creative Ivory Host designs instead of copying Mortis Pretorians + they're by far the most elite undead in a game that already ahs melee eleite faction
>Soulbilight had the big refresh at the crux of editions and are feirly generic/easy to implement, but they don't feel particiulary at home in the showned settign either. Even the beastial ones are more snow theamed
>Ghouls would work within the setting and might even be a cross promotion with their next releas, but their current roaster would need streatching and would have to dip into stuff that's either releaseing right now or will in the near future, which probably wouldn't be given to the devs
>No no no, MY models are better and YOURS look like trash
>Your taste is worse than mine, because I say so, thus you are a subhuman
Why are you guys like this? Is this just the butthurt directed at others from GW killing Fantasy and pushing Smegmar isntead ?
I just can't bring myself to give a single shit about AoS. It's just so shit.
Oldhammergays on Ganker are mostly just Total War gays that think WHF is just the Empire, Skaven, and Chaos Warriors whining about MUH REALISM.
They are not aware how high-as-frick fantasy the setting truly is.
They also think anyone gave a shit about bretonnia, which is laughable, its the squat mentality with 40kids.
bump
At least there are people who care about their setting
>WFB is the Empire
That is correct.
I just think that Smegmarines are extremely fricking cringe.
Because they are, even the most open minded non-shills think they look moronic.
Literally
>What sells?
>Space Marines
>add them, in all colors and genders
They are the peak corpo consumerist globohomosexual heroes
The worst thing about stormcast is that the colours that gw chose as the main stormcast faction is easily the worst looking colour scheme. Just look at any of othe schemes painted by people and they already look much better.
Everybody does. Even AoS players in a lot of cases. There's a reason they didn't catch on as hard as Marines did in 40k.
>Oldhammergays on Ganker are mostly just Total War gays that think WHF is just the Empire, Skaven, and Chaos Warriors whining about MUH REALISM.
This sentence makes literally zero sense moron. Total Warhammer clearly displays how high fantasy the setting is and yes, it's still miles ahead of slopmar.
Shitmar being a bad setting doesn't make WHFB blanchitsu gritty 2nd ed nonsense the secondary keeps posting.
Almost every single person who posts
>fantasy is better then 40k
Are contrarian secondaries who only know the setting through TWWH and memes and have never touched a WHFB model
I played Fantasy and 40k back in the day and enjoyed Fantasy more, but that's just me.
Only if i can play the kruleboyz and they don't suck otherwise miss me with the trooncast
WOOOHOOOOOOAHHHHHHHHH
ANOTHER 40K STRATEGY GAME?
REALLY PUSHING THE FRICKING BOUNDARIES WITH THIS ONE ANON!
>Age of shitmar
>Soulless lizard models
>Kroxigors just look like bigger Saurus
Holy fricking shit I cannot express how much I LOATHE age of shitmar
there is literally an alternate build for Kroxigors looking like crocs from total war, though kroxigors never truely looked that way until total war so please be quiet.
I know that you colossal homosexual, I'm just saying the models are hideously soulless
you are a giant fricking queer, shut up
I like Lumineth.
I really need to paint mine.
It's coming home, it's coming home, it's coming ! Warhammer's coming home.
>Warhammer's coming home
But we already got warhammer at home
>GW destroys WHFB
>Blizz destroys Warcraft
Any other ruined fantasy series I can get mad about?
Dragon Age, I suppose? If you ask morrowind gays, probably elder scrolls too. Oh, and lord of the rings! To be honest, probably just throw a dart in a random direction, you'll probably hit a fantasy setting people once considered great where they now hate the more recent material.
Heroes of Might & Magic
Disciples
King's Bounty
Fire Emblem
take your pick
All the new HoMMs aren't canon to the classic HoMM. I'm not even being a mad fan here, they straight up have different unrelated settings.
So? Literally no one plays HoMM for the lore or the plot.
>Literally no one plays HoMM for the lore or the plot.
Knowing Gelu's backstory is mandatory to pass highschool in Poland
>looks fun
>not interested in SCE
>not interested in Orruk Kruleboyz
>not interested in Discoples of Tzeentch
>only hope is that the death faction is Flesh-Eater Courts or Ossiarch Bonereapers
Wonder if it will do well enough to get DLC.
What's up with all the Warhammer/40K games coming out? Is there a Warhammercon or something?
Yes, there was some coordinated event
That's pretty cool
Its the Warhammer Skulls festival thing they do with the giant steam sale on all warhammer games.
I will buy this game because one of the Devs working on it is a really cute girl
post pic
Show her git pushes that made it to production, I bet it's mostly styling and other bullshit
She's an animator
The AoS setting seems cool as a weird ultra high fantasy thing but I admittedly don't know that much about it
why don't some people like it?
Because for it to exist, something better had to die. That's mostly it.
didn't they bring back Fantasy?
They have been working on new models to revive it, yes. It will be to SoS what HH is to WH 40k
>Because for it to exist, something better had to die.
It was dead already. AoS was an attempt at recycling of unsold plastic. If it failed too they would just stop making new/refreshed factions and wait until wfb warehous stock runs out
They killed Warhammer Fantasy for it even though they could have just overhauled the rules and added some fresh units. Same with Primaris in 40k. For some reason around that era they decided it wasn't enough to just fix rules, they had to blow everything up in lore
They didn’t kill Fantasy for it, they killed Fantasy for 40k, and shit out AoS in response to the outcry.
40k was favored more because it made more money. The reason it made more money was because it was more fun to play. They could have just done more fun rules for fantasy.
That’s funny since 40k hasn’t been fun to play since the last time Fantasy was.
Kill Team is much better
Once again inferior to the fantasy equivalent of Mordheim.
Thats nonsense. Fantasy was underperforming for years. AoS was a direct appeal to the aspects of fantasy that were still making money. Dump the focus on bland mass infantry, pump up focus on Heroes and Big Monsters. Even then, the infantry they do have is well made.
>why don't some people like it?
Residual butthurt from the End Times destroying their grogshart setting that nobody cared about until it was gone. Now The Old World is coming out to make them happy but their stuck with rereleases of 20 year old model kits and new stuff in Forge World resin so I’m sure their only getting saltier out there
>rts
Okay now I’m interested, the trailer really tried to seem like it was a space marine clone.
Stormcast, Krule boyz/war clans, Slaves to Darkness, and I guess OBR or SBGL for Death. Maybe skaven instead of StD for chaos to cash in on the furrytide from total war.
They listed consoles before PC in the trailer description which is an unfortunate omen.
I dont love the lore of AoS, but many of the models they've released have bern fantastic. A game where those models are well animated and have some additional character could be good, but I have doubts of GW picking a studio capable of a good RTS.
>sigmar
cringe
ASSEMBLE LE SIGMARINES!!!!
OK
if someone told me these were a new chapter of space marines i wouldn't bat an eye.
disgraceful.
Thats because you dont have a clue and don't collect miniatures, secondary.
>sigmarine slop now with women (and probably gays) for inclusivity's sake
EPIC JUST EPIC!! LE UPVOTED!!
see
you fricking homosexual
age of smegmar is entirely ameri*an fantasy aka boring vague trash that has to have dykes, trannies and Black folk everywhere
Sigma who?
>Age of Sigmar
More like age of gays.
>inb4 3 factions at launch with rest being $20 a piece
its confirmed 4 factions at launch, one for each grand alliance no doubt.
New Warcraft looking good!
Why do game companies keep making female MC? if she's not half naked and like Lara Croft or 2b you won't sell shit
Is there any game with more than 5000 copies with a lesbian female main character?
Who is this advertised for? Isn't Warhammer some white male nerd thing?
I'll seed it but I won't play that shit.
>Who is this advertised for? Isn't Warhammer some white male nerd thing?
Are you compleatly unaware what modern rich white nerd is like?
>7 foot tall buff chick with white hair and facial scars
hitting some of my key fetishes that never see much content. I have no reason to complain.