The Silent Hill 2 Remake trailer did not impress the head of Bloober Team. "It doesn't reflect the spirit of the game"
Piotr Babieno - president of the Bloober Team studio - admitted in an interview that he understands the criticism that fell on the Silent Hill 2 Remake trailer presented during State of Play. In his opinion, the material prepared by the publisher "does not reflect the spirit of the game."
Let us remind you that the trailer with gameplay elements was criticized mainly for its unattractive visuals and the general feeling of stiffness and "wooden" . Judging by the statistics and comments on YouTube, the reception is rather mixed.
- I wrote these negative comments myself - jokes Babieno in an interview with the inwestyc.tv channel . - Quite seriously, we are not responsible for the marketing side. Our partner [Konami - note] is entirely responsible for this. ed]. [...] This trailer certainly does not reflect the spirit of the game .
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Bloober is already shifting blame
Why do people constantly shit on Bloober when they literally admit they're just following orders from the publisher?
Because bloober is a shit developer even when not following orders
I really liked Layers of Fear, great games.
No
ya
They have made 2 passable games - Observer and the first Layers of Fear.
If you think LoF 2 or Blair Witch was good you are moronic. The Medium was boring too.
Stop spreading misinformation, Bloooper team is trying to get the Silent Hill IP since the announcement of Blair Witch game, back in 2017, now that they have the IP they are shitting the bed because everyone is expecting at least a GOTD contender.
It's lacking the bait appeal, try to put Laura being a bratty sexy kid or something like that.
Just following orders didn't stand up in a court in 1946, did it?
Remember when midwits were hyped that Konami announced 5 new Silent Hill projects? So far 2 of them are a complete failure and SH2R is looking DOA.
Silent Hill f will save the franchise… trust the plan
Nope
>chinks and a visual novel “writer” will save silent hill
Lol
>P-Please blame K-Konami
Konami is in charge of marketing, not Bloober
And bloober is in charge of the game and it looks like shit. Promotional material or not everything we have seen doesn’t look good. They are both to blame and it’s hilarious how bloober is already trying to shift it.
>Promotional material or not everything we have seen doesn’t look good
There's nothing except promotional material, the game isn't out.
And it all looks like shit which is why this is ridiculous damage control from bloober
Now that this thread as failed what can I change to have more engagement? The OP picture? The thread title? I really really want to have a massive thread making fun of bloober and sh2 remake
less words
and use pic rel
Boohoo can never satisfy sh2 fanboys
I can assure you there were 0 OG sh2 fans that wanted a remake
>reception is "mixed"
You mean fricking OWNED ?
The action-packed trailer is the least of their issues.
Literally nobody asked for this shit.
This.
I'm someone who typically likes faithful improvements to things, but even I don't want the Silent Hill trilogy touched. Not even the internal resolution or any assets. Horror games were best when we had hardware limitations. The low-budget feel, voice acting, and some of the story pacing, despite any of their flaws, I want all of them intact. I'm usually not one to claim video games are art but there's just something sacred to me about the original trilogy of Silent Hill where I feel like they are best left completely how they are, preserved in a time capsule for all time. If they got Steam ports how the MGS collection received, I wouldn't even be mad about it. It would be a good thing.
This. The combat is a much needed update to make the game not boring. The original's gameplay wasn't that great. People just remember the creepy moments and story. hours of wandering through fog is boring. original combat is boring once you figure out how to dodge enemies and just run. bosses were a joke because of all the ammo you hoarded.
Holy fricking shills
don't act like you wouldn't shill for your company's game if it meant a bigger paycheck.
I wouldn't work at a shithole D-list company like Bloober in the first place.
Proof it's on the D list?
Smells like the Alan Wake 2 or Dead Space remake shilling all over again.
The Japanese are very spiteful and prideful, I won’t be surprised if they can the game because of these comments. Second time this polish homosexual has said something like this.
don't care. trailer was kino.
original combat wasn't any different
Original combat didn’t even have OTS garbage so what are you on about?
Ah yes I remember having to do a qte to escape from a lying figure who was about to vomit on me. Remember that? Remember the vomiting enemies with QTE in Silent Hill 2?
you unironically had to mash buttons to break grabs, only you didn't see the prompt come up on screen. so yes, it had qtes.
original gameplay is very dated. Instead of imagining James actually fighting for his life we actually get to see him fight realistically.
the original's combat was way worse. some morons still defend it by saying it intentionally had bad combat for some reason.
t. Bloobie
RULES OF NATURE
yes, people don't remember how silly the old combat looked. new combat doesn't seem very polished, but it's way better than the original. I have no regrets pre-ordering the SH2 remake. even if doesn't turn out great there's always patch updates to make the game better.
yes, people don't remember how silly the old combat looked. new combat doesn't seem very polished, but it's way better than the original. I have no regrets pre-ordering the SH2 remake. even if doesn't turn out great there's always patch updates to make the game better.
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Woah you can break AI of a boss, what does this prove exactly? The combat was simplistic but also fine for what the game was trying to be.
What I don't get is why doesn't James just get out of the way? it's not like lying figures have arms to grapple James with.
I don't really think the SH2R trailer was really that bad, it looked fine to me. The only gripe I had about it was the audio for the guns didn't sound right at all, and that alone is very easy to fix. People just have a high bar of expectation because its their favorite game and thats also fine.
>It's okay when Resident Evil 4 does it
Go frick yourself, this has been in gaming before your time. Literally most horror titles since 2008 have had shit like this and there hasn't been any sign of that shit stopping anytime soon, so you're just complaining for nothing.
The fact that you think 2008 is before his time tells me that you’re a tasteless zoomer and your opinion on anything should not be taken into consideration.
That fact they believe using a QTE in 2024 is considered a "demake" in modern standards tell me they're too young to be on this board, and probably (You) as well.
>It's okay when Resident Evil 4 does it
Oh look, the Ganker's RuSSkeks are here.
>this has been in gaming before your time.
look kid, "my time" started in 1985. Long before your sorry Bloopooper arse was even walking on this Earth.
This shit is not SH.
And since it's not RE either, it's not justified.
> Literally most horror titles since 2008 have had shit like this
Yes, and there's a reason why the genre... no, the whole fricking INDUSTRY went to shit right around that time.
Amnesia, Dead Space, TEW, all the nu-REs starting with 7 and the demakes... all pure, utter trash, that we, the OG fans of both OG franchises, absolutely loathed back in 2005-2012. And will keep loathing and hopefully gatekeeping the frick out the best we can.
This is not "nothing". This is a spreading CANCER that Wii-generation babbys like (You) have normalized. You've embraced sub-mediocrity as the golden standard, dragging everyone else down.
So let me make this awfully clear:
QTEs do not belong in the Silent Hill games.
Over-shoulder shooting shit does not belong in SH games.
That OVER ACTING and plasticy visuals are pathetic even by mid-00s' standards.
And literally no SH fan wanted this shitty demake.
If god allows it, RE too will crash and burn soon and at least return to its roots.
This looks like an actual parody of modern video game remakes.
Literally burst out laughing whenever I see this part. What the frick is he doing?
talking about " muh immersion"
press X not to die quick! XXXXXXXXXXXX
About immersion..,
The CoD red jam is more offensive to me than the QTE, jfc.
So green jam AND a QTE
This doesn't make any sense.
The monster has no arms it can't struggle with him like this unl it fell on him or something
trailer was *kuso
Trying to make a remake of what is widely considered to be one of the most significant artistic accomplishments of the medium is a thankless task to begin with and Bloober doesn't have anywhere near the pedigree of doing it. At that point it just becomes a matter trying not to break anything. I guess you can polish up the graphics somewhat (while being very mindful of keeping the art design intact) and making the controls and combat mechanics a bit more fluid (but, for gods sake, not trying to turn it into an action game) and keeping the rest exactly the same.
Which, for what it's worth, they've already screwed up by changing the voice acting. The original game struck gold with its nonprofessional actors and insecure deliveries that they've already failed to live up to once when they made the remaster. Outside of that, add anything and you run the risk of fricking it all up. Subtract anything and you run the risk of fricking it all up.
Something like the Final Fantasy Remake series can (debatably) justify being simultaneously a remake, reimagining, and commentary on the original because it's most of the same creative team revisiting their past work. A bunch of indie hacks who were probably for the most part still shitting their diapers when the original SH 2 came out aren't in a position to try to reinvent the wheel with it.
It’s like Konami said to themselves how can we make the worst possible remake for 2 and gave it to fricking BLOOBER
There's nothing Konami could do to satisfy the elderly, nostalgic ones.
Correct, nothing needs to be done with any of the Silent Hill games. Team Silent's last game was 4 and anything after it is fan fiction. The series is dead and should stay dead indefinitely. They should make a new horror IP that's SH inspired at most. We don't need remakes or new entries to the Silent Hill series, it's pointless.
I wouldn’t mind a remake of 4 if done correctly since that was the only title that had a bunch of cut stuff
I would agree with you if the original Team Silent could make it. I want a remake of Xenogears with all of the cut content but I know it's not possible without the original team. I don't want anyone touching that shit. Guaranteed shit show.
At this point they need to make it offensively bad, "WHERE THE FRICK IS MARY!?" tier garbage for people to remember it, otherwise it'll just end up forgotten after two weeks.
I think it could become so bad it's good in that case and I'd likely enjoy playing it too. I enjoy DmC obviously for it's decent combat and great world design and aesthetics but I even derived enjoyment from it's awful interpretation of Dante and Vergil and the wacky adventure they went on to take down the man. The dialog was gold and kept me and Ganker entertained for many months. I'm just glad 5 came out eventually and erased that as the new face of the franchise.
Eileen shaving
Are you in my walls? You're everywhere.
>have a mindblowing revelation that when you're making a videogame, you need to have gameplay in it
>after years of the market and releasing several "videogames", and while working on a "remake" of one of the most praised videogames ever made
>make a trailer showing all the super cool gameplay you made for the game
>it sucks and you get bashed
>"g-guys we knew it was shit from the start but come one guys, it was not us, it was Konami... yeah..."
Even if it's true and Konami made the trailer, it's an objective fact that what was shown to us was fricking garbage and shows the poles thought Silent Hill 2 needs shit like "press x to not die". This was not shit made up for the trailer, but what the game is actually supposed to look like and what was proudly shown to us.
Do zoomers really complain about wooden gameplay for a survival game like Silent Hill 2?
If it's a remake, why did they not make the gameplay good?
James being a useless wimpy pos adds to the feeling of hopelesness. Silent Hill isn't about power fantasies.
Just port the game upressed why is it so hard?
>t-the source code
It would still be less effort than a remake if you got a competent dev like Bluepoint.
>Bluepoint
>Competent dev
did you see how they butchered the MGS collection and Ico/SOTC? Not to mention they raped SOTC corpse twice
Those where still playable and the only down sides where cut extra content like skateboarding and that dream mini game/ cancelled project that they where probably the ordered by Konami to remove.
>make re2make with a silent hill 2 skin
>surprised it feels like re2make instead of silent hill 2
I don't know where to even begin with this shit.
This shits going to be a disaster. Not a single person involved has said that they’re actually proud of it and keep distancing themselves
>Pointless remake is pointless
wow really
>game looks so bad that even the PRESIDENT of the company is shitting on it
He’s obviously already blaming Konami for his own team’s incompetence. It’s going to be a train wreck.
Apologize
No.
The biggest problem is the art direction. It looks like any other generic, indie horror game released in the past decade. Seriously, Konami should just pay the Enhanced Edition team and sell that version officially.
Simbolism aside i think sh2 has the worse monster variety from the original 4
Are polish people usually this passive aggressive?
Yes. That is the way of the butthurt-belters.
>criticized mainly for its unattractive visuals and the general feeling of stiffness and "wooden"
no, it was because it had button mashing, overly actiony combat for a silent hill game like everyone said it would
>ooohhh we'll fix it we'll tighten up the grafics on level 3
yeah thats definitely what needed to be fixed
any actual source besides someone's "translation"? this could be all made up as far we know. the game trailer looked great. my main criticism is the lack of satisfying sound when fighting.
m8 this is the internet. Copy and paste the text into a translator and see for yourself.
>the game trailer looked great.
No it didn’t what the frick? Where do you people come from?
Reddit
>not even bloober likes their shitty remake
I see nothing wrong with the combat. People actually like the original gameplay of swinging at nothing until enemy gets close enough? combat has always been a bit clunky and had finishers. I don't see why people think the QTE finishers are bad. In hard/extreme difficulty you had to stomp every enemy or else they get back up.
Good news then since this piece of shit was made for morons just like you!
Even your boss is saying it looks like shit. You can stop shilling now.
What exactly is so bad with the combat?
Original had a targeting system, you were encouraged to stun enemies so you can stomp on them. My only gripe is how quick James is with a gun. He looks way too professional when reloading.
Original being bad is not an excuse, now you made a remake Just to have bad combat again?
I was going to suggest they give an in-game explanation for why James is so good with various guns then I remembered in the game there's a gun safety manual .
the game isn't a reflection of the final product. of course the sound design will be a lot better upon release.
I can’t recall a developer ever throwing their IP holder/Publisher under the bus like this while a game was in development. How bad is this going to be?
trailer didn't impress me but I am still going to buy the SH2 remake to show interest in the Silent Hill series. Konami needs to give the series way more support.
It's a grift, any subsequent remakes will be inferior quality, like 3make with Capcom.
I'm betting it would be a decent game. the series "fans" are just blowing things out of proportion.
trailer didn't impress me but I am still going to buy the SH2 remake to show interest in the Silent Hill series. Konami needs to give the series way more support.
The Silent Hill 2 Remake looks incredible. I’m not listening to the haters. The last trailer definitely solidified my preorder choice.
Silent Hill short message isn't that bad. pretty decent for a free game.
Trying to remake SH2 is pure hubris in of itself, there is absolutely no way to do it without pissing everybody off.
Would have been better to just rerelease the original for modern platforms without all the frick ups from the old HD remaster.
This.
On one hand you got the pseudo intellectuals that say SH2 is some kind of deconstruction on gaming principles and it's above gaming with a story rivaling books.
On the other you got the people that enjoy it for the tension and survival aspect.
You can't remake this, it's like remaking MGS2 you're just asking to be lynched.
>This trailer certainly does not reflect the spirit of the game .
the original game, or the remake that's currently in the works? if the former true, if the latter it sounds like meek damage control.
It’s the latter
dayum. well, i'll wait for some yewtubers to post some footage before i decide to play it myself. the trailer was admittedly garbage because idgaf about the combat, it's the creepy atmosphere which is what SH2 is remembered for. i'm worried the "over the shoulder" perspective used is what could frick it up for me. fixed camera was just waaay scarier than this could ever be, hearing the noise of enemies yet having no clue where the motherfricker is hiding. jumpscares don't compare to enemies hiding just outside fixed camera angles.
>A twenty year old game's bad combat excuses a a remake's bad combat.
You people are actually psychotic.
Bloober didn't make the trailer. They were annoyed by the muffled audio mixing for example. Made the guns sound weird.
Of course they're shifting blame. No shit.
The audio is the least of their concerns. Everything shown looks like shit. If I made shit and my publisher cut up a trailer of shit but missed a corn kernel in it why would I get mad at the publisher?
They're also mildly annoted at Konami using early 2023 footage in a 2024 trailer, but that's another issue.
>t-they didn’t make the t-trailer
DAMAGE CONTROL
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>Switching over to what's internally known as Bloober Team 3.0, however, the studio will begin making horror games that are more action focused and require more from the player, perhaps closer to something like Resident Evil.
>"We decided that our next titles should be much more mass-market oriented. We’d like to talk with more people. We’d like to deliver our ideas, with our DNA, not by environment or storytelling, but by action. So all of our future titles will have a lot of gameplay mechanics. They will be much bigger."
>The first of these games will be the Silent Hill 2 remake
>capcom decides to change resident evil into some evil cartoon movie with first person view gameplay
>bloober team immediately rushes to fill the void in the market for creepy monster action games
sigh.
Who the frick made the trailer to begin with
me
" Well, I guess if I have to talk about bread, might as well get it over with."
Baguette:
>It's like walking through the foggy streets of Silent Hill. Long, ominous, and always leaves you questioning your choices. Not bad.
Sourdough:
> This one's a bit like encountering a twisted monster. The sourness hits you unexpectedly, but it grows on you. A strange comfort in the chaos.
Whole Wheat:
> Reminds me of the rusty, desolate Otherworld. A bit too heavy, and it feels like you're carrying the weight of your sins.
Ciabatta:
>This bread has layers, much like the layers of reality in Silent Hill. Soft inside, but the crust can be unforgiving. A paradox.
Brioche:
> Sweet, like the memories of a life before the nightmares. A fleeting taste of normalcy in a world gone wrong.
Rye Bread:
>Dark and mysterious, like the secrets lurking in the town. It's an acquired taste, much like embracing the darkness within.
Multigrain:
> It's as if the bread is trying to be everything at once. A reflection of the fractured realities in Silent Hill. Confusing, but oddly satisfying.
Flatbread:
> Simple and straightforward. It's like a moment of respite in the midst of all the horror. Sometimes, simplicity is a relief.
Cinnamon Swirl:
> Sweet and twisted, like the hallucinations that plague my mind. It's a guilty pleasure, a momentary escape from the nightmares.
Pumpernickel:
> Dense and intense. Much like facing the nightmares head-on. Not for the faint of heart, but it has its own dark allure.
Well, that's enough talk about bread. I've got bigger nightmares to deal with.
I'm very sorry to hear about your terminal unfunny disease
Does anyone have that screenshot with how best to emulate the games etc. Pls.
The problem with the combat (other than the QTE's) is the camera. Over the shoulder fundamentally changes the impression, even if it handles much the same (tank controls aside).