>simple, satisfying gameplay
>no bloat, no feature creep, no trend-chasing
>no esports, no online tryhard homosexuals
>no pozzed characters or themes, mostly shit like blowing up aliens, dinosaurs and heavy metal rock
>still very few women in the community
Pinball is like vidya if it was still good
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>homosexuals
>minorities
>women
The seethe trinity. Pinball truly must not be very interesting at all if you dedicate most of this post to idpol b***hing. That or you're so obsessed with idpol that you as a person have thus become less insightful and articulate as a consequence.
mostly whenever I try to have a pinball thread people just post the BK2K song and then the thread dies so I thought I'd try a different angle
not working great so far
Try putting in more effort rather than less effort. Post webms and download links to pinball vidya. Shitty /misc/ bait is just bad karma.
It's partly bait but mostly genuine. I really do appreciate most of the themes are fun stuff made to appeal to dudes, like giant monsters, gangsters, fast cars, heavy metal and shit like that. It's still true to its main audience and about dumb fun, as opposed to vidya which has turned away from that since the past decade or so. Feel me?
you're an actual moron, everyone loves pinball
tell me how many females you know who own a pinball machine.
Twenty. What a low IQ anecdotal post. How many women do you know? How many people who collect expensive vintage crap do you know? etc
What do you want, an official survey? If one exists I'd be interested but I don't think it does. I'd predict it's like 9999 to 1 ratio. I know probably over 10 guys in my area who own a game, and if they have wives/gfs they think its boring. My point stands, themes are mostly guy shit because they know that's who buys games.
I don't know any males who own one, what's your point?
my point is a lot of vidya is made by and for women now, and pinball doesn't seem to have that problem
When are we getting a Last of Us pinball machine that lets you watch HBO gay sex when you score enough points
Pinball died before homosexuals and women started getting affirmative action.
I wish culture war schizos got the medical attention they need
he can't feel anything he is not told to have a performative reaction to
but yes, the sentiment is understood
>t. talks a lot, knows absolutely nothing
Ok, so you're gay. Congrats. Now frick off.
I wish I could own a table. The Judge Dredd and Godzilla one at my local barcade are really nice.
Dredd is cool, one thing I don't like is it's from that era when pay-to-win was a thing. Putting in more money to get to keep playing is uber gay.
Godzilla is honestly the best modern Stern pin IMO. I can't stop playing it at my local arcade even though the owner has it in the pay-to-play section. I probably will have to get pried off of it once he moves it to the main floor.
THIS THREAD HAS BEEN INVADED BY THE BLACK KNIGHT
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there it is, pack it in everyone
So pissed that the Vegas ruond1 hasn't fixed its table's shield arm yet. It doesn't raise up high enough anymore for the ball to go in
>Vegas round 1
WTF are you doing Black person
Pinball Hall of Fame Museum
Granted I haven't been back to Vegas since it moved onto the strip so maybe maintenance has gone down and it is more crowded.
When I was younger neighbors across the street purchased 2 machines I think from TNT amusements with their kid (friends) (went there a long time ago 30 years?)
Atlantis and this weird upright cabinet. Looked it up a few years ago after searching, it was Varkon.
One of the most common and one of the rarest arcade cabinets. I wonder what happened to that Varkon.
Haven't seen one of those again, didn't even see it at the museum.
I kind of remember it not being very good as a kid, and Atlantis always had issues including the ball getting stuck.
Went to play it at the museum and sure enough the ball got stuck.
>TNT amusements
Based, their youtube channel is terrible but very comfy, hope to make it out there someday as I'm like 2 hours from Philly
>Based, their youtube channel is terrible
The true kino was he had insanely long adds / infomercial stuff that probably ran for 10 years on some channel.
>They also had Orbitor 1 and Joust pins at that place. Orbitor 1 is funky
When I honestly first played it I could not figure out what was going on, if it was a series of magnets or what as the lighting in the area was just perfect. Enough to see everything but absolutely disguised the plexiglass
Oh man, I got to play on a Varkon at a pinball Expo in the Chicago area several years ago. Shit's weird with the joysticks controlling the flippers.
They also had Orbitor 1 and Joust pins at that place. Orbitor 1 is funky with that custom-molded playfield, but Joust was a blast.
How is this table??
Its one of my grails.
>tfw can barely afford a NiB stern pro but have marketwatch for this bk.
Personally I consider this table, Medieval madness, and the House of Magic to be the holy trinity of dream tables.
Theater of Magic*
>pinball thread
fricking based
Anyone ever play Baby Pac-Man? I remember seeing it once as a kid and wanting to play it because it was both pinball AND a video game but it's really not that special in either regard. I've always been curious if more hybrid games like these existed.
Otherwise, just seconding classics like or
Never got to play baby pac but I did get to play that awful mario bros cab, the video mode where you jump over gaps as mario lmao. https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/super-mario-bros
I recently had the privilege of playing Granny and the Gators at Past Times in OH. They have one right next to a Baby Pac. It is, similarly, very mediocre in both regards.
Woah! Never seen this pin!
Reminds me of the other arcade cab pin, "The Pinball Circus" https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/pinball-circus/gallery
Just adding the Sword of Rage Soundtrack
And that cover of BK2K that plays when you start a KNIGHT mode
I wish someone would upload a rip of the Foo Fighters soundtrack, I like the chiptune versions they did https://youtu.be/xbtaTtbbJfo?si=ibeJ7l_VyRCdiJqm&t=439
Problem with pinball is most people don't know you are actually playing objectives and trying to make calculated shots, most people see it as hit the funny lights and watch number go up
Stern does sometimes put little tutorials on the display now but I feel they could do more. Like, play something like this with audio and everything every once in a while during attract mode.
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Might be annoying but there'd be an option to turn it off.
I have a rules flowchart set up next to my Hobbit pin, and I always make sure to explain what the intricacies really are. It floors me to see that people still think pinball isn't any more advanced than it was 50 years ago.
Hobbit became so much more fun when I learned about how the modes feed into each other, and how the star ranks affect the mini-wizards. Went from meh to one of my favorites.
Don't forget when they added the option to disable Beast Frenzy and Smaug Multiball overlap.
I do remember those overlapping more often than not, but how do you suppose that improves the game? Just makes the progression less jumbled?
It honestly makes things way less chaotic, and especially in the 3rd and final phases of Smaug Multiball it becomes a royal pain trying to land the necessary shots with pop-ups constantly flying up and blocking them.
Rules are just too in-depth to learn on the fly for most people. There's a reason most games just last a couple minutes, people in general aren't really that good at pinball. Trying to wedge in rules and gamemodes and extra features is nice, but there's just no way that some casual player will ever actually learn them. At best, they can learn that hitting something onto a certain spot makes a thing happen, and they can be encouraged to keep trying to hit those spots in hops that something even blinkier and noisier happens, but that's really it.
>there's just no way that some casual player will ever actually learn them
I used to be casual before I learned, everyone starts somewhere
It's difficult for me to cut casuals any slack when they:
>can't even find the start button
>mash it, starting a 4-player game
>walk away after draining one ball
They don't even notice that there's even a fricking screen on the thing.
What was your first machines anons? Pic related was mine and as a result I’ve never really liked the Bally flipper feel.
First table I ever played was Stern's Elvis table at a Chuck e' Cheese.
>be me, 10 years old
>fricking LOVE pinball, but hardly get to play it. had only ever played and something like
Pinball is fascinating. Took apart one of these bad boys as a kid to see how it worked, and always wanted to build one myself afterwards.
>dad takes me to some kind of arcade auction one day
>entire back of the place is lined with dozens with tables all on freeplay
>mfw
Pin-Bot and Hi-Speed on the NES aside, I want to say my first physical machine was this one
I honestly can't remember what the first pin I played was, but I knew I loved it at a very young age. When I got older, it took a major backseat to vidya, and I just forgot about it, until I played a Theatre of Magic in my college years. Shit got me hooked like no other, and I've been into it ever since.
My first machine was a Terminator 2 machine. God that big metal skull was cool. Whenever I see them in bars/arcades and such now the skull never works anymore. Real frickin sad.
Independence Day at a 9-screen indie theater.
It could have been Adam's Family, but aliums.
Don't remember my first but I played this one a ton, it was my second.
It was an old Centaur machine at a small dodgy arcade attached to a cinema. I liked that you could actually save the ball from the drains if you nudged it right.
>no tryhard homosexuals
Wrong
But otherwise your point stands.
>DUDE! Just spend thousands of dollars on this one giant machine and slap a ball around!
hard pass
Pinball FX3 for novelty tables, Zaccaria Pinball for more classic tables, all you need, even absolute pinball addicts only have like 1-3 physicals and just stick to videogames for the rest.
Whatever happened to the pinball arcade? Do people don't like that anymore?
>owner proceed to try to fix a pinball machine
>Have absolutely NO idea what the frick he is doing
>here's your pinball, bro!
>ball get stuck in some parts
>Playing Godzilla 98' on location last week.
>One of the light covers on the right ramp loose
>Hit that right ramp, cover falls off.
>Lodges itself in the drain
Consider yourself lucky
>play Iron Maiden
>ball get stuck there
>TILT! No refund!
>Ball is still stuck
Heard horror stories about this spot.
I've never had the ability to play Iron Maiden on location, theres a spot near me that only has 5 pins, all stern pros, IM being one of them. Caveat is the IM is fricking busted, plunger spring broken, have to manually plunge, and the right flipper is fricked, you have to hit the left flipper to release the right back to down position. My tab alone for food and beer was enough to cover a new from stern shooter nob, the motherfrickers just don't care.
I'm the anon shilling Vpin, I opened Pinball Arcade yesterday and it's just outdated. On top of the fact that you have to buy the pins they have listed (a ridiculously small selection) the UI and graphics are fricking horrendous. Controls are bork'd too. Really not worth it to waste your money. Download and play 4k recreations by people that actually care about the hobby.
So you suggest playing VPin these days? I was a big fan of pinball arcade and Williams collection in the day because getting all the achievement and actually learn the table gimmicks felt very satisfying
When I'm on the go I use an emulator handheld (retroid pocket 3+). But when I'm at home I use Vpin on my PC. The console and commercial iterations on PC don't hold a candle to VPin.
Just go to an arcade, dude
Pinball video games exist, moron. And they're cheap as hell. Also you can make your own pinball machine with no much money.
>no trend-chasing
the abundance of pinball machines and their various forms of tie ins were 100% trend chasing back in the day.
and licensed pinball remains the most popular form of pinball people come across anyway
10k for a table and then there is maintenance
I like them but yikes bro
Nah it's totally fine :^)
It looks like a hobby and a half.
Pinball is fascinating. Took apart one of these bad boys as a kid to see how it worked, and always wanted to build one myself afterwards.
Holy shit, I think I had one of these.
Super skill is a soft shot that rests your ball on the bumper while the score just climbs up.
lol i had one of these. i remember breaking it though because i wanted to use my own marble as the ball which of course, didnt work.
i dont think the theme of it was like how it is in the picture though. forgot what it was exactly but im pretty sure its one of those old electronic games that use the same base but have different artwork.
I'll be honest, working on the machines is kinda fun for me. It can be satisfying in a tinkering sort of way. Except when something fails that you can't get anywhere except Stern and they're back-ordered to shit.
Yeah if you enjoy it it must be awesome you probably need an engineer brain.
NTA but not really. Pinball boards are basically super blown up huge circuit boards. A lot of shit on the backside is just plug and play.
Pic made me pop chub. I love working on and maintaining things.
I was at Gencon recently (I know), and they had the whole JJP lineup. I don't have any JJP's by me, so it was nice to try some out. I am kicking myself for not trying all of them now (Specifically POC and Hobbit), but I tried WOZ, Wonka, GNR, TS4 and GF. WOZ was amazing and Wonka had very nice flow despite the lack of toys. But GNR, TS4, and GF all sucked. It was like watching a downfall of a company.
GnR and TS4 are weak but I thought GF was a big step up, despite the unbalanced scoring. Pretty fun layout and rules compared to the previous two. Definitely not as strong as their earlier games though.
I used to go to pinball league tournaments every once in a while. the people were very chill and it was a lot of fun.
Pinball is based and always makes me crave pizza.
>game has a pinball level
>he didn't play kino pinball shovelware growing up
I play pinball physically more than I play vidya these days and when I do it's... you guessed it.
vPin.
I met my wife playing Tales of the Arabian Nights at an arcade in 2003. Now we own a table but only play it every few weeks. Our kids love it too.
I missed physical Pinball machines so much. I live in Asia and I can't find them anymore.
For me its Creature from the black lagoon.
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I don't like pinball scoring.
I really don't like big numbers that don't mean anything.
Yes, there is something wrong with me.
I understand what you're saying. So long as the game has an established meta to the scoring I think it's fine regardless if you score 10 points for a bumper or 10,000,000. There is definitely a sweet spot though.
NTA but IMO it's better when the scoring seems relatively consistent across multiple pins from a given manufacturer, like how most Stern pins or most JJP pins have relatively similar score scaling. It gets obnoxious when you have shit like Williams jumping between tens of millions in Medieval Madness and literal billions in Attack From Mars.
I like big numbers that mean something. I don't like big numbers that don't mean anything, like the billion shot on Bride of Pinbot. Was playing Gilligan's Island recently, which has a 50,000,000 shot that just invalidates everything else. Real dumb.
Doesn't BoP have a separate scoreboard specifically for people who landed the billion point shot?
yeah it does, still bugs me on principal though
I'll tell you what's fricking bullshit: the catch-up bonus on Gottlieb tables. I got eliminated from a tournament once because the player in last got a catch-up bonus for my score on his last ball.
Nobody really bothers with pinball scoring, that's like keeping track how long you can juggle - indefinitely, until you get bored.
It's the quests, objectives, board states and general per-table quirks that are fun to see.
Jersey Jack makes new tables where a million points is a really good score. They do more "old-school" scoring, where hitting a ramp just gives you 250 points, not 250,000.
Anons, if you're even relatively interested in pinball and have no locals near you
(https://pinside.com/pinball/map/mapbox#4/39.5/-98.35/0/26)
I urge you to checkout VPX/Vpin. Only downside is having to make a Vpinforums account and talk to old boomers
(https://www.vpforums.org/)
I literally just get back from my local pinball bar and see a pin thread. Life is good tonight boys.
I love elvira
Im ranked in the top 500 in IFPA, Pinball is incredible tbh. If you actually enjoy vidya games not a moron Ganker sense you should try and see the beauty of the game. Its incredibly addicting and satisfying to get better at
>saves pinball and ushers in a new golden age of machines
>also the best player ever to play
Is there anyone more based????
>grunts, swears and sweats profusely in your path
I dunno who feels the same way but I think nudging is fricking stupid lol
seeing someone slap around a machine is dumb
some people get crazy butthurt when people have that opinion over their HOT TECH tho
I mean on what grounds Anon, if you're gonna lose your ball and you can tilt/nudge to stay in play, that's just another level of skill. Its a machine designed in some small way to eat quarters, taking hold and preventing that is sticking it to the operator.
Literally played cactus canyon remake tonight anon, don't say that lol. 1m skillshots and 500k single shots.
Catcus Canyon isn't a JJP pin.
Frick you're right, it's a CGC. I conceed.
Haven't played Godfather yet, have you?
NTA but Godfather does have very inflated scoring as compared to other JJPs. You can get 1B pretty feasably if you know what you're doing. It's also very unbalanced though with multipliers that stack, which is also very unlike most JJP.
I like the idea of stacking multipliers but of course without playing I'm not able to pass judgement. Also I should probably watch the movies prior to playing.
It can be very satisfying going for a big 100x shot (you can get 10x playfield + 5x shot multiplier + ~2x mode cashout) but on the other hand it makes it kinda stupid going for any other strategy if your aim is a big score. I watched the first movie after playing the game, it was pretty good.
I'm less of a score player and more a mode player. My focus is always on getting to a wizard mode. Glad it has regard though, will look for it on location. I'm located in a bit of a drought, my local league spot has a cactus canyon remake and a godzilla pro, couple mech games and a ghostbusters. Thats about it.
sounds like you're just mad you can't do it
prove me wrong and beat my scores without nudging and I'll take it back
My only real response to that is the games are built to be nudged. The tilt bob exists to penalize reckless abuse of the table but would accept basic nudging techniques like outlane saves or slap saves.
Exactly, hell some games even give out extra dangers as bonus rewards. It's a feature of the game.
there are video games that are exactly like this like tetris or quake live. pure gameplay and no bs
Frick off anon this is a certified PINHEAD thread.
Anyone ITT excited for the CGC's Pulp Fiction?
Saw the teaser they did for it, looks pretty fricking awesome outside of the pricing.
Looks sick!
Really stoked for it, hoping I ever get a shot at playing it on location. I like the blend of new and old design decisions they made.
This image made me realize how much I'm actually missing out playing the pro model at my local.
Anons, is there a point where i'm dialed in and stop being a shitter or is there a constant flow of shitter games and good ones. On a good game I can catch a replay score but typically I just drain out at a middling score that even first timers can get.
Even the best players have bad games, consistency is one of the hardest things to develop in pinball but you will get more consistent as you practice more. It's a very mental thing, and part of what makes pinball fun with such a high skill ceiling. I'm mostly only ever consistent on games I'm very familiar with when I'm already warmed up.
Puts me at ease a bit. hoping to win the next pinball project raffle and finally get a NiB at my place. Hopefully get good on that bawd and then throw up a good score at my local. I've orbitted a league for the past two months as they're in the middle of the season, but plan on getting into the next one.
Anyone else gaming on Xenotilt?
Haven't ripped Xeno yet, played a ton of Demon's tilt though, is it better than Demon's?
About the same for me.
AIIIIEEE
hersheypark?
holy shit I thought I was the only one who played this
yep
where are the links to free tables
Vpinforums dude.
this seems fricking insane dude, where do I even start? these are all community designed tables?
whats good
The community remakes real tables as well as some essentially "homebrew" tables.
Worst part is making an account, after that it's simple.
Follow the dropdown for startup guide for setup and then visit the tables dropdown and download ones that look interesting (unless you're not new to pinball, then just lookup tables you know you want) the important part is you will download a table as a .vpx file, and then you will need a rom. In my opinion the easiest way is to try and run the table, it'll tell you in an error message which rom is required, you google that exact filename and it'll come up as a Vpinforums download (or alternate). You drop that in the correct folder and you're off to the races.
If you scroll up in the thread I'm the anon that posted a desktop img of Vpin tables, if you want recs, start with those.
thanks man, i just signed up and I'm going to start with Arabian Nights since I'm familiar so I can kinda see how the physics feel
I am really hopeful and to be free of PinballFX
Totally man! I hope it's good for you.
actually one more question,
should I be setting up Visual Pin or Future Pin if I just want to play on my desktop? Is future pin more supported these days or anything?
nah future pin is kinda outdated (ironically)
>VPX is not compatible with VP9 which is not compatible with VP8
GNNNHHH
That part can be a pain but generally with my library of 30 or so tables I've never ran into anything breaking, even with tables that throw warnings for being out of date.
I play primarily on my desktop and I use Visual Pin. It's been a long time since I've used FuturePin and if I remember correctly it just adds a frontend. I tried running it to verify but it's just a dead shortcut on my machine hah.
>That part can be a pain but generally with my library of 30 or so tables I've never ran into anything breaking, even with tables that throw warnings for being out of date.
>Scripts N°7825 doesn't work anymore!
>oops!
I'm showing my hand right now, I have not encountered that. If you have encountered incompatibility issues though could you explain them a bit more for users that may run into them in the future?
>"no bloat, no feature creep, no trend-chasing"
>overdesigned jackpot gimmicks
>tables being made following success out of tv series and movies at the time
shit is the same with another coat of paint
I hate to shit on OP because I've been dying for a pin thread but the writing is on the wall.
Stern's Venom literally has a feature that allows you to gain XP and save it between games using insider connect. Also, games are now getting topper only modes, which is literally 2000 dollar DLC modes.
>no esports
>No tryhards
Should we tell him?
>pinball
>esport
Are you moronic?
Pinball is the pinnacle of gaming.
Anyone ever buy a custom digital pball?
Not worth it, even if you aren't a dumbass and buy just the parts to make the table and download them yourself you're still missing out. Virtual table is like 2K? New in box Stern pro is 7k (8k after tax and shipping). Save for another 4 months and buy a physical table.
Used to love pinball at the bowling alley and the chinese restaurant my ex's family owned. Shame they both closed down. I would stop in once in a while to chat with the people I knew there and usually played a round. Would bring a pocket full of change if I was getting food at the chinese place. I bought their Nascar pinball machine when they closed the place down during covid but it's in storage right now.
Man remember when windows came with cool games..
i had that pack with the 4 extra tables, the police one was the one i was best at
https://alula.github.io/SpaceCadetPinball/
have fun anon but turn down your speakers before you open the page
Pinball is a solved genre.
Had me dying as soon as I opened the webm. I had a date that did that actually during multiball, I couldn't even be mad, she had luck on her side.
Which game is this? This thread has reignited a desire in me
Pro Pinball Ultra Timeshock
https://store.steampowered.com/app/287900/Pro_Pinball_Ultra/
Why yes, this is how I play pinball. How could you tell?
Been getting into pinball myself with a budget cab.
Thankfully digital pinball is so cheap these days.
Thousands of tabled on one cab is glorious.
ZASED
where would I go about swiping something like this
Not sure. Depends on where you live.
Thank you kindly.
Dude, not even close to real pinball. It's not even fricking with a condom, it's holding a dildo to frick your girlfriend with.
Don't care. I enjoy it and that is all that matters.
Thousands of tables in one small unit is great.
I'm glad you enjoy it. Do you play real pinball too? I find that Vpin and emu pin tables frick me up because there is no feedback.
The cab has some force feedback but nothing like a real table.
Still you can modify the cab and add in feedback that is a lot more true to real tables but it can get expensive.
I have played real pinball and nothing can compare to it but if you have the money you can make a custom digital cabinet that is pretty close. Upgrading to a large 4k 120hz screen helps a lot.
I'm conflicted, I want to save for a NiB godzilla or a Halloween CE from Spooky, but a Vpin kit is 2k cheaper. I've played both, I play on location every weekend, and I've played a Vpin table at an arcade I worked at in college. I just don't know if I can justify 2k savings for emulation. I see it as this, I already play VPin on my PC a lot, I pay 4k for a VPin cab kit or 6k for a NiB Stern pro.
I need to know what series sold half a mil in the banner top right.
3d ultra pinball, Lost Continent is an entry in the series.
Shoulda known.
>Be me last week
Pinball spot is popular because it has a rooftop bar, it rakes in the normies
>10/10 normie pulls up on Stranger Things machine next to me.
>puts a dollar in.
>Hits start, plunges ball with center "A c t i o n" button
>watches ball drain
>Frustrated noises
>Plunges ball two
>Is about to watch it drain. I lean over and press flipper button on her machine
>"It's on the sides"
>"OHHHHH THAAANK YOU!!!"
Anons, she couldn't even realize the flipper buttons were on the side of the fricking cab...
>Rail shooter cabinet
>dude press start
>use his 6 bullets
>have no idea AT ALL how to reload
>CONTINUE?
many such cases!
>asking $3k leafbucks
>been on the market since April so I can maybe haggle
I'm really tempted. Once the stuff my brother is storing in my guest bedroom is gone I could set it up in there.