>simplistic gameplay >bad >middling lore
kek lmao
a single side quest in skyrim can have a 10 page backstory, all introduced in skyrim and not present in the previous games.
>way more guilds/factions >way more weapon types >pauldrons and greaves >can wear armour over normal clothes and then a robe over the armour >endurance actually matters >enemy inflicted status effects actually matter >more schools of magic and more types of spells in general, you can fly and jump from one end of the map to another >argonians and khajit's are actually unique and can't wear armour in the same way as a human >story has way more moving parts >actual prostitutehouse you can visit with strippers
>way more factions
ok and the faction quests all involve shitty fetch quests or "go kill this guy" or "go collect the debt money" >way more weapon types
thats true but in a game where combat is that miserable it really doesnt matter >pauldrons and greaves
why is that good? so you can spend 3x on a chestplate set? who the hell is going to wear different types of pauldrons? it's arbitrary. is this really what morrowgays use to say their game is good? >can wear armor over normal clothes and then a robe over the armor
true >endurance actually matters
yeah way too much. it makes or beaks the entire game, from movement to combat. this is a horrible feature and ive never seen someone defend it before you >enemy inflicted status effects actually matter
the times you actually find yourself effected by enemy status is so infrequent in morrowind that when you actually do get effected, all the potions you bought/made just in case have spoiled, so youre fricked. >argonians and khajiits are actually unique
yeah theyre nerfed, that sucks >story has way more moving parts
yeah and its like 2 hours long >actual prostitutehouse you can visit with strippers
so you can ask them their background and rumors and proceed to hear nothing in response.
>ok and the faction quests all involve shitty fetch quests or "go kill this guy" or "go collect the debt money"
and skyrims all involve going to caves and killing draugr. >thats true but in a game where combat is that miserable it really doesnt matter
Skyrim's is also shit. >who the hell is going to wear different types of pauldrons?
people who want to customise their character? Are you unironically saying less choice is good? >yeah and its like 2 hours long
don't know where you're getting this number from. >so you can ask them their background and rumors and proceed to hear nothing in response.
why would I talk to a stripper?
Does it have good gameplay though
>Does it have good gameplay though
does any elder scrolls? They're all mediocre. Skyrim is the poster boy for games that you install 100 mods for, play for 10 minutes and then drop.
Really want to get into Morrowind but the combat system and walk speed just kills it for me. Melee lacks feedback for hit / miss, I think it would change a lot despite seeming superficial on paper. I know acrobatics can be leveled but it's awful early.
>Skyrim >RPG
It's an action looter shooter game without the shooting part, it's like a theme park with barebone RPG elements. Morrowind and Oblivion had a lot more RP in the G than Skyrim does, Skyrim's choices excised a lot of the RP potential. The player dialogue is one of the worst aspects of the game.
Skyrim's strength are the map being environmentally cohesive, the player's path being unrestricted, and the exploration soundtrack being beautiful especially at night. In those regards it's nearly impossible to beat.
But Skyrim is a game that tries to do so many other things as well and completely fumbles in most other areas concerning gameplay and writing. The game's primitive presentation and barely existent writing are probably the biggest problem - you cannot express who your Dragonborn is or what they're like. All the characters are so hilariously one dimensional and forgettable that developing any emotional connection to the narrative is impossible, the rare moments of charm come from one of the 6 reused voice actors deciding to throw in some sarcasm every once in a while.
It's simply too big of a game to do everything well, it stretches itself into trying to do all things as if it's an octopus but it's only got two-three strong elements (environment cohesion, music, freedom) so all the other elements (movement, combat, loot system, magic, physics, character writing, plot writing, presentation, RP potential, graphics/engine, etc) end up being extremely lackluster.
>experiences
no >systems
absolutely not >locations
soft agree. With ENB, lighting mods, and numerous retextures, many vanilla locations look alright. Without that stuff though they look like dogshit >questlines
dearest god no >possibilities >do you want the guards in your cities to be red or blue?
Modded Skyrim will have disastrous consequences. When TES6 comes out in a few years (or a decade, more likely), people are going to expect it to be a sequel to modded Skyrim. It won't be. It'll be a buggy unrefined sequel to vanilla Skyrim, and doubtlessly worse than modded Skyrim. So the collective seethe when TES6 comes out will be gigantic, people will be reminded of how installing good mods made by independent modders does not actually make Bethesda better at making games.
If anything, it makes Bethesda worse because they get complacent because they know modders will fix their mistakes. Kind of like how a kid knows he can take a shit on the sidewalk because their parent will always be there to clean it up, so they don't even bother doing it in the toilet.
And they still haven't finished it.
The Bethesda model; rush out a copy-pasted mess, and let the paying customer fix it.
Also, what the frick is with these captchas? It's a dyslexic person's nightmare.
>Skyrim is 11 years old.
Yet, it is: >Still bugged >Still crashing >Still riddled with terrible quests >Still voiced by 5 different people >Still unplayable without mods >Still unplayable with mods >Still bugged with unofficial patches >Still crashing with unofficial patches >Still riddled with terrible community quests >Still terrible gameplay even with mods >Still terrible havok physics with mods
It only still exists because of Loverslab and because people insist on this garbage instead of playing some of the infinitely better h-games.
The non-existence of a new F-Zero game will be old enough to vote by Christmas.
And I’m still playing it chud
Do you have something against 11 year olds?
Ironic e-girlcon homosexuals frick off
Shut your homosexual ass up.
>Ironic e-girlcon
What does that mean?
People who use e-girlcon memes such as UOOOOOOH and pretend they like kids while not actually being a e-girlcon (or being one in denial)
hot
>wojacks
>phoneposter
>likes skyrim
>buzzwords everywhere
Why the roundabout way of proclaiming you are a subhuman moron?
Thank you for your input, 110 IQ individual
>simplistic gameplay
>bad
>middling lore
kek lmao
a single side quest in skyrim can have a 10 page backstory, all introduced in skyrim and not present in the previous games.
>skyrim is unmatched in size and possibilites
it's not even the biggest elder scrolls, morrowind is larger and has more depth in every aspect.
>has more depth
in what?
hard mode: no spellcrafting
>way more guilds/factions
>way more weapon types
>pauldrons and greaves
>can wear armour over normal clothes and then a robe over the armour
>endurance actually matters
>enemy inflicted status effects actually matter
>more schools of magic and more types of spells in general, you can fly and jump from one end of the map to another
>argonians and khajit's are actually unique and can't wear armour in the same way as a human
>story has way more moving parts
>actual prostitutehouse you can visit with strippers
>way more factions
ok and the faction quests all involve shitty fetch quests or "go kill this guy" or "go collect the debt money"
>way more weapon types
thats true but in a game where combat is that miserable it really doesnt matter
>pauldrons and greaves
why is that good? so you can spend 3x on a chestplate set? who the hell is going to wear different types of pauldrons? it's arbitrary. is this really what morrowgays use to say their game is good?
>can wear armor over normal clothes and then a robe over the armor
true
>endurance actually matters
yeah way too much. it makes or beaks the entire game, from movement to combat. this is a horrible feature and ive never seen someone defend it before you
>enemy inflicted status effects actually matter
the times you actually find yourself effected by enemy status is so infrequent in morrowind that when you actually do get effected, all the potions you bought/made just in case have spoiled, so youre fricked.
>argonians and khajiits are actually unique
yeah theyre nerfed, that sucks
>story has way more moving parts
yeah and its like 2 hours long
>actual prostitutehouse you can visit with strippers
so you can ask them their background and rumors and proceed to hear nothing in response.
>ok and the faction quests all involve shitty fetch quests or "go kill this guy" or "go collect the debt money"
and skyrims all involve going to caves and killing draugr.
>thats true but in a game where combat is that miserable it really doesnt matter
Skyrim's is also shit.
>who the hell is going to wear different types of pauldrons?
people who want to customise their character? Are you unironically saying less choice is good?
>yeah and its like 2 hours long
don't know where you're getting this number from.
>so you can ask them their background and rumors and proceed to hear nothing in response.
why would I talk to a stripper?
>Does it have good gameplay though
does any elder scrolls? They're all mediocre. Skyrim is the poster boy for games that you install 100 mods for, play for 10 minutes and then drop.
Really want to get into Morrowind but the combat system and walk speed just kills it for me. Melee lacks feedback for hit / miss, I think it would change a lot despite seeming superficial on paper. I know acrobatics can be leveled but it's awful early.
Yeah but Morrowind is boring as frick. The gameplay is complete shit and if I wanted a good story I would just read a book.
>morrowind is larger
Because it has more npcs that don't respawn? Lmoa
Does it have good gameplay though
My IQ was professionally tested at 135 and I disagree with the "intelligent" argument. Frick off.
>Skyrim
>RPG
It's an action looter shooter game without the shooting part, it's like a theme park with barebone RPG elements. Morrowind and Oblivion had a lot more RP in the G than Skyrim does, Skyrim's choices excised a lot of the RP potential. The player dialogue is one of the worst aspects of the game.
The high IQ aspect is overembellishing it.
Skyrim's strength are the map being environmentally cohesive, the player's path being unrestricted, and the exploration soundtrack being beautiful especially at night. In those regards it's nearly impossible to beat.
But Skyrim is a game that tries to do so many other things as well and completely fumbles in most other areas concerning gameplay and writing. The game's primitive presentation and barely existent writing are probably the biggest problem - you cannot express who your Dragonborn is or what they're like. All the characters are so hilariously one dimensional and forgettable that developing any emotional connection to the narrative is impossible, the rare moments of charm come from one of the 6 reused voice actors deciding to throw in some sarcasm every once in a while.
It's simply too big of a game to do everything well, it stretches itself into trying to do all things as if it's an octopus but it's only got two-three strong elements (environment cohesion, music, freedom) so all the other elements (movement, combat, loot system, magic, physics, character writing, plot writing, presentation, RP potential, graphics/engine, etc) end up being extremely lackluster.
Moot would've banned wojakposting if he were still here
>experiences
no
>systems
absolutely not
>locations
soft agree. With ENB, lighting mods, and numerous retextures, many vanilla locations look alright. Without that stuff though they look like dogshit
>questlines
dearest god no
>possibilities
>do you want the guards in your cities to be red or blue?
So is my girlfriend.
still the best game after 11 years.
Say what you want about the game but the trailer was genuinely hype as frick.
dood parts that suck in Skyrim are actually good im such high IQ person and TESV is totally not my first A"rpg" fr fr no cap
God bless mods
Modded Skyrim will have disastrous consequences. When TES6 comes out in a few years (or a decade, more likely), people are going to expect it to be a sequel to modded Skyrim. It won't be. It'll be a buggy unrefined sequel to vanilla Skyrim, and doubtlessly worse than modded Skyrim. So the collective seethe when TES6 comes out will be gigantic, people will be reminded of how installing good mods made by independent modders does not actually make Bethesda better at making games.
If anything, it makes Bethesda worse because they get complacent because they know modders will fix their mistakes. Kind of like how a kid knows he can take a shit on the sidewalk because their parent will always be there to clean it up, so they don't even bother doing it in the toilet.
And they still haven't finished it.
The Bethesda model; rush out a copy-pasted mess, and let the paying customer fix it.
Also, what the frick is with these captchas? It's a dyslexic person's nightmare.
>Skyrim is 11 years old.
Yet, it is:
>Still bugged
>Still crashing
>Still riddled with terrible quests
>Still voiced by 5 different people
>Still unplayable without mods
>Still unplayable with mods
>Still bugged with unofficial patches
>Still crashing with unofficial patches
>Still riddled with terrible community quests
>Still terrible gameplay even with mods
>Still terrible havok physics with mods
It only still exists because of Loverslab and because people insist on this garbage instead of playing some of the infinitely better h-games.