It wasn't that it was a PC release for me, but rather had bad it looked and ran on Switch itself, hampered further by a patch that lowered the resolution further to try and maintain 20fps. Game looks drastically better in Yuzu.
Why did they even call it "Soul Hackers 2" anyway? Such a forced "celebration" of a game that is already part of a larger series and isn't particularly well known anyway. They should have just made a new Devil Summoner.
hes the most wiggerest of wiggers out there, Its embarassing hearing him talk with his wigger phrases. Id rather watch 4 hours of persona 345 dick sucking than a minute of him
this is the dude that thinks smt iv is amazing because he got filtered by minotaur. you reupload music with shitty art you ripped off pixiv, nobody gives a frick about your opinions.
Persona and Devil Survivor died with him too. It's hard to be optimistic about the future of any Atlus project now outside of maybe Etrian Odyssey since the team has a good thing going with those games.
Afaik it was a new team altogether making V, also the person who directed was his first as well. So yeah they made a lot of rookie mistakes. SMTV kinda tried to incorporate mechanics from SJ, Nocturne and IV altogether, but they fricked up badly on the most basic stuff that made SMT different, like having level scaling mandatory instead of stats, and redoing the story many times that it just ended up being a mess just like the alignment system. At some point I even thought the game wanted to do a SMT Nine alignment system since the Bethel reunion pretty much fitted well for doing that, considering also that the game incorporated the "Light-Neutral-Dark" as well on the common Law-Neutral-Chaos alignment system, which was a thing on NINE, and SJ was a small detail for doing demon scout, Dark alignment demons weren't possible to scout at all except they asked you, surrendered or you fused them.
Are any of the old smt devs at atlus any more. It seems like the current team doesn't have the same passion for the occult and all the stuff that they used for inspiration for smt back in the 90's and 00's.
Weird game. It gave me a lot of things that I really wanted from 3. >Pixie companion who talks to you. >Brought back player-unique skills. >Direct sequel to SMT3 with references and showcasing what happened to the world after god is killed. >More laser sword abilities (I specifically begged for this for a while and I was happy I got cool laser abilities)
But then I wound up hating it. >Stuck on switch >Doubling down on shitty changes to combat, stats, abilities introduced in SMT4 >Magatsuhi-skill centric bosses. >literally had to include multiple party wide element blocking items to fix boss encounters. >Attack animations, especially Nihongobongo's basic attack, feel flimsy and have no impact. >Barely any dungson, the ones that are there suck. >Deserts are the most boring landscape to look at, and that's all you have to explore for the entire game. >Stat bloat out the ass >Level-centric damage scaling making stat bloat pointless. >Buffs raped to death, only luster candy and debilitate are worth the turn investment. >Charge is now strictly only an SP conserving ability. >Physical skills still cost SP and physical demons have low SP as if they still meant to go back to HP-cost physical skills but didn't go through with it.
Don't even get me started on how ugly and blurry it is with horrendous framerate issues.
Yeah I agree with most of what you said. I actually liked the overworlds more than basic dungeons, but the fact that it's almost all deserts is extremely disappointing. Having dungeons with unique themes would have helped make the game feel much more fresh.
>doubling down on shitty changes to combat, stats, abilities introduced in smt4
How so? The only thing that was really carried over from IV related to combat was skill proficiencies.
Stat bloat and physical skills costing SP was a change in 4 that sucked. Proficiencies are an ok change, it helped diversify demons a bit.
SMT IV:A is the culprit there, vanilla IV had everything fine in terms of skill unlocks and MP cost, IV:A just went fricking ridiculous on the MP demand, besides the skill affinity that I FRICKING HATE FOR FRICKS SAKE IT SUCKS
Worse part is that V barely gives you Chakra items, skills are even more expensive, rely too much on skill affinity, besides ALSO LEVEL, and buffs are just useless, they are single target in the beginning, then you need the PARTY buffs, they cost you half your demon's MP, stack twice and then fade after 3 turns, making other skills like Dekaja/kunda completely worthless, when the idea of keeping one of those was to obliterate the enemy's resources and turns it spent buffing up and trying to debuff you as well. ABSOLUTELY moronic
Nothing really. It's an amazing game that sold pretty well. I guess the most you can complain about is story is kinda lacking, specially at the end. Honestly I think a maniax version of this game could turn it into the definitive smt game.
I don't see how a serious fan of the series could like it. I could write an essay on it. >nostalgiabaits Nocturne but doesn't understand what made it work
In SMT3, there's more buildup to the apocalypse and when it finally happens, you wake up in a relatable area so you don't know the true extent until you finish the first dungeon and get out and see it's the whole world that was destroyed. SMTV you walk in a tunnel and boom you're now in the desert. That desert is also the only shit you see for 99% of the game while nocturne takes you through the ruins of all sorts of places like caves, subway tunnels, malls, high rise towers... There's more to be said here but tl;dr >story
Story is always weak in mainline, inb4 complaining, it is weak. Nocturne shows you how the world is forming their reason. SMTV, you wake up and first guy you run into already has everything handled. >gameplay
2 hours in I get crit by an enemy for almost an instant death. I level up once, the same enemy crits me and does 1/8th of the previous damage. That's all I have to say. Level weight matters here more than any game in the series. >music
Gave me a headache honestly. >performance
Awful on real hardware
Honestly didn't finish it but that's because I didn't fricking like it. If they keep making shit games like V then Persona deserves to take the series over since it actually tries.
>I don't see how a serious fan of the series could like it.
Most "serious fans" of SMT came in with SMT4 on the 3ds and hated persona because of a mix of console favoritism homosexualry and a shallow attempt at looking mature by arguing immaturely about how mature SMT is.
I finished the true neutral route+shiva. It's not a terrible game but it is pretty bad. Not as bad as SMT4 thankfully but I'm still waiting for them to outdo Nocturne, which SHOULD be easy to do but so far they haven't fricking bothered.
>In SMT3, there's more buildup to the apocalypse
in V, the apocalypse already happened a long time ago. it's all a sham and the world's been limping by with relative order since. that's not something that can be built up. your premise is mistaken because it's trying to be the opposite of nocturne, not a copy.
I think the way they handled it was fine but it probably would have had a bigger impact on the player if they treated it like a surprise twist. It's something you find out immediately instead. That or show how the npcs in the city are slowly losing their minds because the city is disappearing along with them.
If there were a V Maniax the false Tokyo would be where the game needs fleshing out. Like sidequests and/or more dungeons akin to the school where demons are breaking through.
I just think its kind of a shame that tokyo actually has a shit ton of dialog and development of the NPCs there losing their minds. There is a ton of nice foreshadowing there but the fact they are all top down and easy to miss makes the whole situation far less impactful.
>3 whole dungeons in the entire game. >The school is a load of nothing. >Demon King's Castle apparently filtered enough people that they had to nerf it in a patch. >Temple of Eternity feels like they were trying to make an EO dungeon with "dodge the FOE" puzzles but that design doesn't translate well since you can just b***hslap the "FOEs" pretty easily.
Demon amount and variety, especially finding fiends was a misery
Demon culling part dragged on for a while
Some parts that feel like they belong to the main story are shoved into sidequests
the guaranteed crit skill was too busted
other than that great game
dogshit environments that feel empty, and weak to traverse, weak roster, weak effeminate troony homosexual MC, and music isn't that great or people would be posting it like SMT nocturne's. overall it was just very eh
>At least its not MUH REASONS this time.
What didn't you like about reasons? They were shaped naturally by the experiences characters had in the real world and vortex worlds.
The weak girl came to value strength seeing that power rules all.
The guy who was desperate to be popular and accepted, even wearing trendy fashion shit and acting like a socialite, just wanted isolation after he lost faith in others and increased value in himself by escaping from prison twice with no one to save him.
The guy who wanted a world of stillness was keen on law vs chaos and the endless war it brings.
The woman who once agreed to end the world decided things were better off as they were and sacrifices everything to return it to normal.
just having no story and the level scaling was shit.
a re-release could be great, just add 2 new dungeons on the main story developing the characters, fix the scaling and maybe add something like the labyrinth of amala.
I like how there are people who b***h that V didn't use reasons the same way Nocturne did, while other people are thankful V didn't use reasons at all. For every opinion there is always the exact opposite with this game, why is that? Yeah I know it's Ganker but I rarely see a game this contested like V is even 2 years later.
>I like how there are people who b***h that V didn't use reasons the same way Nocturne did
I don't mind. I just wish SMT5 did what it wanted to do better instead of absolute shit. Also, thematically SMT5 and Nocturne are yin/yang, which is probably why the chaos-like delinquent went full Law, like Nocturne was a law based game being subverted by Lucifer's chaotic influence in the true demon ending.
V is clearly meant to be an inverted Nocturne and that's thematically appropriate based on what Nocturne was about. Even down to the fact that V is mostly outdoors and Nocturne is mostly indoors.
they forgot to make the story actually fricking matter
I swear, outside of Dazai and the archangel, everything felt anaemic
I liked the combat aside from the magatsuhi shit and the dumbass "boss is charging an attack" that you can completely counter with dampeners which are cheap as shit
the magasuhi gauge is interesting, but 95% of the time, you will just use the crit one because it will ALWAYS be available and is better than the rest in most situations
exploration was okay, I wish the demons had more thought put into their patrols/grouping as it felt very artificial in a world that is trying to be more rough and alive
overall, pretty good game, glad I played it, badly could use an updated port where they actually remember to flesh out the story and characters being a switch game, it also looked like fricking ass
>Hand him to you at the end of the game. >Is at like Lv40 or something.
I know his importance got dropped in development, but could they not have at least tweaked his stats to make him the highest tier Holy demon?
>let's have the modern setting of Japan like SMT1! >but also have the desolate post-apocalypse wasteland of Nocturne! >but also add notSocial Links like SMT4A!
I wonder what went wrong
The story felt unfinished, and both dungeons sucked total wiener.
I think they must have restarted development or something, because there isn't much cohesion. The stuff at the school goes basically nowhere. Hope they get it right next game because it was a lot of fun regardless
I don't understand why I didn't finish it. I stopped right where I have to find some golden apples and I just don't care about any of the side characters. I do like the mc, but since he is a silent character I don't have much attachment to him
Honestly, the story. That was my main issue I had throughout the entire game. The characters and world building are some of the worst I've seen in the series. It genuinely felt unfinished in spots, as if the devs forgot their own plot points or to put in important story beats.
A great example is the dumbass law rep. His build up is initially fine, but then you have the angel b***h outright try to kill you. So what does your "friend" do literally minutes after she tried to impale you? He begs you to come with him to save her and cheer her up. He doesn't even try to justify it or anything; he acts like you'd just naturally want to go support her. This isn't even mentioning how he quite literally turns evil at a drop of a hat. Like, actually takes his hat off, throws it off to the side, and now he's got a totally different personality where he's willing to kill you now.
I really enjoyed aspects of the game, but the story was, surprisingly, so poorly told that it interfered with my enjoyment of the moment to moment gameplay. On top of that, you had atrocious performance with the fps dropping sub 15, some of the most dull dungeon designs I've seen in the series (the last dungeon is quite literally just hallways, that's it), and pretty much zero replayability or NG+ content outside of different endings.
Funnily enough, just like Nocturne that SMTV was clearly trying to emulate, it really could use some kind of Maniax version that adds in necessary story beats, puts in some much needed content, and gets it off the Switch to a system that can manage above 20 fps.
Runs like sweaty hairy man ass on Switch and story is fricking terrible. Characters are okay, demon selection is great, combat system is interesting but just as easy to break in half like every other mainline game.
>level up once >game balance for the next several hours is skewed completely and irreversibly in your favor
there are still people on this board that will tell you smt v is not only the best smt despite almost every aspect of it being total shit, but also one of the best gameplay JRPGs as a whole
The game is a masterpiece in a similar vein to Nocturne where its too new and different for the old guard. Fantastic level design and turn based combat.
Doi
Switch
SMT is now exclusively for the C team.
No PC release. Not being ironic here. It would have been a better contender to release in PC then whatever frick "Soul Hacker" 2 was.
SMTV was worse than Soul Hackers 2.
Here’s your (You)
he's not wrong
I played Soul Hackers 2 he's fricking wrong
It wasn't that it was a PC release for me, but rather had bad it looked and ran on Switch itself, hampered further by a patch that lowered the resolution further to try and maintain 20fps. Game looks drastically better in Yuzu.
>try and maintain 20fps
Are you fricking serious?
Yes? Game was a performance wreck. God forbid you open the fricking menu also.
Unreal Engine moment
SH2 releasing before a SH1 port (even if it was shitty emulation) is boggling.
We know SMT5 has a Steam compile in the data mine, it's just a matter of Atlus getting off their ass, porting 4/4A and then releasing 5 at this point.
Why did they even call it "Soul Hackers 2" anyway? Such a forced "celebration" of a game that is already part of a larger series and isn't particularly well known anyway. They should have just made a new Devil Summoner.
no real direction, just tries to copy Nocturne without really understanding what made it so unique in the first place
I remember when everyone got angry about it because the protagonist had long hair.
Oh yeah. I got really angry, so angry I choked my own penis.
Not released to other platforms and the story was kinda ass. Gameplay was good though
The story and characters. Also no COMPs.
It had a bad story and atmosphere.
Seconding this, a shame because the gameplay was good.
Runs at 14 to 18 fps
in a post persona 5 world atlus can't sell games that aren't persona
Took too long to come out just to be a worse Nocturne
Here's why
Who cares what this guy has to say? He sucks. Just a pretentious loser.
Imagine falling for obvious bait so easily
hes the most wiggerest of wiggers out there, Its embarassing hearing him talk with his wigger phrases. Id rather watch 4 hours of persona 345 dick sucking than a minute of him
He's desperate to be black, but that's beside the point. Dont even now what he likes or wants in a megaten game at this point.
this is the dude that thinks smt iv is amazing because he got filtered by minotaur. you reupload music with shitty art you ripped off pixiv, nobody gives a frick about your opinions.
>simply troony
I’ve seen his skin color he’s definitely a mutt
>t.mutt
Gotta love how his new pfps all tried to make him look black too
>SimplyMutt
LMFAO
His opinions got more contrarian and so did his skin color
people who don't like SMTV coincidentally don't like Bleach for some odd reason
smt died with kaneko
Persona and Devil Survivor died with him too. It's hard to be optimistic about the future of any Atlus project now outside of maybe Etrian Odyssey since the team has a good thing going with those games.
wasn't some etrian dev involved in smtv and that's why the stat system isn't like traditional smt?
Afaik it was a new team altogether making V, also the person who directed was his first as well. So yeah they made a lot of rookie mistakes. SMTV kinda tried to incorporate mechanics from SJ, Nocturne and IV altogether, but they fricked up badly on the most basic stuff that made SMT different, like having level scaling mandatory instead of stats, and redoing the story many times that it just ended up being a mess just like the alignment system. At some point I even thought the game wanted to do a SMT Nine alignment system since the Bethel reunion pretty much fitted well for doing that, considering also that the game incorporated the "Light-Neutral-Dark" as well on the common Law-Neutral-Chaos alignment system, which was a thing on NINE, and SJ was a small detail for doing demon scout, Dark alignment demons weren't possible to scout at all except they asked you, surrendered or you fused them.
It was not a new team, it's Etrian Odyssey team.
Not much it’s the best smt
It wasn't persona
It was Persona, just without the heart
Nothing, best SMT.
Are any of the old smt devs at atlus any more. It seems like the current team doesn't have the same passion for the occult and all the stuff that they used for inspiration for smt back in the 90's and 00's.
>Are any of the old smt devs at atlus any more
Yeah, Doi has been working at Atlus for 20 years.
What it really needed was a Jack Frost variant. We could have had a Nahoheeno.
Weird game. It gave me a lot of things that I really wanted from 3.
>Pixie companion who talks to you.
>Brought back player-unique skills.
>Direct sequel to SMT3 with references and showcasing what happened to the world after god is killed.
>More laser sword abilities (I specifically begged for this for a while and I was happy I got cool laser abilities)
But then I wound up hating it.
>Stuck on switch
>Doubling down on shitty changes to combat, stats, abilities introduced in SMT4
>Magatsuhi-skill centric bosses.
>literally had to include multiple party wide element blocking items to fix boss encounters.
>Attack animations, especially Nihongobongo's basic attack, feel flimsy and have no impact.
>Barely any dungson, the ones that are there suck.
>Deserts are the most boring landscape to look at, and that's all you have to explore for the entire game.
>Stat bloat out the ass
>Level-centric damage scaling making stat bloat pointless.
>Buffs raped to death, only luster candy and debilitate are worth the turn investment.
>Charge is now strictly only an SP conserving ability.
>Physical skills still cost SP and physical demons have low SP as if they still meant to go back to HP-cost physical skills but didn't go through with it.
Don't even get me started on how ugly and blurry it is with horrendous framerate issues.
Yeah I agree with most of what you said. I actually liked the overworlds more than basic dungeons, but the fact that it's almost all deserts is extremely disappointing. Having dungeons with unique themes would have helped make the game feel much more fresh.
>doubling down on shitty changes to combat, stats, abilities introduced in smt4
How so? The only thing that was really carried over from IV related to combat was skill proficiencies.
Stat bloat and physical skills costing SP was a change in 4 that sucked. Proficiencies are an ok change, it helped diversify demons a bit.
Physical skills costing MP was a change in SJ though.
SMT IV:A is the culprit there, vanilla IV had everything fine in terms of skill unlocks and MP cost, IV:A just went fricking ridiculous on the MP demand, besides the skill affinity that I FRICKING HATE FOR FRICKS SAKE IT SUCKS
Worse part is that V barely gives you Chakra items, skills are even more expensive, rely too much on skill affinity, besides ALSO LEVEL, and buffs are just useless, they are single target in the beginning, then you need the PARTY buffs, they cost you half your demon's MP, stack twice and then fade after 3 turns, making other skills like Dekaja/kunda completely worthless, when the idea of keeping one of those was to obliterate the enemy's resources and turns it spent buffing up and trying to debuff you as well. ABSOLUTELY moronic
I could've sworn SMTV was already ported to PS5 and xbox, what the frick. Was it SH2?
Nothing really. It's an amazing game that sold pretty well. I guess the most you can complain about is story is kinda lacking, specially at the end. Honestly I think a maniax version of this game could turn it into the definitive smt game.
I don't see how a serious fan of the series could like it. I could write an essay on it.
>nostalgiabaits Nocturne but doesn't understand what made it work
In SMT3, there's more buildup to the apocalypse and when it finally happens, you wake up in a relatable area so you don't know the true extent until you finish the first dungeon and get out and see it's the whole world that was destroyed. SMTV you walk in a tunnel and boom you're now in the desert. That desert is also the only shit you see for 99% of the game while nocturne takes you through the ruins of all sorts of places like caves, subway tunnels, malls, high rise towers... There's more to be said here but tl;dr
>story
Story is always weak in mainline, inb4 complaining, it is weak. Nocturne shows you how the world is forming their reason. SMTV, you wake up and first guy you run into already has everything handled.
>gameplay
2 hours in I get crit by an enemy for almost an instant death. I level up once, the same enemy crits me and does 1/8th of the previous damage. That's all I have to say. Level weight matters here more than any game in the series.
>music
Gave me a headache honestly.
>performance
Awful on real hardware
Honestly didn't finish it but that's because I didn't fricking like it. If they keep making shit games like V then Persona deserves to take the series over since it actually tries.
>Story is always weak in mainline
not a thing for SMT2 or If 😀
>I don't see how a serious fan of the series could like it.
Most "serious fans" of SMT came in with SMT4 on the 3ds and hated persona because of a mix of console favoritism homosexualry and a shallow attempt at looking mature by arguing immaturely about how mature SMT is.
I finished the true neutral route+shiva. It's not a terrible game but it is pretty bad. Not as bad as SMT4 thankfully but I'm still waiting for them to outdo Nocturne, which SHOULD be easy to do but so far they haven't fricking bothered.
>Not as bad as SMT4
Stopped reading there. Imagine being filtered this easily by Naraku
>Story is always weak in mainline
2 and Strange Journey (yes I'm counting SJ as Mainline) are some of the best, though.
I loved most of the music in V (mostly the battle themes) but overall IV had the better soundtrack.
>In SMT3, there's more buildup to the apocalypse
in V, the apocalypse already happened a long time ago. it's all a sham and the world's been limping by with relative order since. that's not something that can be built up. your premise is mistaken because it's trying to be the opposite of nocturne, not a copy.
I think the way they handled it was fine but it probably would have had a bigger impact on the player if they treated it like a surprise twist. It's something you find out immediately instead. That or show how the npcs in the city are slowly losing their minds because the city is disappearing along with them.
If there were a V Maniax the false Tokyo would be where the game needs fleshing out. Like sidequests and/or more dungeons akin to the school where demons are breaking through.
I just think its kind of a shame that tokyo actually has a shit ton of dialog and development of the NPCs there losing their minds. There is a ton of nice foreshadowing there but the fact they are all top down and easy to miss makes the whole situation far less impactful.
Right it just needs incentive to go back there between bouts of exploration.
>3 whole dungeons in the entire game.
>The school is a load of nothing.
>Demon King's Castle apparently filtered enough people that they had to nerf it in a patch.
>Temple of Eternity feels like they were trying to make an EO dungeon with "dodge the FOE" puzzles but that design doesn't translate well since you can just b***hslap the "FOEs" pretty easily.
WHEN AM I GETTING MY FRICKING RERELEASE FRICK YOU ATLUS
I WANT THEM BACK
Switch exclusivity. Thankfully, Atlus has learned its lesson by not putting any more new games on Switch.
That because Switch 2 is around the corner.
Worked for Soul Hackers!
Contained to one platform, and more importantly is a platform that can barely run the game.
Demon amount and variety, especially finding fiends was a misery
Demon culling part dragged on for a while
Some parts that feel like they belong to the main story are shoved into sidequests
the guaranteed crit skill was too busted
other than that great game
dogshit environments that feel empty, and weak to traverse, weak roster, weak effeminate troony homosexual MC, and music isn't that great or people would be posting it like SMT nocturne's. overall it was just very eh
They decided to make it Nocturne 2.0 and u unfortunately that included the directionless story
At least its not MUH REASONS this time. Holy frick Reasons are easily the worst law route.
>At least its not MUH REASONS this time.
What didn't you like about reasons? They were shaped naturally by the experiences characters had in the real world and vortex worlds.
The weak girl came to value strength seeing that power rules all.
The guy who was desperate to be popular and accepted, even wearing trendy fashion shit and acting like a socialite, just wanted isolation after he lost faith in others and increased value in himself by escaping from prison twice with no one to save him.
The guy who wanted a world of stillness was keen on law vs chaos and the endless war it brings.
The woman who once agreed to end the world decided things were better off as they were and sacrifices everything to return it to normal.
>They were shaped naturally
you didn't get nocturne.
They decided to make it Nocturne 2.0 and not do anything that Nocturne did well.
Feels like a fan game made by people who didn't even like Nocturne.
For some reason it's the only SMT game I really give no shit about. Maybe it's the designs? The characters? The protagonist? The music?
SMTV is literally the only reason why I bought a Switch, which is collecting dust right now. Nothing offers the same experience.
just having no story and the level scaling was shit.
a re-release could be great, just add 2 new dungeons on the main story developing the characters, fix the scaling and maybe add something like the labyrinth of amala.
Switch hardware
I like how there are people who b***h that V didn't use reasons the same way Nocturne did, while other people are thankful V didn't use reasons at all. For every opinion there is always the exact opposite with this game, why is that? Yeah I know it's Ganker but I rarely see a game this contested like V is even 2 years later.
>I like how there are people who b***h that V didn't use reasons the same way Nocturne did
I don't mind. I just wish SMT5 did what it wanted to do better instead of absolute shit.
Also, thematically SMT5 and Nocturne are yin/yang, which is probably why the chaos-like delinquent went full Law, like Nocturne was a law based game being subverted by Lucifer's chaotic influence in the true demon ending.
V is clearly meant to be an inverted Nocturne and that's thematically appropriate based on what Nocturne was about. Even down to the fact that V is mostly outdoors and Nocturne is mostly indoors.
Yeah and I respect the idea behind that but the execution was pretty damn poor.
I hope SMT5 gets a big port/remake/extension that fixes everything.
they forgot to make the story actually fricking matter
I swear, outside of Dazai and the archangel, everything felt anaemic
I liked the combat aside from the magatsuhi shit and the dumbass "boss is charging an attack" that you can completely counter with dampeners which are cheap as shit
the magasuhi gauge is interesting, but 95% of the time, you will just use the crit one because it will ALWAYS be available and is better than the rest in most situations
exploration was okay, I wish the demons had more thought put into their patrols/grouping as it felt very artificial in a world that is trying to be more rough and alive
overall, pretty good game, glad I played it, badly could use an updated port where they actually remember to flesh out the story and characters
being a switch game, it also looked like fricking ass
Remember this guy? The game sure doesn't..
>Hand him to you at the end of the game.
>Is at like Lv40 or something.
I know his importance got dropped in development, but could they not have at least tweaked his stats to make him the highest tier Holy demon?
kek, thats exactly how i felt when they gave it to me, atlus' laziness knows no bounds
shouldve been lvl 80 at least
They believed the meme that SMT doesn't need writing or characters.
>let's have the modern setting of Japan like SMT1!
>but also have the desolate post-apocalypse wasteland of Nocturne!
>but also add notSocial Links like SMT4A!
I wonder what went wrong
The story felt unfinished, and both dungeons sucked total wiener.
I think they must have restarted development or something, because there isn't much cohesion. The stuff at the school goes basically nowhere. Hope they get it right next game because it was a lot of fun regardless
nothing, 4 was just better.
Not on pc.
I don't understand why I didn't finish it. I stopped right where I have to find some golden apples and I just don't care about any of the side characters. I do like the mc, but since he is a silent character I don't have much attachment to him
Bad ost
Bad story
Bad characters
The ost is the only thing I liked
Honestly, the story. That was my main issue I had throughout the entire game. The characters and world building are some of the worst I've seen in the series. It genuinely felt unfinished in spots, as if the devs forgot their own plot points or to put in important story beats.
A great example is the dumbass law rep. His build up is initially fine, but then you have the angel b***h outright try to kill you. So what does your "friend" do literally minutes after she tried to impale you? He begs you to come with him to save her and cheer her up. He doesn't even try to justify it or anything; he acts like you'd just naturally want to go support her. This isn't even mentioning how he quite literally turns evil at a drop of a hat. Like, actually takes his hat off, throws it off to the side, and now he's got a totally different personality where he's willing to kill you now.
I really enjoyed aspects of the game, but the story was, surprisingly, so poorly told that it interfered with my enjoyment of the moment to moment gameplay. On top of that, you had atrocious performance with the fps dropping sub 15, some of the most dull dungeon designs I've seen in the series (the last dungeon is quite literally just hallways, that's it), and pretty much zero replayability or NG+ content outside of different endings.
Funnily enough, just like Nocturne that SMTV was clearly trying to emulate, it really could use some kind of Maniax version that adds in necessary story beats, puts in some much needed content, and gets it off the Switch to a system that can manage above 20 fps.
not enough art of that cute boy wearing bikinis
Runs like sweaty hairy man ass on Switch and story is fricking terrible. Characters are okay, demon selection is great, combat system is interesting but just as easy to break in half like every other mainline game.
>level up once
>game balance for the next several hours is skewed completely and irreversibly in your favor
there are still people on this board that will tell you smt v is not only the best smt despite almost every aspect of it being total shit, but also one of the best gameplay JRPGs as a whole
Nothing it's the best game in the series.
game went through severe development hell and changed a lot while doing so
Atlus are literally satanic so it's fine though, frick them
The game is a masterpiece in a similar vein to Nocturne where its too new and different for the old guard. Fantastic level design and turn based combat.
>too new and different
>literally just a rehash of Nocturne
Only the most superficial story elements are like Nocturne. The game itself is not like any other SMT game.
Nothing
post the plusg