>sniper is... LE OVERPOWERED!!
>pyro is... LE OVERPOWERED!!
>demoman is... LE OVERPOWERED!!
>soldier is... le fine 🙂
why is this such a common opinion among bottomscorers? is it because their favorite e-celebs are soldier mains?
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Because if you can't deal with a soldier you probably fricking suck.
if you managed to frag them i assure you they were not like me
If you were from where I was from you'd be reakin' dead.
>Random crits are fair and balanced
overwatch is 2 blocks down 🙂
Do you care to tell the class what the original purpose of random crits are?
To kill the momentum winning team so every game isn't a complete roflstomp like uncletopia is.
>To kill the momentum winning team
Which is what unlockable weapons do and what team scrambles are also used for. Next.
>unlockable weapons do
Black person what
>team scrambles
nobody scrambles
>Next
You're crying about crits while being complete shit at the game.
>It doesn't count because... I say it doesn't!
>bro if youre losing just change team lol
hehe
Uncletopia is a stompfest because it's full of Black folk stacking teams with discord
Random crits have a fricking snowball mechanic you cretin
So the crits go to the players who are most likely to kill MVPs on the other team.
Also what
says. The more damage you do the more likely you are to get "random" crits, therefore destroying your argument completely.
Literally the opposite:
> Critical hits are one of the features that resulted from our focus on pacing. The critical hit system attempts to slightly influence the highs and lows of the game, by increasing the chance of a critical hit based upon the player's recent performance. In summary, the better you're doing, the more likely you'll continue to do well.
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Gravel_Pit_developer_commentary
The changed their design philosophy since the game released. Play any server with crits disabled. It's always a stomp. Crits give breathing room to the losing team.
The question was "what the original purpose of random crits are"
The answer for teams being unbalanced is 5CP by the way. The gamemode handles unbalanced teams the best way you honestly can by simply having matches with unbalanced teams end quickly so a scramble can happen and you spend more time on the games where the teams are more balanced.
The problem is 5cp has other problems which will never be fixed because the gamemode is criminally underappreciate by tf2gays.
I've grown to love 5CP over the years. Stalemates are fun, feeling the back and forth of each team's influence is fun, and like you said, it's the best at handling rolls. I loathe the argument that I constantly see that 5CP is only good for Competitive play. 12 vs 12 5CP is glorious and adds in enough chaos to facilitate the gamemode's strengths.
>Random crits help losers despite being up to 6x as likely to occur based on damage dealt because muh headcanon
Дa хyй cocи, чepтoпoлoх
>Random crits are fun and balanced
Fixd so that i can say "This but unironically"
this map became shit the moment they removed the random staircase on top of one of the buildings, you used to be able to build stuff in there and I'd use it for sentries and teleporters
But that would go for pyro as well. If anything there is more justification for having trouble with soldier than pyro.
It's like a litmus test for competence. Either you learn how the game has worked for the last decade and a half or you froth at the mouth, autistically unable to cope with a single class out of the nine. Then again, you're probably a Pyro main who hates Demo/Scout/Heavy too.
Actually I do hate Scouts the most but I'm a Medic main. Go ahead, free hits because I hurt a lot of soldiergay feelings.
>>pyro is... LE OVERPOWERED!!
no one ever says this. The best you would get is a phlog pyro being OP and that is only if the other team feeds him.
there's someone complaining about wm1, airblast, phlog, scorch shot or afterburn every time i play
>wm1
literally just shitters crying that they can't shoot a class that walked up to them
>airblast
maximum crybaby behavior since airblast no longer stuns you in place. it is a little obnoxious but it's manageable
>phlog
it's a pubstomp weapon, and extra brainless to use because of the
>scorch shot
it's easy-mode detonator. it should have been a unique weapon instead
>afterburn
when applied by any flamethrower, afterburn only hurts if he burned you for long enough to be lethal anyway, otherwise it's a pathetic tickle. But afterburn from flares is always max duration and damage, which points back at the SS being annoying
>Someone says Soldier is overpowered
>ask them why
>it's because they got killed running directly at a soldier while they were playing spy, medic, sniper, engineer or scout
Soldiers are moronic, spy is the closest thing he has to a reliable hard counter
And then everyone clapped.
No one would answer "Why is Soldier is overpowered?" with such an obviously moronic argument. You just invented your own little strawman in your head to knock down. People tend to say soldier is OP because of his lack of counters. Which has some credibility considering the closest thing he has to one, pyro, requires the pyro player to be better than the soldier player, not much of a counter.
I'd say he isn't op, but it does feel kind unfair when not only does he not have any real counters, but he's also really versatile and his versatility isn't really that much of his skill ceiling
>People tend to say soldier is OP because of his lack of counters.
>scout = outmaneuver him, use high ground, do not fight him in a tight space
>pyro = airblast, flare punch
>soldier = play better than him, idiot
>demo = you do more damage, can set traps
>heavy = he needs 4 rockets to kill you and you can out dps him, do not let him splash you around corners
>spy/medic/engie/sniper = stop engaging the primary combat class in a direct fight or at a range he can kill you when you are a support class
people have no excuse for being bad still or not knowing class matchups
Counters as in classes that actually better than him in a 1v1 by default. If you're resorting to saying "play better than him" then you aren't acknowledging a natural counter.
No one thinks soldier is weak to scout, or demo, or heavy or even pyro really.
>you're resorting to saying "play better than him"
I only said that in reference to a soldier/soldier matchup
How do I get good with Scout, especially his other guns as his only good guns is just the Scattershot and Force A Nature.
Force a nature is probably his worst primary.
>How do I get good with Scout
You don't, just pray RNG doesn't frick over your scatter gun spread and hope the source engine ghosts like you that day and calculate hit registration properly.
there's no reason to use any scout primary but the scattergun
My only strange primary is the shortstop. Thus I use it.
get good at map sense, movement and believe it or not aiming kek
Because soldier is the easiest class and everyone can score kills with him
Lmaobox was 20 bucks. Anytime. Somebody is a comp gay try hard I just switched to sniper and turn on my A5 and have it set to only target those players.
>Somebody is obviously using aim and wallhacks
>They are still adjusting their sensitivity and are aiming at people far away
>Rush in with the wrap assassins and get a melee kill with it as he can't aim at me
>Proceed to taunt with G and tell him how much he fricking sucks that he got killed while using aimbot by a wrap assassins
>Spends the entire match after targeting me thinking he is hot shit as I continue to taunt him in chat
lel
>he is unable to defeat the tryhard homosexual without resorting to paid cheats
>bro just play fairly against the tismo no-lifer with 10000 hours come on bro waste your life getting good at this 20 year old game
nah lol
what a strange way of saying you're shit at the game and you need to pay for cheats to win
sounds like you're a loser IRL
bad bait
but that's the truth, and you know it
>cognitive dissonance
Anon, you're a moron who paid for cheats.
How do you manage to call someone a tryhard while caring so much that you paid for hacks in a videogame because you can't stand losing
You're just an upset sour graping little shitter that would absolutely mercilessly stop casual fresh installs if you were actually good at the game
>have it set to only target those players.
>replying to yourself
pathetic
is... LE OVERPOWERED!!
I win games by doing nothing but spawn camp snipers that have 10k hours
>Zesty Again SSETES at sniper
O what you gonna do you ginger gay? cry? Cry like a little Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiich
None of them are overpowered.
The only overpowered class in the game is Medic and it's fine.
Soilder is a mediocre class barely top 5, its uniornically your fault if you can’t dodge any of his slow ass 40-60 damage rockets. Maybe stop playing on hallway maps
Take me back to TF2 prior to item trading
TF2C has a classic mode
The only time pyro was overpowered was when you could get him to 225HP with the release backburner now that was miserable. Nowadays they even nerfed the axetinguisher for no good reason.
Yeah it was very weird going back to TF2 after a few years and see how many changes were made to the Pyro. Nothing major, but they clearly wanted to make sure there were no popular or dominant strategies among his items.
>people complain about puff & sting
>the sting gets gutted in confusing ways despite the literal stunlock being the cause for complaints
>pyros instead switch to the reserve shooter
>the reserve shooter gets nerfed despite the literal stunlock being the cause for complaints
>airblast finally gets nerfed, none of the other nerfs get reverted
what the actual frick was the backstab iteration of the axtinguisher though? The game has so many strong design foundations and then you get bullshit like that and the facestab knife as an actual thing they tried.
>The only time pyro was overpowered was when you could get him to 225HP with the release backburner
Never got my hands on a backburner for when that was possible. But how OP was it really?
Don't get me wrong I'm sure the nerf was well warranted. But I do wonder how much of people complaining about original backburner was people who were still trying to fight a close range class at close range. Thing about 2007 pyro was he was so shit you could kill him really brainlessly and I'm wondering how much people were just not adjusting to the fact you needed an actual strategy like "don't let him get close" to deal with him.
Airblast was the way forward with the class for sure though, way more interesting than making a second spy class.
at the time airblast was a brand new thing, so it was just an extra 75 hp on top of what pyro already was capable of doing.
and no, 75 isn't a mistake. You need to remember how easy it was to shove a medigun into them and just let them walk forward
having 50 more base health already change important breakpoints for killing a pyro, now you couldn't and that meant you're stuck fighting them for at least 3 well-placed shots
>so it was just an extra 75 hp on top of what pyro already was capable of doing.
Which was basically nothing because pyro was already acknowledged to be the worst class in the game before that update.
>there were no fancy alternates to hard/softcounter him so 225hp pyros could really just wm1 into almost any class
You didn't necessarily need much. Scout could keep his distance, soldier/demo have movement, and the ability to sent pyro into the air and heavy still have more hp and damage at close range. Any other class was support and meant to be dying to pyro anyway.
Fair point on it being more of a problem when he was paired with a medic.
Pyro was the second? class with unlocks, so there were no fancy alternates to hard/softcounter him so 225hp pyros could really just wm1 into almost any class, but with overheals it was incredibly obnoxious and im glad both it and 150hp scout is gone.
>kill someone with a crocket
>"IF GOD HAD WANTED YOU TO LIVE HE WOULD NOT HAVE CREATED ME"
Even Soldier knows what's up.
soldier isn't anywhere near overpowered you fricking moron
he has an even matchup against pretty much every class that's supposed to fight him
There is not a single class I cannot counter with any class, some are harder than others... EXCEPT for Heavy as scout, I just run away. How long ago was it that they nerfed the bat + cleaver combo?
you can 3 tap a heavy by getting real close to him and jumping all across his face, its not that hard unless he is using the natascha
the pyro is easily the worst class in all of tf2, no one calling this guy OP has a functional brain.
Spy is arguably worse than Pyro. He's completely outclassed at whatever his role is meant to be by Scout, Sniper and Demoman. I guess people ignore it because he's fun to play and takes some skill.
Still you're right Pyro kind of sucks, people just get ass mad at his low barrier to entry and get wound up by the easily negated damage over time.
No father figure.
I know it sucks but goddamn is it fun to use!
the mod that replaced it with a megabuster was absolute peak
This game has been out for almost 20 years and people are crying about classes being overpowered? LITERALLY nobody cared about balance back when this game was actually played. What the frick went wrong? Is it zoomers? Matchmaking?
>Nobody cared about balance when everyone was a shitter
You want an award for that statement?
>Great majority of players main the easiest class
>They obviously don't think he is overpowered as that would reflect bad on them
It's that simple.
Because Soldier is the default class. He is Quake gameplay.
Every class is overpowered if it's run by a 10k hour sweatlord. I just want to have fun while sipping a beer. My ass needs to be sober and taking notes to play against some of these monkeys.
>He bunnyhops around a corner after calculating it would take 15 seconds for you to respawn + 4 seconds to reach the spawn door, and calculates after killing a demo and medic he would have a 60% chance of firing a crit in the next 3 seconds, and perfectly times a rocket to fly through the opening spawn door and kill you and the guy behind you
Guess you should have learned matchups, kiddo
play on no crit severs then
hes not overpowered but I would say soldier is the easiest class for sure
I dont get why people complain that casual isn't exactly like competitive
my man, just play comp
i havent played since 2017 but direct hit soldier was the most dominant playstyle in the game back then. Shotgun secondary and you're unstoppable under medi
I dont even get what pyro's role is besides being an airblast bot protecting your team
soldier can kill people faster than pyro can at close ranges
Easiest most reliable spy check
who even needs spy checks though
most of the time they just stab one person then instantly die
The pyro turns that into zero persons stabbed you fricking inbred.
He's there so new players can get easy kills without having to aim.
soldier doesn't have to aim at close ranges either, and has more health
No class has to aim at close range
The only thing that bothered me were nerfs. They made unlocks too milquetoast and boring. The whole point of unique weapons is to provide actual gameplay changes, not a tiny percentage that can only be noticed with a microscope, so to speak.
Never seen anything OP and never complained even once.
Is it true that dedicated servers are gone?
this reeks of "person who gets their opinions and information from the crackhead behind 7/11, or people who don't know what the frick they're talking about"
no. the servers aren't gone.
Haven't played since late 2011, that's all.
That's why they are at the bottom tho. They are crap-minded. Also even my mom can get frags with Soldier.
Because TF2 is (kind of) an arena shooter and it'd be lame if the rocket launcher sucked.