So after the turn-based Baldur's Gate 3 inevitably outsells FF16, can we admit that this dude is an absolute fricking hack? Can what he did to FF be forgiven?
So after the turn-based Baldur's Gate 3 inevitably outsells FF16, can we admit that this dude is an absolute fricking hack?
I've been saying he's a hack for years. Maybe people will understand now.
Why are you people so obsessed with this guy?
Dude has a cult defense force that has called him god for years. People are sick of it and finally willing to roast him for how boring and sterile his games are.
Literally his cult is just happy that he has given them an MMO and you act like they raped your son.
Maybe if his cult wasn't a bunch of troons shitting up this board that wouldn't happen
Shitting up what? Where? They don't go outside of XIV threads and only flood the board every 2 years when expansions hit.
>They don't go outside of XIV threads
lmao
I know you're lying and literally only making threads like these to talk shit new releases but you seriously need to get shot.
They do. They’re not even content with their own VG thread so they regularly shit up others as well
Surely you can post some proof of this then?
>inb4 archives of threads during expansion launches or threads seething about 14 existing
XIVgays are a scourge on any other FF thread
Because there are so many of them?
I don't see many if any Final Fantasy threads on Ganker at this point. The only people I really see bringing up XIV outside their own threads are homosexuals like you b***hing about it.
This. Actually if you got to ff14 threads its just people enjoying ff14
The haters are more annoying and they accuse you of liking ff16 and 14 even though they are different games, they unironically believe only one guy makes those games and that means you have to like them all
Like, apparently if you liked twewy you have to like kh3 too kek. Pure autism.
>but he failed!
And? Nomura also has a few failures, and their and yoshida are just SE bosses putting those games on PS5 and epic being morons.
SE released Octopath, support that. SO2 remake is coming too, as well as other jrpgs like Euyiiden, Pennyblood and Armed Fantasia, just support those instead of keep proving you homosexuals rather spend more time complaining than buying what you claim you want.
It's not like you homosexuals won't doompost a turn based ff17 anyway, since ff is sadly trapped in the nintendo ptsd trauma with ps1 so every ff thread must be attacked, same reason sonicgays has no right to enjoy their games
Live and let live, you are too old for this console war
its more like Ganker has a hate boner for specifically yoshi-p only. however, Ganker has a raging boner for nomura. go figure.
>Ganker
'Barry'
Only tendies. Most people don't give a shit and move on, waiting for the next game to change.
Like I said, people should complain less and support other turn based games.
>Nomura
People are gonna hate FF and the one making it no matter what. We have a schizo in every Trails, Atelier, Tales of, Neotwewy thread.
You would be surprised how hard is to discuss about any jrpg here unless it's called Xenoblade or fire emblem (srpg but still)
/v/tendo
I literally didn't even know how this guy was, and still the one who made that moronic deal with Snoy were S-E executives
Same reason Jack's game and NEO the world ends with you were treated like shit too, despite being good games
Is this cult in the room with us now anon?
Yes.
so he is like Kojima
I have never once seen him in the catalogue before like the last year, but i have seem you cultists spamming multiple threads about this random jap in the catalogue for months now
You Nintendies call every people enjoying non nintendo games either a cult or redditors. Apparently you can't accept people can like other games
Same reason you seethe about Gabe because of Steam Deck
nice fanfic. take your pills. the ones calling it a cult are wowgays or barry
So angry your gay general got destroyed
And? If people want to suck Nomura, Yoshida, Kojima, Todd etc wieners then don't go to their threads?
cults function better when they have an enemy
He raped his mother.
I'm just tired of ff14 troons shitting up this board
>hates ff14 players shitting up the board
>but makes or bumps threads that bait them
>increasing the amount of them on the board
Make it make sense, anon.
>I hate ff14 threads!!!
>one real gets posted in a day
>7 more threads seething about 14
You upset the cultists
Same, those troony cultists need to stop
He was worshipped for years by ff14 cultists which eventually annoys most people and now hes being taken down a notch.
Hes alright and im sure hes actually a great guy in person most people here shitting on him would be too scared to do it irl but thats just how it be
He listed off all the things that people like about JRPGs and said that Final Fantasy needs to distance itself from them, including the JRPG label.
He's a blight who will kill everything I love.
>He's a blight who will kill everything I love.
What do you love?
Underage protagonists with oversized swords and spiky hair killing gods with the power of friendship.
And fanservice. Lots of fanservice. I don't think he said anything about that one though, but SE does have an ethics department already.
Go play Genshin Impact and Honkai Star Rail. Yoshida ain't killing those.
I am playing Star Rail, but when a representative of the industry leader of the genre says it, it has weight. He has to be proven wrong not just by other games succeeding (like Star Rail and Atlus games) but by his own games failing, thus proving that he's out of touch and that other devs shouldn't listen to him, like what happened with DmC Devil May Cry.
Then he's not much of a leader of the genre, is he?
Yoshi is only known for FFXIV, but SquareEnix itself is responsible for FF and Dragon Quest which are undisputedly the historical genre leaders.
But yes, that's the idea. Square Enix says stupid shit and then their games fail and everyone laughs at them and then the rest of the industry loses faith in them and doesn't try to imitate them. That's the goal.
So, it doesn't matter. Britain was the historical leader of the world once. Before them it was France and the Dutch and China and India. No one cares what SE has to say about JRPGs and DQ is about as dead as Final Fantasy.
And watching the iconic Final Fantasy brand die after a long tirade about how the JRPG genre is dead while other JRPGs continue to strive in spite of them might just be the wake up call that other JRPGs trying to pander to western zoomers needs.
Of course I wish they would correct course instead.
What other JRPGs are trying to pander to western zoomers?
No idea but his drones are the most annoying Black folk on this site so I'm glad to see his game flop.
ff14 shills worshipped him as some cult god
he was then on ff16 and the ff14 cult kepr going "just wait yiull see ff16 will be great" then it came out and its the worst one yet most far removed from anything ff or rpg like in the series and is also the lowest selling FF ever, so the yoshi-P cultists and by extension yoshi-P are getting shat on rightfully for damaging the FF brand more than ever.
Wow schizo whales pissed off that ff14 has been stealing its thunder and have gone full autismo and dedicated their lives 24/7 to ruining this man.
Ganker is a WoW board, always has, always will be.
Says the newbie
People praise him as a good producer/director and that makes Ganker mald hard as frick because everything in this board has to be a tortanic, a failure, otherwise it's not fun, you feel me?
That and also OP is just an ex-14 boomer that quit during ARR or HW hating on him because he probably wasn't able to make any friends playing the MMO.
FFXIV isn't an MMO
we know, op
That was my first post, cope. Yoshi's problem is that he's boring and safe as frick in all the worst ways.
yes we know, op
cope
Also learn how to use commas
we are aware, op
[spoilers]And go back to school[/spoiler]
Coz producers do all the promotion. And idiots on here are too stupid and lazy to look up who's actually making the game.
So they think the guy on the promo video (yoshida) is the guy who makes the game.
Because they're morons.
Tendies expected ff14 v.1 to kill ff and they thoght ff would crawl back to nintendo until Yoshida fixed ff14
Why have you made like 8 threads
if turn based jrpgs sold well, FF would still be turn based
Persona says hi. I havent checked but did ff12 and ff13 really outsell ff7, 8, 9, 10, relative to the size of the gaming markets when they launched? Find that real hard to believe
Persona didn't sell because of turn-based combat you moronic homosexual.
the turn based combat is part of the reason it was so well received. the combat received widespread praise. if it was shit like in p2 it wouldn't have been successful.
SMTV is not popular because the story in that game is around the level of a Pokemon game. if it had a decent story I'm certain it could have reached 2/3 million sold
Nta but it sold because of the social links.
Also then you should admit ff16 would have sold more if it was on ps4 and pc too then
Smtv is not popular because no SL
P5 story is shit
you guys have such a simplistic and idiotic view of why/how games sell. it's never a single aspect it's always the whole package. that's why it doesn't matter if it's turn based or action, everything has to work well together. there's plenty of JRPGs with social links nowadays who are less successful than SMT. SMT could've been even more successful if it only didn't frick up one of the core aspects of an RPG completely, destroying the whole package
>As of March 2023, the Persona series sold more than 18 million units worldwide, including over half from the Persona 5 sub-series
A fricking MMORPG FF sold better than this, please.
The entire Persona franchise is at like 19 million sales. All the spinoffs and shit included. That is not that much when God of War Ragnarok already sold 10 million. Turn based JRPGs are still niche as frick, especially when they refuse to do full voice acting
>Persona says hi.
SMT says hi. Do you want FF to really turn into a dating sim?
i would honestly prefer that over current gameplay ff
Persona 5 sold less than Nier Automata with far more advertising
Taro should make the next FF.
>throwing Taro's talents away on the sinking ship of Final Fantasy
Better than mobile shovelware hell he's been working since automata.
LOL, no. It isn't. But, fine. Petition for Taro to try and save Final Fantasy. You'll only kill him along with FF.
Couldn't agree more.
Yeah I want to see what his Idea for a Final Fantasy game would look like definitely more interesting than trying to copy western slop
No one who actually loves Taro would want him to bleed his energy into Final Fantasy.
If they just let him do whatever I dont see the problem, FF needs somebody creative directing it instead of someone who is just gonna copy and paste shit they saw elsewhere
I agree. Yoko Taro at the very least would give us a great story, and a truly dark Final Fantasy.
No, you frick faces. FF doesn't need anything but to die. You worthless shits need to move on, because no one in 25 years has been able to do jackshit with the franchise and you wish to take someone talented and successful and sink their career with a mainline Final Fantasy game. Just how selfish can you buttholes be?
So because nothing makes you happy, then nothing should be allowed to persist? I'm sorry. What big project is Yoko Taro spending his time not making a Final Fantasy game on? Another phone game? Wow. I'm so fricking glad his talent is being put to good use on a phone game that is locked to Japan and only localized a year or two later again.
Shut the frick up.
Fine. Throw Taro onto Final Fantasy XVII. Enjoy the horseshit SE will force him to make. That's the kind of world you want. You don't want him doing his own thing, you want him on your masturbatory fantasy game, you worthless failure.
Yea and Konami will be able to resurrect Metal Gear, Sonic will become as big as Mario again, and Halo will be great again. You want SE to do what it hasn't been able to do in a quarter century and you want to throw the most talented creative mind SE has at the problem instead of doing what he has done so well at and that's his own thing. It's not drama, it's hysteria that you people take successful individuals from other games and throw them at Final Fantasy and all its problems. I hope you choke on Taro's FF17.
>throw the most talented creative mind SE has at the problem
Yes, are you fricking autistic? why would you not put the best people who can fix the problem onboard the project so that its good
stop being a drama queen as if FF could sink any lower than 13 trilogy and everything after
It just needs someone with an actual clear vison directing it instead of this focus tested trend chasing bullshit
Taro could phone it in and still make something better than what we have now
I'd love to see what a team-up of him and Nomura would be able to cook up, because it would either be a masterpiece or a complete train wreck, but a spectacle no matter what.
Doesn't even have to be FF related.
>Nomura
Nah, that fricker had his chance, more than enough chances actually.
Taro directed Final Fantasy be like:
>Some medieval war is going on
>You need to kill soldiers and monsters to progress through the game
>"Uh oh! You killed those evil soldiers and monsters? Well actually they were nice people that were simply doing their job and protecting their homeland from people like you! YOU'RE the actual bad guy!"
>Some young kid runs up to you and calls you a murderer because you killed their father despite that father trying to kill you earlier in the game
>There's sidequests like collecting wolf fur from wolves, but then the game tells you that you killed the poor heckin wolves that were simply minding their businesses
>Someone in the main party says "War....is bad. War changes people for the worst."
>Protagonist dies or gets some bad fate in the ending of the game because "muh murderers don't get happy endings"
>Obligatory Nier Automata connection
Also:
>random troony character as party member
SE nuthuggers are mentally ill and so always hype the new guy before he delivers pure trash to them (again.)
I'm the anon you responded to and no, there's no trannies in DrakNier unless you want to mention, whom is more so futa than a troony.
>troony lover cope
many such cases
I hope they give you a Taro FF so you turn on him too after getting another pile of trash
Dude is too LGBT-friendly.
As long as he doesn't have a say on the gameplay.
FF7 did 5.17m on ps1 in 11 months (time aligned ff7 would be 4.5m in 1st month just for jp(3m) us (1m) and eu (500k) which is what it did in first month of those 3 regions), 6.57m on ps1+pc by 1999, sold 9.3m across ps1+pc by 2003, sold 9.8m by 2005 with ps1+pc, took 10+ years to hit 10m and after 27 years its at 14.1m across 10 platforms, ps1, pc cd-rom, ps3, psp, ios, android, steam, ps4, switch, xb1
FF8 was 6m in 1st year on ps1, sold 8.1m across ps1+pc by 2003, took 20 years to hit 9.6m across 10 platforms ps1, pc cd-rom, ps3, psp, ios, android, steam, ps4, xb1, switch
FF9 was 3.4m first month time aligned, 5.3m on PS1 by 2003, took 20 years to hit 6m across ps1, ios, android and steam
FF10 did 4.8m in first year on ps2, 6.6m in 3rd year on ps2, 8.5m on PS2 after 13 years, took 20 years to hit 14m with 5.5m added from the hd port so ps2+ps3/vita/ps4/steam/xb1/switch
ff12 was 5m first year on ps2 by 2006, hit 6m by its 3rd year, hit 7m with the hd port and was 7m by 2018 across ps2, ps4, xb1, switch, steam
ff13 was 5m in its 3rd month on ps3/360, 5.5m by its 5th month, 5.7m by end of first year, 6.6m in its 3rd year, 7m by the time it came to steam, is 7.7m currently across ps3, 360 and steam
ffxv was 5m day 1 across ps4/xb1, 4m on ps4 alone day 1, hit 6m in 1 month where 5m was ps4 alone, hit 6.6m in 11 months and 7m by 1 year, 7.1m by feb 2018, hit steam in march 2018, 7.7m by august 2018, 8.1m by sep 2018, 8.4m by nov 2018, 8.9m by oct 2019, 9m in dec 2019, 9.3m in 2020, 9.5m in feb 2021, 9.8m in nov 2021, and last update 10m+ in may 2022 across ps4/xb1/steam
ff7r was 3.5m in 3 days, 5m in 4 months, no sales update since but it did 500k at least on steam after a whole year on steam, at best its at 6m across ps4, PS5 and steam
ff16 did 3m in a week and still 3m after a month
If they made a FF with good gameplay, it would sell well.
by that logic, every FF has good gameplay, and I'd be enclined to agree except for XV
The switch 2 port will save ff16
>almost as strong as a ps4
Kek maybe in your dreams
xv has the best gameplay
xv literally is the best selling ff
>the best selling ff
*is not the best selling
BS. They were preaching this “turn based doesnt sell” crap as far back as FFX. When it was still very much selling.
My brother in Christ
>inb4 doesn't count
>pokémon
I mean, it literally doesn't count
How? It's turn-based. It's an RPG. It sells gangbusters every time. Everything else is cope.
Pokemon GO made over 6bil with no combat. People don't play Pokemon for the combat lmao
But it's not like being turn based is hurting the mainline game series.
Hell, Legends Arceus changed the formula somewhat and it sold slightly less.
What I'm saying is, why should Final Fantasy be afraid of alienating modern gamers with turn based combat when one of the most normie friendly, mass appeal series in the world gets on fine with it?
He said TB Jarpigs, not Madden.
BG2 outsold FFVIII
No it didn't. Not even close.
FF16 is a success
At this point I can't tell if this is a good thing.
It's not great but it isn't totally disastrous like some mentally ill schizos on Ganker would have you believe
3 million as the only PS5 console exclusive other than body type souls is good, yes. Someone is sure to bring up God of War or something but those reboots are both ps4 games. Japan also isn't huge on PS5 either, and they have no reason to be considering it's a western company that censors everything except Abby's burrito body.
Yes, 3 million is good for the current situation ff16 is in. They got money from Sony for exclusivity deals to make up for it. It's no better or worse than how FF used to be in its better years.
>announce game
>release game
>move on
very nostalgic. It's just the Barry homosexuals that are still upset that Versus XIII took 10 years just to be released as a botched product that everyone bought and regretted.
>Yes, 3 million is good for the current situation ff16 is in.
100 million dollar budget btw.
SE doesn't get every dollar from each sale.
And the game has proven to have no legs.
Why do you think this is a good situation again?
>100 million dollar budget btw.
source ?
Yoshida of course
https://www.gameinformer.com/feature/2023/02/28/final-fantasy-16-designers-discuss-why-the-series-hasnt-been-turn-based-for-a
>Yoshida: "When creating FFXVI, you can't ignore the data that's been taken from the fan base, from Final Fantasy I to XV.
>So, again, creating a Final Fantasy, a numbered Final Fantasy, has become such an endeavor, to the point where your development costs can go upwards of $100 million, just to create one game. And so to recoup that development cost, you need as many people playing your game as possible.
and before the cope begins, there is no reason for him to give a number that specific unless that was close to or is the budget of XVI.
>to the point where your development costs can go upwards of $100 million, just to create one game
>can
thanks for talking out your ass
And there's the cope. He's so angry that he couldn't make it to the rest of the post.
oh I've read the whole thing. Nothing in that quote says FF XVI cost $100 million or more to make
Of course it does.
You're in the denial phase currently.
Going nuh-uh isn't going to change the fact that a game 7 years in development and had a 100 million dollar budget underperformed.
>7 years
if you actually did some research you'd know full scale development wasn't 7 years, it was a core team for several years and kept adding staff until full production.
Sounds like XV but no one excuses that game either.
Development doesn't start when you say it does.
the industry differentiates pre-production/planning and development. Actual development started after Shadowbringers released.
>the industry differentiates
*fanboys in denial
ftfy
you're the only one in denial, please do some research on this too
>no you
Not surprising this is what you resort to.
what else can i tell you ? if you can't accept the fact that planning and pre-production doesn't require hundreds of people working on computers, and that full scale production only starts after that, I truly don't know what else to tell you
>what else can i tell you ?
Come up with a better cope that isn't just a re-run of barry. He made this excuse years ago. Games don't start development when it its convenient for a narrative.
but a game costs $100 million to make when it fits your narrative, right?
>but a game costs $100 million to make when
the producer of the game, the man who is in charge of the budget, says it during an interview yes.
Your tears aren't going to change this fact.
Source? And if vid, provide timestamps
Once again, yoshida himself.
From his famitsu weekly column.
you're twisting his words. I don't know why in your mind he *HAS* to be talking about FF XVI, when FF versus XIII/XV was in development hell for ten years, or when FFVII remake had to scrap 2 years of outsourced work to reboot the project internally. Surely he couldn't be talking about those, right?
>I don't know why in your mind he *HAS* to be talking about FF XVI
>talking about XVI
>talking about getting people to want to play XVI
>talking about how a game like XVI cost 100 million
>well OTHER game!
The cope is strong.
Weird tho, that SE came out right away and said both XV and 7remake were successes and praised their sales.
For xvi though, they had to give a disclaimer for install bases first lmao.
>So, again, creating a Final Fantasy, a numbered Final Fantasy, has become such an endeavor, to the point where your development costs can go upwards of $100 million, just to create one game.
again, until they publicly disclose FF XVI's budget, he could be talking about literally any other FF entry we don't know the budget of. You're the only one making shit up and projecting your cope onto me.
>he could be talking about literally any other FF entry
>for games he wasn't the producer of and has no knowledge of their development as he wasn't in their business unit
the cope is outstanding right now lmao
You really are moronic. He's on the fricking board of directors you moron, he has knowledge of just about anything going on in the company
>fricking board of directors
*he was not on the board of directors when XV came out, which anon just brought up as a game he was talking about.
Really running out of excuses here. You shift the blame to other games, when he was literally talking about XVI and wanting people to play his team's game.
You are just like barry. Pathetic and sad.
>Really running out of excuses here. You shift the blame to other games, when he was literally talking about XVI and wanting people to play his team's game.
>when creating a (unspecified) Final Fantasy, a numbered (unspecified) Final Fantasy, has become such an endeavor, to the point where your development costs can (for unspecified title) go upwards of $100 million, just to create one game.
it's not like he's working in a high position at Square Enix and knows everyone in high position or anything. I bet he never ever talks to anyone outside of his unit, I bet budgets of literally any game aren't common knowledge for someone in his position.
>Yoshida: "When creating FFXVI, you can't ignore the data that's been taken from the fan base, from Final Fantasy I to XV.
> You have this whole generation of gamers that grew up with this, [and you need] to get those generations to come in and also play [FFXVI], which has this image of not being that type of game
weird, how you have to ignore these quotes just for your crying meltdown to continue.
He's talking about XVI. Before and after the quote in the post.
You have to let it go. $100m flop lmao.
>He's talking about XVI. Before and after the quote in the post.
yeah, Before and after, and he's talking about an unspecified numbered FF's budget in the relevant quote.
he's talking about ff16
which cost over $200m because it was in actual development for 8 years
xv was only in development for 3.5 years according to noctis Japanese va, versus never had any big costs because it was a fricking spinoff you moron
by yourself logic SoP FFO cost a frickton, it even has visual works prerendered CG like versus 13 had!
are you sure ? I'm thinking FF XVI cost over $300 million to make and was in dev for 10 years, you can't prove me wrong
meant for
If the game only cost $100 million didn't it already make all of that money back by selling $210 million in its first month
>selling $210 million
>he thinks SE gets ever dollar from each copy sold
lol
lmao even
first of all it didn't cost $100m it cost over $100m, significantly over
if a game like tlou2 cost $200m plus then so did ff16
additional 30% goes to sony and retailers so at absolute best ff16 only made like $147m
>if a game like tlou2 cost $200m plus then so did ff16
TLOU2 has literally the best animation work in gaming, and arguably the best graphics. Not even you believe FF16 is on the same level. The quality of the sidequests alone should tell you they didn't have an insane budget
he's talking about ff costs
he says ff goes over $100m
he kept saying ff16 is extremely expensive to make
So that means XVI-2 and XVI-3 basically confirmed?
Not with those sales
Why? XIII sold like shit and they made 2 more sequels to it. XVI sold like shit and they will make 2 more sequels to it in order to recoup the costs. Seems like a win for me.
>XIII sold like shit
lol no it didn't. This is what happens when xvigays get angry, they make up headcanon to deal with the pain.
So what about XV? It was a financial failure far bigger than XVI and got shit ton of DLCs. Maybe this one will get it too.
Once again, XVIgays just making up headcanon to deal with their own pain.
XV was a financial failure though. Square said it themselves.
https://www.windowscentral.com/square-enix-posts-33-million-loss-cancels-many-final-fantasy-xv-expansions
>the studio that was founded from XV's success
>the 2nd round of dlc that was made after the 1st round's success
>cancelled because of reasons that weren't due to xv
Anon you're seriously moronic lmao
>has nothing to do with xv cists
>occured TWO YEARS AFTER XV ALREADY RELEASED and ALREADY PROFITED SINCE DAY 1
also xv mobile game made $375m in 2018 alone which SE gets a chunk from and the xv pc version MADE $33m in 2018 on steam alone, you're fricking moronic
that $33m thing isnt even a loss of spending its because some new ip projects and cg production were cancelled in 2018 which meant they could no longer make $33m they had planned to make from them
that non canon set of xv dlc that was cancelled hadnt even started proper development, it hadn't even been written yet and had nothing to do with that either
your own link debunks you you illiterate frick
All owned by epic action, fricking moron
moron
Even if they got 5% of that every quarter its still huge
ff13 sold 2x better than ff16
xv is literally the best selling ff of all time you moron
why are xvigays so fricking moronic
>xv is literally the best selling ff of all time you moron
no it's not
yes it is
it sold 10m faster than any ff in history ergo best selling
best selling = fastest selling
thats how Amazon uses the term too whenever something is a "best seller"
best selling is best selling, and it's not XV
>Mogged by 4, 6, 14, and 7
Is this why they killed luminous? Kek
>that nosedive between 10 and 12/13
Dios mio
moron
XV is the best selling FF because it sold the most in the least amount of time
FF7 is the HIGHEST selling FF because ot sold the most with no time period required
best selling is specifically highest selling within a specific time duration
the specific time duration is the lowest amount of time
ergo xv is the best selling
I'm thinking the best selling is the one that has tons of spin offs and a remake trilogy
That's not what best selling means
FF7 is 1st highest selling because it sold the most total lifetime regardless of time
FF10 is the 2nd highest selling FF because it the sold the 2nd most total lifetime regardless of time
FFXV is the 3rd highest because it sold the 3rd most total lifetime regardless of time
FFXV is 1st best selling because it sold the most in the least amount of time out of any FF when comparing each FF in the same time alignment
FF7 is 2st best selling because it sold the 2nd most in the least amount of time out of any FF when comparing each FF in the same time alignment
FF10 is 3rd best selling because it sold the 3rd most in the least amount of time out of any FF when comparing each FF in the same time alignment
>FF7 is 1st highest selling because it sold the most total lifetime regardless of time
so it's the best selling, thanks for the confirmation, not that I needed it
FFXV is 1st best selling because it sold the most in the least amount of time out of any FF when comparing each FF in the same time alignment
FF7 is 2st best selling because it sold the 2nd most in the least amount of time out of any FF when comparing each FF in the same time alignment
FF10 is 3rd best selling because it sold the 3rd most in the least amount of time out of any FF when comparing each FF in the same time alignment
best selling =/= highest selling
highest selling is without time period specification
best selling is with time period specification
So 7 has more feats than 15 in that sense, highest selling and 2nd best selling. No wonder it has a compilation amd still has games developed for it and made it to smash with 2 of its character.
What happened to this?
XV is the best selling and 3rd highest selling, at rate its selling it'll beat 10 and 7 too since its already outpaced their sales time aligned
>what happened to this stuff that all released
they released, are you fricking moronic?
Yet all the DLC got canceled for it after a certain point since nobody gave a frick about it anymore. The issue is the game was hyped up so it sold heaps but then was so bad it damaged the franchise beyond repair
All the canon dlc for xv released in 2017 then it got a bonus batch of canon dlc in 2018 and 2019 then only a bonus 3rd batch of non canon alternate timeline 2019 dlc was canned you moron and that was only because tabata decided to leave and a bunch of devs went to his new company so se didn't want to do it without him so only a bonus non canon alternate timeline bonus 3rd year set was canned, all the canon dlc released
it also sold better than any ff at launch and post launch when time aligned too you fricking moron
it also sold better on steam than any ff and it came to steam over a year after it first launched so you're even more fricking moronic
It's not getting any new games for it tho. That doesn't sound like a successful saga. Didn't its multiplayer rip and its dlc? How do you explain that please
So ff8 isn't successful because it has literally nothing outside ff8 itself even though its the 4th highest selling FF?
comrades is fully playable single player and all xv canon dlc released
moron
FF8 got outsold by BG2, history repeats
if game A sells 2
and game B sells 1
game A is the best selling game
your time alignment cope means nothing
No you fricking moron
If game A sells 10m in 10 years, game B sells 10m in 15 years and gane C sells 10m in 5.5 years then game C is the best selling
Mother of cope lmfao
From you because ff16 flopped?
No
best selling is dependent on least amount of time
all 3 are equally best selling then
>Barry tries to gaslight that "fastest selling" and "best selling" is the same thing
have a nice day Barry kek
Thats literally what best selling means when Amazon uses it but keep coping
Pretty sure that's how all industries use the term. Think it started with book sales (NYT best sellers list maybe?)
XVI-gays are moronic, I wouldn't bother trying to reason with them.
In white languages best means #1
This is why Australia shouldn't give the smelly abos free internet.
No best selling means specifically least amount of time+highest amount in that least amount of time
highest selling itself is just the total highest
they do not mean the same thing you stupid frick
when Amazon calls something best selling it means the thing that sold the most in the least amount of time
not thing that sold the most total lifetime
The fact that you have to try to cling to semantics to make a dead studio's flagship game look good is all I need to know about 15.
You're the one who doesn't know the difference between best selling and highest selling you stupid underage frick
Just because you identify as a woman doesn't mean you are a woman just like you identifying 15 as a good game doesn't make it it's user score (7.6 lol) get any higher.
Cope
ff16 utterly flopped and you need to stop projecting about your troony lifestyle xvi cultist
see
ff16 cultists are so insecure you gays spam voted metacritic with sockpuppet accounts just to inflate the userscore because it was at 6.8 userscore when ff16 first went up and you butthurt cultists got so insecure you created thousands of sockpuppet bot accounts to try and flip the score
the fact it has such little scores in places that requires buying the game to leave a review just prices ff16 cultists spam voted the userscore
>game that's been out for 7 years has 524 ratings
>game that's been out for a month and half has 123 ratings
this isn't the own you think it is, Barry
xvi cultists are losing it
Oof. Really making 15 look bad. First you don't know what "best" means, now you resort to amazon reviews? Then the sock puppet conspiracy to ice the schizo cake.
so FF XVI has the fastest ratings when time aligned. Nice self own, barry
Correct. 16 is the best rated final fantasy confirmed.
4.6 > 4.5
Ohnononono
ffxv is better than ff16 yes
See
The actual userscore ff16 had before ff16 cultists raided it with 10 spam from sockpuppet accounts to the point it has abnormally large amount of scores disproportionately to the amount it has on sites like Amazon that require buying the game to reviews it
World of Final Fantasy is Better than 15 yes.
15 is better than woff and 16 yes
woff is better than 16 yes
Idk. WoFF has better Amazon score so I'm going to go with the Barry approved metric.
WoFF > 15 > 16.
Mindbroken.
>literal fake numbers
I thought this thread was all about fake numbers given the amount of bullshit anons make up
Tendies are truly deranged
>newbie barging in to start console war shit
many such cases
>tendie reeling since he got called out
Seems I hit the nail on the head
no ff16 flopped
FF games are frontloaded as frick, and will never be evergreen like Monster Hunter/Zelda/Resident Evil.
today i actually realized ff16 is hard
you have to unequip the shit that makes the game too easy and now you actually have to pay attention to the enemy
>So after the heavy metal 72 Seasons inevitably outsells Fear Inoculum, can we admit that this band is an absolute joke? Can what they did to rock be forgiven
When i was a young whipper snapper i really liked squaresoft games but the company can release some real stinkers these days. I noticed a change in quality after that enix merger.
Why can’t we go back to the 4homiesinarow
rare item drop grinding is like a slot machine. i hate that crap so damn much.
FF was already dead when he took the reins of XVI.
It was already on a downward spiral with XIII and XV basically said "Yeah we're not really doing RPGs anymore", he just followed up on that without pretending the game's got anything to do with FF.
Even in the first trailer, they literally say "The legacy of the crystals has defined our fate long enough." , couldn't be more forecoming with his intentions for the series.
What I'm saying is, while he is a hack, he's just the final result of a downward spiral, which was started largely by dumbfrick Toriyama, and executives not understanding that trying to turn FF into KH following Nomura's success would be a terrible fricking move.
The thinking heads at Square Enix have no idea why everything from XIII to XVI flopped even though each game was made progressively more action-y until XVI actually became a full character action game.
XIV was initially very respectable work, and he 100% understands the value of having a Metzen-like rockstar developer for an MMO, but even that game just kept getting worse and worse, while initially he promised it would be constantly getting more content once they had, quote, "paid off the technical debts left by 1.0" but instead each expansion got LESS content and the story got shittier.
All around a very sad situation. Square leading into the ESG shit only made matters worse on top of all of this.
Duality of Ganker
but xv is more rpg than any ff since the ps1
I'm glad Yoshida is in charge of the franchise now. He's literally produced the only good games in the series since XII and Tactics, the guy understands there is nothing unitive about the identity of Final Fantasy games other than Chocobo, Moogle and summon references. He saved the franchise by bringing over WoW players and making his stories more like Game of Thrones, Devilman or Attack on Titan, and less like FF6-11, games nobody other than a small number of people like. FF17 will be more like Zelda, and that's a good thing.
If you don't like 14 or 16, you don't like Final Fantasy.
ff16 has good gameplay and the last ff i played was ff8
ff16 combat is actually hard and complex
the first playthrough is to teach you how to master all the stuff you can fight with
im actually excited to play the game in new game + with harder enemies now
>hard and complex
lol
yes it's true
the first playthrough goes easy because they want the cinematic audience
Arcade Mode is challenging
I think you could do better by switching up the writing style a bit, B-boy.
Or should I call you Larry boy now?
>yoshi-P is good because he turned FF into something different
>if you don't like 14 or 16, you don't like FF
>>if you don't like 14 or 16, you don't like FF
The same kinds of people that only played 14 or 16 and never touched a previous FF title.
>less like FF6-11
FFXIV is very much like a modern 3d FF1-6, and obviously 11. What kind of fricking moron do you have to be to post something so stupid? You're just parroting nonsense. Yoshida knows the franchise, yes, but you sure don't.
ff17 confirmed for having ultrahand?
>daily threads screaming BG3 will be shit because its turn based
>suddenly turn based is le heckin good and based
unironic cult behavior
That's mostly RTwP morons.
FF hasn't been turn based in a decade why do you specifically seethe at him? 16 was at least great fun
because theres a cult that does nothing but seethe at him because his game was popular while WoW killed itself
And there's also a cult that sucks him off every chance they get
14/16 discussion is nothing but Yoshi-P cultists and anti-Yoshi-P reactionaries flinging shit at eachother
FF14 killed itself trying to cater to WoW players and normies. Game has never been easier.
Because the game isnt on Switch or PC
That’s literally the only reason it’s getting endless shitposting
what a coincidence, final fantasy hasn’t been good in a decade
Why would he be forgiven for making a good game?
What the frick do you want him to do, make Final Fantasy XIV online into some turn-based slop, just because ONE turn-based game happened to sell well?
You turn-based man babys with stumps for hands and shit for brains are incredibly fricking moronic. kys
>make Final Fantasy XIV online into some turn-based slop
It'd be a lot better than the progressively dumbed down WoW-for-morons slop that it is now.
I wish jrpg devs had the talent to make a good turn based game like Larian. FF jobs would do well in a cRPG. Unfortunately they're only capable of baby tier mash x movie slop.
FF hasn't been relevant for years. Every dingle mainline since the merge is dipshit.
Fromsoft is the new Square Soft. Every Fgays should move on.
I still dont have a single fricking clue why they said that fricking character action games would have a bigger audience reach than turn based.
You still buy FFslop?
>12 - incoherrent star wars ripoff with cut content
>13 - hallway simulator with cloud but female mc
>14 - dumbed down wow with horrible core gameplay
>15 - lmao reused assets of versus 13, 10 years for gay roadtrip
>16 - dmc wannabe with the worst story pacing and has a literally gay dragoon
>turn based boomers lumping 4 Black folk jrpg genre with strategy/tactics
I hope FF17 is just like BG3 just so I can lol at boomers getting filtered by having to assign their own skill points.
They should bring back spell slots too.
Did he juts bud lighted FF?
Why do schizos keep blaming him for Final Fantasy not being turn based.
How? By having relatively short reach and mainly keeping to their own threads?
He said that he didn't think turn based was as popular as action games. Even though Final Fantasy has been moving towards being an action game since 12 (11 if you want to count the mmo), there was never a specific person to blame for that decision since the games were being directed by different people. That comment, plus his high position in the company and being the director of the MMO, most likely just made him a scape goat for the turnbased fans that felt betrayed.
Yeah pretty much.
Because of that quote he became the frontfacing punching bag for turnbasedgays who felt slighted and the sword&board anti-turnbasedgays used to piss the other side off.
Tbh I wouldn't mind a turn based ff but square has tons of rpgs that are turn based.
Barry wishes xv has a cult out of that 10 million
Dude not only produces biggest MMO on the planet, he also produced new mainline game which is a hit and fricking MIND BREAKES entire Ganker.
I love you Yoship and can't wait for FF17.
Love Yoshi-P, but I always hate secondaries saying "wow he looks good for his age!".
No, he fricking doesn't. Chain smoking made him age 25 years in 10 years.
Just wanted to vent.
The hair can be deceiving.
Not as big as WoW. Couldnt even handle a fraction of WoWs player base
>mfw BG3 is going to mog FFXV + XVI combined.
Don't lump 16 with dogshit like 15
They are both weeb trash.
Imagine playing western games in 2023
Enjoy your trannies and Black folk
>Playing weeb games
These shites are troony enablers. Thus playing any weeb game makes you a troony
>troony enablers
>jap shit
Its not the japs pushing this shit, keep seething though, pedo
Jap games are full of crossdressing and "draw girl call it a boy" shit.
Your preferred brand of troonyhomosexualry is still troonyhomosexualry.
>schizos still fail to understand japs do crossdressing shit to mock it
okay, dr. pizza
>Still believes his heckin based honorary whites version of nipponland
Jej. Never meet your hero anon, I was once naive like you. I wish I could go back.
okay, pedo
Shut the frick up israelite
israelites would blush at the degeneracy of those troonygays in Japan. Birth rates aren't low because of socio economic reasons, mostly because their men are all troonys or homosexuals
ya cross-dressing and gay in jap games are comic-relief, not to be taken seriously, not to push an ideology
The homo's last and final cope
Japs love crossdressing and little children.
Same as troons.
>he says when westernslop lets you make actual troons
absolute joke
I dont see the issue here along as I don't make a troon in the character creator.
He wishes his dick was that "big"
this troon is literally one of the biggest xvi shill on twitter
its so fricking over
game is literal confirmed troonslop, I refuse to play it for that alone
jesus
her dick is smaller than that irl
they’re practically the same game though, shitty action games with bad anime writing that pretend to be final fantasy
dont lump gay dogshit 16 with ludokino xv
>gay beastiality game outsells heterosexual simulator
This isn’t the own you think it is
Witcher 3 mogs BG3, who cares.
it mogged ff16 and ff14 yes
Yes yes 15 is the moggiest. Can you post more barrymons before you get banned again? I need inspiration
ff16 flopped
your tap to attack but keep proving you never played it
I played the base game, which is the onlyversion that matters. Tried royal, all the additions still isn't cohesive and is clearly an afterthought. I was a fan once, diehard even. Shitted on it ever since i played better games. Ff is dying, not even 16 is saving it. Nothing ever will
wrong
you tap to attack
So you don't even play the game you glorify daily? Makes sense, since you're always here
At one point he literally tried to claim that magic grenades weren't a thing either.
The guy's a complete lunatic.
You dont know what grenades are
too bad ff16 has no magic, just dmc guns
FF16 has magic bursts and magic/charged magic casting
FF15 has magic grenades you need to craft
fricking lol
Wouldn't know. I just held down O and finished FFXV
So you didn't play xv
The game is a fricking joke anon. Do you honestly think FFXV has a good combat system? It's fricking dogshit and it's very obvious it's their first attempt at a hack n slash FF game
Keep proving you never played the game
you tap to attack
hold is optional for people who dont know how to play
See there he goes again. Complete lunatic.
Kek I think 16 is shit, but it looks leagues better than either side of this webm.
nope
So dragons dogma is grenades because you aim it?
16 has no magic, no magic stat, no status effects, just reskinned dmc gun projectiles
xv has magic stat, elemental affinities, status effects, can instacast magic directly to target like in kh or aim it like dragons dogma magic, and you use magic elemancy points to create it so ot has a cost to make too
>you are your own webm
cope xvi cultist
so you never played xv
you tap in xv to do proper attacks
hold = you die
its better than any kh but keep proving you never played it
>its better than any kh but keep proving you never played it
Way to instantly discredit yourself immediately
>Under leveled
>still survives 30 secs
>team still fighting
>they've taken 0 damage
LMFAO
You don't even have to play 15. Just teleport to a wall and let your immortal party win. No wonder it got a 7.6 user/81 critic score.
That isn't underleveled
those enemies first appear in chapter 3
that is chapter 3
they are literally supposed to be faught in that chapter at that level
its game over
no wonder ff16 sold less than any ff and has 6.8 true userscore
>Mash 1 button vs hold 1 button.
16 wins by default.
Thanks for proving my point abo-kun
I didn't use a single spell in FF XV, nor craft any magic grenade, i did however use magic bursts and charged magic a lot in FF XVI
16 has no magic or magic stat or elemental affinities
using fire in 16 against bomb deals damage which is anti FF
using fire in 15 against bomb heals it which is FF
16 is not ff
No they aren't
you cast them
Elemancy points is absorbed from enemies using engine weapons or from elemental spots at camp
when you craft a spell they are stored in a flask
when noct uses it he shrouds his hand in the element you're casting then he casts it
like here nothing is being thrown, he casts directly from his hand to the locked on target
Why do you have gay porn saved on your computer?
Barry, how the frick have you never managed to pull off a dodge throw?
that is a canned finisher animation that only happens if its gonna finish off the enemy and that animation was added in as a reference to the omen trailer, not a regular cast
Cope
Its worse than xv in every aspect
>Its worse than xv in every aspect
The story of 15 and the battle system are so bad I feel like you didn't even play the game.
Do you remember the Leviathan fight in 15? I dunno how this awful fight was ever conceived as a good idea
15 has the best story in the series and best combat yet
leviathan is better than any dogshit ff16 kaiju shit
ff12 has 7.6 userscore
stop coping because ff16 has 6.8 true userscore
>leviathan is better than any dogshit ff16 kaiju shit
Barry man if you are gonna defend the shitstain that is FFXV at least learn to discuss it's negatives as well. I mean I know you are trolling but in the rare instance you aren't you might as well be brain damaged
Larry stop coping because ff16 is worse than anything and everyone in xv
>Cope
The fact that you have nothing else to say when shown the Grenades says a lot lol
That's a flask, learn to read, he absorbs it innately, uses the elemancy to store in a flask for custom effects; then when casting you can instacast by tapping r1+o to cast it like in kh, only if your hold down o do you aim it like in dragons dogma
>That's a flask
And if you fill a flask with explosives and throw it, it's a grenade.
Idk, looks like one of them borderlands longbow grenades to me.
I mean I guess you could technically call it a Molotov if you want to be pedantic.
still blows my fricking mind that this entire FF game shipped without fricking magic, instead you have to harvest materials from resting spots and make nades with it, and then they're all completely busted, easily reaching damage cap, breaking it to 99k , or even giving you 2x Exp for seemingly no fricking reason.
Why does Comrades have an actual magic system but the main game doesn't?
It's so ridiculous.
please stop dragging DD into your defense of some of the most horrid, overbudgeted dogshit ever released. more than anything it makes you look like the dumbest Black person alive for comparing DD magic to grenades you JO charge with your bros sitting around a campfire
>16 is not ff
You can argue this point if you want but it doesn't stop it being a better game than 15.
What's he throwing there? Looks like some kind of hitscan Fortnite grenade.
>using fire in 16 against bomb deals damage which is anti FF
>using fire in 15 against bomb heals it which is FF
I gotta hand it to him, he's got you guys there.
Broken clocks and all.
Completely delusional about the granades though, they're not spells. They used items instead of spells to justify in lore having the whole team use spells, since magic is only for the crystal guardian, but at the same time the Kingsguard can use teleportation through making a pact with Regis, and it's canon in the multiplayer DLC that everyone can use magic in the same way, so they really just shat the bed, there's no excuse for it.
That being said, XVI doesn't have magic either. That's like saying Dante uses magic when he shoots lightning balls out of a demon weapon.
>So dragons dogma is grenades because you aim it?
Haven't played DD, so I can't say. But since I have played over 400 hours of XV I can tell you that they're not grenades because you aim them, but because they're literally physical fricking grenades that Noctis tosses around. They have an actual model and everything.
Barry didn't play HIS game lmaooo
Are you blind and moronic? you clearly never played xv
why are ff14 cultists so mindbroken
>Metacritic matters now, but only if I fudge the numbers with dlc with less than 100 reviews
Lol Barry see
. You can even average 16s scores if you want.
Looks like you can't read
Show a single article fron 10 years after ff14 launched or even 6 years where it was stated most profitable, oh wait
only after 11 years is pathetic
when xv released se said it beat every ff to 6m which includes ff14 meaning xv was more profitable in its launch month than ff14 was in total by 2017
luminous are in cbu2 making ff17
cbu3 are never touching a new mainline ff again
If you post a new Barrymon I'll color a digivolved might even find it in my heart to unflatten their chests.
I'll even join you vs hkman and dreamboum and whoever else is bullying you.
That looks like shit
I know. Teach me to draw Barry-sama. Maybe with new deluxe Barrymon?
Barry-kun, can you tell me loud and clear the most profitable FF game that carries the franchise nowadays?
A tip: it isn't made by your favourite, dead and already fricking closed Luminous Productions KEK
Barry, answer me before roping!
>you tap to attack
do you, though ?
>Bu..but you didn't use a Fortnite grenades!! That's a different button!
Kek what a turd. Glad Luminous is dead.
did nobody play FFXV? that was the first mainline game to go for "action" combat but you people act like 16 started it
Doesn't count according to the Anti-Yoshida cultists
XV has too many canned animations and characters flipping around non stop. It's "real-time" but it's not a full on action game. There is a difference.
its more action based than ff16 and more of an rpg too
every single cooldown ability in 16 is a canned cutscene attack
Holding square is now glorified as a good action gameplay. I'm not gonna read any replies so don't bother
Just because he "Saved" an MMO by copying an even more popular MMO at the time, doesn't mean he can save an entire franchise by frankenstiening other well known franchises and hoping it works.
Who can save FF?
Sakaguchi
Gooch liked ffxv and xvi. It's unironically Joever.
Liked but not made. What are you on about
Just put it in Yoko Taro's hands already, the series can't get any worse than it is.
How about you homosexuals let the series die and let talented people with their own franchises to run make the games they want to make.
>How about you homosexuals let the series die and let talented people with their own franchises to run make the games they want to make.
But it IS dying, that's why I said it can't get any worse than it is.
No, you said you wanted to waste Taro's time with Final Fantasy. Just frick off and let it die or kill it faster. You're not helping.
Then Taro wouldn't do shit for Final Fantasy. Tell your fellow Tarogays that.
>let talented people
>Taro
Platinum carried him in automata. Every game before and after has been mediocre at best.
And this is from someone who actually did play the drakengard games.
>Every game before and after has been mediocre at best.
They've been mediocre to shit because of the team he had (Cavia I think), I always told my friends if he had the right team, his games would be great, Platinum was a fricking god send for him.
Takatsugu Nakazawa
He frankensteined a boomer button masher of all things lmao when slow methodical arpgs are the current hotness
>lmao when slow methodical arpgs are the current hotness
Since when Elden Ring is slow and methodical? It's fast as frick and suffers from that because Souls combat is shit against bosses that are literally anime swordsman.
>It's fast as frick and suffers from that because Souls combat is shit against bosses that are literally anime swordsman.
Just use your ashes and summons, bro.
>Just use your ashes and summons, bro.
>Just use the things that makes you play the game less, bro
I did and that's why I don't like ER. Not making XVI just another Soulslike was a great direction imo.
Too bad ER sold well and XVI didn't. Enjoy your auto-battlerslop.
>Enjoy your auto-battlerslop.
So Elden Shit?
Yea.
You set the game to baby easy mode yourself and you're blaming the devs for it, think on that for a minute
ER came out last year and built upon DS1-3. XVI started development in 2015. ER is still slow by the standards of platinum’s action games
>ER is still slow by the standards of platinum’s action games
They keep making the bosses harder and faster while making the playable character almost same as Demon's Souls playable character. XVI's problem isn't the speed imo. Souls games suffer from lack of player speed and abilities imo because bosses became more ridicilous while players don't have a moveset capable of fighting against them. Not saying Elden Ring should've had juggling but should've had aerial combat.
>You set the game to baby easy mode yourself
Elden Ring bosses are built around summons though. Malenia is prime example. She was never supposed to be hard once you used a summon, like any of them.
>It's fast as frick and suffers from that because Souls combat is shit against bosses that are literally anime swordsman
Profound skill issue. Game's literally slower than ds3.
>Game on PS5, XBox, Mac and PC
>PC settings are so relaxed a decade old GPU can run it
>"Could it outsell a game ONLY on the PS5?"
What if Square made XVII a higher budget Fire Emblem clone?
I think it's clear that FF17 should be a Baldur's Gate clone.
Would be a kino direction seeing as the original ff drew heavy inspiration from d&d
Yeah but like unironically.
A FF CRPG sounds fricking amazing. I don't know what team would handle it or what setting it would use but I would eat that shit up in a heartbeat.
FF job system would fit in a Larian game like a glove. SE would turn it into baby shit like the rest of their games though, so they would have to stay far away from it.
Yeah but only if they make it like the original bg instead of larian's trash
Okay hear me out. What if it was a Final Fantasy clone?
Sounds like shit.
17 might be turn based, but how do you elevate its gameplay from its predecessors?
Baldur's Gate sucks. It has the most coma inducing gameplay in a videogame.
Wrong thread to post wrong opinions.
>beat by elden ring
>beat by hogwarts
>beat by pikman
>beat by baldur's gate 3
its over
Finally, the Fantasy is dead.
You mean save the franchise from the FNC?
Something that squeenix has endlessly stated?
A FF crpg that heavily leaned into the expansive job system sounds bretty good tbh.
Drop a bit of FFT into that, use some of the more fantasy steampunk pseudoscifi settings and we have potential gold.
Yeah right. Just look at the comments of this video
No normie wants to play a turn based game, so it won't outsell ff16
Bruh it peaked around 500k on Steam. The game already sold ~3 million copies on Steam.
>Can what he did to FF be forgiven?
Why, Barry?
He saved FF after the mess that was FF15
but ff16 sold worse and is worse than ffxv
“People don’t want turn based games nowadays” has been a literal psyop for damn near 20 years now. DQ11, Persona 5, XCOM, fricking Pokémon all sell well. It’s only the fricking morons running Squeenix that say this shit. The only reason they haven’t touched DQ yet is because Japan would probably break out into civil war, but based on some speculation even that might get fricked with
Its insane how much people fricking parrot that opinion contrary to whats actually happening
Square dont just want to admit that they still dont know how to recapture the Sakaguchi (and Kitase I guess) era
For every Persona, there's an TotK. For every DQ11, there's an Elden Ring. For every Pokemon, there's a Genshin.
SE's incompetence doesn't not absolve you of your ignorance.
>Make not DVD menu combat turn based
>outsell every FF
Turnbased is fine as long as it's not jrpg. Japan doesn't know how to make engaging turn based combat. Its why DQ11 is losing to Darkest Dungeon.
I REALLY want to resub for the tokusatsu costume that comes with Moonfaire this year. but i have no desire to buy EW or play
Just buy it from the cash shop when you want to return.
Dont be too harsh on him.
You can see that he's a hack even without bald and gay 3.
>So after the turn-based Baldur's Gate 3
The problem is FF turn based are really boring 4 dudes in a row spreadsheet menu option games. Clicking the fight button over and over and getting random encounters isn't fun.
BG and other CRPGs have some actual thought to the combat which makes it fun. Yes, you can break the games with an OP build, but you don't *have* to do that and you can play pretty tactically and there's no spamming one menu option over and over to clear thoughtless random encounters. All the encounters have thought to them as well, there is no random shit.
Actually if you make a decent party you can clear most of the encounters with autoattacks.
>I hate chinks so I'll bow to the israelites
Don't thinks so moron, I'm no interested in either of them so I don give a frick
The amount of samegayging in this thread is insane, I'm just filtering any mention of xiv and yoshida from now on, XVI has been out for a month and this Black person is still spamming
What does one have to do with the other?
Theres probably more current Baldur's Gate 3 owners than there are PS5 owners. The forced exclusivity was a death sentence.
TURN BASED CRPG =/= TURN BASED JRPG
DONT FOOL YOURSELVES
You're wrong. This thread has clearly proven you wrong long before you posted.
There is a reason JRPG is considered a slur. It is the inferior product. The Walmart brand of RPGs.
yoshitpiss damaged the ff brand
Yoshi didn't make FF11,12, 13, or especially 15 though?
>xvigay throwing XI and XII under the bus to make yoshida look good
oof
14 is shit too. Getting me confused with one of the voices? Are you okay old man?
>didn't bring up XIV
>but XIV, yeah he was talking about XIV!
There sure are voices anon.
My bad. 16 is shit too.
12 > 11 > 13 > 16 > 14 > 15
>anon replies to a shitposter by throwing other games under the bus and skipping yoshida's games
>then backpedals to make it seem like he actually doesn't like any of the games anyway.
really getting that internet W today aren't we.
I like 1-10 though? Some more than others. Do you think I'm one of your boogeyman?
All I've heard for years from his weird sex cult is how he is a literal god and would usher in a new golden era of FF with his amazing management and vision. 16 is among the most boring and dogshit FF games produced to the point that even 15, garbage as it is, felt more innovative and risky while having fewer problems than 16.
I do not get the love for this man, and I do not understand why his constant failure is defended at every turn when the only 2 games he made are extremely grindy, slow, mediocre visual novels.
>sex cult
NTA, but explain
Why do you keep seething and calling everything a cult.
all those sold better than ff16
ff16 damaged the brand
>playing FF post 2006
You all got yourselves to blame for your mental illness
Entry by entry post FFX the core fan base is dropping. This series needs a drought phase for a decade to get their shit together. While at it, make new games too. No one other than the audience that grew up on their early days are buying their stuff and those boomers are dwindling each new game.
Hilariously enough, post X was when they started inching away from turn based/ATB combat.
They say they had to make the change for audience/sales reasons, but they didn't stop losing customers until they made the change.
>XV- 81
>BG3- 93
But he's not gonna talk about that and will deflect any mention of it.
Luminous Productions status: Dead
CBU3 status: Life support
15 Lost. The best it can hope for now is a tie.
luminous productions are just regular AAA SE team in CBU2 now and are making a AAA existing SE IP game (FF) and continuing engine development on Luminous Engine
AAA existing SE IP can only mean AAA FF, and other than FF7R which is CBU1 the only AAA FF getting made are mainline FF, so the Luminous team in CBU2 are doing FF17
CBU3 are never doing anymore new mainline FF games ever again
good morning barry
>systematically working his way through all the 15 critics
Gett'em Barry! But also post more D.Mons or I will tell everyone about what happened to 15s studio.
16 flopped
>On October 18, 1958, Tennis for Two was finished, marking the start of video games. The day after FFXVI entered production.
>The production cost was so high that Square Enix had to sell off China to Vietnam just to be able to fund it.
>Releasing with a critical score of negative 1 Ocarina of Time, Yoshida had to make a press statement saying "ror rmao even"
once ffxvi releases on PC all of you morons will say he is a god
>he
FF was in the shitter since the Lightning saga.
I don't know how to feel about him. He saved ff14 and then ran it into the ground with corporate greed ravaging his butthole. I can't believe ff16 felt so much like xiv msq
Maybe he was mad at how everyone sucked and complained about how hard the game was in heavensward and then u-turned the ship so that anyone and their dad of light could play it
Its not like it was even hard to play before. Just hardER than it currently is. It was a refuge for wow burnouts. Now it's just another content creator game that everyone plays for 1 month and 100 girls minimum streaming on twitch at all times
xiv is in a weird spot where hard content is the hardest it's ever been and anything below savage is so comically easy there's virtually no fail state anymore
what this means is that whenever you're not slamming your head against the wall progging with your static you're always on the verge of falling asleep and it's just total horseshit overall
Just post the D.Mons Barry. Not the traced 15 fanart shit. I want actual OC Barrymons.
I love when people say they can’t stand turn based games because it means I know they are media illiterate and not to listen to their opinions
If you NEED to mash buttons to get your dopamine you are a fricking idiot plain and simple
>If you NEED to mash buttons to get your dopamine you are a fricking idiot plain and simple
Wait, are you for or against turn based?
My problem with FF16 is not that it is not turn-based, but it is not even an RPG.
You can do action combat but with good RPG customization, 16 has nothing. Weapon upgrade is just a straight line.
15 plateau'd on 10m there has no reports ever since and is always on sale everywhere
ff7 hasnt had an update since 5m because it platuead
The problem was never turn-based combat. It was japanese turn based. JRPGs barely went past the original DQ and FF formula, and after you play a few of them, it gets stale really fast.
Wait, BG3 is a PS5 exclusive? I hadn't heard about that!
FFXV did so much damage to the brand I blame it for everything
XV actually saved FF
16 damaged the brand and so did 14
irreparably
FF14 was the first FF since FF10 that has been actually enjoyed as a FF game. If you want to talk 1.0 sure but 2.0 onwards(Shadowbringers esp) did more for the franchise than anything FFXV ever did
How on earth did that dogshit save FF? People fricking hate the game
No it isn't
Bazzy stop arguing about 15 and sketch me so D.Mons. Don't draw it like that little Horatio homosexual though.
I have literally graduated high school, graduated college, gotten married, and bought a house and during that entire time this same homosexual has been posting about FFXV
Wild
Seems like you wasted your life when you could have been arguing about FFXV on the internet. For shame anon
No you havn't
you've been here shilling yoshitpiss all this time while coping over ff16 flopping
15 is better than 16 yes
why are you projecting?
Anything is better than FF15. Any of the FF13 trilogy is better than FF15 if you really want a comparison to how shit FF15 is
15 is better than any ff since the ps1 era
ff16 is the worst game ever made
>FF 13 Versus > FF 15
Cope Barry
15s user score on par with World of Final Fantasy. You can actually die in WoFF that's why journalist didn't like it, plus they are 15 fans with sock puppet accounts.
I know I'm going to regret asking, but what's a true userscore?
C'mon Barry. You look at her in the breasts and tell me she doesn't deserve bigger. You can fix this with a quick Barrymons sketch.
That looks like shit, you cant even draw as well as barry lmao.
Except nothing is exploding or being thrown as a regular cast
You toss the flask literally every single time you do an aimed throw.
I know, I'm trying to get Barry-sama (you) to school me.
It's partially your fault for making me mad and giving them small breasts. You owe me.
he didn't direct 16
>FF17 is being given to Ishikawa
>FF17 again being given to Yoship
How are you feeling Barry? Your precious Tabata ran away/got fired after FF15. Following the embarrassment of it's release all new FF games have been given to Yoship due to the success of FF14 and how much money it makes SE
Don't forget the studio Tabata founded (Luminous) was killed. I would sudoku if I was Tabata.
jesus frick I don't even care too hard about FF it's fine. XIV was fun but am unsubbed, XV was a 7, XVI was a little better at an 8, but had some flaws too. But to shill your game for this long it's fricking crazy.
In the time you've been posting about FFXV all day. I went from KHV unemployed homosexual, to getting a job, becoming financially independent, a GF then Wife, got divorced, went through kidney failure, received a transplant 3 years later, and now have a gf again.
It really wasn't that good man.
FFXVI has flaws and issues but i love the game it self.
I don't care about sales though. This game need to be fixed at some parts. Yoshi-P will deliever.
When are you c**ts going to learn that producers don't make games.
Their job is to produce a product in a specific time, and under a specific amount.
Nothing else is their concern, including the quality of the product itself - that's all on the director.
>ps5 exclusive dmc clone with 0 rpg elements
How is XVI an FF game?
It honestly feels more like a spin-off title, akin to SoP or WoFF.
Barry is ironically the biggest reason why there's no positive discussion about XV.
Even if you try to talk about the aspect you might have liked about it, if you so much as even remotely bring up a negative, this homosexual will shit up the thread immediately.
>I liked a lot things in XV, like the fishing and general exploration, but I didn't really like how easy a lot of it was
>"FFXV is the hardest game ever made, and way better than (insert game that no one was talking about)!"
Yeah that's why i rarely brings up positive things about XV in this board. Even though i like some aspects of it.
I hate they killed his waifu the moment after he finally meets her. Who thought this was a good idea
I feel so robbed until now.
Protect all you want and start every argument with moron and didn't play the game, the fact remains that luminous production as a singular division is DEAD. Got absorbed to CBU2? Not luminous by name. Tabata released a fricking paralympics game that got EOS'd, and the other employees that got booted off got no prospects after their not-HiFi Rush game (which is also funny cause that game mogged the frick out of Forspoken).
Luminous and Tabata are a laughing stock in this industry. Sales this and sales that, if there was no hype nor good sales report from its proceeding titles, you know full well that the trust has been broken.
You keep on and on talking everyone 14 and non-14 players are cultists. YOU WISH 15 HAS A CULT. You're not promoting 15, you're steering people away to try it with your approach.
Why was this ripped from the game and turned into a shit movie?
This was originally part of versus and would have been a far better opening act than pushing the car to the gas station
Remember when dirty Black folk in this board tried to compare that flop-niche-weeaboo-garbage game to mainstream games like ELDEN RING or ZELDA?
Reality check for you flop-niche-weeaboo-garbage gays, your flop game can't even beat BG3.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What an absolute fricking failure.
This is your karma for gloating for a year straight about how your flop-niche-weeaboo-garbage was going to beat mainstream games like Zelda and how it was going to save RPG.
You flop-niche-weeaboo-garbage gays asked for it.
Pathetic flop trash.
Don't bother, salesgays are always moronic.
It's funny how zeldagays acted as friends until ff16 sales came kek
Also glad to see you are still terrified of insulting Elden Ring
People insult Elden Ring all the time, the game is complete garbage.
I don't care about sales to be honest. FFbros even ignored all your other zelda games selling less than other FF games (those were the times you said sales didn't matter coveniently)
SoP and HFR mogged totk in every way for me for example
I hope FFXVII won't sell 15m or something because I don't want to see you homosexuals changing back to le allies bullshit again
Literally all I see totkgays talking are either zelda ass or sales. Some Midnagays warned me you schizos were unironically buying the same copies over and over
I think you are the least comfy fandom here
May just have to filter totk/zelda to filter the trash
Pokemongays mind their own business, but I swear Zelda and Mario gays are some kind of schizos bringing bad mood everywhere
Lel why did mods remove this? They really hate their schizos being exposed
You idiot you know that FFXVI that its not a "weaboo" game, theres nothing weaboo in the design of the characters.
Zelda TOTK its the one with "weaboo" designs and a fricking femboy anime character
Flop. Niche. Weeabo. Garbage.
Know your place Black folk
Fricking L O L
An ending fitting for a weaboo series
>I swear I'm not obsessed with YoshiP
>It's FFXIV that shit up the board
>It's not me who is seething daily at this man
>Me? No, never, can't be me seething at YoshiP for another month straight because he exists
I am in awe at how much one man broke nu-Ganker to the core.
I see more antiYoshida threads than ff14 threads kek. Usually I only see one FF14 thread but this schizo is obsessed
Not even Kojima haters were this bad
These people (or just Barry) i swear they are more obsessed to this man than his cultists.
T. Don't even like xiv as mmo
I don't even understand why you have to play both. Literally different games, plus ff14gays won't buy a PS5 nor actiongays will suddenly subscribe to a mmo. Genres are too fricking different
Though I hope they expand FF16 adding that continent and eikon
There are more better mmo games i have played than FFXIV by the way. FFXVI still have a chances to improve the game it self by fixing and adding more content in future.
Kind of amazing how this doesn't count as raiding/brigading/flooding/what have you.
He'll be redeemed once he finishes his application at Monolith Soft
>xenogays only care about the games being on nintendo only
Typical
ARPG's are low effort and clearly Squeenix has given up on making quality games. They are just as bad as Actiblizz now and only care about turning profit. FF16 was small brain flashy garbage for morons and they flopped because they've alienated their smaller audience for the larger one but failed to realize no normal person wants to play a final fantasy game.
Looking forward to Yoshi's "resignation"
Why would he. FF14 still gives money and the one who decides to make ff16 PS5 exclusive was the CEO
Or do you expect Nomura to be fired after most of his recent games bombing
Cant wait for the pc version and people saying it wasnt that bad alas death stranding