So...basically everything else works on Linux except Fortnite? And plenty of modern AAA-titles work better on Linux and old games are more supported on Linux than they are on Windows 11?
Why arent more people using Linux? Its free as in beer and free as in speech.
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very obvious performance increase on Linux vs Windows 11. Almost the difference of console and PC
Now let's see the Nvidia benchmarks.
so basically if you own AMD you use Linux and Nvidia you use Windows? Is this the stage we are in right now? Basically if you want more value for a buck you use Linux?
Anecdotally I had better nvidia performance when I switched to Linux a few years ago, but I was using a 2060Super, so your mileage may vary. I've since switched to a 6800XT but I can't imagine things have changed too much
my experience is that older Nvidia cards are very badly supported. Bleeding edge breaks as something as recent as Gtx 970
>so basically if you own AMD you use Linux and Nvidia you use Windows?
Basically. Nvidia drivers have gotten to be shit over the last few years on Linux. Every 4 months, an Nvidia driver update or kernel update (point release on LTS) breaks it. This is after 10 years of using Nvidia with almost no issues. I have zero issues with AMD cards outside of 5700XT in Linux. I use RX 560s on a few computers and a 6700XT on my gaming computer. My work computer had a 1050Ti and I had to change it because it made me "late" to work because Nvidia driver fricked up.
No, if you use Nvidia you still use Linux and then constantly complain on Nvidia's form every update when they break 10 more things.
Nvidia hates open source basically. Probably because their entire business model is built around misleading consumers like they did with tessellation, hairworks, gameworks, and now with RTX. They can't intentionally frick with performance in their drivers if they are open source.
NO shit nvidia hates open source because close source gives them the competitive economy edge.
Just look at AMD vs Nvidia stock as a good example.
You can either be righteous or you can be rich.Its very hard to do both.
Once NVK is done Linux will be very interestingfor people with Nvidia hardware
I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of performance uplift NVK will achieve over the next few years. The sooner the proprietary NVIDIA stack dies, the better.
shame it's only for rtx/16xx series and newer
his 5700XT seems to report using between 20-40 watts more in linux throughout the video.
an issue with amd windows drivers or just the monitoring software?
Probably drivers
RDNA1 was notoriously bad for overheating so they might have limited power on the driver by default
Might just be different temperature sensors being used. My 6900xt doesn't get too hot under load. It idles hots because of the memory clock though
Modding games is actually very easy now. The problem is modding steam games, because proton doesn't let you run an alternate exe, like a mod loader in a game prefix.
Use protontricks to execute the .exe files.
Here you go.
shader compiler is better on linux
allows the game to utilize more of the hardware
Is the same true for Elden Ring? It's about the only game I play these days
Elden Ring worked better on Linux on launch. As for today, it works perfectly on Linux
it's the same and you will have the same stutters
I've been having an issue on Windows where once every few hours the game will seize up and a half-second later snap back like I'm rubber-banded on 2007 dial-up. Stutters and whatever are irrelevant to me as long as this specific issue goes away.
I would never use No Bara because I am pro Bara
Gonna assume this is faked somehow because the dude's attitude in the comments is insane.
>his arguments are sound but I don't like his attitude
imagine being such a pussy
>Windows 10 Pro
what a liar
obviously it isnt gonna show Linux
>What doesn't work:
Multiplayer season pass live service slop
>What does work:
Everything else
>Why arent more people using Linux? Its free as in beer and free as in speech.
because after a week an automatic update will brick your system until you fix it. I really don't understand how you find linux and then a couple days later it's become your entire personality
last time my install broke was because i fricked it up and it was years ago
this isnt 2008 anymore
explain why after latest updates this week, LC_MESSAGES=C changes my system language entirely while DE thinks its using a different locale
This was an update thing that broke this stuff. I am doing that because I want terminal in English
how the frick am i supposed to know what's going on in your machine
so things break after updates after all. Nothing was changed and it works if I do it manually post-login
not on my machine
So you put LC_MESSAGES=C somewhere (?) because you want your terminal to use a different language to the rest of the OS? I swear, people who complain about Linux breaking are always doing weird shit that isn't even possible in Windows.
this has worked for months and this is a solution that people have recommended for years and LC_MESSAGES should work exactly like I want it to in this case
I put it in ~/.zshrc, using export
How do you launch KDE? Through a display manager or startx/startplasma on the console? If using a console, that's what I'd expect to happen. If using a display manager, I'd make sure LC_MESSAGES only gets set if it's an interactive shell.
Not sure how to do this in zsh because I don't use it, but maybe something like [[ -o interactive ]] && export LC_MESSAGES=C
>if using a display manager, I'd make sure LC_MESSAGES only gets set if it's an interactive shell.
>Not sure how to do this in zsh because I don't use it, but maybe something like [[ -o interactive ]] && export LC_MESSAGES=C
lets say this works...why would it stop working pretty randomly?
considering it only happened to you, you did something without knowing
t. arch with kde user
Not sure. Maybe some startup script changed from using /bin/sh to using your default shell, or something changed whether .zshrc gets sourced for login shells or not, or some startup program changed from clearing its environment, or using the systemd/dbus default environment to inheriting its environment.
Especially if you use Arch, you can't expect things like this to stay the same for backwards compatibility if the change was done to make something else work correctly. Setting LC_MESSAGES in .zshrc without checking if you're an interactive shell is definitely the wrong thing to do unless you really did want every program on your system to use English messages.
That's what you'd expect. LC_MESSAGES doesn't change the whole locale, just the language of text strings. To change the whole locale (incl. number formats, dates, etc.) you set LANG instead. Linux has always let you change parts of the locale independently.
>That's what you'd expect. LC_MESSAGES doesn't change the whole locale, just the language of text strings. To change the whole locale (incl. number formats, dates, etc.) you set LANG instead. Linux has always let you change parts of the locale independently.
yeah that is why I am using it this way. Its just odd that system thinks I am on a locale which I am not
One thing I did was installing and setting up zsh but I did it following Arch wiki and the installer and it didnt fix changing back to bash. That was pretty much the last possible time something could've happened
alright thx now I learned once again how the system works
# If not running interactively, don't do anything
[[ -o interactive ]] || return
putting this in zshrc basically fixes all the problems. This is in bashrc usually but for some reason I couldnt fix it previously by changing back
and just tried it and thx it worked but its pretty frustrating to solve it this way
also LC_MESSAGES never actually changed anything else. Everything I tried said the system is in different locale, not in English. It also introduced broken locales with dates showing correctly and months being shown in correct language in very specific cases
also once it just yeeted all my locales for whatever reason
I can't find anything about this problem. What distro? What DE? I never had this problem on Arch.
If the driver doesn't work it likely won't boot into GUI environment at all therefore you will be able to see what you type (you could anyway since the other TTYs don't use fancy gpu driver). IF an update would broke something the solution would be likely downgrade, but no one should have automatic update feature installed and enabled.
For modern stuff (anything after like 2004) the only extra step is to make a custom prefix with Lutris, the game should work without any problem and you don't even need any fancy script. Japanese games may require extra steps.
>I can't find anything about this problem. What distro? What DE? I never had this problem on Arch.
its basically the same problem as here
https://forums.rockylinux.org/t/locale-settings-doesnt-work-or-overrides/8558/3
Arch using KDE
>LC_MESSAGES=C
where did you set this, moron? depending on where you put it will determine what gets affected
>I set this environment variable that affects the language and now my language was affected!
the only time i had trouble with linux was when i was using a cheap chinese laptop (t. east european poorgay) and the drivers for the gpu, wifi and bluetooth were completely fricked. At some point I got tired of it randomly shitting itself and switched to windows. The color profile for the display was absolute ass too, making it look like crap. Another issue I remember was the display not turning off after closing the lid, battery life being fricked, etc. I was actually studying CS at uni back then but still running windows on it. But still that's not relevant in 2024 even if you buy the cheapest or the most obscure hardware on the market. And you can easily google your way out of any problem. You don't actually need to know anything aside from very basic stuff like
>this is a terminal, you can type shit in it and the computer runs some code
>have nvidia gpu to connect to my monitor
>automatic nvidia update/setting change
>now I have to troubleshoot why my screen is literally blank and I can't type anything
>need to do a bunch of fricked console commands without my screen working to fix it
shit like that is not fun when I just want to use my pc
but enough about windows
? I've been using the same Artix install for 6 years, never had it brick. How do you manage to brick an assumedly even easier distro?
>automatic update
What distro even defaults to automatic? Everything I've ever used has been manual. Why would you use Linux only to voluntarily subject yourself to one of the biggest pains of Windows? Why would you go out of your way to set that up but not set up snapshots so your shit can't get fricked?
I think Ubuntu might default to automatic. It sucks because otherwise it would be the ideal beginner distro to recommend to people, but it just has a few moronic defaults like that.
unless they changed something in the past few years, they only had an automatic reminder but not an automatic download & install
It might just have been "security" upgrades
tbh security updates being set to auto ain't bad. I do it on high availability production servers, and its the same upstream
wtf someone else is even aware of awesomewm? I thought I was the last boomer still on it. Easily the best tiling wm; frick wayland
I dont know about that case specifically, but a lot of devs horribly botch and half-ass their Linux releases. CDPR pissed all over their Witcher 2 release, rightfully got backlash for it, and have been pretty bitterly anti-Linux ever since (for example)
Based fellow Awesome bros.
A default install of Ubuntu has no automatic updates, stop telling lies
>why would you want automatic updates dummy? why would you trust linux to actually work when it says it will you should have changed the default settings
do you see how the words being written by your fingers, onto your keyboard and lastly projected to the screen, are fricking moronic? you understand that, yes? Why should I be expected to know that one of the most basic features in any OS just flat out doesn't work?
And what's the brilliant, linux user alternative? not installing updates? If I didn't install updates and there was a problem, it would be
>Why didn't you install updates? You were just expecting your OS to function without vital drivers?
Name the distro that defaults to both automatic updates and also no snapshots.
Unlike windows, you can use linux while it is updating, like an OS made after 2000 should do.
Dont windows autists delay updates for years then complain when it bricks their system by force updating all at once? Kek.
I've been using Linux for five years and that hasn't happened yet despite regularly installing updates (which aren't automatic by the way).
I've been using KDE-unstable and i've had the system break on my 2 times. One time I could not figure out how to fix it in chroot so I had to do a complete reinstall.
You're talking about Windows anon.
>all these linux tards defending this
at some point you have to realise anyone who uses linux is a cave troglodyte who cannot be reasoned with.
they live in a different reality where inconvenience is just a fun challenge for them to overcome.
accordingly you shouldn't even waste your fingers tapping a response to whatever moronic drivel they sputter out with their flabby sausage fingers.
I'm convinced linuxtroons are the same basedcucks who play videogames in """nightmare""" difficulty because they think it's """"fun"""" instead of us easychads who just enjoy the story.
Anyone still using Windows in 2024 is a consolegay that fell for Le Master Race reddit memes
why is leon smoking the mass effect endings?
>hurr durr, look at me I have an IQ of an african national
0/10 apply yourself the next time
>automatic update
>linux
>automatic updates
tell me you don't know what you're talking about without telling me you don't know what you're talking about
>because after a week an automatic update will brick your system until you fix it.
works on my machine
I guess you haven't dealt with the Microsoft store glitching out and installing a 60gb game 200 times then.
I don't know why you people get so seething mad about this.
Don't want to use Linux? Don't install Linux. I hope this helps.
>BUT, BUT THE LINUX USERS ALWAYS TALK ABOUT LINUX, MUH vegan ANALOGY
You actively clicked on a Linux thread.
>I really don't understand how you find linux and then a couple days later it's become your entire personality
they're low self esteem losers with no friends and no life, they'll use the dumbest shit to pretend they're special and be part of a community even when all they're achieving is making their own lives worse, same with vegans but at least vegans aren't virgins locked in their rooms trooning out
That’s true, so why are Windows users and the Microsoft defense force like that though?
just don't update?
i've got one single debian installation for last 10 years or so, and other than debian sid adventure episode (extremely unstable repo where new stuff just gets thrown right in without any mercy for the user) I can't think of any situations where system upgrade on its own would cause any issues. I've been fricking myself over a lot, but that's all consequences of my own actions
on that note, shit sure can be funny
>caused some package shitshow by forcing package downgrades so some program would work instead of using flatpaks or other docker things because clearly i was too stupid back then
>one of downgrades caused some base low level crypto library to take a shit
>this library is responsible for system authentication
>suddenly can't use sudo
>hm
>restart pc, login password
>refused
>login password
>refused
>locked myself out of entire system and every possible low-level recovery including rescue mode because system has no way to authenticate my password
chroot from live-cd on pendrive, package reinstall, all good, 5min fix. but still, it's pretty funny how bad linux lets you frick yourself over, and in that regard, it's absolutely not for incompetent people who can't accept responsibility for their own actions
>I really don't understand how you find linux and then a couple days later it's become your entire personality
Seriously, nobody fricking cares.
>automatic update
There are no automatic updates, and I've never had an update break anything. I only swapped back to linux because windows 10 did exactly that (automatically updated and then my PC would freeze until I restart). Honestly dont care about fanboying one side or the other, don't even care about microsoft spying on me, but I've seen lots of windowsgays complain about this recently so microsoft clearly dropped the ball by hiring too many indians or something.
>after a week an automatic update will brick your system until you fix it
What the frick. None of that EVER happened to me.
Neither the "automatic update" part, nor the "brick the system" part.
You're uneducated and a troll.
I know this is b8 but I'll reply anyway. I can't think of a single distro that has auto-updates, and I also can't think of one that badgers you constantly about updating like windows does. I've never had to go out of my way to prevent updates, and I've distro-hopped dozens of times. Also, the chances of your shit getting fricked by an update are virtually 0 unless you're using a bleeding-edge rolling release, are new, and never read info on updates. Shit like Debian, Ubuntu, mint, Fedora, and openSUSE is, if anything, far safer than windows since you have complete control over what garbage gets installed on your computer.
He probably set up a cronjob that updates his system daily.
Anyone who has at least HEARD of cronjobs wouldn't write like such a moron
But linux becoming an entire personality is reality for autists ITT, and the part about his system bricking is probably an exaggeration of updates needing manual intervention until he figured it out.
It reads like a poor larp and I have the niggling feeling you're the same poster. Apply yourself
It's reality that you're denying. I just wanted personal computing, but instead I got trannies such as yourself lying about their mental illness because they couldn't handle the fact of poor cursor compositing on linux.
>the fact of poor cursor compositing on linux.
I left this thread about 3.5 hours ago and just came back, and I can't believe you're still shitting blood over this.
Literally just use Windows. An operating system is just a tool, so use the one that does what you want and works how you like.
Being mad about Linux should not be your sole purpose in life.
>you're still shitting blood over this.
How is posting homosexual thing that microsoft does, and crying over the code of conduct me crying?
>An operating system is just a tool, so use the one that does what you want and works how you like.
Is that why you started with the copes, and later moved onto crying about pozzed microsoft while surrounded by trannies?
>Being mad about Linux should not be your sole purpose in life.
Linux is not your personality and you shouldn't be offended when someone points out your Hypocrisy or lies about certain features.
>The mask falls off
Linux shills are such slimy homosexuals, it's unreal.
>Is that why you started with the copes, and later moved onto crying about pozzed microsoft while surrounded by trannies?
Ganker isn't one person and I already told you I had left the thread for 3.5 hours prior to
. My last post to you before that was
.
Take meds perhaps.
Oh so it was other gays getting offended by a fricking cursor pointer? is such a minor issue that you claimed was a nonissue really all it takes for all linuxgays to collectively lose their minds.
Don't know, don't care. It's not my job to read the past 3.5 hours of this thread to figure out what you're ranting about.
Good luck with your mouse cursor.
>don't care
All I asked was if a feature that I wanted existed, but instead I got homosexuals like yourself saying that it doesn't need to exist because you move it to a different part of the screen. Is typing no harder than not being a disingenuous homosexual that talks in circles with advanced mental gymnastics.
I'm actually the one who just didn't understand what you wanted the cursor to do until you explained it, at which point I simply admitted that I didn't know how to make that happen on Linux because I never wanted that feature, to your apparent disbelief.
Like I said, use Windows if it does what you want.
The funniest part is it's all because the XOR color inversion is patented
Finally an answer after 450 posts.
No that's what you gays do with your pot kettle operating system ad hominems, and immediately get defensive because of cognitive dissonance when someone points it out. It's always about israeliterosoft.
The windows shills are mostly 3rd worlders and poos specifically who work at call centers for Microsoft.
it should be abundantly clear by now that he doesn't actually care about trannies, if he did, he wouldn't be able to use any operating systems. It's just an excuse to shit up the thread by using the natural response of disgust anyone normal has towards troons.
mods that require another thing to be running previously to hook to it are the most annoying ones. You could follow this even if you don't have a deck https://gamebanana.com/tuts/15587 or do like
said and use tinker launch. The inject command is what you should need, you'd just point the custom command to the mod and it'll run after the game. Pic related is the "game settings" button in tinker launcher.
>the troony poster is the cursor gay
lmao
How are you gonna stop the troony suicide, sister?
loonixgays are like nintendo fans, they will cherrypick the best of loonix but hide the worst.
STFU reggiN
My grandma runs Linux because I installed Ubuntu on her laptop and she has an uptime of a few 100 days. Last time I checked it was at around 400-something. You're fricking moronic.
buy an ad
this. the working man uses windows because his time is valuable. I don't have time to spend fixing ever issue that comes up
also what should I made my sudowoodo
You should name him KDE Plasma after your DE
done
my arch install is 3 years old btw
My gentoo install is nine years old, this is a skill issue
My hobby is video games, not operating systems.
hey Troonix bros, how do you pirate in Loonix? Is it the same as Windows?
Add the exe as a non-steam game into Steam and boot it with the Steam Proton compatibility layer.
This doesn't work for me. I've been using wine for a while and since I've installed lutris also, all the work is done for me. Been playing pirated games without steam on wine for over a year now.
i also use lutris but what do you mean the steam route doesn't work? remember to also put the steam id in the game folder so that proton uses game specific fixes for that game.
anyway, none of this matters since we're getting non steam bound proton now.
>anyway, none of this matters since we're getting non steam bound proton now.
wait what when where how why
He's probably referring to this (and related projects):
https://github.com/Open-Wine-Components/ULWGL-launcher
Seems like a big deal but I'm not going to pretend to understand it. Also, I can't say I know of a game that actually needs the "Steam Linux Runtime/Steam Runtime Tools" they've borrowed from Steam, but a lot of my games are Steam games, which means I haven't run them outside of Steam and thus I wouldn't know whether using Steam to run them actually made a difference.
huh
interesting
little concerned about the steam runtime part since i assumed that was the steam API provider (and thus it wouldn't work for pirated games (i've actually had issues running even some gog games through steam since a couple of them seem to load the steam runtime if they detect it)) but maybe steam_runtime_sniper or whatever is just like support code
i think it's open source somewhere though so maybe not
When I put the exe file in steam, it doesn't work for me. I don't know why.
>remember to also put the steam id in the game folder
How would I go about doing that?
works the same as in Windows except you need to launch the installer using Steam/Lutris/Heroic etc. so it uses wine. Then once you are done you just find the exe and launch it through Steam/Lutris/Heroic etc
so basically pirating in Linux is the same but you need exactly two new steps that are just putting them on game launchers
Fitgirl and stuff works like this as well
yes, there are loonix versions of games on rutracker
you can also install GoG packages very easily using wine
or just run the pirated installer through wine and paste the crack in the wine prefix
some games work best using the Steam version of wine and integration, so there is a bigger incentive to not pirate and kneel to DRM, but you don't have to
If a game works better with the Steam version of Wine (Proton,) you can pirate it and add it to the Steam launcher as a non-Steam game.
I figured most of the witchcraft proton does require it to know which game it's running to apply unique settings.
Proton actually has a bunch of Windows features that mainline Wine doesn't have yet. It's like a bleeding-edge Wine.
I see, I'll try it if I ever run into trouble with running a game in the future.
linux is free if your time is worthless
t. MCSE drone.
>browses Ganker to post old bait
Microsoft pays you, huh? I use their shit if they pay me to.
does the game pass work with troonix?
I don't play many games, but the ones I've tried to run on linux have worked.
With one exception, I could not get Cyberpunk 2077 (GoG version) to work on release and never tried later.
Make what you will of my experience.
List of games I can think of now that worked in no particular order.
>Dark Souls 1-3
>Hearts of Iron + mods
>Europa Universalis + mods
>Baldurs Gate 3
>Hollow Knight
>Rain World
>Noita
>Path of Exile
>Rimworld
>Book of Hours
>Lobotomy Corporation
.t fedoragay
Cyberpunk has some issues if you are on older nvidia cards. It took them 6 months to fix it crashing on turing GPUs when CDPR released the 1.63 patch. Switched to AyyyyMD a while ago so I can't comment on the current state of things, but it still has issues launching on 1000 series cards as far as I know.
>ask help support on noobara and protondb troonycord
>they figured out me trying to run pirated game
>banned
Troonix, not even once, lmao. Back to windows with my based thirdie bro
Why would any sane white male risk getting implicated in crime for a moronic shitskin that can't into cracked games?
I haven't gotten around to installing it. Got a spare ssd I want to dual boot from. Maybe next weekend.
have you chosen distro and DE?
Arch, haven't done enough research to decide on a DE yet.
What sort of things do you want out of your desktop? Maybe I could help?
Mostly video games and some software development. Maybe a daily driver if my ancient macbook ever breaks down.
Using wsl has solved a lot of my annoyance for the windows command but my old build had slower sata ssd that I'd planned on installing Linux to and plugging into my new build.
Well yeah silly I know you're probably going to DO things on your computer, but how would you want your base desktop to be like, I suppose since you've used Macs before maybe you could use Gnome, since it's Macish by default. Could use KDE if you want too, since you can set it up to be Mac like, but it's more Windowzy by default.
Oh, I see, hadn't occurred to me since visuals aren't a concern for me as long as it's mostly working and doesn't bury frequently used settings deep in slow-loading menus. I figure I'll get used to whatever I switch to eventually regardless of the layout. Thanks for the suggestions, I'll take a look at them.
>doesn't bury frequently used settings deep in slow-loading menus
avoid gnome
avoid gnome, it's old and buggy by now. KDE so far is the one that treated me the best. xcfe also has some neat tools, but kde probably has the better default software suite on top of having the best amount of customization. it starts windows like but you can make it do anything you want basically, i made mine kinda mac-like but still different.
dwm
Frick you. i3 and Awesome are fricking great! also i3 isn't a DE.
as for Distro, Arch.
If you're completely new to Linux and you want "just weeks", Nobara.
If you know what you want Arch.
If you know what you want and want piss easy maintenance and backups, NixOS.
if you are dualbooting, keep the installations on separate drives. Remove the other drive when you are using the other OS and vice versa. Disable fast boot, without these things Windows might break your OS
Also dont use Windows partitions on Linux so dont play stuff that you have installed on a Windows Drive on Linux
Are they really that mutually destructive? I don't think this is worth unscrewing and screwing my drive back in every time I switch.
nta but after I finally migrated to linux as my daily driver I left a windows partition on the same drive for my wife to do her college homework which her homosexual teachers insisted she had to use all this proprietary shit, not even microsoft office but like weird shit.
Anyway, I dont touch windows for quite a while, finally we boot into it and windows is "forcing" an update on me, I dont wanna turn it off during this process and frick everything up so it updates, wife does her windows homework badabing badaboom.
I go to boot back into linux and motherfrickinf windows has not only reenabled secureboot and reset a bunch of shit on my bios, it also resized its own partition(more accurately it resized itself and then made a bunch of system reserved partitions) and fricking broke my linux install.
because of that I only run windows in a VM and only as absolutely necessary./blog
there is a reason why people dont like dualbooting because its a pain. I just stopped dualbooting in a week or two. If you are gonna do it then you are gonna get used to not switch unless you need to
>No cheat engine (with speed hacks) equivalent
>No BlueStacks equivalent
Linux fricking sucks
>cheat engine
It literally works in wine.
>bluestacks
Waydroid or the android studio emulator.
Proton and wine-staging are both unstable patch sets on top of wine. A lot of that stuff might never be merged because wine is really built for corporate clients using crossover, that need strict spec compliance.
>BlueStacks equivalent
Windows doesnt that either anymore since bluestacks got bought out by a chinese crypto scam company
>with speed hacks
YWNNAW
I misread that as YWNWAW and thought you meant you will never Wee Ma Way
You WIll Never Nail A Woman
I don't care
The lion sleeps tonight
>no cheat engine
Skill issue, it works in WINE and there's also several native alternatives
>no bluestacks
Waydroid is 10x better and I don't know why you'd willingly opt to use a shitty proprietary chink VM.
>several native alternatives
And the alternatives are almost never drop-in replacements, but just poorly written imitations.
So run it in WINE instead of complaining, you stupid fricking b***h.
Pros of Linux
>Highly customizable
>No spyware, telemetry, or viruses (exists but are rare)
>99% of updates don't require a reboot
>Can update all installed programs in one place
>Games can run better or worse on Linux depending on the title.
>Full ownership of the OS, no ads, and unwanted features that keep reinstalling themself on Windows like Microsoft Edge.
Cons:
>95% of games work with proton. 4% may need additional tinkering to work, and 1% won't work no matter what.
>Most games with kernel-level anti-cheat won't work.
>Modding games is possible but kind of a hassle to get working in some titles.
>No HDR support
>A lot of problems you run into are fixed with the terminal, with no intuitive GUI solutions making you google commands to copy/paste
Been using Linux Mint for 2 years and these are my thoughts so far, would still recommend either having a Windows partition or installed on another HDD just in case.
>Most games with kernel-level anti-cheat won't work.
This is not a con. Refusing to grant a third party unlimited access to your entire system is most assuredly a "pro."
The insulting thing is they don't even prevent cheaters, only Valorant has managed to do so and that's because they spend heaps of money and resources on keeping their anti-cheat effective.
>tarkov devs and battleeye: were working on linux support, we just have to be careful because we dont want any cheaters
>meanwhile their game.....
>only Valorant has
They actually haven't
Also no gamepass
Also sometimes, things just stop working.
There are minor issues some/all distros have
Cut it already with this troonix shit.
sir
>AMD GPU
That's because AMD drivers for Windows are shit
what's a good linux the reason i don't use it is because switching over seems hard
Linux Mint for Windows similiarties and ease of use
Thinking of dual installing some linux distro on my new pc to test it out for games
Can having two OS's installed cause problems?
Yes but just be aware that if it's on the same physical drive, Windows may decide to randomly nuke the Linux bootloader. This is fixable with a boot-repair usb in like 2 minutes but it can happen.
Windows must be installed first otherwise it doesn't work.
There usually are no issues.
>seeing your files from either OS
If you use disk encryption the OS that encrypts the disks will not be visible from the other (unless you decrypt them obviously).
Not sure if the data on Linux will be visible from Windows by default or if requires installing something.
Linux sees Windows disks fine.
>Not sure if the data on Linux will be visible from Windows
Windows has no ext4 support. There's apparently a workaround involving WSL, but I've never tried it.
but free speech is a myth
>everything works, except "competitive" Riot / Blizzard slop
tbqh sounds like a good proposition tbh
I mean, Overwatch works and thats the most competitive game they got. Its the Activision slop that doesnt work
I feel sorry for all the idiots who fall into the linux bait. One of the biggest trolls on Ganker right now, congrats to the discord server who works hard for this to happen.
Take your meds
I fricking wish everything worked on Linux, but it doesn't.
>only shitty live service multiplayer games dont work on Linux
Again false.
Linux definitely made leaps and bounds from from a decade ago and especially since proton (5ish years ago?) but there are still plenty of games that dont work.
Amusingly the most issues I had on Linux were with Linux native games.
this. in the earliest days of proton I installed dying light(trash) and thought "well if this is the windows version, surely the native version would run even better!" it did not
God I remember when Ark first launched. The Linux version was far worse than the original Switch version.
its funny how that works. Wonder whats the reason behind it though
OpenGL being dogshit back in the day
Outdated or missing libraries, which is why flatpaks took off.
Basically if its non-indie and they didnt outsource it to someone who knows what they're doing (like Feral Interactive), its almost certainly gonna be a total wash. Its probably more the consolidation of game engines that has made it a bit better, than it is
. OpenGL wasn't that bad, it was just different. Devs didnt give a shit and had incentives to be deep into DirectX (aka non-portable)
Dont fricking get me started on Linux native games.
The "Linux native" version of Xenonuats 1 is a fricking wine wrapped version of the Windows version and is horribly out of dated because developer gave up on linux and just told the community to use wine. this is despite Linux port being a kickstarter stretch goal for the game that they achieved.
Pretty much all of Feral interactive's Linux ports are poorly optimized you get better double digit performance uplift by running the Windows version in wine instead.
more often than not its a random library thats missing or outdated. easiest workaround is to use the linux runtime libs in steam compatibility options.
>libs
yeah no sorry, Im a trumo supporter
this. i ran
find ./ -name "*lib*" -exec rm -rf {}
to delete ALL libcuck bullshit from my pc and it broke linux. Linux is so pozzed it won't even run without lib wokeness
>not find and replacing every instance of "Lib" with "Based"
>Yes do as I say
Oh, I didn't know that was a thing. I just symlinked the missing libraries to the folder.
New Linux native games are a dream. Native games older than approximately the Proton era range from "Okay, it expected to pack certain libs in or certain packaging, do a little configuring" to "This is a massive shitshow that has a shitty WINE wrapper from 10 years ago built into it ". All of it is fixable but its mostly age rather than native Linux exactly, and back in those days you kludged anything into working as nobody would give you the time of day for actual Linux support
>This is a massive shitshow that has a shitty WINE wrapper from 10 years ago built into it
which is of course the problem, the game isn't actually native, it's a wrapper
truly native ports run much better than their windows counterparts (because you can use sdl12-compat, padsp, etc to essentially trick the game into using modern APIs)
i hope distros can start shipping dxvk-native as a library eventually, that would get rid of 99% of the problems with lazy ports
in my experience the only games that don't work on linux are games designed specifically to not work on it, like fortnite
Literal decades of FUD from the multi-billion dollar corporations of the tech industry who stand to lose, well, billions of dollars in revenue annually if higher-quality (and less expensive) software was allowed to replace their garbage. Reminder Microsoft spent an untold fortune over a decade trying to convince people that Linux was trash *and* that they'd sue anyone who used it for patent infringement, funded SCO Group to actually sue people to scare them off Linux, and deliberately modified the various Windows installers to intentionally break detected Linux installations when people tried to install Windows for dual-boot. They spent billions ensuring colleges included Microsoft-specific training, i.e. "MCSE," which explicitly teaches students the same FUD they spread against Linux for decades. Not to mention strong-arming OEMs to scare them off bundling Linux with their PCs instead of Windows.
And that's just the shit one company pulled. Oracle, IBM, Nvidia and Apple were other big names that all engaged in that horseshit.
The end result is a lost decade of productive work on a superior platform because people were manipulated into hating or fearing it.
>why arent more people using linux
because were full. Linux is a dogshit OS thats too hard to use and isnt viable for gaming, also you arent smart enough to use it
Im on arch btw and doing a faith build in elden ring
There's a proton EAC compat layer now so the list of things that don't work grows even smaller now
Pajeets HATE this
https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown
>install linux mint
>scrollwheel only moves 3 lines
>open mouse settings
>no option to change number of lines scrolled
>start googling
>find some obscure fix on the ubuntu forums
>copy code into terminal
>doesn't work
>spend hours trying to fix the code by googling the error
>eventually make it work and now I can change the setting through the terminal
>restart my pc later
>get system error right after booting up
>try to roll back the changes
>system won't boot up anymore
>install windows
>pic related
OHNONONO LINUX BROS! I DONT FEEL SO GOOD NOT LIKE THI- oh.
1. that didn't work on my machine.
2.
understandable, Linux is shitty, windows is way better! stay there please
will do!
linus is a gay and stallman is a pedo, that wont stop me from using dristros neither moron can install on their own.
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>April 2nd
NANI?!
WOMM
Linux Mint is a trap. Any other distro + KDE Plasma is a better Windows alternative.
Soinux users are the evangecucks of the computer world. Insufferable, cultish, AND moronic. Faark off somewhere else with your non-functional, backdoored, windows-dependent, TRASH.
GO THE FRICK BACK, NOW.
>Soinux users are the evangecucks of the computer world
Wangblows users are the ones that come into Linux threads to shill their nonfunctional OS
>"here's my headcannon that i made with the usual lintrannies falseflagging as pajeets shilling for Microsoft! Trust me, it is totally legit!"
i said
GO
THE
FRICK
BACK
TO
YOUR
CONTAINMENT
BOARD
NOW
Wrong board
YOU
DON'T
PLAY
VIDEO
GAMES
Black person
>Ganker
>linux
kek. modern Ganker is full of winjeets and mobilegays. there are unironically more linux users here than there.
a lot of Ganker users really miss the forest for the trees and on an average nonlinux thread it usually goes like this
>should I install [distro]
>No way, why would I use someone elses distro, better to just make your own
>have you made your own distro?
>no, thats way too much work and I dont have time for that
>oh, so which distro do you use?
>oh me, I use Windows.
Its the same annoying go nowhere conversation as an arch forum troubleshooting post thay doesnt reveal the user is actually on manjaro and not vanilla arch til page 13
good point. Updating to the win13 beta rn
>Faark off
Its okay kid, you can swear on the adult board
best linux game is zombie panic
All Linux still needs and the only reason I keep a windows install around is proper VR support. Once that is smoothed out I can finally forget about winblows entirely.
Barely anything works on linux. Don't trust protondb
Games need specific setup in easy anticheat thingy to run well under linux, which renders some games unplayable. For example, i can't play Pavlov VR on linux, but at the same time VRChat that uses same EAC runs just fine. I imagine many other games with anticheats won't run well on linux.
As for raw ability to make vidya run, proton is beyond insane compared to anything loonix had 10 years ago. Nearly every game runs out of the box, you can play VR, you can run RTX, you name it.
Why does my Pop install say Navi32 instead of my card name rx 7800 xt? I thought Pop had AMD drivers baked in?
Stop trying to make linux gaming happen, it's not gonna happen
Stop trying to shill Windows, it’s not gonna happen.
Already happened.
>muh −%
Linux usage among English-language Steam users has never been higher.
>inb4 "nooo it's just Steam Deck it doesn't count"
>another way to look at it
this is already indicating cope
>lies about it being 4% when the official chart shows it below 2%
>cuts off 95.5% of the chart and hides windows to hide how hard linux is getting mogged
>wowee it's grown twice as big
going from 1 loser to 2 losers is not a victory
in conclusion, linux is a stagnated failure and the fact that you have to reach and cope so hard proves that even you shills have set the bar on the ground because you know it's not going anywhere
Good morning Rajeet! How is the call center today? Did anyone redeem their Amazon cards for you yet?
What's "cope" is going "muh −%" when it actually went up for users who speak the language used on this board.
>>lies about it being 4% when the official chart shows it below 2%
There's no lie. It's about 4% of English-language users and about 2% overall.
>>cuts off 95.5% of the chart
Now you're crying that the range of the Y axis wasn't chosen to make the graph unreadable? LOL
windows
The point of the graph is to compare "Linux, English Only" to "Linux Overall". Nothing is hidden. The site hosting that graph does allow lines to be hidden by clicking the corresponding items in the legend, but Windows was never on that graph.
it's grown twice as big
Yes. I don't need you an a billion other idiots to install Linux btw
The level of stupidity amongst modern NPCs is staggering. I have a family member with a learning disability who installed and used Mint on a daily basis with no issues at all. Yet, there are supposedly morons on this very board with (supposedly) wt least average intelligence who can’t install an OS and use it without breaking something or fricking something up because they suddenly believe their hackers.
We really do need a virus or something to clean house and cull the herd by about 50%. Once the stupid people are gone, things will be a lot better for the rest of us.
Here’s the real break down of the posting ITT
>Windows Defense Force
-Edgy teenagers trying to be edgy
-3rd Worlders new to the internet, working at a Microsoft call center.
-Poor 3rd Worlders
-Snoys trying to fuel a flame war
-Literal morons
>Linux Defense Force
-Literal Chads
-Above average IQ
-Based and real
There. It’s been settled!
The average schoolkid is growing up using Chromebooks or Macs
Windows market share is steadily declining and is seen by the average person as an OS for boomers and smelly gamers
Boomers are dying off and Linux gaming is already viable and constantly improving
Microsoft is living on borrowed time inshallah
This is true. Add to that l, the fact the average NPC doesn’t even use a PC outside of work/school anymore as they can and do, do everything they want on their homosexual phones and iTrannies.
This is also part of the motivation of making Shitdows 12 subscription based, to offset the lost sales of full licenses.
>seen by the average person as an OS for boomers and smelly gamers
Worse than that, it's seen as the OS that never quite works right. If it were just a boomer/gamer stigma it might have a chance of recovery but even boomers and gamers can barely stand the thing.
>Why arent more people using Linux?
because they don't wanna bother installing a whole new operating system + reinstalling the old one again if it's not to their liking. i dont blame them.
i said "frick it" and tried after getting a brand new machine. then i wanted out because i was overwhelemed and it seemed "complicated" alas, i was also too lazy to do that. most people stop here and go back to winblows. in my case i realized i was just being a little b***h and it's not hard at all, just need to get used to a few differences.
At least you’re honest
you can tell when the anti-Linux squad is regrouping on Discord because the thread gets quiet
Works on my machine
Let's say I have arch, and I want to set up a user session to run Steam in Big Picture and skip launching KDE and only rely on gamescope.
How exactly would I go about that?
I am kind of competent but mostly dumb.
gamescope-session-steam-git on the AUR
Hm, thanks fellas. These instructions seem pretty instructiony.
I should be able to just use steam to log out of the session, right?
Try
>sudo dnf KYS
isn't dnf for red hat based distributions?
yes
>Red Hat's package manager is called Duke Nukem Forever
based and cringe
The way my Kodi setup works, when Kodi dies/is closed it goes back to the login screen, I imagine Steam would work the same.
yes
Something like this maybe https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Steam#Big_Picture_Mode_without_a_window_manager
If you use a login manager with a session selector you can probably make a login file that does that. On my HTPC I have SDDM setup to load directly into Kodi with no WM or DE.
Let me guess, you need more?
people are too used to windows. they're too old to care about relearning another operating system, even if you have distros out there that mimic the look and feel of windows closely. the only reason linux is my daily driver is because that's all we used at university for my computer science courses, so i'm more comfortable using it over windows at this point
Well no, the issue is that "by default" computers come with windows and like 98% of people don't actually make a decision about what operating system they use.
This includes people that build PCs.
It's not just that they're too used to windows it's that when people buy a normal computer it comes loaded up with windows. Microsoft has nearly full control over the market unless you go apple which is it's own bag of shit. Normalgays and especially zoomers barely now how to use a computer, they're not going to install a new os, no matter how shitty windows gets, which is why microsoft knows they can get away with nearly anything and windows only keeps getting worse.
>they're too old to care about relearning another operating system
This has been always a meme argument. There's nothing to learn for most people who only use computers for browsing the internet, vidya and basic office work
WHY am I so based????
>poop os
works on my machine, Chud. Run tons of games, it's stable AF (which is way more than I can say for your mental health), and a sweet OS.
>NOOO YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO LIKE AN OS THAT LINUS KEK TIPS BROKE ON PURPOSE BECAUSE HE HATES LINUX AND HIS AUDIENCE OF 12 YEAR OLDS HATE TOO
for me it's debian
everything else is just a trend, debian is forever
unstable? Anything else might be pain since you are gonna wait for ever for anything new
>So...basically everything else works on Linux except audio and cutscenes?
FTFY, OP.
>NOOO MUH SHITTY INDY GAMES THAT NO ONE BUT ME AND 3 OTHER moronS EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT DON'T WORK ON LINUX NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Audio and codec issues are common for windows native games running on linux, greentext troony.
the 2 times out of hundreds of games I've had any kind of codec issue, I fixed with taking 5 seconds to switch to proton GE
Plenty of games have working audio and working cutscenes.
Some developers using proprietary codecs that can't be legally distributed outside of Windows is a problem, though — specifically, for Wine and Proton developers, a legal problem — so I do wish those developers would stop making things so needlessly difficult. No game needs its cutscenes to be in .wmp format or whatever the frick causes these issues.
The issues for some games have not yet been solved because someone has to track down the random ass codecs to put in the ge version of proton while the game performance deteriorates over time, just like a native port.
This could all be easily resolved if WINE would stop emulating the windows filter graph nonsense using gstreamer and just shit everything media-related through to ffmpeg
This picture is literally me, except 2019 through 2023 are not crossed out, and I'm male.
>I'm male
doubt.jpg
who is that prostitute and why does she look familiar
Was she in House or something?
Anyway she's an idiot because she crossed out years that I've used Linux. (No one else matters. It works on MY machine.)
I think she’s the prostitute that used to host the PC version of game showcases
That is NOT my wife Frankie.
I coomed
Rey Skywalker
looking for games to play on my nobara-bara
should i give elden ding another try?
yes
will pirate tomorrow i guess
Is it best to pirate with tor or a VPN?
direct download hosters are usually safe but slow, some cases where people have been fricked
torrents are fast but your ip is exposed so a (paid) vpn is recommended
tor is slow as frick i guess, never tried for downloads
I have never heard of anyone getting in trouble pirating games. Never. I dont bother with it.
me (my mom) got busted for torrenting dead island so i'd recommend a vpn
are you in the US? Never heard about this in my country in Europe at least. Here people get in trouble only for TV-shows and even then if someone tries to make you go to court about it but as long as you dont admit that it was you they cannot do anything because of reasonable doubt
germany
dead island and resident evil 3 or 5 i think
my mom was really mad at me
Did you frick her?
yeah, Germany might have strict internet laws. Its best to check the law in your country before you pirate stuff
Finally took off the training wheels and deleted my windows partition. Feels good man
>Why arent more people using Linux?
I've been video editing for years and I haven't given up on Vegas Pro 14. I've been using it for so fricking long that I can't switch now.
Just run it in a virtual machine
too much work, but given that most of linux is too much work i might switch just to see what it's like
Have you tried Davinki?
Personally I use Kdenlive for a lot of stuff and that works pretty good, but I heard Davinci resolve is what some people switched to.
I eat spaghetti with a spoon, never put a case on my phones, put my pants on both legs at a time, but not even I would use DaShitty Resolve
I don't use it either Princess Problema. Sorry to offend your heinie's refined tastes.
pretty much everything works except
>Stuff that has a shitty rootkit level anticheat AND neither the anticheat dev nor the game properly allow it to run on Linux, including via Wine/Proton.
Aside from that, most things work on Linux and the even work as well or better vs windows depending on a few particulars of your hardware and software. In fact, the Steam Deck is proof that Valve has pretty much ALMOST single handedly gotten "frick it, even if its some Windows shit we can play it' to a level of ease of use on Linux that it doesn't require tons of workarounds and patches to deal with anything that's not native Linux. So this is a good thing overall.
kys homosexual
This may come as a surprise but people prefer Windows.
To be fair, they prefer it to macOS which is the only other operating system they've ever seen in their lives.
They would still prefer Windows if they did try Linux, but let's not pretend that people who don't know Linux exists are capable of already having an opinion about it.
>but let's not pretend that people who don't know Linux exists are capable of already having an opinion about it.
I present you Ganker
I am a Linuxgay and there are plenty of reasons why one might stick with Windows
>forced to use any kind of commonly used video or editing software
>other work related tasks
>one might enjoy playing Fortnite, Siege and Valorant either alone or with friends
>people who like VR games have a better time on Windows still
>easier access to meme features like Nvidia tech, AI and what not
If you just wanna game and hate liveservice AAA slop - Linux is a no-brainer. Like for me. But my taste ain't universal and telling Windowsgays to just drop Windows is pretty ignorant. If anything i can always recommend everyone to try dual-booting
davinci is pretty common as far as video editing goes, so it depends on what you use
Is there a cursor on linux that doesn't block text while reading or is that feature just too advanced for linux?
t. only ever used the default cursor
what are you talking about? the cursor should become a capital i if it's over text
This shit.
>Why would you put the cursor on top of the text
What is this passive-aggressive coping?
what do you expect the cursor to do? every time I've used mac and windows the cursor has behaved similarly. And you can probably grab a cursor theme and change the text cursor into a single pixel or something
The windows cursor actually becomes transparent, and the text gets color inverted when it switches to the text select mode.
I want it to not block text.
>I want it to not block text.
... move it out of the way? are you fricking moronic?
>The windows cursor actually becomes transparent
Is this a Windows 11 thing? It doesn't do that on my Win10 work computer.
7 at the very least. Don't remember XP or 98, and I'm too lazy to turn on my 98 laptop.
idk man, I'm looking at it right now and windows isn't doing that, you must have installed something. Just use unclutter on linux
Yes, it's a thing on windows 10, but I never noticed it myself because I don't keep my cursor on text since it's still distracting.
So should I just leave my cursor on another monitor or something? I don't have a trackpoint keyboard for my desktop.
Which one has the thing that I need? Does such a theme even exist?
>So should I just leave my cursor on another monitor or something?
No, you should picrel
Is it a setting somewhere? Doesn't work on my machine
It's in the mouse properties menu, on the "pointers" section. Some of the schemes have the transparent thing (like the "Windows Default" schemes), while others don't (like the "Windows black" schemes).
Windows default cursor theme doesn't hide the cursor when it's hovering over text, you sure that's the right one?
>doesn't hide the cursor
Yeah, but it doesn't hide the text under the cursor.
I think he might be talking about one of the transparent cursor themes like the inverted one that flips the color of whatever is behind it. That's been in windows forever.
>doesn't hide the cursor when it's hovering over text
No, it inverts the text you hover over. The only thing to really make the cursor transparent is to check the "hide cursor while typing" option in "Pointer Options".
I still don't get it. My windows cursor looks like it's behaving the exact same way as Linux.
Screencap your cursor over some text.
UNREADABLE
>My windows cursor looks like it's behaving the exact same way as Linux.
>I don't use my work computer for personal things.
Screencap the windows text select cursor.
Are you moronic?
Are you? Do I need to find a windows hard drive and put it in a random laptop to show you the default behavior of a windows cursor?
I can't use my Windows work computer to post images on Ganker and it's too locked down to transfer the image somewhere else. That's the only Windows machine I have.
Then I'll just wait for some windowsgay to post it ITT. I ain't digging through hdds or installing windows to prove a point that you can observe by turning on your work computer that you apparently use.
Thank you for finally articulating what you want in human language.
I don't know how to make it do that because I've never wanted to read text through my mouse cursor.
So you don't get annoyed when your cursor blocks the text by random chance because you left it in a spot for a while?
It has the text select, but it doesn't block text from view. Go to any israelitetube video and find someone hovering over some text with their pointer.
I only ever used the default cursor on linux, and I'm asking if there is a cursor that has the function that I need.
>has the function that I need.
And I gave you your answer. Go find the mouse cursor theme and replace it. It's not some black box.
>So you don't get annoyed when your cursor blocks the text by random chance because you left it in a spot for a while?
Not really. I just put my cursor on a part of the screen with no words if I'm reading. And if I were reading and came across a word overlapped by the cursor, I would be annoyed enough to move the mouse even if text were visible through it.
All of this seems like mental gymnastics for something that should be handled by the compositor.
I didn't say it shouldn't be handled by the compositor. I've just never given a shit about such a feature because I don't try to read through my mouse pointer.
If I had any idea where to submit a feature request then I'd encourage you to go and do it.
As I've already stated, my cursor sometimes blocks the text from view by random chance. It's annoying, and especially noticeable when you're highlighting text.
I swear a god does Microsoft really hire people from India to make up the weirdest ways to slander Linux. My god
Some anon better post the streetshitter kernel developer. Stop denying reality, and give me a solution to the problem.
honestly this cursor thing sounds like a great bait. Imma steal this one if I ever get bored enough
How is it bait when you can reproduce it instantly as you're replying to me. Is to solution to make a new compositor and also a cursor theme?
and the response to this bait is asking for a visual windows demonstration
>>Why would you put the cursor on top of the text
>What is this passive-aggressive coping?
You stopped reading there, huh?
1. What exactly do you want the cursor to do? If you want it to be transparent then maybe there's a way to do that, but I never had a reason to try.
2. Really though, why are you putting it in front of the text you're trying to read?
>this shit
man acting like that is not what cursor does
It's not.
Are you fricking moronic? It's the job of the compositor to make it not block the text from view.
I've used Windows this year and that is exactly what my cursor does
Replace the selection cursor in the theme you're using.
inb4:
>I fricked with my selection cursor and now I struggle to select things!
Why would you put the cursor on top of the text you're trying to read? Surely you can find a few pixels of your screen that aren't displaying the word you're currently looking at.
This sounds like a snarky non-answer but I literally don't know what you want. A semi-transparent cursor or what?
>LINUX HAS BETTER PERFORMANCE THAN WINDOWS!!
>its because certain graphical features get disabled/broken when translated to vulkan
kek
its because proton fixes directx on the fly*
>source: my prolapsed ass!
Works,
wait for it,
On My Machine.
It's because process virtualization isn't turned on by default compared to Windows 10/11. If Linux had proper sandboxing setup by default it would be just as slow if not slower.
Sandboxing is largely pointless theater, like a lot of client side security features outside of strictly controlled enterprise environments. None of it going to stop someone downloading and running an executable they shouldn't. Linux is getting infected with that performative security mindset, but it's mostly restricted to DOA software like flatpak and wayland so whatever. The kernel has none of that besides the occasional high profile bug like spectre, but the mitigations can be disabled on the kernel command line anyway.
we're gatekeeping this information because once the normies find out they will swarm it and ruin it like they do with everything
>winter-themed game
>didn't go on sale for Christmas
lmao
I'm not going to pay $5.99 just to figure out how to get this game working. Not even a refundable $5.99.
I kneel
how did cursor anon exist until now
I was coping, but I got annoyed again and immediately asked for a nonexistent solution.
just change the cursor to a pixel, problem solved
>just make your own gimped cursor theme, bro
Now post the default windows cursor over some text.
I can't, it's a work computer that's super locked down.
>work computer
>personal use
Just don't start customizing your genitals next.
I don't use my work computer for personal things.
how much fricking text is it covering?
Linux is like being a Vegetarian, its better for your body, mind, environment, wallet, etc.
trying to convince a Windows or Apple user to dump their easy big mac Meat burger Drive through Windows for a Linux have to cook the Impossible meat yourself is an uphill battle.
my dad left me a black polo shirt with the linux penguin sewn onto it that says LINUX OPERATOR
i'm too stupid to use linux, and so is 90% of humanity
Trying to teach a moron like me basic Linux terminal commands is like you showing me those dudes that hacking into the matrix with those funky green characters flowing down vertically.
You don't need to know many, and anything even remotely difficult can just be googled. Once you've used the command once it stays in your history so you can just use ctrl+R to find it again so you don't have to remember shit. I use one big lazy command to update/remove shit every couple days. The entire process is
>ctrl+alt+T (opens a terminal)
>ctrl+R
>&&
>enter
And everything updates. If I cared enough I could easily make my computer run that command whenever I boot up but frick it. If you're curious, what ctrl+R finds when I type && is:
>sudo apt update -y && sudo apt full-upgrade -y && sudo apt autoremove -y && sudo apt clean -y && sudo apt autoclean -y
Is this dude watering down the actual complexities of the linux terminal and full of it or is this the jist of all the commands I'll have to use for Linux?
Why are you talking about the terminal being complex when you don't even use it?
you learn a few basic commands then check man/tldr for one offs
Most of us morons could barely troubleshoot and maintain our spyware Windows OS god forbid we try Linux cause lets face it there is an actual intelligence barrier to the Linux here and most of us don't make the cut.
>an actual intelligence barrier to the Linux
Stop huffing your own farts.
but he's not wrong, wintrannies are stuck on bill gates' OS because they're too stupid to manage their own OS. basically console cucks but just a bit less cucked
>linuxtroony isn't self aware
Read the code of conduct and look at sponsors.
have a nice day.
You're a redditor if you think you're more intelligent than anyone for using a different operating system.
>meanwhile at microsoft HQ
As I've already stated, you aren't self aware.
I wish I was using a LGBT friendly OS like yours, sister!
>I wish I was using a LGBT friendly OS like yours, sister!
But you are, xister.
is there something problematic in the code of conduct?
You will never be a real woman even if you're doped up on estrogen, thought police troony.
Correct, but what's the issue you're having?
>thought police troony
pilpul cringe
>deflecting because there's no troonyism in the code of conduct and he knows it
I accept your concession.
moronic troony.
You don't have to sign your posts.
You done trannoid?
>harassment free
Doesn't sound controversial, and there's still no trans flags in my OS. What's the issue?
I thought that there was no troonyism in the CoC. What the frick happened, xister?
What's troony about what you posted?
>I have the same question (103)
He’s right, and this board proves it every time we have one of these threads. There’s actually a noticeable increase in anons responding to ANYTHING technical on here with whatever I give up, which probably coincides with the board getting younger and being raised on smartphones
Yeah but I want to play games without having to look up a literal troony's github for some dxvk compatibility patch. I only play what works with straight up wine staging, and it's not a lot.
huh I never thought about it like that
oh that explains it. I couldn't see that effect at a normal cursor size
It's clearly intended for high contrast use. Seeing shit through it is a bonus side effect and it doesn't account for the outline.
It's unreal how much of a homosexual you are, anon. It's not hard to open notepad or a browser, and hover over text with the select cursor.
I did that, I just couldn't see what was going on because it's like a pixel wide.
Stupid linux beginner question
So how do I get windows programs made by some no name to run on Linux? I thought Wine would be the way but it looks like only so many things run on Wine to translate it. Am I forced to run a VM?
if its open source? Compile it. If its closed source with no Linux release? Use wine. Doesnt work? Welp shit.
frick, now I need to go learn what compiling software even means in this case. But thank you
what kind of software are you even looking for? Remember, this is entirely different OS so you cant really expect everything to work
Perhaps I had misheard when someone may or may not have said "linux" can do everything windows can" and I may have conflated when they were talking about Windows compatibility on Linux.
I want to run random whodev games off itch.io or from random game jams. So few of these are just done in Unity though. Unity or RPG Maker is probably Wine-friendly, you see a fair few Twine games too, so for the ones not just hosted in browser it would be nice to run those.
>games
if they are niche it might be that no one has tested them so naturally they might be broken, or not since Proton is quite good nowadays. Hard to know
I suggest you google around or test it out.
My experience is that every niche visual novel game should work
Doesn't matter how random and obscure the games are. Wine being able to run a game doesn't depend on Wine's developers having heard of it. If people tell you that Wine only runs mainstream games, it's because they don't understand technology, and they imagine that support for each individual game has to be added to Wine manually as if it's like ScummVM or something.
Just try a game with Wine, and if it doesn't work, learn to troubleshoot or give up. Simple as.
I don't like the fact the Linux Foundation heads is a very heavily alt-left troony homosexual inclusive diversity agenda. I thought Linux was supposed to be apolitical and neutral?
its just gibberish you can ignore if there is something. Look at Linux foundation technical board and you see whats up actually
>its just gibberish you can ignore if there is something.
you can ignore it until you can't. you're complacent at your own peril.
>These people do not leave you, your space, or your thoughts alone.
The only time I see anything troony related is when you people post it here.
No, you're here to deny anything troony related, and when proven otherwise to say something along the lines of:
>why does it matter
no that's not true at all. you're lying because you're sympathetic to the demons. everyone knows you're full of shit and you convince no one.
I don't have to lie while you lie as a rule. it's extremely satisfying in a way you will NEVER know. you have no truth in you. cease.
they think they're OMG UR OBSESSED normalgay cope is going to catch on on Ganker lmao they're trying so hard and it just doesn't work
I know it might be difficult to accept, but it's pretty easy to avoid trannies if you don't seek them out intentionally.
lol every single time. must be a bot script.
Believe what you want, friend. I'm the one that doesn't have to deal with trannies on a daily basis.
>just don't seek out and name the though police
Dilate.
>his thoughts get policed
Skill issue.
Total troony Death
Don't know what that has to do with whether or not I see trannies outside of ragebait on Ganker but ok.
It has to do with you ending your life, and your tomb having your birth name engraved on it when your parents bury you.
My wife will probably be burying me and I would assume she would use my birth name, yeah.
>My wife
I believe you, blog larptroony.
A pajeet will use your tomb that your parents will be paying for as a designated shitting grave, that's for damn sure.
What do you do for fun? Just this?
Are you not having fun, tranon?
>no u
They shit inside the kernel, so they will shit on your carcass too.
hello sir
Well I already know I will never be a woman, so I was wondering if your language model is capable of any other topics of discussion.
Cope-a-Cabana
Your seething doesn't help, you don't cure mental illness with death (nor should you assume you go along with delusion). Try another thread or out yourself as a jeet lol.
Oh good it’s a /vpol/ thread now, I guess I can leave finally
>instant cope after getting BTFO
Linux evangelist moment.
i love my steamdeck, thats about it. my main rig has nvidia hardware so ill keep neutered windows 11 on it, thats p much the only reason i havent fully switched, maybe if i ever own amd hardware again
Well. As far as I know, World of Warcraft doesn't work on Linux because of the stupid Blizzard launcher thingy.
Big loss. Not.
battle.net works on linux
Last time I checked, I couldn't get the launcher to run. And website says "no support".
werks on my machine
Are you using Wine? Or what's the trick?
This was just a lazy install with lutris, but you could do the same with wine manually.
what's the pointing hand? how well does gnu step/windowmaker or whatever that wm is handle high dpi?
It's just the dock anchor I changed the icon on, it doesn't really handle hidpi unfortunetly. You might be able to scale gtk stuff but at that point why not just use fvwm. I use a 32 inch monitor pretty close so it feels pretty comfortable at 1440p and I appreciate the extra space imo. Other than that it's still totally useable these days if you're still on X11 without a ton of sacrifice.
Add the bnet installer as a non steam game.
All of blizzards games work on linux, D2R even runs better.
It is a fact that anyone who continues to use Windows for any reason other than work is an NPC, mindlessly punching away on their microslop. As NPCs don't have real feelings or self awareness, they'll punch away at it even as encryption is forbidden and always-online desktop requirements are implemented.
Nice headline. archive.is/7BrU8
>Microsoft debuted passwordless login to websites and apps — and other security features for its operating system built around using passkeys.
>ITT microjeet shills desperetly try to get people to not realize linux is already a viable desktop replacement because without xbox it's literally all microsoft has.
Linux has an akward adjustment period, but you get used to it in a couple of weeks. It's like 30 commands and you use 10 of them often.
How are google and red hat going to save you from microsoft? Is pozz good when microsoft doesn't do it.
At least post a pajeet having fun at the train tracks.
Is everyone who makes fun of troony death a bot to you?
>Is everyone who makes fun of troony death a bot to you?
Just the ones that respond to everything with troony accusations even when it doesn't make sense.
I thought that you were mad at trannies curing their mental illness by suicide. Rest in power sisters!
It's sort of funny how this thread started out with the same autists mad that videogames work on linux (for some reason I guess) were crying troony as a pejorative, some troony actually saw it and got mad about it, and now is arguing with people in the thread that just want to game about how they're obsessed with them.
>microjeet shills
A lot of modern PC users treat the platform like a console and make nvidia vs amd or windows vs linux a brand thing. They think linux users are all trannies cause it's a simple line to draw never mind the forced pride flags
This man just wants to feel like a special snowflake. Round of applause, Ganker
What's with the troony obsessed schizo? And I believe it's mostly one person because he always brings the same images in his gay crusade against people using an operating system he doesn't like.
Anyway, any next fest demos you're looking forward to? I haven't kept an eye on new stuff so I have no idea if there's anything interesting on the horizon
>What's with the troony obsessed schizo?
You will never be a real woman, and that gay is just throwing stones from the glass house that he lives in when he (his linux personality disorder) feels threatened. You will notice that every time he gets BTFO he becomes the troony internet defence force.
Oh also, I had a question:
How do you run something in like, the same part of the computer as a Steam game running via proton?
I wanted to frick around with SA2 mods and stuff but it can't find the game runtime.
rephrase that question please. Are you talking about running non-steam games?
I'm assuming that he's talking about the same wine prefix running multiple programs at once. A mod loader and the game.
I am running Sonic Adventure 2 (bought on steam) via proton on steam and I want to frick around with mods, these mods need to be able to find the game's runtime (I guess this would be its process) while running from the default wineprefix it can't do this.
To get more specific I want to use an editor (Krzys2's) from Chao-Island (.com website) to make a chao purple, because I found out it's impossible to get purple on PC with my save.
cant I've had to mess with wine like that. You could try /vg/ if there is anyone that knows
So for something like that, you'd go into the steam app folder for that game if you root around a bit you should be able to find the game files. I believe they're segregated by proton version but somewhere in there you should find the exe. If you mod it like you would on windows it should work fine. If you need to use wine to run an installer or something there is a command to set the working directory to whatever so you'd just run the installer with the working directly pointed at the directory where the game.exe or whatever is installed. Then just launch through steam or whatever like you would on windows.
I've tried setting the wineprefix as the wineprefix generated by proton and it didn't seem to work, I don't think it's like the SA1 mod loader that you need to run the installer renamed to the launcher via steam. It specifically needs to be able to find the game's process while it's running and it can't?
oh it's like a trainer program. I haven't tried this, but apparently this software works for exactly that.
https://github.com/sonic2kk/steamtinkerlaunch
That or I malformed the wine command to actually run it from the wineprefix.
~/.steam/steam/steamapps/compatdata/[BUNCHA NUMBERS]
To get to the save files, it's here. Just copy that to your wine drive or run the editor from wine there.
You forgot the /pfx at the end.
I assume you mean in the same folder, each steam game has it's own virtual hard drive, and wine has it's own. You can create more if you want but by default it's just one big one; I'm not sure about steam but wine is just under the /home/.wine/ and you can work with the files there just like you would in windows. If your mod needs some dot net files you can install those through winetricks.
The mask falls off
right on the money
Well, you'll have to specify what you mean. Different mods work differently, I'm guessing this mod uses an installer
I'm considering switching from Windows 10 to a linux in the future but, i want to get a better idea of what sort of distro to use. I'm considering one of these 3:
Debian:
Rock solid and stable for the 6 months I've used it on an old gaming laptop. I haven't had many problem. Some modern games require steps to get things working but, over all it seems good.There also seems to be a big community surrounding this distro so getting help will be a little easier. I'm worried that If I try to use it on newer hardware I might have trouble.
EndeavorOS:
Arch made easier. I've been told rolling distros are better with top of the line hardware but, less stable. SteamOS is based off of arch so it might be what game devs target in the future.
Nobara:
This distro is handled by the guy who maintains protonGE. It looks like it was made for gaming but, Fedora tends to have a smaller user base. it looks like it would be harder to get help for this distro and there seems to be less software made specifically for it. I suppose thats what Appimages and Flatpaks are for.
I also had a hard time getting photoshop to work. I'm going to be sad to leave that software behind. I dislike adobe but love pirating their software
>endeavor and Debian
if you're already considering debian you would be perfectly fine using arch over endeavor. It has a different package manager over debian but the largest difference is one is rolling release (Arch) vs stable release (debian).
>Nobara
A solid choice if you want the easiest way into Linux as a Gankerro, nice preinstalled drivers for things you would probably want to do.
Photoshop doesn't really work on Linux regardless of distro though
If your linux doesn't look like this, don't talk to me
>implying anyone would want to talk to a nixos luser
>nixos
>bocchi the reddit
>unironically using cool-retro-term as your primary terminal and not just for nethack
go kill the trannies in windows if you actually care so much
>glowtroony with the incitement to violence
Xe can't keep getting away with it.
Where are my Arch @ CachyOS repos chads at?
i just compile their kernel, i use arch repos for everything else. would compiling wine/proton give any gains?
if you have a newer cpu you can use v3/v4 packages which should give a performance uplift around 10%~
repos are easy to add and remove, so you have nothing to lose
https://wiki.cachyos.org/cachyos_repositories/how_to_add_cachyos_repo/
will i have to rebuild all of my aur packages?
no its only going to replace the arch repo packages
and install cachyos-settings after adding the repos for some tweaks
downloading right now, is the perf uplift for cpu related activities?
I wish someone would do game benchmarks with cachy and a vanilla arch install. All I can find are a couple CSGO benchmarks.
People have done benchmarks time and time again and the linux kernel doesn't remotely benefit from any of these downstream patchsets except in specific scenarios, where everything else that isn't that scenario suffers severely.
Scheduler replacements especially are entirely fricking pointless and I would recommend avoiding BORE like the plague even though it's an addon to the vanilla scheduler; I've experienced no perf improvement with it and a 500% increase in random fricking deadlocks which I was forced to REISUB for. The solution has always been to properly set your fricking niceness and scheduling class on processes.
Sure, but those CSGO benchmarks do actually show like +20 FPS on Cachy. I want to see other games though!
>windows 98 cursor unironically moggs linux in 2024
It's so fricking over.