So, crusader from diablo 3 was canonically raped and killed by knights she wanted to help in diablo 4
But what happened with others player characters?
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So, crusader from diablo 3 was canonically raped and killed by knights she wanted to help in diablo 4
I never played either of the games, but that's hot
If I tried using that weapon I'd probably kill myself with before hitting anyone.
It's a weapon exclusively used from horseback.
You'd never encounter it in this kind of scenario.
But its fantasy so we have all kinds of fun, and in that fantasy you'd do perfectly fine, and it totally wouldn't bounce uncontrollably and brain you.
Flails were used against shields actually.
>flails were used against shields
No.
No they were not.
I tire of this meme.
what were they used for then?
They were used to LARP by morons trying to recreate the nonsensical, completely fictional weaponry that appeared in tapestries, which in turn were created by people who never saw the events they were depicting let alone a single battle in their entire lives
They're not completely fictional, some real historical examples do exist, but they were not used in military formations in a regular or reliable fashion outside the Hussite wars; most accounts and examples locate it as a 15th century weapon, which was likely the peak of its use. You also have to distinguish between peasant flails (two handed, improvised from threshing tools) and "knightly" flails (one handed, a military weapon). The former did see widespread use on more than one occasion during peasant uprisings and in militia formations, while the latter would have been a rarer weapon, likely used as a side arm. They were also used outside Europe, but again, only on occasion.
Flails were used in war in two instances:
>peasant with a flail
>mounted knight with a flail
In the first instance, it's a farming implement. The peasant uses it because they have nothing else to use. An utterly shit weapon, and not at all like the ones you see depicted. It's a long shaft with a short chain at the end with an elongated head. It's a much better weapon this way though, because when the head bounces it's far enough away from you that it's not going to hurt you.
In the second instance, using weapons that look closer to the depiction but with longer shafts and much shorter chains, flails had extreme niche use from horseback. The QRD is, basically, if you hit a Black person with a sidearm while charging past them, the shock of braining them might cause you to drop your weapon. The flail solves this issue with a head that disperses that impact, at the cost of a ton of force that you would otherwise apply by using a rigid weapon that you can ONLY make up if you're charging at speed of horse.
Why is this still suboptimal? Because you can do everything a flail can do better with a lance. The flail makes sense if you're just running down many random unarmored idiots who have broken formation, which, to be fair, is a lot of what an armored/mounted noble would be doing entering the fray after the battle is already decided.
Flails weren't used at all
Flails were farming tools
They were used by pissed off/rebelling farmers in the same way that they would use their pitchfork. Improvised weapons.
> An utterly shit weapon
Yes and no. On one hand, weapons made to be used in battle will always outperform things made to be used in other situations. On the other hand, getting hit would still mean you go down.
>On the other hand, getting hit would still mean you go down
Oh definitely, that fricking thing is going to cave your skull in with a proper swing, and reach is a big asset.
On the scale "things a farmer has handy to bring with him to muster", yes, it's probably on the deadlier end.
All of those things on that scale are utterly outclassed by the lowly and simple metal-headed (appropriate for the time) spear is what I'm saying.
>Flails were farming tools
For what purpose?
beating wheat.
What did the wheat ever do?
Not growing fast or tall enough
Threshing. You put the grain on a mesh and hit it. This cracks the grain shells which will fall through the mesh, and the grain cores will stay on top. Then you take those cores to the mill.
Let's be honest, 90% of Ganker will hurt and possible kill themselves with a lot of weapons before they hurt anyone else if they tried to use them
Best outcome.
And where's your source, coomer?
His source is a side quest with an Crusader npc taking up the mantle of her master Johanna.
Unfortunately for anon, the master has black hair and they quickly establish the Johanna name passes from each other.
How the frick does one of the d3 playables get killed by regular human guys? Even if she wasn't canonically the one who owned femdiablo and Malthael, she should be around their power level as a fully functional nephalem. It's implied that all of humanity would eventually reach their level, but that clearly hasn't happened yet. How did Johanna manage to frick up so bad to find a jobber apprentice, get murked by literal trash mobs, have that jobber apprentice find a jobberer apprentice and also die offscreen?
go to GR level 60 and stand still for 30sec and you'll die. Idk why it's so hard to understand that the player character is still easily killable. She was probably caught while sleeping and hit over the head
why are superheroes so fricking lame?
They're anti heroes.
https://diablo.fandom.com/wiki/Johanna#Diablo_IV
Quest was way more mean spirited than ones where you kill d1 characters in diablo 2
it just works
>Johanna is part of a side quest found at Zarbinzet
>Zarbinzet
Actually looks like a fricking anagram of Zanzibart, jesus christ blizzard
Zanzibar Land... Home...
what about the male crusader?
What?
How could anyone rape and kill a person strong enough to annihilate Diablo and whatever that angel dude's name was?
Blackmail obviously, have you not watched any magical girl hentai?
i guess even all powerful nephalim get old? Also, in all the lore they always retcon it so all the available characters worked together to defeat diablo.
Because according to canon they didn't do it alone, all playable classes did it in a party
Have you ever read an asanagi doujin?
crusaders are religiously coded chud characters so they have to be humiliated and killed as per propaganda regs
>playing as female crusader when male was voiced by Gideon Emery
BAD LUCK FOR YOU, FRIEND
Gideon Emery is fricking awesome. I'd kill to have the crusader class back in D4 with him again.
Oh, that questline. But as you said it's more of a taking up the mantle thing and not the actual D3 Female Crusader.
I also found Lyndon being alive and well in Backwater.
Explain this shit.
Is that d2 remaster?
What is that meme?
I'm using this thread to deposit that Lilith is a demon and evil. Anyone who disagrees with this is a moron and deserves to be tortured to death by a horde of demons after being tricked by them.
she's sexy
>flat chest
>assless posterior
>useful as boxing bag
Sure.
yeah, but she is the lesser of two evils. going by what we were told in d4 killing her instead of mephisto was a mistake.
I thought you cant kill mephisto so he was going to be in that ball for a while anyway. Idk how that works though, I think it would also make sense to smash the ball up again before he is at full power
Killing Zoltun Kulle instead of joining him was also a mistake but we did it anyway.
What happened to the Witch Doctor? I’m a D2 Necro fanboy, but man the Witch Doctor was a cool concept.
>throws frogs at you
AAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>collects 100000000000000 spiders before a battle
Maybe he just waits for them to come back after the fight ends?
imitating nazeebo's voice lines is the most fun part of hots
also deckard's
VILE MINIONS!
THE TRUTH BURNS YOU
AABBBLLUUUUBBBBLLLLAAAAAHHHH
Probably returned home with all his newfound might in an attempt to stop the sacrifices.
Lorath explicitly says the player character does not rest. The rifts are also supposed to be more of a magical mental battle bullshit kind of thing, you can totally just stand still when doing bounties in Sanctuary on T16 or whatever's the highest nowadays, especially as a crusader.
It just makes no fricking sense for the crusader of all of them to die like this. For some of the others I can see getting caught off-guard (but even then it would still be ridiculous, literal "Boss Health Bar appears" levels of bullshit), but the crusader pretty much has vigilance and warding against evil backed into her kit and lore. Even if you put her there without any weapons or armor it's a thing of getting your dick instantly radiated off by the holy energy her body is emitting as soon as you have any ill intent in her presence (especially if you are some rando soldier).
I don't think she was actually raped anon, OP was just spewing bullshit
We will never know, because that sort of a character is haram nowadays.
died and became a spirit of the unformed lands
Describe the rape
>bottom tier trash hero in D3 that gets the short end of the stick in most seasonal changes
>now gets raped and killed in D4
Crusaderbros why must we suffer so
I liked playing as crusader more than barb, more builds were fun for me personally
Monk was my favorite though, but I doubt blizzard will bring that class back because he was the least popular
>50 years
20 officially, but lorath kinda too old for that to make any sense
No, it's 50 years.
30 according to Book of Lorath
I think D4 is set 50 years after D3 so I don't think the crusader in that quest is D4 Johanna, I think it's D4 Johanna's apprentice.
is the game good? seems rather expensive.
It's like most blizzard games, the gameplay is simple and unoffensive enough to keep you going until the end of the campaign and then the awful endgame hits you and you quit instantly.
That's an apt description. D3, WoW are exactly like that. The process is fun then you realize the end-game is dogshit.
That bad huh? Thanks. I'll keep tabs on them.
Don't buy until at least the first expac.
It's like most blizzard games, the gameplay is simple and unoffensive enough to keep you going until the end of the campaign and then the awful endgame hits you and you quit instantly. If the 10 or so hours of barely engaging gameplay is worth the money for you then go off sis I guess, but you'd probably do better just watching youtube tiktoks and spending that money on some more effective way to stimulate your burnt out dopamine receptors.
i dont use tiktok unless i see them in my pmvs
how the shit could johanna be killed by anything? she was practically a demigod after the events of D3/RoS.
same as why the Soceress died, killed off screen when she took off her plot armor.
This is Diablo, what makes you think the player characters are ever safe when we're not actively playing them?
I despise writing that boils down to 'this happens just cos lol'
Don't forget that it's not canon that our characters are killing literal hordes of demons around every corner. That's just gameplay.
it was canon in d3 though.
Diablo writing is pretty worthless, ye.
There was a lot of ways Resurrected could have tweaked Blood Raven, but man they really went with the worst possible look. The bald+mask looks so fricking stupid compared to her transformed raven skull in D2.
I'm not going to pay 60+ euros for this shit.
When can I expect it to be ~€30?
A blizzard game? Check back in like 20 years.
Right there with you though. Not dropping 70 burger bucks on this.
>battleshart
>online store, taking away all the supposed content to fleece you as money
>already 2 expacs planned
>diablo 3 and immortal systems ported over
dead rogue
I never bothered to learn what diablo is all about
I've seen some screenshots from the games and they look cool but why so much hype? what sets it apart from other similar games? is it the marketing budget?
big evil bad time to spend 1000s of thousand killing everything within 0.2seconds across the whole map which is an improvement by 92929393%
Pretty nice campaigns that have a solid sense of atmosphere that most similar games don't, very nice enemy and environment variety, and the endgame/postgame autism-magnets are there for people who want to spend 1000 hours pissing into a bucket.
If you mean D3/4, then nothing.
It's fun. Simple as.
Pretty nice campaigns that have a solid sense of atmosphere that most similar games don't, very nice enemy and environment variety, and the endgame/postgame autism-magnets are there for people who want to spend 1000 hours pissing into a bucket.
If you mean D1/2, then nothing.
I had never played a Diablo games or this sort of ARPG before Diablo 3. The atmosphere/setting and basic gameplay were so great I just finished the campaign in one or two seating. The post-campaign game is not very interesting imo, I guess it’s probably more fun in coop.
>diablo and the hell army emerge and begin to wash over all of sanctuary
>a horn blows in the distance
>zakarums finest on horse back and foot appear on a hill top in the distance
>holy fire rains down on the horde as the crusaders charge the lines
>a familiar face, holding a holy sword, leads the faithful into their final battle
all dead
Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe you need to shut the frick up.
WAIT WHATS THIS ABOUT RAPE
Something anon made up because he is a coomer.
Johanna isn't the player character FemCrusader from 3 you dinguses
When will blizzcucks add controller support for d3
Playing Diablo with a controller is way better than kb/m where tou click every second and move your hands like a schizo
Not a chance, it's an old game.
Your best chance is playing Immortal or buying 4.
pirate the switch version
Monkbros...what happened to us?
The only monks that should be in the game are crusaders. Punching demons is fricking moronic.
How tall is Johanna? Asking for a friend
>anything doing anything to the crusader
>especially a bunch of randoms after D3
Are they moronic? But of course that the attractive, white, blond, holy crusader woman just gets a random edgy death like this makes complete sense coming from nuBlizzard.
Is Diablo 4 worth it for the story? I forgot the story of three sadly
lol no
What happens?
>a star falls on Deckard Cain (he's ok)
>there is a girl named Leah
>go to the star
>Leoric's corpse sits on the stairs to the star
>resurrect Leoric, ask him to move and kill him
>the star was actually Tyrone
>find bits of his sword
>they're behind a chosen one only door but you're the chosen one so it's ok
>a woman touches Deckard Cain (he's no longer ok)
>Tyrone was actually Tyrael
>go to desert
>there is a child
>find Leah's mom
>she tells you to put all the evils in the super soulstone
>Kool aid's corpse sits on the super soulstone
>resurrect kool aid, ask him to move and kill him
>the child was actually Baal
>put him in the super soulstone
>go to castle
>there is a fat frick
>I don't think anything important happens in act 3
>put the fat frick in the super soulstone
>party time
>Leah's mom puts the super soulstone in Leah
>Leah turns into girl diablo
>girl diablo beats up Imperius
>Imperius calls you a gay
>beat up girl diablo
>put girl diablo back in the super soulstone
>Imperius calls you a gay
>party time (for real this time)
EXPANSION TIME
>there is an edgelord angel
>he steals the super soulstone and starts killing humans because he's jealous of the BHC
>find Leah's mom
>find out she fricked diablo
>kill her because that's gross
>she writes you a letter saying evil finds a way
>go back to heaven to beat up the edgelord angel
>Imperius calls you a gay
>beat up the edgelord angel
>he eats the super soulstone for a power up
>beat up the edgelord angel
>Tyrael shows up and says diablo is free because you beat up the edgelord angel
The end.
He asked about D4.
>implying anyone remembers d4 story
The crusader's character story in d3 is about her getting captured as an apprentice and her master letting a random thug kill her to save her, so it could be that. It would be unbelievably stupid for one of the strongest people in the world to kill herself for a random girl, but she could feel guilty enough to actually do it.
Literally none of the Diablo stories are good. Even 1 is bad, and that barely has a story.
>Played Crusader
>Was deathly disappointed they didn't make it into Diablo IV
Damn shame. Hell, I even used that exact Flail.
>no Paladin
>no Crusader
>no comparable holy class
Very lame indeed.
Heaven le bad, demons le misunderstood
None of those are the case. Stop making up issues to be mad about.
uh huh
He says playing a game all about jerking off sylvan.. i mean lilith being misunderstood and trying to help humanity but in the wrong way.
Except Lilith isn't even remotely similar to Sylvanas. Only literal cultists think Lilith is doing something good. For frick's sake, your character finds it necessary to work with god damn Mephisto to ensure she doesn't win. And then Lilith dies like a b***h, you're left picking up the pieces, and Mephisto wins.
nta but it's pretty clearly implied that you are supposed to regret working with Mephisto and not her
also
>demons die
she will be back
>Except Lilith isn't even remotely similar to Sylvanas
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha
not him, but
Diablo 4 ends up with game literally declaring church no better than hordes of demons(who all want to torture your souls for eternity) and going insane, so you run around and killing them
Also dlc class was leaked since beta hell knight who summons demons or some other heresy shit like that
But heaven are pretty okay dudes after d3
The church of light in D4 is specifically for Inarius, who, lorewise, has always been a dick. This is not the same group as, say, the D2/D3 paladins/crusaders.
>you are supposed to regret working with Mephisto
No shit. In a perfect world you wouldn't work with either but Lilith is determined to be the more pressing threat at that very moment, which she is because Mephisto is still manifesting from after the events of D3 and Lilith is right there right now. It's never once implied that you should have worked WITH Lilith, but rather who you kill first.
>treat Inarius like shit
>make him shit
>lilith gets to have the doing evil for the right reasons shit
>makes Inarius more evil than a literal demon from hell
Inarius got fricked by blizzard because the women and gays who made the game hate their own fathers and projected onto him
What the frick are you on about
he's projecting onto d4's writers what they're projecting onto inarius
You're straight up moronic and not worth properly responding too.
They're zealots. Why are you people so stupid? This is a completely different group of people who worship Inarius specifically. An angel who was tortured to madness by Mephisto for countless ages and straight up doesn't like humanity. Even Haven rejects him because he's a dick.
Did me bringing up Inarius being a stand in for daddy issues remind you guys of your own shit fathers?
(You)
(cope)
>Haven
It's spelt Heaven you fricking ESL monkey
Haven has a different meaning entirely
I know, moron, I made a mistake. But if that's all you got then I guess this discussion is over. Good, I'm going to bed.
You a blizzard fanboy, you aren't worth arguing with buddy
Go buy your season pass
>responding three separate times
Okay, okay, here's your last (You).
have a nice day moron
>Go buy your season pass
i already have, its part of my ultimate edition
I corrected your spelling because you are a homosexual and a paid shill
How the frick do you make a mistake between heaven and Haven dipshit
>They're zealots. Why are you people so stupid
Again, I specially pointed that out
No matter how fanatical and religious they are, it's impossible for them to be same as demons.
And that's ignoring all moronic "twists" that happened to make them evil and force you to kill the guy who saved you in prologue
Angels in Diablo 3 also tried to kill all humans though. Order and humanity dont go hand in hand.
>Order and humanity dont go hand in hand.
holy reddit
>The church of light in D4 is specifically for Inarius, who, lorewise, has always been a dick.
It's doesn't matter
They going insane, turning on horadrims the second you finish game was moronic
Game declaring them no better than demons, is pants on the head moronic, because it's literally impossible for human tyrannical organization be as bad as demons, no matter how depraved and insane they are. Demons are always worse.
Yes, even after they mascaraed city of brown desert people
>Yes, even after they mascaraed city of brown desert people
Hurting brown people makes them worse than diablo himself in blizzards eyes anon
>game spends a ton of time REEEEEing about the church in classic caligay ways
>le church same as le demons
shut the frick up anon
lmfao you redditors just cannot admit that the media and status quo now shills your tedious anti religion shit constantly
>no full plate warrior
>have to carry 4 stupid weapons as barb
why..
Lore and intrigue is all Diablo ever needed. The overarching story and its characters are dumb
>canonically raped
ahahaha like nu blizzard would even get close to implying rape exists in their games
Should have done the thorns build.
I feel Diablo 4 has an overheating problem. When I play any other game, like Apex Legends or whatever, my laptop runs a lot cooler. While the graphics are a lot more intensive.
>He actually cares about the lore of a skinnerbox "game"
Diablo and PoE are just different flavour of gacha.
The story and presentation are the only things that interest me about diablo. I think the gameplay is just ok.
The story is terrible, though.
The atmosphere is pretty good, especially since the earlier games don't hint at the endless skinnerbox stuff at all until you're in postgame, and the VA/narration is memorable, but the actual writing kinda sucks and goes nowhere.
They let blacks be knights in Diablo verse?
Imagine bein a zoomie and this is your intro to fantasy rpg cosmology.
Demons are super mega turbo evil from hell and will 100% frick your soulussy but angels are morally gray featherweight losers who fight nothing, win nothing, are nothing.
Except when they go schizo.
There was absolutely no mentioning of rape and its a topic current day Blizzard will ever touch.
Is it me or does it feel like they are just cherry picking what/who from D3 they are referencing in D4? Like Lyndon's ass is the head of Backwater, but lets gloss over the fact that an awakened nephalem should still be out in Sanctuary somewhere. OR the fact the maps don't line up from D3 to D4.
>OR the fact the maps don't line up from D3 to D4.
The real problem with the map is that it's supposed to represent half a continent but instead makes the world feel like a tiny theme park. Caldeum went from being the biggest city in the world (which you don't see even a fraction of ingame) to a small zone that's probably barely bigger than an individual zone from D3's act 5.
This is correct coupled with the literal gate of hell/entrance to Mephisto's realm is suddenly under Caledum even though it was Balial who had dominion over Caledum.
Caldeum was small in D3 too, the scope of an action rpg is not big enough to have huge cities.
This is not an mmo.
Completely unsurprising considering Blizzard's extremely high employee turnover rate.
>he has female crusader as canon in his mind
>writes a fanfic about her getting gang raped
coomer + leftism = troony
Yup I'm thinking crusaders are dringe
You're telling me that was raped but not this?