I'm with here. as someone who loves gen 8 to the point of thinking it's the best mainseries game, the only real way to fix it is to make it story mode and den only. that shit was not fit for pvp.
>as someone who loves gen 8 to the point of thinking it's the best mainseries game
Can you elaborate as to why? Other than Joe Merrick, I know nobody who actually considers Gen 8 to be their favorite/"the best".
oh sure!
some of it is definitely British bias, but I really do enjoy sword and shield because it felt like it balanced everything perfectly.
The dex has a lot of great designs in it, and it gave new forms to pokemon that desperately needed a touch-up like Corsola, Farfetch'd, and Linoone, and it had some overall bangers in it like Grookey, Orbeetle, Drednaw, the entire Applin Line, Polteageist, Copperajah, Stonjouner, Eiscue, Dragapult, Runerigus, the Fossils, and Barraskewda.
The gym challenges were enjoyable and had some pretty unique examples in their things, even Melony's, which I dislike for being super annoying, is a great use for something they've never been able to use before, being the rumble feature.
the fact we got a dark type gym leader after so many years is amazing, and they didn't even inherently make him "evil" in any way (also emo boy is great).
Hottest take here, but I genuinely think Hop is the greatest rival (after tierno) because in my honest opinion he's the only character in this series to truly have "growth", he went from being in his older brothers shadow, to rethinking his life, and then realised that he has other aspirations in his life than pokemon battling, and finally became his own person.
The routes were simple, sure, but the fact that we got an open-world area that doesn't feel like a giant fricking slog to traverse like S&V, alongside the traditional route system, makes exploring the region a lot better.
Seeing a wienery orphan with a vegeta complex getting vibe checked by an old lady was one of the funniest things I've ever witnessed in this series
And finally, the dex cut, while depressing, was a gigantic breath of fresh air to the metagame when the game launched. hell, shit like DURANT was viable in OU for a few months. (then the dlc came out and ruined it but oh well.)
>I genuinely think Hop is the greatest rival (after tierno)
I can appreciate Hop's character arc too, but why the frick do you think Tierno's the greatest rival? He's such a nothing character that I can't understand the appeal at all, to the point that reading that immediately made me think your post had to be bait.
nah you don't understand, as a man with crippling anxiety, tierno to me is the ultimate rival. why? cause he's literally the ONLY RIVAL that I know of that actually had a backup plan/side hobby, that being dancing. and I respect a man that has options.
also his design is one of those "so bad it's good" things tbh.
FPBP
Dynamax exists for no other purpose than to fill the Mandatory Marketing Gimmick slot. It was a big flashy "feature" to sell the game in trailers, and they could sell Dynamax Band toys. Unlike Mega Evolution and Z-Moves, there was zero creativity behind the mechanics, as proven by the fact that it's only available during boss fights (because they couldn't be bothered to even attempt to balance it).
Cap the speed max move to the same as the attack boosting 1s.
Health increase is now 1/3 not double at 10 bars.
Id also remove it from raids it has the same energy as >nerfing HP recovery moves to put emphasis on the "spam super effective move to win" philosophy that the game already way has too much of
HP recovery moves to put emphasis on the "spam super effective move to win" philosophy that the game already way has too much of
oh hey that's from the SV copy pasta
>Still fixed location since that was a good thing compared to Megas and Z-Moves stomping everywhere and honestly it kinda makes sense you can't just make your monster grow everywhere. >6 dynamax levels instead of 10. > Level 0: Mon can't Dynamax > Level 1: Mon can Dynamax, but Speed and Evasion are both dropped to the minimum,. >Level 2: Mon can Dynamax, but Speed is dropped to the minimum and Evasion are dropped sharply. >Level 3: Mon can Dynamax, But Speed and Evasion are dropped sharply. >Level 4: Mon can Dynamax but Speed is dropped sharply and Evasion are both dropped by one stage. >Level 5 (Cap): Mon can dynamax, but Speed an Evasion are both dropped by one stage. >This makes each level feel more signifigant and the effects noticable even for kids compared to BIGGER HP. >The speed drop should help stem the snowballing into a sweep, if just slightly by making it easier to outspeed. >The Evasion drop means that when facing one the "Eww 80/75 Accuracy" type moves are actually more viable as counterplay options (even with the Maxxing ends) >Max Candies are made significantly rarer and Dynamax level is instead the highest rarity raid a mon been in (having been caught in one counts as being in it, If a mon never been in a raid? Can't Dynamax. your shitmon Caterpie got carried in a 5* Raid somehow? It's now great at Dynamaxing. >You only get the band after the 3rd gym, when you are leaving for the second leg of the Gym Challenge rather then before the wild Area, giving the initial gym battle more weight of "David VS Goliath". >Minimize immediately ends Dynamax because it would be a funny interaction.
TL;DR: Stall player Access in the Campaign slightly, Revamp level system to make each individual stage feel more signifigant and more tied to story progression (since that decides what level of raids you have available) and make it feel like you mon is actually getting more proficient in the Dynamax form, add some logical drawbacks to sell the BIG AND SLOW,.
>They're just alternate formes with a unique held item
they were a mistake that ruined the franchise. it is the reason the other shit you listed exists in the first place
kalosperms are the worst
I do agree with this. As nice as tera is for giving another defensive option outside of switch or Protect, the flexibility that Dynamax brought to team building was just too good. You didn't need to bring a dedicated anti-sleep option, you could just bring something with a fairy or electric move and set up terrain. You didn't need dedicated speed control, you could just bring something with a normal or flying move. It really helped for broadening the number of Pokemon you could choose from, and it's telling that in Series 10, the one that banned Dynamax, the meta was HYPER centralized on like 12 Pokemon, as opposed to 50 you were seeing in Series 8, 9, and 12.
Remove Gigantimax. Have the double health only happen when playing in doubles. Dynamax was actually a great and fun mechanic in doubles, it just broke singles. Gigantimax formes had the same problem megas did of forcing you to play and teambuild around a small group of especially powerful mons, which defeated the idea behind the universal nature of dynamax.
By removing it entirely
I'm with here. as someone who loves gen 8 to the point of thinking it's the best mainseries game, the only real way to fix it is to make it story mode and den only. that shit was not fit for pvp.
>as someone who loves gen 8 to the point of thinking it's the best mainseries game
Can you elaborate as to why? Other than Joe Merrick, I know nobody who actually considers Gen 8 to be their favorite/"the best".
oh sure!
some of it is definitely British bias, but I really do enjoy sword and shield because it felt like it balanced everything perfectly.
The dex has a lot of great designs in it, and it gave new forms to pokemon that desperately needed a touch-up like Corsola, Farfetch'd, and Linoone, and it had some overall bangers in it like Grookey, Orbeetle, Drednaw, the entire Applin Line, Polteageist, Copperajah, Stonjouner, Eiscue, Dragapult, Runerigus, the Fossils, and Barraskewda.
The gym challenges were enjoyable and had some pretty unique examples in their things, even Melony's, which I dislike for being super annoying, is a great use for something they've never been able to use before, being the rumble feature.
the fact we got a dark type gym leader after so many years is amazing, and they didn't even inherently make him "evil" in any way (also emo boy is great).
Hottest take here, but I genuinely think Hop is the greatest rival (after tierno) because in my honest opinion he's the only character in this series to truly have "growth", he went from being in his older brothers shadow, to rethinking his life, and then realised that he has other aspirations in his life than pokemon battling, and finally became his own person.
The routes were simple, sure, but the fact that we got an open-world area that doesn't feel like a giant fricking slog to traverse like S&V, alongside the traditional route system, makes exploring the region a lot better.
Seeing a wienery orphan with a vegeta complex getting vibe checked by an old lady was one of the funniest things I've ever witnessed in this series
And finally, the dex cut, while depressing, was a gigantic breath of fresh air to the metagame when the game launched. hell, shit like DURANT was viable in OU for a few months. (then the dlc came out and ruined it but oh well.)
>I genuinely think Hop is the greatest rival (after tierno)
I can appreciate Hop's character arc too, but why the frick do you think Tierno's the greatest rival? He's such a nothing character that I can't understand the appeal at all, to the point that reading that immediately made me think your post had to be bait.
nah you don't understand, as a man with crippling anxiety, tierno to me is the ultimate rival. why? cause he's literally the ONLY RIVAL that I know of that actually had a backup plan/side hobby, that being dancing. and I respect a man that has options.
also his design is one of those "so bad it's good" things tbh.
FPBP. dynamax was a mistake. gigantamax mons were also a mistake
Yes
Back to no gimmick bullshit, or keep the mega and add new ones every gen
/thread
worst gimmick ever made. Makes me geniunely angry how bad it is
/thread
FPBP
Dynamax exists for no other purpose than to fill the Mandatory Marketing Gimmick slot. It was a big flashy "feature" to sell the game in trailers, and they could sell Dynamax Band toys. Unlike Mega Evolution and Z-Moves, there was zero creativity behind the mechanics, as proven by the fact that it's only available during boss fights (because they couldn't be bothered to even attempt to balance it).
Cap the speed max move to the same as the attack boosting 1s.
Health increase is now 1/3 not double at 10 bars.
Id also remove it from raids it has the same energy as
>nerfing HP recovery moves to put emphasis on the "spam super effective move to win" philosophy that the game already way has too much of
HP recovery moves to put emphasis on the "spam super effective move to win" philosophy that the game already way has too much of
oh hey that's from the SV copy pasta
>Still fixed location since that was a good thing compared to Megas and Z-Moves stomping everywhere and honestly it kinda makes sense you can't just make your monster grow everywhere.
>6 dynamax levels instead of 10.
> Level 0: Mon can't Dynamax
> Level 1: Mon can Dynamax, but Speed and Evasion are both dropped to the minimum,.
>Level 2: Mon can Dynamax, but Speed is dropped to the minimum and Evasion are dropped sharply.
>Level 3: Mon can Dynamax, But Speed and Evasion are dropped sharply.
>Level 4: Mon can Dynamax but Speed is dropped sharply and Evasion are both dropped by one stage.
>Level 5 (Cap): Mon can dynamax, but Speed an Evasion are both dropped by one stage.
>This makes each level feel more signifigant and the effects noticable even for kids compared to BIGGER HP.
>The speed drop should help stem the snowballing into a sweep, if just slightly by making it easier to outspeed.
>The Evasion drop means that when facing one the "Eww 80/75 Accuracy" type moves are actually more viable as counterplay options (even with the Maxxing ends)
>Max Candies are made significantly rarer and Dynamax level is instead the highest rarity raid a mon been in (having been caught in one counts as being in it, If a mon never been in a raid? Can't Dynamax. your shitmon Caterpie got carried in a 5* Raid somehow? It's now great at Dynamaxing.
>You only get the band after the 3rd gym, when you are leaving for the second leg of the Gym Challenge rather then before the wild Area, giving the initial gym battle more weight of "David VS Goliath".
>Minimize immediately ends Dynamax because it would be a funny interaction.
TL;DR: Stall player Access in the Campaign slightly, Revamp level system to make each individual stage feel more signifigant and more tied to story progression (since that decides what level of raids you have available) and make it feel like you mon is actually getting more proficient in the Dynamax form, add some logical drawbacks to sell the BIG AND SLOW,.
There it is.
By removing it, tera, and Z-moves.
>But what about megas?
What about e'm? They're just alternate formes with a unique held item.
>They're just alternate formes with a unique held item
they were a mistake that ruined the franchise. it is the reason the other shit you listed exists in the first place
kalosperms are the worst
let the pokemon step on me
Dyna was the best gimmick. I would maybe lower the base power of the higher end moves though, 150 BP is too much it should max like 140
I do agree with this. As nice as tera is for giving another defensive option outside of switch or Protect, the flexibility that Dynamax brought to team building was just too good. You didn't need to bring a dedicated anti-sleep option, you could just bring something with a fairy or electric move and set up terrain. You didn't need dedicated speed control, you could just bring something with a normal or flying move. It really helped for broadening the number of Pokemon you could choose from, and it's telling that in Series 10, the one that banned Dynamax, the meta was HYPER centralized on like 12 Pokemon, as opposed to 50 you were seeing in Series 8, 9, and 12.
Erase SwoShit (and LGBT, BDSPiss, PLAss, and ScatVomit) from existing
Gen 9 balanced it perfectly.
Make it Kaijumon Exclusive
Remove Gigantimax. Have the double health only happen when playing in doubles. Dynamax was actually a great and fun mechanic in doubles, it just broke singles. Gigantimax formes had the same problem megas did of forcing you to play and teambuild around a small group of especially powerful mons, which defeated the idea behind the universal nature of dynamax.
At the end of each turn, one of the three orbital clouds dissolves, counting down the time limit.
Takes a turn to activate
Receives 1.5x damage from any move that would hit multiple targets in doubles