So I can just play video games to become a world class race car driver?

So I can just play video games to become a world class race car driver?

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well yeah, you just have to get really good at it

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just need to play videos games for 16 hours a day and invest in adult diapers. Then a car company will let me drive a million dollar race car?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      i dont understand how people get good at sims without understanding the real thing

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        because sims aren't 1:1 to real life
        there's multiple championship winning drivers that say stuff like
        >sim racing is more difficult than driving in reality because the tyres aren't behaving accurately

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          i don't think it's fully down to the tyres behaving inaccurately but also it's got to do with how you are used to feeling the g-forces with your body in a real car compared to a simrig where you don't get moved at all no matter how fast you attack corners, causing some fine details to be easily missed during downshifts or when trying to find the limits of slip angle.
          majority of simracers have probably learned to understand car behaviour through the wheel itself as it is the only feedback you will get unless you spend a lot of money on a motion rig, and even then you won't get nearly as much feeling as a race driver would get from a real racer. i think it's possible to apply driving principles learnt in simracing to real life and vice versa, though.
          i've played a shitton of different sims for almost 2 decades and it's not that hard to hop from one sim to another but of course being fast is another thing that will always take it's own time.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            The tires *are* inaccurate in most sims, though. Ironically, people shit on Gran Turismo and Project CARS, but those get the tires much closer to real life than un-modded Assetto or iRacing. It's because GT and PCars fine tuned their tire behavior by getting real race drivers to play the game until it felt right. Assetto and iRacing tried to make an autistic simulation of a tire based on wonky data and just argued with anyone that told them it felt bad.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              the tires in iracing behave like they do because the game is built off code from a 20 year old nascar game

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've got quite a bit of real seat time in various race cars, and I'm the shittiest sim driver out of all my no-car buddies that I race on Assetto every weekend, kek. Some things can be transferred between the two like car positioning in a class group and the general racing line on a track, but the actual feel of the car is something you can't and will never get from sim racing. That being said, I always try to spend some time on a sim driving a new track before I drive it in person and it helps massively with track knowlege ahead of time.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        the biggest thing is there's no fear factor in sim racing, you can get the basics down in sims pretty good but driving on the limit is not transferable at all

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          There's also no G forces. A lot of sim nerds throw up and/or pass out after a couple of laps in a real race car on high grip tires. There's a hilarious case of this happening with the supposed top iRacing road racer, which is a programmer for a living and probably just makes really good undetectable cheats.

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          14:45 if it doesn't auto-scrub.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            This. F1 drivers can press like 200lbs with their neck muscles

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            There are g forces moron they just don't affect you personally. The car still reacts to inertia exactly as in real life, which is the important part.

            You getting jostled around in the seat is actually a pointless distraction and it's a lot easier to drive fast when you understand what you are doing fully instead of merely reacting to what you can feel.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              >and it's a lot easier to drive fast when you understand what you are doing fully instead of merely reacting to what you can feel.
              this is the most moronic shit I've ever read

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                every time someone says this to me they reveal they are a total drivelet

                if you sit there reacting to inertia and using it as your tell for oversteer or understeer, rather than knowing what to do before the inertia starts pulling the car in the opposite direction, you're slow. You're reacting after the fact instead of knowing what the car will do before entering the corner. The G-force acting on your body that indicates chassis movement can change massively depending on road surface and conditions, and is not a good tool to drive with precision. Precise braking, corner entry and acceleration is a question of how good you are at geometry, not how sensitive your ass is to sliding around in your seat.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are at most 14 and have never been on a racetrack, and it is painfully obvious.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm 34, I have driven more cars than you can even count on more tracks than you know. I've competed in 24 hour endurance events. You are a drivelet and a moron who has never been to The Zone. The one Senna talked about at Monaco.
                At that point everything you feel is pointlessly late. Your brain reacts faster than your body can even give it info. The G-force becomes like a breeze. It's utterly pointless.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                sure kiddo

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                stay slow sonny jim
                you will never be a winner

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              dude, you're fricking moronic. There is a reason F1 drivers are also in top-tier physical condition. Resisting the "pointless distraction" the the G forces of driving that fast is probably the most difficult part of the sport

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                The same goes for fighter pilots to a higher degree.

                I do love watching old WWII pilots flying their old planes in 1:1 flight simulators, however.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >to a higher degree.
                honestly, it's worse for F1 drivers. Modern pilots may have to withstand 9 Gs for a few seconds in the course of a 2+ hour flight, and WWII pilots withstanding about 6 Gs for a few minutes in a dog fight, F1 drivers are having to withstand 5+ Gs every couple seconds over the course of a 2 hour race.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                are there fighter pilots who took up F1 driving and visa versa?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not that I know of, but they're basically cut from the same cloth. High achieving, buff manlets, usually with wealthy parents who are great at basically everything except being tall.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ray Crawford WWII pilot and Indy 500 racer
                Frederick Anthony Owen Gaze WWII pilot and F1 driver

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Eddie Rickenbacker ran in the first ever Indy 500, and a half dozen other races. Though obviously things were significantly different 100 years ago

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >to a higher degree.
                honestly, it's worse for F1 drivers. Modern pilots may have to withstand 9 Gs for a few seconds in the course of a 2+ hour flight, and WWII pilots withstanding about 6 Gs for a few minutes in a dog fight, F1 drivers are having to withstand 5+ Gs every couple seconds over the course of a 2 hour race.

                are there fighter pilots who took up F1 driving and visa versa?

                The G forces in a plane vs. a race car are completely different. Planes only pull positive G's in the vertical direction, like suddenly going up a steep hill in a car (you know that inflection point where you get pushed down into your seat?). Withstanding airplane G's is mostly about tensing your body and doing breathing exercises until you're done with that pull up. In a race car, the forces are lateral into your ribs and, if you're lucky, maybe your shoulders/legs, and you have to precisely manage gas/brake/steering angle while feeling more than your entire body weight pushing against your side. Lateral G's are way, way worse than vertical G for G, and there is much more to be done in a race car while pulling them vs. a fighter jet where you're just pulling up on the stick until you see what you need to see to shoot.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                this homie really be thinkin planes cant turn...

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                This homie really not understanding *how* planes turn.

                You bank and then pull back on the stick, idiot, that's still vertical G's from the reference point of the pilot's body.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              You fricking idiot, I mean there's no G forces slamming you around that you have to cope with. A sim wheel is just you playing a video game, actually pulling 2G in a car feels like getting hit by a football player every corner, it's much harder to keep everything in line when you're getting smacked around like that.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                It doesnt matter moron, the forces are still slamming the car around inside the sim, it behaves the same way whether you feel it or not.
                racing drivers are bolted into form fitting seats that prevent them from being chucked around the cabin by high g forces because having to physically resist Gs while manipulating the car is monstrously difficult and takes strength that is only developed by knowing how to move the car in the first place. The sim takes this element of stress away and lets you focus purely on precise lines, which translate into real life easily.
                In fact once you feel what that corner feels like irl your brain fills in the gaps and you will "feel" those gs in your head when you run the sim.
                you personally being acted on by centripetal force isn't important. what the car does is.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're still not getting it, being "le bolted" into a seat doesn't change the fact you're getting ripped around side to side fighting for your life to stay planted enough. It's the difference between playing a UFC video game and actually getting in the ring and getting punched. Sim will always be the b***h boy cope and deserves none of the respect doing this in real life deserves.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                once you hit a certain pace on a circuit you are familiar with, all that shit melts away. It's hard to explain but eventually you go so fast that your body doesnt even have time to tell your brain what it's feeling until you are already passed the point of action so you need to know what to do before you feel it. At that point the sim skills come into play because in training with sensory deprivation, you learn to know what you should do before you do it. That is The Zone.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                GOD FRICKING DAMMIT FRICKING moron

                FOR THE LAST FRICKING TIME, YOU AREN'T USING THE G'S TO DRIVE THE CAR, YOU'RE FIGHTING THEM TO STAY IN CONTROL OF THE VEHCLE BECAUSE IT'S LIKE GETTING A FOOTBALL PLAYER RAMMING INTO YOUR RIBCAGE AND YOU'RE STRUGGLING JUST TO HANG ON

                You clearly have never driven a car with real track tires and it shows. GTFOH video game boy.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you so worked up, homosexual? Sounds like you need to get a better seat, kek. Dealing with g-forces over a long stint can be rough, but if you feel like you've got a football player ramming your ribcage in each turn, your restraints are shit. I can absolutely guarantee you're not pulling 2gs in whatever you drive. An HPDE day doesn't count as a track day, btw.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you think belts are enough to fix the issue, you have not been in a high grip car. No, your .9G street tires are not that.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                you are a fricking moronic drivelet who gets bodied irl by Forza players on the regular
                just stop posting forever thanks.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is a moronic take
                A UFC video game just has you press buttons to execute attacks and the skill of the game is in executing technical combos that break the other players defense, kind of like a two player game of Simon Says. That doesn't at all translate to the physical strength and endurance needed to actually engage in a fistfight with a 300 lb Russian.

                Simulators on the other hand do in fact deal heavily with the raw skill required to race and the visual geometric mathematics that you need to be able to calculate a racing line. For the most part they can also teach an understanding of vehicle dynamics and setup adjustment. They are a great place for trying alignment settings before you go spinning nuts on your real car. Actual sim racing, like against other humans, is absolutely one of the best skills builders for any racer or enthusiast as it teaches you to expect the dumbest shit on the road and deal with it fast, without any serious consequences. Sim endurance racing takes just as much organization, skill and effort as real endurance racing the only difference is that the cars don't really break down or wear out like irl so you get a more consistent result and more people finish generally.

                sims are not just video games and your misinformed opinion comes from a lack of experience with sim and real racing.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is a pretty good take. Sim (with other experienced drivers) is the best thing you can do short of actual seat time. I disagree heavily about sim taking as much organization and effort as real driving, because you've never known tired until you're scrambling all night with your guys to get a car prepped and end up driving a feature on 2 hours of sleep. But otherwise, this is pretty spot on.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                the two times I've done the P1 gaming nords 24 we were in fact scrambling up to race day with setups and stint organization and equipment testing and failures, like the night before the race my G27's desk clamps broke tru the base of the wheel and I had to strap it to the desk with bungee cords. The second one I did in VR and it was sick because we had four cars sponsored by Tenga (yes the sex toy company) and we were supposed to stream our POV but my computer couldn't hold 90fps in RF2 vr on the burgerking at night and also encode a stream despite rigorous testing otherwise so I had to cut it after a lap stabbing my eyes out at 23 fps.
                Turns out RF2 has a bug where the rear view mirrors on opponent cars are copies of the mirrors on your car, which is normally not a problem in pancake mode but in VR the mirrors are redrawn for each eye which rapes the frame rate.

                So no I don't think there is much difference. The problems are different but just as challenging and numerous.

                [...]
                Who let these fricking Redditors in?

                The amount of cope I'm reading is unreal.

                Once again, I'm solely speaking about the physical brutality you experience driving in a race car that pulls 2G+ in corners. A wittle custom fitted seat or some seatbelts is not going to save you from the fistfight you will experience driving it, it literally beats the shit out of you. You clearly literally can't even comprehend it.

                Yes, UFC games aren't exactly fistfight training, but the point is it's the difference between watching someone get punched virtually and actually getting punched, you're not feeling the punches if you're not in the actual race car, the actual race car will kick your fricking ass.

                Get the frick out of your video game chair and actually get into one and you'll understand and apologize for this abortion of a comment chain. No amount of "WELL, AKTUALLALLY THE STEERING INPUTS ARE VERY SIMILAR" accounts for the raw physical ass kicking you will get in a real race car.

                Sim racing is a starting point for people that know nothing so they don't die or spend thousands while they're still completely clueless, but the best sim racer in the world is no more than 80% of where they need to be to actually drive a fast lap, maybe not even 50% if they're a skinnyfat weakling.

                you're a dumb reactionary slow drivelet who has never even raced a gokart
                stop posting you absolute moron.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >like the night before the race my G27's desk clamps broke tru the base of the wheel and I had to strap it to the desk with bungee cords
                >but my computer couldn't hold 90fps in RF2 vr on the burgerking at night and also encode a stream despite rigorous testing otherwise so I had to cut it after a lap stabbing my eyes out at 23 fps.
                I'm sorry mate, but these issues sound like the most inconsequential whiny tech-nerd baby problems that have absolutely no consequences other than "darn, I'll miss this one virtual race." When you're laying in the dirt, stressing to put your suspension back together 30 minutes before the race and knowing that if you frick it up, you might die when it fails, then you'll get an idea of what goes into race prep.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >absolutely no consequences
                each car had 3-4 drivers with roughly 3 hour stints so if I couldn't race then nobody could take my place. Again, we were sponsored by real companies and there was an expectation that we finish.
                when you're tweaking your computer to get the most graphical horsepower and stability to make everything go smooth it begins to feel a lot like the kind of shit you have to do to a car for it to run it's best. Like sure you could run with sub optimal timing and alignment but you won't do very well.

                The fact you won't die just makes solutions to those problems easier to pick. If you frick up and wreck someone else because of your poor choice then you may lose your privileges of racing in that organization, which is worse than death depending on how seriously you take it.

                We prepped and practiced for months ahead of time, it's true we didn't have to deal with logistics at all so that makes things easier, and the cars don't break hopelessly so there's nobody crying in a sandpit, but other even crazier shit happens and you just gotta roll with it. One of our drivers had a bad off and hit ESC by mistake which immediately retired the car with no chance of returning. In sim racing your event can be ended by the dumbest shit, a single keypress, or a power surge in your house. I have a UPS specifically for this reason and part of my training regimen for racing is to drive like an absolute monkey to see how the car will behave when im 2 hours in and making mistakes.

                You keep insisting I used G forces as necessary feedback when I've literally never said that you fricking moron. I'm explaining to you that it's a physically demanding thing that you do not understand.

                [...]
                Cool, tell me more about your 155 width LingLongs

                [...]
                >I find pulling over 2Gs laterally fun

                You ain't pulling 2Gs. About 1.5G or less is fun, after that it gets physically punishing. Or maybe you're just such a total manlet there's no mass to pull G's against. A former SCCA champ tried to drive the karts I race and literally almost passed out after 1 lap and sold his kart afterwards. High grip race vehicles are no joke.

                [...]
                You drive some pigfat LARP cars that barely pull any G's, go sit in the corner, porky. HDPEs are homosexual loser shit for babies that can't hack it in real race cars.

                ____________________

                God, I fricking hate how the computer nerd crowd found their way into sim racing, it really did dork up the entirety of the car experience. Everyone is just fat homosexual IT workers nowadays.

                shut up homosexual nobody cares

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                You have to be joking with all of this, this is so unbelievably dorky I want to go to your house, grab you by the ankles, and give you a swirlie. Please stop and at least find a rental kart track and try to redeem yourself.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                you're such a fake little b***hbaby you probably can't even reach up to my ankles lmao
                go back to your hpde club homie you don't know shit about real racing and frankly neither does kart larper itt

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                You keep insisting I used G forces as necessary feedback when I've literally never said that you fricking moron. I'm explaining to you that it's a physically demanding thing that you do not understand.

                >fighting for your life to stay planted enough
                lol i relax in hard braking zones now

                Cool, tell me more about your 155 width LingLongs

                Not who you are arguing with and I generally come down on the side of not wasting too much money on sim racing that could be spent on real racing but I find pulling over 2Gs laterally fun. It's a little exhausting but really not that bad at all. Even 70yos in ok enough shape manage, though they do sometimes complain when there is a full 30 minute race with no safety car breaks. If you are able to jog a 5K you are fit enough to pilot a formula car no problem. It is nowhere near as exhausting as boxing. I think some people get a little goofy about the "athleticism" of racing drivers.

                >I find pulling over 2Gs laterally fun

                You ain't pulling 2Gs. About 1.5G or less is fun, after that it gets physically punishing. Or maybe you're just such a total manlet there's no mass to pull G's against. A former SCCA champ tried to drive the karts I race and literally almost passed out after 1 lap and sold his kart afterwards. High grip race vehicles are no joke.

                You're not a race car driver just because you've been qualified to solo by the instructor at your local HPDE club point-by meet. I can, without a doubt, guarantee that I have more actual seat time than you do in more cars than you've ever driven, and you're a gigantic homosexual.
                A race car does kick your ass (in varying degrees depending on what you're actually driving and the stint of your time on the course), but the pummeling you're describing doesn't happen in anything short of a proper mini-formula or a dirt sprint car. You sound like the kind of whiny homosexual that would get laughed out of the pits for crying about his sore arms after climbing out of a car during qualifying, kek.
                If you've had any amount of seat time beyond the instructor babying you around an open road course, you'd understand that sim is far from being a 1:1 comparison, but still has its benefits for learning car control when you can't actually get behind the wheel. If you quit seething like a goddamn infant, maybe people would take you more seriously.

                You drive some pigfat LARP cars that barely pull any G's, go sit in the corner, porky. HDPEs are homosexual loser shit for babies that can't hack it in real race cars.

                ____________________

                God, I fricking hate how the computer nerd crowd found their way into sim racing, it really did dork up the entirety of the car experience. Everyone is just fat homosexual IT workers nowadays.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >A former SCCA champ tried to drive the karts I race and literally almost passed out after 1 lap and sold his kart afterwards
                Ooooh shit, is this the return of kart larp engineer anon?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Is this the return of the fatass IT nerd that thinks video games are real life?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >terminally online kartgay calling people computer nerd dorks

                Anons, you know all of the front running race drivers kart too, right?

                Are we pretending again that 4000 lb street cars are realer race cars than a tubeframe vehicle custom built for racing?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Karts are fantastic and highly capable racing vehicles, but you don't need to be a UFC fighter to drive one.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Tell me you've never driven a 2-stroke at a competitive pace on the softest compound tires without telling me. Most people that talk like you are 5-10 seconds off pace.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >terminally online kartgay calling people computer nerd dorks

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Data says I get sustained 2Gs on high speed sweepers when the aero is actually doing something other than just being drag. I raced a lot of go karts that pull high G force too, and there are old farts racing those as well. I've never seen anyone pass out, even in enduros when you're in the car for an hour or more.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your data glitched out, then, if you think that wasn't much, and 2G is just the start, I've been up to 3. These aren't rental karts I'm talking about, either, of course any old person can drive those. Not talking about LOser206 horseshit, either.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've been up to 3 as well, but only as peaks in sharp banked corners in karts. 2 sustained is harder imo because it makes breathing a little difficult. Even so, it's plenty doable for most people.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Banked corners don't count, part of that G is down into the seat which is much easier to deal with. I've pulled 3G laterally, whole different ballgame. If you think even 2G is no big deal, you weren't really pulling 2 pure lateral G or, once again, you are the manlet of all manlets.

                Whole lotta cagers and busriders acting like sitting in a chair and turning a wheel is hard work.

                I track motorcycles and it has the least G forces between karts and cars. It's demanding because you have to jump side to side to set up for each corner, but the G forces don't do much. Even MotoGP is lucky to crack 1.4 G and IIRC that's only under braking. Motorcycles are the most dangerous, but again that's not anything to do with what's being discussed here.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't believe you have driven a go kart, I think you just read some stats online and decided to be an butthole.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                you're such a fake little b***hbaby you probably can't even reach up to my ankles lmao
                go back to your hpde club homie you don't know shit about real racing and frankly neither does kart larper itt

                LMFAO with these IT dorks that think they're race drivers.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Post bread on kart

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                eternal kartgay will never post anything. because clearly one single paddock photo will get him gigadoxxed. i used to think him and the FC guy were the same but FC guy spams his videos because he just wants to get people excited about the sport

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Kek, engineer kartgay comes to seethe in /ccg/ occasionally and has never been able to produce bread in all the times I've seen him there.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thank God that mixup is taken care of, this is my first encounter with him. I've never met anyone this much of a prick at a track in real life. Assuming he's for real and not just LARPing to stir shit anyway.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I've never met anyone this much of a prick at a track in real life.
                Kek, this. Kartlarper is either the rich spoiled kid at the track that everyone hates and refuses to hang out with after races, or is a bitter larping gay that's done a couple races and claims to be a champ. Usually guys who are that shitty filter themselves out.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >like the night before the race my G27's desk clamps broke tru the base of the wheel and I had to strap it to the desk with bungee cords
                >but my computer couldn't hold 90fps in RF2 vr on the burgerking at night and also encode a stream despite rigorous testing otherwise so I had to cut it after a lap stabbing my eyes out at 23 fps.
                I'm sorry mate, but these issues sound like the most inconsequential whiny tech-nerd baby problems that have absolutely no consequences other than "darn, I'll miss this one virtual race." When you're laying in the dirt, stressing to put your suspension back together 30 minutes before the race and knowing that if you frick it up, you might die when it fails, then you'll get an idea of what goes into race prep.

                Holy shit, thanks 379 for making me re-read his nerd-ass post. Fricking crying because his VR only did 23 FPS, LMFAO I fricking do aerobatics in MSFS 2020 at 23 FPS in VR, you're a soft-ass baby that has no business in a real car. People that get motion sickness all deserve the rope, you're hopeless.

                God I can't fricking stand eSports, video games need to go back to being a fricking pass time. I've played video games my whole life and they're great, but taking it as serious as people have for the last 10 or so years is so fricking cringe I can't even put it into words.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                This time, I actually agree with you. That was a pretty fricking shameful post, kek.
                >b-but I know how it is to prep before a race!
                >o-one time I had to actually use bungee cords!!!
                >and my vr was only running at 23 fps 🙁
                Lmao.

                Data says I get sustained 2Gs on high speed sweepers when the aero is actually doing something other than just being drag. I raced a lot of go karts that pull high G force too, and there are old farts racing those as well. I've never seen anyone pass out, even in enduros when you're in the car for an hour or more.

                >are old farts racing those as well
                Can confirm. I raced 250 Nats for a while and there were some 70 year old codgers in my league that were actually pretty damn good. They'd usually fall off towards the end of the night though.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                again that specific game has a serious bug that reduces the frame rate in VR when there are lots of cars on track, in this case I was competing against nearly 100 other vehicles.
                flying around by yourself in msfs and getting 23 is just sad. Do you even use openxr?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >me not giving a shit about FPS is "sad"

                LMFAO, fricking nerd.

                "I was le competing against le 100 vehicles"

                Don't care, fricking do it you fricking weak stomach pussy homosexual. I used to play early 3D games at like 5 FPS, you don't even know what a low framerate is.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >early 3d games at 5 fps
                couldn't afford a Pentium? What a shame.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is a pretty good take. Sim (with other experienced drivers) is the best thing you can do short of actual seat time. I disagree heavily about sim taking as much organization and effort as real driving, because you've never known tired until you're scrambling all night with your guys to get a car prepped and end up driving a feature on 2 hours of sleep. But otherwise, this is pretty spot on.

                Who let these fricking Redditors in?

                The amount of cope I'm reading is unreal.

                Once again, I'm solely speaking about the physical brutality you experience driving in a race car that pulls 2G+ in corners. A wittle custom fitted seat or some seatbelts is not going to save you from the fistfight you will experience driving it, it literally beats the shit out of you. You clearly literally can't even comprehend it.

                Yes, UFC games aren't exactly fistfight training, but the point is it's the difference between watching someone get punched virtually and actually getting punched, you're not feeling the punches if you're not in the actual race car, the actual race car will kick your fricking ass.

                Get the frick out of your video game chair and actually get into one and you'll understand and apologize for this abortion of a comment chain. No amount of "WELL, AKTUALLALLY THE STEERING INPUTS ARE VERY SIMILAR" accounts for the raw physical ass kicking you will get in a real race car.

                Sim racing is a starting point for people that know nothing so they don't die or spend thousands while they're still completely clueless, but the best sim racer in the world is no more than 80% of where they need to be to actually drive a fast lap, maybe not even 50% if they're a skinnyfat weakling.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not who you are arguing with and I generally come down on the side of not wasting too much money on sim racing that could be spent on real racing but I find pulling over 2Gs laterally fun. It's a little exhausting but really not that bad at all. Even 70yos in ok enough shape manage, though they do sometimes complain when there is a full 30 minute race with no safety car breaks. If you are able to jog a 5K you are fit enough to pilot a formula car no problem. It is nowhere near as exhausting as boxing. I think some people get a little goofy about the "athleticism" of racing drivers.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                i think the hardest thing is not hitting mental fade after 15 minutes. driving 10/10 flawlessly for that long fries me

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're not a race car driver just because you've been qualified to solo by the instructor at your local HPDE club point-by meet. I can, without a doubt, guarantee that I have more actual seat time than you do in more cars than you've ever driven, and you're a gigantic homosexual.
                A race car does kick your ass (in varying degrees depending on what you're actually driving and the stint of your time on the course), but the pummeling you're describing doesn't happen in anything short of a proper mini-formula or a dirt sprint car. You sound like the kind of whiny homosexual that would get laughed out of the pits for crying about his sore arms after climbing out of a car during qualifying, kek.
                If you've had any amount of seat time beyond the instructor babying you around an open road course, you'd understand that sim is far from being a 1:1 comparison, but still has its benefits for learning car control when you can't actually get behind the wheel. If you quit seething like a goddamn infant, maybe people would take you more seriously.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >fighting for your life to stay planted enough
                lol i relax in hard braking zones now

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jimmy Broadbent sucks, or at least he did when he was sim-only. No idea what he's like nowadays.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just looked it up, he still sucks. Good god, just watched him driving the Nordschleife, what a hack, terrible steering technique sawing at the wheel like a toddler.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      no

      this moron only got a pr drive because he's an influencer

      Fair enough, I don't know dick about racing and skimmed his wiki article but it looked like his wins were disproportionately small compared to the hype / length of his career

      maybe i was the moronic homosexual all along

      he's mid at best and would have never got a factory seat if he was rich and didn't get in with gt academy

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Beating a bunch of F1 drivers at the first race of the sim invitational during the coof probably had nothing to do with it.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          of course not, he was used for pr, he's a mid simracer too

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pls no punterino

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The mulatto who stars in this is a piece of shit.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      So basically like 90% of the people who play games online.

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't the irl guy this movie was made about not really a very good driver?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have no idea. But playing a video game and driving a real car is so different. In a car you can feel the car slip on the road and when the engine revved out and needs to shift. Even the feedback in the steering wheel is important. None of that happens in video games.

      Could video games help an F1 driving? Yes, but only in very slim areas of driving techniques.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      jann maldenborough was literally one of Nissan's factory driver until recently, and his racing career is overall very successful

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fair enough, I don't know dick about racing and skimmed his wiki article but it looked like his wins were disproportionately small compared to the hype / length of his career

        maybe i was the moronic homosexual all along

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fair enough, I don't know dick about racing and skimmed his wiki article but it looked like his wins were disproportionately small compared to the hype / length of his career

        maybe i was the moronic homosexual all along

        Nah, he his a C lister at best. His Sim gamer to real driver peers preform similarly, but he gets the movie because he his brown and obnoxious.

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you are physically fit and genuinely good at racing sims, you have a chance.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If you are an absolute manlet with rich parents, you have a chance

      Actual men don't even fit in most top level race cars.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        that's not entirely true, there are some big professional drivers

        it's just that at the pro level the cars are built specifically around the driver and they don't exactly have seat sliders or anything... If someone needs to sub a driver then they need to find someone of a similar size.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Only in NASCAR where the base weight of the cars is heavier. Everyone in F1 or top professional GT cars is like 5'6" and 120 lbs.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Valentino Rossi is 5'11'', which IS tall for for a motorcycle rider, as most of them are built like a horse jocky, but he fit in Lewis Hamilton's F1.

            this lanky, galaxy-sized-balls, Isle of Man rider is 6'4''

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Motorcycles are different, in motorcycles being tall and light is the ideal body type as you can hang off more, which in turn gives you more cornering potential. Raw weight is still a liability, though. It's also shifting thanks to rider aids making high performance bikes easier to ride, so it's getting to a point that pure horse jockey is the preferred body type in that as well (Marquez). You'll notice Rossi's dominance diminished the second rider aids made the bikes easier to ride. Same thing that happened to Senna when adjustable suspension and some rider aids creeped into F1. Isle of Man is also just full-moron shit, I'm sorry, that's like running in front of busses going full speed and seeing if they stop in time, just get a revolver and put 3 bullets in it and pull the trigger 2 times and save everyone the trouble.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Isle of Man is also just full-moron shit, I'm sorry, that's like running in front of busses going full speed and seeing if they stop in time
                True. Literally the most dangerous sport in the world, but that's also why it's great. Guys voluntarily do it, and seeing top level skill with death a very real possibility is very rare these days.

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, be the son of a rich and famous soccer player with ins and get them to hack the game during the competition so you can win it. EZ PZ.

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    So these are high class racers?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes Max Verstappen is x2 and soon to be x3 F1 World Champion.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, don't expect amerimutts to know that.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        only for now, just you watch Logan is going to shine next year and eat max's lunch

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >first hour is just the protagonist getting all bronzes in the licence tests

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    don't be like that one guy who got accepted into the gt academy only to get rejected by medics with the wording "we're not even sure how you are still alive"

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Was he fat or something?

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lol this discussion.

    Guys, assetto corsa teach you how to drive the same as wiisport teach you how to golf.
    They are videogamey simulations and got 0 actual freeback.

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Whole lotta cagers and busriders acting like sitting in a chair and turning a wheel is hard work.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bike racing is pretty tough, but I feel like it's not harder than 4 wheel racing, just a different skillset. I've raced 250cc National karts and IMSA shitboxes, and the first time I hopped on a 600 around a road course, I was scared shitless. But in the end, you're not going nearly as quick as you are in an IMSA car and you don't have the G forces of a kart, so once you get the leaning dialed in, it's pretty manageable.

      >absolutely no consequences
      each car had 3-4 drivers with roughly 3 hour stints so if I couldn't race then nobody could take my place. Again, we were sponsored by real companies and there was an expectation that we finish.
      when you're tweaking your computer to get the most graphical horsepower and stability to make everything go smooth it begins to feel a lot like the kind of shit you have to do to a car for it to run it's best. Like sure you could run with sub optimal timing and alignment but you won't do very well.

      The fact you won't die just makes solutions to those problems easier to pick. If you frick up and wreck someone else because of your poor choice then you may lose your privileges of racing in that organization, which is worse than death depending on how seriously you take it.

      We prepped and practiced for months ahead of time, it's true we didn't have to deal with logistics at all so that makes things easier, and the cars don't break hopelessly so there's nobody crying in a sandpit, but other even crazier shit happens and you just gotta roll with it. One of our drivers had a bad off and hit ESC by mistake which immediately retired the car with no chance of returning. In sim racing your event can be ended by the dumbest shit, a single keypress, or a power surge in your house. I have a UPS specifically for this reason and part of my training regimen for racing is to drive like an absolute monkey to see how the car will behave when im 2 hours in and making mistakes.

      [...]
      shut up homosexual nobody cares

      If you're not exaggerating, this is a really sad post, dude. You take fake virtual racing way too seriously.
      >which is worse than death depending on how seriously you take it.
      Fricking lmao. Do you really value some virtual sponsorship more than your life? Fricks sake man.
      Honestly, the best thing you could to is get some real seat time in. Even some homosexual point-by HPDE day with an instructor in the car to get you out of the basement. Sim racing has its perks, yes, but you sound like a gigantic loser, my guy.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >virtual sponsorship
        no homosexual if you wreck people out and act like a turbohomosexual you don't get to come back to race with anybody.
        iracing for example has a great safety rating system that keeps bad drivers where they belong and some leagues have adopted similar technology.
        I have HPDE seat time and kart racing experience, the autistic examples you guys are giving show an extreme lack of experience with either sim or real racing and you're just grasping at straws.
        Actually do it instead of crying about it, you'll see.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          I can honestly say that I'm not part of the serious sim racing scene, you're right. But your insistence that it's at all comparable to actually being out at the track is laugable and completely illegitimizes any argument you have about its seriousness. I'm sure there's some genuinely serious competition and stakes can get high, but you whining about "wahhhh my clamps broke and I had to fix them 🙁 it's totally the same as fixing a real car!" makes you sound like the biggest fricking nerdy loser. You wouldn't last a day in the pits on an actual race day, kek. The biggest consequence you can incur on iracing is getting kicked out and having to start over, oh no! The biggest consequence you can face on the track is literally killing yourself or someone you're driving with. Definitely the same, you gay lol.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            So you have literally no experience with the subject and feel the need to opine anyway? Like no shit just firing up rfactor and hotlapping a track isn't like real racing, it's hotlapping. But racing an actual organized event against other people? Exactly like the real thing, just more fun because there's less logistical bullshit to worry about and safety isn't as critical as the competition itself.

            the biggest consequence you can endure in iracing is having to permanently drive with Davonte Stolencreditcardairius, cleetus jackson(2) and Iberio Ayrton Piquet Villeneuve Carlos Juan Julio Jesus Aguardiamente the Third
            which isn't much different than a Forza lobby so why pay? If you're shit, you are literally bullied off the service by the matchmaking system, it's great.
            In real racing you just run out of money and go back to working at Walmart no real hassle at all.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              So you have no experience with real racing but decide to opine anyway? Lmao. I have enough buddies that do the competitive sim racing thing to know exactly what goes into it, and insisting that it's even remotely the same thing as pulling on a fire suit, a hans, and strapping into a car is absolutely dillusional. Whatever helps you sleep at night though, mate. I'm sure the possibility of having to waste 15 bucks a month or whatever it is to race some Forza morons is the same as wrecking a $100k car, lol.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >it's not the same because you don't have to wear fireproof pajamas and a tourettes guy neck brace!!!!!!

                Hahaha holy shit shut up moron

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      45 degree lean angle is 1g lateral. you are not even at 45 degrees. you missed the apex by feet which is pretty impressive considering your face is right fricking there and you dont have to imagine the dimensions of the vehicle. did you consider turning in way earlier the next lap? probably not because if you clip that dirt drop you're dead

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only if you’re not a moron

  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you going to be able to frick like a pornstar by watching porn and fapping? No... Video games are just autism amplifiers. If you want to rot your brain away do drugs instead.

  13. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, you can't.
    But since you're not gonna become a world class driver anyway, you may as well do the next best thing, and play racing games.

    also, you will actually improve irl as a consequence. i learned how to catch slides in AC and i've used this skill irl to save myself from a crash. the funny thing is that it was 100% reflex, i was not even conciously aware of doing it. i only realized what had happened a few seconds afterwards

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      and this homie gets it
      if you're sitting there waiting to feel the slide in your butt you're gonna crash
      if you practice in sims and know what is going to happen before it does, you stand a much better chance of dealing what is otherwise unexpected. There is no better or safer place to train this skill than in a racing sim with a steering wheel controller. If one doesnt utilize the training tools at his disposal you're just fricking slow and no amount of coping about your "experience" irl makes a lick of difference.

  14. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well the guy this movie is based off of is not world class or even a very good or successful racing driver to begin with, so probably not.
    I used to be a simgay until I got an actual car. Nowadays I laugh at simgays and their coping.

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