So is Sonic just stuck with this little gremlin as a major character forever?
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So is Sonic just stuck with this little gremlin as a major character forever?
Yes you homosexual
The cycle through Eggman companion characters all the time.
I don't think Cubot and Orbot are going anywhere yet.
Awesome
>literally rei from evangelion but red
>even the voice actor is the same fricking one
She's white and blue now.
She's 2b Jr
Anyone else feel like the whole "father" "dear daughter" crap is wayyy too forced and OOC for Eggman?
I kind of like it, but it definitely came out of nowhere. If this game came after Colors and Lost World where Eggman was kind of less villainous it’d make more sense, but this is after Forces which was the most evil he’s been since Unleashed back in ‘08. Maybe getting BTFO’d after he thought he had finally won mindbroke him?
I think Eggman calling her kid would be more in character, with him sometimes slipping into daughter speak during private moments.
I feel Sage can have a good dynamic with the main cast. Eggman finally has someone who can roll off of him who doesn't want to betray him, flat out doesn't like him, or isn't entirely incompetent. Now I think to round out a trio, Eggman should have a person who is a self-proclaimed rival/one-sided rivalry that the two team up with every once in a while.
Sage can also have a cute dynamic with Sonic as in her programming she wants to destroy him, but also realises that Sonic is the only one who pushes Eggman to his fullest potential, and decides to hold back whenever the killing blow presents itself.
>kid
This. The whole "dear daughter" thing at the end was forced and gay.
Should've been "You did kid, I'm proud of you."
>You did proud, I'm kid of you
fricking kek
It is.
A lot of things in the game feel forced especially the references.
would you prefer if Sage called him “daddy”, and Eggman call her “cum dumpster”?
MY WICKED SON
>Blue Nike swoosh in her hair
They should sue lol
Silver is future Trunks and Infinite is that masked guy from Berserk.
I know no one cares about them, just note that Sonic series draws a lot of inspiration from existing franchises.
They also were quite specific in getting W's belt VA for the wisp announcer in JP.
>Infinite is that masked guy from Berserk.
wtf Infinite is a rapist????
Yes. Can't you tell by the fact Forces is fricked beyond repair?
Nah, Sage is an actual person instead of a human-shaped plot device.
Yes, but only because SoJ REALLY wants Japanese pedocoomers to like Sonic above everything else for whatever reason. Then again Sega's has rarely ever thought straight.
>waaaaaa waaaaa everything I don't like is pedos
have a nice day. you'll do everyone a favor, including yourself.
>"Agh! There are KIDS on the internet!! I must... protect them... from pedosss!!!"
You want more mobians OCs?
I want Honey
I really hope the next game her and eggman aren't in danger so we can see her being a smug brat helping her dead become supreme ruler of the world
I sure hope she doesn't get Maria'd
>generic conventionally attractive female
>is "le gremlin" because she's short
you homosexuals are moronic
>conventionally attractive female
>posts a picture of a scammer and con artist
what did anon mean by this?
>generic conventionally attractive female
not only is she not real, she's also a literal fricking child, not a bimbo who got the age of 16 slapped on by the autor but an actual child
>she's also a literal fricking child
And?
sage thread
sega thread
She's here to stay and I'm 100% for it
For at least the past 15 years, every Sonic game has desperately tried introducing a new character into the cast but every single one of them has failed in one way or another. Zavok, Infinite, Chip, the Wisps, Boom characters, etc. all of these fell by the wayside and even stuff from SA1/2/Heroes/Shadow/06 basically perma-wiped from the series up until very recently. There's zero way they're going to get rid of the one new character that people actually like.
>pander to furgays for 20 years, nobody buys
>pander to e-girlcons, everyone goes mad
Yeah they finally struck gold with Sage after failure after failure of new characters, Sage is here to stay.
Bring back Emerl (and to a lesser extent Gmerl) you fricks
Remake Battle
And the Advance games
Frick you
Is it bad that if they have Ian fricking around now, I wouldn't mind a game bringing back a lot of characters with a hub again, closing off little side-stories and arcs for characters long irrelevant? Gemerl still is an important result of Eggman's work, it'd be interesting to see him playing with Cream again or getting to interact with Sage, and everything's been so LIKE A LASER BEAM MY EYE'S ON YOU narrow on isolated plotlines since 2006.
it seems like they're setting that up honestly, morimoto keeps creaming his pants over sonic adventure on twitter and they set up a plotline where each character is going to have their own arc from frontiers, and now they're testing the waters with new playable characters (and hopefully using the feedback to make tails and knuckles more fun)
i dont know how much of the extended cast they'll use though, whatever business execs decided sonic friends weren't popular enough to use seems to be more welcome to bringing back the main few in a bigger role, but i'm not sure they'd feel the same about bringing back literally who the squirrel
I'm still immensely curious about those bits of Tails' flashbacks in Frontiers where the screenshots are blatantly of some modded or upscaled Adventure 1. I doubt they're remastering it proper, would've announced something like that months ago frankly, but I do feel like something is going on, just probably not anything I'd care about at this rate.
was there anything to that? i thought it just ended up being a painting or a filter or something
Yeah the whole "everyone is going on their own adventures" after Frontiers feels just like how Adventure 1 started.
>tails
>more fun
is that even possible? flight is antithetical to platforming.
>Amy suddenly having magic Tarot Card telekinetics
Frick she could've clapped the groping robot in SA1 way the frick sooner lol, where did this bullshit even come from?
Ian Flynn
They wrote some bullshit about how Amy can't use her hammer in cyberspace
Why? For what purpose? Too violent? She still uses it in the new Sonic games thats coming out.
They're trying to take Amy in a new direction.
They probably feel the reliance on the hammer will make Amy feel too much like her obsessive fangirls stalker role during the Pre-Mania days.
I'm just glad he's still somewhat relevant, maybe one day he'll show up in the games again.
>G-merl telling the reader why he'll never show up again
Great stuff. He wasn't even in Rush, the one game after Advance 3 where it would've made sense to see him again given that panel.
>he chose to stop being a world ending killer robot and instead protect Cream & Vanilla
He's literally me
Frick I miss Emerl
>desperately tried introducing a new character into the cast
>Infinite
>Chip
They both come and go in the game that introduced them though.
Isn't Infinite stuck in like some kind of Cyberspace after Forces, I kind of forgot.
Unless Infinite never had the true Phantom Ruby with him, or Eggman tied him to it, as far as the story concerned that fricker is permanently dead after the ruby got destroyed
Both Lost World and Forces were intentionally vague with their villains' fate in case they wanted to bring them back later. Remember how the Deadly Six just poof out of existence in gameplay and stop being acknowledged in the story? Infinite dematerializes but it's never definitively stated he's dead after removing the Phantom Ruby.
Zavok could have worked well as Shadow's main villain. In fact, the entire Deadly Six could have been Shadow's thing, but since Sega is terrified of Shadow ever having a main role again, juggling seven characters in a side plot would be a bloated yet rushed mess.
Why can't she go into the shit box with Infinite and Cream?
In hindsight somehow an anime daughteru character is the first mostly-accepted humanoid as a main individual this series has had since the fricking 90's that isn't a reskin of Eggman, unless you really wanted to frick certain Sonic X girls
She's the Bowser Jr of Sonic so yeah. There will likely be times where she's just off to the side but I expect her to show up often.
ToT
It would be pretty based but I am not that fathfull in Sega.
Man, Knuckles' wall climbing feels just as janky as Sonic 06 but in the exact opposite way. Instead of being glued to the wall, he goes off at the slightest touch of the stick and hitting any boundary bumps him off. It's particularly hard to get him to behave when hitting a wall from a max ring glide, it just incentivizes me to find ways to skip as much of the challenges as possible.
I hope you set your deceleration rate up to 100 at least to fight the moronic bug of everyone being turbo slippery at anything lower
Yeah, that's not an issue and I can pull off really precise moves. It's just Knuckles who isn't as reliable due to his moveset, I also like having the max ring glide but it makes it really hard to stop and land on a floating platform compared to how easily Amy and Tails can do it.
God I hope so
Where do people get high res versions of the Sonic Channel art?
Anyone know if there's plans for a patch? Final Horizon is fun for the most part, but it feels like it wasn't playtested enough with the constant zig zagging difficulty curve. I feel like they have to be looking at player feedback and watching for the parts that are most complained about, particularly the boss rush.
>waiting for a balance patch
You didn't beat the game.
#
Only counts as beating it if done on Extreme
I haven't got to this meme counter yet, just finished exploring the island at the beginning with Amy/Knuckles/Tails. I'm playing on hard and have zero intention of dropping it down, wish me luck.
Gl. It's a 60 frame parry in Easy, 12 frames in normal, 8 frames in Hard, and 4 frames in Extreme.
I'm bad at explaining, but this is the strat I did in Extreme:
Giganto: begin with cycloop and spam stomp until his health stops draining/your quick cycloop bar is filled. He'll begin phase 2, you'll start by doing a quick punch and stomp once followed by an immediate quick cycloop. This time he'll try to punch you in the air, you can avoid it by spamming parry a couple times and then holding right while spamming right sidestep. Spam stomp to finish the fight. Usually takes 24-26 rings.
Wyvern: You can avoid having to parry the missiles if you hold boost and avoid the missiles by moving around the screen in wide circles. Holding boost will make you reach up to Wyvern quicker. Parry his first swipe. I used pause buffer on this fight. Atferwards you'll do 4 punch and stomp attacks followed by an immediate quick cycloop. Spam punch and stomp until you transition to the 2nd phase. On second phase avoid missiles same way and parry the two swipes. This time you'll attack beginning with a Spin Slash (X). Near the end of the spin slash, sidestep (R1/L1) and immediately hold Square to do a Cyclone Kick. Near the end of that move when you see that its done most of uts damage, sidestep again and immediately hold Square again to do another Cyclone Kick. Keep repeating that and with good timing you'll hit the first QTE. Afterbthe QTE ends do the same thing by starting a Spin Attack and using that to spam Cyclone Kick. If you time it well and spam it quick, you'll do enough damage to make it to the final QTE skipping multiple parry sections meaning you only need to do 3 parries for the whole fight.
Knight: You'll need close to 200 rings to beat him parryless. Begin fight waiting for him to attack you. You'll dodge by boosting away from him and to the side. Next boost back to his head and spam sidestep and stomp. Repeat by sidestepping after the stomp hits and stomping immediately after the sidestep. He may try circling aroud, just side step left if he tries counterclock or sidestep right if he tries clockwise. For phase 2 you'll spam Sonic Boom. You'll place Sonic in the perimeter of where he circles around and spam Sonic Boom the whole time to avoid parrying his shield. The Sonic Boom will lower your altitude eventually enough to avoid his shield projectile. But if you get too low you may miss Sonic Boom shots on him. Tap or let the button go to raise altitude. If you're not low enough keep look out for his shield and dodge of necessary. Eventually his health will drain enough causing the final QTE to begin winning you the trial in Extreme.
>4 frame counter
Jesus. I'm getting EMMI flashbacks from Metroid
Just develop precognition, bro.
>he isn't clairvoyant
>finally finished Update 3
Holy frick that ending. I'm so glad I somehow didn't get spoiled despite somewhat lurking in the threads while playing. This is what they can do in a couple of months for a free update with a messy base? The next game better fricking deliver. There is no reason for it not to. Mostly everything about this update was great, they just need to refine it. It was funny how they brought back the original Supreme fight and made it unbelievably easy though, but it still fricking sucks. While I loved the Ikaruga fight and The End's edgy monologue (always preferred a really cool but simple final fight to a really hard but uncool one) I think I might prefer this one. Maybe if there was a part where it switched to the instrumental version of I'm Here and The End was monologuing again it'd be even better...?
I was just like you. I ended up eventually lowering down the difficulty. It is absolutely fricking braindead how bad it is, mostly because of the no rings refill between bosses. If that wasn't here, the perfect parry might've been fine... You can always switch it back afterwards so it's fine.
We'll see how it goes. I've accompished extremely hard tasks in the past through sheer stubbornness.
beat it on hard after several hours, here were my strats
Giganto:
>parry his first spin, and his slap
>move in and spam the stomp
>parry all his spins and claps from here on out
>finish with ~330 rings
Wyvern:
>parry missiles, quick cyloop, spam stomp, this takes you to the second phase in one cycle
>repeat, try to hit the tail parry so you can one get him in one more cycle but if you don't it can still work
Knight
>literally just boost into him and spam the stomp as much as possible until phase 2
>you can do this with about 140 rings (or less if you're really tight and you hit the spiky thing into him consistently)
ended up finishing with like 100 and something rings to spare when i finally did it
>go through the islands to 100% everything before going to the update
>fun enough, dragged on a bit because did it before
>get to update ouranos
>giddy the entire time, every character has awesome mobility
>get to tails
When I watched the gameplay trailer, I thought the Cyclone would be used for quick air dashes. No, it just fricking gives you full flight on top of Tails' own.
I saw an image of Tails in the Cyclone and I was filled with dread, expecting some continuation of SA2 gimped-Gamma ass mech controls. I flew up twice the height of the trial towers in like 2 minutes and I've never been happier.
Cute!
And funny!
They better be. She's hot as frick.
>Sonic military from the Coldsteel pic became canon in Forces
>Sage is a canon version of Omelette/Eggette
>Pissing on the moon was Frontiers' final boss
What will Sonic Team draw insipiration from next?
The Director said he wanted to see Sonic 2 after finishing up on the DLC, so we're getting even more combat focus, maybe Knuckles will be a protagonist again, maybe we might actually get Super Eggman.
Honestly thinking of and rewatching the final boss, Perfect Parry isn't a problem at all, even on Hard. The problem is that the original titans are NOT designed with it in mind. For the new boss it works perfectly fine and adds a little bit of tension. They just need to not have awfully telegraphed attacks like the other titans.
Final boss is fairly easy. Only has a couple moments where you actually have to perfect parry and it's only the max ring decreasing spheres. They're pretty telegraphed and easy to react to. This extreme mode video doesn't look hard
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Now, Wyvern was not made with perfect parry in mind. You're often guessing the acutal hurt window of their attack because it's really not clear. And fricking the parry sets you back a ton of rings or puts you all the way back to the start
Cut every Sonic character besides these ones:
>Sonic
>Tails
>Knuckles
>Amy (unfortunately)
>Shadow
>Rouge
>Big
>Eggman
>Sage (so that he has someone to bounce off of who isn't those annoying robots)
I don't see what Big brings to the table
Small cameos.
Orbot and Cubot are based
Frick Sage
>Frick Sage
Yes.
This improves her character design.
No way, flat is better.
Um metal sonic? Also Blaze because she's based and Omega because he's fun and part of team dark
>Cut Blaze
>Keep Amy
>Keep Big
>Keep Sage
Frick you
>No Omega
don't cut out anyone except for maybe the deadly six
the shit about too many characters always was a derranged troony complaint
I hope so, it's good to add something to mix up an old franchise
With how Sonic Team is? Most you'll get is her being a playable kart character
She will replace Orbot and Cubot
We can only hope.
Zavokbros….It’s over….
imagine glazing those legs with your seed.
just imagine man, ponder it for a second, consider that possibility, picture that image in your mind if you will.
I only just noticed Eggman bought several pairs for her to pick and let her wear the ones she liked thats a cute detail
Playable Sage when?
OK ILL PLAY YOUR BLOODY b***h GAME SIRS.
Honey
well it should
I hope she keeps the design she has in this pic instead of the blue non-glitchy one. I know it doesn't make much sense as she wouldn't be corrupted by cyberspace anymore but it just looks better
More AI e-girl shilling hot off the presses.
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