Microsoft offered to partner with Sega and the Xbox would have Sega label (they wanted it to do well in Japan). Sega thought Dreamcast would be enough. Microsoft worked with Sega already on Dreamcast but Sega didnt want to look overtaken.
it's been 20 years since the Xbox 360 and sonions and tendo tots are still coping with being obliterated by it? I thought they'd gotten over that generations ago.
The fact that the 360 had the primary developers for PC target it meant its library crushed the PS3, I have both and games of that generation were mainly written for the Xbox and ported elsewhere (including PC). Its probably the best game library in gaming history short of the PC,. The wii is not part of the conversation because it was a lump of crap for tards not a competitor
Imagine being proud of owning any console. PC clears and has been winning since 2008. Get fricked troony no amount of poorgay cope will change that. Good riddance, now only Sony needs to leave so innovators like Nintendo can remain with PC dominating the market for good
>Imagine being proud of owning any console. PC clears and has been winning since 2008.
Most of the games of that era for the PC were written for the 360 and ported and they were buggy on PC and better played on the 360. This is fact not speculation.
You forgot >started strong but roped themselves with a shitty addon
for 360 and Mega Drive
projection
Imagine being proud of owning any console. PC clears and has been winning since 2008. Get fricked troony no amount of poorgay cope will change that. Good riddance, now only Sony needs to leave so innovators like Nintendo can remain with PC dominating the market for good
>PC clears and has been winning since 2008
????
Were you even alive? 2008? Every PC developer had switched to console at that point except for Valve and Stardock. PC was hemorrhaging series, like TES with Oblivion, to consoles faster than Xbox is dying now. No one was playing anything on PC besides grinding in a declining Runescape and running dungeon finder all night in a likewise ailing WoW. It took a few more years and indie games taking off through digital distribution for PC gaming to be resuscitated.
360 was the best console of its generation, basically where gaming peaked a decade ago before it went to shit. Do you even play games OP? The N64 was not impressive either, it was a pile of shit that only special needs kids had. As with the 360 the PS1 and PS2 (and teh PC) own the rest. Everything else is irrelevant and you understand the relationship between teh Xbox360 and teh PC don;t you OP? You are nto fricking moronic?
To be fair, the Xbone was way more successful than the Saturn in NA, albeit much less successful in Nippon.
The Dreamcast was discontinued after less than 2 years in NA, yet had way more games than the Series and PS5 have after like 3 and a half years.
MD outsold the SNES in Europe, somewhat equal in US, with SNES outselling MD during the early Saturn years since the SNES was better supported during the generation jump, and was vastly outperformed by the SNES in Japan.
I see so portal, dead rising, dead space, mass effect or bioshock or borderlands or gears of war etc etc are not as good as golden axe. Take your fricking meds.
Well you can't read a thread or posts or maybe you are just a tech illiterate who does not understand that Microsoft supplied the dev kits for both 360 and windows as well as the driver architectures and that devs wrote for the 360 first but since you would rather be a tard fanboy than actually know what you are talking about, plus you can't fricking read, I'll leave you to bullshit about techy and games and consoles you know nothing about,. Assume you are some braindead ninpaedo
The PS3 was the ultimate winner of 7th gen because it actually carried its momentum over into 8th gen and beyond. 360 and Wii both started the marathon off to blazing starts but by 2011-2013 they were both completely gassed out and that impacted them next gen.
>The PS3 was the ultimate winner of 7th gen because it actually carried its momentum over into 8th gen and beyond.
I wish I could agree with you and certainly teh PS1 and PS2 are the kings of their eras but the XBox simply ran most of the games better because it was the develo9pment target for most of the multiplat PC games as well. PS3 was a b***h to develop for and suffered from it.
>Wii U
Underpowered, bad marketing, bad tablet gimmick, hard to code for. >XBone
Forced a camera into your living room that always had to be connected to the internet. No worthwhile exclusives.
All Sony had to do was make a more powerful PS3 and that’s what they did.
Saturn was at least popular in Japan and was going against PRIME PlayStation, and the Dreamcast was amazing. Xbox has had so much time and money to get their shit together and still didn't.
360 also won 7th Gen. No matter if Sony eventually did pick itself up and also how the second half of 360 games lineup sucked Xbox still won by riding the waves of $599 and actually making games for that first half. Xbox sacrificed everything to make the 360 win the war and they did it, but ultimately just ended up dooming themselves later.
Strategy:
Sega - antithesis to Nintendo
Xbox - antithesis to Playstation
Killer App:
Sega - Sonic, lasted about 10 years
Xbox - Halo, lasted about 10 years
Only One Hit Console:
Sega - Genesis, undermined by CD and 32X waste, failed in succession by Saturn
Xbox - 360, undermined by killing Halo Online, failed in succession by mandatory kinect
(both successor consoles notably didn't have killer apps and failed completely to pick up on previous momentum)
Last-ditch effort and legacy:
Sega - Dreamcast games like SA1 are considered classic and were successful.... when ported to GC
Xbox - The 'Dreamcast' of Microsoft is not the Series X, which is just a continuation of their less-bad Saturn comparison....
The legacy of Microsoft will be PC games becoming a solid third of all gamers from here on out; they will put exclusive GAMES on them, pulling players away from PS.
The original xbox didn't do so good?
Because we're comparing it to the success of ps2? It still sold nightly well, you seriously need to word your meme properly.
Wasn't the Xbox the result of a deal between Sega and Microsoft?
no, but they were planning for it to have Dreamcast back compat
Microsoft offered to partner with Sega and the Xbox would have Sega label (they wanted it to do well in Japan). Sega thought Dreamcast would be enough. Microsoft worked with Sega already on Dreamcast but Sega didnt want to look overtaken.
it's been 20 years since the Xbox 360 and sonions and tendo tots are still coping with being obliterated by it? I thought they'd gotten over that generations ago.
what? the 360 sold worse than the Ps3 and Wii
The fact that the 360 had the primary developers for PC target it meant its library crushed the PS3, I have both and games of that generation were mainly written for the Xbox and ported elsewhere (including PC). Its probably the best game library in gaming history short of the PC,. The wii is not part of the conversation because it was a lump of crap for tards not a competitor
>he's STILL coping
Imagine being proud of owning any console. PC clears and has been winning since 2008. Get fricked troony no amount of poorgay cope will change that. Good riddance, now only Sony needs to leave so innovators like Nintendo can remain with PC dominating the market for good
Trying too hard
>Imagine being proud of owning any console. PC clears and has been winning since 2008.
Most of the games of that era for the PC were written for the 360 and ported and they were buggy on PC and better played on the 360. This is fact not speculation.
weak bait, would've been good if you split it in half and into two separate replies though
>360 obliterated the Wii
>85.7 million vs 101.6 million
???????
>185.7* million isn't a higher number than 10.6* million
The absolute state of illiterate toddlers
comparing the wii to a PS2 or 360 is like comparing a discount mobility scooter to an Audi or a Mercedes.
You forgot
>started strong but roped themselves with a shitty addon
for 360 and Mega Drive
projection
>PC clears and has been winning since 2008
????
Were you even alive? 2008? Every PC developer had switched to console at that point except for Valve and Stardock. PC was hemorrhaging series, like TES with Oblivion, to consoles faster than Xbox is dying now. No one was playing anything on PC besides grinding in a declining Runescape and running dungeon finder all night in a likewise ailing WoW. It took a few more years and indie games taking off through digital distribution for PC gaming to be resuscitated.
Someone who knows.
for frick sake. piss off you fricking ninpedo moron.
why so mad?
are you a sonic fan by any chance?
Sega had two consoles prior to the Master System.
360 was the best console of its generation, basically where gaming peaked a decade ago before it went to shit. Do you even play games OP? The N64 was not impressive either, it was a pile of shit that only special needs kids had. As with the 360 the PS1 and PS2 (and teh PC) own the rest. Everything else is irrelevant and you understand the relationship between teh Xbox360 and teh PC don;t you OP? You are nto fricking moronic?
>x360
>lost the console war
It sold worse than both the PS3 and Wii
>It sold worse than both the PS3 and Wii
This is a misleading statement.
It dominated the PS3 in North America.
>360
>lost the console war
I'm a die hard PS Triple lover but even I recognize the 360 was the more popular console
The frick are you morons on about
To be fair, the Xbone was way more successful than the Saturn in NA, albeit much less successful in Nippon.
The Dreamcast was discontinued after less than 2 years in NA, yet had way more games than the Series and PS5 have after like 3 and a half years.
Game Gear 1990 - Saturn 1995 was what killed them.
Way too many consoles, that's what killed them.
most of these are the same console in a different shell, it's like saying the Famicom and the NES are different consoles
>Mega Drive/Genesis
>THE console for shmup lovers that gen
>360
>THE console for shmup lovers that gen
Nah sega actually made good games
>Nah sega actually made good games
You don't play games do you. At least not in the last 30 years
did the Genesis really outsell the SNES?
MD outsold the SNES in Europe, somewhat equal in US, with SNES outselling MD during the early Saturn years since the SNES was better supported during the generation jump, and was vastly outperformed by the SNES in Japan.
funny since the SNES won in the long run
everyone (in the retro circle) talks about the SNES but no one tlaks about the MG
>in the retro circle
Holy frick bro. Is that an epic wojak pownage?
It was $50 cheaper.
Difference is Sega had good game.
I see so portal, dead rising, dead space, mass effect or bioshock or borderlands or gears of war etc etc are not as good as golden axe. Take your fricking meds.
All on those games are on PlayStation and/or PC.
Well you can't read a thread or posts or maybe you are just a tech illiterate who does not understand that Microsoft supplied the dev kits for both 360 and windows as well as the driver architectures and that devs wrote for the 360 first but since you would rather be a tard fanboy than actually know what you are talking about, plus you can't fricking read, I'll leave you to bullshit about techy and games and consoles you know nothing about,. Assume you are some braindead ninpaedo
That's why Xbox failed. Keep crying.
The PS3 was the ultimate winner of 7th gen because it actually carried its momentum over into 8th gen and beyond. 360 and Wii both started the marathon off to blazing starts but by 2011-2013 they were both completely gassed out and that impacted them next gen.
>The PS3 was the ultimate winner of 7th gen because it actually carried its momentum over into 8th gen and beyond.
I wish I could agree with you and certainly teh PS1 and PS2 are the kings of their eras but the XBox simply ran most of the games better because it was the develo9pment target for most of the multiplat PC games as well. PS3 was a b***h to develop for and suffered from it.
>Wii U
Underpowered, bad marketing, bad tablet gimmick, hard to code for.
>XBone
Forced a camera into your living room that always had to be connected to the internet. No worthwhile exclusives.
All Sony had to do was make a more powerful PS3 and that’s what they did.
Saturn was at least popular in Japan and was going against PRIME PlayStation, and the Dreamcast was amazing. Xbox has had so much time and money to get their shit together and still didn't.
360 also won 7th Gen. No matter if Sony eventually did pick itself up and also how the second half of 360 games lineup sucked Xbox still won by riding the waves of $599 and actually making games for that first half. Xbox sacrificed everything to make the 360 win the war and they did it, but ultimately just ended up dooming themselves later.
No Sega was good
xbox did great and the 360 won the war when it mattered.
Germany did great and won the war when it mattered.
More similarities:
Strategy:
Sega - antithesis to Nintendo
Xbox - antithesis to Playstation
Killer App:
Sega - Sonic, lasted about 10 years
Xbox - Halo, lasted about 10 years
Only One Hit Console:
Sega - Genesis, undermined by CD and 32X waste, failed in succession by Saturn
Xbox - 360, undermined by killing Halo Online, failed in succession by mandatory kinect
(both successor consoles notably didn't have killer apps and failed completely to pick up on previous momentum)
Last-ditch effort and legacy:
Sega - Dreamcast games like SA1 are considered classic and were successful.... when ported to GC
Xbox - The 'Dreamcast' of Microsoft is not the Series X, which is just a continuation of their less-bad Saturn comparison....
The legacy of Microsoft will be PC games becoming a solid third of all gamers from here on out; they will put exclusive GAMES on them, pulling players away from PS.
Gamecube was a pretty successful hardware sale, if you count all the Wii's that had GC in them
>there are boomers in this thread right now who are still stuck in 2006 unironically believing the 360 sold better
It's time to move on, gramps
The original xbox didn't do so good?
Because we're comparing it to the success of ps2? It still sold nightly well, you seriously need to word your meme properly.