So... just started playing KH1 and it seems really cool, but I'm already wondering... what's the next step? I mean, I suppose it's Chain of Memories, but which one? Help me, bros.
So... just started playing KH1 and it seems really cool, but I'm already wondering... what's the next step?
PS2 and GBA are the same plot. PS2 is more of a remake with better hardware.
>PS2 is more of a remake with better hardware.
And an additional phase of the final boss.
so its an upgrade. there it is folks.
The final final boss theme is fricking fantastic
There's also an additional boss in Riku mode where there was only a cutscene before.
A bunch of new attacks.
Some new cards based on keyblades and charcters from later games.
Riku mode has a new battle mechanic.
Yes, but don't lie, it made the game way easier in 3D.
Re is better in every case
One of the few cases where the GBA version is actually better.
It looks like it's literally just a compressed video file of the PS2 cutscene.
GBA has better gameplay while PS2 is prettier
>what's the next step after Kingdom Hearts 1?
Kingdom Hearts 2.
Then Kingdom Hearts 3.
Only play the spin-offs if you really like these games.
Ignore the people who say "but the story won't make sense!", it doesn't make sense under most/all circumstances.
>Only play the spin-offs if you really like these games.
Kingdom hearts HAS no spin offs they're all main games that have important information for numbered titles.
Especially chain of memories which is vital for KH2
>all main games that have important information for numbered titles.
Except Re:Coded.
okay, except re:coded
I think most people are safe to skip that one.
It is still really fun though. Except the turn based battle dungeon. That sucked.
Coded sets up why Dream Drop is happening and furthers the "reviving the Wayfinder trio" plotline.
Plus the gameplay is mostly fun. So one should try it anyway.
Literally all you need to know about Coded is that Mickey sent a letter filling in the Destiny Islands crew about the Wayfinders and that they should probably do something before Xehanort pulls more frickery. You're really not missing too much without it story-wise.
Agree about the gameplay though
that's one of the few fun ones
if you're going to play any of the portable shit, it should be re:coded
Absolutely nothing of relevance happens in CoM. Further, what little does is largely summed up in the prologue of KH2.
Just skip to 2, OP.
>Absolutely nothing of relevance happens in CoM
NTA and that's not true at all.
It directly follows from the end of KH1.
It kills off half the Organization (if you skip to 2 you'll wonder why they call themselves "Organization XIII" when there aren't 13 of them).
It introduces DiZ.
It introduces Axel.
It introduces Namine.
It sets up Riku's character arc for the rest of the franchise.
It establishes Riku's and Mickey's friendship.
It explains why Sora's recovering in a pod and a year older in KH2.
And Castle Oblivion is important in BBS.
Days and Coded aren't all that important but COM absolutely is. If you want to skip it because of the gameplay or whatever that's fine but you should definitely look up a plot synopsis, maybe watch the PS2 cutscenes on YouTube.
Yeah CoM is skippable but awy more important than Days.
Now DDD and BBS, those frickers are not skippable at all
2's prologue doesn't hit the same if you didn't play CoM
I don't think it hits at all. You have no context for who the frick any of these people are or what's happening.
>Ignore the people who say "but the story won't make sense!", it doesn't make sense under most/all circumstances.
this. even after playing the entire series, the story is a clusterfrick of nonsense.
you will find more coherence in the ramblings of a schizo than you will in kingdom hearts.
that said, they're fun games that play if you turn your brain off and don't give a frick about the story
This is true I actually enjoyed the begining of 2 more because I didn't play com.
It was very cool and mysterious.
If you ONLY play the first game, the series is a 10/10 masterpiece. For every additional game you play, the series loses points as a whole.
If you INSIST on playing more games, do as this poster says
Why are you a gay homosexual homosexual?
going right into chain of memories after KH1 seems like a bad idea.
even though CoM has new plot points, essentially youre going through KH1 all over again.
The PS2 version has KH1 level of grafics and controls, but the GBA version has better gameplay.
Just play KH1 and 2 and then drop the series forever. There is nothing of value outside those two, the series went way too far up its own ass
not to mention completely abandoning final fantasy, one of the main reasons to even play the series
Iirc the FF characters were intially because they had no KH characters. They were effectively filler characters. As the KH cast grew the FF characters didnt fit in.
the kh characters are dogshit compared to the ff characters, no one who played kh1 played it for the OG characters, they played it for Disney and FF. They completely alienated half their fanbase because of OG character autism that no one asked for
You're not wrong. Everyone agrees KH fell off because they went Deviantart tier with OCs.
>Everyone agrees
I don't. KH's primary issue is that the recent games haven't been able to properly pace out their stories and end up incredibly backloaded. The OCs are fun.
They aren't able to pace the stories because of the OCs.
KH2 got a low score from IGN if you actually read the review they were complaining about OCs back then and still now.
>They aren't able to pace the stories because of the OCs.
That's not the reason and you know it. KH3's story is 99% disney filler shit that backloaded all its story to the last 3-4 hours. The issue is that the games keep ending up in dev hell having to appease both Disney and Squeenix.
That would explain why there was never a world based on a FF game
>There is nothing of value outside those two,
Birth By Sleep is the best game in the series.
No.
I never played CoM. I just jumped straight to 2 then BBS then 3.
play CoM watch Re:CoM cutscenes on youtube
baragay
I'm not sure why I clicked on this thread since I hate Kingdom Hearts
But I didn't expect to find anything more repulsive than Kingdom Hearts itself
>LOL ENJOY UR PCSX2 INPUT LAG FGT
I dont have any input lag though. Is this a skill issue or something?
PCSX2 had noticable input lag on everything that wasn't KB+M for years and i made that image before i realized i was still using PCSX2 1.4.0
I see
Input lag hasnt been an issue for me on any emulator so I was a little puzzled
I only have an issue when I hook up my computer to certain tvs with HDMI
>BBS
>questionable gameplay choices
It is the best game in the franchise by a significant margin
you people are fricking morons
>BBS
>best gameplay
Ate you stuck in the year 2010 or something?
he's right you know, only DDDgays will claim that BBS is a bad game because they were mindbroken by the time travel replica nonsense and petting over 50 pokemon to death
>DDD single-handedly made KH3 even more convoluted and raped even more character arcs that ended in KH2 than any other side game.
>being this mad that I'm already part Xehanort
cmon guys
I'm not, the series ends when the trio are reunited on the island.
I wouldn't go that far but as someone who played it at release on PSP I thought it was pretty good.
Opinions on BBS didn't really turn sour until the HD collections came out, because new players didn't have the context of it being a PSP game. It's arguably the best game on PSP if you don't care about Monster Hunter. It was a huge step up from the previous handheld titles in terms of recreating console KH's style of gameplay and visuals, even if it still didn't quite achieve full parity. I also enjoyed the command system despite it being broken as hell, and the story did a good job of re-contextualizing KH2's bullshit (though the dialogue and cutscene direction wasn't always stellar).
And yes I enjoyed DDD too even though its story was very messy and the dream eaters were kinda lame. It has my favorite end boss sequence in the whole franchise to the point that it undermined KH3's ending.
>remind is better than 3
oh it's one of those guys
Gameplay wise, yes, Re:Mind is better than 3.
kh3 is a 25 hour game with like 3 good bosses
re:mind is a 5 hour game with about 15 good bosses
Big gay moron chart.
The collection is literally laid out in order. So long as you know that 2.8 is greater than 2.5, you will be fine.
The only "issue" that comes about playing in the listed order is literally just 358/2 being put before KH2. That is the only thing you need to specify. Otherwise, it is as simple as this
>1.5 + 2.5
>2.8
>3
Done.
Here is what I'd recommend:
Get the KH Collection
Play KH1
Play CoM
Play KH2
Watch the 358/2 Days cutscenes (or play it, but you better enjoy Agrabah)
Play BBS
Watch the Re:Coded cutscenes (although I heard the gameplay is good)
Play DDD
Watch the Union Cross short video (if you want a summary) or watch all the Union Cross cutscenes online (if you really want to get deep into it)
Play 0.2
Play 3 + 3's DLC
Watch the MoM cutscenes
Watch the Dark Road cutscenes
Then watch all the Just a Pancake videos
>Watch the 358/2 Days cutscenes
Watching the cutscenes is objectively worse than reading the manga
have a nice day homo
I really don't get how people can't understand the story of KH. Its really not that confusing minus the KHUX stuff which is pretty (not entirely) irrelevant so far.
>I really don't get how people can't understand the story of KH
you dont really understand it either, you just think you do.
Kek, it's a mashup game, the plot was supposed to be functional and didn't matter if it was a bit ridiculous but devs realized the public actually took the game's story seriously so they didn't know what the frick to do for sequels, because there was no way of doing a cohesive and meaningful story that wasn't ridiculous enough. At the end of the day, the whole canon tries to be deep and polished but it's just a mess that apparently succeeds at looking like it wasn't the very first thing that came to their minds.
GBA plays better due to the mechanics being tailor made for the system. Its not bad on the PS2 but its not as smooth and can feel janky at times. PS2 does have another phase for the final boss that is pretty fun along with another new fight too, and the voice acting throughout the game is fantastic. There as some small changes to the script between the two versions too so its not a bad idea to play both if you end up liking the game and its playstyle.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I didn't like chain of memories PS2 version
they just slapped the card system on kh1 and it's just annoying to do attacks and get wienerblocked by your card having a low number
You can play CoM if you like, though it doesn't play like the other games and the important parts of its story will be recapped at the start of KH2. Play KH2 and stop there. The million spinoff stories in the other games range from merely off the rails to batshit, making less sense each iteration with a connections chart that could provide work to a yarn factory for a decade, and none of it ultimately means anything. Some entries stand out a bit more from a gameplay standpoint, but be aware they won't help you much if you're invested in the main story. As for KH3, it's the logical place to go after 2, but prepare for many levels of disappointment.
tl;dr - You played 1, so play 2 and then forget the series exists. You will be happier.
Just stop now. The other games are all shit.
Isn’t this a pedophile game?
How so?
It's basically disney, but videogames
Every videogame is a pehophile game.
Test post
that video clip on that GBA version must've taken up most of the cartridges space
Chain of Memories, either the original (GBA) or the Re:Chain of Memories (remake). It is probably better to play the Re:CoM because it has slightly more content (I think there is additional cutscenes and extra cards you can unlock). The gameplay is different due to the change in perspective (top down view vs full 3d), but basically the same game otherwise.
I prefer the GBA version.
Original GBA version has its own spritework whereas Re:COM recycles KH1 and KH2 models which makes it feel less novel, especially if you're playing it right after KH1. Re:COM feels exactly like KH1 except you're weighed down by cards, which doesn't feel good IMO. Re:COM also has some major balance issues, human bosses are super easy to cheese. I also think that COM's more humble presentation leaves more to the imagination than Re:COM's. Dudes in cloaks standing in empty white rooms works better with sprites on a small GBA screen than it does in full 3D with voice acting on PS2. Re:COM didn't add enough extra detail to the environments to make them feel like proper spaces so a lot of scenes come off as awkward.
Though they're both repetitive games, I wouldn't call the original a 10/10. However I liked COM's story more than KH2's, simultaneously simpler but more mature. And despite not being a numbered game it is still fairly important to the larger storyline.
>oh good a KH thread
>its full of secondaries and maybe 2 or 3 actual fans
everytime, here is the truth
>CoM is KH2
>KH2 is KH3
>358 and BBS are KH4 and 5
>Coded is irrelevant but Recoded is cool, KH6
>DDD is KH7
>KH3 is KH8
>MoM is KH9 (or dont count it just like coded)
If you skip to the number games might as well dont play this series
KH ends at 2.
You are just trolling
>I wanted KH3, Re:coded and mobile phone shit! DA LORE
You are a buckbroken stockholm victim.
Let's be honest, Days doesn't matter. All you need to know is that Xion exists. Otherwise nothing important happens, besides stuff you already know from KH2.
Yeah, but it feels like a full installment to me (in a handheld kind of way)
You can skip it I guess but missing on Xion is kinda dumb
>its full of secondaries and maybe 2 or 3 actual fans
That's every Ganker thread
i played all of them
most are shit and the story is a waste of time
also you would need to play a bunch of facebook games and watch a 2 hour cutscene to follow kh3. and you missed 0.2, secondary.
Release order, always and GBA version is way better. The game's combat was designed to be played on small maps. The PS2 version made the maps extra large forcing you to have to chase down enemies
GBA, but honestly, why would you ever play that crap?
>Kingdom Hearts 1
You are here.
>Chain of Memories (either one)
Optional. Try it out and if the card game mechanics don't click, just look up the cutscenes online. Most of the game is recycled assets and filler.
>Days
Worth checking out. Has a neat little upgrade system and you get to go on missions and shit. A good change of pace.
>Re:Coded
Optional. Not a bad game but it doesn't move the plot forward in a significant way. Look up the cutscenes.
>2 Final Mix
Generally considered the best game in the series. Make sure to pick proud or critical mode for maximum enjoyment.
>Birth By Sleep
Also optional. Has a bunch of multiplayer centered design choices and a strong emphasis on synthesis if you're into crafting autism. It will feel like a downgrade from 2 gameplay wise but some people like it. Worst case scenario, look up the cutscenes and skip it.
>Dream Drop Distance
Another game with emphasis on side mechanics, this time a Pokemon-like thing. VERY important plot wise.
>the mobile games
Just look them up online, it's not worth the hassle. Extremely important to the plot btw.
>Fragmentary Passage
AKA Nomura's 8 hour explanation to Mickey Mouse's red pants. Think of it as a chapter 0 of 3.
>3
Beat it and them the DLC.
>Kairi's game
Filler. Optional game.
Watching cutscenes for CoM is fine but you should probably try out both versions first and see what you like. I prefer the GBA version cause I like the sprite work then the reused asset work of Re:COM but your opinion could be different so you should definitely try out both if you can.
Funny thread