So let me get this straight... This game is just Modern Warfare 2 (2022) but with the maps from Modern Warfare 2 (2009) and actual ZERO new content added? And people are okay with this?
Original MW2 maps were not even good, arguably the worst part about the game lol.
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people who play Modern Warfare 2 (2022) haven't played Modern Warfare 2 (2009) and people who have played Modern Warfare 2 (2009) don't play Modern Warfare 2 (2022)
This might be the only possible explanation for why someone would buy this game yeah
Hey I play Modern Wardare 2 (2022) every now and then, and I played a shitton of Modern Warfare 2 (2009) back in the day. Heck I replayed the whole Modern Warfare (original) series just last year
I'm not buying Modern Warfare 3 though
Can't help but feel just releasing MW2 Remastererd Multilayer with tiny tweaks for controls etc would have been much better. MW3 feels awkward as hell.
I didn't even try the demo honestly. I somewhat regret purchasing mw2, too, but that's mostly because all my friends moved on and I'm the only one left who still plays
Couch co-op on ps3 with them is one of my fondest memories
I hear you, I didn't dig MW2 but I got my time out of it, MW3 is strangely bad, Vanguard vibes but this seems alarmingly rushed and shoe string, even for COD.
>And people are okay with this?
I mean yeah probably this series has been on a yearly release for almost 20 years. Also this
played shitton of MW2 2009
played shitton of MW2 2022
gonna play shitton of MW3 2023
you little theory is false, cope
>Shit eating consoomer cattle thinks hes people
cute.
sorry I'm not playing yet another Gankereddit approved™ troony indie fotm
>nonsensical response
Did I insult your worship of current product?
just using your own subhuman language on you
what, don't like it?
In what way? I didnt say anything like that. Do you think consumer cattle is a Ganker phrase or something? Youre playing a remake of a yearly title that was shit on for being yearly slop wjen the original came out and youre tying to act like youre above anyone else. Enjoy your gaas mtx hellhole I guess.
So true sis, you enjoy your Gankereddit approved™ troony triple a foty
To their credit, they made it in 6 months and the beta has pride flags.
those are the same gays that were in mw22 they just carry over like all your shit from mw22 proving that it's literally a $70 expansion for the same game
the movement is really good now, its more like 2019 with a higher ttk. the spawns are dogshit and some weapons are undertuned. NOTHING feels overpowered.
Got frick all to do with MW2019, it's Vanguard 2.0 you doof.
i didnt touch vanguard at all.
Lucky
>moronic attachments for ww2 weapons
>NO factions for a WW2 game
these were huge redflags to not buy it. but i kinda wish they used the 10 point system for attachments that always seemed ridiculous in a fun way.
It had its cool bits, but overall it was pretty terrible for such big studios. Very poor decisions, I don't trust those guys with MW3, they (sledgehammer) just aren't good game developers.
>they (sledgehammer) just aren't good game developers
They have never made a genuinely good entry in the series
They know that they cant bring anything to the table they are very definition of "soulless" studio that has its "identity" behind "actually listening to community". Basically even they realized they are just fifth wheel so they just try to copy paste shit in safest way possible while also listening to complaints but only to selective ones obviously from homosexualy ecelebs and "influencers". They are essentially support studio now because WW2 at least had its own base not taken off any other game like their last two games were. They legit just fricking gave up on making own games after WW2 and essentially became support studio that shits out fully priced DLC's made fast and in most safest way possible.
I thought WW2 was ok. Nothing to write home about but serviceable.
The changes here suck. I don't get how they fricked up "MW3" TWICE but Infinity Ward should just handle the trilogy if they re-reboot it again.
>NOTHING feels overpowered.
Black person what? Have you played against non braindead Striker and Sniper users?
the sniper is kinda busted, but the striker is only good because the other weapons are like 5 shot kills most of the time
Its not "kinda" busted anon snipers are insane in this game because for some reason they have no flinch and games long TTK. This games meta is going to be fricking cancerous as frick especially because MW2 weapons are going in its going to be dropshot snipers galore lol. Its so moronic that they give you jump ads penalty which is good but then let cuckolds just lay on the ground without any penalty whatsoever so game will revolve around sliding into prone shooting.
What I don't get is why it doesn't feel or even look as good as MW2019.
Games are made by people. People leave sometimes.
even the worst Warzone 1 maps are better than anything from Warzone 2.
losing games in Warzone 1 was more fun than winning in Warzone 2
IW put actual effort into the animations and how the guns feel in MW2019. Sledgehammer games made MWIII, who also made Vanguard. The guns all feel like toys and they have copy pasted sound effects.
Lead animator was the same guy who was the lead for Titanfall 2. The main reason 2019 added multi stage reload animations
cw was fun throwback to arcade black ops days at least with peak zombies mode
We need a moratorium on Call of Duty
It has a campaign, right?
>It has a campaign, right?
🙂
What do you mean heres no new campaign?
still preordering it
dont care
when will they add musk in the game
I want to know about gunfight.
This cutthroat mode doesn't feel like it with its regular maps, choose your loadout, health regen.
they just repurposed that champion's hill mode from vanguard
>activision has infinite money and can make whatever they want
>it's even the 20 year anniversary for cod
>should we make something new and original?
>nah dude let's just reboot the mw series with mw19 lmao
>new story is ass but gameplay is top tier
>make a sequel with mw22, which can't hold a candle to OG mw2
>then announce they're making mw33, which is the real mw2 reboot
i finally did it, i don't care about the new cod game
>Call of Duty's 20th anniversary
>could make something cool, like Call of Duty 1 remastered in style of MWR or MW2CR, while actually supporting last year's COD, like they promised
>nope, it's a literal rehash of last year's MWII, with rehashed original MW2 maps
>have WW2 Price skin for the 20th anniversary
I would unironically be happy if they had a single launcher like they have going forward with three base titles, just give us maps, weapons, game modes and operators
-one WW2 era
-one 60s/70s/80s Cold War era
-one Modern Warfare era
and just continue to update and add to each title every year, with an individual base getting a big content drop on a yearly rotation
no more individual titles, no more future shit with jetpacks, robots and Kevin Spacey
and fricking phase out Battle Royale
oh, and make a COD Zombies seperate release that gets monthly and yearly updates also, round based only
No. I want games to have their identity.
Sledgehammer already put modern assault rifle in Vanguard along with sci fi guns and for nu MW3 weapons from Advanced Warfare are pretty much confirmed, not only by leakers, but they even found them in beta's files.
>Sledgehammer already put modern assault rifle in Vanguard along with sci fi guns and for nu MW3 weapons from Advanced Warfare
Kevin Spacey battle buddy gun attachment when?
Yeah okay frick that.
>and fricking phase out Battle Royale
Not happening. That's the most popular mode for them.
>no more individual titles,
That's what "Call of Duty HQ" on Steam is. And it fricking sucks just like the NuBattlelog UI did for BF4.
I'm gonna guess without looking, €70?
no, free on Gamepass
Next year, maybe, big maybe.
If Microsoft want to, they'll add it at launch, unless there's some snoy contract that stops them from doing so, which is probably the case. But the 2011 MW3 should be on Game Pass in like 2 days.
Pretty sure Activision or Microsoft already confirmed it's not going on gamepass at launch
Activision did, days before they were officially owned by MS.
Just like the Blizzard guy said Diablo IV wasn't coming. It obviously is. They were just saying that as in "please buy our game, we're not part of Microsoft yet"
Notice they said "We have no plans".
The only thing stopping MS from putting Diablo IV on Game Pass this week are contractual obligations they have to honor, if there's any. We'll find out soon.
Ah okay, I didn't realize it was before the official merge
A lot of Activision old CoDs are still broken especially on PC. MW2019 for example has fricked matchmaking a bit,they legit smoked 40% of content they added from rotation like Ground War has only 3 maps when it had 9(!!),game is currently crashing while loading to campaign,a lot of console gays cant even play it at all because somethings fricked with game packages and more lmao. Vanguard has insane packet bursting to a point where games unplayable in EU and other certain regions,Cold War STILL has security problems too. They need to fix their shit before putting those games on gaypass so i assume this will take a while. I geniuenly hope they will fix MW2019 because i still play this one becase a fact they straight up deleted like almost half maps from all rotations in matchmaking especially in ground war is moronic shit was and is scummy as hell.
Part of the buyout is a 1 year non-Gamepass day one. Partially to get around Sony's objections and finish the contract ATVI had with them.
Wish I could shot every single imbecile that makes this kind of post. Frick you, moron!
I am. I am mostly interest in the campaign but I also enjoy the multiplayer and I personally think that MW2 is one of the games that had the best multiplayer maps so that's fine by me.
why they didnt just add the 2009 maps when 2022 launched is a moronic decision
MW2 was going to be a two year game, these maps were made for it, but Bobby and his pals at Sony wanted to cash in before Microsoft took over, so they rushed this through in a few months.
Reportedly they're going to repeat the same thing with next Black Ops.
Next year's Black Ops is set in the 90s, and the second year Black Ops is going to be Black Ops 2 maps.
>Next year's Black Ops is set in the 90s
>90s
was hoping they’d keep a buffer between COD era’s, 90s is too fricking modern
The 90s ended nearly a quarter of a century ago. There are certainly some interesting conflicts they could weave a story around. Iraq, the Balkans, a multitude of civil wars like Somalia, Rwanda etc
Activision will never be cool enough to let me play snd in Hotel Rwanda. Its going to be something safe and gay like blaming Desert Storm on the Russians.
>aim assist - the FPS
its literally true for every single modern fps game
like the apex champion or whatever switched from mk to controller because the aim assist is just too good
Sony would have sued if MS delayed this COD. They'd cry profits.
I like ground war. needs more ppl though. Make it 128 players
>arguably the worst part about the game lol.
No, that was the bugs and balance. But #YouTried
I'm still waiting for Modern Warfare II to be cracked. I just want to play the campaign once, I don't care about the multiplayer.
the campaign had some decent levels
Any absolutely KINO operators in MW3-23 like sledgehammer put in Vanguard??
Unique to MW3? Makarov I think?
Otherwise its all the ones from MW2 are ported too
So this saucy sexy feminine minx is in the game?
>two free armor plates
lol they added literal pay to win shit to this garbage and moronic double digit IQ baboons still play this?
>Original MW2 maps were not even good, arguably the worst part about the game lol.
lazy bait/10
Name 5 MW2 maps that were better than just "okay"
Honestly I think I'm okay with them going all in on older content this time around because otherwise I feel like this game shouldn't exist due to its otherwise b/s status as an expansion-turned-full-release.
Pretty gay how you have to choose between gameplay or graphics in these games
Why can't they make one that nails both? Probably because then nobody would buy sequels anymore.
Theres a reason why they fricked up MW2019 so much and deleted half content they added to it. People would just play that game despite its flaws.
> this fricking conspiracy again
Iw are incompetent , they keep proving it time and time again and u morons still think they sabotaged that game. Just look at mwII filled with bugs, crashes and shit performance.
As someone who never bought MW3 or either of the remakes; I do sort of want to complete my trilogy after all these years thusly:
>Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (2007)
>Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (2009)
>Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III (2023)
>new zombies looks like ass
what was the last decent zombies game? i only played world at war
Cold Wars zombies are fine/good overall. Vanguards are insanely dogshit.
Black Ops 3
The game was supposed to be a DLC (old-school maps) for MWII (2022). They promised "two years cycle", but ultimately said "Frick it. Here's your new $70 new game."
Just don't buy it. It was supposed to be a glorified map pack. Nothing more, nothing less... until greedy and lies tool the best of them.
>They promised "two years cycle"
Source? Straight from Activision, not some gay gamejourno site.
Its insane how its 70 fricking bucks lmao. Ive seen braindead redditors making comparison to old MW3 but people dont remember that old MW3 actually had brand new maps,weapons and perks while this shit is just copy paste of MW2 with some Vanguard here and there.
are these 1:1 remakes of MW1 MW2 and MW3 or are they naming them that to lure in oldgays
Not totally 1:1, but really close. The open beta is going rn bro. You could just download it a try it yourself. The game is actually pretty fun.
Lure. Weapons are not the same, equipments are not the same, perks are not (and work) the same.
Not even the maps are the same. They're using MW2 maps, despite tittle saying "MW3".
Sort of 1:1. Though Favela feels weird. I think they changed the orientation up from what I remember.
>MWIII was always meant to be a new game not DLC
>"why is MWIII entirely made of MWII maps? kinda weird huh?"
>b-because it just is okay?!?!
The last couple years of COD have sucked so much wiener that the improved movement and old maps make MW3 worth the $70.
>Preordered.
This game is awful
They got rid of everything i actually liked about nucod
Guns don't feel like guns and shooting people doesn't feel like shooting people
High ttk incentivises warcraft mmo dps race fights where all you do is stare at each other like turrets despite the increased movement because if you are moving, you're not shooting and if you're not shooting, you're not getting dps in. There is no point in trying to play off angles or play reaction time and don't even think about trying to challenge anything while on low health. In fact, don't even think about holding the angle while on low health. Just run away because if you don't recover your health you're just gonna lose the fight anyway because it is physically impossible to kill an untagged guy before he kills you if there is a health diff due to high ttk making reaction time meaningless. High ttk also incentivises team stacking which is just plain unfun in cod
Weapon balance is awful. Literally only like 3 guns are even worth using because most of the other guns just physically do not have the ttks to keep up (mw22 had very tight weapon balance for what it's worth)
I am indifferent to movement changes because it doesn't change as much about the game as you think it does. People jump peek anyway just like in mw22 so it plays mostly the same
Also 20 tick with permanent packet burst is awful and i don't know why activision thinks these servers are fine
>Guns don't feel like guns and shooting people doesn't feel like shooting people
huh?????
The ttk changes are better. Cod was never a reaction time shooter and the increased movement allows you to win those 2 v 1 fights despite being tagged.
Headshots also mean something again, rewarding more accurate shots. The last year of just aiming down sights on an angle until someone pushes has sucked ass. Maybe play rainbow or something.
>The ttk changes are better
You die in under half a second
That is not fun
Its the longest TTK in years, dunno wtf youre talking about.
Sure you can do that, but not in ranked. All you'll get is an even k/d and lose the objective.
>Its the longest TTK in years, dunno wtf youre talking about.
Lol it's not and if it is, you really can not feel it at all
Either didnt play cod this year or are blind.
Even
this moron will tell you the ttk is much longer.
You could make these complaints about every cod except last years where they tried turn it into a reaction shooter. The changes are being welcomed by the vast majority of cod players, and the sales will reflect it.
I played mw22 and mw23 beta and the TTK is ridiculously low
You get killed in under a second
Maybe there's a rip in the time-space continuum where you are.
Mhm sure
Ttk and ttd are not actually the same thing in most games (including cod)
Annoying ttd tends to be caused by poor netcode or unreliable servers such as 20 tick with permanent packet burst activision servers
time to kill = time to die
you see = 5 shots
killcam shows you = 2 shots
the servers have been fricked for fricking ever
More like
You see = 2 shots out of nowhere and the guy seems to have almost prefired you
Killcam/server recollection = enemy kills you with 5 shots and normal reaction time while you're just standing there with a thumb in your ass for 10 seconds because the lag compensation is moronic
and that is the point i report people and loudly accuse them of hacking
im certain activision is doing this on purpose
Activision uses the cheapest servers possible so to compensate there's a permanent delay of around 15 seconds. Who it benefits is random and connection based. Why zoomers play this literal goyslop is beyond me.
>. The last year of just aiming down sights on an angle until someone pushes has sucked ass
as opposed to uhm i dont know the call of duty series? where since cod 1 you just camped in a corner aiming down sights on an angle until someone pushes? lol
The increased movement does not help you win 2v1 fights because the ttk is long enough that you will always just get focus fired regardless of what autistic dance you're doing because you're not actually that much harder to hit anyway. Sooner or later you're gonna have to ads and sooner or later you're gonna have to actually start shooting back. Preferably sooner if you want to kill even one of the guys instead of just killing neither because they have literally twice your dps. Also the headshot multiplier has been literally halved. 1.4x was somehow already too high for cod players so it is now 1.2x imagine if cod had something like idk a 4x headshot multiplier maybe then the game might actually be somewhat skillful
I dunno I did find that the changes mean that SMGs and other close range weapons are much worse in close quarters, but I never really felt the "DPS race" because TTK is still quite fast compared to say Overwatch. It does make one-shot weapons like snipers more powerful than average though.
Sometimes it feels like the only fights you experience in a match are those 5 shot vs 4 shot fights where both people hit all their shots but 1 person just hit the first shot first and wins on a basically formulaic basis because there is nothing the other guy can do due to already being behind and they can't even disengage a fight they know they will lose because they are already just adsed and shooting
Well you're supposed to get a whole new game's worth of guns and a new campaign (though the campaign appears to be just a big pack of singleplayer missions based on the Warzone map... talk about recycling)
Also one of the guns even in the beta was in MW2019, I mean it's the exact same model, they just made it a bit bluer (which looks like shit)
I will say I do find it a lot more fun than MW2(2), but $70 is steep. I might buy it during the holiday sale they always do
Eh they said the new maps will come with the seasonal updates. Honestly Sledgehammer to their credit is at least better at map design than Infinity Ward but actually fixing MW2 maps is sacrilege.
Really most people are just banking on the Warzone updates bringing back Rebirth and adding Zombies.
microsoft should just combine every cod studio into one and just push out a game ever 3 years,at this point all of them are working on whatever current game is out anyway