so much this. gaming laptops aren't a bad deal like they used to be

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gaming laptops aren't a bad deal like they used to be
they are powerful and well built from the manufacturers instead of pieced together by some amateur
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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    im not going to listen to a fricking THING that someone who puts his name on blog posts for money has to say

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    have a nice day

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shitty bait thread
    Gaming laptops are memes and always will be
    Don't bother replying to me, you have already lost every argument against this simple fact.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >thermal throttling out the ass
      >shitty low power consumption parts
      >no upgradeability, you're lucky if you can upgrade the ram on them these days
      >tiny screen, shitty keyboard, still have to carry a mouse around with you because playing with a touchpad is awful

      I own a gaming laptop. Please don't fricking pretend that it's the right choice for everyone.
      I needed a single PC I could bring with me so a laptop was the better choice but I won't act like this is going to be everyone's use case.
      It is worth mentioning that the majority of people who read that article probably lack the technical ability, tenacity, and troubleshooting skills necessary for PC building (and don't give me that Lego building meme bullshit because you know that doesn't apply to the average moron) so in that regard this is probably decent advice for many

      >laptop breaks
      >can't even replace the parts
      yeah nah op is moronic

      you're all posted outdated information from gaming laptops from 10 years ago
      MODERN laptops don't have these issues and you're just fooling yourself and wasting money and time by going by these outdated concepts

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >breaks down
        >can't replace parts
        how exactly did it solve the problem shill?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >MODERN laptops don't have these issues and you're just fooling yourself and wasting money and time by going by these outdated concepts
        Acer is still using cheap Niko mosfets.
        ASUS is still making low quality VRM designs where they die all the time because their gimmick all in one VRM chips.
        Lenovo just sucks cooling wise.
        HP is HP.
        Dell still has moronic DRM on the charger and cooling its meh at best.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I fix computers for a living, Laptops are the worst.
          Lead free BGA was a mistake that makes all laptops unreliable then there are the badly designed VRMs without cooling in 90% of the laptop that will throw 19v to the CPU once they fail killing the CPU or GPU for good.

          look at this kino cooling

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not exactly "kino" but its not bad, SSD is lacking cooling but i like the M2 splitter.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >DRM on the charger
          What the frick even is this?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can only use chargers from Dell, no 3rd party ones.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Wait, so their laptops have no usb c charging options at all?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                They limit it to 65w or at least used to

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            DRM in places you don't expect isn't new.
            HDMI is literally DRM and degrades quality if it's not sending to an approved display.

            >High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) is a form of digital copy protection developed by Intel Corporation[1] to prevent copying of digital audio and video content as it travels across connections. Types of connections include DisplayPort (DP), Digital Visual Interface (DVI), and High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI), as well as less popular or now deprecated protocols like Gigabit Video Interface (GVIF) and Unified Display Interface (UDI).

            >In order to make a device that plays HDCP-enabled content, the manufacturer must obtain a license for the patent from Intel subsidiary Digital Content Protection LLC, pay an annual fee, and submit to various conditions.[5][6][7] For example, the device cannot be designed to copy; it must "frustrate attempts to defeat the content protection requirements";[7] it must not transmit high definition protected video to non-HDCP receivers; and DVD-Audio works can be played only at CD-audio quality[7] by non-HDCP digital audio outputs (analog audio outputs have no quality limits). If the device has a feature like Intel Management Engine disabled, HDCP will not work.

            You will own NOTHING.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dell will limit the speed to the lowest possible (Usually 400 or 800MHz) and will refuse to charge the battery if the EC/Super IO doesn't detect the charger ID.
            Note that the charger ID chip dies all the time inside the charger and in the motherboard.
            Also the cable used for the chip is like 32 AWG so it breaks all the time.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >DRM on the charger
              What the frick even is this?

              Dell also has DRM on which SSDs and RAM it will allow on modern systems.

              Spoilers: It's unmarked Crucial parts.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes laptops definitely don't have very limited space for airflow
        you stupid c**t

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        i have a 2022 gaming laptop. it cooks itself so bad i cant even play newer games the laptop can run

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Laptops are shit but you might want to try changing the thermal paste.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Alright, I'll bite. What modern laptops are we talking about specifically? Any particular brand that stands out?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The silence speaks loudly

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >two rams
        >one removable, the other soldered
        Yeah no.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it's not the best possible thing
        then it's shit

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just make cold calls if you want to drive sales, homosexual.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >launch game
        >15 minutes later
        >thermal throttling
        have a nice day

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        If anything they're even worse now since everything generates more heat lol
        Those moronic cooler-stations can't save them either.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >thermal throttling out the ass
    >shitty low power consumption parts
    >no upgradeability, you're lucky if you can upgrade the ram on them these days
    >tiny screen, shitty keyboard, still have to carry a mouse around with you because playing with a touchpad is awful

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    ah yes the world famous pc building expert dave merklehein

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why would someone call themselves a 'PC building expert'? It's like a skill you can pick up in an afternoon, all that cable routing and fan placement autism/elitism literally doesn't matter.

      Literally every nontrivial aspect of existence takes more knowhow than building effing PCs. Like fixing your bike.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Strange. I've built 3 computers in my entire life, and the only issue I ever had was my CPU fan dying

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same and usually you just need to put oil in the fan which i bet 99% of people don't know about.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      excellent

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    > I'm moronic so everyone else should wear moron hulk gloves just like me!
    How do you break a desktop beyond pouring water on it? It's not difficult, literal children build them, 90% of the peices just snap in and everything comes with a manual and online video guides even my grandpa could follow.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I assume he bought AMD

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's more common with new builders, they assume all electronics are created equal and have no frame of reference on reliable brands. Therefore they buy the cheapest parts and are shocked when caps pop or some other consequence of cost-cutting kills their system. If you have the OCD you can avoid that stage by thorough research, but in any case someone who supposedly has 20 years of experience should know how to build for reliability.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      he has a closed loop water cooler, that's a huge failure point right there.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thats just water...right?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            where do you live that has opaque green water?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, refrigerant is often dielectric.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              where do you live that has opaque green water?

              >Water cooled system
              I thought it was gamer water

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he doesn't cool his system with mountain dew

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >makes anime noises as it squirts

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          never understood why people like to use fixed piped instead of loose hose, not only is every single joint a potential failure point, you also increase the stress on said joints with fixed tube

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Be honest with me Ganker. Is water cooling actually worth it when shit like this can happen?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Liquid cooling has to be the biggest moron trap I swear
        There is no reason a nonprofessional consumer would ever need, let alone benefit, from one

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, I can see the advantage of it: temporary spikes in cpu activity are absorbed better by the water and dont cause fans to speed up/slow down because your cpu has crossed a fan curve point for a moment (which is something I've had happen a lot with my 3900x until I changed fan curves to basically ignore any minor spikes in temperature until 70c or higher for 5 seconds), but the comparable failure points are just too high for me to consider it properly.

          >pump failure isn't something you can immediately notice, and is pretty much guaranteed to occur, probably within 5-6 years
          >mounting it wrong kills the pump much earlier than normal
          >water leakage can just kill everything
          >performance degradation due to inevitable liquid evaporation

          Compared to a standard ass cpu cooler where if a fan is on its way out, it's usually noisy as frick, and chances are you cpu cooler has 2 fans on it anyway so it'll still be cooled, just worse than before with an easy fix. In saying that, I've had noctuas running for almost a decade straight and they still run just fine with no failure in sight.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I own a gaming laptop. Please don't fricking pretend that it's the right choice for everyone.
    I needed a single PC I could bring with me so a laptop was the better choice but I won't act like this is going to be everyone's use case.
    It is worth mentioning that the majority of people who read that article probably lack the technical ability, tenacity, and troubleshooting skills necessary for PC building (and don't give me that Lego building meme bullshit because you know that doesn't apply to the average moron) so in that regard this is probably decent advice for many

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >laptop breaks
    >can't even replace the parts
    yeah nah op is moronic

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >breaks down
      >can't replace parts
      how exactly did it solve the problem shill?

      I’m not OP nor am I a laptop gay but wtf are you talking about lol

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >gaming laptops
    Literary for schoolers. Here, let me list a few reasons why gaming laptops suck dick hard:
    >Tiny ass monitor built-in along with your lap, constrain yourself to low height since that monitor can only be set along the table, no arm or monitor stand to adjust it.
    >Anytime you use high-power applications, it'll heat up all components, including the keyboard because the manufacturers trade good ventilation and cooling capability for mobility aka you gimp yourself.
    >Hence parts and components will wear down faster since they're all way overheat and throttled.
    >Then parts and components will break down, needs replacement which you have to go to the manufacturers of that laptop's brand directly. Replacement from the aftermarket is hard to come by and likely with a short cycle time in production.
    There are just a few points. I can go on and on about how hard and limited to upgrade compared to a normal PC.
    GO FOR A REAL PC AND BUY A NOTEBOOK FOR SCHOOL STUFF, LAPTOP GAMING IS A SCAM.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      *always, frick me.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I fix computers for a living, Laptops are the worst.
    Lead free BGA was a mistake that makes all laptops unreliable then there are the badly designed VRMs without cooling in 90% of the laptop that will throw 19v to the CPU once they fail killing the CPU or GPU for good.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >MODERN laptops don't have these issues and you're just fooling yourself and wasting money and time by going by these outdated concepts
      Acer is still using cheap Niko mosfets.
      ASUS is still making low quality VRM designs where they die all the time because their gimmick all in one VRM chips.
      Lenovo just sucks cooling wise.
      HP is HP.
      Dell still has moronic DRM on the charger and cooling its meh at best.

      I also fix shit for work

      WE had this come in years for bad screen
      kid just got another laptop and i took it amazing laptop but it was 3000 MSRP

      >have to learn how to fix electronics
      >have to buy tools to fix electronics
      >risk breaking parts
      >risk death by electrocution
      No thank you.

      Bait

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I fix computers for a living, Laptops are the worst.
        Lead free BGA was a mistake that makes all laptops unreliable then there are the badly designed VRMs without cooling in 90% of the laptop that will throw 19v to the CPU once they fail killing the CPU or GPU for good.

        >MODERN laptops don't have these issues and you're just fooling yourself and wasting money and time by going by these outdated concepts
        Acer is still using cheap Niko mosfets.
        ASUS is still making low quality VRM designs where they die all the time because their gimmick all in one VRM chips.
        Lenovo just sucks cooling wise.
        HP is HP.
        Dell still has moronic DRM on the charger and cooling its meh at best.

        forgot pic kino lapppy

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          i have a raider ge76. I play Elden Ring a lot on it.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        cado looking sexy

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gaming laptops are fricking shit
    >tower breaks
    Okay, ill fix it and replace this part, back to work
    >laptop breaks
    youre fricked unless you have the means to fix this niche piece of shit, and the parts are harder to get

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i have NEVER had a desktop 'break' (out of 5 total)
    i have had EVERY laptop break within 3 years (out of 7 total, 4 if you only count gaming, non-work laptops)

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >after my rig broke
    Monkey brained Black person, opinion invalidated

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    lol what is this shittop propaganda? it's infinitely smarter to pay money for something you can actually fix on your own.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >have to learn how to fix electronics
      >have to buy tools to fix electronics
      >risk breaking parts
      >risk death by electrocution
      No thank you.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        it takes like an hour to make sure none of those things are problems. can you tie your shoes?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        you sound like a moronic consoomer who has never built a PC before.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      To fix a laptop you need:
      Bench PSU: $40-500
      Soldering station: $50-500
      Hot air station: $100-400
      Good flux(Real amtech flux not chink vaseline): $20
      Multimeter: $20
      Leaded flux: $10-50
      Thermal camera: $250-1000
      Replacement parts or Donor boards: $1-10 per part and a week or month waiting for it to arrive.

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >i've spent 20 years failing to learn how to build pcs

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, I don't think I will.

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    or get a clue and learn how to build desktop pcs yourself.

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    literally the only reason you'd want one is that you're constantly on the move/do not have the means to carry a desktop computer when moving places (somehow?)
    it's very simple logic that the reduced, packed build of a laptop comes with huge drawbacks that cannot just magically be poofed out of existence

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    ITT: Cope

    I bought a 2017 Gigabyte GAYMING laptop for about 650 quid in 2018 because the salesman in the store wanted to off-load the one he was using and get the latest model on his staff discount. I've had 0 problems using it aside from the HDD eventually dying and needing to be replaced, which took less than 10 minutes. The 1060 6GB and i7 6700K have both held up surprisingly well despite being downgraded due to laptop specs and I'm only just reaching the point that I need to upgrade now. When I'm at home I just plug it into a cheap 23" 1080p display I got from Facebook marketplace and use a normal mouse and keyboard. When I'm visiting friends in other cities or moving to a new country (done 4 times since buying it) being able to put it in a normal backpack has been incredibly convenient compared to needing to worry about shipping an entire case+monitor+peripherals. There is no reason to buy a desktop PC unless you are desperately concerned about price:performance ratios and are utterly convinced you will not moving within the next 5 years. As such unless you have a mortgage or are a NEET you'd be remiss to not consider a laptop, especially considering how overpriced GPUs are at the moment.

    PS: Upgrading for Starfield and Darktide, but mainly looking forward to the jump in performance that 7 CPU generations and 3 GPU generations will bring.

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have gaming laptop and the biggest problem is CPU heat

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      undervolt and turn off boost
      it will last 7+ years

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't care about it lasting 7 years, but some games start stuttering after couple hours.

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I bought this last night

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >3060

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >3060
      >laptop one at that
      going with those integrated graphix amd chips would unironically be just as good

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Huh, laptop 3060 is actually almost as good as desktop version, of course it depends from laptop to laptop because they have different clock speeds.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally outdated 2 years before you bought it

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        What should I have gotten for $1200 with 2 tb of storage, 32 mb of ram and a 3060 RTX graphics card?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think I still have that ancient wallpaper somewhere

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Should i buy a legion 5 with 3070? The come with ryzen5/7. I want to buy, but at the same time i think they should drop in price alredy, since 40xx cards are out already.

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    My gtx580 build is still going strong at my grandparents place. CPU cooler is a closed system and still work fine. Haven’t opened it up since I built it.

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I bought a cheap gaming laptop for around 600 Euro but only to use it for emulating old games up to PS2 and gamecube. Not interested in modern games.

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    show me a laptop that has
    >8TB+ NVMe
    >128GB RAM
    >GPU performance on par with a desktop 7900 XTX/4080
    >7950X3D or better CPU
    >doesn't overhead like a motherfricker under any kind of load
    >less than $4000
    then maybe I'll consider it
    can't break the laws of physics, which dictate that a desktop will ALWAYS be better

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No further comment required.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Just stick the cpu in
      >Why doesnt this work
      I knew journalists were morons, but surely he could have worked this one out

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        To be fair, doing that with a simple bios settings reset should be all that's required, no?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, all he'd have to do is download the latest bios from the manufacturer site, f12/del into bios, install the update then install the cpu. Takes longer to unscrew the computer and install the parts than to update.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            in theory, couldn't you even just skip the step of installing the update first? I know new mobos are capable of booting with no cpu present at all, so wouldn't booting with an unsupported one result in the same end state?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              I havent encountered these yet so I cant say. You should always check motherboard, bios and cpu compatibility before throwing down for parts anyway

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      meant for
      [...]

      >Just stick the cpu in
      >Why doesnt this work
      I knew journalists were morons, but surely he could have worked this one out

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >put updated BIOS firmware on USB stick
      >??????
      >PROFIT!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Didn't check motherboard compatibility
      >Didn't try reinstalling the SSD on another slot
      >Didn't backup
      >"Reddit didn't help"
      >Too moronic to format
      Holy fricking shit how completely useless can someone be?

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rate my battlestation. That's a Sonnet eGFX Breakaway Box with a 3070ti inside.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dude, no one's going to try and geolocate your room

  31. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Funny, but why can't we piece a laptop "rig" like we can a PC?

    Fricking at the mercy of the companies.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://frame.work/laptop-16
      eventually

  32. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Been building for 20 years
    >Breaks every time
    Something tells me theyre doing something very wrong

  33. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >pic
    That man talks like a moron and acts like a moron, I think he may be moronic.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      meant for

      No further comment required.

  34. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >After my rig broke again
    I've been tinkering and building my own PCs since the 90s and can count the number of times something failed on one hand. Also working in IT the failure rate of even enterprise-scale computer fleets is still very low. This homosexual is just doing things wrong.

  35. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you want a gaming laptop, don't buy a gaming laptop. buy a refurbished productivity laptop with a decent CPU. it will be able to run / emulate all of the good games of the yesteryears. you will have more fun than trying to find a machine that won't melt itself trying to run the latest AAA slop

  36. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've built 2, first my GPU died and because I hadn't upgraded in like 5 years basically the whole lot was out of date so I built another new PC without a GPU because they were overpriced at that time and scarce stock, then before I could get the new GPU my old CPU cooler started to fail so I replaced that and then finally got a new GPU since then I've had no problems.

    Honestly there's really not that much that can go wrong on a PC?

    >cpu - you will know about it
    >hdd - you might start to see odd crashes in games or other things just run SMART and see how it looks this is how I caught one of mine before it outright failed, RDR2 kept crashing and not playing right turns out the HDD had bad sectors
    >ram - same sort of problems as HDD, but I've never had them, you can run a RAM tester to check though
    >PSU - it won't turn on so replace it

    Other than that the only problem might be high temps but generally when I build the PC, first thing I do after start up is stress test it for 30 mins and if the temps don't stay cool then I re-do the thermal paste, once my temps were hitting over 100 very quickly, turns out I had the CPU cooler bracket on wrong it was 90 degrees off, when I put it on right max temp was in the 60s / 70s.

    Its just a learning experience really.

  37. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >building a PC for 20 years
    Sounds like a cascading failure of building a pc instead of starting fresh.

  38. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    As someone who's too lazy to build a new desktop, DON'T buy a gaming laptop. Its performance is pure shit, it gets hot enough to melt the fricking sun, and it's way more expensive than just building a new PC. Don't be a moron like me.

  39. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I own a desktop and laptop of equal power, I travel just enough that it's nice to have both.

    The problem with my laptop is that it's a lot harder replace parts or even try to fix it. It case is almost completely locked down and it feels like I'm breaking something when opening it up.

    I can save old parts like my PSU, case, storage drives, monitors, input devices, and whatever else when I upgrade my desktop. I have to fully replace my laptop when it's time to upgrade.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's possible to find replacement laptop parts but much harder than desktop parts and you pretty much can't upgrade most of it other than storage and ram (if it's not soldered).

  40. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dunno this would be my recommendation as well if you are a normie or a casual gamer. Recent gaming notebooks have decent cooling + the fact that GPUs have gotten more efficient, you can get a laptop that can compete with midrange gaming PCs for like $200 more.

    As for upgradability, it doesn't matter that much, if you care, buy one with replaceable RAM and dual NVMe slots.
    Yeah you won't be able to upgrade the GPU, but CPU upgradablity is suspect as well, Intel tends to put out a new CPU socket every year, and you'll lose compatibility when DDR6 rolls out anyway.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you're a normie or casual just buy a fricking console. Obviously you're just going to play unmodded triple A and FortCraft of Duty.

  41. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    what is that, a screen for ants?

  42. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    just buy a console at that point

  43. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I had problems with my desktop
    >So I am going to buy a "gaming laptop" which are notorious for constantly having problems

  44. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I'VE BEEN BUILDING PCS FOR 20 YEARS
    >AFTER MY RIG BROKE YET AGAIN
    >AFTER MY RIG BROKE YET AGAIN
    >AFTER MY RIG BROKE YET AGAIN

  45. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    A laptop is just a shittier, more expensive computer that has irreplaceable parts

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >pic

  46. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you keep your computer on all the time then laptops are a horrible option.

  47. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Deprecates in an hour in your path
    Nothing persona, Tom's Hardware. *remove from Google Newsfeed*

  48. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    can i grill on a laptop?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most laptops run at 100°C by default so yes.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Even desktop CPU's run at 95C these days
        >It's fine, the experts all agree

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Intel CPUs for being shitty and AMD CPUs for going full moron with the X3D cache.
          Ryzen CPUs have a extremely moronic CPU layout under the die, its almost time to go direct die and get rid of the IHS to improve cooling.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ryzen CPUs have a extremely moronic die layout under the IHS*

            For example Noctua is redesigning the heatsinks to cool the bottom part of the CPU since that is where 90% of the heat comes from.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Great now add my ambient room temperature of 30 degrees Celsius.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >tfw my cpu runs cooler than your life

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >using a fork next to active electrical parts

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >desktopfats don't have a cooking feature
      you lost

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >metal fork

  49. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  50. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You'll never get to fully utilize a gaming laptops specs as they'll overheat easily which leads to them throttling perfomance in an effort to cool down

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      just throw a bag of frozen vegetables under it and its good to go.

  51. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I agree people who can't help but frick their own shit up due to sheer moronation should stick to pre-made computers that don't give you the option of upgrading parts down the road so they won't be tempted to break their shit again.

  52. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's only worth it if you have a traveling job.
    >t. Guy who goes all over the world monthly for work.
    I get maybe a week at home at most every month so I had no choice but to get one.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I get maybe a week at home at most every month
      frick that shit

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      What do you do. That sounds pretty fun, but something that gets old fast. Do you make it a point to leisurely explore/experience the places you go to most of the time? International or domestic only?

  53. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What the frick do they mean "my rig broke yet again"?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      just tech illiterate morons not knowing how to fix basic computer issues so they throw the whole things out.

  54. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've got laptop with 3070 during mining boom because I had no pc at the time and it seemed like a better deal. Ironically GPU is the strongest thing about it. Lots of power. no throttling, stable temperature in full load. Good stuff. But I can't tell the same about ryzen CPU. 5800H is literally a bottleneck in some games which pisses me off. I just don't get same frames as I could with something like 3600 + 3060Ti. Probably going to build PC again because I want to play some FPS and my shit drags.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Funny how it used to be GPUs that are the worst part of gaming laptops, but now it is CPUs.
      I got CPU problems with my laptop too

  55. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >buy gaming laptop for $1200
    >365.01 days later it dies and isn't user serviceable without surgical skills and special tools
    >"sorry your machine is out of warranty and it will take 4 months and cost $600 to repair your machine, or would you like to buy a new one from us? :)"
    vs
    >build a gaming pc for $1200 (that also has more performance)
    >gpu or psu or fan dies after 5 years
    >just get a new part for peanuts and get your rig running again the same day
    wew tough choice
    though I do have a gaming laptop if I have to leave for days or weeks and so far I've only had to twice do laptop motherboard soldering and I'd rather build a rig from the beginning than do that ever again, laptop disassembly and reassembly sucks

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >buy gaming laptop for $1200
      >365.01 days later it dies
      I bought mine when the pandemic started and its working just fine today. I'm playing street fighter 6.
      I will buy a new laptop once a RTX 2060 can't properly run games at 1080p or 1440p.

      There is no reason to build a PC when you can just buy a laptop, buy an external fan, and just leave it there, at your desktop forever until it dies.

      The only laptop that has ever failed me before the 5 years mark, had an Intel CPU. Never again.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The only laptop that has ever failed me before the 5 years mark, had an Intel CPU. Never again.
        >or "How I told everyone I was moronic without saying it": The Movie, The Post

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I had my 480 8gb die after 5 years… or so u though, i read some comments that the thermal paste was poorly applied in my model; changed it and gave it 2 extra years of life. Bought a 3060ti this year i can play Vr and 4k with no issues on it. Plan to keep it around for at least 3 more years.

      Desktops sre so much fricking cheaper when you have 2 braincells its not even a comparison.

  56. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >gaming laptop
    Enjoy gaming in the summer.
    The meme cooling pads will do shit.
    I suffered it during uni study but bought a gaming PC once I bought my house.

  57. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >after my rig broke
    >yet again
    Unironically how does this happen? I have never had anything stop working except for a mouse start double clicking.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's a reason he calls it a "rig". It's a juryrigged monstrosity he threw together without even looking at a QVL or touching BIOS settings and never bothered to dust or perform regular maintenance tasks.

      High likelihood all those 20 years were just him making a new hodgepodge "technically compatible" piece of shit, where the mystery lies in how it functioned for so long in the first place as opposed to why some part recently failed.

  58. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cooling.
    What an incompetent wienersucker.

  59. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >i build computers for a living
    >trust me and buy a laptop that shits out faster so i get a repeat customer sooner

  60. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >i've been building pcs for 20 years and doing a shitty job of it so they keep breaking.
    >just get a factory made laptop, its so much easier and better
    >trust me bro
    >no, the extended heat exposure will NOT fry the motherboard and be "another broken rig, yet again"
    >trust me bro

  61. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’ve also been building computers for 20 years and mine never break or malfunction.

    Perhaps he’s just moronic?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only PC I ever had break was a pre built for ~700 back in early 2010s.
      I've never had issues since then
      Meanwhile, a family member spent like $1000+ on a gaming laptop and it got slow and shitty like 2 years into it's life

  62. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >replacing one part is le cringe replacing the whole thing is B A S E D!!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Please don't be racist against Apple users.
      They are valid human beans just like everyone else.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I periodically build an entirely new computer every 8-10 years and never bother with upgrading existing parts so all that money can just be applied to the new one.

  63. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The worst thing about every gaming laptop on the market is the terrible anti-glare matte displays they try to sell as a feature. You're supposed to play games on them but they decide to put a coating on that makes everything look dull as frick.

  64. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Which gpu is better in terms of performance?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      6650 XT in rasterization and certain titles, but the 3060 has DLSS and will likely remain the 'target card' for most of the generation.

      The 'cynical practical answer' is the 3060 since the 4060 will probably end up performing worse.

  65. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just got myself a memetop with 3070ti and 1440p IPS screen with 165hz for under 1k and slugger, I'm maxxxin errthang while lazing in my bederino and basically, ur fkn stupid

    when my free month of Gaypass that came with it runs out I will most likely emulate retro most of the time

  66. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    maybe he was just unlucky, but the only problem i had so far was my cheap psu not being able to actually deliver the advertised wattage, dont cheap out on the psu guys, believe me.
    parts have fell down during assembly and another time when i tried to change the cooler, my cpu straight up fell and its an am4 too, nothing happened and my rig still runs as good as the first day.

  67. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I actually owned a Gaming laptop for a time. It was nice for the convenience when I needed it but I don't know why you'd buy a laptop if you don't need the mobility in some way. Buy a pre-built at that point from someone like Cyberpower or something.

  68. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >trust me, pay more for less
    which laptop manufacturer do you think paid him off for this article?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most laptops these days perform about the same. But I'll give you that they are a bit more expensive. When I bought my current computer a couple of years ago I was pricing a laptop along with it and I would have paid about $150ish more. Considering I also needed a monitor as well I guess you could say it's about the same.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not convinced

  69. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Herb for techlet shit. Gaming laptops will always be an overpriced meme used to scam kids.

  70. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >my rig broke again
    Autistic hands wrote that article. My gaming computers have never "broke" and I use them for 4-5 years, build a new one and give my old one to my son.

  71. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I definitely wouldn't recommend it over a PC, but we have reached a point where hardware gains have been outpacing software requirements for quite some time so a gaming laptop should be a lot more viable than it was in the past. It's why the Steam Deck is viable and able to play many brand new AAA games well, whereas a 2010 equivalent would not have been able to play very many, if any, 2010 AAA games.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a 2010 equivalent would not have been able to play very many, if any, 2010 AAA games.
      They could, it was just expensive. My $1500 laptop played pretty much everything from that time period and only couldn't play AAA starting from Doom 2016.

  72. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Laptops cost like $500 more than a desktop for equal performance. Mainly due to the heating issues all laptops have. You buy it for the mobility to play at work. That's it.

  73. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    desktops are for virgins.

    laptops are for sex havers.

  74. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather be able to easily service my own machine if I have a part fail. I've built 3 computers over the past 15 years and only had one or two parts die that I replaced. My previous computer actually is still a perfectly good gaming machine it was just starting to struggle with games at 1440p.

  75. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Rig broke again
    I've had a PC since 2001 that I've been upgrading myself. The only issue I've ever had is one time when the power went off and I discovered on of the ram sticks had burned and would stop my from booting back in 2005. What the frick are people doing with the their computers??

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What the frick are people doing with the their computers??
      deleting system32

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry, I meant my only Hardware problem. I've had plenty of software issues when fricking around with programs and shit but that's my own fault.

  76. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like my legion

  77. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Best gaming laptop brand? Planning to get a cheap 4050/4060 one for work purposes and casual gaming.

  78. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not true as of 2018. I have to throttle mine to keep it from melting.

  79. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gaming laptops are great until you're 3 years in and it begins to run like molasses

  80. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    So his prebuilt PC died and he didn't know how to fix it. Lets be real no one that builds their own PC just gives up and gets some shitty "gayming" laptop with poor cooling.

  81. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ive been using a laptop ever since i got my own place with my gf. Probably wont go back to having a tower but im happy with my comfy laptop

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