So news just dropped that Microsoft admits in internal emails they're buying Activision to purposely kill off playstation. Wonder how they're gonna spin this
So news just dropped that Microsoft admits in internal emails they're buying Activision to purposely kill off playstation.
Link the source or frick off grifter
https://www.axios.com/2023/06/20/exhibit-k-microsoft-activision
>It's OK when Sony does it.
>It's OK when China does it.
>It's OK when Saudi Arabia does it.
But an American corporation buying another American corporation... NOT OK!
I don't recall Sony buying up major publishers to deny games to their competition and China and Saudi Arabia don't sell consoles. Microsoft as a platform holder can make thee games exclsuvie, which what they want to do by the way, while China and SA would still keep the games multiplatform
moron, sony is the one who is denying COD to be put on playstation
I just want cod on geforce now so I can play a decent arcade shooter without shiity drm and 200gb of my ssd being stolen for a game I really only like for zombies and infected modes
>whataboutism
Whataboutism is quite a valid argument in the legal world as it means a precedent was already set
When has Sony ever purchased a company like Activision in a self admitted attempt to kill the competition? And the Chinese and Arabs tend to just invest, not actually buy companies.
Wasn't Microsoft's original argument that they think this kind of behavior boosts competition?
you know that you could just flip the image and that'd be (you), right?
Sony didn't buy up the industry to make Xbox fail, Xbox did that on their own
>Ted Bundy killed people, so what's the big deal if I kill a guy or two!
https://archive.fo/PRFsn
>Axios
This is literally one of Sony's paid media websites
Chop your balls off
Legal documents are legal documents. Microsoft had paid other media sources to spin shit for them as well but without a single legal document to their name
And?
The supreme court will eat the FTC alive and remind them where they belong, the FTC isn't the FCC
THE SWAMP wants to send a message
The FTCs grounds for injunction just got a massive boost
which means shit since sony isn't part of the clubhouse
>Source: my rear end
>source is from the reddit gamer lawsuit
>FTC court trial is with the same judge who blocked the gamer lawsuit
lol
>Source: some reddit frick that just says stuff on the internet
>No actual evidence shown
Also how is this different from how Sony's been starving out Microwiener the past decade or so?
>its redacted but dude trust me behind the big black Black person box it says this!
ok lmao
>Competing company makes business decisions to make other company sell less of their product/lose customers
What a shock.
Seriously though, I get there's a line drawn between proper competition and outright sabotaging your competitor, but buying up devs/publishers to bring more customers to you and away from your competitor seems pretty normal. Really not sure why they'd need to spin the story any specific way.
They're not buying up just any competition, they're buying the largest gaming company in the US with possibly one of the most valuable IPs in the world. Anyone with sense knows MS was doing the merger for anti competition reasons
Who gives a shit. Sony is trash
Horizontal mergers are heavily regulated precisely for reasons like this
And? Businesses do everything in their power at all times to work towards near monopolies within their field. It's not a good thing to see and yes, it's heavily regulated. But no one should be surprised by this or think that Microsoft needs to scramble to hide their dirty laundry.
Not trying to be snippy with you specifically, but I've seen threads like this before discussing how it's such a crazy thing that Microsoft is trying to buy up Activision. If Microsoft could, they'd likely buy up Sony, rename all of their studios, and scatter the directors of the company to the far reaches.
None of it's okay, but I really don't understand people either being surprised or expecting Microsoft to act like they got caught red-handed.
>So?
The fact that you're defending blatant anti competitive behavior speaks volumes. Companies seek to be the market leader but no sane company seeks to become a monopoly because that leads to a government remains. MS basically has gone on record saying they want to be the only game in town, that should lead to swift government action to prevent such from taking place
I didn't say anything in defense of what Microsoft is doing. I'm saying it's an inevitability that companies will push for near monopolies. That's literally the end goal of any business; to eliminate any and all competition to the point that consumers will only see you for their needs.
I agree that government action should be taken. What I'm frustrated by is people being surprised that Microsoft isn't this wholesome, "for the people" company. That, and the idea that they suddenly need to "spin" the story another way to make themselves seem like they aren't another ruthless, cold business.
It's just silly. Maybe it's a pessimistic view, but anyone who thinks that any of these companies/publishers actually care about uplifting the industry are deluding themselves. They want to profit; consumers are profit, competition is not. Thus competition needs to be eliminated.
Stupid regulations if you ask me.
Why did you think they were buying Activision Blizzard for? To stay distant third place behind Sony and Nintendo?
It goes against their public claims that they were doing this only to compete and that Sony is just bullying them. It also casts doubt about their "keeping call of duty exclusive makes no financial sense" claims as well because everyone knows they could eat the loss with a smile on their face if it meant less competition
They aren't competing now. Getting Activision Blizzard will make them competitive. I don't think an email will change anything, you can argue they were just saying something in an emotive way. Its common in english speaking countries, we don't filter ourselves when using english like esls do
If you need to buy the largest gaming publisher in US to compete then you don't deserve to compete. MS isn't trying to compete, they're trying to control, they've been in the industry for 20+ years as the loss leader when other companies would have left after the first failure. If they're not "competing" now then they should leave the industry
>If their not competing now then they should leave
So Playstation domination is ok then with that in mind
>what is pc gaming and the switch
Cope harder xcuck. The only monopoly is the one microshit is trying to make.
So Nintendo does count now, and it means sony can compete without COD?
based! based! based!
And this is why no one likes you gays because you beg for a monopoly and for the industry to get shittier just because you let Sony live in your head rent free
The day of the big Windows lawsuit draws ever nearer. Piece of shit company. Worse even than Crapple and israelitevidia combined.
sony is doing a good enough job killing themselves
They're outselling MS 2:1. If they're killing themselves, they're doing a bad job of it
>Microsoft trying to cuck Playstation
Who could've seen this coming
I want both to die
Nobody cares what PC gays think
as someone who much preferred ps1/ps2 to n64/gcn, nothing would make me happier than seeing modern sony die for what they've done to their IPs and former talent. its actually insane that nintendo of all companies is the least shitty option at the moment.
>nintendo of all companies is the least shitty option
buy a steamdeck
i have an actual pc why the frick would i buy a console with no exclusives
>Sony fanboy: Microsoft owning ABK will kill Sony
>also Sony fanboy: Microsoft owning ABK won't do shit except kill off both companies because they both suck
Which one is it?
Projection
It's not Sony's fault MS isn't selling as well as they are but MS trying to consolidate is them trying to actively harm Sony
>company puts itself on sale
>Microsoft buys
>how dare Microsoft buy this company that's selling itself!
>They're only trying to harm Sony!
>Sony should be protected at all costs and legitimate business transactions should be blocked to protect them!
Be a moron if you want but Microsoft isn't some underdog, they're a trillion dollar company with a history of anti competitive behavior. They're also not just buying any company but the largest gaming company in the US
That's not a legal reason for it to be blocked. And none of the regulators are using such weak arguments as yours to try and block it. Microsoft are big but not in gaming. I guarantee you also think xbox is a dead brand. They can't not be an underdog and also be a dead brand at the same time. Hypocrisy.
>Microsoft are big but not in gaming
lol
>That won't kill off playstation.
lol
That's a perfectly legal reason. To block it. Big companies are prohibited from acquiring other companies all the time simply because of the massive size of the buyer already in a market. I also never said xbox was a dead brand, I said it was a weak brand, they're the loss leader and have been since entering the industry. Being a loss leader isn't cause and reason to buy the largest gaming company in thebUS because your product sucks and the competition is kicking your ass
>That's a perfectly legal reason.
No it isn't
>Big companies are prohibited from acquiring other companies all the time simply because of the massive size of the buyer already in a market
No they're not. The size of a company without context doesn't mean shit. Deals get blocked if a dominant player in a market tries to further their dominance in said market. Microsoft aren't dominant in gaming, Sony are bigger. And legally Sony are allowed to buy a lot less than Microsoft in the context of gaming because of their market dominance. For example one of the big reasons Sony can't acquire square enix is because Sony already has a dominant market position in anime and square holds some of the biggest anime IP. However Microsoft would be allowed to buy square enix because there isn't a conflict there and Microsoft aren't dominant in gaming nor anime, even though Microsoft are are bigger company overall. You're trying to argue things you clearly don't understand.
>Microsoft isn't dominant in gaming
Being in third place doesn't mean they don't have a massive presence in the industry. You don't need to be a market leader to be blocked on anti competition concerns
>Being in third place doesn't mean they don't have a massive presence in the industry
NTA but Xbox doesn't have a massive presence in the industry
They're selling less than both Nintendo and Sony. They're selling LESS than half of what Sony sells in Xbox's Strongest market.
And if round in PC gaming there too, Xbox is losing in the PC space too against Steam by HUGE margins.
Microsoft being a big company in general doesn't mean anything when their current foothold is basically "barely holding on to relevance, marketshare and popularity"
But Microsoft is content with that. That's the reason they can put minimal effort with games and still make bank. From this position of 3rd place is what allows them to cry wolf and ask for help to compete with Sony.
Once again, getting beat by the competition doesn't negate their presence in the gaming industry. Their console isn't selling as well but they still push over a million consoles a month and they distribute software across the world on multiple storefronts. Getting your ass kicked isn't grounds to consolidate l, especially when you have more money and resources than the companies you're competeting with
Microsoft has willingly been the loss leader for 20 years simply because they want fominant market share. Any other company would have left by now, their intentions are not noble
so what, every single sony product has been sold at a loss
Loss leader is just a business strategy. You don't need to be a mega corp to implement such a strategy. All it means is you subsidise some products with the profits of others. They went into detail about this in the epic vs apple case where MS said they sell their consoles at a loss but they're subsidised by the profits they make from addon content and peripherals. Sony does this too with the launch of a new console. It always takes a couple years or so to start generating a profit on hardware but initially the costs are subsidised.
The EU literally said one of the reasons they passed the deal was because Microsoft has such little presence in Europe with 4 playstations for every xbox.
>Microsoft aren't dominant in gaming,
you need windows to play these games
>steam deck
>proton
>uses steam OS
>even apple has their own proton equivalent now
Nah
deck
>>uses steam OS
>>even apple has their own proton equivalent now
>he thinks any of these are relevant
>You NEED windows to play these games
crapple went full ARM so wine and proton won't do them much good without emulation.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/7/23752164/apple-mac-gaming-game-porting-toolkit-windows-games-macos
Yeah but it works
arm macs can emulate dx12 now homie
been like 2 weeks
we also have amazing switch vitalization
a 400$ mac mini base model with m2 can play almost all switch games at 60fps and 1080-1440p with safari tabs open
I am still confused about why every switch port is not also a ipad/mac port since half the work of getting it on arm is already done
>nogaemz toy OS
I can't wait for crapple to take your emulators down for promoting piracy, just like on ios
unlike windows, there is no "S" mode where apple tries to stop users from installing and running software
Windows has uwp, tpm2, and secure boot to get win 11 ready to be a piracy free os
Windows already puts up huge barriers on apps like creaminstaller to get free dlc
Mac os isnt as cozy as linux, but its a lot better than windows
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/blog/2020/11/17/meet-the-microsoft-pluton-processor-the-security-chip-designed-for-the-future-of-windows-pcs/
enjoy your OS wide drm
VR is only on windows
Even if valve brought steamvr native to linux and mac and ported alyx, we still would be missing geo 11 (https://helixmod.blogspot.com/2022/06/announcing-new-geo-11-3d-driver.html) which is what lets us play 3dvr 2d games in dx11
And how would MS buying them outright change that if they're already Winblows exclusive?
I can download iTunes on Windows, MS do not care because they realised allowing competitors (in this example, Apple) to work in Windows means that there's less incentive to not have Windows. MS don't see MacOS as a competitor, and they can't do anything about Wine on Linux even if they cared enough to try and take out an OS that has 2% market share.
Hope they succeed and kill off Sony California and all it's western abominations of games. This way Playstation has no other choice but to focus only on where it truly belongs, Japan.
Spiderman, TLoU and GoW troons are not real Playstation fans. Split the fanbase! We must go back to Japan!!
I'm honestly tired of you morons, japan is all about mobile gaming. SIE being in America has actually led to them making more money than when they were based in Japan. The Japan studio games you slobber over sold like shit aside from Gran Turismo which is why it's the only one left.
They play on their phones cause they ain't got nothing on PS at home but goyslop western trash nowadays.
Who wants to turn on their PS5 again after seeing Horizon and GoWs ugly shit on their home screen.
Genshin Impact makes more than Sony and Nintendo combined in Japan.
>he wants a world where microsoft makes the rules in console gaming
every single bad thing about modern consoles started with microsoft
>every single bad thing about modern consoles started with microsoft
what is satellaview
what are crapcom suicide batteries
what is seganet
>whatabaoutism
>No moron
>says something more moronic
says the cherrypicker
>dead and forgotten randos
vs
>company who has been cancer to this day
Cope and seethe troony morales
No moron I just want a world where Microsoft a sobs western gaming so PS and Nintendo focus on Japanese games. It's the world you want too if you truly like video games.
>PS and Nintendo focus on Japanese games
they go out of business in the west
The best games out this year have all been Japanese. Games like TLoU, GoW and every western Sony exclusive except Tsushima has been cancer to the industry.
Personal opinions are not facts
>The best games out this year have all been Japanese
sales numbera are all that matters in this dumdum
>and Nintendo focus on Japanese game
>nipland's yidsney equivalent working on nip titles (remember the NES and SNES eras)
kys
My god, it's almost like every company wants to kill off their competition and establish a monopoly. Crazy
Worth it for everyone to remember
>Sony tried to trick both Nintendo and Sega into giving up control of their IP and games
>Nintendo mandated 2 year exclusivity for literally ever NES game they licensed
The merger should be blocked, but there should be more restrictions on the shit that Sony pulls too
Sony does nothing illegal, third-party exclusives have existed longer than you've been alive. Microsoft only whines about them to support their legal case for the merger
I never said third party exclusives were illegal though?
Oh wow thats crazy... just let me go buy a copy of FF16 for my xbox or PC...
That won't kill off playstation.
>a company I don't give money to intends to buy another company I don't give money to, with the intent of taking market share from a third company I don't give money to
Who the hell cares? Xbox is shit, Actiblizzard is shit, and PlayStation is shit. Whether the merger goes through or not literally nothing will change, because all three will still be shit and still make shit games.
You sound like a fun person that definitely enjoys videogames and not a bitter jaded pc gay
Microsoft should be forced out of gaming. Imagine a global conglomerate with frick you money that cannot produce new ips for its fricking console? Decades of producing nothing new whatsoever. Decades of just leeching from gaming like a fricking parasite then claiming being bullied by a company that almost went bankrupt. Microsoft should be forced to leave the console space.
Microsoft is a terrible company. They mismanaged Xbox souch that the brand is basically dead, but now they're going to use money from their more successful divisions (that are mostly monopolies in their respective industries) to try becoming a monopoly in video games. Remember how bad GFWL was? That is Microsoft, they suck shit but force you to use their garbage by force. They are legitimately worse than Sony.
>Microsoft is a terrible company. They mismanaged Xbox souch that the brand is basically dead
That's exactly why I want them to buy ABK.
Same. I want Cod to die so we can get a variety of new fps games again. I want a new Timesplitters.
>they're buying Activision to purposely kill off playstation
Dear god do I wish.
>rooting for a corporation
have a nice day.
for a corporation
>have a nice day.
ironic
still frick ms
>ad hom
The last refuge of someone with no argument
rooting for a corporation is an action, not a personality trait. stop spouting words randomly to try to sound adult.
Cheering for the death of Playstation is not "rooting for Microsoft". You're a consolewarring underage homosexual whose projecting his Green Team vs Blue Team mentality onto your moronic 'eat the rich' political beliefs. You're using " you support Xbox" as an insult, which is by definition a personal attack.
I hate both companies. I just want them to stop doing evil shit.
And how is MS buying Actiblizzard evil? Remember, if your argument boils down to "property bad", you are an ideologically-captured homosexual
Market consolidation is bad obviously. There's no valid justification for it and the only people really for it are xbox fanboys
what about my post makes you think I'm in the console wars? you are false flagging so hard rn
merging your identity with a brand or company is as bad as the gays who formed their identity on what media told them gays were like based on media only seeing pride parades
theres no hope for you so why argue?
So it's okay when coca cola actively does everything possible to destroy the new entrants of their industry, and every other company, but not when microsoft does it
I'm not on their side, I just mean that it's silly to thing they are the only ones doing this vile evil corpo moves
>I'm not on their side, I just mean that it's silly to thing they are the only ones doing this vile evil corpo moves
you are excusing microsoft by saying other entities are doing it too
uh guys, speaking of micosoft, the new halo inf infection mode is worse than halo 4 infection. How did they frick up even this game mode?
I dont want microsoft maxing abk games worse than they are already
>So news just dropped that Microsoft admits in internal emails they're buying Activision to purposely kill off playstation
How is this news? That's exactly what they wanted to do in the first place, take their competitors out, just like Sony did when they started to steal Nintendo exclusives and just like Nintendo did when they entered the market and distanced themselves from all the shitty consoles on the market. Also, I would take a lot more than just losing COD to kill Playstation.
>imagine thinking that activision has enough weight or power in the current age to 'kill off'' something
They don't need to spin anything. That's fricking based
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I'm still planning on getting an Xbox soon.
So what? Your goal should be to put your competition out of business. Sony wanted to destroy Nintendo back in the day.
The fact that Nintendo fended off both Sony and Sega at the same time often goes forgotten.
But people buy PS for games other than just call of duty. I havent even played a cod game in like a decade but I've bought every PS since the og PS. So how would losing COD make PS go away?
Email is from 2019
https://twitter.com/user/status/1671304215006773257
US Judge already dismissed it as not being evidence. Serious regulators didn't mention it at all. It's just nothingburger clickbait from GAMER'S lawyers.
lol
BREAKING NEWS: MICROSOFT ACQUISITION IS ACTUALLY TO HURT THEIR COMPETITORS. THEY DONT CARE ABOUT THE GAMERS, I REPEAT, THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE GAMERS. MORE AT ELEVEN.
This is bullshit. Phil has always had the gamers back.
Deal is dead now. They got caught redhanded