>so obviously evil he might wind up not being evil just to SUBVERT EXPECTATIONS
Hmmm
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>so obviously evil he might wind up not being evil just to SUBVERT EXPECTATIONS
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What if he's actually evil. He's so obviously evil, that we don't expect him to be evil because that would be too simple. The plot twist is that he's actually not evil behind the initial plot twist of him actually being evil.
What if he is evil, but only because he is evil to the world he resides in but is good in the meta sense of supporting the player over the characters in deltarune.
What if he just dies before we even get to see if he's evil or not.
I don't think he's evil. I think he's trying to lead us to a certain conclusion.
What I think is going to happen is that SUSIE is the one who is going to disagree with that conclusion. And being the immutable "overrides your decisions" character, she will drag you along to oppose him.
this. He's a servant of Prophecy and needs things to go a certain way. I have a sneaking, schizo suspicion he might literally have the script or something analogous to it.
he freaks out every time people start improvising, I wouldn't be shocked. I ended up watching this autist go through the files and there's a lot of funny business with filenames and fonts
lucky japanese players get all kinds of hints with their translation, Toby is a goddamn weeb I hate his guts
>I ended up watching this autist go through the files and there's a lot of funny business with filenames and fonts
Do you remember which video that was?
if you can get past the text to speech he tends to dig and connect a lot of dots
https://www.youtube.com/c/HalfBreadChaos
I don't remember which video it was, but he's patreon funded so he'll dig through all the files and find these weird obscure connections between undertale and various chapters from tiny phrases, to fonts, to filenames, even small notes that play for 2 or 3 seconds, it's pretty insane.
Thanks
I wish could enjoy Half Bread Chaos. I don't even mind the TTS but the weird tangents and amateur editing/pacing make me feel like my time is wasted. Beggars can't be choosers though.
his deltarune analysis videos are one of the best, but i can only watch him on 1.75 times speed
The most damning evidence is when he goes "we were supposed to-" in Snowgrave. Supposed to what?
Also, he's the only one to talk about the prophecy (other than Gaster, outside of the game) and the Roaring (which is supposed to be a world-ending event so how does he even know about it?)
Damn I didn't even notice that Snowgrave detail.
>"we were supposed to-"
when was this? only thing i can think of is not watching noelle and susie talking
snowgrave when susie goes to check on noelle's room
Yes, it's that scene. Ralsei accidentally falls asleep while waiting to try to goad you into shifting focus, and Susie ends up coming back before he can do that. He clearly wanted to talk to Kris alone again, and not doing that seems to distress him for a moment.
>other than Gaster, outside of the game
I want to see this
Quoting the wiki
>From 2016 to 2017, deltarune.com contained nothing but a single image, with the filename him.png. This image appears to be completely black like the website's background, but actually contains very low contrast Wingdings text. The text reads "THREE HEROES APPEARED TO BANISH THE ANGEL S HEAVEN", referring to the same events as the legend.
Image in question.
>inb4 he only knows a fraction of the script/prophecy
He knows the ending of the story, but is so unabashedly good and positive that he didnt get mindbroken like jevil or spamton, he just goes along with it instead.
He's not evil. He's either
>Projection fantasy of an idealized Asriel Kris always wanted out of a brother
or
>Projection fantasy of the goat monster Kris always wished he could be (based on the red horns he used to wear/still carries around)
Either way, it's going to be about him moving on and abandoning that idealized fantasy to deal with reality.
But here's the question
Is he cute??
so chris wished to be a homosexual? mein gott!!!
I think it’s the latter.
His twist is that he's a young titan, hence being the "prince of darkness".
It's so fricking obvious given one of the titan designs heavily resembles King Asgore.
>Another Deltatroon thread
>Another moron
How do you know what game it's from? OP never mentioned the game.
>Another Him
>OH SHIT IS THAT A GAME I DON'T LIKE? WEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOO WEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOO SOUND THE ALARM troony troony troony
you are literally so obsessed that you couldn't even go without posting here to tell everyone that you're obsessed
>Game I don't like
He likes it, otherwise he wouldn't have recognized it.
go to /vg/ with these generals
absolute moron take but thats expected coming from someone who frequents deltarune threads.
OP never mentioned the game. The fact that you recognized it proves that you care enough about Deltarune to know what it's from.
Just let them seethe through their thinly-veiled "shitposts" and "bait"
sorry next time we'll talk about the bridget troony drama instead of the videogame, is that okay schizoBlack person?
The Deltarune generals are absolutely unhinged and obnoxious
Why are Deltagays so easy to bait? Is it because Deltarune threads are full of redditors?
People have been easy to bait on 4chins since 2012
You're the one who knows it's a Deltarune thread.
>Says dumb shit
>Gets trashed on
>durrhurr why are you so easy to bait
Kys moron and bring your whole family with you.
I'm not even the anon who posted the bait post lmao
It is because they EAT shit and SMELL like shit. They also have terminal ligna.
Why are you so ugly and lame bro?
Why do you encourage baiters bro?
He's HIDING something, that's obvious, but we have nothing explicitly pointing him to be evil aside from the fact that he's keeping secrets with kris
The letters of KRIS and NOELLE together form KILLER ONES.
WHAT THE FRICK THEY DO HOLY SHIT
>Proceed
GERSON also becomes BlackS
the fourth largest island in the phillippines?
GERSON also becomes GONERS
AAIIIEEEEEEE
You’re wrong, it’s supposed to be “killer nose”
asriel dreemurr?
israel murderer
He can't keep getting away with it
/misc/ told me toby fox was a israelite but this reveals he's actually based???
asriel will use everyone’s hopes and dreams to free palestine inshallah
OH NO HE'S GONNA KILL RALSEI
I'm unsure if this is also a card pun, due to aces technically being ones (i.e they are either worthless or the most powerfull card depending on how they are played)
damn...
it also spells REE NO SKILL
Oh boi
>KRIS NOELLE
>RESELL KINO
He’s aware like Sans in Undertale, he knows we can go full murder mode and hopes if he provides a curated experience we’ll resist
He'll get his due in chapter 7
He's not evil, he's Deltarune's Alphys. He's doing everything he can to keep Kris around his finger because where is Ralsei going to find another human to fulfill the prophecy.
>obviously evil
He's obviously suspicious, not specifically evil. There's definitely things he's not telling us but I wouldn't say it's because he's evil outright without any confirmation.
At this point either way won't be really that shocking since many fans expect him to be evil and others not.
I really miss when ralsei was perceived as a girl
You mean when people made Rule 63 art, when the game first came out.
There was literally NO point in the game that people unironically though Ralsei was a girl. Outside of Tertiaries, and Tertiaries are the only thing more homosexualy than Secondaries.
Ah okay so I was just imagining those threads, sure
If those threads existed, they had secondaries and tertiaries.
And frick BOTH of those groups of people.
when the save point right after him says "the power of fluffy boys" yeah I'm thinking your memory is rotten, or exaggerating the amount of threads you've seen from people who clearly never played it
I miss when he was a cute nondescript shadowy creature and didn't have a big stupid muzzle
That also wasn't a thing.
Were you not here when SURVEY_PROGRAM first released or something? it absolutely was until everyone finished the game.
His hatless design fricking ruins the Black Mage reference and makes Noelle's White Mage reference even weirder.
I was, and it was pretty obvious that Ralsei was a goat.
The only thing that was up to discretion was whether he had Black fur (Until about an hour later when people started finishing the game). Something that I understand that Toby had trouble making faces with Ralsei (Likely because Toby uses MSPAINT and frequently just uses Black and White.)
Hey, fair enough. I still think the shadowed sprites are substantially cuter, though.
everyone agrees with that, but the only two things people thought he looked like were a goat or some kind of spider, and with the game mentioning Asriel almost immediately goat is what's on your mind when you meet him
>everyone agrees with that
no, only people with shit taste think that
look I like white ralsei too but anyone who thinks black wasn't way better is a fricking moron or terminally furry
White Ralsei is better because his hair has cute pink highlights and tones.
black ralsei is better because his hair doesnt have weird pink highlights and tones
Most of us realised he was a goat from the start, RALSEI being an anagram of ASRIEL was also pretty damn obvious.
Hell I even kind of think it was obvious he was just a normal goat with a face shadowed by his hat. But people were clearly hoping it was gonna turn out to be dark fur or hoping he wouldn't take his hat off in subsequent chapters because it was a far better look.
Some people thought he was a spider.
He's worst than evil. He's naive as frick.
He thinks he's doing the correct thing to get Kris and the gang a good ending when in reality his way will lead to the same bad result no matter how much he believes the power of friendship can save it all.
How can you still have it in you to follow Toby's games after he supported a terrorist organization, I just can't bring myself to care anymore
I want sans to become progressively more important in each chapter to the point where it seems like he's obviously the villian, then he just fricks off and eats a hog dog I dunno
i want toby to stop pretending fricking sans isnt in his game
He's very blatantly not evil.
He is, however, planted. He's the DM for the Dark World's tabletop campaign and he knows how the game's own mechanics work, how the setting works, everyone's role within it, and he has a vested interest in Susie not figuring things out within any of that beyond her destined role. There's no need to keep Kris in the dark since he's probably complicit in it, or even planted Ralsei there in the first place.
Fighting the superbosses will be the key to the player actually making a difference in how things proceed (in a way that actually benefits anyone that isn't the player, as with Snowgrave). Kris apparently did not know about Spamton and was incredibly shaken by all of his puppet talk, for example, so this is off the beaten path.
based reasonable anon getting no replies because everyone itt is moronic
He's not fricking evil and he isn't "obviously evil" stop slandering him.
He hasn't done anything.
He says that when he's trying to get you to switch POV towards Susie and Noelle. So I think by "we" he means he and Kris, while you're away. Just like in Chapter 1.
Yeah I know I realized that after I posted it and tried to delete all evidence of my misremembering but you swiped me anyways you bastard. But yeah you're right it's about the Kris cutaway.
Socially awkward autismos/chizos are not inherently evil.
Where's chapter 3?
Oh... It's... right behind me isn't it?
https://deltarune.com/update-092022/
Next year.
I have it here, but I'm not showing it to you.
why do some people talk about chapter 3 individually? if it was releasing by itself it would've been out already
late 2026
Chapter 3 will be releasing alongside 4 and 5. It's definitely not gonna be this year. Maybe the next one.
Don't worry, trailer for the anniversary. Next year
post ralsei's FAT ASS
the hotpockets get really mad when I do that
because his ass is too good
Moar cheeks
meh who cares
Aren't we suppose to be getting some actual news tomorrow or is it the end of the week?
It's tomorrow. I'll also be going to the Cafe thing since I live in California, maybe there'll be something there but probably not.
ralsei's a Black person
>haha racism funny
grow up
This is Ganker.
Racism IS funny.
Could you imagine being racist for like 5 seconds?
nice quints
It's insane how easy people get baited. Use your fricking brain. You guys are so fricking stupid.
ha, guys, I was merely siphoning determination, you're so stupid
Not even the gay that posted it
God I love Suzy
check'd
Based.
How do you explain the bit about water sausages?
Frisk learnt what a water sausage was, moron.
Doesn't hold water anon. You haven't actually read the page and I suggest you do. Pic related is not no mercy.
There's even an entire section dedicated to debunking the notion that Frisk is ever the narrator in it. There's ignorance and there's willful ignorance, anon.
Quints of truth.
autism
so who's Ganker tan and who's Ganker tan
Ralsei is Asgore. He just wants to connect with his son and the only way to do that is via a magical fantasy world.
>so obviously evil
He's not, though. He's suspicious due to the talking to Kris "off camera" thing. But the only thing that makes people say he's evil is that he's such an over the top goody goody pacifist. So really the stuff about him being evil is the subversive "aha, the really friendly character was actually evil" twist. Having him be good would just be keeping him as he is.
>. But the only thing that makes people say he's evil is that he's such an over the top goody goody pacifist.
Maybe you should take a second look at his dialogue and do more than just blast through the story
If you had a point you'd make it. He's never done or said anything that implies he's evil. He's suspicious. But so far that's it.
He'll be antagonist to us, the player.
Don't care still going to frick Ralsie
>people who played undertale when they were 10 are adults now
10 year olds didn't play Undertale.
They did all the kids in 5th grade loved undertale
Horrifying
>People who have watched those 1 hour Undertale AUs and got deeply invested are about to vote and drive
dear god
Why is he auctioning merch for a demo...
Who wouldn't if your shit is popular at the moment? Strike while its hot.
It was a joke, they're doing it for charity
I got more hours out of that demo than elden ring so it's clearly got something
Source on this stuff? This sounds believable but also I'm not sure I trust a random text blurb on Ganker
https://twitter.com/chart_carr/status/1570098948865683456
spamton would never do anything for charity, i can't believe toby would misrepresent his character like this
probably to pay his own developer team
How can you call this goat evil?
He's evil because he stole my heart
It was freely given
>wanted to buy the new spamton plush
>saw the official ad for it
>"DUDE HAHA LE WACKY RANDOM JOKESTER *THROWS MILK* HAHA SO RANDOM"
I’ll take quirk and wacky over the normal corporate garbage of today’s marketing tactics anyday.
He's hiding something but he's not gonna be the big bad. Something will happen that makes him look really bad to the player but the end of the chapter will make it less bad with context.
heh
moar gote butt
Something BIG is coming tomorrow
Toby did say it was "specil" just like Spamton spells it
It's been confirmed to be a Spamton takeover on the 17th with a charity stream afterwards
here's a schitzo epiphany I just had. when spamton first meets Kris, assumably he heard someone coming and got into his act, announcing himself
>HEY EVERYBODY ITS ME SPAMTON NUMBER ONE etc etc
but then he turns and IMMEDIATELY recognizes Kris as a "Lightener"
my question is what separates a darkner from a lighter, and is so obvious of a giveaway that spamton could tell right away
IMO Spamton was reality-broken and so can just see things like that
Spamton probably possesses knowledge other darkners don't just like Jevil.
Whoever called him and made him go insane probably told him about all that stuff.
He will be the "Big Bad Evil" in the same way Asgore was only for G[EXPUNGED] to appear as the true big bad. Sorry for spoiling chapters 6 and 7 for you.
you know toby is just gonna pull the same timeline shit as undertale where ralsei knows everything that's going to happen but can't do anything about it because of (you)
reddit: the game
reddit: the dev
I like being a dick to Ralsei because he's an annoying homosexual. Can't wait for more Ralsei abuse in the coming chapters
I assume you threw the manual on the ground?
ralsei is cute, naive, innocent, and fluffy
not made for abusing, made for hugs
I always disliked Undertale because I felt like 90% of the game was me being bored by a bunch of dumb humor and boring gameplay because I heard there was an epic twist at the end. Idc what anyone says the main route of Undertale is boring as hell. Deltarune doesn't have this problem though.
>the main route of Undertale is boring as hell
Truth. Genocide's also boring as hell except for the two best fights in the game.
>.96
Oof poor guy
Oh my mistake, thanks for catching it.
ralsei's cute .96 sub incher!
Until the next chapters come out, I'm still sticking to my theory that he's not evil, just playing the role the Dark gave him.
He's the rule book, the one meant to keep the game on track. The Force that's meant to help Kris face the Knight, because that's what the story says he must do.
He knows full well who the Knight is too. He knows everything but will only say what he must to keep things moving right. And it's all out of genuine love for Kris and possibly Dess if she ends up being the actual source of the Dark.
Also he is for sure Kris' old headband, with he himself being some kind of mixture of Kris' fursona and their memory of Asriel.
Not sure if the Headband is on Kris or in the Dark under the city. Either really works since Kris can have things on their body we can't see like the knife. But given how Toriel says she hasn't seen it since he was little, it also could have been lost back when whatever happened with Dess happened.
So the best ending is gonna be the Strength/Last Minute Aborted Snowgrave route, right?
Where you get the ThornRing and teach Noelle Snowgrave but don't kill Berdly
I'm placing bets on the true ending being the one with the most jingles, not necessarily weird
It'll be kino as frick if we have to take a calculated number of necessary evils to ensure everyone survives
It's interesting how the pitch changes when you abort the weird route. Makes me think if that's one of the entities from the intro sequence railroading you.
One of the intro sequence entities is definitely following us around, at least.
The internal naming scheme of that off-screen creepy smile (device_friend) is consistent with all the intro shit and not normal main game entities
The implication being that creepy smile is on the player's end and looking at us and not Kris
What off-screen creepy smile?
this thing that appears in the basement teacup room at some point (i forget when exactly).
Holy frick. I really need to get to the Spamton NEO fight
Castle basement off screen near the teacup elevator when you first enter the room, it appears for a split second and fades away
Like Flowey then?
Because Flowey also does the same shit in Undertale
>intro sequence entities
You mean Gaster?
It's fairly obvious that the initial entity is not the same as the one that discards the vessel.
The manner of speaking completely changes and in Japanese they're even written completely different.
Nah, I think it'll be an interesting route, but not the best ending.
Best ending will, like Undertale, be pure pacifist. But the jingles and whatnot going on in the other route will lead to some deeper hidden lore shit for sure.
Though, I suppose there is something that could go down with the fact that the defining factor of the "strength" route is that you draw the line at killing someone "real".
Could be the idea of hard cutting it at "escapism is bad" and thus killing the fantasy is fine but killing a person is wrong.
Thus the pure pacifist one, where you end up indulging in the fantasy while also being a good person, will be a more balanced "escapism can be good" type thing.
>Could be the idea of hard cutting it at "escapism is bad" and thus killing the fantasy is fine but killing a person is wrong.
I think this is what Toby will go with. Murdering your way through fictional characters is like playing a videogame, killing your classmate is just wrong.
Best ending will force you to play all routes (weird pacifist and snowgrave) without saving or dying.
we all know snowgrave route is going to be the most kino'est one right
can you try again while speaking like an adult
>adults
>in THE furry troony tumblr game with no gameplay
Superbosses fought will be the best ending and have closure for absolutely everybody
No superbosses fought or only some superbosses fought will be the neutral or "typical" ending
Snowgrave will be the ending where you frick up Kris's life irreparably (you already have by the end of Ch. 2)
Only if you're into misery porn.
Correct.
Who is endgame for Kris? Susie? Noelle? Ralsei? Berdly?
(you)
Noelle will be confident in herself and Susie will be loved by the town, at the cost of Ralsei disappearing and Kris getting Crono'd
What time is this? And why is there no post on his Twitter.com?
its still too soon
https://deltarune.com/update-092022/
https://deltarune.com/update-092022/
https://deltarune.com/update-092022/
No way.
FROGGIT REAL???
>3 new songs
>most pics are from chapter 4 only
>"green room"
i'm happy
>new shop theme
hell frickin yes
>more chilling with Susie in the overworld
This pleases the Krusiegay in me
Not just Froggit Real, but BACKSIDE of Froggit Real
Froggit confirm have ass
>Date with Suzie
MY LOVE! YES!
I WILL TEACH YOU HOW TO FEEL! I WILL TEACH YOU THE BEAUTY OF THIS WORLD! THE BEAUTY OF YOURSELF!
>more getting to hang out with Susie in the overworld
Excellent, very fricking nice
Yes, yes.
>You will never eat trash burgers in an alley with your giant bully gf
Why even live
>My Funky Town
>More saxophone
I love it when he includes sax. Field of Hopes and Dreams is still the best CH1 track for me just because of it.
>more date time with Kris and Susie
>can have Tasque Manager fronting a band
OH YES
Did he just confirm Spamton as his self-insert?
imagine how he felt when playtesters called spamton creepy
The implication of all of the screenshots being from chapter 4 is interesting. It suggests that there are things in chapter 3 that we shouldn't see, and that chapter 3 is probably going to have some shit go down.
Since it takes place in Kris's home, most of the things in there are likely personal and family drama shit.
Additionally, Seam specifically warned against being in a dark world at night. Which is exactly what we're going to do in Chapter 3.
What if it's neither, this game feels like such a nothing is black or white type of game.
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGHHHH
Whos the shadow guy? A possible Chapter 3 theme hint? 50s Noir?
it definitely seems like different movie genres in ine dark world. one of the screenshots looks like a backstage
>Tasque Manager has the smoothest animation
DOMINATE ME TASQUE! AS A LIGHTENER THAT IS WHAT I DEMAND!!!
how large is Toby's tasque folder exactly?
>Put your dominatrix waifu in your game
>Coom as endless amount of fanart is created
He was playing chess while we were playing checkers.
wasn't tasque manager a third-party design like muffet? or at the very least not made by toby/temmie
I've already chosen my narrative and I will not deviate from it.
i was gonna say "hey where's the other one" but his name escaped me because those three guys are so forgettable
I'm at the verge of screaming at the top of my lungs. In a good way.
The screenshot of Susie and Kris sitting is called update2022-dr-ch4-diner-02.png, maybe we'll get 01 someday, maybe wewon't
I thought changing the link would get me something but it just gave me a fake error page that is randomized with music I'm not familiar with, silly of Toby. It's not exclusive to this link, just what I thought would work. Wonder how long this page has been here though.
https://deltarune.com/assets/images/update2022-dr-ch4-diner-01.png
That is a new version of a known song.
>Toby probably saw that I was scraping for urls
>The website now has a dogcheck
One of the songs is called "results.ogg" and the other is called "baci_perugina2.ogg"
How do you get the other one? I only get the sleeping dog.
Refresh the page for the math random function to enable the alternate song or manually enable the second dog by setting it to true.
Yeah, I realized it was just random a little bit after posting.
>site has a dogcheck 404 page now
heh
The Japanese version of the site lacks the dogcheck error and just brings you back to the front page.
Haven't seen this mentioned yet but if you keep refreshing and there's a 5% chance you'll get this instead.
im phoneposting so i cant check, are these all chapter 4 screenshots?
Yeah, only one I'm not sure about is the final one which only says "green_room"
Chapter 3 possibly? Reminds me of a lobby in a TV studio.
Considering this is under the "NEW DARK WORLDS ?!" section, probably is
It's very probably going to be TV-based since this dark fountain did activate when the TV was on in the room.
Also Goat mom is going to be there for sure. I hope nothing bad happens to her. I love Goat mom and I have regular sexual fantasies about her.
Sounds like another darknershop for the next dark world
'green' made me think of plants and Asgore. There are cacti there too, but it could just be a coincidence. The decor reminds me of the MTT resort from UT.
Just noticed that one side of the couch is green and shiny, whereas the other side is blue and torn. Similar to Asriel and Kris' beds
It might be part of the dark world Kris created then. Nice catch
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_room
>OVER TEN POUNDS OF MUSCLE AND NIPPLE
They're finally doing it.
Why is the police out of commission though? Are the only cops in town taking a day off?
Probably because it's such a peaceful little town and also most certainly because Asgore is no longer chief.
mayor scary
You killed or trapped Undyne and Nasta in previous dark world
>we might get a remix of Undyne's music
>we might get a remix of Battle Against A True Hero
undyne's genocide battle music still gives me Goosebumps 7 years later
because mayor prevents crime somehow
Hot Fuzz subplot confirmed?
>pretending to be a lamp to be close to Queen
Is RK a giga simp?
You can enable a second dog.
HOLY FRICK
I NEED THAT BELT
What belt?
>The Fun Gang
soulless
>THE MONEY GANG
SOULFUL
Frick.
Now I'm too awake to sleep
>she's mostly leg
god DAMN
any further thoughts on the 'choices don't matter' thing
also god damn, remember the board exploding once snowgrave was discovered
I still think it's going to be something like, other characters' choices are impacted by your own actions.
I remember someone randomly saying that they killed Berdly, thought they were lying and woke up next morning to everyone discussing some route where Noelle gets mindfricked and Berdly fricking dies
>also god damn, remember the board exploding once snowgrave was discovered
That was the moment I realized this was going to eclipse undertale. Well that and the confirmation we're getting a sans-ish superboss with excellent music for every single god damn chapter.
Cute. CUTE!
who the hell is in the right side of the stage????????????
a member of the midnight crew
BASED
So how do you pronounce Blackcity
like hydrocity
knee-gra-city
You pronounce it simular to how you pronounce "atrocity".
neegrowsitee
N'grockity
when will toby get cancellled for octoroon rangoon
mr game and watch
new character, probably a darkner from ch 3 or 4
I think it's Kenny G's shadow
MYSTERY homie
IMA SCATMAN
holy shit we get more jazz
well looks like i'll using this thread since the other one is getting spammed with nikocado dick
>First time I make a deltarune thread it gets attacked by a schizo
Goddamit, didn't see this one earlier either
I thought the mods could salvage it but it turned into an actual zoo exhibit. CP posted.
most spammers don't even hate deltarune.
they probably just wanna ruin threads for the sake of it lel
>They're actually super very cool and don't care at all they're just ruining threads.
The sincerity hiding behind irony and aloof shit died in 2011.
Everyone knows you're Genuinely Angry.
>so obviously evil he might wind up not being evil just to SUBVERT EXPECTATIONS
Hmmm
Remember when the rest of Deltarune was gonna release all at once but then Toby went back on his word and decided that releasing the game in episode form was more profitable and helps maintain relevance
Is that a bad thing?
i truly believe that chapters 3 to 5 are written to be one continues story arc.
but that's probably me being hyper optimistic
If it was so profitable then why has it been free
Profitable? Anon, 1 and 2 were completely free.
>delt-ACK
Go back, pedo
nice shoulders bro! ywnbaw
Why is this troony groomer projecting at random people?
i think it's best if we just ignore them and not give them any (you)s
you already ruined one thread.
go stay there
As long as they don't start spamming gay porn or CP the Discord raiders are non-existent if you just ignore them and hide their posts. Stop replying to them, guys.
take some time to feel your adam's apple son it's what you truly are. stop wearing the wrong clothes cowboy! It's pretty cringe for a man to be doing that shit
she's adorable
DUMB STUPID COW
>queen slurp sounds
>frieza slurp but with queen
imagine
Well Internet?
Where is it?
WHERE IS THE TASQUE MANAGER IN THE SINGING DRESS!?
AND WHERE THE FRICK IS THE PORN OF HER IN SAID DRESS (TORN)
Damn furries work quick.
holy shit it's been like 2 hours
I really wish these frickers would stay on model, I like slim Tasque
I had something I was gonna post
But I figured this
exact kind of post would come up.
Also since it isn't fast enough either it's not funny.
Not that hard when the c**t uses the same mating press template over 600 times.
You write like a homosexual
Everyone writes like homosexuals anon,
it's just how much pile of sticks they want to put on their post.
man that image is embarrassing. You're more of a homosexual than I thought
So, a Late 2023/Early 2024 release date is basically confirmed?
I'm hoping summer 2023. September/October same year at worst.
I want to believe mid-2023, but in my heart I know it will take longer
I fricking called this shit ages ago and gays swore it'd be out this year LMAO.
KNEEL
What are the predicted Dark World themes again?
>1: Board & card games
>2: The internet & video games
>3: Television & cartoons
>4: ?
>5: ?
>6: ?
>7: ?
chapter 4 is jazz music
4 = church
5 = asgore's home
6 = town carnival
7 = gaster's basement
If you've finished chapters 1 and 2 does you save data get carried over to the full game or what? Has Toby confirmed anything about this?
It probably does.
seeing as how chapter 1 saves transferred over to chapter 2 when it launched, we can assume the saves carry over to chapter 3 and beyond
it is all one game after all
Yeah, but by the time 3/4/5 (first paid chapters) are put out I'm going to go through 1 and 2 again regardless.
I don't see why not, Chapter 2 already comes with 5 empty slots for the other 5 chapters .
Well lads, I'm satisfied. I'm gonna go sleep for 3 years while waiting for the release now.
All I expected was a screenshot and an IOU but instead we got
>kris hangin' out with susie
>three songs
>queen slurps
>TASQUE
>the cops are gone
amazing
Slightly schizo theory inbound: I think the SURVEY_PROGRAM and Gastr aspects of Deltarune are going to be memory holed by Toby Fox on purpose. You cannot get the original survey program exe on the deltarune website, and the chapter 1 and 2 bundle allows skipping the character creation bit entirely. In a few years only a few of us are actually going to remember Deltarune as it happened, and I think Toby is doing this on purpose.
And just when you think it's been dropped completely, months after the last chapter releases the game will get a stealth update, and immediately after beating the game and starting a new game, you will be walking and noclip into the deltarooms, where deltarune himself will show up and reveal that you were gaster the whole time
based Toby. the dating parts in UT were the worst parts.
What's "TEG" and "TF"
The Egregious Genderer and Toby "Don't Call Me Radiation" Fox
It's edited to include Deltarune stuff, but it's an excerpt of an old interview with Toby Fox (TF) by some website (TEG) regarding UT (Undertale)
>2022 will literally have no worthwhile game releases after all
im going to kill myself
DO
NOT
TRUST
>He knows that we know that he knows that we know that he knows that we know that he's evil.
I can fix him
My wiener can fix him
my ass can fix him
so is sans a prototype schizo boss??
>gaster connections (literally uses gaster blasters)
>can only be found in a huge hidden secret (geno route)
>is not that important in the neutral/pacifist route
>has some meta knowledge (atleast aware of timeline stuff)
That's reductive. Sans is just as compelling as Spamton on a surface level, but more sympathetic and relatable. Prototype is the wrong word, more like he was the first kind of super boss in a TF game.
to be honest i feel like sans isn't really as polished and well excuted as jevil and spamton.
their fights just feel more special and fun
Well that's kind of the issue there.
Spamton and Jevil are actually meant to be fun and completable.
Sans exists to be a technically possible nuisance that is actively unpleasant.
He's the undertale equivalent of Kaizo.
Incidentally with the same kind of thing going on where people don't realize the joke.
Sans isn't that hard, anon
You are counting twitch thots with the motor skills of a child as your peers
Congratulations on being a fantastic example of what I just said.
You're a moron, anon
to be fair he's not wrong. put sans into a proper shmup and he's stage 3 at best.
btw undertale has focus mechanic; you are slower when holding X.
however, most of the game is so piss easy you will never need it (and I don't think the game actually tells you about it, does it?)
>you are slower when holding X
This has to be bullshit, right?
no he's right, it's not in deltarune for some reason though
it is in deltarune
i think deltarune even tells you about it
"people" who don't think ralsei is supicious as all hell have never read a story before in their lives
>he's not wrong. put sans into a proper shmup and he's stage 3 at best
That's not the point.
Yeah the point is that you think sans isn't fun, so much so that you think that's the point of the fight, when he is fun
You can't just port UT patterns 1:1 to other shmups, because UT focuses on the fact you have a tiny bounding box. Also half of Sans's patterns are gravity-based with platforms.
>because UT focuses on the fact you have a tiny bounding box
a good deal of Touhou attacks don't require you to use that much of the screen though. mostly horizontal movement with some vertical.
there are some spellcards that force you to actually utilize the space the game gives you (like Yukari's swastika thing or Clownpiece's stars and stripes) but certainly not the main kind.
I mean, why else would one of the main tips for newbies be "stop moving so much"
Okay, can you vacate this thread now?
no
I vehemently disagree. The Sans fight isn't as hard as Jevil or as visually interesting as Spamton, but it's still plenty fricking challenging and Sans just does it for me more because he's not crazy. He's just far gone from depression and copes with humor.
But Sans is harder than Jevil
if hes evil ill side with him idc i just want goat bussy
>Ralsei: I- I am evi-
>Me: Plap Plap Plap
>Ralsei: i'm going to k-
>Me: Plap Plap Plap
>Ralsei: i'm not a bi-
>Me: SPLUUUUURRP
In terms of difficulty for me
Sans>Undyne>Spamton(Snowgrave)>Jevil>Spamton
Snograve Spamton was on par with Sans in difficulty. Genocide route Undyne really isn't that difficult of a fight, hell I'd put her below Jevil.
>Snograve Spamton was on par with Sans in difficulty
not even close
>No hope for release this year or even early next year.
At least I can get some shit done now without being severely distracted.
I KNOW YOU'RE IN HERE RADIATION SHOW YOURSELF
don't call me radiation
>mostly done work on ch3 and 4
shit we're getting this next Christmas, holy frick it's hard waiting
Not jerking off to Muffet half way through Spider Dance > Sans > Undying > Jevil > Spamton NEO
what are you even ranking
Looks like difficulty
People who think Ralsei is evil have never read a story before in their lives. He might potentially become an antagonist in order to make Kris happy, but that's not that same thing, and seems unlikely too.
The logic of these unfortunate individuals is apparently 'he is nice so he must be bad'. I can only hope these people get the help and care they need.
he's a little bawd that's what he is
The "DM self-insert" theory is the best one. Ralsei clearly wants everything to "work" under whatever pretext of the word he's operating under. The bigger mystery is why.
And bigger than that, I'm a lot more interested in the social dynamics of Noelle and Kris's family. Like yeah, everyone freaked out about Snowgrave but let's look at it:
Seems Dess died in a blizzard after the kids went snowblind. Asgore was the sheriff but couldn't find Dess, so Noelle's mom, the mayor, flips her shit and ruins his life over it - or possibly. At a minimum she fires him.
So a hook for me is, exactly how tragic is all this? If the mayor made Asgore into a small town pariah, then no wonder Toriel left him, it was the only way for her and the kids to pick up the pieces. Also Kris would have a really firm reason past angst to avoid Asgore and have conflicted feelings about him.
Then in that case Noelle is really important because she was a close friend once, and is a peer, but now belongs to a family that really shattered Kris's. That'd make Snowgrave a revenge by proxy story, where instead of reconciliation you ruin Noelle's life. Get back at the mayor. Her husband is already dying, Dess is dead, so now if you wreck Noelle she'd have nothing.
BUT that's all very heavy and melodramatic and it doesn't seem like Noelle has any guilt over you so I figure the conflict has to be lighter and Dess dying is as severe as the story gets.
why did nobody question ralsei travelling between dark worlds when the rule about darkners only existing in their home worlds was established
At the time they found out, they were focused on Lancer. It wouldn't be surprising if they ask about it in the next chapter assuming things aren't perpetually hectic.
The fact that nobody really questions or interacts with Ralsei unless they're Kris or Susie is probably foreshadowing to something. Noelle is surprised and confused by what looks like a younger Asriel showing up in a Black Mage costume and she immediately makes no further mention of it.
I find it really weird too. It's not even a Darkner thing because they interact with those just fine, it's specifically Ralsei who slips by unnoticed. Even Queen completely missed him while capturing everyone else.
Even Ralsei brings this up during the Swan ride.
He mentions he's not even sure what "Being Ralsei-like" even is.
Did Roulx become stone too? I don't quite remember
yeah he did, he only gets partially stoned after his ship battle and complains about it
Yes. The excuse for now is that if a Darkner doesn't fit the environment they turn into stone, and since we don't actually know what Ralsei IS we can't really contest whether he'd "fit in the Cyber World.
And on that note, playing cards are not out of place in a home, I don't think. And you still have Lancer and Rouxls in your inventory.
But you can play solitaire on a computer.
Kris's spacious pants-hole can support all Darkner life
Fools, there are THREE Ralseis, only one is evil
Reminder that G*ster will continue to be weird non-diagetic entity in the game proper, and windings will just tease random cryptic bullshit to get autists invested.
>says he looks forward to "creating a new future with you"
>game description keeps flip-flopping between "one ending" and "one ending?"
The normal game will always end the same. The REAL ending will require you to follow game-breaking instructions, from the man himself.
Why is this game filled with furry shit?
Because why not?
How else would you make monsters
The creator is a furry
I hope future battles allow you to make use of the fight command. I liked that in Queen's fight it's actually faster to attack the barrier than it is to do the Toast act.
Are you ready to be cucked?
If I pick Snowgrave, yeah. Noelle only makes any moves on Susie successfully in that route. You... ARE playing pacifist + schizo bosses, aren't you, Anon?
>Kris, thank you, for being a mass murderer for our sake.
I wish I had gotten to this thread earlier.
It was mainly a lot of wojack, nick avocado, and literal actual CP spam by a turk
Exactly
You're thinking of a different thread.
That was the other thread
id like him to subvert his dogshit fanbase by stop making bad games for tumblrites and redditors
you're playing a childrens game made for """"adults""""
lmao kys
mad cuz bad
Hear hear. I only play Assassin's Creed, The Last Of Us, Far Cry - games for adults with mature themes.
I can't stand the writing in these games, it's too performative and pander-y
does it also insist upon itself?
You could say so
I think Alphys's dialogue about anime in Undertale is going to date that game hard in the coming decades. Deltarune is a lot better in that regard.
elaborate please
All the characters talk and behave like they know they're talking and performing for an audience rather than in an organic way that tries to sell you on the believability on the universe, imagine a play in which the actors constantly turned around and made remarks at the audience or exaggerated and changed their lines to get a reaction rather than say something that would make logical sense within the story
Ralsei knows he's in a game, Sans knows SOMETHING is wrong with the world, and everyone else are monsters in a video game. It's a shame you can't get into it. There's a reason beyond being insufferable that people still talk about UT 7 years later and why people are loving Deltarune.
It's especially bad in the flavor(?) text, i.e. when the game is talking to the player by describing what is happening, it's trying to be jokey and quirky way too hard
Example?
It's still you, determination, fluffy boys, almost all spare/battle text etc
And this is what I mean by UT being well crafted. The flavor text is provided by Chara, who was just a child when she died.
https://determinators.tumblr.com/post/159674581147/greetings-uh-so-ive-been-working-on-this
This is NOT a dumb theory, or grasping at straws. The only thing missing is Toby Fox saying "yeah that's true."
Doesn't make it any less insufferable
We can only agree to disagree. I never had a problem with it in the first place, and it only got more interesting with the knowledge that all of it is Chara.
>The flavor text is provided by Chara
INCORRECT YOU FRICKING moron
How so? The page is pretty crystal clear about it.
>My bed
The overwhelmingly common critique of chapter 2 was the shipshit with Susie and Noelle, yeah. But thankfully Toby Fox included the weird route for anyone who hates it.
Chara occasionally narrates during the genocide route =/= all narration is Chara
>There's a reason beyond being insufferable that people still talk about UT 7 years later and why people are loving Deltarune.
I mean people talk about Homestuck too but that was terrible
Sure, but anyone dismissing UT as terrible is being disingenuous. There are flaws like Alphys's personality seemingly necessitating talking about anime and convincing her friends it's real, or Toriel being a fricking c**t and nobody calling her out, but UT remains a well crafted and incredibly unique experience among video games.
>and convincing her friends it's real
Does she? I thought that was just Undyne and to a lesser extent Papyrus just assuming things and running with it.
It's been a while, you could be right.
>Eh, not many ways to frick up a glorified VN
Like I said, disingenuous. UT has a similar combat system to any jrpg ever created. Would you dismiss those games as glorified VNs?
>Earthbound, etc.
Point out to me the part in Earthbound where you get to remove the decorations from a monster deer only to put some back on to be a dick and get a humorous exchange. There are actual flaws in UT, you're not pointing them out.
>but UT remains a well crafted
Eh, not many ways to frick up a glorified VN
>and incredibly unique experience among video games.
Unless you've played Earthbound, Moon, Persona, etc
>not many ways to frick up a glorified VN
Game would not be even half as interesting if it didn't have the combat system.
>Unless you've played Earthbound, Moon, Persona, etc
I've played all of those.
can you give an example? i felt that way about Xenoblade dialogue but not about deltarune
Are you talking about Deltarune or Undertale? I thought DR had very natural dialogue. Susie saying in chapter 1
>Hey Kris I think this closet's...broken
when the closet doesn't seem to end comes to mind.
I find there's only stilted and "performative" dialogue when it comes to characters that are definitively aware they're in fiction, ie Sans, Jevil and Spamton
what if hes not evil but he does something thats so morally gray that the entire community will argue about it for maybe 15 years later
It's very clear that he values Lightners over Darkners, and Susie is VERY attached to Lancer and Noelle seems to be attached to Queen in the end. At some point these mindsets will collide and shit will hit the fan.
I cant believe ralsei killed 6 million darkners
Pure goat boy can't be evil
I'm so fricking sick of the wacky unfunny shit in Deltarune. All the ship baiting is garbage and hardly constitutes a 'game'. What's even the point unless you're an easily amused redditor?
>cutesy character is evil
>evil character turns good
OH WOW MY MIND IS EXPLODE
BRAVO HE DID IT AGAIN, IM CRYING AND CHANGING MY GENDER
Truly the Christopher Nolan of video games.
this but unironically except the last part because who would want to be a f*moid lmao
rent free