So what did he plagiarize his music from this time?
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So what did he plagiarize his music from this time?
So what did he plagiarize his music from this time?
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does reusing your own music count as plagerization
Tchaikovsky did it all the time so nah
It is known as self plagiarism but it isn't illegal unlike regular plagiarism
But it does question one's credibility.
Nothing. He knows he doesn't have to try at all.
Shinmyoumaru's theme for the AI professor battle
link?
Haven't heard that battle theme yet
not that guy but the part after the beat drops
it has similar vibes
Funny how Pokemon has multiple plagiarized songs but nobody cares, only when Toby Fox does it
post proof
that's public domain
You can plagiarize public domain shit, you just can't get sued for it, it's an art moral thing the legal stuff is just for economic disputes
It's plagiarism if you're trying to pass it off as your own original creation, as it stands route 1 is pretty much a 1:1 allusion.
If you include Dracula in your game you're not actually plagiarizing Bram Stoker, you're making a reference.
But where does Masuda clarify the tune is a reference to Golden Slippers?
>Hurr where does Konami clarify Castlevania is a reference to Dracula?
Dude every american knows Polly Wolly Doodle. Even the wikipedia page mentions pokemon.
But how does that help clear Masuda from plagiarism since there's no way to tell if he's passing it off as his own or not
Are you being daft on purpose? It's implicit, it's a universally known work and there's no attempt to hide it. If you slap a stupid brown hat/coat and a magnifying glass on pikachu you don't have to make a statement saying "we're actually making a reference to the public domain character sherlock holmes please don't assume this is our original idea, we're not taking credit for it"
Sherlock Holmes wasn't public domain at the time.
>When the route kicks in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWbUtdx827g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GWv8JaJpc8
https://youtu.be/4hDgOITtMbE
https://youtu.be/77R1Wp6Y_5Y?t=124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-QPI3hKxDg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOuVKxzW4Do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOUL4u_F_dI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9wuRWVwwOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv8g5u55QFA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIpMnJkPZjI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0HuqoKre3Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_Z4G97whBI
Are you sure that Shining Force one isn't a reference to Dragon Quest III?
No 21 Guns?
21 Guns was a rip-off the the same ELO song and came out after DP.
Oh right, I missed that
Do you seriously have this saved to a .txt on your desktop for you to whip out every time you seeToby mentioned? Rent-free
???
Toby Fox didn't work on the old games.
mogged
>didn't even mention the most famous one
this is the most famous one
it would have been funnier if instead of .mpeg it said .mpreg
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I don't think what he did was wrong but I honestly still don't understand why he had to do that. Doing and OST for Pokemon of all things has to be one of the crown achievements of his life and he chose to be so lazy about it.
But, then again, it is also my favorite theme in SW&SH, so maybe he just used the best he had.
That might have happened because it was a cool thing to do.
Gym ledaer theme recycles the choir from the SS one, and it's much more boring in general. Feels like a soulless version of the real thing.
eh i like the chorus usage better in SV
How does he keep dodging lawsuits?
He didn't move to Japan for no reason
>He didn't move to [Country infamous for strict copyright law and "guilty until proven innocent" legal system] for no reason
dumbass
>Japan
>strict copyright law
they actually do have very strict copyright law the reason there isn't an issue with doujinshi is because they have a culture of allowing it since that how most artists get their start. Anything else like piracy they are very strict about
>im-fricking-plying
>I actually opened these expecting them to be similar and get at least a sensible chuckle
These are not the same you tone/melody deaf illiterate freaks.
You people who sit around with your thumbs up your ass reaching hard for a le epic own xddd are giving anyone with legitimate criticisms of things a bad look.
have a nice day you lead poisoned troglodyte.
>They both have electric guitars!
Top kek, nice meme senpai
None
Just rehashing his old stuff which he had already stol- i mean, was inspired by other music!
Galar's gym theme offspring
Average un*va city theme
But many also feature Kanto and Johto gym theme and champion theme
others feel like Kalos and Alola, this one was definitely made with Tapus banger in mind:
Here I hear some Alola and Galar again
Not sure if tributing or copying each single former gen OST for Paldea.
There are some other areas and routes or wild encounter themes (multiple) not mentioned that might sound more unique to Gen 9.
Of course not all of them are from him and shit like Lance's theme has been alreadyused several times plus the evergreen gym theme
Champion also has this theme parts mixed in for sure (try listen at x1.15 speed), some Colosseum and Battle Revolution inspirations sprinkled around the OST too.
But which ones did he actually make? Recycling the shit out of older Pokemon games has been happening since at least Canalave City.
That's a mystery that's why I put the hands forward talking about the OST in general, I'm mostly familiar with Pokemon series, other franchises and media might find more OST similarities with theirs or other artists.
Fox and Ichinose & co might recognize their recurring music gimmicks better.
Area Zero Overworld,
mix some Bjork moans with Dimitri from Paris and PMD final rocket tree boss theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FNJTfXKZxY & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsxJSgPv6o4
Whoever composed this theme clearly used this famous sexy track
That's a better example that isn't just Pokemon media recycling.
how are any of these ripping or copying? that's just not what those terms mean. If anything, it's taking inspiration from older soundtracks, sometimes VERY heavily, but outright plagiarism? like come the frick on.
if that's plagiarism, fricking kill the entire software development industry right now because ho boy you have no idea how many pieces of code are straight up taken from stackoverflow, or built upon ideas in those pieces.
You are correct, but not in a way that is viable.
>comparing code which is pragmatic to music which is artistic
Literally apples to oranges
From the interviews about it when Toby was first revealed to be doing some of the music, iirc he even stated himstelf it's really more of a situation of him sending over ideas for melodies, tempos, etc, and then handing it over to the GF sound design team for polishing, orchestration, etc.
If Toby was doing some of these with the little homages to past Pokemon themes, It's probably the sound team putting that sort of stuff in.
What I really do not understand is the lack of typical Spanish sounds, the guiar is present but not as much as expected, also other cliche rhythms, there is more Ibiza dance and house music instead beside the tributes to past gens.
Yeah, there's a few gems like the Area 3 Field Theme but agreed
with toby fox making osts i was hoping for some fast paced over the top samba battle music similar to heartache or spear of justice
For the DLC Battle Festival
Paldea Gym isn't just Galar's gym chorus but also bits of Oleana's theme.
>Galar's gym theme offspring
in trailer it was good, and the actual remix is fricking awful jesus christ
The Gym Leader song is really sexy, and makes me think of Iono
if he made original music you'd say "it sounds nothing like pokemon"
when he uses well known leitmotifs and tries to retain the feel of other games you say "HE PLAGARIZED IT!!!"
there seriously is no pleasing you people
he uses well known leitmotifs and it sounds nothing like pokemon
He stole it from this song
Using the classic gym theme in a cheap trainer battle theme feels almost like an insult.
Is it possible to make a music by making another one upside down or something?
Wait, he worked on pokemon? Would explain why most songs are crap. The wild battle theme is the worst so far.
There are multiple
Most non battle music in this game is good or decent at least. Battle music is shit and doesn't sound like pokemon. Guess who made most battle music?
Go Ichinose?
I wonder if he got asked to just rip off his past music to lure in undertalegays or if he seriously just used his secret lab music from undertale for this fricking secret lab post game
>morons once again don't know what sampling is
You think he got a license to do so?
You don't need a license to sample something you moron
You do if you want to be safe legally
None if the songs brought up are even sampling. It's just reaching. Having songs similar-but-not-identical progressions, bpms, melody movment isn't illegal, music doesn't work that way and never willl.
No wonder the music industry is like that.
Uh you can hear behind me now that's uh I think they're called Blue
Death
>muh sampling
aka the literal musicgay term for copying
If there's a term for it clearly no one gives enough of a shit in the actual music industry and this board is making a big deal out of nothing
>GAMEFREAK WOULD NEVER SAMPLE/PLAGERIZE
ITS A PUBLIC DOMAIN CHILDREN'S SONG
It is intentionally changed just enough for them to be able to claim it is something new. What they clearly did because there has never been any fricking reference to the original song anywhere.
Here's an example of someone using a public-domain song properly:
Here, the source material is actually well-known, the track itself goes out of its way to follow the original enough to the point of it being completely indistinguishable etc.
GF's only saving grace here is just how fricking common shit like this is in Japan. People still dickride the shit out of Uematsu and he didn't even bother looking for multiple sources for different tracks "he" was creating.
Is that a Plated Roller?
all this talk of toby and we still don't know which tracks outside of a couple he composed
Gym's leader theme is a carbon copy of What Planet Is This? From Cowboy Bepop.
bitches stole my fricking fangame's gym leader battle song's structure to a T for Galar, but I stole from pokemon XY gym leader battle and Tintin Destination adventure boss song for mine too so fair game I guess
So is he a furry or something?
ya think? check this out see how long you can watch
I had no strong opinions about him until now but this is disgusting.
Touhou
Holy shit this thread is inflicting psychic fricking damage on me. I can FEEL myself becoming dumber from the radiation coming off you people.
Holy frick NONE of you know anything about what you're talking about it's outstanding. I'm fricking flabbergasted. Do any of you ACTUALLY believe the shit you're peddling, or is it just done in an excuse to baby rage at something?
The question is rhetorical, because
>look where we are
but holy shit even after the 10+ years I've browsed this cess pit sometimes I'll see a thread like this and it's like a sudden punch to the gut that reminds me you're all drooling dented skull morons
It's all in good fun Toby
I'm going to kiss you on the lips right on the lips mouth to mouth with tongue I'm slippin that shit in we gonna be holding hands and-
>grabs your crotch aggressively
oop I cumbed
>omg he used the tunak tunak theme!
look I can read the youtube comments too
More importantly, did he insert the deltarune explosion sound on any track? Discovering the madman did that on Marine's song had me hoping he pulled it off here as well.
Did he even write the whole soundtrack or just select songs?
The music direction certainly feels a bit different this time round
It is a mystery