So what kind of machine did they make again?
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Imagination, they never mention time travel once.
Stargate
this
Yeah
They imagined it was a time machine.
Some kind of pokemon creation device which they incorrectly believed was a time machine up to their death.
A robotic anus.
>ok but look
>it's a machine
>it creates pokemon
>these pokemon seem to be from the past or present
>as in timewise
>the superscience holographic ai (which exists by the way) calls it a time machine
>but its all a red herring in reality paradox pokemon are a magic turtles dreams or some stupid shit like that
You don't understand Gamefreak's complex and imaginative storytelling
The super advanced AI that was breaking down when you get into Area Zero. What a shit wish.
pokemon seem to be from the past or present
>>as in timewise
>>the superscience holographic ai (which exists by the way) calls it a time machine
Bingo. The AI that had the memories of the professor who believed the things illustrated in Occulture that were based on the book they liked were really from the past or future.
So we know that it can't be a time machine, otherwise it would actually pull Pokemon from the past or future.
Can you show me the drawings from the occulture you keep talking about
>Can you show me the drawings from the occulture you keep talking about
? Show me the drawings in Heath's record for Walking Wake and Iron Crown.
Also explain why the entries for each paradox are only said to "resemble" or "match a similar description" instead of just saying they are described in the book.
Can you show me the drawings from the occulture, my game doesn't have them
Time Machine
Timetravgination machine.
The wiener sucker-o-matic
It was so good that it broke time and space and those pokemon tried to use it to suck their wieners.
but it was flawed because it made those Pokemon al homosexuals.
Technically, I do think they made any kind of machine.
A severely-neglect-your-child machine 🙁
The Occulture entries throw conjecture and bullshit onto the existing descriptions (depending on the game) as well as make up their own shit (for the Paradox 'mons from the other game who don't actually exist in-universe to whichever you send them to). Why? Because the journals were already dismissed as nonsensical fantasy, so they threw in obviously outlandish claims on top of that.
If the Professor had a copy of their respective books, why would they view Occulture as anything other than reading material? The creatures are ALREADY described - or drawn, we don't know - in the book, like Great Tusk or Iron Treads.
>If the Professor had a copy of their respective books, why would they view Occulture as anything other than reading material?
Based trips anon. Yeah something doesn't line up between the professor having Occulture and Heath's record not mentioning anything about the future or past from what we know.
Then there's the three missing Occulture entries. Why give it to the professor if it's not significant? They have absolutely no reason to look twice at them.
I've actually just realized something pretty significant.
The Occulture issue on Iron Treads/Great Tusk mentions that there've been sightings in an arid corner of Paldea. Its also known to be a Titan of some kind.
But Sada/Turo specifically says that them breaking out of Area Zero has only been fairly recent, since pokemon like Great Tusk/Iron Treads have been brought to the present.
>"But we've begun to see Pokémon appear that can break the barrier—such as Great Tusk. Eventually they will break free of this walled garden known as Area Zero and run rampant across the Paldea region"
So surely this means the issue came AFTER the Paradox Donphan had already been brought to the current time and broken out of Area Zero for there to be sightings?
>I've actually just realized something pretty significant.
>The Occulture issue on Iron Treads/Great Tusk mentions that there've been sightings in an arid corner of Paldea. Its also known to be a Titan of some kind.
>But Sada/Turo specifically says that them breaking out of Area Zero has only been fairly recent, since pokemon like Great Tusk/Iron Treads have been brought to the present.
The time travel explanation is that the Paradox Pokemon did in fact exist but are conveniently displaced from location and record until the time machine brings them back. i.e, The "Paradox" is that they weren't reported to have been seen until the time machine brought them there.
The imagination explanation is that the sightings in Occulture, including the other ones mentioned there, are all big-foot tier in line with how the picture from the book is played off; ergo, you find Iron Treads/Great Tusk there BECAUSE it was stated to have been seen in Occulture, not the other way around.
the occulture are quite literally bigfoot fan magazines. i don't know which of you schizos decided they have any meaning to any theory.
>the occulture are quite literally bigfoot fan magazines.
Paradox Pokemon are bigfoot fan creature designs, so yeah. That's the point.
anon i have something to break to you: pokemon aren't real
>i don't know which of you schizos decided they have any meaning to any theory.
The paradoxes are inextricably linked to Occulture because they are referenced in it regardless of version whereas the Scarlet/Violet book is version exclusive.
You also have Walking Wake / Iron Leaves which are teased to be related to the sketch from the expedition book, but the Paradoxes we're getting in the DLC line up with the Occulture entries we are missing in the base game for #1-#3.
Either way, you can't separate the Paradox from them. It's just a matter of if you take it at face value (time travel) or believe it to be a bunch of bullshit (imagination).
If i author a magazine about the bible does that make it inextricably linked to the bible and make it true
>If i author a magazine about the bible does that make it inextricably linked to the bible and make it true
The point is that it isn't true under imagination theory. But if Jesus came again and was closer to the description authored in your magazine than the actual bible then yes, some would think it's true.
>write about jesus in magazine
>base that off of previous information
>OMG GUYS LOOK IT'S REAL
this is your brain
about jesus in magazine
>>base that off of previous information
>>OMG GUYS LOOK IT'S REAL
>this is your brain
You must be misunderstanding because I think imagination/dreamlantis is more likely. Taking Occulture at face value just because the Paradoxes from the book became real has to be the most moronic take from timegays I've seen.
anon we both know you're the only one pushing this argument, my question is why do you think you're fooling anyone
>my question is why do you think you're fooling anyone
If you think Occulture is anything but a senationalist tabloid despite how it's presented in-game, that's on you, man. There is zero reason to take it at face value and even less reason for the professor to take an interest in it if the scarlet/violet book was the only necessary source.
you are the only person claiming time travel supports occulture, when you have been told in every conversation that no one has claimed this. you do this in every thread. what medications do you take?
>you are the only person claiming time travel supports occulture
Time travel posits that the Pokemon are from the past or the future despite all evidence suggesting otherwise. No other source in the game implies this except the professor who, you guessed it, read Occulture.
Suggesting there's anything more to it than that and that the magazine is actually truthful is insane.
Anon, I'm unsure if you understand what a causal loop is. Everything in the story until Briar does whatever she does in order to prove Heath's records to be true is instrumental to the plot and needs to happen. The professor is inspired by the Paradox Book, and from the information we have, got the idea to create a time machine through occulture. The game didn't say what periods of time the pokemon were strictly pulled from, and if anything imaginationgays claim that it can only be set to 1 period of time even though the occulture suggests several paradox mons are from different points in time. Hell, if the professor really wanted the Paradox Pokemon, they could've just set the machine to 200 years ago and snatched all of them anyways.
The point is, getting the idea from the magazines doesn't make them legitimate. Realistically if the story winds up being a causal loop, all of that is necessary to the plot anyways because it's already determined to happen. It's not going to fully make sense because Event A doesn't occur without Event C, and everything inbetween are influenced by Event C.
>and if anything imaginationgays claim that it can only be set to 1 period of time
Imaginationgays claim that it isn't a time machine and it's highly likely we'll end up using it in the DLC for something else.
Once again, you're misconstruing points to make arguments no one is making. The claim previously made is: if it's a time machine the machine is only set to one point in time, and that the machine can't be set to any other point in time, so the paradox mons can't possibly be brought here through time travel.
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Recent theories seem to think its a dream machine. Connecting gen 9 to gen 5's dream world concept sounds cool so I hope it's that
Here’s something they should have built. A not-dying machine.
The AI is an unreliable narrator, the professor is alive.
That's impossible. Literally nothing even hints towards that.
>taking the game at face value
The entire story is a lie and you might as well pretend none of it happened. The entire game is about lying to you to reveal the real truth.
Anon I see your point, but the way the story frames things it would need to come up with a MASSIVE asspull to justify the professor still being alive. They would need to explain
>why they didn't contact Arven after all this time ("a couple of years" according to him)
>how they not only survived but also gotten out of AZ or at the very least the lab without the AI noticing
>what they have been doing all this time
Even the old "hurr durr they had amnesia" trope wouldn't explain things enough.
Uhhhh it’s actually imagination!
Everything the AI tells you is a lie the professor programmed it to think they were built and to think the professor died when they actually just wished to be in their own dream world with the paradox pokemon
A time machine
>B-But muh offscreen bullshit with zero payof-
Time. Machine.
I won
>>B-But muh offscreen bullshit with zero payof-
>Time. Machine.
>I won
If it's a time machine why doesn't it pull Pokemon from other time periods?
Why do people believe in time travel when there's zero evidence of it in game?
Because the game uses the phrase "time machine," and this is a Game Freak game made for children. The plot is surface level.
>Because the game uses the phrase "time machine," and this is a Game Freak game made for children
So if traveling through time is all it takes for a Pokemon to be a paradox why isn't Celebi a paradoxmon? What about anything you transfer via Bank or HOME?
they didn't. the time machine was just a really-weird looking butt. they're poopadox pokémon.
A time machine… made from their imagination
I can't wait for Kieran to use the turtle's power to turn us into an ogerpon then proceeds to capture us.