cause my friend had issues on SUSE, swapped to Arch and stopped having issues
I never had these issues because I've never used SUSE as my primary distro either, just to briefly test and had issues with it on Rise using Nvidia drivers before
>cause my friend had issues on SUSE, swapped to Arch and stopped having issues
good for him, but I think it's a bit hasty to chalk it up to the distro if you don't even read logs or troubleshoot.
>imagine being too trans to use Windows
too trans to use Windows
so trannies are computer-literate and you're not. nice self-own chud.
I use Mint.
But it doesn't really matter. They can all do Proton, and although many native games list Ubuntu in their system requirements, most of them don't actually require Ubuntu specifically.
avoid opensuse
it breaks random shit like EAC games or VR
cause my friend had issues on SUSE, swapped to Arch and stopped having issues
I never had these issues because I've never used SUSE as my primary distro either, just to briefly test and had issues with it on Rise using Nvidia drivers before
Mint, its made specifically for windows user who are trying to migrate so a lot of stuff is very easy and intuitive, there is even a store to get all your programs for free instead of having to do commands to download them.
How do I make multi monitor setups better in mint cinnamon?
In windows, everything just worked across my two screens of different resolutions using the AMD software, but Linux doesn't have an equivalent so I cant do shit like super resolution or making Steam games start on my secondary screen
Does Wayland do better?
Is this the Linux thread?
How the frick do I un-update Steam? This new version with the new UI is fricking slowing my computer to a crawl any time anything happens
And how do I keep it from updating
I think through apt, I genuinely don't remember
This Mint install is like 6 years old at this point
Downgrade command in terminal, but first check what's in the apt-cache so you see what versions are available.
As for the slowdowns on your steam client, try toggling off all hardware acceleration in steam settings, and un-tick smooth scrolling.
>Disabling secureboot is also a requirement.
why? isn't everything signed? lol tainted kernel
As for secureboot, you technically can roll out your own keys, assuming you're masochistic enough to go through the pain of setting up your own PK, KEK, and DBs.
FAQ states this about Nobara and how cancerous microsoft is.
>6. Is Nobara compatible with SecureBoot? > – No. Nobara ships with a kernel that has been custom patched and is built and hosted on COPR. Packages hosted on COPR repositories have no simple way of signing the kernel after it’s been built. Additionally The boot shim has to be signed by Microsoft, whom have several stipulations that need to be met including the fee:
>You need a fricking fee to get proper secureboot
Frick that.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The boot shim has to be signed by Microsoft
I repeat, you technically can sign your shit and use your own keys.
secureboot
proper would be rolling your own keys. if anything, trusting money-grubbing corporations is the opposite of secure, and the reason 'secure boot' is a meme.
11 months ago
Anonymous
you can use your own keys, but there's no universe where it's not a terrible idea to make the default keys be under the control of the company that has the majority of the personal computer marketshare. Specially when you have shit like this https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/14/microsoft_drivers_ransomware_attacks/
11 months ago
Anonymous
>but there's no universe where it's not a terrible idea to make the default keys be under the control of the company that has the majority of the personal computer marketshare.
thanks for rephrasing my point.
anyway, it's a moot point because no one but turbo spergs with nothing to do in their lives would do it. however, I'm glad the option exists as a check against microisraelite trying to pull anything funny.
My Linux distro path started with Ubuntu 10, like over 10 years ago when they still sent out free CDs, I was just a young kid and it couldn't play Windows games reliably yet so I quickly went back to windows after playing around with it a bit
Now I use arch btw
allowing free software to be used for non free purposes is worse than telling people "don't be an asshat, don't dox people, don't troll”, at least on my book
11 months ago
Anonymous
It was always going to be used for non free purposes you idiot, you think these frickers would admit to stealing? Further, that's a very bad reading of what these fricking codes of conduct are for, they're not saying "don't be rude", they're saying "accept Black person troony propaganda".
11 months ago
Anonymous
link me to the Black person troony propaganda in the kernel or kernel mailing list, they are both public and the coc has been there for 5 years now so I'm sure you have examples.
>It was always going to be used for non free purposes you idiot, you think these frickers would admit to stealing?
Even apple made their patches publicly available because they aer using crossover, whic is gpl. Scummy chinky companies proably won't give a frick, but companies do give a frick in general, otherwise there's no reason why linux would have more development than bsd systems where they aren't obligated to make their changes known.
Open source licenses have also been brought to court in the past, and companies have been amde to comply when the gpl violation has been brought up https://www.lexisnexis.com/community/casebrief/p/casebrief-jacobsen-v-katzer https://lwn.net/Articles/251141/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2009/05/cisco-settles-fsf-gpl-lawsuit-appoints-compliance-officer/
>all replies that mention video games are from Linux users >all Windows user replies are 100% off-topic seethe
Windows has no games. The original post doesn't mention gaming either, so the thread will probably be deleted. Dipshits still haven't learned that actual Linux gaming threads are always left intact while Linux threads with no mention of gaming are routinely deleted.
Switched from 10 to Fedora last week. It's been a rather painless learning experience but a part of me dies every time I boot up and see the word "fedora". Thinking of switching to OpenSUSE cause I like the lizard.
Going to install Pop OS today. Every time I reboot my win 11 computer it begs me to set up a cloud account. And it is the Pro version. There is also a years long bug that MS acknowledges but doesn’t give a shit about apparently where if you have file explorer open, minimize it, and go about your business, at any given random ass time it’ll just bring itself back up again. I’m done.
Dual boot or VM it before you make the switch. Or install on a different drive so you can swap your Win back in case you need something asap you don't yet know how to do on Linux.
Raji. Not recommended unless it's on sale, and at a steep discount at that. The team was one white dude and a bunch of indians, you can guess who did the actual programming.
I installed Gentoo in a VM the other day and it was an interesting learning experience
Not sure I'd install it on bare metal because compiling everything takes a lot of time and I'm not sure the extra ~3% performance is worth the time for me, not that I'm always installing some new program
>Why?
Because it's homosexual posers doing it for the nerd cred. The other half is tech support posts by babbies who get filtered and can't bother to read tutorials, guides, and docs.
I'll agree that some good pointers would be good in some cases >shit that explains configfiles for components and their syntax (xorg.font, fonts.conf, etc.) >writing an udev rule sucks compared to popping open device manager >some options may not be on the GUI depending on your DE, like mouse acceleration
arch-wiki is a decent quick-reference resource though, as it often lists problems and shit to try, compared to reading through the much wordier man and info pages.
>So, which Linux distro to use? >50% is people posting their ebin desktops >the other 50% is people discussing which distro is better
OP asked which distro to use, not about what gaymes to play
It's still wild to me how far along proton (and wine and its components in general) has come in such a "short" time span
Wine has been around for nearly 3 decades and compatibility was hit or miss for most of its life
If you told me 10 years ago I'd soon be able to play the newest AAA games on Linux I wouldn't believe you
do those games have open issues on dxvk's issue tracker?
Raji. Not recommended unless it's on sale, and at a steep discount at that. The team was one white dude and a bunch of indians, you can guess who did the actual programming.
so is this just a basic platform game with an indian theme?
>so is this just a basic platform game with an indian theme?
Yes, which is why it's not worth full price unless you want to feel the atmosphere of mythic India. The game mechanics are not complete enough.
Bottlenecking is the other way around anon, I just upgraded my i5 9400F which WAS the bottleneck plus Nvidia's recent XX60 have been shit, since I don't play AAA console ports this GPU is good enough for another 2 years.
>manjaro
https://manjarno.snorlax.sh/
You like living life on the edge, don't you?
Anyway, if it works, it works. Don't fix what's not broken and all that.
Get a better GPU soon.
People keep talking about this when discussing Manjaro
Like what's literally the worst thing that could happen? If all I do with my pc is browse the web and play games on Steam what's the big deal with lack of security in an OS that barely has any security threats?
>Like what's literally the worst thing that could happen?
A non-working system after an update, and having the update accidentally erase your entire home directory and all your files, although the latter happened to Garuda OS and not Manjaro.
I switched to linux a year ago and between distros I've tried (Manjaro, Ubuntu, Fedora, and Linux Mint) Manjaro is the one that gave me better gaming performance by far compared to the others, should I be really worried about the whole "didn't renew their security thing" thing?
it wouldn't worry about the actual security of your system, but it shows it's not properly managed, specially when they let it happen several times. I'm not the one who linked that, but my problem with manjaro is that despite the fact they're mostly borrowing shit from arch they seem tow ant to focus more on the monetization of the distro than proper community work, at least compared to other arch spin offs. For example, their deal with pine64 https://drewdevault.com/2022/08/18/PINE64-let-us-down.html
>monetization
They're going about it wrong, if they want to monetize, hardware comes first. Look at System76, they focus on selling pre-built and custom assembled PCs while letting Pop! OS be free.
Windows 7
imagine being butthurt
You don't have to imagine.
>no u
that doesn't really work, because they get mad every time they see a penguin and I don't
>it doesn't work because I said so
>I'm not mad because I said so
sure thing bud
>no u, because I said so
enjoy malding
>imagine getting filtered by linux
lol winbabbies can't into computers
>it breaks EAC or VR
Not saying you're wrong, but why are you so quick to blame the distro? The former is literally erratic, shoddy chinkware.
cause my friend had issues on SUSE, swapped to Arch and stopped having issues
I never had these issues because I've never used SUSE as my primary distro either, just to briefly test and had issues with it on Rise using Nvidia drivers before
>cause my friend had issues on SUSE, swapped to Arch and stopped having issues
good for him, but I think it's a bit hasty to chalk it up to the distro if you don't even read logs or troubleshoot.
too trans to use Windows
so trannies are computer-literate and you're not. nice self-own chud.
The windowsgays keep projecting about trannies, they should come out of the closet and get purged for their disgusting behavior.
>imagine being too trans to use Windows
Windows 11
i use arch btw
>i use arch btw
have a nice day Black person
?t=2
Why did she describe what she's wearing? lol
Literally they're doing it for blind people.
Oh. I see.
I wonder if the blind actually want this or if this is just something that inclusivity specialists brainstormed after overdosing on edibles.
They all described what they were wearing and they did it for equity
>how do you do fellow Gankersters! I use YOUR memes! Please subscribe to me!
I use Mint.
But it doesn't really matter. They can all do Proton, and although many native games list Ubuntu in their system requirements, most of them don't actually require Ubuntu specifically.
Install Gentoo.
Anything with Gnome 3 desktop environment as default.
It's the most advanced OS interface on the market.
>Anything with Gnome 3 desktop environment as default.
Which distros? I wanna try them out as long they have GNOME 3 too.
Fedora is the most closely tied with gnome 3 development.
Nobara is a fedora fork with extra shit for normal people.
Fedora is still on GNOME 3? I thought they already upgraded to GNOME 4.
Trick question. You don't.
endeavourOS
openSUSE tumbleweed
nobara when it's ready
pick one of these in KDE flavor
avoid opensuse
it breaks random shit like EAC games or VR
sus
Mint
Slackware
>arch user tranned
>mint user drown
Linuxsirs... I don't feel so good
Good morning Sirs
>>mint user drown
I don't get it
Windians love to post weird things about trannies nobody knows about while they stare at the troony flag in their task bar
That's hilarious.
>troonix OS
>on mission critical system
LOL
Mint, its made specifically for windows user who are trying to migrate so a lot of stuff is very easy and intuitive, there is even a store to get all your programs for free instead of having to do commands to download them.
Nobara. Was made for games and digital work station shit and excels in both.
Same
Win 11
Ubuntu Budgie.
I play games with WINE + Winetricks. I didn't know about Lutris and I was battling config autism at the time.
>no neofetch
Fake linux user! Fake linux user!
Arch to be honest. If you don't want to deal with the install just go with EndeavorsOS it's pretty much archinstall but moron proof
How do I make multi monitor setups better in mint cinnamon?
In windows, everything just worked across my two screens of different resolutions using the AMD software, but Linux doesn't have an equivalent so I cant do shit like super resolution or making Steam games start on my secondary screen
Does Wayland do better?
Is this the Linux thread?
How the frick do I un-update Steam? This new version with the new UI is fricking slowing my computer to a crawl any time anything happens
And how do I keep it from updating
How did you install Steam?
I think through apt, I genuinely don't remember
This Mint install is like 6 years old at this point
Downgrade command in terminal, but first check what's in the apt-cache so you see what versions are available.
As for the slowdowns on your steam client, try toggling off all hardware acceleration in steam settings, and un-tick smooth scrolling.
Artix
Nobara if you just want to game and don't wanna frick around with terminals
Only for an all AMD system.
Kek, yeah forgot nshitia existed
It's also easiest to install Nobara on a PC you put together and not a pre-built or a laptop. Disabling secureboot is also a requirement.
>Disabling secureboot is also a requirement.
why? isn't everything signed? lol tainted kernel
As for secureboot, you technically can roll out your own keys, assuming you're masochistic enough to go through the pain of setting up your own PK, KEK, and DBs.
FAQ states this about Nobara and how cancerous microsoft is.
>6. Is Nobara compatible with SecureBoot?
> – No. Nobara ships with a kernel that has been custom patched and is built and hosted on COPR. Packages hosted on COPR repositories have no simple way of signing the kernel after it’s been built. Additionally The boot shim has to be signed by Microsoft, whom have several stipulations that need to be met including the fee:
>You need a fricking fee to get proper secureboot
Frick that.
>The boot shim has to be signed by Microsoft
I repeat, you technically can sign your shit and use your own keys.
secureboot
proper would be rolling your own keys. if anything, trusting money-grubbing corporations is the opposite of secure, and the reason 'secure boot' is a meme.
you can use your own keys, but there's no universe where it's not a terrible idea to make the default keys be under the control of the company that has the majority of the personal computer marketshare. Specially when you have shit like this https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/14/microsoft_drivers_ransomware_attacks/
>but there's no universe where it's not a terrible idea to make the default keys be under the control of the company that has the majority of the personal computer marketshare.
thanks for rephrasing my point.
anyway, it's a moot point because no one but turbo spergs with nothing to do in their lives would do it. however, I'm glad the option exists as a check against microisraelite trying to pull anything funny.
My Linux distro path started with Ubuntu 10, like over 10 years ago when they still sent out free CDs, I was just a young kid and it couldn't play Windows games reliably yet so I quickly went back to windows after playing around with it a bit
Now I use arch btw
EndeavourOS
I'm not trans, sorry kid.
What do you use then?
uhhh windowsisters they are onto us
Christ, this is fricking disgusting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s1onbEeCzo
OpenBSD is one of the last modern operating systems without homosexualry.
cuck license
No code of conduct.
allowing free software to be used for non free purposes is worse than telling people "don't be an asshat, don't dox people, don't troll”, at least on my book
It was always going to be used for non free purposes you idiot, you think these frickers would admit to stealing? Further, that's a very bad reading of what these fricking codes of conduct are for, they're not saying "don't be rude", they're saying "accept Black person troony propaganda".
link me to the Black person troony propaganda in the kernel or kernel mailing list, they are both public and the coc has been there for 5 years now so I'm sure you have examples.
>It was always going to be used for non free purposes you idiot, you think these frickers would admit to stealing?
Even apple made their patches publicly available because they aer using crossover, whic is gpl. Scummy chinky companies proably won't give a frick, but companies do give a frick in general, otherwise there's no reason why linux would have more development than bsd systems where they aren't obligated to make their changes known.
Open source licenses have also been brought to court in the past, and companies have been amde to comply when the gpl violation has been brought up https://www.lexisnexis.com/community/casebrief/p/casebrief-jacobsen-v-katzer https://lwn.net/Articles/251141/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2009/05/cisco-settles-fsf-gpl-lawsuit-appoints-compliance-officer/
Let's just agree that all OSes have troony/ESG problems. The difference is that the Linux guys are giving us the software for free
>w-we ALL have a troony problem, so just keep quiet ok??
lol
Linux Mint, but in the fringe cases you need proprietary Linux software to work correctly, then Ubuntu is actually the way to go.
Whichever one works for you.
Personally, I use OpenSUSE with xfce.
>all replies that mention video games are from Linux users
>all Windows user replies are 100% off-topic seethe
Windows has no games.
The original post doesn't mention gaming either, so the thread will probably be deleted. Dipshits still haven't learned that actual Linux gaming threads are always left intact while Linux threads with no mention of gaming are routinely deleted.
i await the real thread
Fedora KDE
It just works.
pop_os just werked™ for me because of the built-in extensions
Switched from 10 to Fedora last week. It's been a rather painless learning experience but a part of me dies every time I boot up and see the word "fedora". Thinking of switching to OpenSUSE cause I like the lizard.
SUSE has weird issues with EAC/VR at times
besides that it works
If it makes you feel any better, the name predates the "tip" meme.
I know. I'll get over because, so far, everything I run has been going smoothly and I'd rather not fall into distro hopping.
Fedora + KDE, you can change the splash screen showing the fedora logo that way.
gentoo
I use Arch, but I started with Ubuntu before all of the snap shit so I don't know what to recommend people now.
Going to install Pop OS today. Every time I reboot my win 11 computer it begs me to set up a cloud account. And it is the Pro version. There is also a years long bug that MS acknowledges but doesn’t give a shit about apparently where if you have file explorer open, minimize it, and go about your business, at any given random ass time it’ll just bring itself back up again. I’m done.
Dual boot or VM it before you make the switch. Or install on a different drive so you can swap your Win back in case you need something asap you don't yet know how to do on Linux.
I am using Debian Sid and I am playing a videogame that just came out called Alien: Dark Descent 🙂
Well. Aliens. As in plural, more than one. Many even.
Man.
Videogames, am I right?
I like playing games on Linux.
I dunno. I think playing games on Linux is cool.
What have you been playing lately on your Linux machine?
Underrail
I've heard that one's good, what do you think so far?
Redeem this game sirs the village needs you.
I would consider it if you tell me what game it is anon
Raji. Not recommended unless it's on sale, and at a steep discount at that. The team was one white dude and a bunch of indians, you can guess who did the actual programming.
I installed Gentoo in a VM the other day and it was an interesting learning experience
Not sure I'd install it on bare metal because compiling everything takes a lot of time and I'm not sure the extra ~3% performance is worth the time for me, not that I'm always installing some new program
I'm happy with RebornOS right now. It's like a better version of EndeavourOS.
Endeavour OS
not sure if this is a music visualizer or a CPU usage graph
cpu usage graph
If your pc is shitty enough, those two become the same thing, lol
what a horrible wallpaper
absolutely no taste
There is no objective best distro, just run a VM and distrohop for a while to see which one best fits you.
>Why?
Because it's homosexual posers doing it for the nerd cred. The other half is tech support posts by babbies who get filtered and can't bother to read tutorials, guides, and docs.
I'll agree that some good pointers would be good in some cases
>shit that explains configfiles for components and their syntax (xorg.font, fonts.conf, etc.)
>writing an udev rule sucks compared to popping open device manager
>some options may not be on the GUI depending on your DE, like mouse acceleration
arch-wiki is a decent quick-reference resource though, as it often lists problems and shit to try, compared to reading through the much wordier man and info pages.
>posting videogames
>on Ganker
Well here you go.
Qubes OS and yes I'm wearing a tinfoil hat right now
>So, which Linux distro to use?
>50% is people posting their ebin desktops
>the other 50% is people discussing which distro is better
OP asked which distro to use, not about what gaymes to play
It's still wild to me how far along proton (and wine and its components in general) has come in such a "short" time span
Wine has been around for nearly 3 decades and compatibility was hit or miss for most of its life
If you told me 10 years ago I'd soon be able to play the newest AAA games on Linux I wouldn't believe you
>new games work fine
>directx9 games from your childhood work fine but with missing shadows and memory issues
It's so close, but so far away
Why does he do it, bros? is it autism?
do those games have open issues on dxvk's issue tracker?
so is this just a basic platform game with an indian theme?
>so is this just a basic platform game with an indian theme?
Yes, which is why it's not worth full price unless you want to feel the atmosphere of mythic India. The game mechanics are not complete enough.
Unironically Manjaro aka Arch without the pain in the ass.
Is that monitoring tool in the bottom right your own script or a distributed program?
It's conky, I ripped the config file off a plebbitor.
>Ryzen 7 7700
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER
Brutal bottleneck
Bottlenecking is the other way around anon, I just upgraded my i5 9400F which WAS the bottleneck plus Nvidia's recent XX60 have been shit, since I don't play AAA console ports this GPU is good enough for another 2 years.
>manjaro
https://manjarno.snorlax.sh/
You like living life on the edge, don't you?
Anyway, if it works, it works. Don't fix what's not broken and all that.
Get a better GPU soon.
People keep talking about this when discussing Manjaro
Like what's literally the worst thing that could happen? If all I do with my pc is browse the web and play games on Steam what's the big deal with lack of security in an OS that barely has any security threats?
>Like what's literally the worst thing that could happen?
A non-working system after an update, and having the update accidentally erase your entire home directory and all your files, although the latter happened to Garuda OS and not Manjaro.
>having the update accidentally erase your entire home directory and all your files
aren't all rolling distros susceptible to that?
>aren't all rolling distros susceptible to that?
Nope. Unless you let a pajeet handle it.
manjaro doesn't use arch repos, so it's not really arch just like ubuntu isn't debian
I switched to linux a year ago and between distros I've tried (Manjaro, Ubuntu, Fedora, and Linux Mint) Manjaro is the one that gave me better gaming performance by far compared to the others, should I be really worried about the whole "didn't renew their security thing" thing?
As mentioned before, as long as it works, it works. Until it doesn't. Endeavour OS does better as an Arch installer compared to Manjaro.
it wouldn't worry about the actual security of your system, but it shows it's not properly managed, specially when they let it happen several times. I'm not the one who linked that, but my problem with manjaro is that despite the fact they're mostly borrowing shit from arch they seem tow ant to focus more on the monetization of the distro than proper community work, at least compared to other arch spin offs. For example, their deal with pine64 https://drewdevault.com/2022/08/18/PINE64-let-us-down.html
>monetization
They're going about it wrong, if they want to monetize, hardware comes first. Look at System76, they focus on selling pre-built and custom assembled PCs while letting Pop! OS be free.
>Fedora for RPM
>Manjaro for Pacman
>Ubuntu for APT
to use anything else is either a learning experience for people willing to experiment, or moronic.
>he got filtered by a fricking penguin
lmao brainlet.
I'm using Slackware, can't recommend it for games tbh
THERE HE IS, thread is complete
>using more than 20MHz of channel width
end yourself immediately furgay.
Ah, ok, you are just going to ignore that I have only 4g of RAM
That's my laptop btw
Anyone here running hyprland?
That's the fork that made all the wayland devs angry right?
Everything makes Wayland devs angry
They even seethed at GNOME for their bold move of implementing Wayland according to the official specifications
I used to use garuda