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well, genshin is the best game I've ever played
grim
this post made me shudder. hope shit gets better for you lil bro.
Star rail, I don't want to have to run around and collect bullshit
>"Star rail, I don't want to have to play the game."
Star Rail's relatively new compared to Genshin's life span and has already had far more power-creep than Genshin's ever had.
i'm not saying star rail is the better game overall, just star rail gives you a ton of free rolls and free characters to the point you can have an alright time not putting money in.
genshin is outright the better game and if any of the QoL features get ported over to genshin or even better they stop being so stingy with freebies it wouldn't even be a comparison, genshin can still be really solid f2p but takes a lot more to get the ball rolling but you do hit the power ceiling far sooner than in star rail as once you can reliably 36* abyss you effectively won the game as it wont get any harder than that and your own teams will outstrip any difficulty increases they have done to it.
>just star rail gives you a ton of free rolls and free characters to the point you can have an alright time not putting money in.
That's merely an illusion.
Star rail is a turn based game and powercreep is synonymous with powercreep. Turn based games NEED powercreep because the only way they can move forward is with bigger, badder bosses and making the new characters fancier than the older ones.
Combine this with the fact HI3 is infamous for it's hideous powercreep and you can see the reason you feel like you're being handed more stuff is because there's more need for it with modes like Memory of Chaos, Pure Fiction and whatever garbage they add to squeeze money out of the playerbase.
The overall playerbase, engagement and popularity of star rail is also lower everywhere you go so the need to inject freebies and welfares is a must to keep their existing players happy and satisfied.
Genshin meanwhile is mihoyo's golden goose. It's an adventure/exploration game that has been casual since day1 so they don't have or need to powercreep since the meat of the game is the exploration and story so your characers will last a lot longer in your party with less motivation to roll for "meta" or stay "meta". They also don't need to be giving out shit because, for better or worse, the game is massively fricking huge and mihoyo wanted to milk it hard without having to open the free shit faucets.
Eventually, Genshin will start declining and they'll have to open the free shit faucets or take measures to keep players in and then everyone will praise them like they suddenly grew a heart and started caring but they're just following the same script all these gachashit and GAAS things follow.
HI3’s power creep is really overstated. Most characters see use for 2ish years before they are powercrept.
is honkai impact now for oldgays
Impact came out almost 8 years ago
It’s time to let go
I have really nice memories from playing genshin (After the first year because most of my 1st year experiences sucked).
I barely have any fun HI3 memories. Most of them were dealing with hoyo's janky shit and their godawful loader that would often get stuck. The game's story went to the absolute shitter, the characters and lore got shat on with the community transforming into this seething revenant that is eternally pissed at the existence of ZZZ/HSR/Genshin and is desperate to insert themselves anywhere or relate everything to their game to stay relevant.
It sucks so much seeing a game I spent so many years of my life playing end up like this and I can say I really regret getting into Honkai as a whole. I'd probably be enjoying HSR more if HI3 didn't sour me on Honkai as a whole.
Honestly, I just can't trust mihoyo with story content. They have some of the worst writing in mobile games, they are the equivalent of generic isekai anime that come out every season, but with pretty graphics.
I'm just frustrated with how awful they have handled the writing in all their games so far.
isn't that the standard for mobile games
it's either generic trash or korean suffering porn which has already become generic at this point
Genshin is the better game
Star Rail is the better game f2p
>garbage vs trash
who cares
Thank you for your input
>They gave the fat assed witch girl pants
Well, obviously not that one anymore.
OMG?!?!? My video game character is wearing clothes? Literally unplayable I need virtual anime boobs
I mean, even I know the design of that girl even though I dont play it. I just remember the image showing how they purposely made her ass fatter than other models, so obviously her wearing that thong high swimsuit was integral to her original purpose and design.
Hell if I search for her now just using those vague terms the first thing you see is like 2000 results of just her ass.
Touch grass.
>plays coom game
>spends money on coom game characters
>chinks remove the coom
Sorry troony but gacha is for one thing and you are a cuck
you can literally just switch her outfit back to the original
they use the censored versions in cutscenes for the 4 they covered up
Rosaria is still the most tragic genshin character somehow and they made fricking nahida and furina
they're both bad (on account of having non-azur lane or GFL rates) but genshin is inherently better on the account of having actual gameplay. And the potential for puritycore doujins featuring the protagonists is nice.
>actual gameplay
Walking around BotW empty lite overworld isn’t gameplay
right, neither is getting into a fight, getting up to take a piss, cook dinner, walk your dog, call your parents, googling the moves you should make to kill the guy in the fight, doing so, and winning.
Tower of fantasy
>Star Rail has so many QoL improvements!
>Such as?
>...the game plays itself.
Why don't people understand that Genshin was a frickheug success because it managed to NOT be like every nongame which uses that horrid monetization model?
SR and it's not even close.
>Plays itself
Most autobattlers suck and you lose if you leave it on.
>hates turn based
zoomer detected
>horrid monetization model
Genshin uses the same model and it's even more money hungry.
Imagine being as illiterate as you, holy shit.
Listen Black person, the only reason that genshin was huge success is that it came out at the right time (during pandemic when everyone and their mother was at home) and it originally copied botw's aesthetics, which everyone was fellating at the time despite it coming out two years before.
>muh gameplay
it's a generic open world game, what's the most impressive thing about it is how much money it gains + how much mihoyo spends it on the soundtrack hiring orchesteas and the like
This needs to be at 2x speed because nobody sane battles at normal speed
I do when it's a new area/enemies/story
I do because the voicelines are better.
I don't know how mhy thought it was ok but 1x speed feels more like .5x or .25x speed meanwhile 2x feels like the actual speed when you look at animations
they must've knew every single player would've gone to 2x so they made animations with that in mind cause holy f uck when you're on 1x speed and do fast slashes like seele as a good example it's so apparent how bad and not right it looks when she's supposed to be doing fast as frick slashes while moving at lightspeed yet the hits look like she's moving through molasses
I went to /hsrg/ after skipping that place for ages.
It has a literal scat/shock images spammer now along with gay ERPers and other morons desperately baiting for replies.
Yeah, I think I'll stick with genshin. At least that game has actual gameplay and content that can be discussed without devolving into THIS.
/gig/ has scat and yaoi spammers so i don't think /vg/ should be your deciding factor
All of those are literal /gig/gays, we only got the scat and ERPers after the 1.6 livestream and game awards.
blaming gig for everything and constantly having the threads be an eternal battleground of hig vs gig is why the honkai threads are always bad
/hsrg/ gets the worst of both worlds, they get the seething troons of /hig/ AND the other seething troons of /gig/
they also doxxed some chick through a screenshot with an exposed uid and made her DFE after finding her home address
they also killed stray cats because wanderer got a rerun
those were the ricecels on Tieba/NGA not Ganker
genshin is an open world action adventure
star rail is a turn based rpg
they are completely different
genshin drones really try to say autobattle is bad for a game that has dailies. Also the feature of borrowing other people's characters is bad and that character upgrade material domains being only available on specific days of the week is a good thing. Completely delusional
>autobattle is bad
Yes. You either let me play the game OR skip the entire thing, no in-between.
>the feature of borrowing other people's characters is bad
That feature is for helping new players by borrowing strong characters and Genshin as that through coop.
>that character upgrade material domains being only available on specific days of the week is a good thing
That is indeed a good thing. Once you're at the end of the game and you're just farming for upcoming characters, it's not that big of an issue in Genshin, but it would still be nice to have them available at all time.
>Genshinkeks still seething HSR is giving its players a new 5* unit for Christmas
>Still no free qiqi even for the genshin anni
Only if you haven't done archon quests or collected the location based collectables. Otherwise SOL.
>Only if you haven't done archon quests or collected the location based collectables. Otherwise SOL.
If you 100%'d the entirety of every region so far then you already have like 500+ hrs of game so yeah you're stuck with dailies because you literally exhausted 4 years of content.
If you don't want to deal with dailies then consider slowing down and leaving some quests or chests for when you really don't want to do dailies.
Event reward claims count towards this too, 2 event claims usually fills the gauge to like 90% and a single chest or simple "Kill shit" daily pushes it to 100%.
It's the new comission system so it'll be like this after you unlock comissions at like AR10.
Nice, I guess I'll give it a try again sometimes.
Then again I was already skipping dailies for the entirety of 2022
Yes, if a gatcha is going to have so little gameplay that it has auto battle it better be AT LEAST as free to play as Azur Lane.
And a Mihoyo game is certainly not that.
they are simply mentally ill people
i havent played genshit or other hoyo games and only got into star rail due to it being turn based
every single star rail general on vg is filled with deranged, mentally ill genshitskins constantly shitposting and doomposting the game because they cant handle being the #2
genshitskins have earned their reputation for being one of the most disliked communities, and honestly they deserve to be hated
i have simply never seen a fanbase as pathetic as genshitBlack folk
>mfw giving a frick about the community in a singleplayer game
I don't know or care what power creep is, I have a life
Neither, they are both live service garbage with horrible storytelling.
Nothing wrong with live service as long as it’s done right and provides constant content. You morons just like to complain.
I got all the characters I wanted in genshin for free (the game and story does suck though ungodly boring slog)
genshin impact has the best lore in all of gaming
It doesn't even have the best lore in mobile games. Genshin writing feels like it's trying to impress morons with how verbose it is, but overall it's just bad.
But hey, there's people who like the story in nu Star Wars movies, so eh.
Genshiggers can't help but seethe in every hsr thread.
Tribalism between these two is moronic.
Both clearly ran on similar design philosophy anyway.
Filler patches in hsr is significantly worse though.
they are both garbage
If you play either you’re a massive homosexual. Even discussing them or attempting to is such an embarrassment, even for Ganker
Thank you for your input
Genshin can potentially be better if they reduce grinding.
Star Rail is better for it's quality of life features. Models are also undeniably better.
I'd actually play Genshin more if they removed dailies, the dailies kill my enthusiasm for playing the game.
They improved the dailies system recently with the "adventure points" system where playing the game counts towards your dailies and added some QOL like domains now start you at the center rather than making you walk to the key every time.
They'll never add skips to the game though, if you want a 5 min dailies thing then there's HSR where they want it to be your casual sidegame where you log in for a couple clicks a day then log out for the day.
Yeah, I just accept that Genshin will never be my "main game" as long as it has those manual dailies, and I'll play it a lot less than HSR.
But they fixed the dailies, new dailies are "play the game".
Event stages count as dailies now, 1 quest counts as all 4 of your dailies, opening chests counts towards dailies and there's still the regular dailies in case you want to do the quick "Kill 2 mooks" fast comissions'. If simple tasks like these are too much then the game maybe was never for you.
Is this a thing in all region or only after you unlock fontaine?
Everything
1 chest = 0.5 adventure points
1 PART of character quest, archon quest or major quest = 4 character points
1 short quest = 1~2 adventure points
1 daily quest = 1 adventure point
1 request = 1.25 adventure points
Events vary but 1 event stage/claim usually gives you 1~2 adventure points.
4 adventure points is your full dailies and you can go to katherine to claim your primos.
Here's a screenshot for those out of the loop. This is 3 requests, the weekly reputation requests you get. I haven't done a single "daily" yet.
I can now either go open a random chest or do a quick daily and i'm done with daily shit for the day.
even with this feature, the game is a snooze. At the end of the day youre still holding W to look for shit. Why cant you do daily quests by running dungeons like in starrail?
Because Genshin is a videogame and not an autobattler? They want you to engage with the game, explore things and do content. If you don't want to then the game is not for you and hoyo offers a quick autobattler where you can do all the content for the patch in a few clicks then brag about how it respects your time on Ganker.
>genshin drone thinks autobattle is mandatory
comedy gold
>Log into HSR
>Click to enter a domain and put it on auto
>Mute game and tab back out to Ganker
>Click to repeat stage 3 times after auto finishes
>Claim dailies and close game
I'm so glad Star Rail knows gachas are a waste of time and don't make me engage with the game. Now I can freely make my monthly payments to Hoyoverse for characters I can't use anywhere due to a severe lack of content or anything to do at all.
Honkchads where we at?? Genshitters WISH they were us but they never will be.
not defending genshin but there's been way too many days for HSR where you get dumb as frick commissions that rewards 200 points like
>weakness break 3 enemies in 1 battle
>waste stamina on echos of war
>hit weakness break in overworld on 3 different enemies (bit easier but means 3 auto battles real quick
>do a Sim universe run (somewhat long cause even if you do world 1 level 30 enemies with your level 80 built character you gotta go through loading menus and blessing screens)
>other comms so annoying you might need to do the actual daily mission to hit 500 for that day
thankfully star rail is dumbing down commissions EVEN MORE to the point just logging in gives 100 immediately and spending stamina gives another 100 or 200, I'm sure there's more to make it piss easy but the fact they're making it even easier to do comms tells everyone they definitely want this game to be a side one.
A 5 or 20 min for stamina/comms (depending on which comms you get) done is being trimmed down to just 5 mins only at this point unless your units aren't built enough to auto battle the 6 waves of enemies fast enough for whatever mats or currency you need to farm.
Again it's good but then it turns into "what am I even playing this game for" at this point, waiting 5 weeks for the next content if you finished the current content when everything that's usually locked behind the event cause timegated stuff
>thankfully star rail is dumbing down the game even more
gaming is dead
the new generation of """gamers""" dont have the attention span to sit down and focus for longer than 60 seconds
I miss when Ganker shat on companies for casualizing their games or pandering to shitters
Now removing any indication of a game and leaving only the buttons to pay for microtransactions is seen as the best game ever
Dailies are evil as it is, the less time they take the better. Although people shouldn't force themselves to do daily chores in a video game anyway
daily quests are fricking trash and deserve to be skipped
The majority of mihomosexual players only play these games during story patches and rarely events. They are trying to retain players in both games by cutting down on bullshit to keep them logging every day instead of every other month.
>waiting 5 weeks for the next content if you finished the current content when everything that's usually locked behind the event cause timegated stuff
That's just typical gacha content cycles for you. If you know one that actually releases fast content, please tell me. I could use another time killer.
>waiting 5 weeks for the next content
First gacha? Next you'll tell me you roll on every banner.
Just don't do dailies then. I'm trying to wrap my head around this statement and it seems so contradictory
then you get no gems to pull for the units you want unless you're a dolphin or whale then yeah skip commissions cause you're not gonna die missing 60/420 primos a day/week when you're spending money to get tens of thousands of gems anyways
just go explore and enjoy the game while using your units you can get more easier cause of wallet
You get like ten rolls from doing commissions for a month. You get that from doing abyss and events twice a month. And the gems you get from playing the new regions and quests, i.e. the actual game. You'll miss 16 pulls if you don't do commissions for an entire six week patch. Or well you would, if the new system didn't exist
What's funny is that both games share the same community and still hate each other. Gachagays are something else.
Genshin fans think they’re gonna be the new Honkai Impact where they become irrelevant and Star Rail fans think they’re going to be the new Genshin
Meanwhile ZZZ about to sweep both of them next year
Most people playing both Genshin and Star Rail will just pick up ZZZ too. The real winner here is always Mihoyo since all their games make millions and millions. Meanwhile the "fans" fight each other.
ZZZ looks solid but not solid enough to overtake anything except HI.
Let's be real here, HSR has so many freebies and other QOL stuff because it's a turn based game going into a pool with a billion other turn based gachas while genshin is one of the few of its kind and dosent need to give out anything to incentivize people
I'm enjoying Star Rail far more, but I prefer it being "Go in for a few hours with a new patch, do all the new story content, and then just grind and build for the next few weeks"
Genshin just has me so fricking burnt out on how everything feels like it's buried under mountains of text and the they don't even use playable characters like Star Rail does inside of their events, and instead it is just random fricko 6429.
Neither because they both have m*les.
>Genshin Impact
>Ubishit run around an open world map and collect a bunch of different shit including hundreds upon hundreds of chests with trash in them
>Star Rail
>4 homies in row combat, you can set it to autobattle once you've got your team set up to kick ass and not die, sipping your drink of choice while waifus slaughter everything
Star Rail is good for you. Genshin Impact is almost completely game time padding. Star Rail is everything good about Genshin without the fricking padding
>autobattle
>no items in battle
Might as well play an idle game
Or a normal Jrpg
If your team can't steamroll everything without items then you're not doing it right
enabling autobattle for star rail dailes while shitposting genshin on another screen is great
This. I'm balls deep in the Simulated Universe right now while posting in this thread
They are different genre. It comes down to which gacha gameplay style you prefer. Though if you want to compare star rail has the better devs for sure.
I dont know what to say other than you can really FEEL Star Rail's devs passion for featureless corridors
Star Rail beats Genshin in the things I care more about like character quests and events.
>do Natasha quest
>is actually about Natasha
The Not-Pokemon event made me realize I actually did like Belobog's cast which is more than I can say about how I feel about Genshin's cast.
>turn based rpg
>action rpg
Not a fair comparison
Genshin at least has a game to actively do for a bit.
Star Rail becomes boring really fast no matter what
One has a hot bunny, but the other one got those hot snailthings so i don't know
Genshin will give away a free female Xia- I mean Cloud Retainer in 4.4. Trust the plan.
Honkai Impact mogs both. Better designs. Better story. Better gameplay and most important of all, it has a skip button. If Genshin had a skip button and more stuff to actually do with your characters other than Abyss then it would be up there with Honkers.
I'd rather auto-battle with the occasional need for manual turn-based combat instead of spamming one button nonstop in real-time combat. Plus, no paimon constantly next to you in HSR.
>talk to man witb Egyptian name
>talk to man with Indian name
>talk to man with Egyptian name again
HSRKEKS SEETHING THAT WE GET SUCH QUALITY GAMEPLAY WHILE THEY SKIP IT
>talk to man
already more gameplay and story than star rail there
If Honkai respects your time so much, why isnt there a sweep button like in Blue Archive?
The game knows you have already beat the fight once, why do you even need to watch the battle play out over and over again?
Its a straight waste of my damn time.
I'd love to see HSR add sweep feature and keep their current content schedule. Shit's going to have less content than a Mica game and I will laugh and laugh and laugh.
More engagement
Its not engaging watching the computer play the game for you
Oh you misunderstood
More engagement for the devs to collect the money from forcing you to watch pointless battles and thus play the game more
Because auto exists, clear times aren't long and not many repeats. The only exception is SU. There should be a sweep option there
Gives moronic players a sense of "engagement".
Literally different genres entirely but Honkai has way more polish and care put into it overall.
Genshin from a technical perspective is a jank patched together mess.
That being said if you just flat out don’t like turn based combat that doesn’t really matter much does it.
The biggest winner right here.
I want Star Rail's world with Genshin's gameplay. I don't like turn based games or thinking in a turn based way.
>I don't like thinking
>me wanna unga bunga
Yeah, we know
Exactly. Turn based games aren't satisfying to me unless it's cyber sleuth or Pokemon. I'm a total brainlet.
Me, I can't even be bothered opening up Star Rail to do stuff
Star Rail. The majority of Genshin's content is the equivalent of korok seeds.
>turn based trash
>Censored Impact
>both chinkshit
>both gachashit
Good question actually.
its funny how gacha game discussion is virtually impossible or rather never constructive on Ganker yet you gays keep making threads, knowing this, for the sole purpose of bait
You ok?
am i wrong? this board is heavily biased against gachas and will shit on it even if it was the best game ever made
Gacha games can't be the best game ever by default, simply because the gacha mechanic of obtaining characters always drags it down to the floor. We get that the developers want to make money. But its pure unadulterated greed. The majority of the content is the characters themselves, and the game is structured to make you want to spend money to obtain them. They put roadblocks in the way in the form of 50/50s to force you NOT to get them so you'll spend even more money. Its straight up predatory in the worse way
Most people make a game and sell it for 60 bucks which everyone is fine with. Then there are gacha fricks who expect you to keep shelling out money every month for as long as the game lasts. It ain't right, and everyone knows it. Bias isn't the right word. Revulsion is better
you can definitely judge a game by its intrinsic design and core mechanics whilst leaving the gacha part out if you arent a complete moron.
i also disagree with your viewpoint entirely, while gacha games can heavily drag a game down i would hardly say that genshin or honkai star rail fall within this exaggerated example. for instance in hsr the character you get is just a combat unit which has no importance or relation to the actual story of the game with 2 skills and one basic attack (that can be replaced by other easier to earn characters as well but thats a whole nother subject). they are entirely unneeded if you are just after the content of the game. of course a gacha is predatory and structured so that they can make money off of it but its entirely in your hand to feed into their israeli tricks and if you do you are just a sheep anyways.
you dont NEED the newest characters, you dont NEED the best characters, you dont NEED the hottest waifu (you get the point) saying you do is just disingenuous and you are not being honest with yourself. also these games are free and get updated for free on an at least monthly basis. nowadays most people dont make games for 60 bucks and sell it, no. forgot the microtransactions and dlcs and unfinished products and other current year shit?
again, all lies. like i said theres no point in arguing with heavily biased people.
>you don't NEED to play the game
FTFY
of course? that applies to any game, i dont see the big gotcha (heh) you thought you had. you also dont NEED to be so butthurt all the time
Average IQ of a gachatroony
reminder that it took you 23 minutes and 21 seconds just for you to reply to me with a butthurt non-argument which actually just proves my point that you losers are absolutely inable to have any constructive discussion whatsoever. i also officially accept your concession.
You are defending chink paypig games using chudjaks. You are incapable of "constructive discussion" because you pretend any point doesn't exist because it's "optional". A mindless drone unable to replicate coherent human speech patterns. Utterly mindbroken.
>You are defending chink paypig games using chudjaks.
i'm not. i'm just pointing out that any discussion with you spastics is absolutely and utterly worthless because of heavy personal bias and disingenuous arguments. also that wasnt a chudjak but a candidly drawn chadjak. know the difference plebian.
>You are incapable of "constructive discussion" because you pretend any point doesn't exist because it's "optional".
I'm sorry for your mental illness but that wasn't my point in the least and not what i was trying to make out with a 1000+ letter post that i thought would convene a bit more even if you are borderline moronic due to your subhuman intelligence.
>A mindless drone unable to replicate coherent human speech patterns. Utterly mindbroken.
refer to my prior post. also, quite ironic.
Ping's Pay and Pig got you this good? I'll take five psyops please
i dont give a shit about chinks. spare me the meds deficiency induced drivel and buzzwords but the fact that a "chink paypig game" can and did get so much traction (and still gets your ilk mad and rent free on the regular) shows just how hopeless modern gaming is. even a wannabe witty sarcastic smugjak like you knows this deep inside.
i don't play mihoyo games but it's sad to see how other countries make higher quality 3d anime games than japan. japan please get your shit together and make some 3d anime games with actually high quality animations/art and entertaining characters. it's shocking that there is not a single one coming out from the country that fricking invented anime and manga as we know it
They just teased a new Mana game that looks great what the frick are you smoking?
it's funny you say that because my post is indirectly addressing the disappointment i got from watching that trailer
visions of mana looks low budget
but to be fair, it's hard to match the budget of a gacha company generating billions in revenue from one game alone
But Genshin started before Mihoyo was making billions.
that looks even more low budget
They have the atelier gacha game.
Jap recent best jrpg gacha release is heaven burns red. 3d animation isn't that good but everything else is pretty great. Though it probably won't release globally.
the 3d animation is the entire point. i enjoy many 2d anime jrpgs as well, i was just lamenting the fact that jp can't keep up with other countries when it comes to 3d anime games
Name another game on genshin's scale and production value. It's only possible because of government money, because they intend to use it as a cultural export. No other devs have such boon.
Most chink devs are on the same tier as jp anime game studios.
Fortnite, and it's way more fun.
Based moron, we're talking about jarpigs
That guy was talking about production value of "anime games."
Looking at shit like pgr, snowbreak, nikke etc I don't see how jp is losing. In marketing and management maybe.
>That guy was talking about production value of "anime games."
No he wasn't you moron. Learn to read shill.
I'm using vpn and it's showing (you) for the wrong post
>Name another game on genshin's scale and production value.
Somebody asked the question and I delivered.
>Name another game on genshin's scale and production value. It's only possible because of government money
It's possible because they recycle a lot of content. Big fields and forests aren't that hard to make. But then again, they can't really go crazy because its a mobile game at heart.
i'm not interested in the rabble. the peak should belong in japan and it's unfortunate that it isn't
Jap devs do not care about the global market, only the domestic. And what they are putting out sells there.
idk what you mean. are you saying that genshin doesn't sell there? because it does. are you saying that there are other gacha games that beat genshin in japan? we have no data to say one way or another because gacha companies don't report individual game revenue and the only numbers we have are made-up guesses by analytics companies like sensortower
One's turn-based other is action. Pick your poison.
Both are bad and ZZZ will mog them.
Star rail has better writing, events, minigames.
Genshin has better combat and exploration, however the writing is so bad it takes it down a notch
genshin's pokemon event was ass
star rail's pokemon event was kino
I dunno why we're comparing 2 shit games, but Genshin is slightly better unfortunately.
>Grind mechanics are super similar
>Star Rail however, is just 4 dudes in a row, so you "grind" by turning on auto, tabbing out, and tabbing back in 2 minutes later when it's done and collect your rewards
>The Artifact/whatever grind in Star Rail is significantly worse for 2 reasons:
>The average quality of an item is somehow worse than Genshin thanks to extra (shit for most characters) stats
>Part of your gear is locked behind Simulated Universe, which requires a lot more effort to get anything out of since you have to keep holding W for 5+ minutes over a dozen screens for (4) payouts
>No Multiplayer
>Content is consumed significantly faster because they chose to not have horrible ass-dragging writing, to not have an awful sidekick who follows you everywhere and reduces your value as a character in the story, and corridors are way easier to "explore" than an open environment
Now for what Star Rail does better:
>Weapon gacha that isn't ass cancer (gacha in general is still very bad, but Genshin's Weapon banner system is particularly rancid)
>Competent writing that builds off their established world in a multitude of ways (even if the translation relies on memes a few too many times) while not dragging ass in every single fricking conversation with characters fighting to see who is the biggest dumbass or smartass or bleeding heart
>Retain some events and meld them into the game instead of constantly throwing all the shit you make out and saying "too bad" to newer players who miss out if it turns out some old reward is "best in slot" for some new character or if some side content you made is actually fricking enjoyable (although they still throw out around 30% of unique content made each patch)
They're both decent games when you realize you don't need to engage with gacha bullshit to actually enjoy and play the game. Very few people are genuine completionists to such a level they'll fork money in these games, and you don't need to.
>Both sides are just arguing which game is less annoying, not which one is more fun
You'd think people would stop playing these joyless chore list games eventually but they're still making tens of millions every month.
star rail is fun actually
the aversion genshitskin zoomers have to turn based gameplay is a blessing in disguise
it keeps those subhumans out of the community
And yet you autistic fricks can't stay the hell out of genshin threads. How very interesting.
>shit vs piss
Star Rail feels like more of a constructed game than Genshin, which is a mash of ideas from various popular open world games. The Star Rails team feels like they had an actual idea of what they wanted the game to be from the beginning. It also doesn't make f2pers feel like shit as much as Genshin does or tries to.
I cant believe someone wanted to make a game filled with endless dull corridors, but I guess you are right, they had that idea they wanted and ran with it.
i dont like open world slop so star rail i guess
genshin, and it's not even close for me. but I play both.
star rail is an auto battler, it's not engaging at all. I just afk combat, even in MoC & swarm.
Theres actual endgame content and team composition in Star Rail so I like it better
Genshin is a good collectathon, lots of little odds and ends to find. I like that in a game. Also, it's just way more of an actual polished product, it feels like you could buy it in the game aisle and it'd be respectable. No other gacha game in the world has that, not one.
Star Rail doesn't have any of that, but... it also plays smoother and is more replayable thanks to the roguelike modes.
Also, they both want phone levels of commitment from you but Genshin is shit on a phone, so that kinda sucks.
Idk tbpfh
Star Rail is more compelling to me at the moment, but I played Genshin for years and am currently taking an indetermined break from it.
Genshin as of 4.2
>Still rough around the edges, especially with the first two countries
>Luck with artifacts is bad, but not enough to be completely useless
>Story is all over the place, with some character quests having little to no significance
>Open world, which is easy to break out of bounds with the right characters and make the game's exploration fun
>Spiral Abyss is post-game and not required for anything significant (aside from Primogems)
>Limited time events are actually limited and can't be revisited (although if a character is introduced in said event and shows up later in the story, Hoyo has that taken into account for new commers)
>Rolling for weapons is beyond asinine
>Getting Inazuma characters leveled up is story gated for newcomers
>Dailies are still required, but to a significantly lesser degree
Star Rail as of 1.5
>Excellent story that shits itself once getting on the Ching Chong ship.
>Relive older events
>Separates lightcones for banner reruns
>Shittier artifact luck, even if you can choose the main stat
>Simulated Universe is assumed to be post-game, only for later Equilibrium levels to be required for two inner slots
>Stamina cap off has it's own larger reserve, though can be quickly depleted if you're grinding
>Leveling up Characters, light cones and artifacts are a complete grindfest even with the battle pass
>No where does it state that enemies in regular world are also farmable, even if it's crumbs
>Can get level up items for characters synthesized without having to progress the story
>Turnbased gacha, which is different from a regular turnbased game
>Auto-battle, which isn't even good because the AI keeps fricking up your usual set up, thus wastes more time
tl;dr I pick Genshin, mainly because Star Rail burnt me out on 1.3 and I skipped a version.
why do the playbases for these two games hate the shit out of each other? Theyre both on the same side
The rest of the gacha market is so shit that their sister game is their only competitor.
both are shit