I hear it has an actual story, while the original just had two or three scripted encounters with the rival and minor stuff like having to find and beat the fighting gym players before you can battle their boss.
The forced the shutdown of the old client for a more israeli mobile client. The new client is so fricking bad that it's almost guaranteed to EOS within a year.
TCG company probably felt like it replaced the necessity for pokemon fans to actually buy cards, and even went so far as to prevent them localizing the sequel.
TCG companies in general have discovered they just need to make one game they maintain for years as the microtransactions combined with physical sales which include a code that can be put in the website to unlock the same cards will make it a cashcow, rather than doing the actual fun thing of making a new entry with a solid single player mode like you used to get.
Businesses don't care about legacy, they care about money in the moment. The only time they actually want you still playing a 20 year old game is if they've rereleased it with "HD graphics", because that's the only way they'll still make money from it.
Who the frick on Ganker hates the GBC Pokemon TCG games? It was great if you were interested in the card game, but didn't want to spend hundreds of dollars trying to buy the actual cards or actual packs.
I never tried out the sequel.
Back then? No clue. I guess the video games just didn't do too well. Also, there was a time when the Pokemon TCG was getting transferred from Wizards of the Coast over to Nintendo fully, so there were probably some licensing issues at that point.
Now? Look at Magic the Gathering Arena, for a reason why Nintendo doesn't want to put out a $40 game with every TCG card in it.
Is there any good decks other than scyther + punchguy
For the first game?
I liked Bulbasaur + Venonat and Power Plus, since the boosted attack increased the amount of healing you got. Throw in some Koffing for poison/confusion and it's a great starter deck. Not so great later on.
Scyther + Machop + Hitmonchan is a pretty good early deck as well. Throw in Wigglytuff and some pokedolls and you have an absurdly powerful later game deck that slaps stuff around for 60 damage on turn 2 or 3.
Squirtle/Blastoise with Bill, Professor Oak, Pokemon Breeder, Pokemon Trader, and some cards that grab trainer cards from the discard pile (Item Finder) gives you one of the most broken decks from the era. Play Squirtle, Trader to get Blastoise, Breeder to evolve into Blastoise, then Bill/Oak to keep getting water energy to stack them all on Blastoise in one turn. Throw in Lapras (extra damage for more energy) and something good like Articuno, and it's easy to destroy everything in a turn or two. Don't be afraid to cycle part of your deck away with Professor Oak since you can get the cards back.
Since you can manipulate the coin flips into always landing heads, Geodude and Exeggutor can literally one-shot anything.
You can put together other broken stuff from the early TCG as well.
I loved it though, the second game is bullshit as you need rng to progress, that said I like how it forces you to make multiple decks instead of just blastoise/gyarados sweeping.
>fantranslations exist for Pokemon Card 2 >nothing officially from nintendo even now >nintendo can barely even fricking bother to make their own for Fire Emblem 1 >still make it time-exclusive as a frick you anyways
Why
>fantranslations exist for Pokemon Card 2 >nothing officially from nintendo even now
Nintendo wouldn't be the one doing it anyway. That's on TPC with Game Freak's (primary IP owner and final say with staff on every project) and Creatures' (since they're the ones who handle the card game explicitly) a-okay.
If a game sell poorly in the west we won't see a sequel. that's how they were back in the day. I at least have hope we will at least see TCG2 on the switch now since the first one was ported
It's legitimately good but gen 1 TCG is very limited in mechanics and cards.
I know there's an online pokemon TCG but it's multiplayer which gets kinda boring. I want to play a TCG with cool progression, getting better cards and stuff, trying different creative decks and all. Not the boring PvP TCG that's all about following a meta.
We don't, it's great, but Gen 1 decks are kinda boring. There's no reason not to just build Hitmonchan/Electabuzz/Scyther haymaker and breeze through the game.
No clue, but it's definitely a long running theme of characters in some sort of full body suits just showing their faces. Generally with sunglasses to cover the eyes.
It helps if you have a specific goal, like a master set. But if you're just buying to just to buy, once in a while doesn't hurt. Know your limits since boosters are $5 a pack now.
Unless you're just going to buy bulks, then have at it. Most are 10 cents.
Same way gacha games go. You're playing the odds you're going to get something good. It's technically faster to buy the singles you need, but some of those cards go for several times the price of hopefully pulling it at random.
Honestly, I quit the TCG after Rocket. TCGs are too much of a money sink for too much of a crap shoot
former MTG player here
booster packs are ALWAYS throwing money away in practically any game
monetarily speaking. its ALWAYS better to buy single cards outright, do not fall for the lottery meme. booster packs are only really relevant in games like MTG where, aside from merely having cards, each set is designed to be played in a format where you draft cards from booster packs and buying them is part of the entry into these sealed events.
never buy "mystery" shit or repacks, its always just jank shit that wont sell by itself
have a goal in mind, dont overspend
learn what are quality products to actually protect and display your card collection, too many dumb youtubers during the pandemic TCG bubble tricked people into thinking that cards were magically worth money merely by being opened, without taking to account that they were basically destroying the cards ""value"" by throwing them around and just generally storing them improperly
>boosters are $5 a pack now.
how do people justify this? how many packs does it usually take to get something "decent?"
i should also add, aside from buying cards outright, often times good values are those box sets that have a pre-determined assortment of cards in them
not sure how it works in pokemon but MTG would have decks that you could play with right out of the box and some of these were break-even to profitable buying them. i would do some research beforehand if you see these boxes in the stores, snap a picture, check the contents online. buy some card sleeves and have a safe dry place for them. when i was playing the best sleeves were brands like Dragon Shield although im sure that other brands like the often mediocre ultra pro have stepped up to offer good products
this guy is dorky but he was pretty good about testing different products and letting you know what has value and advocating for the player though he is MTG focused, not pokemon
https://www.youtube.com/@TolarianCommunityCollege
You're better off buying singles for Pokemon
Booster packs are a fricking scam, you'll need 4-5 packs to get something "decent" aka a card with 3 dollars in value
I tried to play the sequel since I loved the original game as a kid, but goddamn is clunky as frick. They need to do a remake or new game that doesn't require 50 menu interactions for each turn.
the biggest problem with the sequel is it just reused all the music from the first game. like yeah it's really good, but I was hoping for some new stuff
I managed to outstall basically every CPU opponent with a Slowbro deck. >Slowbro >stack a bunch of energy onto the Slowbro >use Bill/Oak to keep hand well stocked >CPU uses their Bill/Oak to keep their hand filled up as well >use its ability to move damage counter to Slowbro >Mr. Fuji on Slowbro >all those cards get put back into the deck >CPU suddenly scrambling to avoid decking themselves
This, of course, assumes that I haven't already just killed them outright by then.
i only collected and traded pokemon cards as a kid. my friend getting this and playing it actually got him into the actual card game that none of our peers ever played. for some reason, it was less accessible and fun than yugioh which came shortly later. anywho, my buddy went on to compete and became a top player globally. now he's a married normie who's only really touched PoGO in recent years.
That's because the RNG was locked. Didn't like your flips or the flips hurt you in a way that mattered? Just reset and not do the flips and wait for better RNG.
I actually learned to play the card game because of this. Very few folks at the time cared about playing the game than they did collecting the cards. That still feels true to this day, considering the soifaces all over YouTube
>they never released a new DS / 3DS game centered around TCG
They fricked up big time by not even considering it, for frick sake Konami did it with Yugioh WC games for years before deciding to frick off.
People criticizing Pokemon's business practices never fails to crack me up
They take a Pikachu shaped fart and it sells 10 million copies by the time it hits your nose. They don't need your armchair advice.
And if your angle is "But the games could be better!", I've got news for you: There are way better games already out there waiting for you.
While it's easy to point out what could be done better with newer pokemon games, they just flat out gave up on making TCG vidya when it's pretty obvious they could of churned out low effort sequels over the years for easy $$$.
While it's easy to point out what could be done better with newer pokemon games, they just flat out gave up on making TCG vidya when it's pretty obvious they could of churned out low effort sequels over the years for easy $$$.
It probably turboflopped. They didn't even bring the sequel over to the west. Even Pokémon Pinball's sequel got localized.
Who hates this? It's legitimately one of the best Pokemon games to exist. The sequel is even better but you need a fan translation patch for it since it never made its way outside Japan.
I need recommendations for similar games. I love the idea of an RPG where you start with a shit deck of cards and slowly earn more as you beat opponents until you can make a good deck but all the examples I can think of are games like Slay the Spire which are designed around repeated runs. I want to enjoy my completed decks, not beat the final boss and have to start again.
>Play one (uno) game of the Pokemon card game >Have a fire deck >Other guy (assume he was a guy why else would he had a guy avatar) has a Steel deck >All my attacks doing 500+ damage >He's fricking dead
This is sort of unbalanced and not that fair. For him, I won.
Honestly, Pokemon TCG was never really that good.
People played it because it was Pokemon, not because it had compelling gameplay.
It's also a reason to get the video games instead of playing the actual TCG. The game mechanics are shit, but at least you can break them in fun ways when you get access to all the cards.
it's good but the sequel is just the same game but more.
I hear it has an actual story, while the original just had two or three scripted encounters with the rival and minor stuff like having to find and beat the fighting gym players before you can battle their boss.
yeah it's not much of a plot, but it's there
Why don't they make more Pokemon TCG video games? Seems like wasted potential income.
Pokemon evolved far from the gimmick TCG & TCG2 has so people would not enjoy it.
>Seems like wasted potential income.
for their online card game that people spend frick tons of cash on
Because Pokemon TCGO is their cashcow and other games would have a replacement effect.
Didn't they shut that down months ago?
oh yeah, it's TCG Live now, or whatever
I always preferred https://tcgone.net/
The forced the shutdown of the old client for a more israeli mobile client. The new client is so fricking bad that it's almost guaranteed to EOS within a year.
TCG company probably felt like it replaced the necessity for pokemon fans to actually buy cards, and even went so far as to prevent them localizing the sequel.
TCG companies in general have discovered they just need to make one game they maintain for years as the microtransactions combined with physical sales which include a code that can be put in the website to unlock the same cards will make it a cashcow, rather than doing the actual fun thing of making a new entry with a solid single player mode like you used to get.
There's just no legacy to online games. In 20 years who's going to go, "Yeah bro fire up the emulator for Pokemon TCG Online!"?
Businesses don't care about legacy, they care about money in the moment. The only time they actually want you still playing a 20 year old game is if they've rereleased it with "HD graphics", because that's the only way they'll still make money from it.
Who the frick on Ganker hates the GBC Pokemon TCG games? It was great if you were interested in the card game, but didn't want to spend hundreds of dollars trying to buy the actual cards or actual packs.
I never tried out the sequel.
Back then? No clue. I guess the video games just didn't do too well. Also, there was a time when the Pokemon TCG was getting transferred from Wizards of the Coast over to Nintendo fully, so there were probably some licensing issues at that point.
Now? Look at Magic the Gathering Arena, for a reason why Nintendo doesn't want to put out a $40 game with every TCG card in it.
For the first game?
I liked Bulbasaur + Venonat and Power Plus, since the boosted attack increased the amount of healing you got. Throw in some Koffing for poison/confusion and it's a great starter deck. Not so great later on.
Scyther + Machop + Hitmonchan is a pretty good early deck as well. Throw in Wigglytuff and some pokedolls and you have an absurdly powerful later game deck that slaps stuff around for 60 damage on turn 2 or 3.
Squirtle/Blastoise with Bill, Professor Oak, Pokemon Breeder, Pokemon Trader, and some cards that grab trainer cards from the discard pile (Item Finder) gives you one of the most broken decks from the era. Play Squirtle, Trader to get Blastoise, Breeder to evolve into Blastoise, then Bill/Oak to keep getting water energy to stack them all on Blastoise in one turn. Throw in Lapras (extra damage for more energy) and something good like Articuno, and it's easy to destroy everything in a turn or two. Don't be afraid to cycle part of your deck away with Professor Oak since you can get the cards back.
Since you can manipulate the coin flips into always landing heads, Geodude and Exeggutor can literally one-shot anything.
You can put together other broken stuff from the early TCG as well.
I loved it though, the second game is bullshit as you need rng to progress, that said I like how it forces you to make multiple decks instead of just blastoise/gyarados sweeping.
snk vs capcom cardfighters clash did it better
Wow, someone with taste. A rarity. Frick DS though, and frick 2 to an extent.
What's wrong with those
>fantranslations exist for Pokemon Card 2
>nothing officially from nintendo even now
>nintendo can barely even fricking bother to make their own for Fire Emblem 1
>still make it time-exclusive as a frick you anyways
Why
>fantranslations exist for Pokemon Card 2
>nothing officially from nintendo even now
Nintendo wouldn't be the one doing it anyway. That's on TPC with Game Freak's (primary IP owner and final say with staff on every project) and Creatures' (since they're the ones who handle the card game explicitly) a-okay.
both tpc and creatures are largely owned by nintendo
gamefreak only owns 33% of the whole pie
If a game sell poorly in the west we won't see a sequel. that's how they were back in the day. I at least have hope we will at least see TCG2 on the switch now since the first one was ported
The real problem with assuming this is that most of the work was already done. It reuses most of the music, cards, characters, and maps.
There's no way translating the maybe 20% extra would've cost more than they'd have made while mania was still in swing.
We don't. Should definitely get the second one though for more cards.
>we hate it
We hate you a lot more, fricktard
I liked it. Wish the sequel was brought over.
We don't, it's literally the best pokemon game.
It's legitimately good but gen 1 TCG is very limited in mechanics and cards.
I know there's an online pokemon TCG but it's multiplayer which gets kinda boring. I want to play a TCG with cool progression, getting better cards and stuff, trying different creative decks and all. Not the boring PvP TCG that's all about following a meta.
game is goated and nostalgic as frick. didn't even realize they made a 2nd. shoulda been localized
i think a fan localized it
We don't, it's great, but Gen 1 decks are kinda boring. There's no reason not to just build Hitmonchan/Electabuzz/Scyther haymaker and breeze through the game.
do we?
I have fond memories of this game
I never played the second one
>the psychic club
Did anyone ever get the "Phantom" Venusaur or Mew.
Yes, though I used a Gameshark. Card Pop was really unreliable
What the frick was his problem?
Imakuni? is just a dude who's super-passionate about the Pokemon card game.
He wants you to play him as a basic pokemon, but you can't.
What’s with this type of character? Is it a Japanese trope of some kind? The earthbound dungeon guy reminds me of him
No clue, but it's definitely a long running theme of characters in some sort of full body suits just showing their faces. Generally with sunglasses to cover the eyes.
Im falling for the collecting meme. How bad is buying a couple of cards for $2 every now and then?
It helps if you have a specific goal, like a master set. But if you're just buying to just to buy, once in a while doesn't hurt. Know your limits since boosters are $5 a pack now.
Unless you're just going to buy bulks, then have at it. Most are 10 cents.
>boosters are $5 a pack now.
how do people justify this? how many packs does it usually take to get something "decent?"
Same way gacha games go. You're playing the odds you're going to get something good. It's technically faster to buy the singles you need, but some of those cards go for several times the price of hopefully pulling it at random.
Honestly, I quit the TCG after Rocket. TCGs are too much of a money sink for too much of a crap shoot
former MTG player here
booster packs are ALWAYS throwing money away in practically any game
monetarily speaking. its ALWAYS better to buy single cards outright, do not fall for the lottery meme. booster packs are only really relevant in games like MTG where, aside from merely having cards, each set is designed to be played in a format where you draft cards from booster packs and buying them is part of the entry into these sealed events.
never buy "mystery" shit or repacks, its always just jank shit that wont sell by itself
have a goal in mind, dont overspend
learn what are quality products to actually protect and display your card collection, too many dumb youtubers during the pandemic TCG bubble tricked people into thinking that cards were magically worth money merely by being opened, without taking to account that they were basically destroying the cards ""value"" by throwing them around and just generally storing them improperly
i should also add, aside from buying cards outright, often times good values are those box sets that have a pre-determined assortment of cards in them
not sure how it works in pokemon but MTG would have decks that you could play with right out of the box and some of these were break-even to profitable buying them. i would do some research beforehand if you see these boxes in the stores, snap a picture, check the contents online. buy some card sleeves and have a safe dry place for them. when i was playing the best sleeves were brands like Dragon Shield although im sure that other brands like the often mediocre ultra pro have stepped up to offer good products
this guy is dorky but he was pretty good about testing different products and letting you know what has value and advocating for the player though he is MTG focused, not pokemon
https://www.youtube.com/@TolarianCommunityCollege
You're better off buying singles for Pokemon
Booster packs are a fricking scam, you'll need 4-5 packs to get something "decent" aka a card with 3 dollars in value
I tried to play the sequel since I loved the original game as a kid, but goddamn is clunky as frick. They need to do a remake or new game that doesn't require 50 menu interactions for each turn.
kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfDxSEc5mDw
Even better
Kinoest: https://youtu.be/b598xZaBM8k
Is there any good decks other than scyther + punchguy
the biggest problem with the sequel is it just reused all the music from the first game. like yeah it's really good, but I was hoping for some new stuff
whoops didn't mean to reply
There is new music in the sequel on top of the reused stuff though
Any of the old Gen 1 TCG decks work wonders.
>Raindance Blastoise
>Do the Wave Wigglytuff
>Haymaker with Mewtwo
Lickitung stall is probably the most powerful deck, but the AI isn't nearly hard enough to warrant playing like that.
I managed to outstall basically every CPU opponent with a Slowbro deck.
>Slowbro
>stack a bunch of energy onto the Slowbro
>use Bill/Oak to keep hand well stocked
>CPU uses their Bill/Oak to keep their hand filled up as well
>use its ability to move damage counter to Slowbro
>Mr. Fuji on Slowbro
>all those cards get put back into the deck
>CPU suddenly scrambling to avoid decking themselves
This, of course, assumes that I haven't already just killed them outright by then.
It’s honestly one of my favorite games of all time.
Digimon Digital Card Battle is still better though, that one might be my GOAT.
i only collected and traded pokemon cards as a kid. my friend getting this and playing it actually got him into the actual card game that none of our peers ever played. for some reason, it was less accessible and fun than yugioh which came shortly later. anywho, my buddy went on to compete and became a top player globally. now he's a married normie who's only really touched PoGO in recent years.
no idea it was hated
this was the only way i could put up with the stupid cards and make sence on how to play.
That's because the RNG was locked. Didn't like your flips or the flips hurt you in a way that mattered? Just reset and not do the flips and wait for better RNG.
What was the limited edition card it came with?
they should give you a code for it in the current TCG client with each switch online membership
Sequel has has bangers
pic related
Nice card
>resists psychic
???
Ghosts are psychic.
We have no idea how to play the card game and this game didn't help
you must be totally moronic then, the game holds your hand through one of the most laborious unskippable tutorials in any game ive ever played
I actually learned to play the card game because of this. Very few folks at the time cared about playing the game than they did collecting the cards. That still feels true to this day, considering the soifaces all over YouTube
>they never released a new DS / 3DS game centered around TCG
They fricked up big time by not even considering it, for frick sake Konami did it with Yugioh WC games for years before deciding to frick off.
People criticizing Pokemon's business practices never fails to crack me up
They take a Pikachu shaped fart and it sells 10 million copies by the time it hits your nose. They don't need your armchair advice.
And if your angle is "But the games could be better!", I've got news for you: There are way better games already out there waiting for you.
While it's easy to point out what could be done better with newer pokemon games, they just flat out gave up on making TCG vidya when it's pretty obvious they could of churned out low effort sequels over the years for easy $$$.
I've already played those.
It probably turboflopped. They didn't even bring the sequel over to the west. Even Pokémon Pinball's sequel got localized.
shit bait op have a nice day
What’s more fun modern Yu-Gi-Oh or modern Pokémon card game? Probably gonna be yu-gi-oh since this is Ganker and it’s what I’d choose anyway.
Many memories of this game. I played it in my room many times.
When the very first smartphones were invented, I put this game on my phone and just played a turn or two when I got bored.
Who hates this? It's legitimately one of the best Pokemon games to exist. The sequel is even better but you need a fan translation patch for it since it never made its way outside Japan.
I need recommendations for similar games. I love the idea of an RPG where you start with a shit deck of cards and slowly earn more as you beat opponents until you can make a good deck but all the examples I can think of are games like Slay the Spire which are designed around repeated runs. I want to enjoy my completed decks, not beat the final boss and have to start again.
Magic the gathering has a few. One made by Microprose is really old and really bad, but it's a full-ass adventure.
That old mtg game sounds like just what I'm after, I'll look into that.
These look good too, though I'm not familiar with Yugioh's rules. I'll give them a go, thanks.
You can play Yugioh Duel Academy, or Yugioh Over The Nexus.
Shadowverse Champions Battle, you can emulate it with Yuzu. (careful not to confuse it with "Shadowverse CCG" on Steam)
It's got that same metagame to it where you go through a campaign and grind packs, all singleplayer.
But I'm not sure if I'm the biggest fan of the card-game itself...
There's also "SNK vs. Capcom: Card Fighters Clash" on Nintendo DS.
Same singleplayer metagame (defeat opponents -> obtain currency -> spend currency in shop -> obtain card packs -> improve your deck).
But man, that one's gotta be one of the strangest card games I've ever played.
my bad it's called "SNK vs. Capcom Card Fighters DS".
Clash is the Neo Geo Pocket game.
Is the Pokemon TCG going through a resurgence or something right now?
I remember some Pokemon Card Game actually released on PC. It had this 3D anime girl on the side talking to you. Anyone know what that was?
Pokemon Play It!
Thank you sweetie.
Play It
>berserk 2016
I want to see Julie brought back, hopefully still looking as deranged as she always did
its pretty meh, main issue with the game is the format at the time was pretty bland.
>Play one (uno) game of the Pokemon card game
>Have a fire deck
>Other guy (assume he was a guy why else would he had a guy avatar) has a Steel deck
>All my attacks doing 500+ damage
>He's fricking dead
This is sort of unbalanced and not that fair. For him, I won.
Honestly, Pokemon TCG was never really that good.
People played it because it was Pokemon, not because it had compelling gameplay.
It's also a reason to get the video games instead of playing the actual TCG. The game mechanics are shit, but at least you can break them in fun ways when you get access to all the cards.
He should have got gud.
>playing TCG1 instead of TCG2
>in 2023
Why would anyone intentionally do that?
that and its sequel are the only fun pokemon games
It's literally the best Game Boy Color game