So, with Microsoft gone and Sony planning to expand into portable market, is there anything Nintendo can do to survive upcoming years?
Because Sony is also hardware manufacturer, they can produce more powerful and cheaper consoles than nintendo
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Nintendo is basically dead already, a PS5 pro would be the final nail in their coffin
They're about to outsell the best selling PlayStation console which is not the 5 btw
False
>peloton number 2
>instant pot number 6
Opinion discarded.
>peloton
>"the frick is that?"
>fitness brand
In what world a fitness brand would be the second biggest "global brand" in the world?
Peloton is fricking insane in the home fitness world, anon. Their brand is literally the platinum standard, even despite their shit being expensive as hell.
If somebody wants to get just about any kind of fitness machine for their home, the first and automatic question asked is "should I get a peleton."
I believe you, it can be the biggest fitness brand in the world, but one can only know that if they are into fitness stuff. I'm pretty sure most people in the world are more familiar with Disney, Facebook, and Nestlé than a fitness brand.
It's like saying Nvdia is one of the top global brands in the world. They are huge in tech, but not for the overall global population.
I agree, but then, none of those are on the list in the picture either. Coca-cola is another one that everyone on the planet knows, and it's not there either.
The image doesn't add any context for what actual critiera they're measuring by. The site used for that list is https://relevantbrands-2022.prophet.com/ , so check that out and peek at the methodology section, and you can draw your own conclusions from there.
This is the closest to objective methodology on their site
>We surveyed, 13.5k+ Consumers, 27 Industries, 293 Brands
>we selected about 90% of brands on the basis of revenue size and/or recent growth. We selected the remaining 10% on market entry criteria
Pretty shitty criteria if you ask me. The biggest revenue does not translate into most people consuming.
Can't disagree with that either. But it's what OP posted, so it's what we're ranking him about.
Sony posted that top 10 themselves.
Also, only God knows what "brand momentum" and those bs numbers even supposed to mean
>ps5 launch had a brand momentum of 73 in comparison to 56 for brand C and 49 for brand B
???
Just sounds like corporate gibberish to impress the shareholders.
Nintendo is playing it safe with the Switch 2 and that's the correct move for them. All they have to do is keep doing what they do BUT Nintendo have to develop new ips too, they can't just rely on past glory forever. Look at the new Mario, it is a failure, it does not have 2 million units sold yet. That's really bad for Nintendo right there. I don't think Microsoft exit from consoles is a lose for Nintendo even if Playstation numbers double. It doesn't mean anything for Nintendo, aside for the huge Nintendo butthurt of course.
>it does not have 2 million units sold ye
It outsold spiderman long before new year...
That's not what I saw from a chart posted in Ganker the other day.
You mean famitsu? Which is only digital sales in japan? Because wonder was nearly at 12 million globally over a month ago.
*Physical, not digital
Oh so the numbers posted the other day were bullshit? I don't play Nintendo but I saw the new Mario on Youtube and it looks nice so I was sad when I saw the numbers the new Mario was making.
Those are Japan only sales
Worldwide it sold 12 million and it's still selling
https://www.gematsu.com/2024/02/switch-worldwide-sales-top-139-36-million-super-mario-bros-wonder-tops-11-96-million
But doesn't matter
Mario RPG outselling final fantasy 16 globally is hilarious on the other hand
Serves squenix right for hogging the game's IP for so long
The fun part is that everything you said applies more to Sony than Nintendo. Given that they haven't actually made a new IP in years while the ones they currently use die of over use and lack of innovation.
And theres genuine butthurt when mentioning any of this.
Returnal is a new ip. They have several new ips. Sony make new ips every generation.
Not developed by sony
Cope, nincel
>oy vey, you anti snoymite! why aren't you giving sony credit for making franchises they had nothing to do with except publishing?! I'll be telling the ADL about this one!
>get BTFO
>instantly start having meltdown about da jooz
lmao never change, chuddies
>Returnal is a new ip.
It also wasn't made by Sony and no, buying housemarque after it was made doesn't mean that they made it.
In any case, you said they have "several" new IPs even if I give you returnal what else do you have?
>Source: SIE Global Brand Tracker
I don't even know Peloton, Instant Pot, fitbit or USAA. I'm just gonna assume 90% of the people asked were American anyway.
Actually, 100%. People looked up the "prophet brand relevance index report" some of the other times this has been posted, and it's a doozy.
>listed as "top global brands", but exclusively a relatively small sample size solely from america
>no breakdown of age, sex, race, etc of the participants
>questions were vague shit like "on a scale of 1-5, how does this brand make you FEEL?" instead of any remotely objective metrics.
The brand momentum thing is even worse, it's literally an internal algorithm to collate youtube views and twitter likes into a graph and pretend it matters.
>Actually, 100%
I shouldn't be surprised, but I expected them to at least do alibi surveys elsewhere to put 'global' on there. I've seen shitposts with more effort put into them.
It's a survey on global brands, not a global survey on brands
>Oh so the numbers posted the other day were bullshit?
No, the numbers were japan only, and only physical at that. Just because you can't read doesn't make them "bullshit".
go third party and separate their vidya business from their mascot and toy business
But no games. Amazing hardware..... no ganes.
Nintendo is meh hardware some games
I wouldn't even call the hardware amazing. Sure the PS5 iSLs "powerful" by home console standards but it's put together like ass and practically melts itself. Then there's the fact that Sony hasn't innovated on their input methods ever.
>Then there's the fact that Sony hasn't innovated on their input methods ever.
I don't own a Ps5, but the "adaptive triggers" are actually pretty cool, and I hope Nintendo and Microsoft copy it.
>Sony planning to expand into portable market
Based on what evidence?
Entire last week was full of leaks about psp2 being in development
Kinda like this week was full of xbox leaks
Playstation portal is raping the shitch so badly that they put an actual dexicatednhandheld into development. Will crush the shitch 2 even harder.
No evidence, just clickbaiters intentionally trying to mislead people.
Just like xbox releasing all their games on PS5 was "clickbaiters intentionally trying to mislead people"
>Because Sony is also hardware manufacturer, they can produce more powerful and cheaper consoles than nintendo
PCs are more powerful. Nintendo has also not had a single year where they're operating profits weren't higher than the PlayStation division's.
>Because Sony is also hardware manufacturer, they can produce more powerful and cheaper consoles than nintendo
right...about that.
It was more powerful than wii and 3ds, and cheapest model price was literally same as 3ds before price drop...
yea
and how well did that go for sony
>and cheapest model price was literally same as 3ds before price drop...
The cheapest model was still $50 more due to the memory card tax while the 3ds came with one.
>is there anything Nintendo can do to survive upcoming years?
They can make games.
>psp2
Nintendo Switch has games
And is raped by PS5 for entire month in japan
i'm starting to think japs are actually not cool and kinda cattle 🙁
Wow. A month.
Meanwhile it's at... what? 140 million sales? Switch is 100% guaranteed to become the highest selling console of all time.
You are deluded
It's at 140 million. It will sell another 15-20 million over the next couple years. That puts it above the PS2 and DS.
>20 million
not happening
Sony will never make a successful handheld.
PSP was successful
Compared to DS it wasn't
so a thing is not successful because some other thing is more successful?
Palworld killed Pokemon
Genshin killed Zelda
Nintendo is doomed.
based
lol
What the frick is brand momentum and how is Xbox supposed to be higher than Nintendo?
you tards are fricking moronic
Microsoft is not going anywhere Nintendo is doing great the only one struggling with software is Sony
get the frick over your moronic selves c**ts
>Microsoft is not going anywhere
lol
it's over
face it
Only thing that will save PS5 at this point is GTA 6 next year
I doubt it. It's not like they even have exclusivity anymore.
it won't come out on pc until 2026-2027
People won't have a choice but buy ps5 for it
>it won't come out on pc until 2026-2027
Anon, that time is gone.
It's literally announced for 2025 on consoles only...
Literally same thing as gta 5
>on consoles only
So you didn't watch the trailer.
Trailer didn't mention platforms. Rockstar's press release did.
I have no idea what Peloton, Instant Pot or USAA is and TED is only watched by homosexual pseuds
>Because Sony is also hardware manufacturer, they can produce more powerful and cheaper consoles than nintendo
Why are Snoys so fricking delusional? Sony literally can’t afford to make their consoles cheaper than Nintendo because they spent so much time and effort chasing 4K 60 FPS 5 gorillion teraflops meme with their hardware. They painted themselves into a corner by constantly chasing hyperrealistic graphics, and they’re already selling their consoles at a loss while their hardware still can’t manage.
Nintendo will probably own the biggest market share just like now. The novelty factor of hybrid systems are gone so Switch 2 won't sell as well but the software will carry if they can manage to meet 3rd parties standards for development. Which they probably will to a even greater degree than with the Switch.
Just do what they've been doing for the last 40 years really. Nintendo has a number of unique IPs that are so culturally ingrained, they can sell systems on their own. And as long as systems are sellable, other people will ask to put their own games on it.
I don't personally like their shit very much, but I easily recognize the clout they hold in vidyaland.