So you want to have realistic giants in your game, do you? Fine, but there will be consequences. You have been warned.
To overcome the square-cube law, a giant must be unimaginably strong and dense. A giant is so strong that a glancing kick completely liquefies the skeleton of a man in full plate. A giant is so dense that a man charging on horseback with a couched lance does no damage whatsoever, even when the man could batter down a castle wall.
Still want to have realistic giants in your game?
So you want to have realistic elephants in your game, do you? Fine, but there will be consequences. You have been warned.
To overcome the square-cube law, an elephant must be unimaginably strong and dense. An elephant is so strong that a glancing kick completely liquefies the skeleton of a man in full plate. An elephant is so dense that a man charging on horseback with a couched lance does no damage whatsoever, even when the man could batter down a castle wall.
Still want to have realistic giants in your game?
>Still want to have realistic giants in your game?
You fricked up.
Yeah but I didn't feel like fixing it
Giant elephants
No, you've convinced me anon, only cute small elephants in my game from now on.
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Beware their power
>Still want to have realistic giants in your game?
Naturally, the namegay fricks it up.
Perfect, they'll make an excellent opponent for our party of power-armored soldiers.
They’ll fit right in
>So you want to have realistic giants in your game, do you?
Nah, one of the coolest things about fantasy is the ability to move away from reality on the basis of its own internally consistent rules.
But you do raise very good points for those who do want realistic giants, so good job in your fight against... whoever this is directed towards.
It's really productive in comparison to just making things how you want.
>giants are strong and hardy
Good job deducing that one moron
You the same moron who thinks they "fixed" 3.5?
???
>square cube meme
all you need to do is shift some anatomy. Just make the legs tick and trunk like, like an elephant
I hear people talk about how square cube would kill Godzilla but Goji's thicc as frick
>A giant is so strong that a glancing kick completely liquefies the skeleton of a man in full plate
Absolutely bonkers-moronic physics on display here. People have gone into combat against fricking elephants and nothing of the sort would have happened you absolute dipshit.
>To overcome the square-cube law, a giant must be unimaginably strong and dense. A giant is so strong that a glancing kick completely liquefies the skeleton of a man in full plate.
Go the other way. Giants are actually normal size people and Just happened to that everyone else in the world just happens to be perfectly proportioned tiny people exact same scale to TableTop miniatures.
>Water surface tension can trap a man in a bubble.
I looked up the square-cube law and was immediately hit with how fricking stupid whoever came up with it was in regards to biomechanics.
>If an animal were isometrically scaled up by a considerable amount, its relative muscular strength would be severely reduced, since the cross section of its muscles would increase by the square of the scaling factor while its mass would increase by the cube of the scaling factor. As a result of this, cardiovascular and respiratory functions would be severely burdened.
>As stated by J. B. S. Haldane, large animals do not look like small animals: an elephant cannot be mistaken for a mouse scaled up in size. This is due to allometric scaling: the bones of an elephant are necessarily proportionately much larger than the bones of a mouse, because they must carry proportionately higher weight.
Let us disregard the fact that
>Anaconda's look like garden snakes
>Flat-tailed house geckos look like komodo dragons
>Pygmy elephants are a thing, and look identical to full-size elephants
And lets not ignore the fact that the Dreadnaughtus outright disproves the moronic "Square-cube """""LAW""""""' outright with the fact that it's equivalent in size to the largest aquatic animals, which the moronic homosexuals who thought up this fake "law" gave the excuse that since they live in the ocean, it allowed those animals to be larger.
Frick those stupid b***h-ass moron scientist fricks. Absolute, fricking, NONCES.
elephants are a thing, and look identical to full-size elephants
And they aren't even the smallest ones. The dwarf elephants that were around during the Ice Age had pretty much the same proportions as modern elephants despite being about the height of a large dog. And as a side note, some historians believe that ancient Greeks finding dwarf elephant skulls was the original inspiration for the cyclops in myth.
>The dwarf elephants that were around during the Ice Age had pretty much the same proportions as modern elephants despite being about the height of a large dog.
I was born in the wrong era.
>Let us disregard the fact
At the same time as you were disregarding the fact that komodo dragons and anacondas aren't large animals. Komodo dragons are several kg more massive than me and while I may be on /tg/, I'm not a fatguy. Komodo dragons are about 10 kg less massive than your typical adult yank. Anacondas are normally less than human mass so also not large, not even the larger ones at about 150 kg max are not large animals.
You're also disregarding that Haldane wasn't talking about the outside appearance but anatomical structure, like when that quote mentions bone specifically.
And you're disregarding that law doesn't mean what you're wanting people to think it means, and it's only an approximation that tells you that larger animals are not directly linear scaling up of smaller animals.
>Anaconda's look like garden snakes
They absolutely do not except in the broad sense that they're both snakes. They have different shapes and very different proportions. Also that's not how you pluralize in English.
>Flat-tailed house geckos look like komodo dragons
Yeah maybe if you're fricking blind.
>Pygmy elephants are a thing, and look identical to full-size elephants
They're also almost as big as a full-size elephant.
That's right! And don't get me started on "gravity"!
Square cube law was debunked a decade ago you absolute shit-for-brains.
What does that have to do with my post you homo? Did you get triggered like a globetard you are?
>like a globetard you are
ESL
>Absolute, fricking, NONCES.
Nonce means pedophile, not moron, moron.
I can't tell if you're being genuine, or you're actually inbred frick-stupid.
>You want to have [REALISM] in your game, do you? Fine, but there will be consequences. You have been warned.
Magic? Right out. There's no magic in the real world.
Adventuring? You fricking wish. You'd die without a full team of people to help move everything you need to survive out in wilds you're unfamiliar with.
Monsters? There's no monsters, just animals and people. I guess people can be "monsters" but no beholders or dragons or giants.
Weapons? You have your choice of a club, axe, spear, bow (if you could afford the time to actually train with one), or javelin. You want a sword? What the frick are you doing adventuring when you can afford a sword?
I think you get the point.
Still want to have [REALISM] in your game?
>You'd die without a full team of people to help move everything you need to survive out in wilds you're unfamiliar with.
Guess you've never heard of Jeremiah Johnson.
>You want a sword? What the frick are you doing adventuring when you can afford a sword?
Well according to the bible/Jesus, a sword cost about as much as a cloak.
>Magic? Right out
Magic is just technology of sufficient complexity that we cannot comprehend it.
>Monsters?
Never heard of the Beast of Gevaudan?
Gospel of Luke 22:36-38, NKJV
>Jeremiah Johnson
He was just a murder hobo, not an adventurer.
>Well according to the bible/Jesus...
We're talking about realism here, anon.
>Magic is just technology of sufficient complexity that we cannot comprehend it.
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to whine about Clark tech. Let me guess, you want some super advanced ancient civilization who just left a bunch of metal swords (that can cut through anything) laying around because they all died in a very sudden apocalypse that only wiped them (and their hubris) out right?
>Beast of Gevaudan
A wolf or dog is not a monster.
>He was just a murder hobo, not an adventurer.
Tomato Tomato
>We're talking about realism here, anon.
Yes, we are. ???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
>Let me guess, you want some super advanced ancient civilization who just left a bunch of metal swords (that can cut through anything) laying around because they all died in a very sudden apocalypse that only wiped them (and their hubris) out right?
Yup, and there's precisely nothing you can do about it.
>A wolf or dog is not a monster.
It was neither of those.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
I don't know about nowadays but there was a point where 6/8 sources cited for "Jesus definitely existed" on that page were from current or former priests.
Is Oxford University a "former priest" all of a sudden?
>the Bible thumper is also moronic
Who would have guessed?
>The gorilla-nig is also a dumb-gay
IMAGINE MY SHOCK
leave it to a religious homosexual to start sucking Jesus wiener without anybody asking.
>immediately thinks about sucking wiener when somebody likes something
>So you want to have realistic giants in your game, do you?
No.
>So you want to have realistic giants in your game, do you?
Literally who asked for this?
Humanoid giants beyond a certain size don't make sense, it's a standing /tg/ issue which any person may address at any time, OP is just memeing (in the good sense, 'having fun with memes', not in the mindlessly-regurgitated-opinions sense).
Giants should be inherently aligned with cosmic ideals of bigness which allow them to be taller than Godzilla. This also allows them to be different sizes in different panels if the artist is lazy. Also dwarves should be 800 lbs and should count as giants, they're just short giants who are stuck being short.
Okay OP, nobody cares
What if a god just found giant women insanely hot so he made some, but then didn’t want them to be lonely so he made giant men? You ever stop and think of that, huh?
>Humanoid giants beyond a certain size don't make sense
Why not? Oh right, square-cube law. But what if it simply doesn't work like that?
I never wanted realistic giants in my game to begin with. I wanted giants that would work in a game. Now post a stat block or frick off
>REEEEEE I'LL SHOW ALL YOU REALISTIC GIANTgayS
>you know, the ones that never existed
Ironic that a thread about giants is tilting at windmills so hard
What the frick are you gibbering on about, incredibly dense my arse. Take a look at this big bastard. Did T-Rexes have to use angle grinders and acetaleyn torches just to get a meal off these? You moron.
Dinosaurs aren't real. They never were real. You fell for a hoax. I've been to the big dinosaur museums. I've seen kids even come to the realization that this was all make believe. Hell, my best friend was in tears over it. The "fossils" on display are admitted fakes or reproductions. I've held "real" ones in my hands. Hoax.
Black person I've dug them up.
Very large land animals actually tend to have less dense bone. Dinosaur bones were full of 'air sacks' which made them very light, while remaining relatively strong. Dense bone is a terrible solution, because it is only slightly stronger while adding a lot of weight. You typically only find it in (semi-) aquatic animals which need to counteract buoyancy (e.g. hippos) or in very specific structures (e.g. ankle bones of heavy animals).
>A giant is so dense that a man charging on horseback with a couched lance does no damage whatsoever, even when the man could batter down a castle wall.
That's unrealistic as frick, they don't suddenly grow an exoskeleton moron. They would just have denser bones (a literal non-issue) and stronger muscle. It's not difficult to cut elephant hide.
The whole EXTREME DENSITY thing would have made more sense if OP had posted a giga-giantess. Though I do like how those bullet holes look.
... who are you referencing, OP?
NTA, but that's not what "projecting" means. Lol.
Based. Just like dragons and dinosaurs and nature and wizards/physics. They don’t frick around.
> Still want to have realistic giants in your game?
Yes I do. Games should be lethal and about cunning, not turning off your brain foolery. God I hate present tabletop.
OP, you're really fricking stupid. You could just give them hollow bones like dinosaurs.
Elephant bones are also full of gaps which make them lighter while maintaining structural stability.
>So you want to have realistic giants in your game, do you?
I do and I have em thank you
Why would a wooly giant need clothes?
for the stat boosts
>So you want to have realistic giants in your game, do you?
No, I don't play fantasy games to sperg about realism.
I do not want realistic
I want pseudo realistic where it's mostly real and rationale, but things can be bent and handwaved.
Also, it's mostly to serve the purpose of having giant waifus
So you want to have realistic ERP in your game, do you? Fine, but there will be consequences. You have been warned.
To overcome the square-cube law, an ERP must be unimaginably strong and dense. A ERP is so strong that a glancing blow completely liquefies the pants of a man in full plate. A ERP bussy is so tight that a man charging on horseback with a couched lance does no penetration whatsoever, even when the man could batter down a brothel wall.
Still want to have realistic ERP in your game?
>To overcome the square-cube law, a giant must be unimaginably strong and dense
That's the opposite of how that would work, you inane c**t.
Also square cube law isn't something you need to 'overcome' if you're working with a 6-12 meters tall giant, they just need to have an anatomical structure accounting for their needs. Thick legs, sturdy feet, wide hips, that sort of stuff.
earth didnt weigh as much back then. we got iron discs added later by the titans to increase gravity
Fricking titans, ruining everything
So your telling me, my Giant GF would have them birthing hips?
Her giantess hips could accomodate your whole adult body.
So you want to have a game do you?
First you need to overcome your crippling social moronation. Then have a nice day, homosexual.
Still want to play a game?
sooooo was there a giant in Afghanistan or not?
Yes, but only as a distraction. A big ginger dude with weird teeth is odd enough to grab the intrest and supress to gather mo intrest but mundane enough to be used as a distraction. Nobody went into those mountains to hunt giants.
Why giants always have to be savage or stupid
I want to see intelligent giants
Let a sci-fi setting have an advanced humanoid alien species who just happen to have an average height of 16 feet
>So you want to have realistic giants in your game, do you?
No. Who has ever said this?
Also your argument is nonsense anyway
So you want to have realistic local lords in your game, do you? Fine, but there will be consequences. You have been warned.
To be realistic, a local lord's men-at-arms in full harness must be unimaginably strong and dense. A man-at-arms is so strong that a glancing blow from his pollaxe completely liquefies the skeleton of a man in full plate. A man-at-arm's full harness is so dense that a man charging on horseback with a couched lance does no damage whatsoever, even when the man could batter down a castle wall.
Still want to have realistic local lords in your game?
Stronger muscles would mean more blood flow which means an even larger heart is needed wouldn't it? Seems like that'd just make things worse from an evolutionary pov
My answer to this is that giant souls are slightly reality warping and it scales with size. In a mundane world like ours they'd collapse into steaming gore but through the radiance of their spiritual organs the world is convinced otherwise. Honestly most magic works like that.
Absolutely, that sounds metal as frick
>To overcome the square-cube law, a giant must be unimaginably strong and dense
You screwed up OP. Density is not a function of square-cube. Square-cube relates area and volume, it says nothing about density. Contrary to unimaginable density, which would require still more strength to support, a giant would require low density.
If it had unimaginable density then the materials it stands upon have to have even greater strength than normal and then they are capable of overcoming the strength of the giant's own flesh.
If it was heavy it would require huge amounts of energy to move and that indicates energy enough exists to overcome the resistance of its own dense flesh.
The way you wrote about strength says you meant muscular strength, but what it really needs is a low density, high strength material.
Sounds like an interesting challenge for the players to overcome.
>Still want to have realistic giants in your game?
If anything you convinced me to put them in.
Simply shoot the giant in the head with your assault rifle.
>jokes on you giants would actually have to be super strong and bulky
So they’d just look like ogres
The dominant (according to both species count and raw biomass) lifeform on this planet is small insects. You are already a giant. Are you sure you want to be removed?
op is clearly a manlet
I get the impression that no one here actually has any clue what the square cube law actually means
It just means that if you scale up an animal, it now has to support weight that its skeleton (if it maintains identical shape and proportions) was not designed to support; hence, a giant humanoid would need to have different proportions than that of a normal sized human. There's living, visible proof of this principle: people with gigantism often have difficulty walking and standing, and typically die young (Robert Wadlow died at 22). Their hearts can't pump enough blood to support their whole body, and they suffer from joint pain and muscle weakness.
So a healthy "natural" giant of 10-15 feet would need to have stronger and wider legs and torso, a "stubby" or otherwise lighter upper body, and proportionally larger heart and lungs to circulate blood better. They would look almost like giant dwarfs rather than giant humans.
But nice normal 8 foot tall amazonian snu-snu giantesses can totally exist in physics, and that is all I need.
All that said, OP is talking out of his ass when he says that a Giant would be totally invulnerable to conventional piercing weapons.
You didn't mention how much it needs to eat, how it warps the ecosystem and the very space around it because of size
How did this exist OP?
Much larger then your OP image of a giant. Hell an elephant is about as tall as your picture of a giant. You can be pushed by an elephant without your skeleton getting liquidified. It would hurt though and an elephant could easily kill you but it's far from skeleton liquidation
Because
So basically you're describing a 21 strength giant vs. an 8 strength peasant? Seems to already be realistic even in D&D then
I like to think giants all have progeria or something. That's why they are tall but not quite as strong as you'd expect because they have weird deformities. Probably a consequence of inbreeding.
Thats where you're wrong buck-o
My giants are like, 2ft at best and everyone else is tiny
Anon, Elephants and giraffes both exist.
A giant may have slightly odd proportions and a bulky head, but they can exist.
>he believes in giraffes
I've seen a platypus, I can believe in lots of animals.
>So you want to have realistic giants in your game, do you?
Not really. Don't know where you got that impression.
Goliath was actually normal size, David was simply a israelite manlet.
Also, it never actually happened, so there's that too.
Based on the length of the sling, that stone is headed for Goliath's chest.
A realistic giant is like 8 or 9 ft.
Not very giant, but stands out like a fighter out of Okuto no Ken.
1.3 or 1.5x height, cubed to 2.2 or 3.4
In lbs, that's 440 or 680 lbs.
Frickhuge, that's about how much a big male tiger weights, and just as formidable, even more because it's a humanoid and possibly smart and uses tools, but not outside of what we already see in this world.
>You want to have giants in your game? Fine. But they're like, strong and stuff. Still want giants?
WHAT THE FRICK ARE YOU EVEN TRYING TO SAY? YEAH GIANTS ARE STRONG THAT'S ALREADY A BIG PART OF GIANTS.
Huh, the smithsonian actually provided evidence in court that they had destroyed giant corpses to preserve the mainstream views of history and evolution.
Giants were motherfricking real, thunor/thor of germanic proto-indo-european religious origin actually did fight motherfricking giants because motherfricking giants were real! and I thought the snippet I read about a giant corpse in the historical writings of Ahmad Ibn Fadlan was pure absurdity. Put that with the tales numerous native american tribes have of ancient white giant people in north america and it's all too much for coincidence.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/smithsonian-giant-skeletons/
This is what I mean by giants always seeming to be surrounded by /x/-tier babble.
>unironically using snopes
The evidence provided in this article is
>It's fake because we say it is
>It's fake because if you google this institute nothing but these articles comes up
Ten years ago this second argument would have carried weight, but today we know google engages and has been engaged, in global censorship with the aim of constructing a narrative so wether or not something "can be found on the internet" doesn't carry any weight now.
>if such a supreme court decision had occurred it would be both easily searchable and published widely in the media
We also know that the media does not publish everything of importance especially if it contradicts a constructed narrative. We also know that courts will participate in this grand narrative quite willingly in numerous capacities as demonstrated in the last 4 years to a terrifying degree.
So Snopes entire argument is "Trust the ~~*experts*~~, trust the ~~*sources*~~, trust the ~~*science*~~, don't think for yourself"
And that is argument enough to make me go against them.
Yeah and the argument for giants is “Okay, well, you can’t exactly prove what we said happened, but you should still trust us anyway”
No, I've actually included there a reference to giants not part of the articles or images associated with any of this, the giant skeleton documented by Ahmad Ibn Fadlan, a notably reliable arab scholar who took great care to say when something was told to him secondhand or seen with his own eyes and who quite notably refrained from the later historical trend of inventing fantastical lies to fluff tales of travels. The same scholar who gives us a unique and detailed record of pagan viking ship burial customs.
>Then Almish increased the pressure on Ibn Fadlān by taking him to a dark forest to view the remains of a giant that he had had hanged. The giant had been found swimming in the river, could not speak and was so hideous that pregnant women miscarried when they saw him. Apparently, he was from the lands of Gog and Magog, the threatening realm that featured so prominently in contemporary Islamic conceptions of the Apocalypse. The sight of the giant’s remains, which included a skull the size of a beehive, must have been a sobering experience for Ibn Fadlān: ‘I was astonished at the sight. Then I went away.’
>Ten years ago this second argument would have carried weight, but today we know google engages and has been engaged, in global censorship with the aim of constructing a narrative so wether or not something "can be found on the internet" doesn't carry any weight now.
Google isn't the only search engine and it can't delete websites. Take your meds.
Yea, and spiders are arial worms, and derive their nourishment from the air. Take your meds.
It's Christians. Not necessarily true-believer Christians, but kids from Christian households, they were taught bible stories as facts and then they were told that science is a conspiracy and then they were allowed to browse /x/.
That's super dumb for a very obvious reason: The existence of giants is biblical. Nobody would have seen it as support for evolution besides from people who believed in it.
>"For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of the giants [rephaim]. Indeed his bedstead was an iron bedstead. (Is it not in Rabbah of the people of Ammon?) Nine cubits is its length and four cubits its width, according to the standard cubit" (Deuteronomy 3:11).
>"Yet it was I who destroyed the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars, and he was as strong as the oaks; yet I destroyed his fruit above and his roots beneath. Also it was I who brought you up from the land of Egypt, and led you forty years through the wilderness, to possess the land of the Amorite" (Amos 2:9–10).
Interestingly the site of Og's city and Bashan in general is full of neolithic megaliths, simialrlly to how Stonehenge in the UK is associated in with giants, the Saxons calledRoman ruins giant work, and the walls of Myceane in Greece were called cyclopean.
It's all purely coincidental. Don't ask questions.
Purely natural phenomena, of course. No questions needed.
https://megalithicmarvels.com/2017/04/30/megaliths-in-montana/
Of all the cool giant pictures of them fighting Romans or modern day, it’s alway schizo shit from /x/.
Why is that?
Whenever people say "Realism means everything sucks and everyone will die eailsily!" I often wonder how much they *actually* know about history. According to these frick-Black personing morons every single human being should have died the moment they weren't born into an era of either smart phones or magic. I seriously can't imagine being so unfathomably ignorant as to think survival in the medieval age was next to impossible, especially seeing as THE WORLD FRICKING SURVIVED IT AND EVEN HAD TIME FOR RECREATION. Europe literally started making sheet music, universities, advanced recipes in cooking, new methods of forging better steel, new fashion, new alcohol, etc. But somehow these smooth-brained anti-history types think that taking a deep brewlath or stabbing your toe made you die so hard your whole village would drop dead. What the actual frick?
It started when some dipshit Italian coined the term "dark age" because he missed SPQR and the his bootland mattering. Everything after it fell must have been shit and everything before current era must also have been shit because it's current era and they can't imagine living in any other. Enough people believed it that when they spout their bullshittery they have enough head nodding from their peers that it get's reinforced unquestiond beyond asking how shit it was, which encourages more mud core misery porn.
I kinda get the appeal of mudcore, but that's not historical realism neither. (Seems you know that already) It's, what, hyper-realism? But even then it's not even remotely accurate.
Why is the guy on the right so rude
The guy that just wants to chill in the forest? Not the guy on murder rampage?
Except he was 100% right. More people knew how to read and write before the fall of the Roman Empire than they did for nearly a thousand years after it. The Renaissance was when society began to develop back to the same standard of quality you had in antiquity.
Roman's had flushable toilets, heated flooring, highly developed systems of engineering used for developing their aquaducts, mega-structures, and roads, and were capable of mass-producing steel swords and plated armor for their basic infantry.
And they threw all of it away because, just like we're seeing nowadays, a bunch of backwards luddite moron germanics, anglos, and scandinavians went "muh heritage" and "ooga-booga'd" the standing powers into reverting to the putrescent shitholes from which they originated, that every other civilized human being realizes was shit, and does NOT want to go back to. FRICK 90% of Europe. The Italians had that shit on lock down.
Most romans were slaves or living like dark age indians.The ruling elite of roman society were so advanced because society was massively lopsided, far moreso than the germanics. Basically a gigantic slave economy designed to uphold a decadent ruling caste.
Germanics and anglos are both physically stronger and more intelligent than italians. All the "vgh... rome and empire" stuff is just sad whataboutism. Its germanics in one form or another who have invented everything that has enabled modern quality of life, and its nordics who consistently dominate in physical pursuits/competitions.
Proto-Germanics had an active advanced metallurgy that even greeks envied, going back like 5000 years. And this is actual shit, not national socialist atlantis conspiracy theory stuff.
Seems like this was only interrupted by that little ice age.
>not national socialist atlantis conspiracy theory stuff
keep studying
the idea of an altland or urheimat i not wrong, but the specifics of any atlantis theory I've seen are all absurd. even the oera linda fails to stand up to the progressive archaeological and literary studies of proto-germanics, proto-indo-european/yamnaya language/culture and runic discoveries, like Iberians having older alphabets than the phoenicians and sumerians, etc...
The concept of the elements that created deutsch culture being from the oldest civilizations and languages is correct, just not in the occultist-specified details.
>but the specifics of any atlantis theory I've seen are all absurd
probably because people are trying to put a puzzle together without having all the pieces
Which is fine, but when they start filling in the gaps with their own unverified personal gnosis (ie; literal dreams and bullshit) then you get problems.
Like one of the pieces figured out in my lifetime is that runes come from the Iberian peninsula, likely entered into use during the time when the Yamnaya patrilineal pastoral semi-nomad wolf cultists were moving westward and integrating their society with the old european matrilineal agricultural worshipers of a mother goddess. The runes likely entered this budding society as a result of trade routes from the iberian peninsula going north for their desirable metals and green beads. At this point the proto-germanics saw the iberian runes and adopted them as magical symbols, a couple thousand years pass and the descendants of these people start rubbing shoulders with rome that has an Alphabet and eventually some goth cheiftan/priest matches the old iberian runes up against the latin letters by shape, correlates those sounds and Elder Futhark becomes a writing system.
No other connection to the Iberian peninsula in that direction, just picked up the old writing through trade. Other than that the Iberian peninsula received a lot of cultural and genetic elements fromt he east, but thousands of years ago this one piece of an older and largely unconnected society became a part of German Heritage that is otherwise derived from the wedding of Frau Holle (from the aforementioned agriculturalists) with the sky gods of the steppe horseman wolf cultists that resulted in the germanic pantheon as it's own thing separate from other proto-indo-european descended religions.
Celts were the ones with the advanced metallurgy
The story of the smith who sells his soul to a powerful entity originates in the pontic steppe and the celtic (as with all other versions of it) is a later inherited story. It's actually a rather significant cultural marker that stands out, like the cosmic hunt.
I like to base my giants off of the areas they reside in. Hill Giants and Cave Giants being the most primitive and weak then Forest, Swamp, Fire, Sea, Cloud, and Storm giants. Sea Giants wield tridents and nets for fishing and they rule as kings of their coasts often engaging in conflicts with pirates and naga. They're skin is dark orange and also cracked like scars from the sun and long history of battle. Storm and Cloud giants both are unique in that they have large giant societies unlike the others where they have common rules of civilization. Storm giants live in valleys and mountaintops while Cloud giants possessing a high natural capacity for magic live in cityes built onto the clouds. Both Storm and Fire giants are the only giants that are masters of forging and those that have moved well beyond the bronze age.
You seen that movie Troll Hunter? Reminds me of that, and I approve.
That sounds awesome.
Yes
Nope. Not in my world. Cause magic. So they aren't so dense. Unlike myself.
The confirmed naturally tallest man (as opposed to glandular problem) was Angus MacAskill who was a Scott who lived on Cape Breton Island but at puberty grew to be 7 foot, 8 or 9 inches by age 22.
This is what a person looks like at 8 feet.
Now I have a feeling for imaginary giants.
Living psudeohistory that arises out of the forested mountains and islands of a world.
Their half-real rock shelters and ghost-brick masonary citadels are home to tribes of people nver less that 8 feet tall and frequently 10 or higher. Slay them and their castles revert back to dead mens' markers or odd rocks.
Their unreal state gives them strange magic but many people discount them becuase they sprout mammoth and other megafauna features. Components of the bones people used to believe them up.
Too much attention and they will inevitable be killd off or be dispove, vaporating into the imagination they arose from.
I get why that Amon kept calling this stuff schizophrenic. But why only giants?
Why doesn’t dragons set you people off as much?
You wanna proofread your post and try asking again?
~~*They*~~ don't want you to know about israelites, giants, altland or free electricity.
I think this is the first time I've ever read the phrase "realistic giants," is this something anyone has ever asked for?
I asked for giants that live on clouds one time, and another time I ranted about how giants are the perfect antagonist to a delusional hero but that was in real life and I don't think OP is an ai connected to my phone that certainly wasn't listening to me at the time.
>Oh no, now my gritty realism game has gritty, realistic consequences
Am I supposed to be disappointed by this?