>Developed by Arzest, the devs with an abysmal track record of mediocre games like Yoshi's New Island and Balan Wonderworld.
>Music is going to be more Genesis fart garbage by Jun Senoue.
>Zone themes are uninspired trash.
>The new character Trip is overdesigned and forgettable.
>Naoto Oshima is back working on level design which means crappy Sonic 1 and CD tier levels.
>Graphics look like ass and on par with Sonic 4, a fricking mobile shovelware title.
>Switch version in particular is mega ugly.
>Iizuka says pixel art is dead and Whitehead would rather work on Penny's Big Breakaway than a Mania 2 (Which already looks more fun and inventive than Sonic Shitterstars).
>Releasing in the same timeframe as Super Mario Bros. Wonder, which looks infinitely more polished and soulful.
>Not even on Steam, Epic Games exclusive instead.
>Will have Denuvo DRM guaranteed at launch.
Meanwhile all Sonicgays care about is if Fang is fricking playable. I have never seen a more miserable fanbase blinded by nostalgia and copium. You guys keep holding on to some faint glimmer of hope that is never going to materialize. LET. THE FRICK. GO. ALREADY.
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Le Sonic was never le good.
Idk digital realm where you turn into squids is cool.
Apologise
He looks so fricking weird.
Looking at this man makes me want to listen to The Beetles.
900000000 microseconds in paint.net
Here's a few more microseconds.
Those are better, but I'm trying to show that color alone makes a big difference.
Even better
I want that deeper blue but classic Sonic "isn't that color" because modern Sonic stole it from him.
but even then that makes no sense when tails, knuckles and amy are all the same color as their modern versions
Holy shit who gives a shit about 2D sonic gameplay or classic sonic, where the frick is the Sonic adventure remake
I care... but I also wouldn't mind an SA remake.
Sonic Team already fricked up SA1 enough with DX.
Stop wishing for them to do it again, you fools
Who says Sonic Team has to remake it?
SEGA will never let non nipponese people to remake SA1/2, homosexuals. Taxman isn't going to save you, nor is some fan like Lake is going to get hired to save Adventure era.
Naka lost, cope.
>Kill la Kill gay
Cringe
>Tendie AND a Naka wienersucker
Holy shit, seek therapy.
>Not even on Steam, Epic Games exclusive instead.
?
>Developed by Arzest
Doesn't matter, game looks good. Though I will say, Yoshi's New Island's main problem isn't its gameplay, but rather its music
>Music is going to be more Genesis fart garbage by Jun Senoue.
That's not even true, have you actually listened to any of it?
>Zone themes are uninspired trash.
Again, not true. Speed Jungle alone is pretty creative
>The new character Trip is overdesigned and forgettable.
Trip is cute. Just give her time
>Naoto Oshima is back working on level design which means crappy Sonic 1 and CD tier levels.
CD sure, but 1's level design is pretty good, especially for the time. It understood that Sonic is a platformer game better than any game from 2 onwards 3K is better, though
>Graphics look like ass and on par with Sonic 4, a fricking mobile shovelware title.
You're blind, this game looks pretty good
>Switch version in particular is mega ugly.
I'll concede on that
>Releasing in the same timeframe as Super Mario Bros. Wonder, which looks infinitely more polished and soulful.
Isn't that the game people on Ganker were calling "fake soul"? Either way, it'll do fine. Not everyone's a poorgay
>Not even on Steam, Epic Games exclusive instead.
>Will have Denuvo DRM guaranteed at launch.
Yeah, so do a lot of games
Shit thread, OP is a queer as usual
I'm tired of pretending CD has bad level design just because it isn't full of dedicated gofast sections.
>I'm tired of pretending CD has bad level design
We gonna pretend Labyrinth, Hilltop, Carnival Night and Sandopolis don't exist? Yeah, Wacky Workbench is AIDS, but it's an entire order of magnitude worse than the rest of the game. Tidal Tempest and Quartz Quadrant in particular are fantastic.
What the frick is even bad about Hill Top there are moments where you go fast in that level? It’s not that bad, the others aren’t bad imo unless you’re bad at video games, but Labyrinth is how you DON’T design a water level, I’ll give you that.
Hill Top is a goddamn mess that the team salvaged with Marble Garden in 3. Absolute bore of a level. Would bring the game down if Mystic Cave wasn't kino.
What are you talking about?
Marble Garden is the most boring Sonic level
There's literally no way to die and it's too long and filled with shit gimmicks
My super contrarion opinion is that the boss battle in Labyrinth is really good, actually
Out of all those zones, only Carnival Night ever annoyed me slightly. Sandopolis in particular I never understood why is hated so much. Those ghosts were never a big problem to me.
Wacky Workbench is the worst of all, but not enough to ruin the game though, yeah.
Oshima is back working on level design which means crappy Sonic 1 and CD tier levels.
Frick you, 1 and CD levels are good. Just because it has a zone that's isn't well designed, that doesn't mean the whole game isn't well designed.
I would rather take Wacky Workbench over Sandopolis Act 2, at least I don't have to worry about running out of time or getting lost in sand slides.
>giant ramp
>not giant loop
god fricking dammit, artist
wew I totally remember it being just a ramp, too. I can see how he made that mistake.
One of the best examples of trope inversion in a level design
What do you mean?
There is nothing wrong with Wacky Workbench. Unironically, get good.
*Throws you 500 feet into the air.*
Skill issue
I just want mighty and ray as playable character
>Naoto Oshima is back working on level design which means crappy Sonic 1 and CD tier levels
Still better than any of the 2D level design of the last 15 years.
>"LET. THE FRICK. GO. ALREADY."
>After you just typed all that shit
moron. I'm buying Superstars and not Wonder. Frick off.
>Yoshi's New Island
The only bad thing about this game was the music.
>Story
>Mario game
Who gives a shit?
Should have been Baby Bowser but what the frick ever.
>Who gives a shit?
People with discriminating minds.
You're right, NSMBW was bad because the story sucked. Fricking moron.
I didn't say that, moron. Your binary thinking betrays your stupidity.
>GAME BAD BECAUSE BAD WRITING
>Here's another good game from the same series with shit writing.
>NOOOO DOESN'T COUNT
Black person.
Who are you quoting?
Keep playing coy while saying nothing of substance, homosexual.
...he says in relation to the game series where 90% of the time the plot is Peach getting kidnapped, even in spin-offs.
In most games the story matters, sure. But in Mario, the story is generally the least important part. You could make a case for the RPGs, but not fricking Yoshi's Island.
Yoshi's Island DS already had adult Bowser somehow return on top of Baby Wario being around despite Super Mario Land supposedly being the first time he meets Wario.
The Yoshi games never took what little canon exists for Mario seriously.
Don't care, still buying Sonic Superstars.
>Balan Wonderworld
You can't blame Arzest wholly for that, the entire development history of that game was a shitshow thanks to Naughty Yuji.
The only good 2D Sonic games were made by white people.
3D Blast?
But the best Sonic game was made by a black person?
I don't think MJ was a programmer.
>I don't think MJ was a programmer.
I don't think MJ knew how to code in assembly, no.
What wasn't MJ? The guy wrote, danced, and directed and continued performing on stage after falling 50ft from the sky. He was too talented and got assassinated
Falling 50ft from the air? What in the world are you talking about?
Sonic has always been degenerateslop
There is nothing wrong with liking cute and lewd are of the characters that you designed.
It's just another way to show appreciation.
My biggest concern is that they're going to frick up the level design just to make it work for co-op. And also because it's Sega, they might rush Arzest to release it in an incomplete state.
I don't think the game will be bad, but all the prerelease footage and screens have heavy "we have Sonic Mania at home" vibes. It just isn't instilling that feeling of excitement and wonder like Mania did.
I disagree but only because they have Ohshima on board and it's all new levels, both those things help it feel more special, especially since we haven't gotten a Sonic game with exclusively new themes since Colors (Lost World I guess counts too even though Windy Hill speaks for itself and every other world in the game is just a theme from NSMB without much else to help it feel unique/Sonic like)
I mean, how many throwbacks/celebrations of Sonic do we really need? Mania was only 6 years ago and Generations 6 years before that. Superstars looks like a bootleg Mania but made by people that haven't had any true passion for the series since like Adventure.
Superstars isn't a nostalgia acid trip, it's suppose to be classicgays getting their branch of Sonic back when japs seethed too hard over it when making SA1 and forced a split since.
Crazy OP but you are a homosexual and all characters from the Sonic multiverse are Built for Big Human wiener.
>Will have Denuvo DRM guaranteed at launch.
That one I'm pretty certain of.
>Not even on Steam, Epic Games exclusive instead.
However that is incorrect. I think they aren't making any digital storefront pages available at this time is because they're waiting to drop the release date.
>>Not even on Steam, Epic Games exclusive instead.
please be joking
You spelled Nick Brawl 2 wrong dumbass, Sonic will at least overshadow that
>nick brawl 2
nobody cares about nostalgiaslop shovelware targetted at millenials. itll fizzle out like a wet fart after a few months just like multiversus and hot wheels did.
Put aside memes/shitposting for a second and tell me if sonic origins plus is actually "decent" now
i allready have the decomps
There's nothing wrong with Whacky Workbench. You're just bad.
If you have the decomps already then don't bother.
Well shit then
by the way is there some place i can read about the people working the decomps?
1 year or so ago i remember something about them incorporating hidden palace in an original way/final fever for sonic cd but have not seen/heard any progress
There's different teams for different games. Team Forever does 1 Forever and 2 Absolute. They're working on stuff for 2, but it's slow going because most of them are literal high school students and the oldgays don't want them to ruin their lives and burn out.
CD Restored is handled by the painfully autistic "PimpLuigi", who is so difficult to work with that no other mods are compatible with his anymore. This means you have to pick between his shit and the "& Knuckles" mod. It's a shitshow.
A.I.R.is handled by Eukaryot3K and other people. Just check their website and the various modding hubs.
The CD modding scene is a mess so I just have an old version of Restored that has both Amy and Knuckles and I'm not updating it anymore. It's good enough as it is right now anyway.
Pretty much, yeah.
My only beef with the fan ports is that I can't edit assets in S1F without fricking them up since they're in GIF format. I try to save adjustments and the image gets compressed.
I had that same problem with Mania mods, the only program I found that you can edit them in and not have them get fricked up is in GIMP.
I figured. I'll give it another shot and distribute my results if they work.
They fixed some things but ultimately no. Stick to the decomps. Origins is only for people too lazy or ignorant to setup the decomps.
It's a bigger file size with very few additions (better S3 Sonic and Super Sonic sprites).
Origins is already decent now because they fixed most of the issues it had except we're probably never getting a customization menu and they're never changing the muffled S3&K OST.
I suggest you sticking with the decomps for the definitive experience, but if you really want it on console, wait til it's on sale because it's not worth spending the $40
The way they "upscaled" Sonic CD's OP and ED should be a fricking crime and nobody talks about it for some reason.
Apparently they're also still not synced properly with the audio, even in Origins Plus.
I can deal with desynced audio far better than Sonic's legs changing color because the AI upscaler they used shat itself.
Either track down the cels and actually remaster it, get someone to re-ink ALL of the linework, or don't bother.
>still no chao garden
Come on SEGA.
naka worked on sonic 1's levels. you can tell these are ohshima's levels because they are all complete clusterfricks.
why does it sound like that?
Because that isn't the actual song, even the title calls it a remix
https://twitter.com/SlayerEphemeral/status/1685837555798081536?s=20
>shitty fan recreation based on non-direct audio video
Gee I wonder why
>Naoto Oshima is back working on level design
We don't even know this so far as I've seen.
I agree with the Mario Wonder point, though. That game has precedent of quality, consistency, an content behind it. Superstars is 12 Zones, so I question the value.
Oshima is back working on level design which means crappy Sonic 1 and CD tier levels
Considering those are the only good Sonic games this actually would be a positive, you dumbass.
I like the way it looks. If nothing else works out I think it's a visually appealing game. As immaculately soulful as Mania? Surely not, but totally fine for 2.5D.
CD level design is ludo, 1 is very good considering it's the first game in the entire series.
It'll probably just be mediocre like frontiers and not shitshow levels like forces
>I have never seen a more miserable fanbase blinded by nostalgia and copium
mariokeks pretending wonder is not a new super mario bros?
>Music is going to be more Genesis fart garbage by Jun Senoue.
Tee Lopes is also involved.
>Zone themes are uninspired trash.
Eh, we've barely seen them, they look ok.
>The new character Trip is overdesigned and forgettable.
I like it, even if I'm not in love with it.
>Naoto Oshima is back working on level design which means crappy Sonic 1 and CD tier levels.
Those games had good level design.
>Graphics look like ass and on par with Sonic 4, a fricking mobile shovelware title.
It looks much better than either episode of 4. Would've like some bolder stylization, but it's fine for what it is.
>Switch version in particular is mega ugly.
That sucks, I wanted it for Switch.
>Iizuka says pixel art is dead
Good, I like pixel art and grew up with it but move on and try something new. Again, could've been bolder though.
>Not even on Steam, Epic Games exclusive instead.
>Will have Denuvo DRM guaranteed at launch.
That sucks.
>Meanwhile all Sonicgays care about is if Fang is fricking playable.
I don't particularly care, but the game seems fun.
thoughts on her kit?
believe it or not i don't think she needs a double jump, the hammer spin does a lot on its own letting her bypass spiked enemies and hit bosses more easily (though it could deflect projectiles) and the hammer rush is basically a drop-peelout that puts her immediately into a running state if released soon enough, and can go into a full-on drop dash if released while holding down
I like the Advance and AIR movesets better.
which advance?
and which AIR mod?
What about her Mania moveset?
Compared to her Advance moveset it's extremely underwhelming and generic. I didn't like it at all in Origins, she was just a slower Sonic clone.
The one thing every Amy moveset should keep no matter what they change is the spring giving you extra height when hit with the hammer.
Does anyone have the "Origins Amy in Sonic 1 Forever' mod? I just want to import the ending art.