>sony: buckbroken
>xbox: going third party
>nintendo: emulated
PC won.
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>sony: buckbroken. >xbox: going third party. >nintendo: emulated
>sony: buckbroken
>xbox: going third party
>nintendo: emulated
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Gamers lost. Less competition means that things are becoming even more shit in the future
pc is a decentralized platform though ?
The decentralized platform where Steam is a monopoly lol
My GOG account says otherwise.
If by fine mean they are losing money yeah.
>using gog as a counter argument
I'm not playing some slop from the 90's bro sorry. I'm trying to 1cc radiant silvergun homie. Frick outta here with your gog ass acc homie lolemao
lmao not only is this a non-argument but the seethe from this post is palpable
>I'm not playing some slop from the 90's bro sorry
not an argument
You have no idea what a monopoly is
Nintendo will bring millions of Nintendo Accounts with them when they move from console to their own PC storefront in 2040
I think Nintendo will release their "Nintendo online" subscription service to PC and mobile and only release legacy retro games for it.
they got tons of sales and the platform itself is far ahead than any of the competition.
i don't know how big of a cut they charge developers but as far as consumers go steam is great for them.
i have like 100 games on GOG (granted a ton are free, but ive bought stuff too) and most of my friend's library comes from gamepass
Im not running everything through steam though.
Some games are standalone.
Others a launcher.
Some a store like EA and Epic.
And every single emulator is standalone, no need for steam.
get retroarch
Its faster to open the emulator exe and load a game with 2 clicks than opening retroarch.
Retroarch is only useful for Mobile devices.
i like it for all the extra features that standalone emulators lack. a few emulators starting adding said features after retroarch became popular for just having them, so maybe its not a big deal now for some of them
I have an easier time just running the game emulator .exe through wine then this shit.
I literally use the epic gog and microsoft's gamepass app, lol.
Steam wouldn't have a monopoly if all the other shitty publishers put more than 0.001% of the effort into their own launchers. EA app is objectively shittier than Origin was, and that was already pretty garbage. If those are the best they can be bothered with Steam deserves is market superdominance.
You don't get how businesses work. You gotta be there first, just look at iphones. It doesn't matter how great or better you make your phone when most people think iphones are better even if they're not.
steam has nonexistent marketing and is as good as everyone says, all the services are free and they get their money by making you like them by selling you discounted games and now their hardware
apple wouldn't exist without theirs and they rely on moronation and brand recognition to push locked down devices that only get used to make phone calls, send messages and browse the internet for 5x of what the competition sells them for
they're nowhere near the same
No. Anon is right. Valve does a lot right, even though they are far from perfect.
>steam restaurant opens up and serves people normal food
>other restaurants get jealous of steam's success and open their restaurants where they serve food laced with shit
>they go out of business
ABLOO ABLOO MONOPOLY AAAAAAAAAAA
i have pc games that don't have drm digital distribution shits attached to them like tumors.
man you'd be surprised. i pirate everything and some games just try to hammer you with analytics stuff and harvest your data. heres a screenshot from a jank indie game i enjoy, its unity and all games have this. i run a firewall so i never let stuff access the internet unless it needs it.
>i pirate everything and some games just try to hammer you with analytics stuff and harvest your data
>i run a firewall so i never let stuff access the internet
well, as long as you create an exception to the firewall, you will never have problems like that, in fact the ideal would be to do that with games that have been recently cracked, or games that don't have some kind of drm, like playstation ports that send telemetry even if you unselect that option
a tip for most people here, use the oneclickfirewall program, which saves you the trouble of creating firewall rules, and prevents any .exe from connecting to the internet
https://winaero.com/oneclickfirewall/
tinywall is all you need
i cant believe people actually dont run something like this, its baffeling
It is a monopoly. Anyone who says otherwise needs to show their Epic Games Library. Free games don't count. Surely you've spent money on a rival platform then?
That's not what a monopoly means, moron.
So you only use steam then. If no one uses the other stores they might as well not exist
Learn what a monopoly is before trying to continue this conversation.
If you lived in an area where there was one company who offered gigabit speeds and another who offered 50mbps for the same price which would you choose?
>Anyone who says otherwise needs to show their Epic Games Library. Free games don't count.
epic has no goodwill
no attempted steam competitor ever had
they all barged in seeking money in an environment where valve was beating them on not wringing people out
valve is the only company can sell games inside China independently while epic have to sell a big chunk of their shares to Tencent.
>Valve creates a game launcher that's basically an entire OS and loaded with social features
>Other publishers see this success and try to replicate it with 10% of the effort and features of Steam
>Cry "muh monopoly" when they don't get gorillions of dollars from their dogshit barebones launcher
>t. Valve wiener jockey
I pirate your wiener supplier's games.
A monopoly is ok when Steam does it, apparently
do you know what drm is? of course you don't, because you only play on consoles, that's why you say that shitty opinion
it's ok when steam does it chud
Steam is free.
Give me a console for free and I'll consider buying your games.
where did you get your CPU or GPU fro free?
I got my PC for other things as well. Games are just a part of what I use it for.
Buying a useless brick just to play games isn't worth it.
>I got my PC for other things as well.
unless you work with heavy rendering you don't need a strong GPU so you're still paying the extra price of a console right there
Heavy rendering industry doesn't use desktop GPUs.
I'm counting independent animators in heavy rendering. they do much more rendering than the average consumer
>all the seething v4lvedrones
lmao
If there's one thing I've learned in all these years is that it really IS okay when Valve and Valve dick suckers to do it. At this point, I believe that Valvies are the worst fanbase, worse than all 3 combined.
I've been advocating for people to pirate Steam games.
You do know cd key sites exist and I often use them to bypass Valve's gay regional pricing?
Ok and? You got some fat israelite's dick to continue slurping, get to it.
Concession accepted.
>hurr i'm so clever, i don't suck valves dick!
>proceeds to suck their dick
Concession of moronation accepted.
>n-no u
>anime reaction pic
Peak assblasted and destroyed. Thank you for proving my original point. Anything else?
>gets triggered by an anime pic
lmao just as planned
GOG exists buddy and does really well. I can make an account easily and is a solid competitor to Steam they allow more uncensored games than usual. There is even JASTUSA for hentai VN that blows Steam out of the water with ZERO DRM in a majority of releases.
>mcdonalds has a monopoly on food... becuase it's popular
based
GabeN knows best
it's gonna get real ugly when he's no longer in control
He kind of sucks anyways due to the approval process. It might be better when he leaves.
uhhh origin? Uplay? Microsoft store? Epic games store? Gog?
They hated him because he spoke the truth.
We'll have competition when Linux gaming is a thing.
Andrew "PC is our main competitor, not the Xbox" House, disagrees.
I miss that homie like you wouldn't believe.
Isn't this the opposite of less competition? When they're all competing on the same platform instead of having a pseudo-monopoly in their own gated garden they will actually have to outdo their competitors instead of just relying on brand name.
No.
When companies are competing for the market, it means they are making games to lure costumers into their own ecosystem, which should increase repertoire diversity among consoles.
Considering that Xbox had no exclusives and that Sony is now just remastering The Last Of Us again and again, this has become pointless.
>Gamers lost. Less competition means that things are becoming even more shit in the future
things cannot possibly become shittier than they already are
>things cannot possibly become shittier than they already are
This statement is always incorrect regardless of the context
>things cannot possibly become shittier than they already are
I think you'd be surprised
What's Brendan have to do with it?
>things cannot possibly become shittier than they already are
anon, you must not have lived very long if you haven't reached this realization; there is no such thing as "bottom of the barrel." it can always get worse. maybe it won't, but the possibility for the situation worsening is always a probability. the past decade has been a nonstop state of the gaming industry getting worse and worse. the only thing that's gotten bigger is the scale of corporate failures and trends.
Consoles are inherently anti-consumer and anti-competition. An open platform is the only way to truly compete.
Explain how it is anti-consumer without sounding like a poor.
If you have an IQ above 90 you wouldn't need an explanation, it should be obvious.
>he can't explain it
Okay poor.
only mexicans and turdworlders use consoles
whats your retort, brown.
is it true that gamers use GPU for decades
Anon, browns and hispanics use PCs exclusively. White men use consoles.
>white "men"
children
you mean children
anyone that calls themselves white while using a bootlicking device like a console is a subhuman
>fortnite
>minecraft
>open platform
>everything now runs through Nvidia
have you ever wondered why consoles use amd derived processors since the original xbox? they don't even try to touch it because it'd make them a monopoly, as if they already werent
wrong
consoles use amd because nvidia is an evil and manipulative company and they have fricked over everyone they've ever done business with
nintendo undoubtedly received a good deal on those tegras because no one else wants to touch them with a ten foot pole
Amd is hardware company, Sony and MS can make OS/drivers by themselves tp reduce costs.
NVDA is hardware/software company. So Nintendo can get a solution from them.
The first Xbox used an Nvidia GPU, Microsoft never used Nvidia ever again.
The PS3 used an Nvidia GPU, Sony never used Nvidia ever again.
Apple computers used Nvidia GPUs, they switched to AMD in 2013 until they went full in-house with the M1 in 2021.
Nvidia has tried to frick over every single partner they worked with. I wouldn't be THAT surprised if Switch 2 ends up using AMD hardware.
I wonder why Sony doesn't develop their own GPU/CPU for consoles?
Sony probably doesn't have the resources, it's not that big of a company, and gaming is not the only thing they do
because they'd be bad at it
look at intel's attempt at gpus and make it a dozen times worse
they don't have the capital to retread what others have already accomplished only to make some low tier cuckboxes
Making your own is really hard
developing chip is actual easier than you think. But there are a lot of existing infrastructure like compiler/OS can be leveraged if they just use x86. So big companies normally just use customized chip from AMD/intel/NVDA with undisclosed ISA/hardware accelerators while trim down a lot useless circuit for their tasks. This is why they can get chip cheaper than normal GPU on the market.
This is why they can get chip cheaper than normal GPU on the market.
they're cheaper because they're getting a bulk order on outdated hardware with nonexistent binning
>e leveraged if they ju
You have to look at their die size to understand this. small die size -> higher chip yield -> lower cost.
Waaay too expensive. And there's a good chance the product they come up with after five years of R&D is terrible compared to what Intel, AMD, Nvidia or Qualcomm can make.
Well, the leak from 2022 suggests they are going to use an Nvidia chip again. But:
1) This leak came from Nvidia, not Nintendo. For all we know they asked multiple companies to design a chip for their future console.
2) That leak is pretty old by now, and the Switch 2 is supposedly getting postponed more and more. This may be because Switch 1 keeps selling... but also because they are changing SoC manufacturer.
It's unlikely they'll switch (heh) to another company to be honest, someone would've leaked it by now. But as I said, I wouldn't be THAT surprised if Switch 2 ends up using AMD hardware.
nintendo's dementia ridden old guard probably doesn't even understand that they're being fricked over honestly
Damn, are Nvidia really such israelites?
yes
they're actively attempting to sabotage their gpu board partners now
their best one quit shortly before the 40 series released
they're the worst, but also make the best stuff. so you pay the tax
Yes, but unlike Intelaviv they didnt get complacent
i wasn't considering nintendo but i guess they should be even if its older phone hardware. the rest still stands for consoles like ps/xbox
AMD is the future by the sheer virtue of being only good on windows
windows is getting more pajeeted and less bearable every year while linux is constantly improving
eventually you'll only have consoomers left on windows while everyone with an ounce of a brain will have made the switch
sheer virtue of nvidia being good on windows*
>The company shrinking in market every day is actually the winner
Keep coping pajeet,
>everyone with an ounce of a brain will have made the switch
Unfortunately you just disqualified the vast majority of the population. The average person doesn't care and is completely ignorant of such things. They will roll with whichever corporation has the money to load up their OS on all the OEMs.
This is more competition and we get access to more games. You are a dimwit.
>access to more games
absolutely not. Exclusives have always been the most gen-defining games because console manufacturers wanted to market their consoles with them. Why would Sony make a racing game when they're getting Forza anyway? Why wouldnt MS put microtransactions on all their games when it wont affect console sales either way?
Exclusives have always been the most gen-defining games because fanboys slurp them up simply because they bought into that ecosystem. They're elevated and used as ammo for the hardware instead of standing on their own merits.
An open platform where games can compete equally is better for everyone except the suits trying to push locked down gimped hardware to take the games and their customers hostage.
>An open platform where games can compete equally is better for everyone except the suits
they're pushing this for a reason. Why spend a lot of money making and marketing a good game when they can have someone else make a shitty GaaS of which they'll get 30%? On top of that there's zero risk. As you said, fanboys will keep buying their favorite brand either way
Because if that gaas flops like suicide squad nobody is making anything. They all have a vested interest in the games succeeding.
Cope Snoy
If you were a real gamer you'd have a PC, consolenormie
what did your so called competition do for the consumer besides offer finicky ass games that the dev struggled to optimize for your moronic console's special snowflake architecture and games stuck on old ass consoles with shitty as resolution?
good. all other launchers suck ass. competition is overrated
>optimize for your moronic console's special snowflake architecture and games stuck on old ass consoles with shitty as resolution?
Free lunch from higher frequency is gone for many years.
Cheap meals from more cores is diminished because of power limit.
Programmers have to learn write some good code unfortunately it is hard.
>devs struggled
>it must be the console that's the problem
>Less competition
>Exclusives
These things have nothing in common. The eternal S*nypony cope.
>He thinks competition helped create amazing games and not that dev teams used to be full of people who wanted to create fun games as a passion, not as a job like these days
I'm almost impressed that someone can be this stupid
AAA crash is a powerful NEED
These companies are already rotten to the core
Hahahaha when you see this cope that means the brand is fricking DEAD
>things are becoming even more shit in the future
These companies are all going down with their new world order and wont exist in the future, we'll have new consoles that will play every game from every platform for a relatively small charge, just keep an eye on the banking system which is collapsing right now, once thats gone its all up hill from there.
if the GPU market hadn't shit the bed entirely, I'd agree.
You will buy Sony's new GPU in 5 to 10 years, and you will be happy.
>Crypto falls apart.
The GPU market is healing.
>AI 2D Images.
GPU price ticks up a bit.
>AI 3D video,
GPU prices Skyrockets,
I'm gonna be unemployed and not able to upgrade.
falls apart.
>The GPU market is healing.
BTC outperform SPY last year.
>responds to post about Crypto falling apart.
>BUT BTC IS WORTH LIKE 3/5th of what it did before the crash you wrong!
>every other coin
>every NFT
>every Web3 project dead.
>morons still think BTC is still an investment as they pray every day for WW3 and the world to collapse so they can hold onto a piece of code to trade in the apocalypse.
>Act smug about loosing tons of money year on end and praying for the world to collapse so i can feel i was not wrong on my "investment".
inb4 "i made money on BTC"
Gamblers can win once in awhile doesn't mean a gambling adict is an accountant with an ecconimics PHD.
>you can't make money on an asset that has consistently gone up in value over its lifespan
kek
>Less competition
They are still making games. The things that actually do the competing.
Sony have been following this strategy for 5 years already
Nothing new
Yeah, and in the same interview Yoshida also mentions that PlayStation platforms will remain the focus.
The expand part just means more releases on PC, mobile and cloud, but most probably first exclusive on PS.
Ubisoft made a launcher and failed.
EA made origin launcher and failed.
Epic made launcher and failed.
Xbox made launcher and failed.
Sony - I'm sure people would use another launcher on pc by us in order to play shitty movie games like soi of war.
Bravo sony, bravo. I applaud your bravery. Lets see how this pans out
Sony games are already on Steam. Are they really gonna use a laucnher?
Yes their releasing a launcher called PSPC which will have the sony movie games slightly cheaper than steam.
Seriously if I wanted to watch movies via a launcher I'd just use netflix
Big mistake
Nobody want yet another launcher.
Its fine if they want to sell their games directly cutting off fatman and his cut. But FFS stop trying to Steam 2.0 and make new launchers. Nobody fricking wants to install another launcher, Its negative value for consumer.
How it should be:
1. you download install file from the company's website.
2. click install. It installs the game. You get game icon.
3. You click game icon and launches game. Right fricking now! no launchers, no "register account" no other bullshit, Click icon get game.
(If you really need account for game register it on launch automatically, make random ID and random password, autofill them and launch game. Let player change them later from options if they want. But FFS not extra steps after clicking game icon. It should load straight into the game.
Yeah that sucks and still means psvr 2 users should just sell their PS5 and get a pc so they can do actual vr
this is fake. valve will not allow games on their store if they can be bought somewhere else cheaper. ill just assume everything else you say is fake and gay too
>cheaper than steam
>Sony undercutting themselves
BRAVO!
ebin and microsoft store are doing fine because of fortnite and game pass
>Doing fine
Bruh they've been consistently losing money each year.
Zoomers wont play fortnite forever in the same way they gave up on PLayer unknown battlegrounds
its 2024 and fortnite has been the biggest game in the world for 7 years and that probably isn't gonna change any time soon
you think this is why consoles are dying? Every game publisher thought they could just open up their own streaming service for games?
GOG is pretty limited in what it offers. You're either buying shit that's been out for 10 years on Steam, or some tallentless indie shit they're trying to push while good indie publishers like Chillasart only publish on Steam. GOG is more like Internet Archieve of video game but you have to pay to play.
It's getting so bad I only trust nintendo and capcom to actually make games that felt they were thoroughly play tested. Every western studio makes me feel I have to pay to be their guinea pig.
>Every game publisher thought they could just open up their own streaming service for games
Isn't only Microsoft doing that?
>GOG is pretty limited in what it offers
they offer Good Old Games, thats what i buy, not really interested on whether a game has DRM or not
I don't know what is going on in this image but I hope it makes somebody seethe.
>xbox is a conjoined twin now sicne microsoft is releasing everything on PC too
>sony started releasing a bunch of their exclusives on PC as well
>Nintendo doesn't release anything but it doesn't even matter since emulation is better than their own consoles
it's not that deep anon
Microsoft is PC. Of course they're going to release on Windows morons.
>Nintendo doesn't release anything
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nintendo_Switch-only_games
>170 pages
God I hope Switch 2 gets emulated as fast as Switch 1 did, I want to see tendies seething again.
God I hope Switch 2 will not have any nvidia/hardware frickup so it will be not emulable and see the pctards seething until the end of time
Keep dreaming tendie, no hardware is exploit prove.
you don't know even why switch is piratable didn't you pcsneed huh
I am a MVG enjoyer, so I know.
Will keep stealing all tendies games :^)
ok. I think I will screenshot and remember this post. just because.
Screencap it, Switch 2 will be based on an off the shelf Tegra SoC again, and it will be exploited again.
Every Nintendo console emulated during its production for nearly 30 years but surely this will be the one lol
proof** ESL-sama
but you're probably right, what matters is how long it'll take though
With backwards compatibility being a thing, chances are the hardware won't deviate too much. Still, i don't see emulation being a thing for atleast 2-3 years if even that. At the very least make sure to grab the first release of Switch 2 before any revisions and updates happen, as that always seems to be the first ones to be cracked open.
Imagine, if a piece of aluminum is all it took a second time.....
Nintendo will probably frick emulation over by including Denuvo
>wasting cpu cycles on a mobile device
oof, 30% less performance on the Switch 2 incoming.
They are not implementing Denuvo because of emulation, they are doing it because Switch game piracy is rampant in China and Latin America, if you buy a Switch in the second hand market of China, it will most likely come modded to play backup games.
You could be right
But Denuvo's sales pitched directly addressed emulation
i love how everything mentioned benefits consumers
>THEY ARE OFFERING A BETTER SERVICE @FBI @CIA @NintendoAmerica DO SOMETHING
Benefits to casuals maybe
not paying for games is a benefit for poorgays but leads to even more GAAS shit being made
>listening benefits
this is so spiteful holy shit
>fans of your games will play them at higher quality and for free!
>solution? don't sell games for that platform even though they're all already developed there and it would take minimal effort to do so
>instead lock them down and make them harder to run and punish your existing customers because you really want to sell hardware don't you
This part is also funny:
>Nintendo!! Emulation is a THREAT to you BUSINESS.
>Yuzu, the most well-know Switch emulator, makes a grand total of... €17000 per month!!!
Wow, what an impressive number.
>All these benefits
>b-but yuzu devs! they wuz making money!
>be poorgay thirdworlder
>save enough to get a semi-modern platform only to find its modded and you can load all sorts of shit on to it
that must be like christmas
Don't mind me Nintendo, just PIRATING your console, heh
"NINTENDO PLS NOTICE US AND BUY OUR DRM SUBSCRIPTION!"
>can't wait for the switch 2 and new games
>calls others tendies
I have some bad new for you
these images all imply video games have some kind of lasting value but that obviously isn't true.
a game only matters the first week it releases after that it's wet newspaper.
I disagree with your consoomer mindset
Xchad here. Weird picture. We don't nor have we ever given a flying frick what anyone does, including xbox games going to pc. Exclusivity only matters to weirdos like snoys and tendies. We buy the SeX for convenience, nothing else. Long as we're playing games, We ballin.
I'm going to hang a picture of TB on my wall unironically
>We take what we want
AFTER WE TAKE LEX LUGER AND THE GIANT, WE WANT THE GOLD, SUCKA
Yet youll never play bloodborne
I accept the sacrifice, to have all the other PS5 games that exist, and also on day one, I will not have to force me to buy a console, thanks sony
1 (one) game.
>sony: buckbroken but still able to play the best games every year
>xbox: going third party but still able to play the best games every year
>nintendo: no more home consoles, going full mobile in a near future
Just port Bloodborne, it's the only one anyone remotely gives a damn about
bluepoint remake for ps6
They won't release bloodborne, will they.
Pretty sure Bloodborne is in licensing hell
What licensing? Sony owns the IP and can do whatever they want with it.
Source code is gone
How would they lose that and not the source code for older Demon's Souls that Bluepoint used in the remake? A disgruntled employee took the backups and destroyed them?
>The source code for the international justice courts is gone, but it said the Gews could do what they wanted in the middle yeast in line: 12029 of its act
Bloodborne on PS4 wasn't really super popular among normalgays. It sold "only" few million copies. That being said the post-release word of mouth and it's loud fanbase would probably easily make it sell way more on PC.
>Bloodborne on PS4 wasn't really super popular among normalgays. It sold "only" few million copies.
Sold more than Days Gone, Death Stranding, Ratchet and Clank games, Sackboy and Until Dawn.
at what point do you gays realize you're better off waiting for the PS4 to be emulatable than asking Sony about Bloodborne
Most people don't understand how any of this work. Also cheevgays will be b***hing even during the end of days that they can't get their games the way they want them.
It was borderline investor fraud that Sony didn't release a bloodborne port during covid, would have flipped like 10 million sales for nothing. Now people hardly care anymore and it'll sell a couple of million copies and need a better port budget
>doesn't have 200$ to buy a used Playstation 4
why would Sony put that out when BB is still making them money?
if they port it to PC it will just get pirated mostly
>if they port it to PC it will just get pirated mostly
Funny that snoys keep saying this, even after Helldivers 2 on PC outsold the PS5 version.
>FOTM Gaas game
PC was the best selling platform for Elden Ring in Europe.
Not only that buy GoW 2018 and Horizon also sold a shit ton on PC
Don't Sony single player games sell like shit on PC compared to their Playstation versions?
Compared to the console version, yes. But they still sell a few million copies, it's not like they are massive flops. I don't know how much these ports cost to make, but Sony is definitely making money. Horizon sold like 3-4m, GoW like 2-3m.
*that but
Remaster for ps6 launch
The studio that made bloodborne got shut down along with the source code.
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FPPS4 has Bloodborne able to boot on 30fps but it's on a black screen. It's early days but we will get it within the next year.
That's fricking neato. God I love PC. I just started getting Wii/U recently cause I got hardware that can emulate those now.
i feel bloodborne actually being playable by the mass majority market will break the spell because it ain't that great, the setting is dynamite but the game is a worse dark souls 3
I still dont understand what does sony mean by "the cloud".
what cloud shit does sony even have?
playstation now doesnt count because its using microsoft azure servers.
PS+ Premium streaming, I guess?
Although I'm assuming that also uses Azure.
so sony has finally cracked the internets slow speed and everyone on the globe has super speed internet?
most of europe has superfast speeds.
Why it wouldn't count? They operate and get revenue from the service, regardless of who provides the infrastructure.
Also, SIE has been using Kubernetes and Amazon’s AWS. People keep bringing the Sony x MS announcement, but that was a memorandum of understanding (nothing definitive), and possibly related to other Sony companies aside from SIE: https://www.theverge.com/23677968/sony-cloud-gaming-playstation-now-jobs-patents
SONY IS DROPPING OUT OF THE CONSOLE RACE
>SONY IS DROPPING OUT OF THE CONSOLE RACE
SONY IS DROPPING OUT OF THE CONSOLE RACE
>SONY IS DROPPING OUT OF THE CONSOLE RACE
2 more weeks
>more expensive than ever
>every game exclusive to a DRM platform
>said platforms now demand OS updates
>more invasive DRM on top of that
>half of games are releasing as unfinished WIP "early access"
>strategy games on life support
>modding in bad shape
Y-yeah I'm loving it. Great time for PC games
It’s a horrible time for games overall. We need another crash to reset the industry.
That won't stop Denuvo, you know?
New games would be bad regardless of all your points. PC is great because of its multi-decade library, plus the libraries of pretty much every console prior to last-gen. Why the frick would I need to play anything from the last 5 years?
Lol that's only of your still being a aaaslop pay piggy. Theres so much else better to play my backlog grows daily
It was in worse shape ten years ago but I still agree
How hard would it be if say Sony made a side grade Console?
>Playstation ALL
>Plays any Playstation game ever
>online store have ridicoulsly low prices
>$1 ps1 $5 PS2 $10 ps3
Fund it
I could see myself buying that console but the sony execs are moronic so it'll never happen.
Imagine if Nintendo also made one with all of the game ports and used current technology to cram physical implementations of the hardware so that you could just plug in and play NES games, SNES games, Gameboy games, etc.
The idea sounds fricking amazing for a consumer, but a logistical/copyright nightmare to pull off for sony. And knowing sony, it's all about the announcement but next to no effort being put into it. You're better off emulating all that stuff. or buy the respective consoles and hacking them, im still got my PS4 Pro in the box with a low enough firmware, still hoping for a cold boot option in the future.
They can't even make the PS1 classic mini right. I wouldn't trust it to run any PlayStation game
you quite literally can't play PS3 games without having a built in PS3 in there because of the moronic architecture of the cell. do you understand how nightmarish is to have not only one architecture but two inside of a console not only for the internal design/cooling of that thing but also to the price
>nintendo: emulated
kek, as if that has any effect on their bottom line. look at all the homies who never emulated mother 3's translation in the ~15 years they've had it available to them. go on archiverse (miiverse archive) and look at all the people who genuinely had never played earthbound before it was made available on the wii u.
It's just proof that PC has no games because they need to steal them from Nintendo
...but if you just mean "pc can do everything nintendo can" then yes, you are correct.
It stopped being a competition in 2009, when Steam was picking up and PC ports were getting better. Piracy was easier than ever, second rise of the indie games scene, mods, fangames and romhacks getting popular etc.
All of the subsequent generations of consoles never managed to keep up with the advantages offered by PC gaming. I mean, why would you play multiplats on limited chink laptops (PS4, PS5, Xbox One and Series X) just because they're branded with the Microsoft or Sony company names? The few exclusives they had played like shit (Halo a fricking shooter on console kek) or were moviegames, save for exceptions like Bloodborne. To make things worse, it made you feel like the exclusives were stuck on weak hardware for no practical reason other than corporate greed and anti-consumer deals to force you into buying a specific console. Imagine if RDR2 was stuck on Playstation and Xbox.
Nintendo at the very least made the right decision and focused on portability and fun games, instead of participating in the hardware/graphics race of home consoles knowing they could never compete against desktops in the first place. That's why the switch sells and has a relevant niche to fill. To make it better, their exclusives are easy to emulate and improve with mods thanks to hobbyists, so PC really is reaping all of the benefits.
>anon keeps seething about Tendies entire first half of the thread
>second half has his supposed idea of a Tendie appear for an argument
Was the image in right? Feels like the same guy who shits up FF threads.
if you say anything negative about a game that happens to not be associated with Nintendo here there's always some dickhead frothing at the mouth about how only tendies could possibly think it isn't perfect. I'm so fricking sick of these non-game playing schizophrenics appropriating threads about threads about basically every notable multiplatform release for their console war-baiting bullshit, especially posts like
who do the exact same thing they're complaining about in the same breath.
if tendies weren't schizo losers with NO GAMES to play, they wouldn't spend all their time baiting the rest of the gaming community.
name one thing bad about more games coming out on multiple platforms
Nintendo was smart to recognize that seeking to produce the best graphics is a foolish move that ends in high costs, years and years of time, and very little returns to justify it.
Sony and Microsoft should have come to the same conclusion after the success of games like Minecraft, Overwatch, and Fortnite. BUT somehow they didn't.
The graphics "race" was basically an investor scam
>windows 12 with drm and subscription services
>hardware compliance will be enforced just like it has the last 30 years
You will all fall into the trap and like it.
but muh leeeenix will save us!
Are you a kernelet?
High IQ people have all already switched to Linux (or as I like to call it, GNU/Linux). It's free, you have full control, it can do things windows can't, FOSS has caught up with every paid program you could need for personal use.
Who the frick wants to pay a giant company hundreds of dollars to have your computer nag you about restarting for updates you don't even want? For an operating system that shows you ads of all things?
>"high iq"
>can't even figure out how to pirate and debloat windows
embarrassing
I did that up through 7, and for what? It never ends anon. You only have to learn how to use GNU/Linux once, just like you had to learn how to use windows once. It's not hard if you're not stupid.
>Ganker is always talking about Nintendo games
>Ganker end up emulating them anyway
Why are Ganker posters so tsundere about nNntendo?
Steam Deck and Nintendo Switch broke the game industry. It proved that you don't need $70 titles or $500 base price machines to have fun or play old games.
Palworld and Helldivers 2 prove games do not need to be 70$ to be a great experience. Both are 40$
I will keep playing on my PS5, frick gaming on a fricking desk.
>inb4
>But you can plug a PC to a TV
Don't even respond with that incel autist shit.
PC did win but consoles aren’t going anywhere, unless Microsoft released a TV and controller friendly OS/boot mode, then there might be a real shakeup.
>RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE
The messiah is returning, brothers
crazy that they're still irrelevant to this day.
PC lost, your exclusives get ported now too.
Good, have fun. Map painting simulators are neat if you've got the right kind of 'tism for it.
If it means more players, I'm fine with it. I wish RTS games were ported to consoles more, so it wasn't a near dead genre.
I would like more MMORPGs on consoles.
i dont think consoles can even run CS2
They can, but playing with controller is weird. Still, suprised thst Valve didn't jump on it considering that they love lootboxes so much.
lmao try running stellaris on a PS5.
Already been done.
Paradox map painter trash is heavily CPU-demanding so enjoy playing Stellaris and EU4 at snailpace on your Sony and MS boxes. Consoles generally focus on GPU and cheap out on the CPU
under your logic, playstation also lost, didn't it?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2172010/Until_Dawn/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2420110/Horizon_Forbidden_West_Complete_Edition/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1895880/Ratchet__Clank_Rift_Apart/
you don't realize that sony wants to expand its market, and just like microsoft, it will make less sense to keep its games on a single platform
>Clausewitz engine games dancing on one PS5 core
lol
have fun consoleros
>PC lost
>implying eternal port beggars ever won anything
Phil Spencer port begging for Helldivers 2 on Xbox Series is proof that they really are dissolving and moving everything to PC
companies are noticing that the bulk of the consumers are on playstation
Huh, how come they all are crawling back to PC after spending last decade touting that PC was "dead"?
>last decade
When did they ever stop
feels good not being a poor Black person troony
is poor even an excuse anymore?
the Steam Deck is a more than capable PC and is dirt cheap
and as long as your craptop runs windows 10 or linux you have a shitton of games on steam to play, older games and indies, i should know i build a shitty desktop for my old sis, so she and my 2 other siblings can play games together, we have gotten a good mileage out of that dino
the only real barrier of entry in knowledge, windows and specially linux require a lot of tinkering once things start breaking
>linux require a lot of tinkering once things start breaking
good luck finding a graphics card that'll behave well with linux. And god forbid you let a graphics card company know you are ruining linux, even though you run their proprietary drivers.
westerns are finding this concept revolutionary. "You mean I can buy a console that comes WITH games?"
then you b***h and cry when emuparadise gets shut down.
Most PC fats are poor though. All you need for a top-end PC is not-shit credit.
Literally everyone offers 24 month financing now. And if you do have shit credit you can still get financing but just pay an extra $10/mo with apr.
i can emulate any switch game and dont because this is the most dog shit games list i have ever seen on a platform
But PC isn't a company.
But where's Unicorn Overlord?
Emulated 😉
And all it took was working hard at doing nothing.
Based
Helldivers 2 must have opened rheir eyes. Steam alone dwarfs PS5 userbase.
>Helldivers 2 has sold over 60% of its copies on PC so far, as claimed by the insider Christopher Dring
Interesting, we probably will see more same day releases for pc
They already announced all the live service games will come to PC last year. They'll likely start doing day and date on the big single player games starting with Death Stranding 2 next year.
And as a steam user I desperately wish the servers weren't sony exclusive.
>opened their eyes
Anon, they said that they will release Gaas games at the same time a while ago.
I wasnt thinking about gaas games. Im thinking about singleplayer games. They release a gaas game day abd date, and then make a statement about wanting to go all in even more on PC releases. They must have realized the money left on the table. Most sales come from opening week, where there's marketing and hype.
Anon, Totoki was talking about increasing their Playstation profit margins by using the PC and mobile audience. Sony still has 6 gaas games in development. They will all be released at the same time. Besides, Totoki is only a interim CEO of Playstation. He is here until someone else is found.
They already release games on PC and gaas games day and date. Its very obvious that that statement comes now, where they can see the effect of sales da and date.
They will increase those margins by releasing singleplayer games aswell day and date, where the majority of copies are sold. Totoki being interim actually shows you that this is the will of both investors and SIE.
Dev cost is too high, and from the investor call we know Sony wants to continue releasing their cinematic 3rd person AAA 100million + dollar budget games, but profit from PS users alone is not enough anymore. And while PC market continues to grow and grow, console share stagnates.
Anon, single-player Sony games sell like shit on PC.
You can stay in denial if you want.
How do they give up on the console market by releasing day and date on PC? Its gonna happen but they will still sell consoles.
>Spiderman 1 sold only 2-2.5 million on PC
>d-d-d-denial
>Sony will give up on consoles, but they won't
Huh?
Did they give up on consoles when they started porting to PC? No.
As for your argument being low sales,
and thats with no marketing and outside the original release window, where most sales are made. Also pure sales, not like Sony who love to inclunde bundled copies in their sales report.
Again, how will that make Sony give up on console hardware? PS5 as a hardware unit has been profitable since 2021. Do you really think that Sony will will simply throw away the revenue from almost 50 million ps plus suscribers?
Anon, you said they give up on console market, not me.
You remind me of the denial few years back about PS porting their games to PC in the first place, with the exactly same arguments.
>why would they give up on units sold through console
By coming to the realisation that 125 million Steam users were not going to buy a PS5 anyways. Its simply too much money to ignore. And most sales happen during the original release, alongside marketing. As we can now see thanks to Helldivers 2. Besides, Sony will not lose too much console users with this. The average PS user only buys a PS5 for FIFA and CoD, anyway, and will not move to PC gaming because of day and date releases on PC.
Anon, Sony games on PC simply sell less than their console versions.
Helldivers 2 sold more on Steam than on console. A game that released day and date snd carried marketing to PC aswell. You can stay in denial about this happening, same as people where in denial about PS games coming to PC in the first place.
>Helldivers 2
https://steamdb.info/app/553850/
because steam price is below greedy sony.
low price in china -> biggest concurrent players on steam -> huge success on /v
Xi always wins and Chinese enjoy deflation
>Gaas fotm game
>cheaper on Steam
Kek. Apples and oranges.
I love Snoys being in denial, was the same fun in 2021 kek
>no argument
Yup.
How does that equate them to giving up on console market?
>Anon, they said that they will release Gaas games at the same time a while ago.
Meanwhile, Square are the dip shits who made their GAAS game exclusive to Sony's platform, when not even Sony does that them self.
Kek, it almost seems like they are being set up by Sony for a cheap buyout. Square is fricked.
Square's leadership still thinks it's 2002.
Couldn't imagine being a PC-only homosexual in the year of our lord 2024
We are not missing a single worthwhile game :^)
I would still buy consoles but...
Sony killed all their good game studios to release slop, promotes censorship and low quality games, also you have to pay for online.
Xbox is just a worse locked down PC, have to pay for online.
Nintendo quality hit rock bottom and they are still trying to make even worse stuff, also they included planned obsolescence they never fixed (Joycon drift, PI3USB, etc), also the console has shit hardware specs since they are using a 2014 SoC from Nvidia they got for cheap because they couldn't sell it so Emulation makes all games look perfect, also they charge for online.
And then there is the problem where i don't get to keep my games.
PC is just better, cheaper and comfier in every way possible.
Name a game worth playing thats not on PC
Splatoon.
Anon clearly stated "not on PC"
>pcgays are black
Funny.
>newbies don't even know gigachad
Grim
Can you play the next Splatfest on your PC? Didn't think so.
>inb4 fox and grapes.
You can't play online games that need dedicated servers in an emulator.
That is one thing I wish Emulators would focus on more is Multiplayer/Server support in an Open Source fashion.
What would it take from Nintendo to port Splatoon over to PC? Do they not realize how much money and costumers they are missing out on?
How? It's basically the opposite. Consoles are literally just shitty locked down PCs at this point. They made sense when you could just throw in a disk and play a game, but now you have to install the game to the SSD and download updates and pay to play online with no way around it. Now they have muh performance mode so you can't even been assured it will run well and not look like shit. Consoles are now the same shit as a PC but locked down. Complete waste of money.
On PS5, the data is still on the disc.
You still have to install it to the SSD... which is slower than just downloading a game from Steam. Modern internet is faster than a blu-ray disk.
>which is slower than just downloading a game from Steam
theoretically speaking. if someone in your home are watching Netflix, you probably . oh. fricking. You are living alone.
How shit is your internet that it throttles with someone watching netflix?
The game is fully on the disk, you do not need internet. It takes time for the game to copy itself to the storage, but no internet is needed.
no shit, but copying from the disk is slow as frick. Slower than the internet
can't imagine owning a console in the year of our lord 2024
what could your reasons possibly be
>bing bing wahoo!
emulate it
>i want to play snoy games about how good trannies are
mental illness
the console deal has never been worse, they have no perks to speak of besides lower upfront cost which gets fricked by subscription nickel and diming, more expensive games and the shitty performance you can't change
PC won not because of its qualities but because the industry is worse than ever
>releasing even more Sony's Gaas slop for PCbrowns to coonsooom
Maybe tendies were right.
tendies are angry midgets with no games to play so their past time is sowing discord among everyone else
games releasing on multiple platforms is not a bad thing for anyone
At least nintendo is not dropping out of the console race like Sony and Microsoft.
>dropping out
>Microsoft has announced that they don't plan to stop producing hardware
>Sony already having plans for PS5 Pro and PS6
Huh?
He is a trooncord tendie, just ignore
Cope. They'll be making PC-little with no exclusives at all.
And? Nintendo doesn't have exclusives either :^)
>I-I-I d-don-don't want your Switch!
>B-b-b-but I'm desperate to emulate their games
Tell me more how you are a criminal
I don't want a Switch because it runs games like shit, simple as, tendie.
Still emulating Nintendo's good games.
They are still Nintendo exclusives. You can't legally play them on PC. You are breaking the law. It does not count.
Emulating itself isn't ilegal tendie.
Acquiring the rooms to play is illegal. You act like a Black person.
> Only illegal if its wholly illegal in your country.
> Only illegal if you sell it and stream it without owning a physical copy.
> Only illegal if you don't use it for your own entertainment purposes only.
Few caveats.
Nice rationalization of your crimes, Black person. You are the pure image of a dindu.
You are talking about legality, not morality or ethics.
Cringe.
Yeah, that's is illegal, but I don't care.
Want my money? Release the game on PC, simple as.
Tendies being fricking moralgays, lol
You can stick your money up your ass. You weren't going to buy it anyway, even if ported. You'll just pirate it. Go sell your bullshit somewhere else, you amoral Black person.
Have 203 games on Steam plus 62 on GoG.
I am not a pirate of PC games.
Again, want my money? Release the game on PC.
Nintendo is happy with our money. Nintendo survived the first video game crash doing exactly what they are doing now. Having good exclusives. Nintendo will never port their exclusives. You can either deal with it or buy a Switch, but you don't really want to play Nintendo games so you won't. If you really like Nintendo then put your money where your mouth is and buy Nintendo, or shut the frick up.
>Nintendo will never port their exclusives. You can either deal with it or buy a Switch
Or he could just emulate them a week early at better fps and resolution
I will just emulated their games then ¯_(ツ)_/¯
>out money
lol
Not the point, morons. My point is that you are a bunch of amoral Black folk that were never going to buy it anyway.
Black person, you are pathetic and I am a Sonygay. Moralgayging about video games is moronic.
I'm just telling it how it is. Truth hurts, eh?
>Showed proof that I have 265 legitimate purchased games across two PC platforms
>you thieving Black person!
180US$ Nintendo could have made ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Really enjoying TOTK at 4K 60fps
>180US$
How no! 180 out of millions! You are the rare whale. Actually, how many games were bought in sales? Your library number means shit. Nintendo earns more money this way. You are not Nintendo target audience.
>Called me a Black person pirate
Showed proof that I am not a PC pirate and I buy games.
>Your sales wouldn't matter anyway!
Moving the goalposts like always, tendie.
Can't wait for Switch 2 emulation :^)
I don't give two shits. Your existence does not alter anything. Nintendo will move on without you, as it has always done. Have fun playing Nintendo games. The only console worth emulating.
Concession accepted, tendie.
I'm actually an Idort making fun of you PCtard. I have a PC and a Switch.
>I was just pretending
Sure thing tendie, go back to Discord now.
I dont emulate tendie games because they're all shit
>Nintendo survived the first video game crash doing exactly what they are doing now.
Black person, the NES came after the game industry crash of 1983.
They even called the NES "Nintendo ENTERTAINMENT system" to ease Western consumers' minds into giving video games a chance.
isn't the famicom from 83?
>I don't want to pay for something that I can get for free, as well as perform better
You=mad
they have no reason to. having a cheapish console with nothing but pokemon games is making bank for them. neither ps or xbox are going to stop making things, it just seems like a universal agreement to stop with the exclusive shit. and i bet that was more of a business decision than anything - exclusives no longer sell platforms like they did back in the ps2/dreamcast/xbox gen. i just dont see how its a negative for anyone especially gamers
Anon, Playstation has literally proven that they will sell them same without exclusives. Sony's PC and console crowd don't overlap. If anything, Sony is simply going to get more money to develop more Playstations.
>sega trannies
Btfo
>pedtendo trannies
Btfo
>snoytrannies
Btfo
>handheld trannies
Btfo
>pc chads
Won
Cannot wait for Sony to release more Gass shit because PCgays slurped Helldivers 2.
lol tendie you mad?
PC won, simple as.
>my PS5
White.
>my hand
White.
>gaming time
Yup.
>my ps5
I don't have one because it's shit.
>my hand.
Brown.
>Your mom.
On my dick.
>my hand
>white
>admitting that they are brown
Yup. White consoleGOD marches on. See ya browns.
>PS5
Heavy Black person population
>PC out of nowhere
still waiting for bloodborne, will never buy a console in my entire life ever again
>emulating every console up to Wii on my series X that I paid for 350$
>also backwards compatible with Xbox, 360 and One
SOVL console. Microsoft should just ship Xboxes with windows.
I am waiting for the rumored new Sony handheld, that will apparently play PS4, PS5 games and will launch alongside PS6. If it is the size of PSP, it will be SOVL.
this is unicorn thinking. in reality even if a ps5 game would run, it'd be at 5fps and drain the battery in 20 minutes. if they went with something capable of playing ps1-4 AND made all the titles easily accessible, that would sell good
i dunno why they all seem to ignore the backwards emulation so bad
I just need it to be PS vita sized. Homebrew will take care of everything else.
homebrew is the most untouched aspect of all consoles that would sell like hotcakes
I played a few rounds of Helldivers 2. I was on PS5, crossplay enabled, it was rather fun.
I don't think people realize how bad a state gaming is in when THIS is what it looks like to be on the winning team in the 9th generation.
This is fricking grim shit. Sony is winning and this is their strategy. This is the WINNING strategy in 2024. Compare that to the ps2 or even ps3 and 4. Jesus fricking christ
Jimbo fricked up. Don't worry, Totoki is only interim CEO until someone else is found. You cannot go worse than Jimbo.
the state of gaming has nothing to do with the sales. sales are at all time highs. there is more money floating around in gaming atm than any time ever. markets have shifted and exclusives are no longer a selling point. gacha coomer games might be the rage now, but aren't a good long term investment when you spend 500m and it bombs.
i get more fun out of indie jank games that'll never be finished than i do aaa games. once all this homosexual DEI stuff collapses and 95% of studios go under, they can start to rebuild and get back to making games. accelerate
>our money
Tendies are funny.
Why does this tendie sound like a cultist?
Because they are, have you seen all those threads shitting on Dragons Dogma 2 and FF7R? They are made by bunch of Discord tendies mad those games won't run on their shitty 2016 Android tablet.
>pc continues to get flooded with consolegays
>real pc games continue to become irrelevant
>big budget pc games disappear entirely
The homogenization that Sony and MS are causing is objectively bad. Console games should stay on console.
>>big budget pc games disappear entirely
the loss of hugely ambitious projects like crysis is absolutely detrimental. the truth is its been this way for a long time though. crysis was the last one?
I guess you could count Cyberpunk
i wont even touch it. they released it right before christmas in a totally broken unfinished state, all to capitalize on sales. i enjoyed the witcher games but that was enough for me to say i'll never touch one of their games again.
is it actually on the level that crysis was? when i last looked, cops still spawned right next to you, basic gameplay was very broken and it didn't appear to be visually amazing. it wasn't bad looking either though
I thought you were on about pushing the graphical boundaries as thats really what Crisis was known for.
>and it didn't appear to be visually amazing. it wasn't bad looking either though
If you use the latest nvidia slopnology is does look great, probably the best looking game i've seen within the city.
i was at first. i cant think of anything since crysis that attempted to push every bit of tech to its limit. gaming has seemingly settled down on graphics and stuff and even now its fricking ugly. splotchy acne looking shadows over rocks that look wet for some reason.
i remember when death stranding came out and one of the things was this motorcycle, so i asked to see what the motorcycle looked like as it ran over this giant map of rocks and it was no different than adding carts to skyrim and all the physics were fricked. there has been very little actual development in games on every scale for over a decade now. so yeah games like crysis used to give me hope even if they were a tech demo more than anything, at least it wasn't settling for what garbage we have now and they tried
>splotchy acne looking shadows over rocks that look wet for some reason
UE5 having the realistic shit makes it so shit game devs can make "realistic" graphics without knowing a thing about shit. Its why they always force on TAA without realising it makes games look like shit. Its also why they run like shit as well.
So at the moment the pinnacle of pushing games forward is the software side at nvidia and the very few engineers working on path tracing at CDPR
its not even realistic though. the awful shadows we're used to now look nothing like real shadows. hell you could just call them gaming shadows at this point because its so common. i hate it and find older games especially the ones with their own art design limited by only the hardware its on, to be way more visually appealing
Thats what I mean with the ones pushing forward are a tiny minority. Path tracing actually looks fantastic but not everyone has $2000 gpus, so the easiest way to go is with the built in UE5 shadows that look like shit and are affected by TAA.
UE5 provides an easy way for shit devs to go "WOAHHH LOOK AT MY REALISTIC GRAPHICS AND THE 100,000 TREES RENDERED IN" which is why theres so much un-optimised shit, because they dont know about optimasation or how to make an art style beyond ultra 4kHDSSDRTX graphics baked in.
spending a shitload of money on a game just to keep it exclusive to one platform was always dumb. pc games getting console ports is nothing new, was even common in the 90s
>pc games getting console ports is nothing new, was even common in the 90s
i've always preferred pc but consoles used to have a lot of games that made me buy them. that ended after the ps2-dreamcast-xbox era because pc finally started getting ports of niche stuff like dynasty warriors. so around 2006-8 is when pc started finally getting most of the ports, and its only accelerated since
yeah and that's a good thing, consoles would get ports of popular pc games so it only makes sense that pc gets console games.
>yeah and that's a good thing
no complaints here. i have no idea why anyone thinks more games on more platforms is a bad thing. they must be that addicted to one platform
Team Fortress 2 would be fun on consoles.
You had your time to play TF2 on PS3 and Xboxes (360 BC title)
>Gabe stopped updating it
Man....
Microsoft didn't allow free DLCs.
While PS3 version was ported by EA, and it wasn't even the gold build of the game lmao
Shame, the game is fun. Would love to play it on PS5.
>blaming Sony who spent less than 4 billion and only bought Bungie for Gaas games
Microsoft opened the floodgates. The moment they bought Zenimax and Activision Blizzard for 80 billion, it was over.
Both companies made the choice to move to x86 based consoles ten years ago, that opened the floodgates.
>emulated
but you don't even own a PC
The writing has been on the wall about the eventual obsolescence of "high-end" consoles for a very long time but the amount of self-sabotage that led both companies to this point this fast has been bizarre to watch. Sony especially should have known better.
I feel like consoles could have easily kept on going if only they didn't try to maintain this unsustainable AAA gaming ecosystem where every game costs as much (or sometimes even more than) big Hollywood blockbuster movies and, instead, opted for a more AA model where their output is more these mid-budget AA games like Lies of P, Evil West, Hi Fi Rush, Remnant 2 and so on.
Regardless of what you think about the quality of these AA games, you can't deny that they would make for the basis of a much more sustainable business model than having all your eggs in one AAA basket.
I would have to agree with you. These AAAA spectacle games aren't even that good compared to the "smaller" games. Maybe because those smaller games are left to just make a decent game and not be the next big breakout 10 billion sales game. Not really into most Nintendo first party titles but I do appreciate all the smaller scale experimental things they do compared to XBOX and SONY that seem to feel a need to make massive breakout billion dollar franchises out of every game or consider it a complete failure not worth touching.
I can agree. Nintendo does a great job of offering support to Indie Studios and actually hosts a Indie Showcase and Partner Showcase for AA and Indie titles respectively. I also like AA games a ton because I like medium companies that try new weird things. Also on Steam itself they do host tons of small and medium sized titles and try to promote them constantly on the front page for everyone to find what they like. Xbox and Sony pretend to care and are competing in a graphics and budget measuring contest that they forgot Steam and Nintendo exist. They are eating the marketshare without doing much else other than focusing on the games.
And the sad part is, the AA games end up having better spectacles than the AAA/AAAA games.
It's not much different to how Godzilla Minus One ends up being 1 billion times better than just about every major blockbuster from 2023 despite only costing 15 million dollars to make compared to the 100/200 million dollar bloated atrocities churned out by Marvel, Pixar and the like.
Blame Jim Ryan for that. He decided to kill AA and Indies that made games for fun and passion that were not expensive and go all in on blockbuster overly expensive movie titles that cost about 5-7 million sales to make back. Also reminder he killed off Japan Studios and the former employees are in TVT now.
This tendie meltdown is hilarious, enjoy Denuvo tanking the fps of your console that's already weaker than a fricking mobile phone
I've never paid for a single PC game.
Only chuds never save their money to buy the best gpus.
Good grief twitter screencaps are already bad enough but is there a reason why people keep screencapping tweets from this disingenuous Russian moron?
Will Microsoft release WoW on Xbox?
Shame Factions was cancelled. Factions on PS3/4 was amazing to play.
>xbox: going third party
>said they're giving 3 exclusives, of which are old and 1 was never intended to be exclusive
>said explicitly that this is not indicative of any plans for the future and they will focus on making Xbox as a brand stronger
it's so tiresome
I don't really mind Sony porting their games to PC, especially gaas games. Playing with PC players wasn't so bad.
As always, my primary used systems are PC and nintendos console
It was the cae during wii u era and will continue past switch era
I am purely Playstation. Still enjoyable.
they havent been expanding shit, they are afraid of Steam and Microsoft so they'll only throw steam literal shit crumbs
Black person, Sony can't compete with Microsoft on PC. Microsoft is PC.
nta but from a gaming perspective steam might as well be pc. ms doesn't make a dime from games that run on it while steam rakes in a percentage of everything on it
Doesn't mean anything. MS had been treating its own platform like a leper for the longest time.
>Valve is only worth 7.7 billion
Damn, no wonder Microsoft wants to buy them.
That has to be old or by a moron who has no idea what they're on about. You really think a company who makes 1 billion per year from virtual cases alone is worth 7.7 billion?
They are a private company, there's no market valuation, so the owner can ask for whatever amount wants.
I know that. But Gabe hasnt asked for anything to my knowledge so its some analyst gay making up stupid numbers in an even more moronic way.
they are a private company, so in theory the owner can ask for 1 trillion $, but Steam make between 7 and 10 billion revenue per year, so when Gaben meet God, the guy/girl who will take over Steam will be able to sell steam for 30-40 billions or more, because if you own Steam, you own PC gaming overall, Gog is too small and timmy store doesn't matter, so only Megacorp can pay (like Apple, Google, Microsoft etc), but i doubt it the guy/girl who will take over will sell a golden goose
>Steam will be able to sell steam for 30-40 billions or more
Steam is easily worth 100 billion
It's not worth even 10 billion.
>Makes 1 billion per year from CS cases alone
>Not worth even 10 billion
UE5 will allow indie devs make AAA quality video games with fraction of the cost.
>fraction of the cost
i mean you just put some stuff in and do some coding and you already got a video game. most of the budget goes into celebrities and israelite ceo's rewards.
Would Gabe sell Valve?
Hoping that Microsoft buys Valve like Phil said.
It's not for sale tho, it is a private company.
Don't worry. Gabe's son is a Formula1 gay and he will sell the company once Gabe dies of obesity related issues.
>PC won.
You mean, high-end PC won.
Poorgays should frick off from gaming
ITT:
warring is gay and harmful for customers
>>But actually healthy competition is good for the video game industry! WHERE ARE THE EXCLUSIVES!!!
Ganker is filled with such contrarian homosexuals.
Console warring IS moronic, brainlet. Black person minded consumers creating artificial tribalism because they can only afford one box over the other or some other stupid reason has been annoying since the early 2000s. That doesn't mean competition shouldn't exist where they can't push each other. Each company is just now resting on their laurels for a while and now the industry has been fricked for a while. I swear to god Ganker needs an IQ filter to weed out neanderthals like you.
Physical gaming is dead Black person, get with the times.
pc is the king
just make a console lasting for decades.
Soon
>buy a PS5
>the moment I buy it Sony starts to expand their business to PC
no need to thank me, PCbros
theyve already announced the PS6 thats coming this november.
Buy Bloodborne please
You made a momentous sacrifice, now the PC can know the joy of nogaems
MS bought Bethesda in 2020, when most of their studios had just released games. Same with Blizzard, who released Diablo 4 during acquisition.
at this point I can only hope AI will soon become so good I'll be able to make my own remakes and sequels for psx and ps2 games with 10 minutes of prompting.
Better be ready to wait 50 years. Ai still can't draw hands properly.
10 years ago field experts thought AGI won't happen before 2040. and now we might be months or just few short years away. you're wrong about hands, next SD model surpasses dalle, hands are perfect as well as text inputs and it's completely spacial aware (go check the example with colored geometric shapes in the middle with cat and dog on the sides, dalle can't pull that off correctly). hentai will never be the same once this gets a full release.
you're thinking small here. "dumb" gpt4 agents can already make simple websites and videogames, now imagine what you could pull off with 100 AGI agents who are experts in audio and video generation as well as 3d modeling and animation in UE5.
agi isn't here yet. the fact that they call it 'agi' instead of artificial intelligence should be a warning. ai is not actually intelligent, its more like auto complete is
It's expected this is where a lots of very heated debates will occur once someone makes AI that can pass all tests but still won't be cognitive or self aware. some will call it AGI, some won't but the key point here is it will be better than 99,999% humans in any given task.
we're a very, very long way off from anything close to that. its just never going to happen. ai generating sprites, code, all sorts of 3d stuff sure, but someone is always going to have to piece it together and that relies on at least some knowledge of the workings of things. ai is just a new tool in the box, not an entirely new thing. causing a vidya crash when things are already at their worst is just a plus
I am waiting for PS5 Pro. Still on PS4.
sony lost
>We will expand our PlayStation gaming experiences to PC, mobile & cloud
Why is this bad? When Xbox was doing it, I didn't see a problem then. I certainly don't see the problem now that Sony is also going to do it.
>PC won.
NEVER EVER PCHUDS!
I'm pretty sure its less about keeping it off PC and more about 'it may not be worth it to port this'.
>Valkyria Chronicles 1
Port was a sleeper hit due to its reasonable price, all content included, and overall being a solid game that has an assortment of waifus and husbandos for every taste, WW1 anime edition, and neat mechanics for tactical combat. PC was by far the most successful platform since its original PS3 release.
>Valkyria Chronicles 4
Released concurrently on PC along with consoles, in a good move by Sega. Sales were unfortunately meh on all platforms in the short term, but got better in the long term particularly on PC. The name had a lot to do with it, putting a 4 on it was foolish when it takes place during the same time as 1 and anyone except the hardcore fans will probably pass it over when they see 1 and then al the sudden 4. It should have been called something like "Valkyria Chronicles: on the Federation Front" and it would have sold better as mechanically it was better and everything else was parity to VC1.
Even with Azure Revolution being outside the same canon and meh compared to the others, I'd like to see it on PC. However what I'd want far more to revive Valkyria interest is...
>VC2 and VC3 Extra Edition REMAKE
Literally every time Sega brings some formerly portable PSP/Vita only thing to PC , or remakes/remasters something it does well. VC2 and VC3 EE were limited by their mobile platform - expanded remakes would give a great chance to revive the series and provide huge milf Alicia breasts
>Switch is being emulated but still sold 140 million units and counting
Pretty based.
It's been absolutely awesome how PC is getting so many games lately since Xbox and Playstation don't see it as a true traditional competitor. But I am worried about a future where they do start to see it for the competitor that it in fact is, and stop releasing so many of their games day 1.
>consoltards seething and somehow trying to spin a game being available on multiple platforms for more people to enjoy as a bad thing
Just accept your lose already.
Bro, look around at all of history. Competition is the primary reason for advancement. The problem we have is Sony convinced the masses that AAA cinematic slop is what all games should strive to be, and that path isn't sustainable.
>game is locked to one specific platform
Sounds like the opposite of competition.
>multiple consoles competing for market shares isn't competition
Are you moronic by chance?
Multiple consoles aren't going away.
Consoltards only care about exclusives.
They don't even stop to think most people just buy consoles because of convenience and not for exclusives.
Nah it's both convienece and exclusives
> The problem we have is Sony convinced the masses that AAA cinematic slop is what all games should strive to be, and that path isn't sustainable.
Just look at bg3 and biggest improvement is cinematic bear fricking. So what is game with grand gameplay? Souls game?
>dude bg3 is all about having sex with bears
Holy frick you are way too easily influenced by shitposters on Ganker.
Sure it has lesbians and Black folk
do you really get all of your information from random shitposters?
That bear fricking game is unironically and objectively better than generic Demon Souls #13 or whatever they're on now.
In terms of gameplay bg3 is worse than DOS2, and don’t know how /v think gameplay sell games.
I don't understand the PC crowd that hates Nintendo. Nintendo consoles are cheap, just get one if you want to play Nintendo games.
What do pc gays do when Switch 2 comes out?
>Complain the Switch 2 is shit and Nintendo is shit and the hardware is bad and that you "totally don't want to play those games anyway
>....
>Wait 4 years until emulation becomes playable
>Brag you can emulate Switch 2
The switch won't have any games for the first 4 years so it's fine.
Beg for console scraps, same as they always have
the emulation will take nowhere near 2 years if it's just going to be a switch 2 that's just a hardware upgrade
It does not even take years to make it a playable emulator. The only time this happened was PS3 and that was because the architecture was advanced. Switch is not that complex and easy. It was playable first year in and advanced things like graphics settings, 60fps was add a bit later on. But then again you are too lazy to research and know what you are talking about.
>ps4 emu comes out
>Bloodborne playable
Um.. what now Sonygs?
Bloodborne remake for the PS6!
if what the playstation president says is true, and it is, then that remake will also come to pc, on day one, as well as wolverine, and the new x-men game
kek pcope. cant even play demon souls and mgs4 as it is
>mgs4
>but
native 4k, not upscalling and dynamic resolutions
>all this consolewar shitflinging
>meanwhile i have both a pc for new releases AND a ps2 i'm replaying my old games on
I just finished Bully the other day. Feels good man
>Not using PCSX2
Come on now. At least use the nightly builds.
>smug anime face
i win
>he stopped directly quoting
The ultimate loser coward move.
This, but posting an anime reaction image
>N-NO U
Yes.
this moronic homie malding anyway. anon made a point and the moron went out of his way to prove the point tjat valvies are the worst fanbase
your japan cartoons are cg and have been 'drawn' by korea for 20 years now. you lost
anime reaction pics have always been the ultimate seethers last attempt to deflect. true then and true now kwabs
>literally think "what would trigger the assblasted loser who lost an argument the most"
>post anime pic
>collect free (You)s from assblasted morons saying they aren't mad.
Works every time.
We don't seem to know what "monopoly" or "competition" actually means in a market context. I'm gonna put these two words on top of the fridge, OK? We'll get them back when we're ready to use them properly, OK?
steam is a monopoly though. everyone targets that because they can do whatever the frick they want there. for example, capcom adding DRM to games and 2k games adding unnecessary launchers to fricking old ass games like Bioshock
gog isn't even a good option if you're not into older games or multiplayer
Steam is an argument for why a monopoly isn't actually a bad thing if they hold the monopoly for quality concerns or because nobody actually wants multiple account-based library services, rather than because they're deliberately muscling out competitors
Not a bad actor, so not a problem
>retroactively adding unnecessary shit that people did not want in the first place
>quality concerns
okay gay, any more about wanting to ride gaben? at least on gog they prevent such anti-consumerist shit like that
Jesse what the frick are you talking about
quality concerns here meaning controller support, steamworks multiplayer integration and server hosting, globally spanning CDN networks, a fricking shopping cart
people gravitate towards GOG because of their offline installers lol
Funny how Steam has all of that yet it is still the moron's platform of choice. All for the sake of convenience.
yes we get it you get hard to the thought of worse software
"convenience bad" is one of the absolute fricking dumbest opinions on basically any subject
Mad. "Convenience is good" is not an argument.
Meanwhile "convenience is bad" somehow is an argument and not a really really lazy troll
Cope. It's not my fault you're too braindead to pirate games instead of supporting the de facto monopoly and justifying it in the same breadth lmao.
It's nobody's fault you're a one-trick pony of a poster.
>gog isn't even a good option if you're not into older games or multiplayer
I disagree. GOG is the platform for older games and support of those older games. But it is starting to get more people publishing games on there who do not care about DRM.
Another Xbox troony cope thread.
what if I were to tell you, i play on pc and agree with op?
>everything i don't like is xbox
Uhhhhh what is there on ps5? I can emulate the only ps exclusive game ps3-5 worth it, demon's souls. Not the shit remake.
>not supporting gog
youre the problem fr fr