Industry analysts who actually work for marketing research firms will typically have access to more resources that are company-paid. I used to work for a company that was paying $200 a month for access to pharmacy's shipping data API. It wasn't just that it was $200 but you had to provide which company you were requesting the data for.
My guess is that Ahmad is looking at retailer data on copies sold/shipped, at least from the larger outlets (amazon, walmart, bestbuy, target, gamestop) and he might even have access to playstation's sales api
Should have made an actual remake instead of a total shitstorm. Look at RE4 remake, that was a success and would have been fricking GOTY if it was an original game instead of a remake.
As long as squeenix keeps being moronic and clinging to the exclusivity model, they'll keep losing out on sales.
I don't care how hot tifa is in her new swimsuit, I'm not buying a PS5.
well that's the good tactic, I mean it's console exclusivity, xtards don't buy any games, with the exclusivity deal, sony pay most of the marketing, and in a few years microsoft will pay 200 millions to have it in gamepass for 2 months
same for stellar blade, exclusive deals are awesome for games who aren't guaranteed to sell by the dozens of millions.
They didn't retain a new generation of fans. For around 16 years the IP hasn't been a must on ip. Add on the fact this is a sequel you have to play the first remake to even know what's going on and people just aren't interested.
You know what it is? The whole thing with crisis core already felt like the game was being milked and it wasn't that good in the first place. Zack was never that cool, and the story was NEVER that good to where it could be milked like an avengers style multiverse. When I saw those 3 buttholes on the cover of crisis core in gamestop it convinced me to never buy this.
>DD2 threads are drying up, as expected >P3R devovled into yukari fricking/fuuka handholding/elizabeth marrying threads >Y8 threads non-existent >Unicorn threads turned into a FE breeding grounds, as expected for FE clones aping marriage mechanics to draw in memers and coomers >only thing left is to piss and moan about a game they claim they didn't give a shit about to begin with
>"stop telling me I'm a joyless homosexual!"
not my fault I scroll through Ganker and get inundated with your contrarian homosexualry
I do enjoy knowing it triggers you, troon 😉
ATB actually. You'd know if you actually cared. moron.
The problem with turn-based morons is they never understood FF7 in the first place. The entire game was a huge FRICK YOU to the turn-based paradigm by introducing hurry-up mechanics.
>game with not many bugs >game with no microtransactions >game made with passion >game made by ff7 veterans >game works just fine >game has top notch gameplay
>meanwhile shit like the monopoly mobile game makes billions in a year >wondering why a social integrated game based on the most popular board game makes billions a year
Honestly I should get into mobile dev
well that sucks because no one under 30 gives a frick about final fantasy so it's either appeal to 30 year olds who actually like og final fantasy 7 or try to scoop up the kingdom hearts kids. they chose the latter and it backfired miserably because 19 year olds dont own a shitty ass PS5 or care about fanfic tier plot contrivances
Makes me happy since Im an actual FF7 fan and these remake sequels are insults from by devs that hate my guts.
But I still think they will be successful enough that I'll be listening homosexuals talk about how iconic they were for the rest of my life. And they still will completely replace the original in "gaming culture". So its not a great victory.
Remember when they were the ones pushing the bar higher every console generation? >FF tactics on gba >FF type 0 on psp >FF8 with multi discs and mixing cgi transition to gameplay on goddamn ps1 >FF10 with crazy movie cgi and the ff10-2 when sexy was a thing >FF11 with pseudo MMO gameplay on single player >I never played ff13 so can't say >Dissidia with original combat system >FF15 is debatable but having tie-in movie and active AI that will react to any shit you do is bonkers >Legend of mana with its convoluted but big system
Not all titles were great but they used to try. Now they're just sucking on ESG bucks and nostalgia banking
Anon if you want to name more games, go ahead. It sounds like you're the one who is desperate. It's not my fault GOTY in 2024 is not an impressive feat.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I think this all means a lot more to you than it does to me lol.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're not upset, and I'm not upset. Good, that worked out nicely.
Sorry that rebirth being GOTY isn't more impressive.
>divide single game into multiple parts like a israelite >ensure that it doesn't release on pc >le epic remake
they should be thankful for what they are getting
Fricking good. I hope Part 3 never comes out and Square just cucks all the idiots defending this trash. While I don't think FF XVI was amazing, it was still way better than the trash that is Remake and Rebirth.
>JRPG franchise >turn into a Kingdom Hearts clone instead of a faithful remake
no wonder it's failing, real FF fans dropped it.
I doubt Dirge of Cerberus had good sells too.
>"Says analyst" >"According to experts" >"Claims specialist" >"Thinks some random anon on Ganker"
All of these have the same value as what came out of my ass this morning.
>make console with no games >put one game on it with the eventuality that it will go to PC >wonder why no one buys the game immediately
Sony is criminally moronic
This guy is quoting an article from Push Up, which cited analysis from Ampere Analysis. The analysis mentioned that FF7 Rebirth had 2.21 million players on its first day. We already knew that FF7 Remake sold 5 million copies in a month. link: https://www.square-enix-games.com/en_EU/news/final-fantasy-vii-remake-shipments-sales
Breaking down the analysis, we find:
>FF7 Rebirth had 2.21 million players in just one day. >It's likely that more than 5 million copies have been sold by now, after a month. >Stellar Blade is predicted to have 4 million players on its first day. >Within a month, Stellar Blade might reach 10 million units sold.
Louis Woldridge has spoken.
We won. Final Fantasy won. Nomura won. Stellar Blade won. Shift Up won. Gamers won.
>mixed couple gives birth to Marques Brownlee
only incels think this is a bad thing.
>black man + white woman = Indian child
How did that happen?
Kek
>this is a squeernix screenshot
grim
Samegayging low effort shoops hoping it will catch on is pretty sad.
Vikki knows what's up.
well deserved, we all wanted a remake, not whatever fricking autism is happening right now
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
I still like it.
The ESG money was enough to cover the loss according to squeenix
Ganker would call it a flop no matter what, but real fans would call it a success no matter what
Based
>has no actual numbers, just "data"
Hi Barry
cope harder marty
Industry analysts who actually work for marketing research firms will typically have access to more resources that are company-paid. I used to work for a company that was paying $200 a month for access to pharmacy's shipping data API. It wasn't just that it was $200 but you had to provide which company you were requesting the data for.
My guess is that Ahmad is looking at retailer data on copies sold/shipped, at least from the larger outlets (amazon, walmart, bestbuy, target, gamestop) and he might even have access to playstation's sales api
Should have made an actual remake instead of a total shitstorm. Look at RE4 remake, that was a success and would have been fricking GOTY if it was an original game instead of a remake.
holy shit EXTREME cope
>goty
>part 3 will happen
Nothingburger
>sisters
you are a worthless moron shill
Maybe it wasn't such a good idea to take VII and try to stretch it out across 3 games.
As long as squeenix keeps being moronic and clinging to the exclusivity model, they'll keep losing out on sales.
I don't care how hot tifa is in her new swimsuit, I'm not buying a PS5.
this, imagine launching a niche AAA title as a console exclusive
well that's the good tactic, I mean it's console exclusivity, xtards don't buy any games, with the exclusivity deal, sony pay most of the marketing, and in a few years microsoft will pay 200 millions to have it in gamepass for 2 months
same for stellar blade, exclusive deals are awesome for games who aren't guaranteed to sell by the dozens of millions.
Sounds about right; Remake needed to knock it out of the park in order to set the other games in the trilogy up for success and failed to do so.
Seems my plan of not buying non-turnbased FF games is finally paying off.
They didn't retain a new generation of fans. For around 16 years the IP hasn't been a must on ip. Add on the fact this is a sequel you have to play the first remake to even know what's going on and people just aren't interested.
You know what it is? The whole thing with crisis core already felt like the game was being milked and it wasn't that good in the first place. Zack was never that cool, and the story was NEVER that good to where it could be milked like an avengers style multiverse. When I saw those 3 buttholes on the cover of crisis core in gamestop it convinced me to never buy this.
>DD2 threads are drying up, as expected
>P3R devovled into yukari fricking/fuuka handholding/elizabeth marrying threads
>Y8 threads non-existent
>Unicorn threads turned into a FE breeding grounds, as expected for FE clones aping marriage mechanics to draw in memers and coomers
>only thing left is to piss and moan about a game they claim they didn't give a shit about to begin with
You sure do keep tabs on a lot of games you don't give a shit about.
>"stop telling me I'm a joyless homosexual!"
not my fault I scroll through Ganker and get inundated with your contrarian homosexualry
I do enjoy knowing it triggers you, troon 😉
Have you tried playing Rebirth instead of defending it on Ganker? You know this is basically turn based combat, right?
ATB actually. You'd know if you actually cared. moron.
The problem with turn-based morons is they never understood FF7 in the first place. The entire game was a huge FRICK YOU to the turn-based paradigm by introducing hurry-up mechanics.
A gave a shit about them all until homosexuals like you decided to repurpose it for your own moronic means
>playstation userbase is half it was when remake released on ps4
>rebirth sold literally half of what remake did in that same timeframe
its literally not underperforming
Rebirth is a great fricking game. Nuff said ^_^
uh oh larry bout to melty again
>game with not many bugs
>game with no microtransactions
>game made with passion
>game made by ff7 veterans
>game works just fine
>game has top notch gameplay
>it underperforms
This shit scares me.
meanwhile shit like the monopoly mobile game makes billions in a year
>meanwhile shit like the monopoly mobile game makes billions in a year
>wondering why a social integrated game based on the most popular board game makes billions a year
Honestly I should get into mobile dev
>game that shit on its core audience
>underperforms
All is right in the world.
So, any game made past 2016.Gotcha.
>shits
You have issues my dude, if you think this is shitting
anon its core audience is one foot in the grave age wise
well that sucks because no one under 30 gives a frick about final fantasy so it's either appeal to 30 year olds who actually like og final fantasy 7 or try to scoop up the kingdom hearts kids. they chose the latter and it backfired miserably because 19 year olds dont own a shitty ass PS5 or care about fanfic tier plot contrivances
FF needs to appeal to the younger players.
If you're over 30 and haven't learned to play much better RPGs than FF, you have shit taste.
Makes me happy since Im an actual FF7 fan and these remake sequels are insults from by devs that hate my guts.
But I still think they will be successful enough that I'll be listening homosexuals talk about how iconic they were for the rest of my life. And they still will completely replace the original in "gaming culture". So its not a great victory.
>Im an actual FF7 fan
unlike all those other people who are definitely not real fans
You're not like the other guys
Sorry to break it to you but you are not a real fan.
real fans would buy and like whatever ff7 media SE are gracious enough to give us. but you're ungrateful and call it all bad.
Remember when they were the ones pushing the bar higher every console generation?
>FF tactics on gba
>FF type 0 on psp
>FF8 with multi discs and mixing cgi transition to gameplay on goddamn ps1
>FF10 with crazy movie cgi and the ff10-2 when sexy was a thing
>FF11 with pseudo MMO gameplay on single player
>I never played ff13 so can't say
>Dissidia with original combat system
>FF15 is debatable but having tie-in movie and active AI that will react to any shit you do is bonkers
>Legend of mana with its convoluted but big system
Not all titles were great but they used to try. Now they're just sucking on ESG bucks and nostalgia banking
>open world slop flops
Good
postin larry bait
///trigger warning - turn based + nintendo wins///
At least Rebirth finally surpassed SMRPG this week.
[NSW] Super Mario RPG <RPG> (Nintendo) {2023.11.17} (¥5.980) - 2.034 / 473.939 <80-100%>
[PS5] Final Fantasy VII Rebirth <RPG> (Square Enix) {2024.02.29} (¥8.980) - 3.819 / 314.415 <80-100%> (-21%)
Lucky Smell Divers 2 is over performing
it's my GOTY
what games did it beat to become your GOTY?
Unicorn overlord
Dragons dogma 2
That's it so far
Oh, so your GOTY isn't a very high bar to achieve
>reply in 30 seconds
You're desperate I get it
Anon if you want to name more games, go ahead. It sounds like you're the one who is desperate. It's not my fault GOTY in 2024 is not an impressive feat.
I think this all means a lot more to you than it does to me lol.
You're not upset, and I'm not upset. Good, that worked out nicely.
Sorry that rebirth being GOTY isn't more impressive.
Why are you apologizing? It's OK bro
no shit, this year is barren of new releases
especially the west dev scene has completely shat itself
Pretty much. It's like when people use "#1 best seller on PS5" as a boast.
If rebirth wins GOTY it will be down to a lack of competition
YoshiP ruined the reputation of Final Fantasy with XVI, this is why Rebirth flopped
Tabata and XV opened the sewer gates, drowning everything in shit. Your point?
Well I'll just go and buy a non-existant copy for my Xbox
>divide single game into multiple parts like a israelite
>ensure that it doesn't release on pc
>le epic remake
they should be thankful for what they are getting
Fricking good. I hope Part 3 never comes out and Square just cucks all the idiots defending this trash. While I don't think FF XVI was amazing, it was still way better than the trash that is Remake and Rebirth.
>Most people have a PS4
>Most people don't have PS5
Go figure.
I only care about the games because other people will port over the models for SFM porn. Squee can eat a dick for all i care.
SE fans are something else, years and years of abuse and they still buy the games
Would you prefer they convert to tendieism ?
>BUT NINTENDO
i wonder why you didn't use pic related as an example instead 🙂
really gets noggin joggin
Any nintendo related pic would've sufficed to draw out the mentally ill, sales obsessed tendie.
>he thinks it has anything to do with sales and not the fact that it is the perfect example of a truly perfect remake
Uh-huh.
>sequel to a bad game sells worse
Cool.
After it finally settled with people that it wasn't even a remake i bet tons of people lost interest, both newcomers and older fans.
here's your remake bro, that'll be $210
Why can’t we have retro styled ff games? The japs want that
>JRPG franchise
>turn into a Kingdom Hearts clone instead of a faithful remake
no wonder it's failing, real FF fans dropped it.
I doubt Dirge of Cerberus had good sells too.
Nobody buys faithful remakes. The very eptiome of "safe and boring"
>"Says analyst"
>"According to experts"
>"Claims specialist"
>"Thinks some random anon on Ganker"
All of these have the same value as what came out of my ass this morning.
>make console with no games
>put one game on it with the eventuality that it will go to PC
>wonder why no one buys the game immediately
Sony is criminally moronic
NOT SO FAST
This guy is quoting an article from Push Up, which cited analysis from Ampere Analysis. The analysis mentioned that FF7 Rebirth had 2.21 million players on its first day. We already knew that FF7 Remake sold 5 million copies in a month. link: https://www.square-enix-games.com/en_EU/news/final-fantasy-vii-remake-shipments-sales
Breaking down the analysis, we find:
>FF7 Rebirth had 2.21 million players in just one day.
>It's likely that more than 5 million copies have been sold by now, after a month.
>Stellar Blade is predicted to have 4 million players on its first day.
>Within a month, Stellar Blade might reach 10 million units sold.
Louis Woldridge has spoken.
We won. Final Fantasy won. Nomura won. Stellar Blade won. Shift Up won. Gamers won.
Gaming is healing...