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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Last good gen. Moving to 3D was a mistake.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >moving to 3D was a mistake
      True every gen past 3 was terrible

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Moving to 3D was a mistake.
        Yeah, it’s why gen 5 looks so ugly

        Pokemon moved to 3D with XY. In the main series at least.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >But muh 3D buildings even though the entire gameplay is 2D

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            play the game kalosperm

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              …so hoenn is 3D as well then.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                post me a gen 3 gif where a character moves on a 3d modelled landscape in 3 dimensions, kalosperm

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            3D Pokemon didn't really do away with the grid until Sun and Moon. X and Y aren't really any different from previous games, gameplay-wise. Megas and Fairies were new, but those could've been done in 2D. I dunno, I just never understood why people hated 3D Pokemon this much, even though the game itself barely changed. Sun and Moon was really the least forumalaic game since Red and Blue.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Borts don't have eyes that's why they thing Gen 5 looks good
          >Cant even tell what basic 3D is
          It all comes together.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >the 3D doesn't count as 3D because it happens to be in a game I like
          You could just try finding actual reasons to not like XY instead of just making yourself look like a disingenuous inconsistent moron. But I guess that would require too much effort and thought for you, huh?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Those crunchy ass shitty buildings.
            Just the way I like it!!!!!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Moving to 3D was a mistake.
      Yeah, it’s why gen 5 looks so ugly

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly, i disagree.
      I think Gen 7 was pretty great, probably not as good as Gen 4-5, but i think it's on par with Gen 3 at least.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >spastic thinks there was ever a chance of a remade Gen 5 in Gen 9
    Once every new system. So mark down 2028, it's the next viable remake year

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >3D didn't start with gen 6!
    >When XY's whole selling point was literally 3D
    How did kalosperm became this delusional?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >3D limited to specific areas of the game
      are kalosperms so daft that they cannot tell apart stereoscopic 3d from gameplay 3d
      by this asinine kalosperm logic switch games are not 3d lol

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >White version has the black legendary
    >Black version has the white legendary
    WHY

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      YinYang moron. Even a toddler would figure it out

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Stop talking Chinatown to me you weeb

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >THE DS POKEMON GAMES ARE 3D POKEMON GAMES BROS!
    >2D pokemon in them
    >not playable in actual 3D
    Get better bait and please learn what 2.5D is.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >>not playable in actual 3D
      see

      play the game kalosperm

      dumb kalosperm
      >b-but Pokemon are sprites!!!
      mario in paper mario is a sprite but nobody would doubt that not acknowledging paper mario as 3d is a brain damaged take

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That’s not playable in 3D. Pokemon games from XY onward are playable in 3D modes.
        Also, Mario games have a clear split between 2D and 3D gameplay games, so even if Mario is a 3D model like in Wonder, it’s a 2D Mario game, while something like Odyssey and Galaxy is 3D.
        Meanwhile, Pokemon games are divided along if you can move in more than four directions and if, most importantly, the Pokemon are represented by sprites or models and have individualized animations with the battles being rendered in 3D space and not abstracted. Building assets being 3D for a slight camera effect isn’t how the games are divided at all.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the character in the gif literally moves in three axes kalosperm
          play the fricking games

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >muh layers
            This has always existed.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >kalosperm thinks that ground layers in a 2d environment rendered via a sprited map is comparable to a 3d environment that has its own model
              i understand you want to believe that your horrible game is the first 3d game but you gotta get better arguments kalosperm

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >rendered differently!
                Makes no functional difference
                Again, building assets being 3D for a slight camera effect isn’t how the games are divided at all. Learn what 2.5D is.
                Also, why do you keep calling me a Kalosperm? I fricking hate Kalos.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Makes no functional difference
                in terms of determining how many dimensions a game has? it's one of the main factors
                >Again, building assets being 3D for a slight camera effect
                you havent played unova in ages i get it
                play through castelia city for 5 minutes then come back to see that its not a slight effect
                >Learn what 2.5D is.
                2d gameplay in a 3d environment .. like street fighter 6
                in unova games you demonstrably move in three axes during gameplay
                >Also, why do you keep calling me a Kalosperm? I fricking hate Kalos.
                you are playing right into kalosperm narrative because they take pride on the FALSE claim of their trash game being the first 3d game
                even if you're not a kalosperm you're helping them spew garbage by taking their objectively false side

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >it’s one of the main factors
                Well no, if it can be also done with no 3D assets like in Fortree
                >castelia
                Exceptions don’t disprove tendencies. Majority of the time it’s just used for a better scroll as you move in a grid
                >2D gameplay in a 3D environment
                Wrong. There no point in arguing anything if you frick up definitions
                >Kalosperm narrative
                Nope. They hate being called the first 3D game because people rightfully associate it with the downfall of Pokemon. They try to say the DD games are 3D to deflect to them.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Well no, if it can be also done with no 3D assets like in Fortree
                which is done completely differently, no 3d involved, and looks different as result
                >Exceptions don’t disprove tendencies. Majority of the time it’s just used for a better scroll as you move in a grid
                with all due respect you need to pay more attention to what's going on in the game

                >Wrong. There no point in arguing anything if you frick up definitions
                show me your definition? because the first definition says
                2.5D (two-and-a-half dimensional) perspective refers to gameplay or movement in a video game or virtual reality environment that is restricted to a two-dimensional (2D) plane with little or no access to a third dimension in a space that otherwise appears to be three-dimensional and is often simulated and rendered in a 3D digital environment.
                so literally just 2d gameplay in 3d environment - something untrue in unova because you move on 3 axes all the time
                >Nope. They hate being called the first 3D game because people rightfully associate it with the downfall of Pokemon. They try to say the DD games are 3D to deflect to them.
                no because of the kalosperms that downplay the golden age (hgss and gen 5) by showing singular shots or out of context comparisons to make it seem like their game is superior
                people thinking that xy is the first 3d game makes this angle easier for then

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >looks different
                Just like Gens 1-5 looks vastly different from Gens 6+ my a larger amount. I could show you an IRL photograph of a 3D scene but it’s still a 2D photo, so final appearance is only being used by you if it happens to support you.
                >pay more attention
                You should pay more attention to the definition of 2.5D and the fact that the DS games closer resemble previous game than subsequent games in terms of visuals.
                >show me your definition
                The using of both 2D sprites and 3D models in tandem
                >downplay the golden age
                By saying it did 3D worse, yes. Thanks for actually understanding the board and not being a newbie tourist

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Just like Gens 1-5 looks vastly different from Gens 6+ my a larger amount.
                gens 1-3, 4-5, 6 and 7-9 are all their own beasts though
                >I could show you an IRL photograph of a 3D scene but it’s still a 2D photo
                so all games are 2d because they are pictures on a screen, with the sole exceptions of 3ds gens cause they do stereoscopic 3d???
                >You should pay more attention to the definition of 2.5D
                >The using of both 2D sprites and 3D models in tandem
                this is not "the" definition of 3d but your own definition at best
                meanwhile i literally went to wikipedia for mine, and by wikipedia definition unova is not 2.5d
                >By saying it did 3D worse, yes.
                it didnt do 3d worse and kalosperms know this so their only line of attack is to claim that unova wasnt 3d at all
                bringing up facts destroys the "argument" kalosperms use

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >subdiving further
                I get that that’s possible, but if someone is saying something between 2D Pokemon and 3D Pokemon, they actually mean the Pokemon primarily
                >so all games are 2D except 3DS
                And Switch, yes. Not for the reason you think.
                >wikipedia
                They say picrel is 2.5D. Plus, it’s Wikipedia. We’re talking about specifically creating a split within pokemon itself. By your definition all the games are 2.5D since RBY because there are stylistic stairs and ladders.
                >it didn’t do 3D worse
                I agree, I’m just telling you what kalosperms usually say and anyone would know that if they spent more than a week on /vp/

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Forgot pic

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >if someone is saying something between 2D Pokemon and 3D Pokemon, they actually mean the Pokemon primarily
                that's a poor criterion for the same reasons why nobody would call paper mario anything but a 3d game
                >They say picrel is 2.5D.
                specifically because there is only one plane and every position on the x and z axes has only one corresponding position on the y axis, which is not the case in gen 5
                >By your definition all the games are 2.5D since RBY because there are stylistic stairs and ladders.
                there are no 2.5d pokemon games in my perspective
                1-3 are 2d, others are 3d
                >I’m just telling you what kalosperms usually say and anyone would know that if they spent more than a week on /vp/
                ive been here since 2016 bro, there are many threads in which kalosperms flaunted the (false) info that kalos was the first 3d game

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >poor criterion because of paper mario
                Again, as I already explained, that’s because the main difference between half of Mario games lies in movement, not models vs sprites. Between SMW (all 2D assets) NSMBDS (mixed assets) and SMBW (almost completely 3D assets) they’re all considered 2D by fans because of the style of gameplay being distinct from 3D Mario games like Galaxy, 3D World/Land, Odyssey, and even Paper.
                The standard is different with mainline Pokemon games because they all simulate 3D movement using different assets with the main focus always being two dimensions, so we have to find another distinction to fit when people say 2D Pokemon vs 3D Pokemon. And how the Pokemon and people are represented, as well as them moving in 4 directions, tend to be the most obvious way to seperate the games into 2D and 3D eras, as well as being able to actually play in a 3D mode.
                >not the case in Gen 5
                But it still isn’t even consistent with its own definition as well as yours, which is my point. It’s Wikipedia.
                > there are no 2.5d pokemon games in my perspective
                Even though Gens 1-3 fit your own moronic definition of 2.5D? Sure.
                >revisionism
                Nice try

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Again, as I already explained, that’s because the main difference between half of Mario games lies in movement, not models vs sprites. Between SMW (all 2D assets) NSMBDS (mixed assets) and SMBW (almost completely 3D assets) they’re all considered 2D by fans because of the style of gameplay being distinct from 3D Mario games like Galaxy, 3D World/Land, Odyssey, and even Paper.
                >The standard is different with mainline Pokemon games because they all simulate 3D movement using different assets with the main focus always being two dimensions, so we have to find another distinction to fit when people say 2D Pokemon vs 3D Pokemon. And how the Pokemon and people are represented, as well as them moving in 4 directions, tend to be the most obvious way to seperate the games into 2D and 3D eras, as well as being able to actually play in a 3D mode.
                thats a lot of words to justify mental disability of the average pokemon fan
                the truth of something is not determined by how many people claim it, otherwise pla would officially be an open world gamd
                >But it still isn’t even consistent
                untrue
                >Even though Gens 1-3 fit your own moronic definition of 2.5D?
                do they have most/all of the environment rendered via models?
                of course not, they don't have any models to begin with. not 2.5d
                simple

                if you never saw kalosperms praising kalos for "being the first 3d game" then you're the tourist here bro

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I can’t actually fathom a simple logic so I must call it mental disability!
                You could just say the former anon, we get it.
                >untrue
                Read my next point:
                >no models =/= 2.5D
                YOU’RE OWN DEFINITION of 2.5D is independent of the presence of 3D models anon.
                >praise
                You wanna know what’s hundreds of times more common around here? People holding the fine opinion that 3D Pokemon (XY) ruined the series and Kalosgays saying “AKSHUALLY GEN 4 AND 5 SUCK TOO BECAUSE THEY TECHNICALLY HAVE SOME 3D

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I refuse to accept arbitrarily chosen criteria that change from game-to-game, formed retroactively to fit the preconceived classifications people use without having thought over what makes a game 3D
                glad you understood
                >YOU’RE OWN DEFINITION of 2.5D is independent of the presence of 3D models anon.
                rendering a 3d space is done via 3d models
                so it's required
                >Kalosgays saying “AKSHUALLY GEN 4 AND 5 SUCK TOO BECAUSE THEY TECHNICALLY HAVE SOME 3D
                nobody says that
                people who say that the switch to 3d (with the false notion that gen 6 did it) killed pokemon are not the same people who belittle the golden era

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >a game that’s a mix of 2D and 3D with the focus of the game still being in 2D is a 3D game
                Stop shilling this garbage
                >rendering a 3d space is done via 3d models so it's required
                This doesn’t make sense under your own definition of 2.5D
                >nobody says that
                Thanks for confirming you’re a newbie

                And I didn’t say people who thought XY killed the series don’t like Gens 4 and 5 either. That wouldn’t even make sense since they think it was alive before Gen 6. Can you even follow a thought for three seconds?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >with the focus of the game still being in 2D
                schizo headcanon
                >This doesn’t make sense under your own definition of 2.5D
                how so? 3d elements are not present without 3d models
                >And I didn’t say people who thought XY killed the series don’t like Gens 4 and 5 either.
                meanwhile in an earlier post
                saying “AKSHUALLY GEN 4 AND 5 SUCK *TOO* (emphasis mine)
                sorry for your illiteracy

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >the people and the Pokemon themselves being sprites is schizophrenia headcanon
                Meds
                >3D elements are not present without 3D models
                So according to your definitions, 2.5D does not exist.
                >meanwhile in an earlier post
                That’s literally doing what I described. Kalosgays “””defend””” their shitty region by dragging everything down with it if they can’t make it seem good. Thinking XY KILLED the series means the other group of people actually like 4+5. Don’t bring up illiteracy when you run into brick walls like this.

                I know you’re moronic anon get help soon.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Meds
                saying that a game is only 2d or 3d depending on how characters are depicted is schizophrenia headcanon
                >So according to your definitions, 2.5D does not exist.
                in pokemon games it doesnt
                >Don’t bring up illiteracy when you run into brick walls like this.
                you ran into a brick wall yourself bro
                to break it down for you .. kalosperms who say "gen 4 and gen 5 suck because they are 3d" do not say "gen 6 sucks just like gens 4 5" .. whenever someone says it youre talking to a genwunner or a hoennbab sad that emerald AND oras are worse than the golden era
                it's your mind that extrapolated "thinking" anything when this was about what kalosperms say on Ganker
                enjoy a simple explanation 🙂 hope the last paragraph of

                >I refuse to accept arbitrarily chosen criteria that change from game-to-game, formed retroactively to fit the preconceived classifications people use without having thought over what makes a game 3D
                glad you understood
                >YOU’RE OWN DEFINITION of 2.5D is independent of the presence of 3D models anon.
                rendering a 3d space is done via 3d models
                so it's required
                >Kalosgays saying “AKSHUALLY GEN 4 AND 5 SUCK TOO BECAUSE THEY TECHNICALLY HAVE SOME 3D
                nobody says that
                people who say that the switch to 3d (with the false notion that gen 6 did it) killed pokemon are not the same people who belittle the golden era

                is easily understood now

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >saying that a game is only 2D or 3D
                I’m saying that when people refer to 3D Pokemon, they’re referring to XY and onward, and for good reason. No ones denying there’s 3D assets in earlier games and there’s 2D assets in future games. The “only” is where you seem to lose the conversation
                >in Pokemon games it doesn’t
                Yet there are Pokemon games that fit your shitty definition of 2.5D. You said it’s 2D only with the illusion of 3D to make 3D gameplay, but then said 3D gameplay can only be brought about via 3D models. It’s clear to me you’re just kicking the can farther and farther without actually knowing what you are talking about for the sake of arguing.
                > kalosperms who say "gen 4 and gen 5 suck because they are 3d" do not say "gen 6 sucks just like gens 4 5"
                That’s exactly what they say, but in the reverse order. You’d know this if you weren’t a newbie tourist. People shit on Gen 6 for killing the series with its 3D Pokemon, and Kalosgays “defense” for that is that they didn’t start it. They rarely flaunt that they started full 3D, even though it’s true, because everyone hates full 3D in most Pokemon games and doesn’t view that as an accomplishment but rather a hindrance in GF’s implementation.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the character in the gif literally moves in three axes kalosperm
        play the fricking games

        also discord posts

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Everyones hates HGSS due to Game Freak being too stupid to fix the problem with Johto being anothing but KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO's backyard
    >BW were made in a direct response to this criticism, hence having the biggest roster and actually making use of them
    >Poketards are ungrateful homosexuals who can't appreciate Masuda's Magnum Opus because they can't go one game without CHARIZARD
    >Masuda stops trying and the franchise goes so this, now being mogged by a Chinese Knock-off
    Poketards reap what they show

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Every single point you made is a lie. That's impressive.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Everyones hates HGSS
        No one bought is so this is true
        > due to Game Freak being too stupid to fix the problem with Johto being anothing but KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO's backyard
        This is true
        >BW were made in a direct response to this criticism,
        Never confirmed but it’s one hell of a coincidence that they would design a game to be independent from all other entries right after the game that was shit on for leaning too much on the previous installment
        >hence having the biggest roster
        This is true, 156, even more than KNTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO’s 151
        >and actually making use of them
        Again true only Gen5 Pokemon appear until the postgame
        >Poketards are ungrateful homosexuals who can't appreciate Masuda's Magnum Opus because they can't go one game without CHARIZARD
        True
        >Masuda stops trying and the franchise goes so shit,
        True, Gen 6 onward was garbage and are only remembered for the new forms CHARIZARD gets
        > now being mogged by a Chinese Knock-off
        True, Palworld is kicking Pokémon’s ass
        Where is the lie?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unovabros just can't stop mentioning Kalosbros and vice versa. They truly love each other like true sister gens.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You stupid Black folk are still trying to pretend 3D started anytime before the 3DS? The shift happened with the move from Pokemon sprites to Pokemon models. Sorry, but your schizo moron babble will never catch on.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's very easy and boring, so yeah i guess that's right, we deserve an actual good game

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Qrd?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

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