Space Marine 2 gameplay

Women aren't soldiers.

They don't really have a choice in 40k. The Imperium need bodies, and the sex doesn't matter as long as it can shoot a lasgun. There's a galaxy wide permanent draft and women aren't exempt.

GW doesn't fund Warhammer vidya, they just dole out the license plus have some say on the creative process.

The new dev can't afford Mark Strong or he's too busy to voice a vidya character he did a decade ago.

The new Titus doesn't even look like the original either, they might as well picked a new character.

Women aren't soldiers and we all know it, so stop pretending otherwise. It has no basis in reality and just looks silly. It's dress-up, cosplay.

>it makes sense in the context of the setting
No it doesn't. Physically inept individuals in a war zone doesn't make sense.
>as you can pull a trigger with your finger.
Women can't do this. They think guns are scary and only for mean Trump supporters.

>It has no basis in reality
Anon I'd like to introduce you to a setting called Warhammer 40k, where alien bugs and daemons from a magical sub-dimension of the galaxy fight giant green mushroom men and elves who wear bone armor.

Bitch, it's 40 fricking thousand years into the future. Shut your wiener holster and leave.

*Tips fedora

Perhaps you could say that in the somber times ahead, conflict prevails.

>as long as it can shoot a lasgun
Women can't shoot guns.

Not surprising the last thing you want to be doing is giving the 41% a loaded firearm in a public setting.

They shoot at clay pigeons using fake .22s

and lasguns have zero recoil. the guard operates on volume of fire, so a shot in the general direction of the enemy is still valuable, especially when it's just a fricking wave of them.

why are you still trying to project 21st century ideas on 42nd millennium combat

Yes, that's the one immersion breaking silly thing in the whole universe.

Yeah pretty much

Glad we all agree, moron bros. Now let's go back to serious topics like how red makes vehicles go faster for the mushroom people, or how elves fricked a deity into existence.

I know, right? Women scare me too much to exist in this setting with living saints and T-800 armies. Like, we have to expect a woman to not be treated like m'lady should, and instead she has to STAND in place.
Too ridiculous.

Me too, when mom didn't deliver my tendies in time. But i don't see the relevance to the topic at hand.

Man not strong either when it comes to 8ft tall demon thing cleaving through them. Not carry heavy things (thus need for servitors). Waste resource.

>Wounded
IG only have one wound. No need to worry about helping casualties, because there are only deaths.

Game instructs the lore. You should try learning about them both.

Worse things have happened, yes.

Harlequins. Anything with Angron. Most of the Grey Knights books. Ciaphas Cain

>Do you even play the TT?
Yes, but i'm more a lore fan.
>I said name me an example of the scenario
Ah, my mistake. In that case i can't think of that specific thing happening, but then again, i haven't read the Custodes books.

Not him but I've been playing a lot of OPR cause haven't vibed with 10th.

Weirdly OPR has become more popular in my local scene than 10th.
Wanna say a normal night is 80% OPR and 20% HH.
Nobody is playing 10th outside when it first launched and everyone gave it a go.

OPR is "model agnostic" so I've seen a lot of 3D printed or proxied models.
There's a knights player who uses Battletech mechs for instance.

The people behind it also offer STLs to print models to use.
They're through their patreon but you can find them for free online anyway.
My biggest complaint with OPR is it lacks heroes/characters but as an actual ruleset it's pretty fun and snappy. Like somebody actually tried playing it before releasing rules.

I don’t remember any of the old guard boxes having women in the ranks

Rogue trader?

So why don't they count?

Rogue trader has shit like half elf marines, moron

It was silly shit, all of it

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Illiyan_Nastase
I hope this guy shows up in space marine 2!

Their whole argument is that you're not a real 40k fan if you don't accept all the stupid whacky shit from rogue trader thats getting dug up from modern GW.

If not liking squats means I'm not a "true 40k fan" then so be it.

Glad you agree you aren't a fan.

Yes it is, and you're being a silly little libshit b***h for even pretending otherwise. But it's getting that way with people like you turning it into a balloon animal factory to suit your painfully saccharine sensibilities.

Ah yes 40K is well known for it's grounded content.

Nope.
Just hate poser gays pretending they know shit.

Be careful, you'll be called not a real fan!

troony fantasies? Like not humoring bad faith posters using rogue trader to justify their argument that "40k has always been this way"?

Notice how you're seething at imaginary people.

Been here longer than you redditor.

You do know discord is a chat program right?

Proving [...]s point

I always already proven right that redditors are trying to fit in by crying about imaginary people.

Not something to brag about, newfriend.

>admits to being new.

Lurk bro. Maybe you’ll stop being a fruit who thinks women can fight even 38000 years from now

You don’t have one. Women can’t do combat for shit and still only the rogue trader and astra sets posted

Cope more troony.
You were BTFO multiple times and are seething.

I'm glad theres enough of us here to actually call out this guy on his manipulative bullshit. Every time you see these people they need to be fricking squashed like a bug.

Nobodys falling for it.

>redditor desperate to fit in
Go back.

>stuck in a loop
Holy shit,

Leftists ideologically insulating themselves is why this homosexual is still just spam-repeating random words in a desperate attempt to deflect. He's stuck in a loop because he has no way of dealing with being found out. They're arrogant enough to believe they're smarter than everyone else and so they're always caught off-guard when they're inevitably called out.

called it.

>lies
What like you being a woman troony?

Not something to brag about, newfriend.

>claims it isn't imaginary
>proceeds to make up a bunch of shit
>reddit spaces

Why are you seething at imaginary people?
Is it cause you forgot your hormones?

>brags about being poor.

Lurk bro. Maybe you’ll stop being a fruit who thinks women can fight even 38000 years from now

>admits to being a troony

>imaginary
You were running defense for the new libshit written fem guard the whole thread, guy.

>admits to being schozphrenic troony
lmao is this the state of redditors?

You are yeah.

Yeah IG accept anyone for their grinder.
Dunno why you seethe about this so much.

lmao no they fricking don't

>thinks that calling forum regulars redditors is an effective ruse long after he's been outed by said regulars

You're literally just drawing buzzwords out of a hat.

>stuck in a loop
Holy shit, [...] called it.

Why are you gays seething so hard?
You keep talking about leftists and shit after it was proven you don't know shit about 40K and are just incels seething about women.

Yup. It doesn't work when we've got 20 years worth of 40k video games to point out that doesn't totally jive with nu-40k and GWs agenda of digging up nostalgia to pander to their hopeless consumers.

>Like the Ruskis in WW2
You mean the same political ideologues who believed in such moronic bullshit as Lysenkoism and even they realized 'muh davushka snaepyr' was just a propaganda meme and not a workable reality?

>inb4 bunkertroon ludmilla pavlichenko infographics

It was posted earlier. Current guard boxes don't have them either. You have to get the "upgrades" shite. But by that metric, most power weapons and plasma stuff doesn't exist either.

>Current guard boxes don't have them either
Someone's been living under a rock I see.

Yeah pretty much

>The Imperium need bodies
Which is why throwing women, the most scalable and economically convenient way to make a shit load of more bodies, into a meat grinder is fricking moronic.

Militia forces and emergency PDFs in need of support elements? Sure. Professional standing regiments? No. Makes no sense and it's dumb. The truth is the Imperium would be putting every able bodied woman on breeding duty, but GW doesn't have the balls to do that so we get silly nonsense where an entire theater's competent officer corps are women.

Women in Warhammer are for creating more humans and after that they're sent into battle with the rest.

In Hive worlds you're either a babbymaker until your vagoo can't work or you're mandated to have no less than 2 kids then you're off to fight in the front along with the rest.

Even Bolter b***hes get passed around to the Ecclesiarchy, Stormtroopers and the Commissariat as a rite of passage to create more of the Emperor's warriors. If they go ahegao during this last ordeal they are strapped to a Penitent Engine and it won't stop until they're dead.

Warhammer is one of the few universes where I don't get annoyed seeing female soldiers. It fits thematically. They're in such a shitty situation, they're taking anyone warm and anyone who isn't gets ground up and put into rations. I'm not even joking about that last part.

You could always argue they'd treat women as baby making machines, and some planets do, but this is also a universe with artificial wombs where they can crank out way more people than a real womb ever could. It makes sense they'd take female soldiers in most cases.

>Those artificial wombs still need real female (read: real female and not trannies) egg cells.
I don't see why they'd need the women physically there after they get them. Shit, I could see the Imperium just taking a select few fertility goddess built women and giving them a life of luxury and health just to get the best possible samples and pump out soldiers while riffraff are sent to the frontlines.

I don't see the gripe about women being in the guard. It makes perfect sense. Where I draw the line are troons trying to identify with space marines because of dick mutilation. I also believe the troon community as a whole it currently attempting to infiltrate 40K and ruin it as a franchise because they don't like Chuds like me identifying with fascist space fantasy stuff, but that is neither here nor there.

>Caring this much about something so unimportant in a fantasy video game.

Seek help.

If you have pulse and get drafted, you go into the battle.
Simple as

It's different when this is an existential threat where losing means the entire species goes extinct. There are entire planets that do nothing but churn out weapons for the war effort.

>but the psychically inferior sex can totally be badass soldiers
No one has said that, we're saying they're meat that gets blown up in human waves. The guard is a meatgrinder. The Imperium needs bodies, and everyone in the guard is a faceless, expendable draftee that's already dead the second they get handed their lasrifle. You will die a painful, probably screaming, death serving in the guard.

>meat that gets blown up in human waves
Yeah it was called WW1 and women still weren't drafted because they're not fricking soldiers. A female soldier is like giving a toddler a rifle—a liability, moronation, not real.

And it's dumb and self-contradictory with its own setting. A humanity on the ropes would be making sure ever fertile woman is churning out babies instead of playing cannon fodder.

Yes, actually. GW not having the balls to be consistent with its lore cheapens this universe a lot of the time.

>A humanity on the ropes would be making sure ever fertile woman is churning out babies instead of playing cannon fodder.
The least important thing in the 40K universe is a human life.
If you actually weren't a secondary you'd know this.

STFU. The Imperium doesn't give a shit about life in the first place, it cares about survival and the easiest way to do that is with an infinite supply of bodies and the easiest way to do that is make women make them instead of throwing them away.

>unironically using incel in a 40k Ganker thread
Look at his silly moron and laugh everyone.

Why didn't you use incel again, anon? Did you realize something about the insult and where you are that prevented you from using it again?

>Ganker user
>40k thread
You're as much an incel as anyone else here, anon, and the fact you retreated from using the word like a pussy because you realized that until you were prodded about it only makes that more obvious.

Go on, use more libshit plebbit brain arguments for why your simp behavior for non-existent and comedic female soldiers in a game designed to milk shekels out of failures with acute arrested development.

I'm not the one simping for the parody of female IG soldiers, anon.

>Yeah you're the one seething at something in since the start.
You know we know this is just blatant gaslighting and revisionism, right?

If the QQing fits

>STFU. The Imperium doesn't give a shit about life in the first place
My dudes do.

They still have gear to carry and obstacles to get through. Women cannot do either of those tasks as well as a man. Touch grass

I thought only the Death Korps did cloning, and even then it's not something that's openly admitted.

why wouldn't they clone just the males that are better suited for combat or the horrible universe in general and have the women only for breeding? you say they have no shortage of human lives but they are constantly at war against the rest of the universe barely hanging on. eh doesn't matter anyways, as i said if enough people cry or if someone higher up feels especially israeli any lore or logic goes out of the window in favor for woke shit

>Still seeking real life comparison with a setting the galaxy is split in a half by hell and basically being eating by megabugs
>at the same time

>Cadians and Catachans learn to load a rifle before they learn to read
Women can barely read let alone load a rifle

In Warhammer, Space Marine candidates are usually 13-15 years old.

In some worlds there exist an entire cadre of youngling corps who usually serve as support roles for active duty personnel. They do get killed, corrupted and mangled as well.

Lucky for you there is the Kringe Korps of Krieg for all your human creche needs. Embrace your inner bugman and die for the cause as another serial number.

>This has happened countless times throughout history
Mankind has never faced angry, horny, depraved, disease ridden Gods from beyond the cosmos. Its literally a battle for survival as a species.
>"B-b-b-but cultures fought other cultures for survival!"
Yes, and many of them also resorted to teaching their women and even children how to fight. Look no further than Japan when they thought they'd be invaded in the twilight of WW2. The Soviet Union did the same thing.

Well then it's a good thing imperial citizens are post-human psychopaths who work 20 hour shifts regularly, not normal people.

>there's no reason to disallow 50% of your population from defending your planet or whatever.
Someone has to run the economy. The only situation where it's sensible to have women fighting is when you also have the 15 year olds and 50 years fighting as well, situations where you're probably going to lose anyway.

>is when you also have the 15 year olds and 50 years fighting as well
Good thing the guard does just that on a daily basis. You really really seem to think that 40k operates on 21st century sensibilities, it doesn't.

>We're still dealing with human beings here
my brother in christ this is warhammer 40,000

Even during the great crusade, soldiers in the solar auxilia were conscripted for a THIRTY YEAR tour of duty. If they lived they had the option of retiring on a conquered world or getting rejuvenat treatments and going in again. And that is the least grimdark the baseline human army has ever been in the galaxy.

the imperium has its moments even now
remember that one general who collapsed from so much fighting and was sent to a pleasure planet that revolted and then got nommed by tyranids?
youll get your dick sucked, eventually

Just pretend he's a Marines Malevolent.

technically all sm were marines malevolent back then

>liability
Guardsmen aren't counted on to win, they're counted on to die buying whatever time they can for the real problem solvers to do their work.

60 Marines can get more done than 10,000 Guardsmen. Not to mention every Imperial force will be an amalgamation of several groups at once.
Again, IG are there to be bodies, not to win the battles themselves. If they do then good for them, but it's not counted on for major conflicts.

Go put down some minor rebellion, Cadian, that's what you're good at.

None of this is real. The "Marines" and "Guardsmen" exist to sell childrens toys not "win battles." Just shut the frick up already.

>buying whatever time they can
Female soldiers don't buy time, they sell it. Again, liability

>human males and females becoming closer in physicality after generations of selective breeding on alien planets?
Where is this from?

>it will always be seen as silly
Dear boy, are you familiar with the IP Warhammer 40,000?

>Evolution?
Oh, so head canon.

Have you ever been physical with a woman? Pegging doesn’t count. They cannot perform physical tasks as well as men. Why take this fetish woman of yours over another man?

And even this fetish muscle woman will fall short of an average 40k man. Touch grass ma’am

>doubles down on his autistic "people-can't-like-things-I-don't-like" mentality
Don't worry timmy, no one's taking your toys away from you

They still have gear to carry and obstacles to get through. Women cannot do either of those tasks as well as a man. Touch grass

Grandpa escaped from the nursing home!

Time to be put down, old man

Women aren't soldiers.

thats not fair
since its all about scale
in that universe humanity might as well be bacteria for how numerous it is
ofc the death toll would be relevant to that

Good thing 40k is a science fantasy setting and not real history, with practically no basis in real history.

No they don't. GW's writers fricking fail on scale and numbers all the time. The Siege of Vraks was supposed to be super duper bloody with a casualty rate of 2K a day during some of the biggest battles, but real WWI dwarfs that.

Remember when GW had to add an extra zero to the Astartes legion numbers because having a legion of 10K going around conquering the galaxy was fricking dumb?

>no continuation on the Kaptain and krew's wacky adventures from the comfort of their new rok
Feelzbadladz

I agree TSons make more sense, but ADB has a spergout when people bring it up, probably a manifestation of his daddy issues.

At that point they could also pass off as being descendants of Dark Angels

>Frick ADB
The grand irony being he takes his time to take shots at people who treat 40k as their own strict head canon. Yet he spurgs out constantly doing the same thing.
And cause i know he'll sometimes lurk or have homosexuals report to him. Blood ravens are thousand sons you nightlord loving homosexual. Every nightlord you've ever written had turned into shittest emo character in 40k and you are too moronic to write Big E or the Primarchs and have fricked it up every single time you've attempted, no knee cares about your daddy issues.
You are to 40k what netflix was to the witcher.
>picrel

It's his worst. Basically turns everything that's too bad ass to be explained into some shitty soap opera with the gayest character motivations.

>soap opera
>right up until HH his motives were less whiny
it was literal just belief in a being that was so powerful as to be a God and that a crisis of faith by all powerful creatures that are very good at twisting reality.

Yeah, but they picked the gayest way to express that. An actual demigod being dealing with it from a demigods perspective would have been way less homosexual than doing it from the perspective of a dumb c**t with daddy issues falling for shit that's predictable from the outset.

Kino

Women don't actually exist. Period.

Weird how Custodes are non canon cause DoW1 doesn't have them.

GW hated the squats, half human half Eldar ultramarine librarian and chaos androids because they didn't fit.

But hey we get black guardswomen now because there were some female ""imperial army"" minis in ROGUE TRADER.

The 40k we enjoyed from the 3rd to 7th is gone at this point.

Based Shaniqua Shananay, of the 103rd Glitter Nailed Z-Snaps.

Yes it is, and you're being a silly little libshit b***h for even pretending otherwise. But it's getting that way with people like you turning it into a balloon animal factory to suit your painfully saccharine sensibilities.

Why do you gays love making up backstories for people?
Sincere question.
Post models by the way.

>calls people reddit
>reddit spaces
lmao can't make this up.

It's not a stretch, r/sigmarxist trash are full-blown hobbyist AIDS.

>Not a redditor so don't care.
As if trash can't and doesn't move off-site to spread their AIDS all the time. But I fully expected this answer from someone running the 'play dumb' defense. Your shit is transparent, homosexual.

You really aren't fooling anyone here that you aren't just a salty leftist trying to fit in.

Proving

Notice how these leftyshitters try very hard to fit in by going hard with the insults they think convey value around here. They'll try so fricking hard to flip insults like 'troon' and 'troony' to deflect all while defending games like this with ESG and actual troon writers.

s point

Almost as if xe has an agenda

But they're not in DoW so by your logic they don't exist.

And I am using your logic.
Glad we agree Custodes never existed.

Well you said that only things in the game exist.
So therefore things not in the game don't exist. Like Custodes.

What version of DOW1 did you play that didn't have IG tanks, artillery pieces, valkyries, etc?

Truth hurts huh.

Squats are back my dude. Have you not been paying attention at all?

also why not just make the kids soldiers too? they only last 5 minutes anyways so it doesn't matter!

They do pretty frequently yeah.

>female soldiers
>female rapemeat
Which vision of war do you think feminists (non-appreciators of grimdark) prefer?