space marines?
cringe jobbers who can't get anything done that need to be babysat by their daddies coming back.
LEAVE
CHAOS
TO
US
space marines? cringe jobbers who can't get anything done that need to be babysat by their daddies coming back.
space marines?
cringe jobbers who can't get anything done that need to be babysat by their daddies coming back.
LEAVE
CHAOS
TO
US
I would like an aos game in the style of ninja gaiden/dmc
This except I want to play a chameleon skink going around executing the great plan
GW be like "ey yo what if warhammer was actually world of warcraft"
warhammer fantasy pre dates 40k
also warhammer fantasy is better than age of shitmar
warhammer fantasy is gay
actually, all fantasy is gay moron shit.
dude, MAGIC lol.
And? World of Warcraft predates Age of Shitmar, and it's pretty obvious what AoS took as its inspiration for setting and art, and it wasn't Warhammer Fantasy.
>warcraft was originally meant to be a warhammer game
Shit, we've gone full circle
gw really fricked up when they turned down blizzard
You say that, and yet they made age of sigmar to copy wow. ironic how that worked out
yeah and it didn't worked out the game was a flop and they have to rush like crazy to try and salvage it
warcraft was never going to be a warhammer game. when they were planning the game one of the developers suggested it but they decided against it because they had poor experience with licensed games before and went with their similar but legally distinct version.
WHF not selling nearly as good as 40k
>reboot WHF as age of sigmar so you can make it more like 40k
And in a decade or two when 40k sales are down they'll reboot it to make it more like AOS.
why would they do that when UK hobby shops fire sale AOS shit all the time
>neglect property
>wonder why it's under-preforming
>scrap it and mash the parts together into a shitty knockoff of your more successful property
>this angers the few fans it still had and pleases nobody
>some games come out that reignite interest in the old thing
>have to shamefully backpedal when your realize that people cared about it all along, you were just tunnel-visioning on your other property
CA saved warhammer fantasy
Correct. Vermintide helped too.
They did and GW learned literally nothing from it
I'm party convinced by this point that GW despises 40k and its fans and only does what it does because that's the only thing that floats their company. GW is a pozzed company straddled by an IP about catholic space nazis genoiciding aliens and fighting demon trannies from hell, they would shitcan the series in a heartbeat if they could get away with it.
Ans we're getting some sick ass new content because of it, i'm a massive dweeb and have been reading through some of the new wfrpg stuff and it's pretty frickin' cool.
Shame the old world is gonna be a shit show guaranteed. Scalpers, weird mish mash metal/resin models, and completely missing the point I imagine.
>Ans we're getting some sick ass new content because of it
We are ? Are they retconning the end times ?
No. This year they made an official article saying End Times happens 100% of the time and no alternate reality can change it becsuse it's one of "those" timeline events
The stupid thing is some of the age of sigmar stuff could easily have just been dropped into fantasy if they were so desperate.
It's so odd to me that I am still not entitely sure what the frick the setting of AoS is supposed to be. The neat thing about fantasy was the layers and history and easy to latch onto characters.
It wasn’t neglect secondary. It was model bloat. No one liked 7th edition and its hordes hordes hordes nonsense. 8th really didn’t do much to fix it and then they wasted all their money on a tomb kings refresh without making tomb kings not unequivocal garbage to play.
I got into warhammer fantasy years later through blood bowl and the books. Is there a stage thats even further out than secondary?
I got models but I paint em for fun.
Tertiary is the word your looking for, Tertiaries are the standard 40kids who only know lore from YouTube videos. Fantasy is pretty exclusively secondaries now since anyone with an army moved on to other games, my lizards got moved to round bases for AoS as an example.
I dunno how to feel being assosciated with those chumps but I spose that's how it goes.
Also nice on the lizards, you mind me asking what you think of their new minis?
are pen and paper RPGs secondary, or primary?
Secondary. They aren't even made by GW and aren't any more connected to the wargame than average vidya.
Real conandrum would be side games
>They aren't even made by GW
>pen and paper RPGs
LMAO
First editions of 40k and WHFB RPGs were made by GW and only then given to other studios like FFG
I doubt he was asking about the old editions and as you said they gave it to other studios
And each book made by other studio was beggining with GW statement that these books are canon as GW's codexes
Black library books are also "canon", but reading them doesn't make you a primary. Watching painting tutorials done by GW doesn't make you a primary either.
Top fricking kek.
Being paypig doesn't makes you a human
Playing FIFA doesn't make you a football player and your fat ass's advice on how to properly train before a match are nearly worthless. That's the main issue with secondaries
>and your fat ass's advice
>doesn't understand algories
Which 3rd world banana republic are you from?
>algories
Allegories or algorithm?
If not liking AoS makes me secondary, I will gladly accept this label.
I will be there with PnP chads and TW bros eating the good stuff and ignoring modernity.
post the REAL Taric.
I like the new one, although the Original was amazing too
>Partaking in the hobby (painting models, making narratives, playing the actual game, etc) = Primary
>Partaking in secondary media (books, video games, movies)= secondary
>Being a loretuber gay, watching those weird 40k pop culture videos, etc= tertiary.
Good to know! Gotta keep up to date on my terminology
what about making mods and developing tools for warhammer mods? If you play Bretonnia, there's big chance you're using my mods.
I'm not a homosexual so that seems unlikely
Was louen stacked..? Not sure I recall that bit.
it's experimental, not in workshop yet. currently trying to fit in daniel parts on bret lords. also I'm working on animation editor for asset editor.
Interesting concept, do you too dream of suprassing the slaanesh dragon mod?
yep. the problem with daniel parts system is mount animations don't play well with it. I have to edit the animations manually and the existing tool doesn't work with warhammer 3.
(file too big, used troonycord to post the webm)
>slaanesh dragon mod
What mod?
Miao Ying corruption mod
Oh, that one
I prefer the RAA ROO one
If you play the game you're secondary, if you somehow don't that's some new level is disconnect
obviously I play the game, otherwise why I bother reverse engineered the game files?
>not red duke mod
>some bara shit
definitely not
Based Louen after taking the chalice as a suppository instead of merely sipping from it
i have a whole room dedicated to painting warhammer stuff and a 3D printer just to add to my moronic collection and i think this post is moronic
you don't need to waste a ton of money on plastic like i did to be a fan of the series, you are a fan of warhammer if you play it in video game form, TT or even reading books from it
quit trying too hard to be le epin gatekeeper
>quit trying too hard to be le epin gatekeeper
GW are too greedy to spare few more pounds for additional FPS
->
>trying to gatekeep warhammer
it's already popular. it's not the 90s anymore. there's no one left to gatekeep it from
I’m a quartenary, I only consume 40k content by posts on Ganker
Memes are still tetriary
Just because they were pumping out models doesn't mean they weren't neglecting the IP. As you just pointed out, they didn't bother to update the rules or the armies in a way that actually would continue to work and sell, they just figured they would pump out shit like Ubisoft pumps out open world games and rake in the money. That is neglect.
Being unable to salvadge a shitty ruleset without compleatly erasing it (like they eventually did) isn't neglect. Not when you get dozen new kits per quarter consumming resources
>Being unable to salvadge a shitty ruleset without compleatly erasing it (like they eventually did) isn't neglect.
Actually it is. According to Gav Thorpe
>neglect property
Several kits every 2-3 months isn't neglect
Don't frickin remind me of Isle of blood. Had a chance to pick up a few minis from my flgs, they had a case where you can get individual models like 1 dollar a piece and I missed out on the skaven commander and warlock engineer.
>scrap setting the same time as the series most popular game ever blows up
Yep, that's Gamesworkshop decision making
>Kill all my named characters
>completely frick my lore
Age if Sigmar is what finally freed me from giving money to games workshop, so I guess it did one thing right
Why does he look like Dante?
>dante invented face helmets
yes
I hate Sigmarines so fricking much
Last time anyone trusted your lot to stop chaos the world ended and a rat got to be a major chaos god.
At least Chaos' chosen got clowned on by an orc, that was funny.
>Fantasy Space Marines
You cant just mash shit together and hope it works. Warhammer has an extremely detailed setting based on history and mythology.
How the frick they thought this would end well for them is beyond me.
>You cant just mash shit together and hope it works
But it does
Age of Smegmar is printing mad money
Age of ZOGmar is shit, i prefer warhammer fantasy
We have land marines at home, it's called grail knights.
kek what a pack of elven slaves
seethe, empc uck. Your god is fake, a mere hobo, your sequel is pozzed crap that nobody likes outside warhammer paypigs.
Say that in range of my rocket artillery, simp.
>maxed out phys resists + missiles + ward save
what now?
Final transmutationx1000
the horsegay fears the pointy stick
eight lores of magic to back them up, too
Grail knights demolish chosens with ease in the latest update, you're stick is a small time.
Chosen are fricking jobbers m8
Chosen halberds that are braced
>the man who ruined everything
the end time showed that Empire managed to survived that long thanks to its plot armor. Even with said plot armor couldn't save the Empire from the sheer moronation of its inhabitants
End Times is not canon
>t. Skaven skeptic
T. Archaon
Get krumped, nerd.
That was Mannlet's fault, as usual.
why is balthys sword so fricking lame?
he's a mage it's for show
both empgays and britcucks get memed on by norschads
norscum gets mogged by chaos
shut your jobber ass up
yes yes cope seethe simp cuck skaven chads dab meme on you
now here's a guy I can get behind
Are there skaven in AoS?
Yes. All the WHF fantasy races are present just most of them had their names changed. Also The Horned Rat replaced Slaanesh, or Tzeentch, I forget which one, and is now the fourth chaos god. The other three bully him though.
>skaven are in
I will now learn about Age of Sigmar
Same
Horned rat didn't replace slaanesh. He was welcome to the table after his help destroying the old world. Slaanesh got extremely fat gorging on all the elf souls that he had to go into hiding to digest. However the new elf gods that survived found slaanesh(thanks to tzeentch guiding them) and captured him, imprisoning him in a small hidden realm in between 2 of the major realms hysh and ulgu(light and shadow)
However slaanesh is still active and doing behind the scene shit while being jettisoned.
Thank you for listening to my Ted talk.
Its funny how desperate GW is to bury slaanesh due to the bad parallels to certain groups.
>Its funny how desperate GW is to bury slaanesh
They aren't Slaanesh is kept in store for a future a big plot involving a new range of dark elves and slaanesh units.
Sure anon, any day now they'll bring back the coomer models.
Witch elves aren't coomer enough for you?
What world are you living in? He's been the most shilled Chaos god for quite some time.
>becomes integral lore piece to the whole elf specie
>has more meaningful in army divides than other gods
>his freedom is the current goal of the Everchosen
>got more new models than Nurgle and Tzeentch and Khorne
>gets to create ultra special greater daemons GW calls his children that no other chaos god has
>>got more new models than Nurgle and Tzeentch and Khorne
Wrong
I ment in AoS, Emperor's Children being neglected is a different issue. Slaanesh has a mortal wava and demon wave in AoS, Khorn got only a mortal wave and N/T have single muxed wabe each. Nurgle gets carried extra by End Times
>Slaanesh has a mortal wava and demon wave in AoS,
So as other Gods
Tell me about the big Khorne releas after his starter set debiut. Or Tzeentch getting something outside of the Silver Tower Tzaangor craze, or Nurgle outside of the demons+pusgoyls releas. Slaanesh demon refresh with Syll'Eske and Mortal wabe with Glutos were two separate releases.
>inb4 1 off heroes count as waves
>ell me about the big Khorne releas after his starter set debiut.
World Eaters range.
Oh yeh, can't wait to play Angron in AoS
AoS is 40k junior brother.
>have army book
>have tons of new units
>have storylines
>have new characters
How is this buried?
His information is a few years out of date, there was a time where GW wrote slaanesh out of the AoS plot and set up the Ynnari to kill him off in 40k at the same time. Since then obviously the range got updated and the Ynnari stuck in limbo.
like most secondaries.
if they actually were part of the warhammer fan base they knew at least basic stuff.
is there a good warhammer fantasy game that isnt 4x strategy garbage or the l4d clone
>No Warhammer: Wild West
Fricking hell
god, age of cringemar needs to frick off forever
Surely the total war trilogy must have made heaps of cash. When was Sigmar created, around the first game or so? Maybe they realized they fricked up thinking regular fantasy interest was too low when clearly people like it and simply require a good medium to indulge with it. 40k painting works because the characters are enormous and you can color everything from their guns to the metal of their armor. Fantasy would look ridiculous with that level of freedom as it's more down to earth with full plated knights being the biggest deal humans can offer, maybe a steam tank.
Total Warhammer made so much money it made GW bring back Fantasy
>Age of Smegma
I like how they based this off the starter box that they made too fricking many of.
My flgs was clearancing those frickers down to 70% off just to get them out.
Me and my friend went 50/50 on one just for stuff to practice painting on.
>Age of Sigmar
>Hey look at these big ass ground marines.
>Look at these sky dwarfs
>Look at these super elves.
>All the coolest parts of Age of Sigmar is just all the OC shit in the Mortal Realms No-mans-land.
How did this happen?
Because ground level shit is always more interesting than god like beings flailing around at one another.
Just look at how chuffed 40k is
Probably helps that the Mortal Realms works like the galaxy does in 40k, being so big that you can basically just do anything.
There's a book about a nation called the Lantic Empire that fought Chaos when Sigmar was still hiding behind his walls and they basically went down swinging until the stormcast showed up.
If you play Slaves of Darkness, Cities of Sigmar, Ourruk wartribes, or Gravelords and like to play narrative armies then you're basically playing an open RP version of Warhammer and I'm actually for that.
The side shit is typically the more interesting. It's why Vermintide is so cool, just seeing shit from a normal perspective (even if the characters are death machines)
>The side shit is typically the more interesting
Same reason MS Gundam has a thousand fricking side stories. And thank God the writers of those side stories have the good sense to keep the white base crew out of them.
The stakes are higher, at least from a participants involvement and on a narrative level, I mean. Stormcast fricking up means the mortal realms end, sure, but that will never happen unless they're going to make a 3rd game to replace AOS.
Stormcast basically have the two jobs. Go out and reclaim land for Sigmar, or defend the Realmgate from defenders. The big Chaos factions like Blades of Khorne just want to kill Sigmar and spread the rule of Chaos. Shit like that.
A Dwarf, I'm not calling them Duardin, army could be venturing into the Mortal Realms to reclaim lost holds from the Khazalid Empire. A cities of Sigmar army might not be aligned with Sigmar at all and might just be using their rule set. Might be defending a kingdom from Chaos or fighting a war of expansion etc.
Even if it is like hammering nails into your dick to play a purely human or purely elf/dwarf COS army.
Vermintide and Total warhammer came too little too late
>all the age of sigmar shit
>chaos warriors rules let you just run an entire army of old fantasy warriors of chaos while mixing in stuff like the newer models for cav
Feels nice being able to ignore all the dumb cosmic shit and just run a warband of a few dozen of these guys and having every battle be a moshpit
I always preferd 40k to fantasy , the latter is just too boring and generic Tolkien fantasy copy paste but honestly generic chaos warriors in fantasy absolutely shit on generic chaos marines astheticly. I wished black legion looked like that.
I kinda like the weird cross cultural exchange in AoS though. You get models like pic related.
>weird
>generic fantasy multiculty
Why 40k will always be superior. There is no multiculturalism. There isn't even any diplomacy. The factions don't just want to kill one another, they want to literally build a specialized space hell so that the souls of their slain enemies may rot forever in the abyss. Humanity hates xenos so much that they would happily annihilate themselves if they could take every single stinking xeno to hell with them.
Basically this.
No matter what happens with GW nowadays 40k still doesn't scared of to be something more than DC/Marvel in decoration of genrename, so AoS will never have kino banters like Shas'O Kais-Davian Thule or Kor'Sarro Khan - O'Shassera
Everything had to be reduced to saturday morning cartoon logic.
>There is no multiculturalism
you dont know much about 40k
>no multiculturalism
wrong
>no diplomacy
wrong
Correct
Even after blueberry queen return
God that's fricking embarrassing on so many levels.
I know you're most likely underaged and just got into 40k but the imperium has worked with xenos plenty of times. The whole point is they are hypocrites. Also that animation is SHIT jesus.
>has worked with xenos plenty of times.
Yep temporary, not permanent "totally not-WoW-Alliance"
Akshually, many humans live among the Tau, and the majority of humanity doesn't even know what the Eldar or Tau even are. Those are the only three races in the first place that can even interact peacefully.
Imperial government says frick aliens, common human agrees but doesn't really give a shit. If Tau come knocking on an isolated world asking for diplomacy, the local governor usually says okay sure you don't seem so bad. But if the actual human government checks up on that sector, they'll be forced to cease all communications and go to war with the Tau. Also many of the more "experienced" humans who have lived a few centuries work with Eldar through various means.
The process of designing AoS went like this
>We NEED black female Space Marines, with extra Marvel sauce. But if we do it in 40k the fans will riot.
And so Sugmydik Marines were born
Except there wasn't a single Stotmcast showing skin in all of 1st edition. People hating them made "you can't even tell they're humans" on of the main talking points so GW started taking off their helmets. In a way (you) literally asked for this
>Except there wasn't a single Stotmcast showing skin in all of 1st edition.
When I first saw the Sigmarines , I just thought this is some out of season April's Fools joke.
It took some convincing to check out the official channels and realize its true.
Just give them spaceships and they will kill Ork, Tyranid, Tau, Eldar and Chaos.
They already spaceships
During the end times they dident die, after the world was too fricked to save they all got aboard their pyramids and flew off into space
>tfw lizardmen surivie the end times but Karl Franz jobs and dies to literally who nurgle demons
... even a Light Cruiser would reduce their pyramid to cosmic dust
Only two confirmed "kills" aren't even real kills, they just made them unable to fly till someone bothers to repair them. If anything it would have been better if both were just obliterated since coatle's claw ship has contaminated saurus spaw pools still active and pumping out feral murderbots that team killed surviving skins and now run rampant on factory reseted programming and Gnarwood one still has it's terafforming tools operational which already wrecked the region it landed in and could do more harm in the future
They already have space ship, each one of their cities had at least 1
40k is a rip off of dune
and Judge Dredd
Yes, but nobody knew Dune back then do nobody called it out
Is that sequel to Raid:Shadow Legwnd?
What the frick dogshit animation is that
that's what they killed TTS for
the strongest in flash animation
It's sweet Blackrock funds
2000 retro kino
WHY bother with the arrow or the string if they do nothing???
And why does it look like a Bolter?
What the frick is this dogshit lmao
is the arrow supposed to stay in the crossbow?
This is somehow more moronic than the bowguns in MonHun
So there's multiple frickups here
Regular stormcast bolters are never modeled with an arrow or string, it's assumed they just shoot magic bolts or they magically propel bolts. Which makes sense as an actual string would clip through the magazine they're modeled with.
She's using a stormcast castigator grenade launcher though which just use regular grenades you stick in on the front.
So they mixed up two designs and got both wrong.
the one with the guy fricking over the orks was kino
Okay reddit
It's funny how people shit on AoS yet praise 40k when it gets turned into AoS in space.
AoS lacks the nihilism, grimdarkness, and over-the-top and pointless cruelty of 40k. You'd never get something like:
>The witchling's eyes opened wider and she began to scream when the profane artifact touched her skin. It was the scream of a newborn being tortured to death. It was the scream of a child over dead parents. It was a scream of such horror and revulsion as to deny sanity. For one instant, the inquisitor allowed a smile to grace his scared face. He knew to the Exodite witchling that there was no greater pain than this. He crushed the feeling of ecstasy with the cold fury and disgust that had sustained him from his first agonizing memories of childhood all the way through thousands of campaigns and thankless conflict. Servants of the Emperor should have no love save to the Emperor, no happiness save to the Emperor, and no loyalty save to the Emperor. All else was either meaningless or to be scorned.
>The xeno youngling didn’t stop to breathe as she screamed, blood pouring from her eyes and nose, and she did not stop screaming for a very long time. First her eyes popped, and then her head finally exploded like a seismic grenade. Partially crystallized brain matter and neural fluid erupting in a fountain of gore. A blastwave of released psychic energy fading to nothing as it struck against the inquisitor's null aura, covering the inquisitor’s face with the remains of her. The witch's body sagged in the restraints. The inquisitor breathed out a shuddering sigh as he plucked an eyeball from his cheek, and gently brushed the xeno's lower jaw, only held on by strands of flesh and muscle, with his non-mechanical hand. So sweet, yet so short. He wondered if the other prisoners' screams would be as succulent when exposed to the Slaaneshi artifact.
in AoS, because it's so safe and soi.
Also, all 40k protagonists are sociopaths like this:
>The cyborged woman had been thoroughly dismembered. Torn apart not by bladed weaponry but by brute strength. The wounds were rife with aetheric signifiers.
>Alpha-Rho-25 began the process of harvesting her final cognitions, which necessitated sawing through the brain pan and plunging a dataspike into one of her internal cranial connectors. Intriguingly, in all the info-feeds that spilled out in numerical echo of the servitor’s last thoughts, there was nothing identifying her warp-born assailant. She hadn’t been able to make out any visuals of her killer. For all intents and purposes, AL-141-0-CVI-55-(0023) and her cohorts had been firing at nothing.
>There was more -- somehow, the servitor's very last thoughts had been of her human life and the weeping children that had been pulled from her hands as she was hauled away, screaming, on her way to processing for a minor theft she had not committed. Alpha-Rho-25 found the though amusing before discarding the data as irrelevant: a tesiously emotional misfire of a dying, imperfect, and weak biological engine undeserving of the life it had given in his service.
Again, sociopaths are based, but fruit cucks think that hurting others for enjoyment is not cool.
I find Morkz cutting off limbs of captured people and then betting on whichever stump crowls away the furthest more cruel than cyborg getting torn in half
Yeah, but in 40k, it's the heroes doing shit like this. Vulkan, one of the nicest characters in 40k, was still renowned for raiding planets for eldar children so he could torture for entertainment. He especially liked the sweet screams they made, noting that they reacted and sounded almost exactly like human children. AoS would never have one of their heroes doing that shit. AoS would never have Sigmar going around flaying peasant children during a peasant hunt for fun as is standard in 40k. Neither would he set up reproduction factories, or work his citizens for 20 hours per day for no reason other than their misery. The Imperium is stated to be the bloodiest and most cruelest human regime ever, and somehow, they're the nicest faction.
>nicest faction
Taubros…
It's okay
Tau and Imperium loves each other
> Shadowsun held his gaze for a moment. ‘We could have been great friends, huntsman,’ she said, finally. Her armour wavered and a moment later, she was gone, lost to his sight. The sounds of bolterfire trickled off as the tau retreated, leaving Rime Crag to the battered remnants of the Third Company.
> Kor’sarro looked down at the char-stain that marked Cemakar’s passing and nodded to himself. ‘Yes,’ he said, ‘I rather think we could have.’
I wish I had a Taunny wife
Vulkan's child torture fetish is generally regarded as insanely stupid and something that probably only happened because some moronic writer suffering from advanced 'hurrdurr grimderp' brainrot was butthurt about the existence of an unironic good guy.
>Age of Smegmar
>Blizzard-40k rape-baby
>but without 40k aesthetic
>but without Blizzard sexy chicks
>instead you are getting this
Anon Sisters of Silence already do the same hairstyle.
And they're also just as ugly as GW cannot into good looking female face sculpts.
>topknots are the same as haircuts
>Sisters of Silence already do the same hairstyle.
LMAO. Women literally lack empathy so much, that they can't identify as anything that doesn't look like them. Meanwhile, my favourite warhammer shit are egyptian skellies and bipedal lizard things.
Age of sigmar RTS was long overdue. I've wanted this since Dawn of War 1.
now WATER ELVES that's the based order faction
Cool setting but cringe armor design
>AoS
>Good
pick 1
I'm just happy OG Fantasy took off with TW series and it made GW look like a fricking idiot, because it's the most fun TW yet with a very comfy setting
Well the tw games are done. There out of the big factions and i doubt ca and gw are done with the money train and seemed to have an extremely string working relationship meaning i can 100% see 40k games next or even godforbid an aos one
>Well the tw games are done.
There is few more years of TWW3 support.
They recently said they already have something like 3-4 years of DLC plans. Including that stuff like Ind, Kuresh, and Nippon are not off the table. So TWW is fine. The question is what happens after Hyenas finally releases and flops and what they plan to do for their next major title after that.
>End times
>AoS
I AM A HERO, STORMCAST!!!
I just want a Dark Elf Payday/Vermintide clone with fully customizable corsairs.
Players can pick raids in a variety of locations in warhammer fantasy or aos worlds, plundering and pillaging whomever they please.
The rewards always seem top notch, but half gets taken away as taxes and when reaching higher levels the tax gets lower It gets deadlier though
The only fun thing about the End Times was the Skaven blowing up the Morrslieb and fricking Nagash plan.
Well, what is it?
age of sigmar might suck ass, but i think the nighthaunt are pretty cool
You will never be a Warhammer.
LEAVE CHAOS TO US
INFERIOR DARK ELVES
INFERIOR DARK ELDAR
YOUR VERY EXISTENCE IS THE EXCREMENT SLANEESH SHAT OUT!
>Naga rip offs
The stormcast very early on had at least one interesting thing about them. In that Sigmar didn't just used human souls and that a Storm cast in their past lives could have been men, elf, dwarf or even orcs.
But that was very quickly scrapped when they started having them shown with their helmets off.
>jobbers who are reborn everytime they fail
no thanks
Ding Dong 40klets. Superior setting coming through.
stop trying to force age of smegma and go back to /tg/ and keep replying to yourself in that thread
>Total WH3
>150gb
Jesus frick you
It is 3 game's worth of data all smashed together, including about 7 years of DLC. It is one of the few times where the filesize is justified rather than just western devs being lazy.
>AoS thread on Ganker, secondary HQ board
brave
The Greenskins oh sorry, Destruction faction I feel got fricked over the worst. In fantasy it had quite a few infamous characters like Grimgor Ironhide, Skarsnik, Gorbad Ironclaw, Grom the Paunch, and then ogres with Greasus Goldtooth, Skrag, Golggay etc With the other factions they had some familiar people in. I've no idea what's going on with the Destruction side other than they have a beast god in their roster which for a bit of time I thought was a giant Centigor and was a Beastmen aligned character that jumped over to the Greenskins.
So you just never engaged with the setting even on surface level? Otherwise you would know of that big waagh-boss and the gobbo loonking.
They made a new subset of greenskins called Kruleboys who are skinnier
Just say they are Mork aligned greenskins to fill the void left when the night goblins became a separate faction from orks.
>thing i don't know is bad because i never bothered to look stuff up
The only destro faction who got shafted are ogres. Gordrakk is a good "protagonist" greenskin, Skragrott had been a fan favourite since his reveal, Kragnos+Gobspeakk combo has potential but they haven't gotten any screen time since introduction, Brodd is a good pay off to earlier events. Minor side nobodies like orruk shaman pretanding skull of an old boss talks to him from beyond the grave to coopt the boss's WAAAGH or the fake aristocrat gobbo that nominates other gitz as his knights to have them die for him are fun ideas
>Skragrott
Most BASED AoS character. He would fit into Fantasy with ease.
The entirety of Gloomspite fits into WHFB easily given they are basically just an expanded Night Goblin roster with some new troll friends.
Skragrott's skill set would fit, but Bad Moon would wreck the place. And Srag is pointless without the moon to chase after
If he lost his moon, I could see him going on a crusade to find it, or build/summoning a new moon.
The Bad Moon already existed in Warhammer Fantasy. If you open the old Realms of Chaos map it's right there traveling over the realms.
Yes, but it was trapped in the Wapr/realm of souls and didn't have physical impact on the world. I guess you could rewrite things to make Skrag want to releas it, but with no physical impact on anything his shizoidism loses impact too.
Make is goal to blow up Morrslieb for being a fake Bad Moon, so he can then summon the real Bad Moon in its place. Perfect justification for him going around anywhere and everywhere looking for the means to do so.
>Gordrakk
>Skragrott
Literally, who?
>my meme lore youtuber didn't make videos about this so I have no idea who they are!
>redditor crying about youtubers
Oh the irony
Skragrott is a self appointed night goblin king.
Looks like Skarsnik 2.0
Skarsnik wasn't a religious figure, he was a warlord.
Unlike Skarsnik he actually is feared by other greenskins due to being completely insane
I'd say he's the most sane of all the moon's victims. Others just devolve into compleat incomprehensibility, he's just obsessed and looks for paterns in all the randomness.
He's essentially a Cthulhu cultist trying to uncover Rlyeh after big octopus showed up in his dreams.
And?
And what? You want his whole lore spelled out for you? go check it for yourself. He nothing like Skarsnik besides being a night goblin.
>go check it for yourself.
I don't like capeshit
Actually the Moon itself chose him, but he doesn't know for what
The destruction side also have with them giants who are apparently more in line with how giants were when they were skytitans, before the ogres munched on them all.
Chaos still fricked them up with all their attempts at basic civilization destroyed and most of the species being too drunk to do much.
Will the new game be good?
Also will the console controls be 9000iq.
>Will the new game be good?
>RTS made for controllers
RTS in general more or less dead or ultra-niche right because moba exists
I really like the theory that the entirety of WH Fantasy is set in a remote planet in 40k
Aos 2nd edition>AoS 1st edition>AoS 3rd edition.
Grand Alliance: Death and Grand Alliance: Chaos are perfect. The rest is a fricking mess.
The Allpoints should be the Earth where all battles happen and every realm should be an ethereal far away peaceful base like Azyr (Ghur for Gorkamorka, Shyish for Nagash, no intruders).
Then you could actually draw ONE map of the setting
>Grand Alliance: Death and Grand Alliance: Chaos are perfect. The rest is a fricking mess.
>The Allpoints should be the Earth where all battles happen and every realm should be an ethereal far away peaceful base like Azyr (Ghur for Gorkamorka, Shyish for Nagash, no intruders).
Literally who cares?
>age of shitmar
>not a proper dow1 style rts, but a dow2/coh style tactics game
Who asked for this?
They are trying their hardest to get RTS going on consoles.
literally just fricking allow KB+M use on console
that's already how half of MMO players play MMOs consoles, you can just stick in a bluetooth KB and M into the USB ports and it works perfectly on both ps and xbox, it's only a matter of whether the game allows you to use it or not
just add an AI assist to help with the micro tasks with a controller like in AoE2DE on xbox, and let everyone who wants to take the game seriously use a KB+M.
I don't want these Halo Wars-like baby tier RTS games, nobody plays those after they are done with the cinematic story mode.
It's not like DoW1 was that fricking micro intensive either, why the frick can't we hit at least that level of complexity
Total Warhammer unirronically should work on console
they already said you can use KB+M on console.
that's not the issue, you can also use KB+M with Halo Wars2 on console. The issue is them (probably) designing the game with controller first in mind like Halo Wars did, when they should just design it with KB+M and just add assist features for controller. Or at least make full use of a controller like FFXIV does where you can access dozens of abilities and menus with simple button combinations
>people aren't picking consoles for it
again, many console MMO players use KB+M, if you are interested in RTS games to begin with then you are likely fine with playing with a KB+M
>you can just stick in a bluetooth KB and M into the USB ports
Yes you can but people aren't picking consoles for it
It's basically the same situation to DoW3, when Relic tried to fish profits from moba crowd
You realize that 40k is a skirmish game? DoW and it's base building was cringe and had nothing to do with 40k.
but everyone liked it
I asked for more DoW2, but absolutely not in AoShitmar setting
>created AoS
No need to thank me
That was the most moronic thing I had ever seen happen in any mainstream fantasy universe
GW is alright most of the time but fricking hell sometimes the writing is even worse than Blizzard
NAGASH WAS WEAK
>gets placed between Ordertide and Chaostide
Top kek
I'm sorry skragrott fans. But the best aos character is Kurdoss
Sorry but the unwritten rule states that anything related to gayash can't be good.
The whole entire point of 40k is that everyone is in the absolute shitter trying to relive past glories.
The orks who are only as evolved and intelligent as they need to be being silly stupid (but loveable) idiots is testament to this
>The orks who are only as evolved and intelligent as they need to be being silly stupid
>Vangorich watched him go. When he dropped his eyes from Veritus’ retreating figure, he met Bezhrak’s gaze. There he saw something that chilled him even more than the ork’s use of Gothic: contempt. The two smaller orks were amused. They were grinning their disdain for the shrieking puppets on the dais. Bezhrak wasn’t smiling. Vangorich didn’t trust his ability to read ork physiognomy. He didn’t want to trust it. He wanted to be wrong. Because Bezhrak’s contempt appeared to be mixed with pity, and if that were true, what then? What then?
>Bezhrak gave him a long look, then nodded. ‘So die,’ he said. He brought the staff down again with a slam of judgement. He stood still and quiet, the fearsome focus of the Great Chamber.
>Vangorich stared at the beast who had come to the heart of the Imperium and been repelled by the animals there. An ork had become the figure of dignity and, worse still, of majesty in humanity’s parliament. With all honour dead, how was it possible that the ground did not open up and swallow the Palace?
We know the 3rd faction is tzeentch for chaos but I do wonder which one it'll be for death as all 4 death factions could for in nicely.
I'd vouch fir bonereapers as I think they'd fit the game more.
I think you can rule out Flesh Eaters, unless they've been working behind the scenes with GW, because even with a generous attitude to the roster it will be hard to give them enough things
I thought chaos was slanesh
A promo image was leaked/posted with the stormcast fighting an ogroid thaumaturge which is a tzeentch unit.
looks incredible cringe with the hulk women
New to this franchise.
How exactly do humans "keep up" when their enemies are like endless rat people with literal nukes and machines guns and giant monster abominations, immortal vampires, 8 foot beastmen with 15 foot specials, 8 foot killer orks, prehistoric lizard people etc etc
And men have..... archers and unicorns? Logically how do they stand toe to toe with these other races?
Men have dyke Space Marine
faith
steel
gunpowder
In wfb? They had guns and everyone just agreed to not attack them too hard out of pitty.
In AoS? They actively work with elves, dwarfs and lizards plus have bigger guns and revers chaos warriors
Because humans in this setting are tenacious as frick and also as crazy as the rest. They have things like cogforts and go on crazy crusades.
Pic related is pretty much how a crusade starts.
So they are discounted Imperium?
Imperium rules the galaxy, the 2nd biggest force after it is just rebelious Imperium and they mostly fight eachother.
They actively work together with other races instead of shunning and alienating everything and everyone.Heck there is a story of humans and skeletons working together to repel and defeat nurgle demons led by a great unclean one.
Unfortunatly there are no decent AoS games at all. one or two mediocre ones but nothing that would sell you on the setting.
Also youtubers are not the way to go either as they mostly regurgitate wrong info on things.
Your best bit is to go on 1dGanker and read articles there but even then im not sure if thats the best option.
Total war warhammer is based on the setting before it got replaced by AoS. The original was obsolete but gw is bringing it back as a side game run by their specialist studio forgeworld. The sanguinary guard looking dudes are stormcast. Warriors that during the age of chaos ,when chaos invaded the new realms, were taken away from battle or other glorious ends by the god Sigmar and transformed into magic warriors imbued with the power of lightning. These heavily armoured warriors are immortal as once they die with explode into lightning to return to the forges of Sigmar where they are reforged and sent back to fight. However each time a stormcast is reforged they lose a part of themselves and become more and more like automatons.
Total war warhammer rewrites the end times lore and is different from the whfb end times lore.
GROUND MARINES
The lore for this series is so interesting to me but I have no idea where to start with this. Any decent games you can recommend that covers story well?
Fantasy is dead , the ended is
AoS is shit and nobody cares
>40k
Frick off were full
>Frick off were full
Too late, I've already ordered Azrael and his moronic gun along with Deathwing companions box
can someone give me a rundown on Age of Sigmar
is Warhammer Total War based on AoS? Did the original become obsolete or are they now making figures for both worlds? How does this work
also who are these Sanguinary Guard looking dudes
Warhammer Total War is based of Warhammer Fantasy battle which GW killed off at around the same time TWW1 came out and they replaced it with Age of Sigmar
what about TWW3? Does this series just keep continuing a killed off version of the game?
>Does this series just keep continuing a killed off version of the game?
Basically yes
Total Warhammer is based on the original Warhammer Fantasy
GW concluded the 'story' to WHF and stopped printing around the release of TWW1, but the rising popularity of WHF (and general flop of AoS) due to games like TWW1 and Vermintide has made them start selling models and reprints again
AoS is less a persistent world occupied by countries and races and more of a string of 'realms' that basically use portals to meet in the middle and fight over no-mans land.
>Total War ends with Archaon winning and killing almost everyone.
>Ruins of the world try to heal themselvs but it just results in 8 worlds each tilted to one of the 8 magics.
>Survivors rebuild
>Chaos notices it hasn't finished the job
>comes back and beast up everyone again
>defeated Sigmar makes lightning warriors and stuff while hiding from Chaos
>when stuff is ready he counter atracks Chaos with his new toys
>acctually wins now
>now it's just a long road to kicking Chaos out since they still control most of the world
To add a note, during the End Times of Fantasy, Chaos were actually on the verge of losing. Thanks to baldy von Carsteins last second betrayal however (he didn't want to serve Nagash afterwards) things went breasts up for the defenders and all that jazz happened after that led to AoS, where Mannfred serves Nagash....
Total war is based on the first warhammer, when it wasn’t selling worth shit, GW scrapped it. After backlash from the guys who owned fantasy armies, they shit out AoS. 1st edition AoS was barely a game, AoS 2.0 comes out and is among the best rulesets GW ever made (MESBG still #1). Lorewise after fantasy ends the universe explodes and the winds of magic turn into infinite layers of wafer cake that the souls of everybody live in. During this “wow we live in a magic cake now” period Sigmar goes around and meets the other gods and fights these giant animals called god beasts. Tyrion, Teclis, Alarielle, Malekith (named Malerion because of a Disney lawsuit) have become gods and they locked up Slaanesh in a cave. With the 4th chaos god in jail they give his old job to the Horned Rat. Eventually skaven dig into the magic cake worlds by accident and eventually the other chaos gods follow. All the chaos gods conquer everything except a few of the realms who have stronger gods (Nagash, GorkaMorka, male elf gods). Sigmar gets the other gods to team up since everyone hates chaos, eventually Nagash betrays them and everyone fricks off to go play civilization. Sigmar says frick it and starts putting souls into suits of armor the dwarf god made for him, and decided to name the current year after himself. Nagash is pissy because his deal was souls belong to him, he makes his own suits of armor (bone instead of gold) and stuffs souls into them. Gorkamorka sees this and makes his own suits of armor and stuffs orcs into them. Nagash jobs, Morathi tries to become a god but aenerion hits her with the no way gay, Slaanesh gives birth out his ass. Eventually a bunch of literal whos start digging into an old beastman mountain thing and wake up a big centaur god who joins with Gorkamorka. Not to be outdone Kroak let’s Sigmar know he’s had dragon eggs this whole time and gives sigmar some dragons. Lore is somewhere around here now.
Post models or kys
>Aos Mentioned
>40k and TW players come out of the woodworks to shriek and cry and throw shit at everyone
>Few AoS players are just taking their time to explain the setting and are just happy to talk about their hobby.
Are Aos players actually just chill dudes?
>Are Aos players actually just chill dudes?
Nowhere close
eh, every community has their deranged mentally ill people that need to be put down. just look at the zelda community.
>eh, every community has their deranged mentally ill people
In case of AoS it's majority, this is why among all general thread on /tg/ only /aosg/ adhering sub-reddits rules and don't have it's own MEGA repository for books
>/aosg/ has a mega for years
>tww children angry at tww3 being a mess reporting it an mass as sone weird revange
>/aosg/ switches to different file sharing sites
>>tww children angry at tww3 being a mess reporting it an mass as sone weird revange
>source: my ass
Whenever 40k-AoS discussions were takling place in 40kg 40kg MEGA always was reported and killed in a few hours
Literally just ask for a pdf and it gets posted the mega kept getting doxxed you moron.
oh, thats because every time /aosg/ tries to get its own mega repository running it gets reported to gw by the other generals and closed down.
I like how for some reason even though aosg keeps getting hate raided by other communities, namely whfb and 40k, aos takes the blame of being the autists. just really weird to me.
since we are getting a place in ghur, will the campaign take place in thondia?
They showed the same "muscle trees" as Gnarlwood has but i don't think they're unique flora to that spot
>continents in the shape of jaws
Gald to see AoS haven't moved far from Mortuary factory
Ghur is basicslly a less extream Zendikar, the lands actively attacks eachother. The whole clusterfrick of fractured islands around Andtor is a wound
>extream Zendikar,
Who? And how it's relevant?
Zendikar, the /tg/ posterchild for living landscapes
and?
STEP ASIDE CRINGECAST
THE REAL PROTAGONISTS HAVE RETURNED
Is that supposed to be Howling Banshee?
I played fantasy from 6th though to when it ended
There is a very good reason that game died, even if I did love it dearly. AoS started out weak but its doing pretty decent now, I don't like centrepiece wank but GW's been pushing that across the board now especially now that primarchs are back for 40k.
I personally love mass units and using the movement trays and everything but frick me was it a chore to paint all those minis, and with the way prices are these days getting into WHFB in the modern age would make other tabletop hobbies look like a joke. That and after a while the battle line gamplay got stale, I can see why people wanted to move on.
The mortal realms is also a far better setting than 'not earth', took me a while to shrug off the nostalgia of the old world but I did eventually, the realms are far more exciting.
why do demons in 40k need heavy weapons to take down but in fantasy some peasant with a bow an arrow can stop them?
The idea is that less people=weaker chaos, since chaos is just reflection of people
Marines are weak as hell.
Here's a to scale representation of a veteran space marine next to some random choas human
>Orruks
At this point it's straight up a different species, so i don't get the seeth here
why was Magnus so fricking moronic?
He's Turkish like Big E and all the other Primarchs
Magnus was pretty based. He saved the empire in the great war against Chaos.
>hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder why there's a psychic barrier where my father is.... what's this, this ominous being is offering me power to take down the barrier? Of course I'll take it!
Literal brainlet
Sir this is a Fantasy and AoS thread.
Not a 40k thread.
Magnus is based.
no one likes fantasy
>Sir this is a Fantasy
How so?
>and AoS thread.
So it's 40k threead as well
>How is Fantasy and AoS the one in the same.
Because AoS is the sequel setting to Fantasy?
>Because AoS is the sequel setting to Fantasy?
I cannot remember Fantasy having bolters and Eldar wraithbone armor
That's the Pious in the picture
Top contender for silliest looking headgear.
I can't decide if GW just copied some obscure manga or their thought process went like
>oh shit we killed elf atlantis what now
>uhhhh elf Crete?
>BRILLIANT
GW should start painting their skin yellow to let brainlets like you connect them with Asia
We have a good version of Hashut!
I had never played a Total War game, ever. I keep seeing the 3 TW Warhammer games on sale, are they any good for newcomers? If so do I buy all 3 or just the last one?
Only 2 is good. 1 was ok. 3 is shit.
3 haters are so annoying
AoS is so fricking boring and bland...
Skaven are literally the only fun part.
40k is the better setting and it fricking shows
I will not play Shitmarine games
Is there anything like cute Tau girls in WH fantasy or AoS?