Spain regulated lootboxes

Get in here!
>loot boxes being defined as Random Reward Mechanisms (RRM)
>RRM == "when the activation of the reward mechanisms costs money or other virtual objects acquired with money directly or indirectly"
>also affects NFTs and crypto
>physical and virtual advertisements for RRMs regulated and forbidden outside of gaming related websites; radio and TV advertisements are forbidden outside of 0100-0500 timeframe in the morning
All games containing RRMs
>age restriction to +18
>ID card verification mandatory
>% chances disclosure required
About fricking time for another domino to fall...
We might finally be on the way to get rid of this cancer once and for all.
inb4 sauce
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/spain-crack-down-videogame-loot-boxes-blamed-pathological-behaviour-2022-06-01/
https://www.xataka.com/legislacion-y-derechos/quieres-comprar-loot-box-saca-dni-espana-va-a-prohibirlas-a-menores-tiene-sistema

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Basado
    Frick gachatards

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

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      Mega moron
      western AAA with mtx(the most predatory type of them all) already moved to multi-tiered battle passes for a long time now
      This changes nothing.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Ok, where I can learn in detail about this? Do you have a good resource? I don't play any crap with such systems

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Install Fortnite or Rocket League. What you pay, you get. Blizz clinging onto lootboxes/RRM has always come off as passe.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        you can't genuinely think that lootboxes are less predatory than battle passes

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          battle passes are infinitely better than loot boxes and you have to be moron to think otherwise. BPs in every single game i played were all 10 bucks max with a free version (albeit gimped), you have everything there infront of you so you can decide beforehand if you wanna buy it or not. Not to mention that they also contain tiers with the game's currency that's equal to the BP's pass, so you can just buy a BP once and keep milking the next ones just from 10 bucks. Gacha on the other hand, you can spend thousands and not get what you want. The only problem BP's might have is that you have to play the game to unlock shit but if you're gonna buy it, you probably already play that game a lot and think it's worth the money unless you're a moronic impulsive buyer, a richgay or the devs fricked up the game with an update mid season and you dropped it

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >instead of paying and get something you pay and grind for it on top
          >also completely frick up the F2P progression because the values are tweaked to incite you to buy the BP every fricking patch as a means of player retention, literally enslaving players
          And you tell me this is somehow better?

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >fines from 25,000 to 100,000 euros
    That seems pretty low, unless it's a fine per day until they fix/remove RRMs or something.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Progress

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Baste, but Spain is pretty much a third world country that no one gives a shit about
    if we want this garbage to end its gonna have to be illegal in relevant countries, like Germany, the UK, and specially China
    > inb4 muh china bullshit
    listen Black folk China is the biggest market for this kind of shit. you kill it there, its GONE.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      go have a nice day

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >third world shithole does thing
      who cares

      I wouldn't say Spain regulating lootboxing should be underestimated. They are no Germany/France/US, but they have a sizeable population and they are not a small player on EU stage either.
      Afaik, Netherlands, Belgium and now Spain regulated lootboxes to different degrees. Many countries, such as UK, were looking into regulating lootboxes for some time now.
      It's clear that we are seeing dominos falling and other countries will most likely.
      I might be talking about of my ass, but I'd be surprised if we will not see EU wide regulation, be it on the EU or national level, in a few years, max. 2030.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >but I'd be surprised if we will not see EU wide regulation
        They've already ratified a directive that will neuter crypto ponzi-schemes and NFTs. This is just the logical next thing - and rumor has that it's already been in the works for some months now.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Sizeable population doesnt mean that much if your economy is in fricking shambles. If it wasnt an European country, it would already be latam tier.
        Honestly, if we got EU regulation to fix it it would be a wonderful step, but you gotta aim for the bigger markets if you want this to end. Spain, or even the EU itself, isnt exactly a big market.

        [...]
        Classic burger mentality
        Just because we speak Spanish doesn't mean we have anything to do with thirdie latam shitholes

        literal baboon brain, I'm not a mutt. Spain hasnt been relevant in the international scene for centuries now. As I've told the other anon, if Spain wasnt in the EU it WOULD be a latam shithole whether you like it or not.
        Take your head out of your ass and stop thinking "muh country" is actually worth shit. Its not. It doesnt have the economic, political or even social stand to be relevant anywhere.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >if Spain wasnt in the EU it WOULD be a latam shithole whether you like it or not.
          Spain wasn't that even before the EU, under dictatorship.
          You are a delusional burger that severely overestimates the effects of the EU.
          For countries like italy it was a straight up net less over the years.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You are literally moronic. Look at the fricking economic markers. Spain would have had to default at least 2 times already if it wasnt because of the EU money.
            Under dictatorship it was very much like a latam shithole in terms of literal poverty.

            >I'm not a mutt
            Even worse, literally no reason to be so ignorant then

            [...]
            [...]
            What even is this
            Jealousy? Stupidity?

            Use your brain every once in a while. Tell me again how is Spain relevant in social, economic or even political terms. I'll tell you how so you dont strain your braincells: the only thing Spain does that merits attention is the fact that it is a fricking filter so that less africans get to Europe, and even that's a stretch.

            >law against minors gambling on loot boxes
            >mutts screaming 'irrelevant third world country!!1'
            >latam accent > muttified spanish accent lulul
            >China, of all places, bans Diablo Immortal because it's just too depredatory. Let that sink in.
            The state of murricans.

            La encularía sin dudarlo.

            [...]
            The law is made for Spaniards, they do care. Why would anybody else care?
            China banned Diablo Immortal. Do I care?
            We can be oblivious to the world and only care about our own dick and keep scamming kids and turning them into gambling addicts.

            I kinda care about China for a single reason: as long as this garbage is profitable, corpos will still do it, and gaming itself will suffer the consequences. You cant be shortsighted about these things. I get your point, but you're just kicking the ball, and it will come again.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm not a mutt
          Even worse, literally no reason to be so ignorant then

          Actually Latam are more Spanish than you. The language they speak is closer to the original language of Castillo, you speak a shitty muttified version of it.

          You're still third world and barely part of europe.

          What even is this
          Jealousy? Stupidity?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Jealousy
            Of what? The most limp wristed country in Europe.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >What even is this
            just butthurt sudacas as usual bro

            >Jealousy
            Of what? The most limp wristed country in Europe.

            coming from a failed narco state lol

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Fricking mexicans and brazillians will never stop seething about spain and portugal.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >or even the EU itself, isnt exactly a big market.
          It's the third largest market for games in the world; topped only by China and the US in absolute units sold, but sells at a higher price point per unit which puts it more or less on equal footing with the US.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Literally every fricking time without fail. You hispanics and moors are completely buckbroken by Iberian Chads.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >third world shithole does thing
      who cares

      Classic burger mentality
      Just because we speak Spanish doesn't mean we have anything to do with thirdie latam shitholes

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Actually Latam are more Spanish than you. The language they speak is closer to the original language of Castillo, you speak a shitty muttified version of it.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Wey weon la wea aweonao
          >the original language of """Castillo"""
          What a joke of a post

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          we wuz

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous
        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Actually Latam are more Spanish than you
          Just look at the language, its just bastardization of the spanish. Infact, if you didnt know, what went to america "wasn´t" Spanish, but castillian, sinde spain wasn´t yet an actual country,

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          please have a nice day paco
          >t. Hispanic living in castilla y león

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >concreto
          >computadora
          >"n-no, you're the one who's muttified his language"
          tira a freír espárragos mamón

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            of all people in this fricking thread I can perfectly pinpoint who is the spaniard
            you needed more "coño" tho

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You're still third world and barely part of europe.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I can tell you're a seething latin american, you're a cucked conquered people
          seethe thirdie

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Spain has been a member of NATO since '82.
          They're literally first world.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      With this Spain is joining the Netherlands and Belgium in cracking down on lootboxes. Infact; the Netherlands is in the process of revising its legislation for lootboxes which up to now is aimed at regulating them as games of chance, and wants to up the ante to outright banning them. The motivation in the official paperwork is literally the fact that EA managed to find a loophole to overturn their fine for FIFA FUT packs in appeal. So yeah; good work on signing your own death-warrant on that one EA.

      That makes for three countries within the EU sofar. In Scandinavia, the governments are also looking at options for regulation or banning, following a scientific study from Sweden that has had major backing from all across Europe.

      Meanwhile, France and Germany had both declared years back during the Battlefront 2 drama that they would adopt a wait-and-see approach and would likely follow suit with whatever other nations would decide with over time. So you can expect them to close the rank and file as well, pretty soon.

      Also - China has been clamping down on online expenditures for games and online gaming in general for some time now.
      And even Japan itself, where "gacha" originated, has had its bouts with regulating some of the more outlandish aspects of lootboxes.

      Basically - the US is the only relevant market in the world which HASN'T been showing signs of wanting to regulate or ban these toxic business practices. Which is ... just so quintessentially American, if you think about it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I aggressively avoid games of this sort, but I'm pretty sure most are marketed towards teens and young adults, so it just falls into a "it's your own fault for being moronic" zone. Same deal with all the real casinos we have, they're ways for white trash and the ultra wealthy to throw their money away. There was public outcry back when smartphones were first going mainstream because kids were spending thousands of dollars on their parent's card from mashing microtransactions, which I believe led to some greater regulation on ease-of-purchase (though I believe they're mostly ad-based nowadays).

        If other countries get a lot of international praise for this, I can see it being pushed by politicians in need of some good boy points. It is fundamentally not the government's place to tell people what they can and can't spend their money on, though, so it'd be easy to lobby against until serious studies prove that it's harmful.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      t. spic

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Spain is a member of NATO
      >Third World
      Do you even know what third world means my moron one?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        If you think it means non aligned country you're a thirdie.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        > i have to go to a very literal definition when the use of the term "third world" for underdeveloped countries has been a staple for years, even in common spanish
        If that's your only defense, its kind of weak, but you know what, I'm willing to take that one back and say OK, I retract the "third world": its still a poor, dependend and irrelevant country.
        Like it better?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >a poor, dependend and irrelevant country.
          that describes all of latin america

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            and also spain, of course.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              spain is one of the top countries in the world in quality of life, healthcare, life expectancy. no amount of cartel sudaca seething will change that, sorry

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            True. Also Spain.
            I honestly dont know why you frickers think its some sort of gotcha and immediately say "its spics!".
            It might be because they are the only ones that still give a frick about Spain. Normal countries dont think about you, except maybe as a retirement home or the place to go get drunk.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Europeans are obsessed with Spain, the opinion of non-europeans (subhumans) doesn't matter
              Also how is irrelevancy even a bad thing in the modern world

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Sometimes I think you dont even live in your own country.
                No european is "obsessed" with Spain. Some of us like the fact that its cheap to live and the food is good, but the fact is that europeans see spaniards as you might see non-europeans. Honestly. Get the frick out your village. You need to see the world for what it is.
                > how is irrelevancy even a bad thing
                fair point, however, there will be a moment where you're gonna need to be respected as a country if you want to get yours, and ask yourself: how high do you think Spain is in the list of priorities of the EU?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                puro cope euronormies love Spain
                >how high do you think Spain is in the list of priorities of the EU
                higher than most countries in the EU, that's good enough

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You mean, they love to go there on vacation? yeah its still cheap as frick. Dont delude yourself, Europe only gives a shit because the EU knows that another country leaving would rock the boat enough to break it.

                there's absolutely NO fricking way you are european
                >its cheap to live
                either you're a 100% shut-in homosexual or you're a moronic american, i'm not even gonna read the rest of your post

                Shit, you really ARE poor and stupid. A decent salary on a decent country is 3 times what the average spaniard worker makes. With 3k euros you can easily live like a fricking king even if you're renting.
                > muh Madrid and Barcelona cope
                yeah, of course, big cities are a bit more expensive, but outside those places you can perfectly live with 1k.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >normies like going to Spain because they love spending their time there, but they don't actually like it
                you sound like an absolute moron

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No, you buffoon. They love getting drunk, going to the beach and eating the good food for cheap. They dont give a frick about the country itself.
                Or do you actually think they care about the customs and the people?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                yes moron, young people do that shit everywhere, in France, Italy, Spain or anywhere they go on vacation
                Even if what you're saying is true, the opinion of most normies towards spain is positive
                go outside more lmao

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                there's absolutely NO fricking way you are european
                >its cheap to live
                either you're a 100% shut-in homosexual or you're a moronic american, i'm not even gonna read the rest of your post

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >poor
          4th highest gdp in EU
          >dependend
          every country depends on others, what the frick are you even trying to say?
          >irrelevant
          stay fricking mad sudaca lmao

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            > muh gdp cope
            look at how much the common worker earns and how much debt you have, moron. you owe more than you'll be able to pay, and unlike mutts, you cant literally print your own money
            > dont even know what dependent means
            it means you would be neck deep in shit if it wasnt for the fricktons of money the EU still gives you, and even then, you still manage to be nothing but "build house, serve beers"
            > obsessed with south americans
            must be sad that only they give a shit about you. "h-he knows a bit about Spain and knows about its economy, it has to be a spic!".
            If you actually think northern europeans see you as something other than cheap labour you are fricking deluded

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I heard Spain has about the same GDP of Russia, just so you know.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >China is the biggest market for this kind of shit
      It's one of the most regulated one
      Half the israeli shit you see in the global/western release wouldn't fly there

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        True, but also, its where it generates a huge chunk of its revenue, and thats what matters, more than regulation.
        Everything is monetized there, the only difference is that the money goes back to the CCP due to their ownership of shit like Tencent.
        I honestly dont like China, but they've been smart with their economy.
        Take (sigh) Diablo Immortal as the example. It was 10000000% marketed for the chinese, but some based troll decided to nuke it by using the Xinnie the Poop meme and now its expected revenue is gonna take a huge hit.
        It wont kill it, ofc, but it will hurt it enough.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Spain unironically has one of the largest economies in Europe. They are trying hard to destroy their country though. For whatever reason they want to be third world.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao at all these seething replies. Complete morons that think this shithole that hasn't had sovereignty since 1978 is ever going to be anything but the testing ground of social engineering and a country of putas y camareros for the OTAN, while Morocco's twink king marries one of Leti's prostitutes.

      You mongoloids are going to have a really hard time adapting to the reality of your beloved socialism and being used to being a poor cesspool like south america, but don't worry, getting your facemasks tighter, with more escudo social, resiliencia, riqueza ecológica and keeping appareances by going to the bar despite barely having enough to survive through the month you'll survive somehow. Sarna con gusto no pica, país de subhumanos gilipollas.

      Worse natality and divorce rates than Japan, btw

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Thats the US already
        They dont need us as testing anything

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        t catalan
        Spain is based when you take it easy
        Maybe emigrate already go be a good slave to germany and stop shitting on your own country
        Nobody likes you and you are not smart by pointing out "my country sucks wah wah"
        Seriously this shit was already pathetic in the 80s

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Spain is actually quite a big player in the video game market in Europe. Might not say much, but it`s far from irrelevant. Also they make some pretty fricking good games as of late, so we`ll see

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Also they make some pretty fricking good games as of late, so we`ll see
        Such as? Only played Blasphemous and Aragami 1

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Metroid Dread, Souldiers, Neon White was directed by a Spaniard i`m pretty sure, and The Last Faith, which looks very promising(i know, made by italians, but i just wanted to mention it anyway because of blasphemous influence)

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    nice now regulate your clearly corrupt videogame journalism

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >third world shithole does thing
    who cares

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      FIFA in shambles

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      but no one is talking about the us anon

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Las prioridades

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They been talking time to time (almost nothing) for a handful of years, so it's more a "and we did it at last" than a priority.

      >la creatividad

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Fricking kek'd.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    good, hopefully more countries follow suit until lootboxes get removed from games.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >la creatividad

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    After Netherlands, Belgium and Spain, chances are more countries will have similar laws over the next years in the EU. Spain is just one more small step.
    The argument to keep minors away from shit gambling companies is quite sound.
    Probably many of these shit games won't be released in Spain anymore at all in the future, because the companies don't want to deal with the law, which is good news.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Then we can finally have fair real online multiplayer games again as days long past, all it had to take was a major franchise(Star wars) to expose these practices

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >finally have fair real online multiplayer games again
        Besides Battlefront 2, what games actually used loot boxes as p2w? I'm under the impression that it's all cosmetics.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Obviously a bunch of mobile games have a PTW system but if other European countries start outlawing more they might have to reconsider how they make businesses for these games such as only real money for cosmetics or better yet, don’t make nearly impossible levels then tell you “buy this and you’ll be guaranteed to movie on to the next one.” If your forced to pay then there’s no fun. It’s humorous that xenoblade 2 has a faux gacha system (there’s no money involved whatsoever) that while excruciatingly difficult to get everyone it’s more worth it through effort, basically unlockables

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What do Spaniards think about Mexicans?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      We like imitating the Mexican accent when we pretend to be sudacas, even if it doesn't fit. Some good food though way too fricking spicy, but some tasteless gays are into that ofc. There are hotter Latin-American women, like Colombians or Dominicans. Personally, I'd drill DarkWaifuTrap's ass to Oblivion if I had the chance.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >law against minors gambling on loot boxes
      >mutts screaming 'irrelevant third world country!!1'
      >latam accent > muttified spanish accent lulul
      >China, of all places, bans Diablo Immortal because it's just too depredatory. Let that sink in.
      The state of murricans.

      La encularía sin dudarlo.

      Sizeable population doesnt mean that much if your economy is in fricking shambles. If it wasnt an European country, it would already be latam tier.
      Honestly, if we got EU regulation to fix it it would be a wonderful step, but you gotta aim for the bigger markets if you want this to end. Spain, or even the EU itself, isnt exactly a big market.
      [...]
      literal baboon brain, I'm not a mutt. Spain hasnt been relevant in the international scene for centuries now. As I've told the other anon, if Spain wasnt in the EU it WOULD be a latam shithole whether you like it or not.
      Take your head out of your ass and stop thinking "muh country" is actually worth shit. Its not. It doesnt have the economic, political or even social stand to be relevant anywhere.

      The law is made for Spaniards, they do care. Why would anybody else care?
      China banned Diablo Immortal. Do I care?
      We can be oblivious to the world and only care about our own dick and keep scamming kids and turning them into gambling addicts.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >keep scamming kids and turning them into gambling addicts.
        Just like videogames are turning kids violent, right?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Are you implying people don't waste millions in gacha shit because they are literally addicted?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Why to people pretend like those people don't have agency.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Who is pretending that? Did someone say they have no agency?
              It still is bad for the videogame business and the populace to engage in such practices.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >China, of all places, bans Diablo Immortal because it's just too depredatory. Let that sink in
        I heard they did it specificaly cause someone from Blizzard took a jab at Xi in Twitter, and considering previous cases I can believe it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Breeding material
      Also mexicans are hot

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Lootbox games will simply jump out of Spain, they can afford to as there is too much money to be made elsewhere

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >lootboxes causes "pathological behavior"
    >oh but videogames don't cause violence lmao
    Really makes me think.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody cares about spain

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Apparently The Pokemon Company does

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >>ID card verification mandatory
    Frick off with this shit already christ

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's mainly to keep kids from becoming gamblers or, more importantly, from grabbing their parent's credit cards and spend €5000 on FIFA.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        So you think we should have stricter laws against porn too, because that's turning kids into porn addicts.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine the neighbour's child is a porn addict and he jeezes all over your leg, hahaha.
          Maybe give him $100 so he fricks off back to the mobile screen to open some Azurlane boxes.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You don't find JAV or porn movies at Steam or Google/Apple stores.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          If necessary, yes. Before I'd say just installing any safe measures on the family's PC to keep them from watching porn but with kids becoming more tech savvy and having smartphones on them at all times, harder measures must be considered.
          And I speak from the experience of having like 2 porn videos on my shitty mid-2000s phone and some mags when I was like 13 then getting a PC and fapping 3-5 times a day like a crazed monkey to whatever I found. And that was mid-2000s porn, who knows what kids these days watch with all the BBC hypno troony shit floating around.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Porn is already being regulated implicitly by the credit card companies. In the US, I would not be surprised if porn is regulated before loot boxes.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Most kids start watching porn and tugging their pps at age 11. They are literal porn addicts.

          https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/understanding-addiction/202202/what-know-about-adolescent-pornography-exposure

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, it's for the children that you must show papers when They ask.

        It is for safety. The safety of the children.

        You WILL show ID.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >No Hungary involved
    this sound like a false flag.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    JODER U GOT A LOICENCE FOR THAT??

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

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  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    friens please
    both Spain and (most of) LatAm are based

    because they are not Anglos

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Real question not trying to troll how if at all does this law affect TCG/CCG like Magic or Pokémon?

    Because I hear these companies use baseball cards as a defence all the time I may as well hear how this law would work at all on cards

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >regulate gaming features that offer prizes with an economic value in a real or virtual market and that can be resold or exchanged
      Physical cards would not fall under "gaming" here because they mean specifically video games. Stuff like MTG Arena might get fricked over if they have any exchange.

      My question is would this apply to STEAM trading cards? Because technically the game costs money to acquire cards, but they aren't a videogame in themselves, more of a feature of the already existing market.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      As far as I think, physical trading cards are not "lootboxes", they are just a collectible item. Those cards are for you to keep, even if the game stop existing.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        This falls apart when you think about it for more than 10 seconds though, as you can still allow for people to resell digital goods (see csgo) and tcgs are just as scummy on rates with them not being public info at all

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah well, In spain is illegal to resell a football match ticket, but people does it anyway, just attach said ticket to... lets say, a pencil, and sell the pencil, with the "and get a xxx match ticket free". I dont have much hope in this shit, besides being another try to grab more power from the goverment. But well, one can dream

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    matadors are really sexy, there's something about them, even though bullfighting is cruel
    no homo

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw no matador precision combat game

      Kys spaingay, your traditions are not welcome in Mexico and America.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, you prefer to behead people.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Don't know why foregein are obsessed with the Narcos while i eat pizza and coca cola everyday i litareally live like an america here in Mexico

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >i drink coca colshit every single day
            dude you mexis need to lay off the israelite sugar water, it's literally killing your people

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              jokes on you i drink without sugar.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              better live fast and die young my eurotard friend.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        don't worry our culture is already there
        it has been for like 500 years

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw no matador precision combat game

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Steam release when??

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >nephew (12 yo) has mobile phone
    >he's addict to tiktok and fornite
    >actual medical case. His studies are sinking and will have to repeat grade
    >why the frick parents gave him a mobile. Mayor regrets at the family.
    >suddenly, big credit card bill from google playstore
    >parents immediately think he stole their credit card to spend on fornite
    >drastic measures. No more mobile, no screen.
    >kid acts super autistic from there on, borderline aggressive
    >after investigation from the bank, it was a third party credit card theft, completely unrelated to the kid
    >hilarious
    >give the mobile back to the kid
    >kid returns to being an autistic mobile addict

    Fun, but the kid is a lost cause, gacha or no gacha. You have to go hard and stop potential morons from hurting themselves. Parenting isn't easy.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      damn, when i was 12 i was addicted to regular diablo ii, and that was bad enough that my parents had to intervene. and this was before the days of fricking money lootboxes

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >18+
    >"Mommy buy me fifa 2022"
    Dumb law unless they're going to sit down and shit all over RMM to the buyer

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The language is great .
    You can use it to convince other countries to do the same

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    those regulations are fair.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It never gets old all the seething any mention of Spain creates in any thread, it's fricking hilarious

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Spain gays needs to be punished for creating proles and mestizos

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Amazing what one country can do. I was in a Ganker thread with the resident Moorish schizo posting his genetic memes this morning. Despite the relatively small presence Spanish posters have on Ganker. They manage to make just about everyone seethe uncontrolably. There must be something in the paella.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ok so the game devs will just make you pay for a dungeon where you kill piss easy enemies and you get 20x the rewards. They do that already in Diablo Immortal if I'm right

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >also affects NFTs and crypto
    >games RRMs
    >ID card verification mandatory
    This isnt about lootboxes
    This is a step to control what is accessed
    Just escalate this and you already have verification for online connection and activities

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >youll need to verify youre an adult to post online
      YES, finally
      Everything else can be accessed via Tor, finally gatekeeping normies

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The thing is that it's essentially seen as gambling, and anything related to gambling already requires you to register with your ID in Spain by law.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >i-i am not a cuck!! a-at leats not YOUR cuck o-okay!!!

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Portugal do us brazilians a favor and follow suit.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That doesn't really do anything

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    its good because the "free market" has failed/become corrupt and this is now necessary.
    its bad because its a blow to personal agency and one step closer to complete government control.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So, those who are already 18+ don't care, and those below can ask mommy/daddy to pay or use a VPN.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I went on holiday to Spain once and there was a crazy amount of women in their 20s/30s and teenagers walking around topless or in extremely revealing outfits.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I should add this was in 2007 so I dunno if its still like that

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      did you grab any of their chests? if they walk around topless they're esentially asking for it

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No I'm reserved and polite.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      When and where in Spain? Depending on that, it's pretty normal to wear less clothes when you're hitting 40ºC on average, especially foreigners who come to party and get fricked and can't stand the heat.
      Oh, and it's only gotten worse, as everything.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It was 2007 summer. I forget the name of the place I stayed but it was a holiday destination type place

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So a shift in how it works.
    Just sell 'common quality' loot for set price, and incorporate a level up mechanic that evolves your loot randomly when you clear a dungeon or something.
    The purchase is clear.
    The rest changes based on gameplay.
    They'd have to legislaye rng out of games completely at that point.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i think this is what they want.
      removing the dopamine rush further and further away from the point of sale.

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >loot boxes being defined as Random Reward Mechanisms (RRM)
    spaniard here, there's no way be came up with such a nice acronym in english, let alone our politicians

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Random Reward Mechanisms
      Any game with any kind of randomized loot would fall into that category. Not only the paying ones.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The definition states that it has to have monetary payment, either directly or indirectly

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        read the definition of rrm in op.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Read the Spanish article, my man
      >En este primer texto se define las 'loot boxes' como Mecanismos Aleatorios de Recompensa (MAR)

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Are there many girls like Dafne Keen in Spain? How easy are they to get along with and talk to?

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >ID card verification mandatory
    JAJAJA

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      oh didn't you hear? a conglomerate of private companies have banded together to create a privately run blockchain to run their homebrew digital identity scheme on, all juuust to ease the process for you, goyim!
      https://alastria.io/id-alastria/

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What's worse, passports managed by corrupt govs or that?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Not him, but I'd say the corrupt govs is better.
          A corrupt government wishes to control you if they have police state/dictatorial tendencies. The other wishes to control you and sell you to the highest bidder much more often than a corrupt govs.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            there is no practical difference between an all-powerful corporation and an all-powerful government
            they are the same thing

            I read the initiative, the idea about your own identity is good, it would cut off the power of govs about your resume and curriculum, but giving control to third-parties is a massive red flag and be a submissive control to them.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Also, keep an eye on Web5.0

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I didn't read about it, but I would like to point out that there should be some mechanism in place to prevent people from giving access to their identities and information freely.
              Just look at how people easily sacrifice their privacy and any personal information for free just for a convenience or to get a few dollar bonus at a shop/establishment or something.
              If there is a way to make money out of your information, there should be a clear, robust way how to prevent any idiot from easily giving away their own information.
              Do not forget, control also means responsibility and honestly most people are too moronic to think for themselves far too often.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          there is no practical difference between an all-powerful corporation and an all-powerful government
          they are the same thing

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I disagree.
            They are completely different beasts with different ideologies, values and more.
            A futuristic megacorp is imo far more cancerous than any hypothetical dictatorial regime.
            While both might treat their people as disposable numbers, one of them at least doesn't do it in the name of the insatiable dopamine rush from making more money if they can squeeze just that last drop of worth there is still left in you.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              i dont care if one is worse than the other, they're both in my way of becoming the supreme emperor of the world and thus all megacorps and dictatorial governments must burn to ashes!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, but if you had to chose, I would much rather live under a supreme god emperor than under a directorate with byrocracy and legal hopes up your ass.

                >forbidden outside of gaming related websites
                Does that mean people who shill gachashit on Ganker can be prosecuted now? We're technically an anime website.

                >Ganker exists
                >not gaming related
                It's joked about a lot, but come on. While it would be amazing to kickout gachagays, we are sadly not that disconnected from video games that we would be given a free pass on this.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It's a joke because there's no way to regulate shilling and boting of online communities and we're not hosted in Spain anyway, but having a sub-forum for gaming doesn't make you a gaming website. Otherwise basically every site with a social element could be classified as such.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                BUt here, afaik, people are not shilling the gacha part from any game, just the game itself. Its like they ban fifa.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                That's like saying that telling people to go to the casino isn't promoting gambling, just taking a trip. If there's gacha in it, advertising it is advertising gacha.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                THats your opinion, wich in fact is wrong. If you enter a casino is for the only reason to gamble.. You can enter a game and not spend anything on gatchas (no matter how hard the developer pushes them)

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    nice, good on you, fellas

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >game no longer available in Spain

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >no FIFA in Spain
      Our youth would riot for this

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't you hear?
        EA lost the rights to Fifa.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah but they'll keep making games, right? Just under a new brand, it'll be the same shit.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            yep
            but dont underestimate how importanr brand names are these days.

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >forbidden outside of gaming related websites
    Does that mean people who shill gachashit on Ganker can be prosecuted now? We're technically an anime website.

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Would Spain be Northern or Southern? Isn't it kinda in the middle?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How is spain middle?
      It's literally in the south, what do you consider southern europe, Morocco?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Either south or western, depending on how you want to divide it. "Middle" aka Central Europe is Czechia and that area.

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    ctrl+f
    >me cago en tos tus putos muertos
    >0 results
    sorry but this lootchain is a ruse

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >spain is based
    >spics and the guys who confuse spaniards with hispanics cry
    Everyday business

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >RRM == "when the activation of the reward mechanisms costs money or other virtual objects acquired with money directly or indirectly"
    >directly or indirectly
    So let me stretch my legal definition interpretation here. Lets say I'm playing Vermintide 2 and at the end of my run I get my standard loot box. Now, the lootbox itself does not cost money, but it is random. And while I did not spend money to get to the lootbox, I did spend money to get the game in order to gamble on a random drop. Does this law affect Vermintide under this definition?

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Castellano > español

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You are not from Castilla, you're not from Spain, keep coping "weon"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You are not from Castilla, you're not from Spain, keep coping "weon"

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Castellano > español

        spainbros, it keeps happening

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >troony sudaca has to make up shit when it is like 3 shitty spanish translations vs 200 pathetic sudaca ones
        Instead of seething 24/7 you could try being less poor and pathetic, Homero.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Cope tio

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            ok carnal

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous
              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Worst of all is that he sounds like a homosexual (like any other argentinian anyway)

                What´s wrong with it?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >argentina
                >white
                Falklands are british.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                KEK
                Imagine going around seething like that when your homeland looks literally like this.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Mundi Comics
            >cómics Vertice
            >adultos
            Are these distributors or knock-off companies?
            Afterall, I son't thik Marvel would have balls to put adult stuff and that Lobato guy has a alightly diffeernt mask from Lobezno/Guepardo

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Mundi Comics
              Its like vertigo to DC, just there to show that said comic is from america.
              >Subsello que aparecía en los tebeos del sello Vértice y que indicaba la procedencia de la licencia de Estados Unidos, sobre todo de la editorial Marvel (aunque también Vértice editó algunos del sello DC bajo este distintivo, y otros tebeos de procedencia francesa, como Zembla, o británica, como Mytek)
              Or in google-burger because Im lazy right now
              >Substamp that appeared in the comics of the Vértice label and that indicated the origin of the license from the United States, especially from the Marvel publishing house (although Vértice also published some of the DC label under this distinctive, and other comics of French origin, such as Zembla, or British, such as Mytek)

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >getting mad at it
          Don't, it's hilarious that these guys lack self-awareness and keep pushing for this forced meme while oblivious to their own shitty translations.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You are so incredibly stupid you can't even translate correctly a simpsons joke, jungle monkey.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              My man, you're barking at the wrong tree.
              "They" are the ones pushing the forced meme of the bad translations, who do you think I'm talking about?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        fake and gay unlike picrel

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous
  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm neither spanish nor south american but the seething in this thread showed how many south americans post here

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >muh children

    gambling can go frick itself even for adults. you don't need to sell anything randomized, especially online.

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Whats this autism about Spain? Americans don't care, Canadians I'm pretty sure don't care why is mexico so angry?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The root of all problems is ultimately socialism. It fricked up the once prosperous south ametican countries and turned their vile against their relatively unfricked daddy. Now the cancer has extended even there and commie wienersuckers are ruining the parent as it ruined the children.
      Why are ""people"" so fricking stupid that vote those utter homosexual cucks into power is something that defies the rational mind.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      ex spanish colony duh

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >All spaniard men sound like homosexuals.
    >All spaniard women sounds delicious.

    Why is this?

    Pic not related

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      probably because you're a gamer

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No, gamers are morons and literally Black person tier.
        I'm a videogame enjoyer.

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    ostias tio

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you're not any better

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I love many other comedic cop movies kept the Y donde está el X naming, even if they weren't by Zucker, Abrahams and Zucker.
        Thwy used this naming sheme for the Wayans's White Chicks, turning it into "Y donde están las rubias". Becausae of that I thougt the original name was "Where the blondes at?"

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  58. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The spirit of Franco yet again terrorizes the israelite.

  59. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that spanimoors pronounce the word "iceberg" as "ee-zeh-berg.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No moron, we dont do that.
      In spanish the word iceberg exist.
      https://dle.rae.es/iceberg
      Large mass of floating ice, broken off from the pole, protruding part of the sea surface.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >in Spanish the word iceberg exist
        Yes and you pronounce it like shit.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          We pronounce it like we want, its our language, not yours. Other thing is that you dont like it, but in that case frick off.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Well, iceberg is not your word.
          Pronounce it right, you filthy moor.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Meant for this lisp rilled homosexual

            We pronounce it like we want, its our language, not yours. Other thing is that you dont like it, but in that case frick off.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              We pronounce it right, our way, just like we pronounce chocolate our way.
              Also, why aren't sudacas aware that when you call us moors you call yourselves half-moors? Every insult bounces off us to hit you on your faces, morons.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >amerimut thinks that if the words are written the same they must be pronounced the same
          No. Which is pronounced "no", btw, not "nou" like in english.

  60. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  61. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >spain thread
    >thread devolves into seething and muh dubs

  62. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Both are wrong.
      At least the meshitcans keep the "B'.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Both are wrong, but at least spanish has some sense on it, because her personality and color scheme. A fricking acorn is brown.

  63. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Can all of you Mexican sudacas be less sudacas like your tv stars novelas or Argentina vecinos ? Your indegenous features are disgusting. Gracias.

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