ackshilly sweaty, that's sex.
and kids have no business being sexed. it shouldn't be in a kids game.
Choosing your character's biological sex is different than choosing an imaginary descriptor that can differ from your character's biological reality.
>Games go back to be Boy or Girl
[...]
Incredibly disingenuous, choosing the character's sex is not the problem and never was.
Pandering to the bottomless mental illness of genderspecials with preferred pronouns and 'body type A/body type B' selections erases biological sex and asks the player to accept the ludicrous idea that it's a mutable social construct.
TL;DR frick off
Who is Coping here you troon? The only ones I can see are the disingenuous homosexuals that pretend that you wouldnt be pissed and offended If games asked for your sex rather than your pronouns because your genitals mismatch your virtual self-visualization. Freak
This, but lets not also forget that the same people that think this is a dunk against the pronoun crap where reeeeing out at this very image because there was only a binary choice.
>pronouns are superfluous
And there you go anon. It's such a non-issue, yet people choose to be outraged by it.
I think issues with gays now are blown out of proportion, they have the same rights as everyone else, yet people lose their shits over pronouns.
I don't get how it triggers you and others.
It's basic courtesy to just go along with what people ask of you nicely.
If you meet a blind person, would you just start talking about how good it is to see? No, of course not. You'd be courteous and avoid any subjects that would upset them. Pronouns are the same, I don't have a problem if someone asks to be called something, doesn't change my personal beliefs or anything.
If Sun Ra came up to you giving you his usual spiel about how he's Jesus from Saturn do you think it's "basic courtesy" to go along with it and address him as such?
>It's basic courtesy to just go along with what people ask of you nicely.
Unless you have a very good reason not to do so, such as the understand that you are perpetuating a harmful delusion and, effectively, lying by doing so.
Also, >ask of you nicely
That's hilarious anon, it truly is. I don't think I've ever seen a troony ask nicely, at best their pronouns are asserted with the assumption that compliance WILL follow; otherwise compliance demanded and failure to comply is met with attempted punishment.
> I don't have a problem if someone asks to be called something, doesn't change my personal beliefs or anything.
The issue is how authority insists on people being required to do this when it goes against their personal belief.
One set of beliefs is being promoted over the other.
>I don't have a problem if someone asks to be called something
Please refer to me as 'my liege' from now on. I feel very upset about my social status and lack of agency in life.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I feel very upset about my social status and lack of agency in life.
We know, anon.
We know.
I identify as Napoleon. You may refer to me as "L'empereur" or "Your majesty".
3 months ago
Anonymous
You realize that I'd actually do this for you if you were serious about it irl and not just being an obvious douche? We'd all think you're an unfunny fricking moron, but I'm sure people would absolutely accommodate you in this way.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You realize that I'd actually do this for you if you were serious about it irl and not just being an obvious douche?
NTA, but at least you're consistent I suppose. Most people would find that utterly ridiculous and refuse, or acknowledge that they are participating in a blatant falsehood to humor someone who is deeply mentally ill.
You can understand why someone would feel that way, yes? Why they might, rightly, find it important not to acquiesce?
Because that's how most of us feel about calling a man 'she'.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I can understand why someone would feel that way, but not the importance.
Also who is "us"? Can you even name ten people that you personally know if I were to have you do that now?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I can understand why someone would feel that way, but not the importance.
Because saying something you know not to be true feels like a lie. Because, as shown at
>It's basic courtesy to just go along with what people ask of you nicely.
Eat shit. Oh, sorry, I mean eat shit, please.
it's a little humiliation each time and it erodes at our sense of probity.
FWIW, anon, despite it rankling, I was mostly on board with accommodating people and calling them what they wanted to be called. Before it started being a requirement. Before not doing so would lead to villification and social, perhaps even physical reprisal. Before society at large and 'experts' began to pretend - and expected me to pretend - that the delusion was real, and that biological sex didn't exist. Before 'It's such a small, effortless thing to do. Can't you just be decent?' started being employed ad nauseam to push inexorably further down that road. Then it became very important not to comply. >Also who is "us"? Can you even name ten people that you personally know if I were to have you do that now?
I won't, but I could, yes.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Can you even name ten people that you personally know if I were to have you do that now? >If you don't dox yourself and your loved ones right now, I win the argument
Sorry, but I identify as having won this and any other similar argument between us, and I'd appreciate it if you acted in a way that reflects that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
the actual reason is because you assume they are lying, and 99.9% are just doing a bit/fricking with you.
but some people do actually have such bizzare personalities, and guess what? They actually do end up finding people who approve of them and live out their lives with their weird ass behaviours usually without too many problems, just because you dont know any doesnt mean they dont exist.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I wouldn't, and I'd find it insulting that you'd play along with my delusions if I ever got to that state. I don't find any virtue in humoring delusions. That's just treating someone like they're inferior beings that can't handle the truth, much like how we humor childrens' delusions that Santa Claus is real.
If I have food in my teeth, you help me out much more by telling me that I have food in my teeth than telling me that my teeth are clean.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'd tell you that you have food in your teeth, not stand on the table and yell "LOOK AT THIS FRICKIN butthole WITH THIS SHIT IN HIS TEETH HE WILL NEVER HAVE GOOD TEETH LMAO"
3 months ago
Anonymous
But I'm not demanding people not acknowledge that I have food in my teeth. I don't think I'm some sort of being that can never have food in his teeth and try to get others to believe that is the case.
Conservatives get mad when you tell them lies
Progressives get mad when you tell them the truth.
3 months ago
Anonymous
How many actual transgender people do you personally know that are demanding this of you? For a political party that talks all day about psyops and using voiceless minorities as populism pawns, you sure love to place the blame on 1% of the population themselves, rather than their self-appointed advocates.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>How many actual transgender people do you personally know that are demanding this of you?
Why do you keep trying to atomize this so much? These demands are being made on a macro level, across all of society, by multiple groups. The mechanisms are in place. If you deny a trans person in your personal life, they or somebody else can easily leverage those mechanisms against you. The demand is implied, and so is the threat of force.
Just like you know a police officer is making a demand backed by force when he nicely asks 'Can I have your licence, please?'
3 months ago
Anonymous
I blame them and their advocates, and trannies are also advocates 99/100 times. I'm usually pretty Libertarian, but it's gotten to the point where I genuinely wish the government would ban transgender surgeries like lobotomies.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>actually helping someone indulge in unhealthy delusions
You are part of the problem. I hope you don't go near children, you could be harmful to their psychological growth.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why do you keep mentioning children? When have you ever cared about children? In what way have you given back to your community of children? How much have you donated towards making a better life for children? How many children have you raised/fostered yourself?
What is with your obsession with the sanctity of children?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I literally never mentioned children before. Also, I'm a teacher. Even I weren't, even a weeb porn addict who keeps himself to fictional chldren are less harmful to actual children than you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
There is absolutely no shot you're a teacher. Is this what adjuncts are calling themselves these days? lmao
3 months ago
Anonymous
Kek, I HAVE an adjunct, and he is a fine person, thank you, and I don't think any less of him as a person for being an adjunct as you do.
It's always funny how fast you guys go from "you should do the basic human courtesy of indulging people in their delusions" to "oh, he is <a completely normal job>? His opinions literally doesn't matter and should not even be given basic human rights.".
3 months ago
Anonymous
What basic human rights has he been denied?
Also, much like you feel about trans people being harmful to children, I think you shouldn't hold the position you supposedly have as a teacher while regularly browsing websites like these and hiding behind a mask professionally.
Your dishonesty and manipulative behavior that got you into such a position signal a MUCH greater threat to my child than some random jobless crossdresser.
3 months ago
Anonymous
By that very same logic, your children need to be taken away from you because you’re clearly a child molester for visiting this website.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That logic doesn't hold because I'm not a professional put into a position of influence over OTHER people's children. You're completely betraying the trust that each parent and faculty member places in you by default, because you're obfuscating your degeneracy by pretending to be someone you aren't for money.
3 months ago
Anonymous
So do you think teachers can’t go to a bar?
Your logic is based on a moral panic that all teachers must be certified by an authority and held to a specific standard.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why don't you let your kids know about your bar antics during your next lesson and see how their parents take it and find out yourself?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I’m not a teacher, moron. I’m asking you a simple question: do you think teachers shouldn’t be allowed to go to a bar?
3 months ago
Anonymous
> because I'm not a professional
clearly lol. why should non professionals even be allowed to have kids anyway?
3 months ago
Anonymous
The frick-
Who the frick is you?
3 months ago
Anonymous
If someone identified as Napoleon and they were cool Id respect that
Remember that old kings and emperors used to say they were Gods'/Gods' descendants
>It's basic courtesy to just go along with what people ask of you nicely.
I'll go along with it when they start asking nicely instead of demanding me and threatening my livelihood if I don't comply
>It's basic courtesy to just go along with what people ask of you nicely.
No, it's not. Not if that thought is harmful. In this case playing into people's delusions is harmful to said person, and them expecting you to pander to you because they told you to do something is disrespectful of them because you're forcing your own ideologies onto said person who may not agree with them at all.
The amount of seethe this man has caused to trannies all over the internet makes him a hero by default. I literally don't even know who he is and I don't care.
The only "people" who use the terms "bad" and "good faith" are colossal turbohomosexuals who either know they have zero ground to stand on or constantly feel the need to be the victim. Frick you.
have you only noticed that israelites and israelite enablers don't care about facts? it's all a show to convince people to take ~~*their*~~ side.
I don't see how leftists denying science in favor of something they made up is any different than the conservative religious nuts they claimed to hate just a decade or so ago.
Gender vs sex is chromosomes I was born with vs how I feel comfortable living
science says this is a real thing and not made up
but Ganker doesn't seem to acknowledge this point and always argues over whether hormones have any downsides or whether trannies pass or not, as if this is the most important thing about them
ironically that's trans inclusionary radical misogyny because it concludes the most important thing about a woman is how she looks unlike men who are usually given a pass on their looks
but how is science proving gender is a real thing and not just a semantic exercise people made up? The studies on happiness and quality of life that you cite are completely arbitrary based on made up concepts of what constitutes happiness, not hard science.
>but how is science proving gender is a real thing and not just a semantic exercise people made up?
gender just means sex-stereotyped behaviour, and if you read more than a tweets length you'd know it acknowledges cultural differences and subtle nuances of the topic of gender expression, gender euphoria etc >you cite are completely arbitrary based on made up concepts of what constitutes happiness, not hard science.
nah thats bullshit and you know it
3 months ago
Anonymous
>gender just means sex-stereotyped behaviour, and if you read more than a tweets length you'd know it acknowledges cultural differences and subtle nuances of the topic of gender expression, gender euphoria etc
Makes zero sense. If I don't conform to my sex-stereotyped behaviour I don't become a woman. I may just be a man who likes dancing over football or whatever. >nah thats bullshit and you know it
How is it bullshit? You can look up the methodologies of those index and see that what gets counted is arbitrary and decided by each individual research group, this is why for example you have different "quality of life" indexes with different results.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Makes zero sense. If I don't conform to my sex-stereotyped behaviour I don't become a woman. I may just be a man who likes dancing over football or whatever.
That's a philosophical fallacy, but fact of the matter is dysphoria is something you can be diagnosed with and gender euphoria is something that can treat it, which involves expressing yourself and being treated as your gender. >How is it bullshit? You can look up the methodologies of those index and see that what gets counted is arbitrary and decided by each individual research group, this is why for example you have different "quality of life" indexes with different results.
Because you can apply that standard to just about everything, stressed alchoholics are miserable? Just subjective bro. >How do you know that?
The same way I know Ganker gets triggered by bestiality in BG3, estimation. I've never seen anyone tell a pizzagate-apocalypse-troony-child-sacrifice-implyer get told "moron" on Ganker
3 months ago
Anonymous
> but fact of the matter is dysphoria is something you can be diagnosed with
women used to be prescribed orgasms to treat their clinical hysteria.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>That's a philosophical fallacy, but fact of the matter is dysphoria is something you can be diagnosed with and gender euphoria is something that can treat it, which involves expressing yourself and being treated as your gender.
First off it's not a fallacy, it's a direct application of your claim. Second, dysphoria is a mental illness. Being schizophrenic or hearing voices is also something that you can be diagnosed with and that can be treated, doesn't mean the underlying issues (the delusions) are "real". >Because you can apply that standard to just about everything, stressed alchoholics are miserable? Just subjective bro.
Not sure what you are trying to say.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>First off it's not a fallacy, it's a direct application of your claim.
You are being anti-pragmatic - claiming that until philosophical essentialism is disproved that something that benefits people shouldn't be done. >Second, dysphoria is a mental illness. Being schizophrenic or hearing voices is also something that you can be diagnosed with and that can be treated, doesn't mean the underlying issues (the delusions) are "real".
PTSD is also a mental illness, is the stuff that happened to that war vet not real? is the treatment telling him "just ignore it lool"?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You are being anti-pragmatic - claiming that until philosophical essentialism is disproved that something that benefits people shouldn't be done.
You are moving the goalposts now. >PTSD is also a mental illness, is the stuff that happened to that war vet not real? is the treatment telling him "just ignore it lool"?
I'm just refuting your claim that just because something can be diagnosed it means the underlying cause is real. People suffering from gender dysphoria doesn't mean "gender" is a real thing, it just means that some people are mentally ill. You can't even give a satisfactory definition of what constitutes it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You are moving the goalposts now.
How so? Your complaint stems from a philosophical argument that you yourself haven't divulged much about the issues with, which assumes biological essentialism as the crux of an individual >I'm just refuting your claim that just because something can be diagnosed it means the underlying cause is real. People suffering from gender dysphoria doesn't mean "gender" is a real thing
Your argument is on the same tier as saying words don't exist because humans made them up and a dog wouldn't understand they exist.
3 months ago
Anonymous
> which assumes biological essentialism as the crux of an individual
Science assumes this as a standard practice.
3 months ago
Anonymous
No it doesn't. This is exclusively stuff you hear from 2010 era Black Science Man and Bill Nye shit (ironically)
t. studied biology for 2 years.
>sex is real, gender is feelings
Correct.
feelings are important, this board literally popularized men talking about >THAT FEEL WHEN NO GF
to a new wave of nerds
3 months ago
Anonymous
>science doesn’t promote biological essentialism >studied biology for 2 years
not making a great case for yourself, anon. consider how many biological studies end up with an answer other than “we don’t know”.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>consider how many biological studies end up with an answer other than “we don’t know”.
thats an argument in favor of me? Do you know what eesentialism is
3 months ago
Anonymous
No, it’s an invitation for you to consider that “I don’t know” is not an acceptable answer for a scientific paper.
Science, by necessity, insists non human factors take precedence over human factors. Its why science applied to cultural and sociological topics is always such a crapshoot.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Science, by necessity, insists non human factors take precedence over human factors
what no it doesnt you made that up
3 months ago
Anonymous
Essentially he's saying
reals>feels
Which is how science is supposed to work, yes.
3 months ago
Anonymous
except science doesn't say reals > feels it says proof > contradiction to proof but if there is no proof science does not concern itself with the topic. And there is proof for psychiatric quality of life for dysphoric and its treatment which is dealt with by soft sciences. The rest is done by philosophy, and besides Christian "philosophers" most thinkers argued against essentialism, implying you can be reborn as different sexes or end up becoming a different ones (from the Greeks to the Buddhas)
3 months ago
Anonymous
> And there is proof for psychiatric quality of life for dysphoric and its treatment which is dealt with by soft sciences.
There is also proof that giving drugs to drug addicts improves their quality of life.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You: >can identify what a woman is >want to frick them
troony >can identify what a woman is >want to be one >can succeed in fulfilling this need >depressed and stressed if this need is not met
3 months ago
Anonymous
>>can succeed in fulfilling this need
LOL
3 months ago
Anonymous
Thats the point of trooning out. Who are you to post crying wojacks and tell someone else they are not happy?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Thats the point
Yeah and it doesn't work.
3 months ago
Anonymous
it works for them, even if you dont think they pass, which is the point >but twitter
every community on twitter, including the ones you belong to, are shit on twitter
3 months ago
Anonymous
> it works for them
And allowing a drug addict to relapse also works for them.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It doesn't.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It does. In the short term.
no, but providing safer environments and decriminalizing drugs does help them, however unrelated that is
Breaking their dependency on substance abuse is a much better solution. Enablement can sometimes help ween people off, but it also enables people to prolong their addiction.
3 months ago
Anonymous
no, but providing safer environments and decriminalizing drugs does help them, however unrelated that is
3 months ago
Anonymous
No it doesn't are you moronic? Seattle tried that and it's a hell hole
3 months ago
Anonymous
>No it doesn't are you moronic?
yes it does, portugal and spain did it and it vastly improved things >but America
not real humans
3 months ago
Anonymous
It doesn't. Letting them continue hitting drugs over and over is not helping them. And even if we equipped everyone with NARCAN pens to help a druggie out if they start OD'ing nearby so they don't kill themselves, it's not desirable to let a segment of the population continually abuse chemicals to trip balls 24/7 since there is no way for that to be fair. They can't possibly earn money while constantly under the influence, so they resort to stealing. If the government pays them, it's unfair to the people working who have to suffer so some jackass can shoot up in public and zonk the frick out.
The correct solution is to flay drug dealers alive and put their heads on pikes around town as a warning to others. Singapore doesn't go far enough.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It does. In the short term.
[...]
Breaking their dependency on substance abuse is a much better solution. Enablement can sometimes help ween people off, but it also enables people to prolong their addiction.
https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/is-portugals-drug-decriminalization-a-failure-or-success-the-answer-isnt-so-simple/
Literally first google
3 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
Initial Results of Portugal’s New Drug Policies
By 2018, Portugal’s number of heroin addicts had dropped from 100,000 to 25,000. Portugal had the lowest drug-related death rate in Western Europe, one-tenth of Britain and one-fiftieth of the U.S. HIV infections from drug use injection had declined 90%. The cost per citizen of the program amounted to less than $10/citizen/year while the U.S. had spent over $1 trillion over the same amount of time. Over the first decade, total societal cost savings (e.g., health costs, legal costs, lost individual income) came to 12% and then to 18%.
International acclaim for Portugal’s originally maligned ‘experiment’ came from sources as varied as the American Psychological Association, Vancouver Sun, and The Guardian. Still, in 2017, The Guardian reported local frustration with inaction regarding supervised injection sites, overdose treatment, and needle exchange programs in prisons. In short, some feared insufficient recognition of the ongoing need to maintain “a web of health and social rehabilitation services.”
So both of you were completely wrong yet believed what you said based on stereotypes
lmaoaoo
Notice how you both lean on the same, single study to back up your claim? But ignore all studies that disagree with your claim?
Thats not science.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>But ignore all studies that disagree with your claim?
lmao link one
3 months ago
Anonymous
Vancouver and Portland have safe injection sites.
Have their drug abuse statistics improved?
3 months ago
Anonymous
To be clear the way to resolve drug abuse is to not insulate druggies from the consequences.
If you can't pass drug tests, no free or low cost government housing: You go out in the streets and die if you can't pay your way.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Again, it’s counter productive to use appeasement in treatment of a drug addiction.
By the same logic, appeasing the belief that a man is really a woman does not help address the underlying issue at hand.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It does. In the short term.
[...]
Breaking their dependency on substance abuse is a much better solution. Enablement can sometimes help ween people off, but it also enables people to prolong their addiction.
Initial Results of Portugal’s New Drug Policies
By 2018, Portugal’s number of heroin addicts had dropped from 100,000 to 25,000. Portugal had the lowest drug-related death rate in Western Europe, one-tenth of Britain and one-fiftieth of the U.S. HIV infections from drug use injection had declined 90%. The cost per citizen of the program amounted to less than $10/citizen/year while the U.S. had spent over $1 trillion over the same amount of time. Over the first decade, total societal cost savings (e.g., health costs, legal costs, lost individual income) came to 12% and then to 18%.
International acclaim for Portugal’s originally maligned ‘experiment’ came from sources as varied as the American Psychological Association, Vancouver Sun, and The Guardian. Still, in 2017, The Guardian reported local frustration with inaction regarding supervised injection sites, overdose treatment, and needle exchange programs in prisons. In short, some feared insufficient recognition of the ongoing need to maintain “a web of health and social rehabilitation services.”
So both of you were completely wrong yet believed what you said based on stereotypes
lmaoaoo
3 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/is-portugals-drug-decriminalization-a-failure-or-success-the-answer-isnt-so-simple/
Literally first google
Here is one of those negative consequences that these studies will never discuss.
https://www.koin.com/news/used-syringes-litter-portland-as-needle-exchanges-grow/amp/
How is the homeless drug addict situation on the west coast anyway?
3 months ago
Anonymous
idk Im not American and cant open that article but Im guessing
[...]
are the problem
>make drugs legal >less people now are addicted to drugs
I'm sorry anon but you are moronic if you believe this
>defying literal proof because you dont like the narrative it implies niGGer
3 months ago
Anonymous
yeah, you just are a moron then, okay.
Alcohol is illegal in many muslim countries. And I bet America has more alcoholics than all those muslim countries combined
3 months ago
Anonymous
>make drugs legal >less people now are addicted to drugs
I'm sorry anon but you are moronic if you believe this
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Portugal
WHO GIVES A FLYING FRICK ABOUT SOME FOURTH WORLD COUNTRY'S STATISTICS?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I do.
t. Defender of Portugal
3 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/is-portugals-drug-decriminalization-a-failure-or-success-the-answer-isnt-so-simple/
Literally first google
1. I don't care about the death rates of druggies. That's not a metric I'm particularly concerned with when making policy.
2. Hungary is super harsh on drugs and had 48 overdose deaths in 2020 to Portugal's 63. In the same year, equally harsh Bulgaria had 24 overdoses to Portugal's 63.
3 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/is-portugals-drug-decriminalization-a-failure-or-success-the-answer-isnt-so-simple/
Literally first google
>The reporters note that drug use, overdoses, and drug‐related crime have increased from 2019–2023. They report that the percentage of adults reported to have used illicit drugs was 12.8 percent in 2022, compared to 7.8 percent in 2001.
Unironically, you have to prepare for relapse and just kind of hope that they don't do it, or at least they do it and don't frick up.
But drug addicts have a real disease and being obsessed with trooning yourself is a combination of grooming and mental illness that isn't treated.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Addiction is also a mental disease. Point is, you don’t treat mental disease by appeasement.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Except this troonery is literally being groomed by pedophiles and other malefactors.
John Money was a pedophile who experimented on two children.
That anyone uses his research as anything but a warning that any of his conclusions are, at best, ludicrous and, at worst, proof that the scientific community needs moral guidance is proof that there are very evil people in charge of funding a lot of social science.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>That anyone uses his research as anything but a warning that any of his conclusions are
nobody uses his research as proof because of what he did, they use his failed research (the 2 kids identified as men instead of women but were forced into acting female) as proof. You're pushing the narrative made up by /misc/ and popularized by E;R (some Ganker Avatar youtuber who makes videos about cartoons)
3 months ago
Anonymous
Aka using it as a warning, tard
3 months ago
Anonymous
Money >took 2 poorly circumsized kids who didnt identify female >made them act female for no reason >they were depressed and sudokud because they were acting against their gender
what DIDNT happen >kids identified female >he treated them as such >they sudokud
3 months ago
Anonymous
Money is an example of the type of people who exist behind transgender research. Its a criticism against people who think children can have such strong positions on their sexual identity, people who typically have less kids than more.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>it works for them >as long as we can get literally every person on the planet to maintain the delusion
lol
3 months ago
Anonymous
It would be much harder to make people let men act feminine. Trooning out is at least manageable.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Men are allowed to act feminine but that comes with downsides, and men can pretend to be women and they also comes with downsides. The issue people have is the attempt to forcibly remove the downsides of the latter through top down social control.
3 months ago
Anonymous
> It would be much harder to make people let men act feminine.
Every rockstar disagrees with you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
/v/irgins will continue being mad about trannies until every person condones their anti-troony ideals. Clearly they are morally lacking.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, because that makes the world safer for children.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>[x] will continue being mad about [y] until every person condones their [z] ideals. Clearly they are morally lacking.
You do realize that this is the single most basic political position possible for any person to have, right? It's literal NPC thinking, "They disagree with me, therefore they're wrong and evil."
3 months ago
Anonymous
the point was to make irony of the original poster's absurd statement anon, don't pretend you do not see it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
They clearly aren’t happy if it hinges on being accepted by society as a woman.
Just like people suffering from anorexia, the need to affirm their inner image will never be satisfied. Their own self consciousness will be projected on society so long as they believe society believes in the difference between men and women.
3 months ago
Anonymous
"troony" >Don't actually want to be a woman, but its a group that gives a bunch of power >Have this "gender is a social construct" as their mantra >Want to enforce the complete destruction of gender >In many cases has a powerful daddy that can give em the power to enforce it >Will probably end up causing the death of millions
3 months ago
Anonymous
Sounds like depression. Maybe their desire to be a woman is the issue here?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>How so? Your complaint stems from a philosophical argument that you yourself haven't divulged much about the issues with, which assumes biological essentialism as the crux of an individual
Because I'm not claiming "that something that benefits people shouldn't be done", I'm just arguing that there's no hard data supporting the existence of "gender" as it is just an arbitrary concept that someone made up with no biological basis. >Your argument is on the same tier as saying words don't exist because humans made them up and a dog wouldn't understand they exist.
Well yeah, words are arbitrary and made up, a tree is a tree regardless of the word you use to call it, just as a woman is a woman regardless of her sex-stereotyped behavior.
The fact that you have to get so philosophical to defend something that everyone innately understands, proves my point.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Because I'm not claiming "that something that benefits people shouldn't be done", I'm just arguing that there's no hard data supporting the existence of "gender" as it is just an arbitrary concept that someone made up with no biological basis.
Then you don't have an argument? >Well yeah
Talking about words as a concept? >The fact that you have to get so philosophical to defend something that everyone innately understands, proves my point.
You were implying philosophy in the first place in regards to what is "objective", do you know what topics the field of philosophy covers?
3 months ago
Anonymous
all nonsense. Give me data supporting the existence of a "gender" that can be defined and doesn't rely on arbitrary interpretations and words salads, or frick off
3 months ago
Anonymous
>all nonsense. Give me data supporting the existence of a "gender"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7441311/
Also those who identify as males who are forced into behaving feminine against their will also experience dyshporia
3 months ago
Anonymous
Tomboys and effeminate men exist. Doesn't mean they need to chop their wiener off, or take skin from their arm to make a fake wiener
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Tomboys and effeminate men exist. Doesn't mean they need to chop their wiener off, or take skin from their arm to make a fake wiener
good job on arguing FOR "gender as a spectrum" anon, always great to see more allies!
3 months ago
Anonymous
Masculine traits and feminine traits have always existed in both sexes. They do not turn a binary into a spectrum.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That's not gender on a spectrum though moron. A tomboy is still a woman and an effeminate man is still a man.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Having an interest in things mean gender is different.
Are you moronic, by chance? Does that mean a woman is a man if she likes math?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Idk, I think its quite simple but you just havent talked to the audience about it
hows this as an explanation >what if a AMAB likes to wear dresses/makeup and do things considered stereotypically feminine for the time because the homie feels left bad and unnatural identifying with men in the same way you recognize the distinction between your male friends and female friends >trying to do things that fit in as male feel bad, trying to do things that fit in as female feel good
no matter what gender, people arent just stereotypes but saying "gender cant differentiate between what feels culturally femme/masc" is like saying "men and women cant feel each other as being masc fem"
the counterpoint to which is (You)r sexuality which you clearly wouldn't say is gay as it decides if it likes women and not men
3 months ago
Anonymous
Please rewrite your post in English. I don't understand the language you posted
3 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't ask for a wall of text, Black person. I asked if you were moronic, and if a woman liking math makes her need a wiener.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Tomboys and effeminate men exist. Doesn't mean they need to chop their wiener off
according to trannies, they do. sorry champ, them's the rules.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Congrats, you proved that mental illnesses exist.
Let's say there was a country on Earth where the gender roles or whatever you wanna call them were reversed. Would a trans person become non trans travelling there?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>if a gay top goes to ancient rome is he still a gay?
its answered by "human interaction instead of assuming everyone is just a stereotype who only does 1 thing"
3 months ago
Anonymous
> Also those who identify as males who are forced into behaving feminine against their will also experience dyshporia
Dysphoria just sounds like emotional trauma.
3 months ago
Anonymous
dysphoria isnt categorized as trauma but can cause trauma from having to suppress your desires for long, similar to autists who suppress their stimming needs in public and can suffer from it, ergo it is moral to let trannies behave how they want
I shouldnt have to point out that social discsrimination at all can also cause stress
3 months ago
Anonymous
> dysphoria isnt categorized as trauma
Maybe it should be
3 months ago
Anonymous
>PTSD is also a mental illness,
Yes and when someone with PTSD thinks fireworks are gunfire and the CIA is following him to the grocery store he is given therapy and meds to get over it, not told his delusions are objective reality.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Yes and when someone with PTSD thinks fireworks are gunfire and the CIA is following him
thats not ptsd
3 months ago
Anonymous
Paranoia is a ptsd symptom moron
3 months ago
Anonymous
but thats not what ptsd is. You dont cure/treat ptsd by curing/treating paranoia.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Treat the symptoms to manage the condition, moron. Or are you going to argue it's better to allow the guy to beat the shit out of random people for looking at him wrong? Is that his personal identity that should be validated?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Paranoia is an emergent symptom, it's not fundamental to PTSD nor is it necessarily a problem for a vet to get scared of fireworks and think its the CIA. Similar to how solving the bleeding doesn't treat the whole of an infected wound
3 months ago
Anonymous
>it's not fundamental to PTSD
Where the frick did I ever say it was, moron?
3 months ago
Anonymous
re-read
>First off it's not a fallacy, it's a direct application of your claim.
You are being anti-pragmatic - claiming that until philosophical essentialism is disproved that something that benefits people shouldn't be done. >Second, dysphoria is a mental illness. Being schizophrenic or hearing voices is also something that you can be diagnosed with and that can be treated, doesn't mean the underlying issues (the delusions) are "real".
PTSD is also a mental illness, is the stuff that happened to that war vet not real? is the treatment telling him "just ignore it lool"?
, dysphoria is a mental illness. Being schizophrenic or hearing voices is also something that you can be diagnosed with and that can be treated, doesn't mean the underlying issues (the delusions) are "real". >PTSD is also a mental illness, is the stuff that happened to that war vet not real? is the treatment telling him "just ignore it lool"?
>You are being anti-pragmatic - claiming that until philosophical essentialism is disproved that something that benefits people shouldn't be done.
You are moving the goalposts now. >PTSD is also a mental illness, is the stuff that happened to that war vet not real? is the treatment telling him "just ignore it lool"?
I'm just refuting your claim that just because something can be diagnosed it means the underlying cause is real. People suffering from gender dysphoria doesn't mean "gender" is a real thing, it just means that some people are mentally ill. You can't even give a satisfactory definition of what constitutes it.
>People suffering from gender dysphoria doesn't mean "gender" is a real thing, it just means that some people are mentally ill. You can't even give a satisfactory definition of what constitutes it
you summarized mental illness as being predominantly about delusions, hope you understand
3 months ago
Anonymous
That isn't me, that's the person I was replying to, moron. And it doesn't even say what you claim, it says that treatable delusions aren't real, moron.
3 months ago
Anonymous
gender is a synonym for sex and a linguistic term, anything beyond that is dishonest appropriation to create ambiguity where none exists
3 months ago
Anonymous
>gender is a synonym for sex and a linguistic term
stop with the anti-semitism, goy
3 months ago
Anonymous
and energy didn't used to mean "matter" until 20th century scientists found a new way to use it
3 months ago
Anonymous
>and energy didn't used to mean "matter" until 20th century scientists found a new way to use it
That was used to strengthen definitional accuracy, not intentionally dilute it. You know, like science is supposed to do.
3 months ago
Anonymous
energy had entirely different connotations before that and had little basis in being associated with matter in that way, its just scientists really suck at naming things (which is why so much stuff is named after scientists themselves)
'Euphoria boners' are real, which says everything you need to know
plenty of things are possible, its accounting for all those variables that enables gender expression in the first place.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Gender expression doesn't exist, it's a made up concept >but all concepts are ma-
shut the frick up, you're not as clever as you think you are
concepts exist because they observe and define truthful, purposeful ideas, this is neither of those
it's just nonsense that's been made up wholesale, and you lap it up because some guy in a lab coat said to
men can't be women, women can't be men, masculine traits and feminine traits exist but gender is not a spectrum
3 months ago
Anonymous
>drinking alchohol makes you feel terrible >you remove alchohol from your life >somehow this is "fake living" and you were instead supposed to manually observe each molecule of your cell to realize that alchohol was bad for you
3 months ago
Anonymous
Completely irrelevant, since alcohol isn't a concept and its effects are not made up
3 months ago
Anonymous
what about the implications of positive thinking? Its been proven negative thinkign makes you miserable and less productive and positive thinking helps you. Shit, look at leaders through history and their motivational speeches, or marching bands in armies. Its still feeling. Even art falls under this if you want to go that far.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>positive thinking
thoughts are known to exist and known to influence the thinker
gender expression is still made up nonsense
3 months ago
Anonymous
You are actually moronic anon
3 months ago
Anonymous
no
3 months ago
Anonymous
Is this supposed to help your position in not being moronic?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>gender just means sex-stereotyped behaviour,
you bigoted, mysoginistic piece of shit. you right wing chud! women can enjoy men's hobbies and way of dressing as well.
you should be executed for your intolerance, you racist, bigoted chud!
under the guise of science, they attacked taxonomy, because redefinition doesn't require hard data, only disigenuous argument
and the catastrophic result of their dishonesty is this rank and file moron you see before you, repeating everything they say with a sense of unassailable authority
Leftist science isn't real science. It doesn't even use the Scientific Method founded by noted right-wing philosopher Francis Bacon. Real science is inherently conservative since they both stem from the philosophy of Francis Bacon. That's why Conservative countries like America, Canada, and the UK are responsible for 98%+ of all major inventions (IE, refrigeration, flight, steam engine, automobiles, electricity, sanitation, and so on), and as soon as they stopped being Conservative the scientific breakthroughs slowed way down.
You cannot have real science without Empiricism, and nothing about transgenderism passes the Empiricist sniff test.
>science says this is a real thing and not made up
there two very important points to this
1. Science can also be political to further a agenda, famous example is nazi science and its eugenics programs, if the government or some rich company don't want to fund research that might prove gender theory wrong, you will have tons of research only telling you gender theory is correct
2. The entire point of the scientific method is that it can be challenged, science is not a religion, you shouldn't use logical falacies when discussing it like this moron here
Why do you speak so authoritatively on this subject? What background do you have in this field? What education or certifications or experience do you have that sets you apart from any idiot just giving his uninformed opinion on the internet?
I need to know if I'm learning from an actual expert worth learning from, because you could just as easily be a literal schizophrenic druggie porn addicted child porn collector that is rambling nonsense, especially given the nature of this website.
I am 100% willing to listen and learn, but you need to do a better job at setting the foundation as to WHY, instead of just shouting out stupid shit based on vibes.
Personally I didn't care about trannies until everyone started telling me to worship them, and "science" might say there's real women, but when I look at them, I see men.
>logical fallacies are not ok >its ok for me to use hyperbole and just straight up lie about EVERYONE telling me to WORSHIP trannies
yeah ok there moron lmao
>turns on TV >someone is talking about how brave trannoid jones is for transitioning >plays videogame >troony flag on the car, troony flag on buildings >watch TV show >entire arc about some troony coming out
Go into a public space and announce that you don't believe trans women are women. Post it on social media. Say it at work. Say it in your comment section of choice. Make sure to attach your name to it.
See what reaction you get.
Why would I need to go out and shit on people that have nothing to do with me? You could make this argument for literally anything involving being an butthole and public menace.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You say we're not being pressured to worship trannies yet you liken a direct, even-tempered statement about the falsehood of transgender fundamentals with being a public menace.
Why is it shitting on people to say that you simply do not believe their their identity transcends biology?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Why is it shitting on people to say that you simply do not believe their their identity transcends biology?
this is materialism and makes you a brainlet on the same tier as Twitter Science Black person
I swear at some point you morons will unironically fall for "Hitler drank water too" tier shitposts
3 months ago
Anonymous
So you agree that a statement of basic fact (or belief, if you prefer) is treated as a morally repugnant act and heavily discouraged.
3 months ago
Anonymous
No, the morally repugnant act being discouraged is the method, behavior, and underlying motivations- not the message.
I'm not sure how you're failing to understand this?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>No, the morally repugnant act being discouraged is the method, behavior, and underlying motivations- not the message.
So in what circumstances am I allowed to publicly express this belief, that for the sake of this discussion I sincerely hold and desire to express in good faith?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Get invited onto Fox News
3 months ago
Anonymous
So I am only allowed to express my view if I am given a platform on a national news network?
If I do that, can I reasonably expect to be free from reprisal?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I never said that.
And the public menace part comes from bringing down others without provocation. You're allowed to believe in whatever you choose, but going out and proclaiming it to people that have no choice but to be around you and have no interest in what you have to say is not whatever you're trying to frame it as.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm allowed to believe in whatever I choose, but I'm just not allowed to, you know, say it. That would be morally reprehensible.
But society doesn't enforce worship of trannies, nosir.
3 months ago
Anonymous
counter point: isnt there a whole swathe of Fox News/Desaints anti troony shit, you know, still not without jobs? Like you only get fired for that shit in shitholes like Cali? Im not American
3 months ago
Anonymous
They have jobs but they are heavily vilified by the reigning establishment, regularly called a danger to democracy and their views threatened with suppression.
3 months ago
Anonymous
as an eastern yuro Id much rather trannies than low iq hooligan culture pseudo conservativism that is popular here
3 months ago
Anonymous
trust me, you don't
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't believe you understand a single word that you just wrote.
3 months ago
Anonymous
if only you knew how bad things are here
3 months ago
Anonymous
right back athcha bub
3 months ago
Anonymous
when you said 'here' I thought you meant Ganker, my mistake
Sorry you have to deal with that shit
I feel bad for anyone reading these ritualistic threads. Just so you know that there's always an answer to every question out there, even if the answers are the ones that you don't like.
>Why is forcing pseudo scientific transexual dogma down kids' throats a bad thing
Sexual dimorphism exists, gender is based on that biological reality not some kind of ideological game. Trying to use language to dissociate the concept of body types and growth being biologically determined by male or female genes is moronic. Grooming children to take experimental drugs and mutilate themselves is evil. Therefore it's a problem.
Why do you speak so authoritatively on this subject? What background do you have in this field? What education or certifications or experience do you have that sets you apart from any idiot just giving his uninformed opinion on the internet?
I need to know if I'm learning from an actual expert worth learning from, because you could just as easily be a literal schizophrenic druggie porn addicted child porn collector that is rambling nonsense, especially given the nature of this website.
I am 100% willing to listen and learn, but you need to do a better job at setting the foundation as to WHY, instead of just shouting out stupid shit based on vibes.
You don't need to be an ~~*expert*~~ to know that chopping off a kid's penis is bad, moron
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't even want to know how many hours you spend thinking about kid penis.
You need a job, buddy.
If you're that much against working for the mercantile class, at least get an all-american job that gets you working with your hands, so that we don't have to continue seeing you put it to a keyboard to type moronic shit.
I'm not going to listen to some moron that probably barely scored his GED, giving his stupid takes on Ganker with no sources or credibility.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why are you so angry at him? Also, can you stop using harmful language like r*tard?
3 months ago
Anonymous
You're the one wanting to chop off penises, not me, so the burden of proof is on you that it's fine
I also graduated college with a business degree and and have a job right out of college above the median salary. So you're again being moronic and deflecting.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>business degree
KEK
Nevermind, it suddenly all makes so much sense now. Why didn't you just say that to begin with, you moron? Now I'm DEFINITELY not listening to some dipshit that probably plateaued at a C in Stats.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You're a moron that probably barely got a GED
I graduated college >th-that doesn't count!!
Cope, seethe, dilate, etc.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>probably plateaued at a C in Stats
You're putting yourself on a pretty high pedestal, since not even most math nerds can be trusted to do statistics right. Wouldn't you be busy doing other shit with your 300k starting career than be on Ganker of all places?
3 months ago
Anonymous
He's a disingenuous shitposter, anon.
He probably doesn't even believe the shit he's posting and is just on his lunch break, getting a laugh from anons taking him seriously.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Go draw some more Assigned Male, Sophie, I need something to laugh at
>I am 100% willing to listen and learn
No you’re not.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I surely am, but I'm not going to listen to someone just saying words. That guy could be a fricking bag boy at Sprouts, trying to give us all a dissertation on the horrors of penis chopping that isn't actually happening anywhere (except circumcision), and I'm supposed to add this to my knowledge database because it has sick vibes? C'mon now, brainlets.
Why are you so angry at him? Also, can you stop using harmful language like r*tard?
No, moron is the best word. homosexual is the second best word. These slurs are the spices of the English language.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Do you seriously believe having a piece of paper that says you spent four years reading and writing wankery makes you intelligent or privy to some objective knowledge?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Tell me how I know you've never accomplished anything in your life.
No, surgical transition for minors is your endgame, for now you've not been allowed to go further than destroying their minds, their families, and chemically ruining their bodies
>muh endgame
Holy shit, so you just open up with admitting everything you say is just made up in your own head? At least take me out for some beers first.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Tell me how I know you've never accomplished anything in your life.
You're an arrogant and condescending prick who thinks he knows everything even when you're dead wrong, that's how. You're probably the type to say "I don't need a gun, the police will protect me"
>Anon is so moronic he relies on argumentum ad vericundiam and ad hominem for all of his opinions >Something that most people learn in high school is stupid
You hate to see it. Yeah so the reason I know sexual dimorphism exists is because I passed my hs biology class
3 months ago
Anonymous
>HS Biology
LMAO Why leave it at that? Why not source Middle School biology next? I'm glad to know the entire foundation of your understanding on the subject ends at 101.
That's true business degree homie shit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm glad to know the entire foundation of your understanding on the subject ends at 101.
Yes, you are so incorrect that even 101 biology disagrees with you. Sexual dimorphism exists, there is only male and female and the entire transexual ideological issue of deconstructing what is male or female is a non issue to hard science.
AND your still arguing on authority like a fricking moron even after I told you it's a logical fallacy
3 months ago
Anonymous
>your
how do i add anonymous to filter
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I see you made a typo
About what I expected
3 months ago
Anonymous
go back to debate club loser lmao
if you want to play grabass with buzzwords go join hasan's chat
>Why do you speak so authoritatively on this subject?
He's a normal functioning human. >What background do you have in this field?
He's a normal functioning human. >What education or certifications or experience do you have that sets you apart from any idiot just giving his uninformed opinion on the internet?
He's a normal functioning human.
This shit was basic commonly understood knowledge that propagated our species for 300,000 years, and the species of our ancestors for millions of years before that. >b-but muh twospirit, muh tribal shit I have no idea what it actually is but I can purposefully misinterpret it to reinforce my delusions!
Shut up, disingenuous moron.
It was a mistake to stop dashing morons like you against rocks.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>normal >posts on Ganker Ganker about kid dicks >immediately fantasizes violence when angry
LOL, LMAO even.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>relentlessly push to get kids dicks removed >people try to stop you from taking kids dicks >"LOL you're so obsessed with kids dicks!"
I would say 'gradually I began to hate them' but there was nothing gradual about it, subhuman scum
3 months ago
Anonymous
You wouldn't say that, because it would be a lie. Your entire stance is predicated on notions that you've fabricated within your own mind, based on your own fears. Nothing about what you're saying involving kids or their genitals exists in reality. You couldn't point out even 5 examples of sex surgery on minors if asked to do so. Your platform is built on vibes, and nothing you do or say in life has anything to do with actually helping kids, because you probably couldn't even name 5 kids that you'd want to help prevent this for (No, the filenames of the ones you keep on your external drive does niot count).
3 months ago
Anonymous
do not*
I'm new to the thread. I just saw your moronic post and wanted to call you a moron. >immediately fantasizes violence when angry
This is normal. We've violently erased everything even slightly different from us since before we were even Homos, let alone Sapiens.
We're tall hairless paranoid chimps.
Do not pretend you are above this nature, moron. You are the same as everyone else.
nta i am above this and you
3 months ago
Anonymous
No, surgical transition for minors is your endgame, for now you've not been allowed to go further than destroying their minds, their families, and chemically ruining their bodies
3 months ago
Anonymous
They do do surgery on minors though. Pretty sure the troony doctor in What is a Woman admitted to doing it to a 16 year old
3 months ago
Anonymous
>they do, as a matter of FACT >pretty sure >cites grifter documentary made by an equally uninformed and unqualified source with a political bias and no higher education
Brother.........
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's literally a troony in the documentary that admits to it. Can't find the clip but it was this surgeon
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna91359
cope more 41%er
3 months ago
Anonymous
>higher education
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm new to the thread. I just saw your moronic post and wanted to call you a moron. >immediately fantasizes violence when angry
This is normal. We've violently erased everything even slightly different from us since before we were even Homos, let alone Sapiens.
We're tall hairless paranoid chimps.
Do not pretend you are above this nature, moron. You are the same as everyone else.
There is unfortunately no provable basis for either side. Psychological studies disagree on it, even my professors at university disagreed on it.
Therefore all that one can give you are subjective morals and opinions. I don't think this necessarily makes them disingenuous or stupid. You are the same. You have nothing that necessarily can be argued as proof against it, nor for it. You are willing to listen, but no one here has anything to teach you. You have wandered into a public square and demanded to speak to an expert, when even the experts cannot agree, and none are present to begin with. Harm is just a word, defined by humans. Some would consider killing and eating elderly human beings non-harmful. Most would consider it harmful and immoral. That's the key: Consider.
Personally, so I don't get jumped by confused, angry people, I am not supportive of doing anything to kids like that, but I've come to just know that the type A vs B stuff is an effortless aspect of appeasement that will not be removed from anything the west gets now, because regardless of if it matters or not, it will produce more negative reactions now if not included.
TLDR it's a matter of opinion and morals what is good or bad here, so there's no experts. You will not find them here
3 months ago
Anonymous
> There is unfortunately no provable basis for either side
Then why do corporations and policy makers feel the need to take action?
Truth is that the studies don’t matter, and are actively financed in order for people in power to justify doing what they want.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Because it makes them money? Corporations are not run by people with bleeding hearts, they are run by businessmen.
And yes, the studies by their very nature cannot prove anything. Psychology does not prove. It tells you that there's a likelihood within a reasonable margin of error, or that two things are correlated. Some things cannot strictly be proven. Did you know that while it is generally accepted that smoking cigarettes causes cancer, it has not technically been outright proven? For it to be proven one would have to conduct experiments that are unethical and involve children. But it's silly to argue it does not cause it, because common sense dictates that such high correlation between the two factors would indicate a relationship.
Tangent aside, yes, it's all for money. They don't hide it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
So you agree the studies are all for money?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Well if they're conducted by a university, yes, they need grant money to live and retain their positions, no matter how worthless the study. A professor told me this.
It's hilarious that people still think profit is the primary motivator behind these entities.
It is for the corporate entities receiving funding, even if the organizations funding them have other goals.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's hilarious that people still think profit is the primary motivator behind these entities.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The extremely lucrative 'gender affirmation' industry certainly can't hurt.
Same with the covid jab.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>covid jab
So is everyone who is anti troony also anti jab? I need to make sure EVERYONE who is anti troony is also anti jab so I can screenshot in the future for this guy
>Yet you've never told an anon who posts that "no, that's moronic" to set intellectual standards and instead indirectly approve of them.
How do you know that? Do you have a record of every post I've ever made? I'd like you to cite your sources please. If you reply with anything except sources you're outright admitting that you're a massive moron. Sorry I don't make the rules.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>So is everyone who is anti troony also anti jab?
Many are, because both are dishonest grifts being pushed by the same dishonest people via the same dishonest methods.
But not everyone, no.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>it's dishonest to believe that surgical mutilation of your genitals does not make you a woman
3 months ago
Anonymous
>>it's dishonest to believe that surgical mutilation of your genitals does not make you a woman
I am saying the opposite.
Trans shit and vaccine shit are both being pushed dishonestly.
I’ll never understand what the problem with pronoun options is
if you want your boy character to be called she then go for it, since when did character customization options become a bad thing?
doesn't exist or matter*
my fingers are retorded >sex doesnt matter because if it did you'd be fricked cuz u never gettin any LMAO
not an argument, but leftists can't make those
Because modern Western leftism is designed to be as subversive as possible, especially when it comes to culture. If you don't believe me, read about the Frankfurt school.
What the other guy who replied to you said, read any Frankfurt school philosophy and it quite literally says "frick morals, frick being genuine, always argue in bad faith, use every underhanded tactic and sophistry to subvert and get your way because the west is EVIL". They feel justified in being insufferable lying pieces of shit because they believe you to be ontologically evil. It's not like the feelings you have against them, i. e. that they are misguided, can (and should) be reasoned with, should strive to find a middle ground etc, no. They HATE you. They want you and people like you demoralised and dead, and they want to spit on your grave. They have no boundaries.
because they're all about "owning the chuds." they're every bit as hateful and irrational as their imagined enemies. they're the ultimate projection machines.
im not a troony
once again this is some weird self own projection shit
are you really this moronic lmao why even throw words around if you dont know what youre talking about
idc about amerifat politics- i just think you, yourself, are just massively moronic and need to know that someone else on this planet thinks that
>I think
you don't think, stupid troony. you claim your enemies are hateful and intolerant, yet at the end of the day you're the one who's just that. you can't stand people with different opinions, so you try to paint them as evil by attempting to redefine what's bigoted and discriminatory.
tl;dr you're no different from a fascist.
Why do you speak so authoritatively on this subject? What background do you have in this field? What education or certifications or experience do you have that sets you apart from any idiot just giving his uninformed opinion on the internet?
I need to know if I'm learning from an actual expert worth learning from, because you could just as easily be a literal schizophrenic druggie porn addicted child porn collector that is rambling nonsense, especially given the nature of this website.
I am 100% willing to listen and learn, but you need to do a better job at setting the foundation as to WHY, instead of just shouting out stupid shit based on vibes.
>m-muh credentials >m-muh experts
anyone knows chopping off your dick leads to extinction, among a whole host of other complications. you don't have to be an ~~*expert*~~ to recognize self-evident truths.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>you claim your enemies are hateful and intolerant
and intolerant
troony.
>you can't stand people with different opinions, so you try to paint them as evil by attempting to redefine what's bigoted and discriminatory. >you're no different from a fascist. >>try to paint them as evil by attempting to redefine what's bigoted and discriminatory >>you're no different from a fascist.
>anyone knows chopping off your dick leads to extinction >>The projected world population on Jan. 1, 2024 is 8,019,876,189, up 75,162,541 (0.95%)
>you claim your enemies are hateful and intolerant >claim
troony >>~~*expert*~~
Is it not physically painful to be perceived while being this moronic?
3 months ago
Anonymous
did your algorithm break?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm saying that you've literally demonstrated every single thing you're trying to call out your "opponents" for, within your own fricking post.
>do we have any rebuttal here?
One is wanting people to call you a specific way that might not be accurate to what you are
The other is just choosing what gender (sex) you are
These people don't know the difference between biological sex with the human species and grammatical rules which are very different for a lot of languages? Or are they pretending to be moronic?
it was intentionally confused by the "sexologist" John Money some 50 years ago
before then, nobody considered grammatical gender (something english got rid of anyway) and sex to be the same thing
Oh yeah, John Money, the pedophile who took advantage of a little boy who was injured as a newborn and his twin brother and made the injured boy so traumatized that he committed suicided as an adult later. Why does anyone listen to this piece of shit?
The kids never identified as female though, John Moneys point was that you can raise men as women and make them think they're women, while modern trans theory is that it's about how people feel, ergo why Money is never included.
>science says this is a real thing
Hahahahahahahaha!
Yes
Read information from the other side instead of only form your side and you'll see you're only reading selective information by people with ulterior motives.
you only get your troony info from Ganker and probably obscure discords
youve never even googled anything about the topic in your life
you just trust this random anon isn't trusting some other random anon who isn't trusting some other random anon who isn't trusting some other random anon who isn't trusting some other random anon who isn't trusting some other random anon who isn't trusting some other random anon who isn't trusting some other random anon who isn't trusting some other random anon who
3 months ago
Anonymous
Do you actually believe this?
Get a grip, dude.
3 months ago
Anonymous
you have googled it, researched it, actually looked up other sources besides other anons? can you tell me what the discrepancy between them and what anons post on Ganker is?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes. >what the discrepancy is
Crass language.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's called observable reality. I guess you wouldn't know anything about that since you get all your information from carefully curated, paid for propaganda masquerading as genuine science.
3 months ago
Anonymous
you get your info from anons who believe this is a pizza-gate war on Christianity by demons who want to murder children. Yet you've never told an anon who posts that "no, that's moronic" to set intellectual standards and instead indirectly approve of them.
>science says this is a real thing
No. Science has no opinion on how one culture or another categorizes things.
"gender dysphoria" and "gender euphoria" is real.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Yet you've never told an anon who posts that "no, that's moronic" to set intellectual standards and instead indirectly approve of them.
How do you know that? Do you have a record of every post I've ever made? I'd like you to cite your sources please. If you reply with anything except sources you're outright admitting that you're a massive moron. Sorry I don't make the rules.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You are the demon who wants to murder children.
3 months ago
Anonymous
'Euphoria boners' are real, which says everything you need to know
Why do these freaks always type like this when they get desperate? Is it some attempt to project the idea that they find the whole situation laughable? Because it always looks really insecure, all they’re saying is “yes this is so funny I’m totally laughing at you right now, can’t you see men laughing”. It’s e
3 months ago
Anonymous
Because the absurdity and irony are genuinely hilarious.
You're just too ignorant to get the joke.
>be me, a little girl in the late 90s >playing Pokemon Blue, the game is really fun, just name the MC after myself and pretending he's a cool tomboy because no female option but it's not preventing me from loving the game >playing Crystal later >love it just as much, see there's a female option who's a cute tomboy with cute hair, really happy about it >picking female options for all the next games, liking most of the new fashion and haircut options starting from gen 6 >suddenly gen 9 comes out, the male and female MC look almost the exact same and all the fashion options are hideous school/scout uniforms >learn soon later it's allegedly meant to be inclusive >mfw Game Freak is trying to be more inclusive by excluding the female options for actual female players even though they successfully and effortlessly were inclusive in almost all the previous games
pick me
except she doesnt actually achieve anything because she comes to simp for Ganker of all places
i guess thats what happens when youre too fat for OF
I like that "breasts or gtfo" has morphed into "you will never be a woman" when alleged femanons post. Interesting cultural shifts are happening to time honored institutions.
the first pokemon game that allowed you to choose your gender was crystal, but it didn't have professor oak in the intro
in fact, 8-bit professor oak never asked you about your gender
why are you telling lies on the internet, OP
is it because you are too young to remember the original games
OP isn't lying, the twitter poster is, OP's post is about the twxt's argument
And it's a minor anachronism that has no bearing on anything anyway, who fricking cares
the funny thing about the body type 1 and 2 shit is that modern character design is so hideous half the time you cant even tell which is meant to be male or female.
A lot of people accidentally chose female Dragonborn in BG3, because the visual differences weren't obvious and the body type shit is stupidly ambiguous (which is intentional)
Holding other people emotionally accountable for your discreet choices on pronoun definitions is more tyrannical than the functional social norms it attempts to usurp. Creating pointless additional categorizations that don't exist outside of private circles don't help matters either.
Reminder that the reason why you see "so many" trannies online is because most online spaces nowadays are heavily moderated, censored and influenced by a literal handful of trannies/israelites. Try commenting something negative (but reasonable and not against the ToS) on Youtube about it, on channels that are woke, and then switch your account and IP. Your comment will be gone within 24 hours, without fail.
You're dumb anon, there's no secret group trying to piss you off. It goes like this: >be sheltered middle class teen >bored as frick because of never needing anything >go online and be exposed to edgy gays claiming to be different and making up genders >"Wait a minute, I'm also special!" >becomes homosexual
Imagine how much they must be seething and cowering in fear if they have the need to dogpile on a random streamer who got a bit angry about pronouns for months, if not YEARS afterwards.
>At university >Need to introduce yourself with your name and pronouns >Say I don't use pronouns and I'd prefer if people just refer to me by name >Some people actually do it
No, i go to a european STEM uni and professors couldn't give two shits what you are called or if you know other people's names. Do the differential equations, shut the frick up, and that's it. Then again you are American so you most likely have a degree in feminist gay dance theory.
Incredibly disingenuous, choosing the character's sex is not the problem and never was.
Pandering to the bottomless mental illness of genderspecials with preferred pronouns and 'body type A/body type B' selections erases biological sex and asks the player to accept the ludicrous idea that it's a mutable social construct.
TL;DR frick off
The original pokemon didn't let you choose between being a girl or a boy, nor did it let you choose a male figure with a female pronoun. It was simply a question the game asked during it's intro that you couldn't actually answer.
Compare that to a modern day game like Starfield, a game where you can play as a character that is for all intents and purposes a male but still have the option of using female as your pronoun, and you should be able to easily tell the difference.
The point still stands.
It allowed you to pick a boy or a girl.
It didn't allow you to pick body type A and assign it the pronoun Boy.
There's a fundamental difference between the two.
Why did leftytwitter take this and run with it? Boy and Girl aren’t pronouns, and having Boy and Girl in games again would be an improvement. They were the ones who caused this mess in the first place by clamoring for Boy/Girl to get removed and replaced with TypeA/B or Masculine/Feminine type options
>Why did leftytwitter take this and run with it?
Because after a decade of screaming that sex and gender aren't the same thing they decided to admit it is to "own the chuden."
>Why did leftytwitter take this and run with it?
they're morons
they're disingenuous morons
they're smug disingenuous morons
they're smug disingenuous morons who are never, ever right about anything
kek, reminds me of when the official Israel twitter account acknowledged that Jesus is the son of God (completely rejecting Judaism as a religion) back in 2020 when trying to make a joke about people calling Jesus a Palestinian.
It’s still up on their account, look up “Hey Dad Israel tweet.” Was a reply to the “God” account (run by a israelite btw) making some post crying about people whitewashing Jesus when he was a wholesome Palestinian.
Then, the Israel account tweeted this in response >God [referring to the twitter account]: Jesus was a Palestinian. > >Jesus: Hey Dad, remember when you gave that speech about israeli values at my Bar Mitzvah?
>Why did leftytwitter take this and run with it?
they're morons
they're disingenuous morons
they're smug disingenuous morons
they're smug disingenuous morons who are never, ever right about anything
morons who aren't told they're being moronic will assume they are right, and politically inclined cliques love affirming each others opinions in statistically significant amounts.
>don't you attention seekers ever get sick of getting exactly what you seek? >day in and day out, people reply to your threads without you having to put in any effort at all >why don't you stop getting what you want for free?
oh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no WHY DOESIT RECOMMEND THAT? WHY IS POKEMON TRANSPHOBIC?
Anyone notices how these morons have started adopting "snowflake" to throw at anyone who even merely questions their actions or motives? It's true what they say, all leftwingers know how to do is parrot rightwingers
They aren't parroting you, so much as pointing out the irony in your usage of such phrases because they can almost always be entirely applied to the people using them.
It isn't parroting, so much as laughing at the irony of your blatant hypocrisy, but I'm not sure why I expected someone with your mental capacity to ever be able to collect that context from the cues provided.
>I insult you >You spit the exact same insult back at me >"I-I'm not parroting though!"
Literally third-grade-tier "I know you are but what am I" type rhetoric
>It isn't parroting, so much as laughing at the irony of your blatant hypocrisy, but I'm not sure why I expected someone with your mental capacity to ever be able to collect that context from the cues provided
its a low iq/empathy problem, idiots think that if they trick themselves into believing other person X is doing things for imagined Y reason that that is their actual motive.
more like you spineless leftists try to paint others as hateful while being just as, if not more hateful than you accuse others of being.
you're the real bigots.
If you're going to straw man me, can you at least use a well drawn shitpost comic? I think I deserve at least that much. I think even using AI art would look better than whatever the frick this shit is.
NTA but it's not straw manning you, arguably it's straw manning the people being discussed (but it seems an accurate enough depiction to me)
Don't be so sensitive.
I'm sensitive to shitty art. I want a goddamned masterpiece. This comic is worse than someone bringing a Ctrl Alt Del piece and throwing it in my face.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>This comic is worse than someone bringing a Ctrl Alt Del piece and throwing it in my face.
Admittedly, yes, but it's funny that she looks like an Attack on Titan character.
What's funny is that the left don't even know why the right were insulting them as snowflakes. The right wasn't saying the left was fragile, the right was saying that leftists all feel like they're unique like how every snowflake is unique. They were mocking you for trying to be different, causing you to all unironically look and act the same.
>dawg just look at this reddit post dawg
This website has fallen so fricking far
You both look like this.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not a 40 year old man yet. I'm still only 27.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You WILL look like this.
AND YOU WILL LIKE IT.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Probably not. I think when I hit 40 I'll probably go for the "aging rocker/viking" look and grow out my hair and beard. I'll also start calling younger men "champ" and "buddy".
3 months ago
Anonymous
Please don't. My dad went through his viking obsession phase and wouldn't shut the frick up about his corny ass beard.
Don't do that to your kids, man.
The champ and buddy part is wholesome though, definitely work with that.
The corona virus is real, but it was used by pfizer to use the population as beta testers for a technology that was not only untested, but also worse than the regular thing in terms of storage and manufacturing speed.
And if you point that out, you get shoved into the anti-vax group while literally defending vaccines.
Who should I trust >confident looking people inside their own vehicle with no shame about posting their true opinions despite the media and corporations being against them
or >pic related
>Anyone notices how these morons have started adopting "snowflake" to throw at anyone who even merely questions their actions or motives?
it's what leftists always do: attempt to co-opt and subvert.
I've also seen them (and corporate shills) also use the words troony and pajeet against their detractors. it's so hilarious because you can see the mask come off in real time.
It’s a mix of subversive instinct and narcissism.
Snowflake is an interesting term since it started in the humanistic left circles as >everyone is unique and should be valued
Then it was picked up and subverted by more meritocratic mindsets as an insult >they think they’re all special snowflakes
THEN the meaning somehow got translated from unique to fragile in the right political space >melting down like snowflakes!
Which is when the younger, more narcissistic lefties pulls the classic projection >no, you’re the sensitive fragile one!
Very interesting how the political discourse of the past 2 decades can be viewed through the change in connotation of a single word.
They aren't parroting you, so much as pointing out the irony in your usage of such phrases because they can almost always be entirely applied to the people using them.
It isn't parroting, so much as laughing at the irony of your blatant hypocrisy, but I'm not sure why I expected someone with your mental capacity to ever be able to collect that context from the cues provided.
>THEN the meaning somehow got translated from unique to fragile in the right political space
It became a synonym for fragile because the 'unique snowflakes' invariably displayed overwhelming fragility (and still do)
Yes, but it also lost its original “unique” connotation in the process. It’s interesting watching how the meaning changes as younger participants pick up the term.
It's actually kind of annoying when you put it that way
It's like how 'literally' has been used so much to mean the opposite, its meaning has started to transform
Yes, and it's very easy to understand. I am not going to bother telling anyone that uses this argument what it is because they are willfully ignorant. Their argument is disingenuous.
genuinely baffled how they dont understand their own beliefs. biological sex doesnt equal gender identity/pronoun preferences. those are completely separate things. hes asking are you girl. not if you go by she/her pronouns or even if you identify as one. what he is asking is problematic now which is why its being removed from games. also fpbp.
But Republicans and the religious commit child sex crimes/are indicted for possession of CSAM at a much higher rate than trannies, even adjusting for population size
LGBTQ commit more sex crimes >OH YEAH? WELL WHAT ABOUT GAY REPUBLICANS AND GAY PRIESTS?
Uh, yeah. Those would be included in the LGBTQ. Was that supposed to HELP you position…?
Why is all this arguing over twitter trannies
you have a troony board on your website and most of these stereotypes dont fit 4trannies at all
go argue with them if you want good faith arguements
You need to recognize that there are two possibilities here: >You're a pathetic piece of shit that could never manage to kill something, because it'd likely outrun your fat malnourished ass. >You possess the ability for murder, but now no one is on your side like you fantasize, because you're a verified nutcase and murderer that has no place in greater human society anymore.
It's not looking so good for you anymore, poor emotional controlbro...
You have no idea how many people would jump at the chance to kill you and your fellow troonoid degens. You think the death camp workers hated their job?
I'm aware of the existence of actual insane people like yourself, yes. It comes with the territory of interacting with them on the only space where they're allowed to exist- here.
Fortunately, most of us don't have to deal with your types on a regular basis because you're either dealt with and locked into a mental institution loop until you die sedated, OR you succeed in your murder and then die.
LMAO so cute that you think there aren't people in the system, billionaires, policemen, politicians that hate your guts and want to exterminate you. It's very useful to imagine your enemies as schizos, but the truth is, the state will come for you, lock you up and then execute you. And I hope I get to pull the levers!
They're much closer to doing mass murders than you.
The "genderpunks" are an extremely authoritarian group of people wanting to change (by force) entire languages to fit their moronic ideal worldview.
They're not even trannies.
You literally can offend em with a "you will never be a troony" copypasta.
But then they will send the police to crush your skull.
Which Nintendo franchise would be my ideal alternative to Pokemon? >franchise without Fairies >I hate RPG's >anti-pokemon franchise >franchise whose target is totally opposite to that of Pokémon >franchise without cute designs
>Franchise without fairies
Do consumable fairies count? If not, Zelda is out. >I hate RPG's
Out goes Xenoblade and Fire Emblem >Anti-Pokemon franchise
No Nintendo IP is explicitly anti-Pokemon. They mostly just coexist.
>Franchise whose target is totally opposite that of Pokemon >Franchise without cute designs
Metroid
Wario
Splatoon depending on if you consider Inklings cute or not
Why do anti-troony speakers love to act moral and christian but at the same wave of the hand will celebrate other's deaths, call for their murder and dehumanization and then act "moral" (without knowing the first thing about morality)
Where's your self-standards?
>obligated
what obligation? Its an obvious hipocrisy, claiming Christian virtues only to shit on others and never for themselves. You're supposed to better yourself no matter who your """"enemy""" is (love them etc) >live up to your own?
Like what? I never call for anyone's murder or dehumanization and always play doubles advocate IRL on all issues so people dont treat each other badly.
Well first thats not dehumanizing thats generalizing, and second its referring to people in this thread who do behave that way, if you dont you'd have no reason to be bothered by what is said, simple as.
No no, Im not pretending to be moral. I am being moral. It is Very simple see.
If you are innocent, I wish you well. I hope that you find happiness and live a long life. Making mistakes is natural and part of what makes us humans.
If you are Evil, commit Evil deeds and see them as the moral good, than I pray you die.
Look at the troony cult we have nowadays, preying on young men and women. Teens think they are agender, non binary, multilate reais hemselves during the most confusing age of their lives. They are being groomed into It. That is not to say that tansgenderism might not be psychologically real, or possible, but in the magnitude we see today It is certainly unnatural and a result of sistematic grooming. If you defend this you are Evil.
You either a male looking boy or a feminine girl, no 100500 pronounces. It's the opposite to the current gender neutral bullshit, OOP is fricking moronic.
The hypothetical argument that I am positing for the sake of discussion could be seen as materialist, I suppose.
You still haven't addressed how a simple statement of that belief would be seen as morally repugnant and heavily discouraged.
neither boy nor girl is a pronoun
/thread
If this question was asked in any modern AAA game, twittergays would flip out.
is this our new cope?
What are we supposedly coping with? Oh, you can't or won't be specific? I'm shocked.
Who is Coping here you troon? The only ones I can see are the disingenuous homosexuals that pretend that you wouldnt be pissed and offended If games asked for your sex rather than your pronouns because your genitals mismatch your virtual self-visualization. Freak
Beautiful
Frick you too, cis incel chud.
You'd think that they make the entire world revolve around their moronic pronouns they'd know what is and isn't a pronoun
>it's actually a she boy.
Stop pretending to be moronic.
Stop contradicting my strawman
>OP killed himself after reading this post
All is well that ends well
This, but lets not also forget that the same people that think this is a dunk against the pronoun crap where reeeeing out at this very image because there was only a binary choice.
ackshilly sweaty, that's sex.
and kids have no business being sexed. it shouldn't be in a kids game.
Choosing your character's biological sex is different than choosing an imaginary descriptor that can differ from your character's biological reality.
>Games go back to be Boy or Girl
what if you're a girl with body type A or vice versa
Those don't exist. Men are men and women are women, every single cell in your body.
You aren't a girl in vidya if you are topless
Girls can't have body type A or penises. Girls have body type B and veganas.
>Why can’t type B be topless?
>”Because they’re a girl”
Type gays still can’t refute this
Consider the rope
I know the context of that.
>its only brought up at the start amd then never again
so why was it included? Why preserve it in the game if it’s so superfluous?
Literally for brownie points. Also free marketing from Twitter outrage.
Didn’t starfield flop?
>pronouns are superfluous
And there you go anon. It's such a non-issue, yet people choose to be outraged by it.
I think issues with gays now are blown out of proportion, they have the same rights as everyone else, yet people lose their shits over pronouns.
So it doesn't need to be in there. Got it.
I don't get how it triggers you and others.
It's basic courtesy to just go along with what people ask of you nicely.
If you meet a blind person, would you just start talking about how good it is to see? No, of course not. You'd be courteous and avoid any subjects that would upset them. Pronouns are the same, I don't have a problem if someone asks to be called something, doesn't change my personal beliefs or anything.
Not if it's affirming your insane beliefs.
If the blind person is trying to make my kids blind then I'd tell him to frick off
If Sun Ra came up to you giving you his usual spiel about how he's Jesus from Saturn do you think it's "basic courtesy" to go along with it and address him as such?
>It's basic courtesy to just go along with what people ask of you nicely.
Unless you have a very good reason not to do so, such as the understand that you are perpetuating a harmful delusion and, effectively, lying by doing so.
Also,
>ask of you nicely
That's hilarious anon, it truly is. I don't think I've ever seen a troony ask nicely, at best their pronouns are asserted with the assumption that compliance WILL follow; otherwise compliance demanded and failure to comply is met with attempted punishment.
>It's basic courtesy to just go along with what people ask of you nicely.
Eat shit. Oh, sorry, I mean eat shit, please.
> I don't have a problem if someone asks to be called something, doesn't change my personal beliefs or anything.
The issue is how authority insists on people being required to do this when it goes against their personal belief.
One set of beliefs is being promoted over the other.
>I don't have a problem if someone asks to be called something
Please refer to me as 'my liege' from now on. I feel very upset about my social status and lack of agency in life.
>I feel very upset about my social status and lack of agency in life.
We know, anon.
We know.
>It's basic courtesy to just go along
it's basic courtesy to not make unreasonable demands of others, you piece of shit.
I identify as Napoleon. You may refer to me as "L'empereur" or "Your majesty".
You realize that I'd actually do this for you if you were serious about it irl and not just being an obvious douche? We'd all think you're an unfunny fricking moron, but I'm sure people would absolutely accommodate you in this way.
>You realize that I'd actually do this for you if you were serious about it irl and not just being an obvious douche?
NTA, but at least you're consistent I suppose. Most people would find that utterly ridiculous and refuse, or acknowledge that they are participating in a blatant falsehood to humor someone who is deeply mentally ill.
You can understand why someone would feel that way, yes? Why they might, rightly, find it important not to acquiesce?
Because that's how most of us feel about calling a man 'she'.
I can understand why someone would feel that way, but not the importance.
Also who is "us"? Can you even name ten people that you personally know if I were to have you do that now?
>I can understand why someone would feel that way, but not the importance.
Because saying something you know not to be true feels like a lie. Because, as shown at
it's a little humiliation each time and it erodes at our sense of probity.
FWIW, anon, despite it rankling, I was mostly on board with accommodating people and calling them what they wanted to be called. Before it started being a requirement. Before not doing so would lead to villification and social, perhaps even physical reprisal. Before society at large and 'experts' began to pretend - and expected me to pretend - that the delusion was real, and that biological sex didn't exist. Before 'It's such a small, effortless thing to do. Can't you just be decent?' started being employed ad nauseam to push inexorably further down that road. Then it became very important not to comply.
>Also who is "us"? Can you even name ten people that you personally know if I were to have you do that now?
I won't, but I could, yes.
>Can you even name ten people that you personally know if I were to have you do that now?
>If you don't dox yourself and your loved ones right now, I win the argument
Sorry, but I identify as having won this and any other similar argument between us, and I'd appreciate it if you acted in a way that reflects that.
the actual reason is because you assume they are lying, and 99.9% are just doing a bit/fricking with you.
but some people do actually have such bizzare personalities, and guess what? They actually do end up finding people who approve of them and live out their lives with their weird ass behaviours usually without too many problems, just because you dont know any doesnt mean they dont exist.
I wouldn't, and I'd find it insulting that you'd play along with my delusions if I ever got to that state. I don't find any virtue in humoring delusions. That's just treating someone like they're inferior beings that can't handle the truth, much like how we humor childrens' delusions that Santa Claus is real.
If I have food in my teeth, you help me out much more by telling me that I have food in my teeth than telling me that my teeth are clean.
I'd tell you that you have food in your teeth, not stand on the table and yell "LOOK AT THIS FRICKIN butthole WITH THIS SHIT IN HIS TEETH HE WILL NEVER HAVE GOOD TEETH LMAO"
But I'm not demanding people not acknowledge that I have food in my teeth. I don't think I'm some sort of being that can never have food in his teeth and try to get others to believe that is the case.
Conservatives get mad when you tell them lies
Progressives get mad when you tell them the truth.
How many actual transgender people do you personally know that are demanding this of you? For a political party that talks all day about psyops and using voiceless minorities as populism pawns, you sure love to place the blame on 1% of the population themselves, rather than their self-appointed advocates.
>How many actual transgender people do you personally know that are demanding this of you?
Why do you keep trying to atomize this so much? These demands are being made on a macro level, across all of society, by multiple groups. The mechanisms are in place. If you deny a trans person in your personal life, they or somebody else can easily leverage those mechanisms against you. The demand is implied, and so is the threat of force.
Just like you know a police officer is making a demand backed by force when he nicely asks 'Can I have your licence, please?'
I blame them and their advocates, and trannies are also advocates 99/100 times. I'm usually pretty Libertarian, but it's gotten to the point where I genuinely wish the government would ban transgender surgeries like lobotomies.
>actually helping someone indulge in unhealthy delusions
You are part of the problem. I hope you don't go near children, you could be harmful to their psychological growth.
Why do you keep mentioning children? When have you ever cared about children? In what way have you given back to your community of children? How much have you donated towards making a better life for children? How many children have you raised/fostered yourself?
What is with your obsession with the sanctity of children?
I literally never mentioned children before. Also, I'm a teacher. Even I weren't, even a weeb porn addict who keeps himself to fictional chldren are less harmful to actual children than you.
There is absolutely no shot you're a teacher. Is this what adjuncts are calling themselves these days? lmao
Kek, I HAVE an adjunct, and he is a fine person, thank you, and I don't think any less of him as a person for being an adjunct as you do.
It's always funny how fast you guys go from "you should do the basic human courtesy of indulging people in their delusions" to "oh, he is <a completely normal job>? His opinions literally doesn't matter and should not even be given basic human rights.".
What basic human rights has he been denied?
Also, much like you feel about trans people being harmful to children, I think you shouldn't hold the position you supposedly have as a teacher while regularly browsing websites like these and hiding behind a mask professionally.
Your dishonesty and manipulative behavior that got you into such a position signal a MUCH greater threat to my child than some random jobless crossdresser.
By that very same logic, your children need to be taken away from you because you’re clearly a child molester for visiting this website.
That logic doesn't hold because I'm not a professional put into a position of influence over OTHER people's children. You're completely betraying the trust that each parent and faculty member places in you by default, because you're obfuscating your degeneracy by pretending to be someone you aren't for money.
So do you think teachers can’t go to a bar?
Your logic is based on a moral panic that all teachers must be certified by an authority and held to a specific standard.
Why don't you let your kids know about your bar antics during your next lesson and see how their parents take it and find out yourself?
I’m not a teacher, moron. I’m asking you a simple question: do you think teachers shouldn’t be allowed to go to a bar?
> because I'm not a professional
clearly lol. why should non professionals even be allowed to have kids anyway?
The frick-
Who the frick is you?
If someone identified as Napoleon and they were cool Id respect that
Remember that old kings and emperors used to say they were Gods'/Gods' descendants
>It's basic courtesy to just go along with what people ask of you nicely.
I'll go along with it when they start asking nicely instead of demanding me and threatening my livelihood if I don't comply
>It's basic courtesy to just go along with what people ask of you nicely.
No, it's not. Not if that thought is harmful. In this case playing into people's delusions is harmful to said person, and them expecting you to pander to you because they told you to do something is disrespectful of them because you're forcing your own ideologies onto said person who may not agree with them at all.
>If you meet a blind person, would you just start talking about how good it is to see?
Who the frick does that?
The amount of seethe this man has caused to trannies all over the internet makes him a hero by default. I literally don't even know who he is and I don't care.
Az with HeelzVsBaby face.
And yes, he is very based.
I really fricking hate how much people argue in bad faith everywhere.
have you only noticed that israelites and israelite enablers don't care about facts? it's all a show to convince people to take ~~*their*~~ side.
I know that but now this shit is just everywhere.
People live on delusion mode 24/7
The only "people" who use the terms "bad" and "good faith" are colossal turbohomosexuals who either know they have zero ground to stand on or constantly feel the need to be the victim. Frick you.
True
What term would you use to describe dishonest Black folk that obfuscate reality with incorrect analogies and anecdotes?
He's one of the bad faith people you're talking about, anon.
You have to know you won't get anything constructive out of him.
thanks for proving my point.
These are normal and obvious at a glance. It isn’t like “other”
Oak is a man of science, he's just calling it like it is
I want to see both of them in a cage fighting to death
Are you a type1? Or are you a type2?
Please note that type2 cannot take it's shirt off just because.
is choosing your pronouns like choosing your favorite pokemon?
Stop with these fricking twitter screencap threads, holy frick.
Not at all actually. It makes sense that games let you choose if you want to play as a male or a female.
This is the exact opposite of what anyone complaining about "pronouns" is arguing against
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I don't see how leftists denying science in favor of something they made up is any different than the conservative religious nuts they claimed to hate just a decade or so ago.
It’s not. It’s the same and they live in denial and just call you names when they get got
They have always denied science
Gender vs sex is chromosomes I was born with vs how I feel comfortable living
science says this is a real thing and not made up
but Ganker doesn't seem to acknowledge this point and always argues over whether hormones have any downsides or whether trannies pass or not, as if this is the most important thing about them
ironically that's trans inclusionary radical misogyny because it concludes the most important thing about a woman is how she looks unlike men who are usually given a pass on their looks
>science says this is a real thing
Hahahahahahahaha!
How can "science say this" when "how I feel comfortable living" is a purely made up thing?
same way all studies on happiness and quality of life are done I'm guessing.
but how is science proving gender is a real thing and not just a semantic exercise people made up? The studies on happiness and quality of life that you cite are completely arbitrary based on made up concepts of what constitutes happiness, not hard science.
>but how is science proving gender is a real thing and not just a semantic exercise people made up?
gender just means sex-stereotyped behaviour, and if you read more than a tweets length you'd know it acknowledges cultural differences and subtle nuances of the topic of gender expression, gender euphoria etc
>you cite are completely arbitrary based on made up concepts of what constitutes happiness, not hard science.
nah thats bullshit and you know it
>gender just means sex-stereotyped behaviour, and if you read more than a tweets length you'd know it acknowledges cultural differences and subtle nuances of the topic of gender expression, gender euphoria etc
Makes zero sense. If I don't conform to my sex-stereotyped behaviour I don't become a woman. I may just be a man who likes dancing over football or whatever.
>nah thats bullshit and you know it
How is it bullshit? You can look up the methodologies of those index and see that what gets counted is arbitrary and decided by each individual research group, this is why for example you have different "quality of life" indexes with different results.
>Makes zero sense. If I don't conform to my sex-stereotyped behaviour I don't become a woman. I may just be a man who likes dancing over football or whatever.
That's a philosophical fallacy, but fact of the matter is dysphoria is something you can be diagnosed with and gender euphoria is something that can treat it, which involves expressing yourself and being treated as your gender.
>How is it bullshit? You can look up the methodologies of those index and see that what gets counted is arbitrary and decided by each individual research group, this is why for example you have different "quality of life" indexes with different results.
Because you can apply that standard to just about everything, stressed alchoholics are miserable? Just subjective bro.
>How do you know that?
The same way I know Ganker gets triggered by bestiality in BG3, estimation. I've never seen anyone tell a pizzagate-apocalypse-troony-child-sacrifice-implyer get told "moron" on Ganker
> but fact of the matter is dysphoria is something you can be diagnosed with
women used to be prescribed orgasms to treat their clinical hysteria.
>That's a philosophical fallacy, but fact of the matter is dysphoria is something you can be diagnosed with and gender euphoria is something that can treat it, which involves expressing yourself and being treated as your gender.
First off it's not a fallacy, it's a direct application of your claim. Second, dysphoria is a mental illness. Being schizophrenic or hearing voices is also something that you can be diagnosed with and that can be treated, doesn't mean the underlying issues (the delusions) are "real".
>Because you can apply that standard to just about everything, stressed alchoholics are miserable? Just subjective bro.
Not sure what you are trying to say.
>First off it's not a fallacy, it's a direct application of your claim.
You are being anti-pragmatic - claiming that until philosophical essentialism is disproved that something that benefits people shouldn't be done.
>Second, dysphoria is a mental illness. Being schizophrenic or hearing voices is also something that you can be diagnosed with and that can be treated, doesn't mean the underlying issues (the delusions) are "real".
PTSD is also a mental illness, is the stuff that happened to that war vet not real? is the treatment telling him "just ignore it lool"?
>You are being anti-pragmatic - claiming that until philosophical essentialism is disproved that something that benefits people shouldn't be done.
You are moving the goalposts now.
>PTSD is also a mental illness, is the stuff that happened to that war vet not real? is the treatment telling him "just ignore it lool"?
I'm just refuting your claim that just because something can be diagnosed it means the underlying cause is real. People suffering from gender dysphoria doesn't mean "gender" is a real thing, it just means that some people are mentally ill. You can't even give a satisfactory definition of what constitutes it.
>You are moving the goalposts now.
How so? Your complaint stems from a philosophical argument that you yourself haven't divulged much about the issues with, which assumes biological essentialism as the crux of an individual
>I'm just refuting your claim that just because something can be diagnosed it means the underlying cause is real. People suffering from gender dysphoria doesn't mean "gender" is a real thing
Your argument is on the same tier as saying words don't exist because humans made them up and a dog wouldn't understand they exist.
> which assumes biological essentialism as the crux of an individual
Science assumes this as a standard practice.
No it doesn't. This is exclusively stuff you hear from 2010 era Black Science Man and Bill Nye shit (ironically)
t. studied biology for 2 years.
feelings are important, this board literally popularized men talking about
>THAT FEEL WHEN NO GF
to a new wave of nerds
>science doesn’t promote biological essentialism
>studied biology for 2 years
not making a great case for yourself, anon. consider how many biological studies end up with an answer other than “we don’t know”.
>consider how many biological studies end up with an answer other than “we don’t know”.
thats an argument in favor of me? Do you know what eesentialism is
No, it’s an invitation for you to consider that “I don’t know” is not an acceptable answer for a scientific paper.
Science, by necessity, insists non human factors take precedence over human factors. Its why science applied to cultural and sociological topics is always such a crapshoot.
>Science, by necessity, insists non human factors take precedence over human factors
what no it doesnt you made that up
Essentially he's saying
reals>feels
Which is how science is supposed to work, yes.
except science doesn't say reals > feels it says proof > contradiction to proof but if there is no proof science does not concern itself with the topic. And there is proof for psychiatric quality of life for dysphoric and its treatment which is dealt with by soft sciences. The rest is done by philosophy, and besides Christian "philosophers" most thinkers argued against essentialism, implying you can be reborn as different sexes or end up becoming a different ones (from the Greeks to the Buddhas)
> And there is proof for psychiatric quality of life for dysphoric and its treatment which is dealt with by soft sciences.
There is also proof that giving drugs to drug addicts improves their quality of life.
You:
>can identify what a woman is
>want to frick them
troony
>can identify what a woman is
>want to be one
>can succeed in fulfilling this need
>depressed and stressed if this need is not met
>>can succeed in fulfilling this need
LOL
Thats the point of trooning out. Who are you to post crying wojacks and tell someone else they are not happy?
>Thats the point
Yeah and it doesn't work.
it works for them, even if you dont think they pass, which is the point
>but twitter
every community on twitter, including the ones you belong to, are shit on twitter
> it works for them
And allowing a drug addict to relapse also works for them.
It doesn't.
It does. In the short term.
Breaking their dependency on substance abuse is a much better solution. Enablement can sometimes help ween people off, but it also enables people to prolong their addiction.
no, but providing safer environments and decriminalizing drugs does help them, however unrelated that is
No it doesn't are you moronic? Seattle tried that and it's a hell hole
>No it doesn't are you moronic?
yes it does, portugal and spain did it and it vastly improved things
>but America
not real humans
It doesn't. Letting them continue hitting drugs over and over is not helping them. And even if we equipped everyone with NARCAN pens to help a druggie out if they start OD'ing nearby so they don't kill themselves, it's not desirable to let a segment of the population continually abuse chemicals to trip balls 24/7 since there is no way for that to be fair. They can't possibly earn money while constantly under the influence, so they resort to stealing. If the government pays them, it's unfair to the people working who have to suffer so some jackass can shoot up in public and zonk the frick out.
The correct solution is to flay drug dealers alive and put their heads on pikes around town as a warning to others. Singapore doesn't go far enough.
https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/is-portugals-drug-decriminalization-a-failure-or-success-the-answer-isnt-so-simple/
Literally first google
Notice how you both lean on the same, single study to back up your claim? But ignore all studies that disagree with your claim?
Thats not science.
>But ignore all studies that disagree with your claim?
lmao link one
Vancouver and Portland have safe injection sites.
Have their drug abuse statistics improved?
To be clear the way to resolve drug abuse is to not insulate druggies from the consequences.
If you can't pass drug tests, no free or low cost government housing: You go out in the streets and die if you can't pay your way.
Again, it’s counter productive to use appeasement in treatment of a drug addiction.
By the same logic, appeasing the belief that a man is really a woman does not help address the underlying issue at hand.
Initial Results of Portugal’s New Drug Policies
By 2018, Portugal’s number of heroin addicts had dropped from 100,000 to 25,000. Portugal had the lowest drug-related death rate in Western Europe, one-tenth of Britain and one-fiftieth of the U.S. HIV infections from drug use injection had declined 90%. The cost per citizen of the program amounted to less than $10/citizen/year while the U.S. had spent over $1 trillion over the same amount of time. Over the first decade, total societal cost savings (e.g., health costs, legal costs, lost individual income) came to 12% and then to 18%.
International acclaim for Portugal’s originally maligned ‘experiment’ came from sources as varied as the American Psychological Association, Vancouver Sun, and The Guardian. Still, in 2017, The Guardian reported local frustration with inaction regarding supervised injection sites, overdose treatment, and needle exchange programs in prisons. In short, some feared insufficient recognition of the ongoing need to maintain “a web of health and social rehabilitation services.”
So both of you were completely wrong yet believed what you said based on stereotypes
lmaoaoo
Here is one of those negative consequences that these studies will never discuss.
https://www.koin.com/news/used-syringes-litter-portland-as-needle-exchanges-grow/amp/
How is the homeless drug addict situation on the west coast anyway?
idk Im not American and cant open that article but Im guessing
are the problem
>defying literal proof because you dont like the narrative it implies
niGGer
yeah, you just are a moron then, okay.
Alcohol is illegal in many muslim countries. And I bet America has more alcoholics than all those muslim countries combined
>make drugs legal
>less people now are addicted to drugs
I'm sorry anon but you are moronic if you believe this
>Portugal
WHO GIVES A FLYING FRICK ABOUT SOME FOURTH WORLD COUNTRY'S STATISTICS?
I do.
t. Defender of Portugal
1. I don't care about the death rates of druggies. That's not a metric I'm particularly concerned with when making policy.
2. Hungary is super harsh on drugs and had 48 overdose deaths in 2020 to Portugal's 63. In the same year, equally harsh Bulgaria had 24 overdoses to Portugal's 63.
>The reporters note that drug use, overdoses, and drug‐related crime have increased from 2019–2023. They report that the percentage of adults reported to have used illicit drugs was 12.8 percent in 2022, compared to 7.8 percent in 2001.
https://www.cato.org/blog/washington-post-letter-editor-about-portugals-drug-decriminalization
Unironically, you have to prepare for relapse and just kind of hope that they don't do it, or at least they do it and don't frick up.
But drug addicts have a real disease and being obsessed with trooning yourself is a combination of grooming and mental illness that isn't treated.
Addiction is also a mental disease. Point is, you don’t treat mental disease by appeasement.
Except this troonery is literally being groomed by pedophiles and other malefactors.
John Money was a pedophile who experimented on two children.
That anyone uses his research as anything but a warning that any of his conclusions are, at best, ludicrous and, at worst, proof that the scientific community needs moral guidance is proof that there are very evil people in charge of funding a lot of social science.
>That anyone uses his research as anything but a warning that any of his conclusions are
nobody uses his research as proof because of what he did, they use his failed research (the 2 kids identified as men instead of women but were forced into acting female) as proof. You're pushing the narrative made up by /misc/ and popularized by E;R (some Ganker Avatar youtuber who makes videos about cartoons)
Aka using it as a warning, tard
Money
>took 2 poorly circumsized kids who didnt identify female
>made them act female for no reason
>they were depressed and sudokud because they were acting against their gender
what DIDNT happen
>kids identified female
>he treated them as such
>they sudokud
Money is an example of the type of people who exist behind transgender research. Its a criticism against people who think children can have such strong positions on their sexual identity, people who typically have less kids than more.
>it works for them
>as long as we can get literally every person on the planet to maintain the delusion
lol
It would be much harder to make people let men act feminine. Trooning out is at least manageable.
Men are allowed to act feminine but that comes with downsides, and men can pretend to be women and they also comes with downsides. The issue people have is the attempt to forcibly remove the downsides of the latter through top down social control.
> It would be much harder to make people let men act feminine.
Every rockstar disagrees with you.
/v/irgins will continue being mad about trannies until every person condones their anti-troony ideals. Clearly they are morally lacking.
Yes, because that makes the world safer for children.
>[x] will continue being mad about [y] until every person condones their [z] ideals. Clearly they are morally lacking.
You do realize that this is the single most basic political position possible for any person to have, right? It's literal NPC thinking, "They disagree with me, therefore they're wrong and evil."
the point was to make irony of the original poster's absurd statement anon, don't pretend you do not see it.
They clearly aren’t happy if it hinges on being accepted by society as a woman.
Just like people suffering from anorexia, the need to affirm their inner image will never be satisfied. Their own self consciousness will be projected on society so long as they believe society believes in the difference between men and women.
"troony"
>Don't actually want to be a woman, but its a group that gives a bunch of power
>Have this "gender is a social construct" as their mantra
>Want to enforce the complete destruction of gender
>In many cases has a powerful daddy that can give em the power to enforce it
>Will probably end up causing the death of millions
Sounds like depression. Maybe their desire to be a woman is the issue here?
>How so? Your complaint stems from a philosophical argument that you yourself haven't divulged much about the issues with, which assumes biological essentialism as the crux of an individual
Because I'm not claiming "that something that benefits people shouldn't be done", I'm just arguing that there's no hard data supporting the existence of "gender" as it is just an arbitrary concept that someone made up with no biological basis.
>Your argument is on the same tier as saying words don't exist because humans made them up and a dog wouldn't understand they exist.
Well yeah, words are arbitrary and made up, a tree is a tree regardless of the word you use to call it, just as a woman is a woman regardless of her sex-stereotyped behavior.
The fact that you have to get so philosophical to defend something that everyone innately understands, proves my point.
>Because I'm not claiming "that something that benefits people shouldn't be done", I'm just arguing that there's no hard data supporting the existence of "gender" as it is just an arbitrary concept that someone made up with no biological basis.
Then you don't have an argument?
>Well yeah
Talking about words as a concept?
>The fact that you have to get so philosophical to defend something that everyone innately understands, proves my point.
You were implying philosophy in the first place in regards to what is "objective", do you know what topics the field of philosophy covers?
all nonsense. Give me data supporting the existence of a "gender" that can be defined and doesn't rely on arbitrary interpretations and words salads, or frick off
>all nonsense. Give me data supporting the existence of a "gender"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7441311/
Also those who identify as males who are forced into behaving feminine against their will also experience dyshporia
Tomboys and effeminate men exist. Doesn't mean they need to chop their wiener off, or take skin from their arm to make a fake wiener
>Tomboys and effeminate men exist. Doesn't mean they need to chop their wiener off, or take skin from their arm to make a fake wiener
good job on arguing FOR "gender as a spectrum" anon, always great to see more allies!
Masculine traits and feminine traits have always existed in both sexes. They do not turn a binary into a spectrum.
That's not gender on a spectrum though moron. A tomboy is still a woman and an effeminate man is still a man.
>Having an interest in things mean gender is different.
Are you moronic, by chance? Does that mean a woman is a man if she likes math?
Idk, I think its quite simple but you just havent talked to the audience about it
hows this as an explanation
>what if a AMAB likes to wear dresses/makeup and do things considered stereotypically feminine for the time because the homie feels left bad and unnatural identifying with men in the same way you recognize the distinction between your male friends and female friends
>trying to do things that fit in as male feel bad, trying to do things that fit in as female feel good
no matter what gender, people arent just stereotypes but saying "gender cant differentiate between what feels culturally femme/masc" is like saying "men and women cant feel each other as being masc fem"
the counterpoint to which is (You)r sexuality which you clearly wouldn't say is gay as it decides if it likes women and not men
Please rewrite your post in English. I don't understand the language you posted
I didn't ask for a wall of text, Black person. I asked if you were moronic, and if a woman liking math makes her need a wiener.
>Tomboys and effeminate men exist. Doesn't mean they need to chop their wiener off
according to trannies, they do. sorry champ, them's the rules.
Congrats, you proved that mental illnesses exist.
Let's say there was a country on Earth where the gender roles or whatever you wanna call them were reversed. Would a trans person become non trans travelling there?
>if a gay top goes to ancient rome is he still a gay?
its answered by "human interaction instead of assuming everyone is just a stereotype who only does 1 thing"
> Also those who identify as males who are forced into behaving feminine against their will also experience dyshporia
Dysphoria just sounds like emotional trauma.
dysphoria isnt categorized as trauma but can cause trauma from having to suppress your desires for long, similar to autists who suppress their stimming needs in public and can suffer from it, ergo it is moral to let trannies behave how they want
I shouldnt have to point out that social discsrimination at all can also cause stress
> dysphoria isnt categorized as trauma
Maybe it should be
>PTSD is also a mental illness,
Yes and when someone with PTSD thinks fireworks are gunfire and the CIA is following him to the grocery store he is given therapy and meds to get over it, not told his delusions are objective reality.
>Yes and when someone with PTSD thinks fireworks are gunfire and the CIA is following him
thats not ptsd
Paranoia is a ptsd symptom moron
but thats not what ptsd is. You dont cure/treat ptsd by curing/treating paranoia.
Treat the symptoms to manage the condition, moron. Or are you going to argue it's better to allow the guy to beat the shit out of random people for looking at him wrong? Is that his personal identity that should be validated?
Paranoia is an emergent symptom, it's not fundamental to PTSD nor is it necessarily a problem for a vet to get scared of fireworks and think its the CIA. Similar to how solving the bleeding doesn't treat the whole of an infected wound
>it's not fundamental to PTSD
Where the frick did I ever say it was, moron?
re-read
, dysphoria is a mental illness. Being schizophrenic or hearing voices is also something that you can be diagnosed with and that can be treated, doesn't mean the underlying issues (the delusions) are "real".
>PTSD is also a mental illness, is the stuff that happened to that war vet not real? is the treatment telling him "just ignore it lool"?
>People suffering from gender dysphoria doesn't mean "gender" is a real thing, it just means that some people are mentally ill. You can't even give a satisfactory definition of what constitutes it
you summarized mental illness as being predominantly about delusions, hope you understand
That isn't me, that's the person I was replying to, moron. And it doesn't even say what you claim, it says that treatable delusions aren't real, moron.
gender is a synonym for sex and a linguistic term, anything beyond that is dishonest appropriation to create ambiguity where none exists
>gender is a synonym for sex and a linguistic term
stop with the anti-semitism, goy
and energy didn't used to mean "matter" until 20th century scientists found a new way to use it
>and energy didn't used to mean "matter" until 20th century scientists found a new way to use it
That was used to strengthen definitional accuracy, not intentionally dilute it. You know, like science is supposed to do.
energy had entirely different connotations before that and had little basis in being associated with matter in that way, its just scientists really suck at naming things (which is why so much stuff is named after scientists themselves)
plenty of things are possible, its accounting for all those variables that enables gender expression in the first place.
Gender expression doesn't exist, it's a made up concept
>but all concepts are ma-
shut the frick up, you're not as clever as you think you are
concepts exist because they observe and define truthful, purposeful ideas, this is neither of those
it's just nonsense that's been made up wholesale, and you lap it up because some guy in a lab coat said to
men can't be women, women can't be men, masculine traits and feminine traits exist but gender is not a spectrum
>drinking alchohol makes you feel terrible
>you remove alchohol from your life
>somehow this is "fake living" and you were instead supposed to manually observe each molecule of your cell to realize that alchohol was bad for you
Completely irrelevant, since alcohol isn't a concept and its effects are not made up
what about the implications of positive thinking? Its been proven negative thinkign makes you miserable and less productive and positive thinking helps you. Shit, look at leaders through history and their motivational speeches, or marching bands in armies. Its still feeling. Even art falls under this if you want to go that far.
>positive thinking
thoughts are known to exist and known to influence the thinker
gender expression is still made up nonsense
You are actually moronic anon
no
Is this supposed to help your position in not being moronic?
>gender just means sex-stereotyped behaviour,
you bigoted, mysoginistic piece of shit. you right wing chud! women can enjoy men's hobbies and way of dressing as well.
you should be executed for your intolerance, you racist, bigoted chud!
under the guise of science, they attacked taxonomy, because redefinition doesn't require hard data, only disigenuous argument
and the catastrophic result of their dishonesty is this rank and file moron you see before you, repeating everything they say with a sense of unassailable authority
>science says this is a real thing
No. Science has no opinion on how one culture or another categorizes things.
>sex is real, gender is feelings
Correct.
Leftist science isn't real science. It doesn't even use the Scientific Method founded by noted right-wing philosopher Francis Bacon. Real science is inherently conservative since they both stem from the philosophy of Francis Bacon. That's why Conservative countries like America, Canada, and the UK are responsible for 98%+ of all major inventions (IE, refrigeration, flight, steam engine, automobiles, electricity, sanitation, and so on), and as soon as they stopped being Conservative the scientific breakthroughs slowed way down.
You cannot have real science without Empiricism, and nothing about transgenderism passes the Empiricist sniff test.
>science says this is a real thing and not made up
there two very important points to this
1. Science can also be political to further a agenda, famous example is nazi science and its eugenics programs, if the government or some rich company don't want to fund research that might prove gender theory wrong, you will have tons of research only telling you gender theory is correct
2. The entire point of the scientific method is that it can be challenged, science is not a religion, you shouldn't use logical falacies when discussing it like this moron here
Personally I didn't care about trannies until everyone started telling me to worship them, and "science" might say there's real women, but when I look at them, I see men.
>logical fallacies are not ok
>its ok for me to use hyperbole and just straight up lie about EVERYONE telling me to WORSHIP trannies
yeah ok there moron lmao
>turns on TV
>someone is talking about how brave trannoid jones is for transitioning
>plays videogame
>troony flag on the car, troony flag on buildings
>watch TV show
>entire arc about some troony coming out
It's not hyperbole, they want to force this shit.
Go into a public space and announce that you don't believe trans women are women. Post it on social media. Say it at work. Say it in your comment section of choice. Make sure to attach your name to it.
See what reaction you get.
Why would I need to go out and shit on people that have nothing to do with me? You could make this argument for literally anything involving being an butthole and public menace.
You say we're not being pressured to worship trannies yet you liken a direct, even-tempered statement about the falsehood of transgender fundamentals with being a public menace.
Why is it shitting on people to say that you simply do not believe their their identity transcends biology?
>Why is it shitting on people to say that you simply do not believe their their identity transcends biology?
this is materialism and makes you a brainlet on the same tier as Twitter Science Black person
I swear at some point you morons will unironically fall for "Hitler drank water too" tier shitposts
So you agree that a statement of basic fact (or belief, if you prefer) is treated as a morally repugnant act and heavily discouraged.
No, the morally repugnant act being discouraged is the method, behavior, and underlying motivations- not the message.
I'm not sure how you're failing to understand this?
>No, the morally repugnant act being discouraged is the method, behavior, and underlying motivations- not the message.
So in what circumstances am I allowed to publicly express this belief, that for the sake of this discussion I sincerely hold and desire to express in good faith?
Get invited onto Fox News
So I am only allowed to express my view if I am given a platform on a national news network?
If I do that, can I reasonably expect to be free from reprisal?
I never said that.
And the public menace part comes from bringing down others without provocation. You're allowed to believe in whatever you choose, but going out and proclaiming it to people that have no choice but to be around you and have no interest in what you have to say is not whatever you're trying to frame it as.
I'm allowed to believe in whatever I choose, but I'm just not allowed to, you know, say it. That would be morally reprehensible.
But society doesn't enforce worship of trannies, nosir.
counter point: isnt there a whole swathe of Fox News/Desaints anti troony shit, you know, still not without jobs? Like you only get fired for that shit in shitholes like Cali? Im not American
They have jobs but they are heavily vilified by the reigning establishment, regularly called a danger to democracy and their views threatened with suppression.
as an eastern yuro Id much rather trannies than low iq hooligan culture pseudo conservativism that is popular here
trust me, you don't
I don't believe you understand a single word that you just wrote.
if only you knew how bad things are here
right back athcha bub
when you said 'here' I thought you meant Ganker, my mistake
Sorry you have to deal with that shit
>Go into a public space and announce that you don't believe trans women are women.
Go into a public space and announce that you hate israelites/palestinians/Black folk/spics/women/ukranians etc
You don't believe that israelites exist?
Absolutely not. I value my life.
>no one has made any good rebuttals yet
uh... so are we actually in the wrong here?
First post literally immediately debunks the argument, you false flagging moron.
COPE
>frogposter
>not moronic
pick one and only one
why even respond to it?
For the sake of lurkers and newbies
you can't lose an argument if you ignore all of ypur opponent's rebuttals.
based moron with nothing better to do
Pronouns are a plot from them to get us, and that makes me angry.
I feel bad for anyone reading these ritualistic threads. Just so you know that there's always an answer to every question out there, even if the answers are the ones that you don't like.
>Positive cultural changes happen in a civilized society
Stop the presses.
>positive
Tell me then, what is the negative impact about changing "male/female" to "body type a/b"?
From my point of view the majority of people doesn't care, a minority enjoys it and a very small minority gets mad about it.
Validates negative mental issues.
If they want to do the body type shit, it makes more sense to have masculine/feminine unless you add a body type C
dehumanizing
>a minority enjoys it and a very small minority gets mad about it
Switch these two, troony.
What’s the positive? It makes more people angry than people happy lmao
Who is angry that actually matters?
in b4 narcissism makes u say u
My community and everyone on the planet who thinks like my community
>Why is forcing pseudo scientific transexual dogma down kids' throats a bad thing
Sexual dimorphism exists, gender is based on that biological reality not some kind of ideological game. Trying to use language to dissociate the concept of body types and growth being biologically determined by male or female genes is moronic. Grooming children to take experimental drugs and mutilate themselves is evil. Therefore it's a problem.
Why do you speak so authoritatively on this subject? What background do you have in this field? What education or certifications or experience do you have that sets you apart from any idiot just giving his uninformed opinion on the internet?
I need to know if I'm learning from an actual expert worth learning from, because you could just as easily be a literal schizophrenic druggie porn addicted child porn collector that is rambling nonsense, especially given the nature of this website.
I am 100% willing to listen and learn, but you need to do a better job at setting the foundation as to WHY, instead of just shouting out stupid shit based on vibes.
You don't need to be an ~~*expert*~~ to know that chopping off a kid's penis is bad, moron
I don't even want to know how many hours you spend thinking about kid penis.
You need a job, buddy.
If you're that much against working for the mercantile class, at least get an all-american job that gets you working with your hands, so that we don't have to continue seeing you put it to a keyboard to type moronic shit.
I'm not going to listen to some moron that probably barely scored his GED, giving his stupid takes on Ganker with no sources or credibility.
Why are you so angry at him? Also, can you stop using harmful language like r*tard?
You're the one wanting to chop off penises, not me, so the burden of proof is on you that it's fine
I also graduated college with a business degree and and have a job right out of college above the median salary. So you're again being moronic and deflecting.
>business degree
KEK
Nevermind, it suddenly all makes so much sense now. Why didn't you just say that to begin with, you moron? Now I'm DEFINITELY not listening to some dipshit that probably plateaued at a C in Stats.
>You're a moron that probably barely got a GED
I graduated college
>th-that doesn't count!!
Cope, seethe, dilate, etc.
>probably plateaued at a C in Stats
You're putting yourself on a pretty high pedestal, since not even most math nerds can be trusted to do statistics right. Wouldn't you be busy doing other shit with your 300k starting career than be on Ganker of all places?
He's a disingenuous shitposter, anon.
He probably doesn't even believe the shit he's posting and is just on his lunch break, getting a laugh from anons taking him seriously.
Go draw some more Assigned Male, Sophie, I need something to laugh at
holy shit HAHAHAHA
Ganker is truly, the worst board
>I am 100% willing to listen and learn
No you’re not.
I surely am, but I'm not going to listen to someone just saying words. That guy could be a fricking bag boy at Sprouts, trying to give us all a dissertation on the horrors of penis chopping that isn't actually happening anywhere (except circumcision), and I'm supposed to add this to my knowledge database because it has sick vibes? C'mon now, brainlets.
No, moron is the best word. homosexual is the second best word. These slurs are the spices of the English language.
Do you seriously believe having a piece of paper that says you spent four years reading and writing wankery makes you intelligent or privy to some objective knowledge?
Tell me how I know you've never accomplished anything in your life.
>muh endgame
Holy shit, so you just open up with admitting everything you say is just made up in your own head? At least take me out for some beers first.
>Tell me how I know you've never accomplished anything in your life.
You're an arrogant and condescending prick who thinks he knows everything even when you're dead wrong, that's how. You're probably the type to say "I don't need a gun, the police will protect me"
trust the experts, get your 50th booster
>Anon is so moronic he relies on argumentum ad vericundiam and ad hominem for all of his opinions
>Something that most people learn in high school is stupid
You hate to see it. Yeah so the reason I know sexual dimorphism exists is because I passed my hs biology class
>HS Biology
LMAO Why leave it at that? Why not source Middle School biology next? I'm glad to know the entire foundation of your understanding on the subject ends at 101.
That's true business degree homie shit.
>I'm glad to know the entire foundation of your understanding on the subject ends at 101.
Yes, you are so incorrect that even 101 biology disagrees with you. Sexual dimorphism exists, there is only male and female and the entire transexual ideological issue of deconstructing what is male or female is a non issue to hard science.
AND your still arguing on authority like a fricking moron even after I told you it's a logical fallacy
>your
how do i add anonymous to filter
>I see you made a typo
About what I expected
go back to debate club loser lmao
if you want to play grabass with buzzwords go join hasan's chat
>Why do you speak so authoritatively on this subject?
He's a normal functioning human.
>What background do you have in this field?
He's a normal functioning human.
>What education or certifications or experience do you have that sets you apart from any idiot just giving his uninformed opinion on the internet?
He's a normal functioning human.
This shit was basic commonly understood knowledge that propagated our species for 300,000 years, and the species of our ancestors for millions of years before that.
>b-but muh twospirit, muh tribal shit I have no idea what it actually is but I can purposefully misinterpret it to reinforce my delusions!
Shut up, disingenuous moron.
It was a mistake to stop dashing morons like you against rocks.
>normal
>posts on Ganker Ganker about kid dicks
>immediately fantasizes violence when angry
LOL, LMAO even.
>relentlessly push to get kids dicks removed
>people try to stop you from taking kids dicks
>"LOL you're so obsessed with kids dicks!"
I would say 'gradually I began to hate them' but there was nothing gradual about it, subhuman scum
You wouldn't say that, because it would be a lie. Your entire stance is predicated on notions that you've fabricated within your own mind, based on your own fears. Nothing about what you're saying involving kids or their genitals exists in reality. You couldn't point out even 5 examples of sex surgery on minors if asked to do so. Your platform is built on vibes, and nothing you do or say in life has anything to do with actually helping kids, because you probably couldn't even name 5 kids that you'd want to help prevent this for (No, the filenames of the ones you keep on your external drive does niot count).
do not*
nta i am above this and you
No, surgical transition for minors is your endgame, for now you've not been allowed to go further than destroying their minds, their families, and chemically ruining their bodies
They do do surgery on minors though. Pretty sure the troony doctor in What is a Woman admitted to doing it to a 16 year old
>they do, as a matter of FACT
>pretty sure
>cites grifter documentary made by an equally uninformed and unqualified source with a political bias and no higher education
Brother.........
It's literally a troony in the documentary that admits to it. Can't find the clip but it was this surgeon
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna91359
cope more 41%er
>higher education
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm new to the thread. I just saw your moronic post and wanted to call you a moron.
>immediately fantasizes violence when angry
This is normal. We've violently erased everything even slightly different from us since before we were even Homos, let alone Sapiens.
We're tall hairless paranoid chimps.
Do not pretend you are above this nature, moron. You are the same as everyone else.
There is unfortunately no provable basis for either side. Psychological studies disagree on it, even my professors at university disagreed on it.
Therefore all that one can give you are subjective morals and opinions. I don't think this necessarily makes them disingenuous or stupid. You are the same. You have nothing that necessarily can be argued as proof against it, nor for it. You are willing to listen, but no one here has anything to teach you. You have wandered into a public square and demanded to speak to an expert, when even the experts cannot agree, and none are present to begin with. Harm is just a word, defined by humans. Some would consider killing and eating elderly human beings non-harmful. Most would consider it harmful and immoral. That's the key: Consider.
Personally, so I don't get jumped by confused, angry people, I am not supportive of doing anything to kids like that, but I've come to just know that the type A vs B stuff is an effortless aspect of appeasement that will not be removed from anything the west gets now, because regardless of if it matters or not, it will produce more negative reactions now if not included.
TLDR it's a matter of opinion and morals what is good or bad here, so there's no experts. You will not find them here
> There is unfortunately no provable basis for either side
Then why do corporations and policy makers feel the need to take action?
Truth is that the studies don’t matter, and are actively financed in order for people in power to justify doing what they want.
Because it makes them money? Corporations are not run by people with bleeding hearts, they are run by businessmen.
And yes, the studies by their very nature cannot prove anything. Psychology does not prove. It tells you that there's a likelihood within a reasonable margin of error, or that two things are correlated. Some things cannot strictly be proven. Did you know that while it is generally accepted that smoking cigarettes causes cancer, it has not technically been outright proven? For it to be proven one would have to conduct experiments that are unethical and involve children. But it's silly to argue it does not cause it, because common sense dictates that such high correlation between the two factors would indicate a relationship.
Tangent aside, yes, it's all for money. They don't hide it.
So you agree the studies are all for money?
Well if they're conducted by a university, yes, they need grant money to live and retain their positions, no matter how worthless the study. A professor told me this.
It is for the corporate entities receiving funding, even if the organizations funding them have other goals.
It's hilarious that people still think profit is the primary motivator behind these entities.
The extremely lucrative 'gender affirmation' industry certainly can't hurt.
Same with the covid jab.
>covid jab
So is everyone who is anti troony also anti jab? I need to make sure EVERYONE who is anti troony is also anti jab so I can screenshot in the future for this guy
>So is everyone who is anti troony also anti jab?
Many are, because both are dishonest grifts being pushed by the same dishonest people via the same dishonest methods.
But not everyone, no.
>it's dishonest to believe that surgical mutilation of your genitals does not make you a woman
>>it's dishonest to believe that surgical mutilation of your genitals does not make you a woman
I am saying the opposite.
Trans shit and vaccine shit are both being pushed dishonestly.
stop responding to bait
>civilized
so pokemon was always woke, is that it?
I’ll never understand what the problem with pronoun options is
if you want your boy character to be called she then go for it, since when did character customization options become a bad thing?
The social philosophy of a minority is forced on a majority in a very patronizing way. Its not hard to understand where the animosity comes from.
When the attempts to force us into pretending/gaslight us into believing that biological sex doesn't or matter started.
>doesn't or matter
this homie retorded
sex doesnt matter because if it did you'd be fricked cuz u never gettin any LMAO
doesn't exist or matter*
my fingers are retorded
>sex doesnt matter because if it did you'd be fricked cuz u never gettin any LMAO
not an argument, but leftists can't make those
It's a video game. No matter if you want to be a boy or a girl, you just pick the one you want.
Why are libtards so disingenuous?
>Why are libtards so disingenuous?
disingenuous how? in my experience rightoids are always the most disingenuous.
>n-no u
bravo
>NO U
You're an idiot, you're lying, or both.
Because modern Western leftism is designed to be as subversive as possible, especially when it comes to culture. If you don't believe me, read about the Frankfurt school.
What the other guy who replied to you said, read any Frankfurt school philosophy and it quite literally says "frick morals, frick being genuine, always argue in bad faith, use every underhanded tactic and sophistry to subvert and get your way because the west is EVIL". They feel justified in being insufferable lying pieces of shit because they believe you to be ontologically evil. It's not like the feelings you have against them, i. e. that they are misguided, can (and should) be reasoned with, should strive to find a middle ground etc, no. They HATE you. They want you and people like you demoralised and dead, and they want to spit on your grave. They have no boundaries.
because they're all about "owning the chuds." they're every bit as hateful and irrational as their imagined enemies. they're the ultimate projection machines.
this is actual unprompted projection though lol
you trannies hate anyone who doesn't play your sick game of pretend. you trannies unequivocally the ones who are sick.
im not a troony
once again this is some weird self own projection shit
are you really this moronic lmao why even throw words around if you dont know what youre talking about
idc about amerifat politics- i just think you, yourself, are just massively moronic and need to know that someone else on this planet thinks that
>I think
you don't think, stupid troony. you claim your enemies are hateful and intolerant, yet at the end of the day you're the one who's just that. you can't stand people with different opinions, so you try to paint them as evil by attempting to redefine what's bigoted and discriminatory.
tl;dr you're no different from a fascist.
>m-muh credentials
>m-muh experts
anyone knows chopping off your dick leads to extinction, among a whole host of other complications. you don't have to be an ~~*expert*~~ to recognize self-evident truths.
>you claim your enemies are hateful and intolerant
and intolerant
troony.
>you can't stand people with different opinions, so you try to paint them as evil by attempting to redefine what's bigoted and discriminatory.
>you're no different from a fascist.
>>try to paint them as evil by attempting to redefine what's bigoted and discriminatory
>>you're no different from a fascist.
>anyone knows chopping off your dick leads to extinction
>>The projected world population on Jan. 1, 2024 is 8,019,876,189, up 75,162,541 (0.95%)
>you claim your enemies are hateful and intolerant
>claim
troony
>>~~*expert*~~
Is it not physically painful to be perceived while being this moronic?
did your algorithm break?
I'm saying that you've literally demonstrated every single thing you're trying to call out your "opponents" for, within your own fricking post.
I'm not him, but he's right
saying 'no u' doesn't change reality any more than pretending to be a woman does
>do we have any rebuttal here?
One is wanting people to call you a specific way that might not be accurate to what you are
The other is just choosing what gender (sex) you are
These people don't know the difference between biological sex with the human species and grammatical rules which are very different for a lot of languages? Or are they pretending to be moronic?
They do know and are failing to change it with x shit, like latino/latina into latinx.
it was intentionally confused by the "sexologist" John Money some 50 years ago
before then, nobody considered grammatical gender (something english got rid of anyway) and sex to be the same thing
Oh yeah, John Money, the pedophile who took advantage of a little boy who was injured as a newborn and his twin brother and made the injured boy so traumatized that he committed suicided as an adult later. Why does anyone listen to this piece of shit?
The kids never identified as female though, John Moneys point was that you can raise men as women and make them think they're women, while modern trans theory is that it's about how people feel, ergo why Money is never included.
Yes
Read information from the other side instead of only form your side and you'll see you're only reading selective information by people with ulterior motives.
>you'll see you're only reading selective information by people with ulterior motives.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
*wheeze*
HAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
you only get your troony info from Ganker and probably obscure discords
youve never even googled anything about the topic in your life
you just trust this random anon isn't trusting some other random anon who isn't trusting some other random anon who isn't trusting some other random anon who isn't trusting some other random anon who isn't trusting some other random anon who isn't trusting some other random anon who isn't trusting some other random anon who isn't trusting some other random anon who
Do you actually believe this?
Get a grip, dude.
you have googled it, researched it, actually looked up other sources besides other anons? can you tell me what the discrepancy between them and what anons post on Ganker is?
Yes.
>what the discrepancy is
Crass language.
It's called observable reality. I guess you wouldn't know anything about that since you get all your information from carefully curated, paid for propaganda masquerading as genuine science.
you get your info from anons who believe this is a pizza-gate war on Christianity by demons who want to murder children. Yet you've never told an anon who posts that "no, that's moronic" to set intellectual standards and instead indirectly approve of them.
"gender dysphoria" and "gender euphoria" is real.
>Yet you've never told an anon who posts that "no, that's moronic" to set intellectual standards and instead indirectly approve of them.
How do you know that? Do you have a record of every post I've ever made? I'd like you to cite your sources please. If you reply with anything except sources you're outright admitting that you're a massive moron. Sorry I don't make the rules.
You are the demon who wants to murder children.
'Euphoria boners' are real, which says everything you need to know
Why do these freaks always type like this when they get desperate? Is it some attempt to project the idea that they find the whole situation laughable? Because it always looks really insecure, all they’re saying is “yes this is so funny I’m totally laughing at you right now, can’t you see men laughing”. It’s e
Because the absurdity and irony are genuinely hilarious.
You're just too ignorant to get the joke.
2 genders isn't woke
I have no idea how to romhack, but I wish someone would edit the text to say
"Are you body type 1?
Or are you body type 2?"
Well, get to it
https://github.com/pret/pokecrystal/tree/master/data/text
>Still posting this like it's an own
it is an own tho
I'm body type A but wish I was body type B
sorry to hear that anon, I hope you find happiness
>be me, a little girl in the late 90s
>playing Pokemon Blue, the game is really fun, just name the MC after myself and pretending he's a cool tomboy because no female option but it's not preventing me from loving the game
>playing Crystal later
>love it just as much, see there's a female option who's a cute tomboy with cute hair, really happy about it
>picking female options for all the next games, liking most of the new fashion and haircut options starting from gen 6
>suddenly gen 9 comes out, the male and female MC look almost the exact same and all the fashion options are hideous school/scout uniforms
>learn soon later it's allegedly meant to be inclusive
>mfw Game Freak is trying to be more inclusive by excluding the female options for actual female players even though they successfully and effortlessly were inclusive in almost all the previous games
you are a man
Not sure if you're a troony or not but that's pretty accurate, I don't want to play as ugly girls that look like boys.
Not a troony, I have XX chromosomes thank god.
No you don't troony
Don't forget your daily dilation, sis
pick me
except she doesnt actually achieve anything because she comes to simp for Ganker of all places
i guess thats what happens when youre too fat for OF
>Bioholes are all monoliths that exclusively disagree with me - and if they do agree with me they're doing it for some underhanded reason.
what is a biohole
youre biofat homie
A biohole - or 'Legacy Biohole' - is a woman (real).
A woman, a real one
I like that "breasts or gtfo" has morphed into "you will never be a woman" when alleged femanons post. Interesting cultural shifts are happening to time honored institutions.
I was thinking about posting that but decided to call her a troony instead
the first pokemon game that allowed you to choose your gender was crystal, but it didn't have professor oak in the intro
in fact, 8-bit professor oak never asked you about your gender
why are you telling lies on the internet, OP
is it because you are too young to remember the original games
OP isn't lying, the twitter poster is, OP's post is about the twxt's argument
And it's a minor anachronism that has no bearing on anything anyway, who fricking cares
the funny thing about the body type 1 and 2 shit is that modern character design is so hideous half the time you cant even tell which is meant to be male or female.
You're just moronic or blind, but probably both
>You're just moronic or blind, but probably both
You take their clothes off when making the charter moron. Also the bandit on the right is clearly the woman.
You also provided one example of mostly fully clothed people. If you look at Palworld or Starfield it's clear which one is male or female.
And even in the other two you can see their face is either male or female. Unironically go take an eye exam anon
Even when you throw them in a dress, Type B barely looks feminine.
But how will I know if Trolls will aggro my character now?
A lot of people accidentally chose female Dragonborn in BG3, because the visual differences weren't obvious and the body type shit is stupidly ambiguous (which is intentional)
>Dragonborn
Why hasn't Bethesda sued them over this shit, lmao
Dragonborn existed in D&D at least 4 years before Skyrim was released. But maybe the term was used in an earlier Elder Scrolls game?
Holding other people emotionally accountable for your discreet choices on pronoun definitions is more tyrannical than the functional social norms it attempts to usurp. Creating pointless additional categorizations that don't exist outside of private circles don't help matters either.
Reminder that the reason why you see "so many" trannies online is because most online spaces nowadays are heavily moderated, censored and influenced by a literal handful of trannies/israelites. Try commenting something negative (but reasonable and not against the ToS) on Youtube about it, on channels that are woke, and then switch your account and IP. Your comment will be gone within 24 hours, without fail.
You're dumb anon, there's no secret group trying to piss you off. It goes like this:
>be sheltered middle class teen
>bored as frick because of never needing anything
>go online and be exposed to edgy gays claiming to be different and making up genders
>"Wait a minute, I'm also special!"
>becomes homosexual
>there's no secret group
I never said it was secret. In fact, they're very open about it.
Trans women are body type B
It's literally a thread about pronouns tard. He didn't bring up trannies out of the blue
>watermark
oh, that explains your brain rot
Those aren't pronouns esl moron
Hasan lost
Imagine how much they must be seething and cowering in fear if they have the need to dogpile on a random streamer who got a bit angry about pronouns for months, if not YEARS afterwards.
>At university
>Need to introduce yourself with your name and pronouns
>Say I don't use pronouns and I'd prefer if people just refer to me by name
>Some people actually do it
Tell them you prefer the royal plural.
I tried that once but no one bought it, the professor then scolded me after class. Saying you don't use pronouns has always worked
What the frick kind of uni do you go to that you "introduce yourselves"? Are you in elementary school?
It's pretty normal so you know people's names you tard
No, i go to a european STEM uni and professors couldn't give two shits what you are called or if you know other people's names. Do the differential equations, shut the frick up, and that's it. Then again you are American so you most likely have a degree in feminist gay dance theory.
It was also a smaller school though. Like 30 people per class, not 300 like others
Ah okay then sure i guess. We have a few hundred people per generation.
>per generation
ESL moment
How did he manage to mindbreak them so hard?
Every time you see massive seethe like this from the woke crowd you KNOW that the person in question was 110% correct in what he said.
what is woke
What is a woman?
Anything she wants to be
You leftists invented the term, why don't you tell us?
Gay race communism.
Incredibly disingenuous, choosing the character's sex is not the problem and never was.
Pandering to the bottomless mental illness of genderspecials with preferred pronouns and 'body type A/body type B' selections erases biological sex and asks the player to accept the ludicrous idea that it's a mutable social construct.
TL;DR frick off
I'm old enough to remember when that professor oak image was used to upset trannies
This implies the opposite of what they want and they’re too stupid to see it.
In the future, once gender and sex have been abolished by our masters, the game will only allow us one choice
A fusion of girl + boy
Goy
>he is losing, so he starts mass replying.
boy and girl are not pronouns
buy a dictionary
now frick off, we-poster
These moronic sickos don't even know how language works anymore
The original pokemon didn't let you choose between being a girl or a boy, nor did it let you choose a male figure with a female pronoun. It was simply a question the game asked during it's intro that you couldn't actually answer.
Compare that to a modern day game like Starfield, a game where you can play as a character that is for all intents and purposes a male but still have the option of using female as your pronoun, and you should be able to easily tell the difference.
Theres your levelheaded nonsperg rebuttal.
It's from Crystal you moron which did allow you to pick a boy or a girl.
The point still stands.
It allowed you to pick a boy or a girl.
It didn't allow you to pick body type A and assign it the pronoun Boy.
There's a fundamental difference between the two.
we lost....
Why did leftytwitter take this and run with it? Boy and Girl aren’t pronouns, and having Boy and Girl in games again would be an improvement. They were the ones who caused this mess in the first place by clamoring for Boy/Girl to get removed and replaced with TypeA/B or Masculine/Feminine type options
>Why did leftytwitter take this and run with it?
Because after a decade of screaming that sex and gender aren't the same thing they decided to admit it is to "own the chuden."
kek, reminds me of when the official Israel twitter account acknowledged that Jesus is the son of God (completely rejecting Judaism as a religion) back in 2020 when trying to make a joke about people calling Jesus a Palestinian.
suace?
It’s still up on their account, look up “Hey Dad Israel tweet.” Was a reply to the “God” account (run by a israelite btw) making some post crying about people whitewashing Jesus when he was a wholesome Palestinian.
Then, the Israel account tweeted this in response
>God [referring to the twitter account]: Jesus was a Palestinian.
>
>Jesus: Hey Dad, remember when you gave that speech about israeli values at my Bar Mitzvah?
>Why did leftytwitter take this and run with it?
they're morons
they're disingenuous morons
they're smug disingenuous morons
they're smug disingenuous morons who are never, ever right about anything
Turns out even a dictionary isn't safe from being death-of-the-author'd
language is evolving
>things was problematic back then
>acktually it was always woke
Do you people not get tired of making the same exact threads, getting the same exact responses, multiple days/weeks at a time?
morons who aren't told they're being moronic will assume they are right, and politically inclined cliques love affirming each others opinions in statistically significant amounts.
>don't you attention seekers ever get sick of getting exactly what you seek?
>day in and day out, people reply to your threads without you having to put in any effort at all
>why don't you stop getting what you want for free?
oh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no WHY DOESIT RECOMMEND THAT? WHY IS POKEMON TRANSPHOBIC?
>twitter threads should be ban
Uh oh stinky he didn't reply with citations for his sources, kind of hilarious that someone would outright admit to being a moron but there he goes.
AAAAAA
BEING A CHUD FEELS LIKE SHIT
WE ALWAYS LOSE
Chuds always win.
When they grow the frick up and stop being edgy contrarians just for the sake of feeling counter-culture and MASCULINE.
That's the thing, when chuds lose, everyone lose
Anyone notices how these morons have started adopting "snowflake" to throw at anyone who even merely questions their actions or motives? It's true what they say, all leftwingers know how to do is parrot rightwingers
They aren't parroting you, so much as pointing out the irony in your usage of such phrases because they can almost always be entirely applied to the people using them.
It isn't parroting, so much as laughing at the irony of your blatant hypocrisy, but I'm not sure why I expected someone with your mental capacity to ever be able to collect that context from the cues provided.
>I insult you
>You spit the exact same insult back at me
>"I-I'm not parroting though!"
Literally third-grade-tier "I know you are but what am I" type rhetoric
>It isn't parroting, so much as laughing at the irony of your blatant hypocrisy, but I'm not sure why I expected someone with your mental capacity to ever be able to collect that context from the cues provided
its a low iq/empathy problem, idiots think that if they trick themselves into believing other person X is doing things for imagined Y reason that that is their actual motive.
more like you spineless leftists try to paint others as hateful while being just as, if not more hateful than you accuse others of being.
you're the real bigots.
If you're going to straw man me, can you at least use a well drawn shitpost comic? I think I deserve at least that much. I think even using AI art would look better than whatever the frick this shit is.
NTA but it's not straw manning you, arguably it's straw manning the people being discussed (but it seems an accurate enough depiction to me)
Don't be so sensitive.
I'm sensitive to shitty art. I want a goddamned masterpiece. This comic is worse than someone bringing a Ctrl Alt Del piece and throwing it in my face.
>This comic is worse than someone bringing a Ctrl Alt Del piece and throwing it in my face.
Admittedly, yes, but it's funny that she looks like an Attack on Titan character.
LMAO
you can really tell a triggered seething rightoid-moron made this
It’s amazing how all you had to do was post this and then you get replies immediately proving it true.
What's funny is that the left don't even know why the right were insulting them as snowflakes. The right wasn't saying the left was fragile, the right was saying that leftists all feel like they're unique like how every snowflake is unique. They were mocking you for trying to be different, causing you to all unironically look and act the same.
>look and act the same
Dawg............
Federal agents are lefties.
>only 52 upvotes, meaning it's not even a popular post
go back
the frick is an upvote
>guys I totally do not use reddit
I don't know what point you're trying to make here.
You both look like this.
I'm not a 40 year old man yet. I'm still only 27.
You WILL look like this.
AND YOU WILL LIKE IT.
Probably not. I think when I hit 40 I'll probably go for the "aging rocker/viking" look and grow out my hair and beard. I'll also start calling younger men "champ" and "buddy".
Please don't. My dad went through his viking obsession phase and wouldn't shut the frick up about his corny ass beard.
Don't do that to your kids, man.
The champ and buddy part is wholesome though, definitely work with that.
>dawg just look at this reddit post dawg
This website has fallen so fricking far
The corona virus is real, but it was used by pfizer to use the population as beta testers for a technology that was not only untested, but also worse than the regular thing in terms of storage and manufacturing speed.
And if you point that out, you get shoved into the anti-vax group while literally defending vaccines.
these guys are the best looking of the 4 political quadrants
Who should I trust
>confident looking people inside their own vehicle with no shame about posting their true opinions despite the media and corporations being against them
or
>pic related
>who should i trust these people or this smiley face giving a thumbs up with some words above it
idk anon im thinking the big emoji
You're supposed to read the text but ok
>Anyone notices how these morons have started adopting "snowflake" to throw at anyone who even merely questions their actions or motives?
it's what leftists always do: attempt to co-opt and subvert.
I've also seen them (and corporate shills) also use the words troony and pajeet against their detractors. it's so hilarious because you can see the mask come off in real time.
It’s a mix of subversive instinct and narcissism.
Snowflake is an interesting term since it started in the humanistic left circles as
>everyone is unique and should be valued
Then it was picked up and subverted by more meritocratic mindsets as an insult
>they think they’re all special snowflakes
THEN the meaning somehow got translated from unique to fragile in the right political space
>melting down like snowflakes!
Which is when the younger, more narcissistic lefties pulls the classic projection
>no, you’re the sensitive fragile one!
Very interesting how the political discourse of the past 2 decades can be viewed through the change in connotation of a single word.
classic narcissistic response
>THEN the meaning somehow got translated from unique to fragile in the right political space
It became a synonym for fragile because the 'unique snowflakes' invariably displayed overwhelming fragility (and still do)
Yes, but it also lost its original “unique” connotation in the process. It’s interesting watching how the meaning changes as younger participants pick up the term.
It's actually kind of annoying when you put it that way
It's like how 'literally' has been used so much to mean the opposite, its meaning has started to transform
Yes, and it's very easy to understand. I am not going to bother telling anyone that uses this argument what it is because they are willfully ignorant. Their argument is disingenuous.
are we really going to die on this hill? let's just admit we lost.
>we
I can smell your lies from here
go leave
genuinely baffled how they dont understand their own beliefs. biological sex doesnt equal gender identity/pronoun preferences. those are completely separate things. hes asking are you girl. not if you go by she/her pronouns or even if you identify as one. what he is asking is problematic now which is why its being removed from games. also fpbp.
They don't have beliefs they just want to touch kids.
But Republicans and the religious commit child sex crimes/are indicted for possession of CSAM at a much higher rate than trannies, even adjusting for population size
>the religious
Priests? Diddling boys?
So LGBT priests, then.
LGBTQ commit more sex crimes
>OH YEAH? WELL WHAT ABOUT GAY REPUBLICANS AND GAY PRIESTS?
Uh, yeah. Those would be included in the LGBTQ. Was that supposed to HELP you position…?
I think it's funny how you all claim to be straight until you get caught.
nonsequitur, and nonsense too
men molesting boys are gay, even if they're republicans or priests
Why does body type B have a bra, and why can't I take it off?
SHUT THE FRICK UP YOU STUPID FRICKING BIGOT HOW HARD IS IT TO JUST BE NICE TO PEOPLE
Why is all this arguing over twitter trannies
you have a troony board on your website and most of these stereotypes dont fit 4trannies at all
go argue with them if you want good faith arguements
>Are you Type A or Type B
The rebuttal is we hang the trannies by the street lights and display their corpses for all to see. Total degenerate death.
You need to recognize that there are two possibilities here:
>You're a pathetic piece of shit that could never manage to kill something, because it'd likely outrun your fat malnourished ass.
>You possess the ability for murder, but now no one is on your side like you fantasize, because you're a verified nutcase and murderer that has no place in greater human society anymore.
It's not looking so good for you anymore, poor emotional controlbro...
That's not anger. It's resignation.
You have no idea how many people would jump at the chance to kill you and your fellow troonoid degens. You think the death camp workers hated their job?
I'm aware of the existence of actual insane people like yourself, yes. It comes with the territory of interacting with them on the only space where they're allowed to exist- here.
Fortunately, most of us don't have to deal with your types on a regular basis because you're either dealt with and locked into a mental institution loop until you die sedated, OR you succeed in your murder and then die.
LMAO so cute that you think there aren't people in the system, billionaires, policemen, politicians that hate your guts and want to exterminate you. It's very useful to imagine your enemies as schizos, but the truth is, the state will come for you, lock you up and then execute you. And I hope I get to pull the levers!
They're much closer to doing mass murders than you.
The "genderpunks" are an extremely authoritarian group of people wanting to change (by force) entire languages to fit their moronic ideal worldview.
They're not even trannies.
You literally can offend em with a "you will never be a troony" copypasta.
But then they will send the police to crush your skull.
Asking for your gender (sex) isn't pronouns.
Not woke to ask someone basic biological facts.
Which Nintendo franchise would be my ideal alternative to Pokemon?
>franchise without Fairies
>I hate RPG's
>anti-pokemon franchise
>franchise whose target is totally opposite to that of Pokémon
>franchise without cute designs
Pretty narrow list there, anon. Probably Metroid, then.
Reasons why Metroid would be my ideal Nintendo franchise?
>Franchise without fairies
Do consumable fairies count? If not, Zelda is out.
>I hate RPG's
Out goes Xenoblade and Fire Emblem
>Anti-Pokemon franchise
No Nintendo IP is explicitly anti-Pokemon. They mostly just coexist.
>Franchise whose target is totally opposite that of Pokemon
>Franchise without cute designs
Metroid
Wario
Splatoon depending on if you consider Inklings cute or not
>cut dick off
>now has to poop into a bag from his side
Sucks because she (he) had a nice wiener
But where's the million other pronouns?
Please just go out and shop for a coffin and stay inside one for the rest of your life.
>had a nice wiener
>cut it off
>41%ed
SAD, many such cases
Why do anti-troony speakers love to act moral and christian but at the same wave of the hand will celebrate other's deaths, call for their murder and dehumanization and then act "moral" (without knowing the first thing about morality)
Where's your self-standards?
Why are others obligated to abide by moral standards when you refuse to live up to your own?
>obligated
what obligation? Its an obvious hipocrisy, claiming Christian virtues only to shit on others and never for themselves. You're supposed to better yourself no matter who your """"enemy""" is (love them etc)
>live up to your own?
Like what? I never call for anyone's murder or dehumanization and always play doubles advocate IRL on all issues so people dont treat each other badly.
But you're dehumanizing others by reducing a wide range of positions down to a single assumed one and strawmanning it right now?
Well first thats not dehumanizing thats generalizing, and second its referring to people in this thread who do behave that way, if you dont you'd have no reason to be bothered by what is said, simple as.
Oh, so stereotyping is no longer dehumanizing? It's okay to say that all blacks are criminals now?
criminals are human
blacks are human
there are people in this thread who unironically believe trannies are the devils plot to garner child sacrifice.
Let that sink in for 3 seconds
Yeah, I dont want them dead, I want them well. The ones I want dead are the ones like you who groom other into this cult.
see, you're doing it, pretending to be moral but coming up with "justifications" which let you "unleash your dark side just this once"
No no, Im not pretending to be moral. I am being moral. It is Very simple see.
If you are innocent, I wish you well. I hope that you find happiness and live a long life. Making mistakes is natural and part of what makes us humans.
If you are Evil, commit Evil deeds and see them as the moral good, than I pray you die.
Look at the troony cult we have nowadays, preying on young men and women. Teens think they are agender, non binary, multilate reais hemselves during the most confusing age of their lives. They are being groomed into It. That is not to say that tansgenderism might not be psychologically real, or possible, but in the magnitude we see today It is certainly unnatural and a result of sistematic grooming. If you defend this you are Evil.
The Bible says sodomites get the death penalty though
Only the israeli one, the post-israeli one doesnt preach death penalty
Romans 1
Also the death penalty was never revoked and Paul said the government should use the sword on criminals.
>inb4 John 8
the israelites were trying to get Jesus in trouble with the Romans since the israelites weren't allowed to execute people
>Romans 1
read Romans 2 baka-anon
Where does Romans 2 say being a homosexual is okay?
tells you not to judge others but rather to let G*d judge
>G*d
okay so your israeli
easily baited, you're not a Christian who believes in Jesus Kristos, God the Son
youre just a polgay
Type out the word "God" right now
>Jesus Kristos, God the Son
I'll admit I'm blind but your original post
is still dumb. Jesus and the apostles didn't advocate for no government because "we're all free in Christ man"
He's not asking for your pronouns, he's asking what your sex is.
Not staring at a man's ass
>Boy OR a girl
So, that means there's only two genders.
You either a male looking boy or a feminine girl, no 100500 pronounces. It's the opposite to the current gender neutral bullshit, OOP is fricking moronic.
So uh
What'd you guys have for lunch
ham sandwich
Mayo or no?
Por supuesto hermano mío
good man
chicken in cheese and ragu
huh
you're advocating scientific materialist determinism to be anti troony
thats negative iq tier
>chicken in cheese and ragu
Fricking gross, what the hell is wrong with you you freak
>chicken in cheese and ragu
>not even rao's
THIS is my opposition?
Dude you put the cheese after the ragu, don't mix it together then dump chicken in.
The hypothetical argument that I am positing for the sake of discussion could be seen as materialist, I suppose.
You still haven't addressed how a simple statement of that belief would be seen as morally repugnant and heavily discouraged.
Before the thread dies I need to say that futanari is the only based fetish
Gay
I bet you like nugget shit too
Five-hundred-and-thirty-fourth post best post.
Only if they have both so you can twist it backward and they frick themselves
nah I prefer only if they have a wiener. Both just looks weird, especially if there's no balls
Both is what futanari means you dummy, only one is just a girl with a dick
I don't care. Only wiener gets tagged as futa all the time
Bad tag from westerners, you just like dickgurls
okay but futa mostly refers to dickgirls now too
Only from people who unironically call every hot female their waifu and describe themselves as weebs
Usually you can't see the pussy under the dick because the balls are in the way but futa is both at once yeah