Square Enix will begin layoffs, targeting it's employees in US and EU.
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/square-enix-confirms-us-eu-layoffs-as-part-of-restructuring/
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this is good news.
FPBP
These ones are great as well.
I hope they are ready to close down once the third episode launches.
Fire nomura, go back to making it a RPG, or die die die DIE
they will go even more woke
this, the lesson they'll take from this is that "we need to westernize even MORE". Which is the wrong lesson but one they will conclude regardless, because they are moronic
It's happening.
nature is healing
not in japan though because it's hard as frick to actually get laid off
they just make your life hell until you resign
From what I've seen its also common to dispatch employees to other companies that need temp workers.
>they just make your life hell until you resign
they just dont give you any work to do
but this is somehow "hell"
Being soft fired like that is just another form of hell. Having no work/say in anything but still being expected to show up at an office to do nothing.
So that's why Mobile games are popular over there.
Sounds like every IT department
thats based though?
so much time to shitpost on Ganker and maybe even do a lil parsec gaming.
I forgot that they did actually compare this to Japanese management too until I just rewatched this clip
Doesn't work for western people because they feel no shame. In Japan they would go into the woods and never come out.
managers claim loudly "oh man, you're doing absolutely nothing and get paid more than these guys (show the rest of the floor) how lucky you are"
that's what they do, don't fall for the "muh
honoruru japanesu" bullshit, that's not what happens, it's just the most convenient because management doesn't have to deal with your ass, colleagues will do it for them
its bully tactics that make you feel bad about being a leech and that you shit quit and have a nice day. They should just say lol I'm getting paid to do nothing.
>not in japan though because it's hard as frick to actually get laid off
Japan actually helps you find work in the fields you're good in if you get paid off.
Wot? How can Square have an Indie Games label?
Little Goody Two Shoes and Power Wash Simulator came from that innitiative.
RIP the few cool indie games Squeenix still made.
I think they should hire a ragteam team of American developers to make Secret of Evermore 2.
>Secret of Evermore 2
...but why? The first one isn't even good.
Like just piss poor readability, the first area covers so much screen for "immersion" but in a way that you can't actually see where the frick the enemies are even though the character should have a clear visual of it.
Let's see if they keep all of the incompetent mongrel activist women in charge of hiring. Because if they do then their restructuring won't make a difference.
>NOOOOO, NOT THE DEI HIRES
When your shit fantasy 7 redditbirth flop, and your final movie fantasy 16 sucks.
These are the results
>The plan, which the publisher has dubbed ‘Square Enix Reboots and Awakens’, lays out a three-year strategy which it hopes will lead to “long-term growth”.
>One of the four pillars of this plan, which involves “strengthening customer contact points”, will see the publisher “shift to a multiplatform strategy”.
Damn, even corporate suits are capable of understanding that they are supposed to make products that people actually buy.
Also lmao, not a word of Web3 and NFTs anymore. I bet all of that shit has been quietly buried already despite SE going balls deep into it few years ago.
>“strengthening customer contact points”, will see the publisher “shift to a multiplatform strategy”.
Took those morons long long enough. I want to buy FF7 Rebirth and FF16 but I cant. And get some real project managers. Mr belts and zippers on edgy mall goth girls and twink boys is only good for creative decisions.
>I want to buy FF7 Rebirth and FF16 but I cant
Good. They are both terrible games that I regret buying
>Why are you ignoring the horrendous gameplay ?
The gameplay is the least of the problems with these games. They are fundamentally broken from the core. I don't actually mind the battle system in FF7R but FF16s combat is total garbage. Just mindless spam and extremely formulaic.
>Good. They are both terrible games that I regret buying
Weird. FF16 was just mediocre with nice visuals and music. 7Rebirth was amazing.
I don't really regret buying either of them, I just wish 16 was an actual JRPG instead.
>7Rebirth was amazing.
No it wasn't. It was horrible.
Like i understand if you are low iq, sure, you hate RPGs and that's ok you are too stupid to understand games like Bravely Default or SMT
But the action side of REDDITBIRTH is fricking horrible, it's a borderline disgrace. It's straight up offensive when you compare it to titles like God Hand, hi-fi , DMC, etc.
>No it wasn't. It was horrible.
I've played both, and I can honestly say, VII Rebirth is better than XVI simply because it doesn't feel like I'm playing a solo MMORPG.
>VII Rebirth is better than XVI simply because it doesn't feel like I'm playing a solo MMORPG.
That's not a high bar anon.
It's quite literally gotten to the point where someone will say
>This piece of shit was at least better than this other piece of shit
Lmao I fricking hate zoomers man. They love this checklist chore stuff that basically tells them where to go and what to do for the epic trophy hunting.
Yes it was. It was amazing.
>liking/dislinking a particular game means low/high IQ
fricking zoomers kek
Yeah, disliking RPGs makes you a low IQ person.
>7Rebirth was amazing.
It was a literal Ubisoft tier game. 100+ hours of filler and shit like mini games that disrespect your time. It was not amazing at all. You just have shit tier taste
>disrespect your time
Waaah the game has too much content I hate playing games!!
You could cut all of Chadley's busywork besides the boss fights and the game would be better for it.
>Ubisoft tier game
Nope
Easily the best game Square has put out in decades, which granted is a low bar, but still great.
That's Bravely Default 2 and Triangle Strategy.
Keep being vocal about FFVII RE, i hope people like you end up killing the company. It's been long overdue.
SE sealed it's fate when it decided to listen to twitter tards and resetrannies it's the moment E deserved to die.
>BUBU BUBUT ARE LE 50 YEAR OLD MAN GOING TO LE BU]
yes you dumb Black person, now go post yuffie like the mentally ill troony you are.
>That's Bravely Default 2 and Triangle Strategy.
Oh come the frick on. I tried to like Bravely Default 2. I really tried, it has all the stuff I SHOULD be able to love. Job System, comfy 4 homie in a row, classic fantasy JRPG setup, etc...
But it's dull as fricking hell. Even people that love oldschool NES/SNES era JRPGs will tell you that. There isn't anything going for it.
Nice buzzwords btw
it's a great game but it's not a good bravely default game
It's better than Redditbirth and XVI
>It's better than Redditbirth and XVI
No, that's what's so sad about BD2. It's absolutely horrible.
You... you actually played BD2 right?
Yep. It's terrible. Loved NES/SNES era JRPGs with similar ideas.
BD2 was goddamned bland as hell. I was forcing myself by hour 12 before I finally gave up.
>but it's not a good bravely default game
Agreed, part of what I liked about BD was the meta element and sure 2 technically had it but it also didn't in a way.
>redditspacing
>claiming someone like me not liking bd2
Nah you suck. Go choke onn sonys and squares aaa assjuices.
>Easily the best game Square has put out in decades,
So it's a 4/10 instead of a 2/10. Great.
Reminder that this is what stillbirth gays do when they talk about their precious game.
The will say its a masterpiece, amazing, perfection without actually telling why it deserved those praise.
nice meme
>redditspacing
stop pretending to be an oldgay, you're not fooling anyone
>shit like mini games
Come on dude, I think 7R was a waste of money but minigames are never a bad thing
>I bet all of that shit has been quietly buried already despite SE going balls deep into it few years ago.
the japanese got into nft bullshit when it was far too late like usual when everyone else had already moved past it,im pretty sure whatever SE was doing had been dead in the water for a good while but only brought it up just to keep investors from nagging them about it
>Square needs a fricking 3 year plan to put their shit on more than 1 console
The boomer morons in charge of that company really need to start dying
development cycles for games are usually 3-4 years long, moron.
If the entire production pipeline is tuned for PS5 first, then PC a year later, it's going to take at least 1 year to re-organize and assign people to porting much sooner, and another 1-2 years of time to get all their current and near future projects ready for multiplat releases.
You can't shift the focus of a software company that quickly when everyone is actively working on current projects.
Visions of Mana will save them
Considering their reliance on Denuvo I kind of doubt it.
if any of their games have denuvo I'm not buying
>denuvo saving anons from buying SE-slop
Denuvo-sama...I kneel
Not until they release the Switch 2 version.
*sells 5 copies*
yuffie wife sim will save them
wow she looks bad in the remake
she looks too old. way past my range
>Forespoken shut down a studio
>FF7 is killing jobs
What the frick happened with Square Enix?
Don't forget them selling their western IPs like Tomb Raider and Deus Ex for pennies so that they could invest more on NFTs.
don't forget the multitudes of other flops and also the Avengers games
And how does this make them make better games? All these
were made in Japan. And even better localization wouldn't save these steaming turds.
Way more budget and better schedule for them
XIV literally kept the company afloat the past few years,even if XVI flopped because, surprise surprise, most of XIV players are on PC and SNOY greedy fricks kept the game to themselves.
I like most of these games
Square Enix is so out of touch with reality that they wanted to invest heavily into NFTs at some point.
>at some point
They're still banking heavily on NFTs
>What the frick happened with Square Enix?
ESG.
moron
Your argument being?
The same shit they've been doing for like 20+ years, they put all their money into ridiculous megaprojects and only survive on the sheer momentum of their well known brands
This. The PS3-era really screwed them and they haven't been able to fully recover.
Fell for Sony lies.
>Chief Belonging Officer
I thought all these fake jobs were getting shitcanned
The same thing that happened to capcom around the SFxT to SF5 era
They have a fricking insane amount of AA teams putting out multiple garbage releases every month that nobody buys while simultaneously their mainline AAA and big series is below expectations. They are in the “canceling mega man legends 3 and breath of fire” phase of their company restructuring. I think it will work to a certain extent but not as well as capcom since they had the giga hit world. Though you could argue the sustained success of the mmo is somewhat similar to the smash hit of MHW. Mentioning them both it’s ironic both of them had a collab. So yeah they are legit just copying capcom.
I also want to point out that capcom is now sliding back into their old shitty ways as they go back to focusing on B list shit like exoprimal
What's wrong with having B-List games? AAA games are aids
Exoprimal or Devil May Cry I know which one I’m choosing
Not only are you cherry picking, but it's not like it has to be either or
It’s a drain in your company in terms of money and talent. Think about what happened to mega man and resident evil (before the capcom restructuring). Mega man had a trillion spin offs and spin offs. Basically killed the series. Resident evil was shitting itself with garbage like raccoon city and umbrella corp
>Then
7 good games in one year
>Now
One bad game every 7 years
They released more games actually.
>decides to everything besides a fricking RPG
>Jesus why we are failing so hard?!
Who let these people take decisions?
man i killed for another brave fencer Musashi
We did but no one liked it.
didn't even realized this was in the same series
might check it out
>the alternate opening where the princess drops to the ground
I see only one and a half good game in there
>release PS5 exclusives when no one has a PS5
Who knows
They were always a moronic company, its hilarious seeing the damage control by nipigs. Their games flop and they reward those failures instead of pushing them to resign, No accountability anymore unlike the old days.
yeah japan is a country of failing upwards no, its sad to see.
forspoken studio didn't get shut down it got merged to cbu2 like the rest of the business divisions got merged to a cbu
Which makes sense, Square Penis pushed this studio to make a new IP based off that engine because people were like
>Oh wow that tech demo is so cool man... you should make a game from that! >UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH ok!
Shit company
Hi barry
Sucked sony's dick and censored remake and add Black folk and made second part PS5 exclusive when japs don't like snoy anymore.
Finally they're out of snoy's forced censor but then again might censor for parity too. Hope they will have more freedom now and not go full moronic ethics department.
wokeness removed all the charm from their games. without charm there wasn’t much left
They ignored the core in favor of a loud minority
They churned out a LOT of 4/10 dogshit you didn't notice.
They've been steadily tumbling downhill for years. It just took them this long to actually start feeling the effects because they started so high up the mountain. I'd say it started in the 360/ps3 era where they wasted the entire fricking console generation on Lighting, the character whose name has literally become synonymous with "Character that nobody likes but the studio keeps shoving them down your throat anyways."
AYO
CLOUD
WHERE DA LAYOFFS AT
Bullshit, the layoffs should be mainly in Japan for the massively bloated flops they've been developing. The US and EU branches are just publishers of small games.
Who made you the expert?
The US and EU branches are pozzed as frick and ruining these localizations. They need to be gutted.
>The US and EU branches are pozzed as frick and ruining these localizations.
Imagine if SE said "We believe that AI can do as well as a real localizer and we will be moving forward with this technology because it will be faster"
NA/EU localizers will seethe.
[good news]
Its actually insane how they shackled some of the biggest games (FF7R2 and FF16) on deadstation 5. Those games had massive marketing and even some hype. They lost shitloads of sales buy not making them available.
at the very least one of those games is coming out on steam before this year is over. Doubt it will outsell the PS5 version, people just don't care about squeenix like they used to.
They dump it on steam when the whole momentum is gone and wonder why no one buys it. Oh and SE ports are average at best.
Kingdom Hearts is still stuck on Ebin store
Lmao
Which is moronic. Heard so many people say they won't buy until it is on steam
Bros... is SE finally healing?
Even snoy got rid of neil druckmann and hired some koreans to make a coomer game
Diversity hires and shit taste were literally making them lose money
>snoy got rid of neil druckmann
huh, isn't he making Last of Us Part 3?
He is "resting", so fired, nd was losing tons of developers because of him and on top of that it killed the tlou ip
Yes, anon is just coping. All Druckmann said is that he'd like to move on to smaller games after TLoU3 because such large-scale productions are too stressful.
He's still overseeing their next open world project but only in a advisory role. I don't think he's the director.
>naughty dog
>open world
Good lord that sounds like 12 yeasrs of dev time.
Its end of PS5 for sure. Years off.
No, not yet. Not until we see internal documents leak about how they are going to get rid of all DEI materials and go back to how they use to make games.
>If we have a black character, it will be because we wanted to have one, not because we were told it was "trendy" or "the right thing to do"
I would rather, at this point, companies start to die so that people can start to realize that perhaps these policies are actually toxic and not in their best interest.
only once this fricker is gone can SE fully be free of the cancer
He's the one person making them money. If he's gone SE would've probably been in the red once that mobile revenue is gone.
>copy WoW
>slap an anime skin on it
>get lucky and win back some of the population
>get hailed as a literal god who cant ever do anything road (even though he has made many mistakes with XIV) and has tons of simps who worship him
Okay I don't see how that changes anything I said.
and also is living rent free in your head
SE will literally DIE if they kick him out
kicking this creature out will cure the cancer though
>kicking this creature out will cure the cancer though
and kick her groomer nepotism friend along with
good
Yamauchi's revenge
I bought a PS5 purely to play rebirth
Wise of them, probably the best layoff news we’ve had
>mfw FF7 Redditbirth is literally killing Squeenix
You wish tendie
Ff will survive and you will seethe again
>proceeds to post zoomsaw man
go back
Finally, revenge for revenge.
I recognize this artwork, this drawgay has to be the same drawgay I saved content from Ganker about Ganker poster archetypes in 2011 or 2012
Time flies
Salt Cuckmano status?
layoffs and restructing is codeword for getting rid of the cancer (ESG, ethnics department) or at least that's my cope and dreams. I'm glad Visions is coming though and they didn't kill Mana series.
When they bring back the hot chicks and axe the denuvo I'll be happy to give them my bux
>Japan is the side who's games flop.
>Lay off the US and EU side.
Lmao
What do the US and EU side do, again?
TRANSlate and butcher the source material for English other languages seem fine.
Hire a troony VA that have almost zero acting experience to voice a major character in a big upcoming expansion for the only successful Final Fantasy game you have is one example.
>Hire a troony VA that have almost zero acting experience to voice a major character in a big upcoming expansion for the only successful Final Fantasy game you have is one example.
This is what I don't understand, out of all of the professional theater actors they have, how the hell did this one AMERICAN troony get hired to pretend to be something they aren't? (Acting and irl)
Because this creature
is in charge of managing the dub. The new expansion is going to fantasy Brazil, so she hired her troony friend whose grandpa once vacationed in Puerto Rico.
Koji getting "promoted" was the worst thing that could have happened to this game.
Probably a friend of the localization lead
They already sold all their US studios what else are they gonna do? Their other branches are manly for regional marketing and handling translation/voice acting
You forgot the [Good News]
>people are actually crying about this on Twitter
the mankiddies are scared that they might not feel comfortable playing these games around their parents anymore kek
Why don't they try making some more good games?
>pic unrelated
Intead they are going to stop doing games like that and triple down on FFVII: the saga
This game was so fricking good man. I can't go back to FE after this.
not high enough profit margins. Square Enix wants blockbusters only
>Benedict says I should mating press Frederica tonight but that would be gay, grab the scales of conviction I call for a vote!
They unironically did.
>Makes this shit and Diofield Chronicles instead of a new Final Fantasy Tatics / Advance.
They deserve to fail.
They do, their lower budget stuff is still pretty good. It's just those tend to be small successes and they want big AAA successes
Game needed waifus like Unicorn Overlord.
Oh it has them
These nips would rather go bankrupt than release Kingdom Hearts on Steam, what the frick is their problem?!!!?!?!
But Kingdom Hearts is all Disney. b***h to them about it.
Obviously a deal with Epic.
Epic is the one that helped them port the game to PC. It's like expecting Swat 4 or even Alpha Protocol now to be released on Steam when GOG put in the work to re-release them.
That's Epic shill fan fiction. At most SE said that Epic was "incredibly supportive" of the KH devs when working with Unreal Engine.
disney owns half of epic. hope that helped clear things up for you frogtard
>disney owns half of epic
Thank you my israeli friend, I don't look into such things.
At least this Kiryu CEO is doing something relatively quick following disappointing sales. The previous one doubled down and kept at it with the exclusivity deals.
>Dumping the dead weight
Nice
Good and well deserved.
Sony is next tomorrow.
Sony already did layoffs in 2 months ago. They could do more I suppose.
>They could do more I suppose.
No, they have to do more.
haha and you homosexuals said squenix was fine because they hadn't laid anyone off yet. Every fricking time an new FF comes out you homosexuals claim THIS will be the one to bring back the series, yet here we are. It's not a coincidence this all happened JUST on the heels of 2 high budget titles having lukewarm (at best) releases.
these studios aren't making ff
No, but squenix is still paying for it all so what's your point? You'd be fool if you didn't think them announcing a multiplatform future wasn't them admitting that XVI and Rebirth have had disappointing results on the PS5
They are killing off dead weight. This was planned since last year
>layoffs were planned years in advance
what are you talking about? Layoffs happen when a company fails to meet goals. Not years before they know whether or not they will make those goals.
killing of AA was planned since last year, naturally layoffs were planned alongside it. You don't need to announce the obvious
>publishing, IT, and Square Enix’s Collective indie games division
That's not JUST them letting go of AA studios
When companies hire a lot of contract workers they will fire them after a big game is out.
Yes this outsourcing is moronic.
buy buy DEI gays
Not sure how to feel about this, in one hand, they released a SHITLOAD of games last few years wich I appreciate them, however, some of them were a bit lacking, on the other hand, they invested who know how much into NFT shit which I think is dying down las I checked.
at this point i hope squeenix burns to the ground for how bad they handled XV on pc. more broken ass ports wont save their shitshow.
xv has the best pc port of any Japanese game practically ever though
are you confused with 7r disaster pc port?
>xv has the best pc port of any Japanese game
>japanese devs release garbage ass games, CEOs decide to limit the reach by making them exclusive for no reason
>shit flops
>fires americans and europeans who didnt even develop the slop in the first place
wow, truly based from the nips, right guys?
Why keep people that don't even make games in a game company?
Square Enix's MO to always blame the round eyes for their failures like they have with Eidos Montreal.
In this case they have valid reason to for shit like Forspoken, and the whole "ethics department"
Those same Forspoken devs went to work on Rebirth and you know what happened next. It flopped.
Maybe next time, they'll actually give Tifa the G-cup breasts she's supposed to have.
>FF7 Remake
>It's actually a sequel, Square enix continues on their destruction path
>FF7 Rebirth
>It destroys everything, Square Enix needs to change its ways before it dies
>FF7 Reunion
>The last chapter, Square is born anew
The remake trilogy was never about us or FF, Nomura's story runs deeper...
So it's another "game sales are shit, fire people to boost our overall numbers" nonsense.
Hope it close any western US state branches especially those located in California.
Please God cut her down.
Her face is identical to mine. Guess I know what I’d look like if I trooned and that’s horrifying.
i certainly hope koji is good at tard wrangling
>i certainly hope koji is good at tard wrangling
Not at all.
How can someone look at "this" and think that they'd be in ANY way helpful in selling video games?
So FF7 remake part 3 will aim for Switch 2 specs huh, literally the only way to sell that shit on consoles
Nah, it'll flop on switch 2.
>Our new strategy is going balls deep with multiplats
>Not in the only console that actually matters anymore btw
Yeah that sounds moronic enough to be really what squeenex would do
They aren't going to completely reshape Part3
FF XVII might target switch 2
lmao no. It will be PS5. Maybe day1 PC if they are smart
Can't wait for more bombs, garbage company.
>Microsoft (USA) closes Tango (JP)
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN CHUNGUS GOOD GUYS JAPANESE YAMETEEEE HI FI RUSH tbh
>Square Enix (JP) closes their studios (USA)
>HOW HECKIN BASED IS THAT!!!? YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSS
>ms closes their studio that made a good game
>square doesn't close anything but removes problematic elements, aka diversity hires who made games worse.
I will never forgive them for making a game called Symbiogenesis that isn't about killer mitochondria.
>using consultants like Sweet Baby
>saying "frick the Japanese market! We only make western-style games for Americans now!"
>making every JRPG a hack-and-slash action game
>no longer trusting 2nd-party developers like Level 5, and instead trusting western developers led by the rainbow squad and driven entirely by personal agenda
Except Hackmora was doing that well before Sweet Baby and every game then was also trash so...
>FFXIV loses again
fricking based
?????
It's one of the few games/teams that's safe because it actually makes money.
Big YoY decrease in profit for wow14 specifically too.
Check again in a month or so.
ff16 and 7r2 flopped and lost money for SE
mmo is down
>MMO, net sales and profits declined compared with the previous year
so are we expecting a FF17 MMO?
Highly doubt it they just did a tech upgrade for XIV. Would be dumb to invest time and resource in tech upgrades and then simply launch a new thing.
They might see a surge with the game entering steam but I dont expect much honestly. They still need to get their shit together.
MMO wise Dawntrail is coming next month, but what will decide its success is the cadence of content and shit to do. Appealing to social Black folk will get you only so far, you are developing a god damn game not fricking second life.
Yes moron it's down because that's the MMO cycle. That's why nobody with a brain is concerned about XIV.
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/pdf/24q4slides.pdf
Every non-mobile or MMO game falls under HD games. So basically any game they've launched in the last year.
Playstation exclusivity really got Square one strike from being out. Damn.
>Koji Fox terminated
GUESS THE BOY WASN"T SO BUOYANT AFTER ALL HUH YOU PRETENTIOUS c**t
literally who?
He's safe bro.
>US layoffs
is it happening? are the localizers getting the axe?
>US and EU
All of their studios are in Japan, meaning the layoffs will only affect their publishing and localization teams. Sounds like good news to me.
[Good news]
Someone tell me if the ethics department is been gutted.
This, they deserve to be gutted for their 'help'.
They finally got tired of moronic westoids and slop ideology?
>Fire everyone
>Let AI do all the translation AND all the marketing
>???
>Profit
With the quality they have been pumping,might as well cut the middle man for the slop
Most people blame ENIX for the degradation, funny enough it is the polar opposite.
Most of the moronic shit is legacy from Squaresoft, meanwhile successfull branches such as mangapublishing, merchandise, DragonQuest is from ENIX.
Which is funny because Square is trying to kill that too with muh drim derp seriousness. Oh and Hackmura moronation.
The merger was similar to Boeing merging with MCdonnell Douglas, the failing companies executives somehow ended up in charge of the new entity.
Square Soft actually had successful IPs. The only notable success from Enix, and the only Enix IP continuing today, is Dragon Quest, and even then they didn't own DQ. DQ was owned by Armor Project.
>and the only Enix IP continuing today, is Dragon Quest,
And Star Ocean
>Star Ocean is a Enix IP
that makes so much more sense now, i was wondering why it looked like it was given half the budget of any FF title.
Hrist game never ever
what, you didn't rike homie hrist?
Honestly Valkyrie Elysium isn't even that bad, it just isn't the game we wanted.
>it just isn't the game we wanted
sounds like all Square titles these days
I was so excited for Chocobo GP too
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Why did they bother releasing Valkyrie games on Steam? You can't buy them in a lot of regions.
But Redditbirth fanboys assured me it will be GOTY! Good fricking riddance.
Time traveler anon, who wins goty? Forspoken?
>when people say it's gonna win goty it's fine and normal
>when someone says it won't, it's time traveler complex
Fricking kek, Fgays really are this disingenuous huh?
Well surely you have a believable alternative jimbo
Looks like he doesn't
Helldivers 2, most likely.
>82 metacritic
Would you really bet on it against Rebirth? You are pretty dumb
Helldivers 2 is the best RPG of this year.
Delusion isn't good for you
>Delusion isn't good for you
Says the guy that plays linear shit like FFXVI.
XVI was DMC lite with the worst aspects of FFXIV and a story that drops the ball hard after the first few hours.
>Character customization?
None, and don't expect anything great out of upgrading your weapons, you'll feel the same as you did when you started.
>Character development outside of Clive and his stupid fricking dog?
None
>Does the story ever pick up?
As soon as someone turns into a primal, and then it shors the bed again
>Anything to break up the monotony?
Not a mini game in sight and fricking boring side quests
You're also forgetting you can equip items that make your character auto dodge or makes your dog auto dodge. They give you items that play the game for you.
This is the type of morons they want buying their games.
>You're also forgetting you can equip items that make your character auto dodge or makes your dog auto dodge. They give you items that play the game for you.
I forgot about that shit too.
Then again, he said it was to appeal to the younger folks and the FFXIV crowd (who don't have PS5s)
>and the FFXIV crowd
Yeah those guys hate anything remotely challenging. All they do is mod their characters and spend $12/month pretending to be girls
Actually I didn't play XVI, I did play Rebirth
Very interesting schizopost anon
It sold about 6 million more copies than Stillbirth.
Damn Palword is winning goty
I wouldn't be surprised half of those awards are whatever got the most buzz
>Would you really bet on it against Rebirth? You are pretty dumb
Anon, you KNOW Sony pays for that shit.
>GOTY
That is actually Emerald Beyond.
>Forespoken Forespoken Forespoken Forespoken Forespoken Forespoken!
>Final Fantasy is losing them more money than it due to having a much higher budget
kek weebs
weebs won anon. we've been shitting on Final fantasy 16 for years once we heard it was westabooslop.
>weebs won anon. we've been shitting on Final fantasy 16 for years once we heard it was westabooslop.
Spotted the guy who never played the game.
Outside of the inital premise the game does frick all with it, its like they didnt know how to write the story and just retreaded to typical shonen shit.
Good news. All SE had to do was make a FAITHFUL remaster of FF7. Instead, we got another convoluted piece of shit with time jannies and black NPCs out the ass thanks to the DEI frickers ruining vidya.
And FF16 was a carbon copy of FF14 but just as a single player. That kind of MMO single player shit is NOT GOOD for most gamers. The game should've been about 20 hours shorter but instead it's full of disgusting filter and nonsense.
The last good game I played by SE was Octopath 2. They need to start making games like that. More freedom. Less theme park Ubisoft nonsense
Why are you ignoring the horrendous gameplay ?
???
?????????????
yes cleanse yourself off of all the filth.
I remember when FFX-2 was released and people just went wow this game is just straight up beneath Final Fantasy
It has been downhill ever since
>wow this game is just straight up beneath Final Fantasy
and somehow the last good one crazy
>Do nothing
>Win
Nevermind all those blizzard layoffs.
Based MS torpedoing one studio that did frickall for over 7 years not producing a single game and constantly restarting the project.
chris metzen
Chris Metzen.
Now they can go back to bring lazy pieces of shit and release content every 10 months
chris metzen
>Win
>Snore Within looks boring as frick
>full of woke slop like nerubian safe spaces and crippled nig warriors a laundry list of ESG compliant features
I remember when WoWtards tried to say him coming back was going to make the game based and redpilled.
what did they win and how
because they just keep losing and losing from what i can tell
it's just that it's one of those gaming companies that is too big to fail so it's succumbing to death by a thousand cuts instead
When was the last time a SE game even had a good non dogshit translation that wasn't raped by localizers trying to propel their own political careers by piggybacking off established video game franchises?
>Walk to tower
>Chadley speaks
>Enter tower
>Chadley speaks
>Secure tower
>Chadley speaks
>Get garbage list of chores to do on the map
>Chadley speaks
>Go to eat chore and fight 4 monsters to tick off your epic checklist
>Chadley speaks after you kill each one
>Go to random memory crystals
>Press Triangle each time in a mindless stupid time-wasting mini game
>Chadley speaks
>Go to chocobo dig area
>Chadley speaks
>Dig up useless items and upgrades that are basically maybe +5 armour and +5 magic defense and more or less completely useless
>Chadley speaks
>Chase stupid Moogles around a map in stupid chore just so that you can access their item store
>Chadley speaks
>Repeat this for 7 theme park zones
>Literal chore checklist filter crap that belongs in a Ubisoft game and causes the game to be artificially prolonged by about 50 hours
>WOW GOTY AMAZING GAME WOO GOTY GOTY MASTERPIECE EPIC GAME!!!
morons
I genuinely ended up enjoying Remake more than Rebirth, due to Chadley.
this really does not even begin to properly convey how much chadley speaks, and then the party will sit there for long periods at a time with dead air while doing his chores. he should have had top billing credits, truly SE are geniuses
It's zoomers. They love this garbage checklist shit. They cant think for themselves. It's why I kinda liked Dragons Dogma 2 even though it had an awful story and performance. It just drops you and lets you go wherever you want to.
Nah. I've been playing since SNES FF2. Rebirth is fricking great. FF has been in the gutter since 13. Remake and Rebirth are the only good FFs in a long ass time.
what about FF16? its great too
I liked the setting and the music, but I just don't like that game's genre in general. I gave it a chance, though.
I also think that type of story would've been better served in something like an FF Tactics style game, honestly. It's too dour to take on that length of time with the style of gameplay it has.
FFXVI only parasites on Matsuno aeshetics but, straight up fails in every way storywise to do anything that made Tactics Ogre and FF:T good.
I mostly agree, but I was more speaking on the general tone than the execution.
FF2 for the SNES? damn we got a real oldgay amogus
follow the reply chain
FF4 is lolcalized into FF2 in the less civilized parts of the world
>Remake and Rebirth are the only good FFs in a long ass time.
Remake was ok because it didn't have Ubisoft towers and was linear enough to not bore me to tears. Rebirth is shit buddy. You just have shit taste. Go play some proper JRPGs. Open world games are garbage and overdone. And the thing is, FF7Rebirth isn't even a true open world game like BoTW. It's just a theme park like FF14 where you get to ride the toys in each zone then move onto the next one. There is no true freedom.
At the end of the day dude, you lost. FF7Rebirth failed and SE are gutting their employees. Hopefully, they don't make anymore games for a long time. The current games they are releasing aren't working and it's obvious why.
Rebirth is the best game SE ever made. It's winning goty but you are free to seethe for the next 5 years
>it's winning GOTY
lol lmao even
I'm glad you are posting this to add to my screens folder. But sure, SB is winning GOTY!
I'm not going to seethe. I'm actually quite happy. Have you read the thread title?
>Square Enix will begin layoffs, targeting it's employees in US and EU.
You can like Rebirth all you want but it isn't saving your precious company, Chud.
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>The game's great.
It's not cause I spent 100+ hours bored to tears. But I felt like I had to get my monies worth sadly.
>It's not cause I spent 100+ hours bored to tears
...
anon... nobody believes this shit. make it less obvious when you bait. people are going to just stop replying to you when you go too far.
>nobody believes this shit.
Even though I posted
Crazy how you think I didn't play the game even though I know how it works? Keep coping
i was just trying to help you out in being less obvious next time
but if you don't want the help... you can just wonder why people stopped responding to you. post smarter, not grandoise
I don't need to do anything you say. The game sucks and SE knows it, hence the poor sales. Get over it, zoom zoom. Now run along, don't you have some Ubisoft checklists to tick off for some epic trophies you can share with your epik gamer gang?
What was the last great FF game? I want to say that it was one of the remakes on psp or DS.
You're assuming towers = instant Ubisoft-tier due to memes anon. The game's great.
>you lost
? I don't own stock with Square, I only care if I get to play a game I like. I did.
You can't even blame zoomers for it I think it's been standard open world design since like 2007 Ubisoft games
It's just them trying to grab every trend in the industry outside of RPGs from the last decade
>WHAT DO I DO BRO THERE'S NO YELLOW PAINT!
This. Frick hand holding, one of the key tenants of going on a fricking adventure is the mystery of being able to explore the unknown. I don't want yellow paint all over the world telling me where points of interest are!
>It's zoomers. They love this garbage checklist shit.
well i wasn't b***hing so much about the checklist itself but chadley. I dont like checklists either but it would have been at least an objectively better experience if there had been no chadley chiming in every fricking minute
Apologize.
>Yeah I sure do love a Chadley walking checklist simulator!
Octopath 2 is the only good game SE has done recently. Everything else is just trash
Eh, the LaL remake was amazing as was the SMRPG one.
Triangle Strategy
>make best FF since the early 2000s with Rebirth
>make it a PS5 exclusive
at least they're finally learning that exclusives are old thinking and stupid. Capcom already learned this lesson years ago, and are doing great
Also they ruined Cid in FF7Rebirth. He doesn't smoke cause
>LE SMOKING BAD!!!!!
He doesn't b***h at his wife for ruining his fricking rocket launch either cause
>LE GETTING ANGRY AT WOMEN BADDDDD
Not to mention all the random black NPCs with shitty life stories. Like when you get to Cosmo Canyon there is some whiny black b***h who says she can't fly her chocobo anymore or some shit. I skipped past 95% of the cut scenes because I have literally no idea why they included some random black b***h telling me her sad life story when we're trying to fricking find Sephiroth
Slashing out the woke homosexuals.
Last FF I had fun with was Zodiac Age, says a lot about Square Enix, doesn't it?
>hint
i'm trolling too
you're doing it wrong
>ffxiv is dead
>it's now also under constant ddos which crashes the serves
>ongoing for a week now
>NA/EU are the most affected
>they fire their NA/EU IT teams
Rest in piss
What's your cope gonna be when Dawntrail is huge? Pre-orders are already insane according to Yoshida himself. Their site crashed due to the volume of traffic when they were opened.
>Their site crashed due to the volume of traffic
This doesn't mean shit though. They can't even handle being DDoSed because they dont have the proper procedures in place. This shit doesn't happen with WoW btw
>Their site crashed
Just like their game servers lmao
They literally abandoned the original FF fans like 15 or 20 frickin years ago...
This is what happens dude.
>They literally abandoned the original FF fans like 15 or 20 frickin years ago...
That's why they are in the shitter. Abandoning your core player base to chase trends is no bueno. Unfortunately, all these company have to continue to grow due to late stage capitalism.
Square hasn't gotten with the times. They tried to bring FF back to its roots with Remake/Rebirth. There hasn't been a mainline with ATB or MP-based magic since FF12, or embraced classic FF ideas.
Modern gamers don't give a shit about FF. It's largely a millennial IP. They don't konw what modern gamers want which is why they have half-assedly been trying to chase trends with their other mainlines.
>They tried to bring FF back to its roots with Remake/Rebirth.
But Rebirth isn't really "back to its roots". Remake was arguably a better go at bringing it back. Rebirth is just Ubisoft tier. Millennials who were brought up on games like FF6 don't want this shit. So many of my millennial friends just won't touch FF games anymore because "it's not for me anymore" since they changed the fricking formula
>Rebirth is just Ubisoft tier
?
Not going to explain it. I already have about 30 posts ITT explaining why. If you can't tell it's Ubisoft tier with the way they handle towers and the minimap then you are braindead low IQ dumbfrick moron homosexual.
Oh. Bait.
Nevermind
They accidentally outed themselves earlier, they haven't been able to explain shit.
Buzzwords and reaction images. That's all.
7r criticisms get questioned until you give up
7r praise must never be questioned, or explained
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I have noticed that too
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It's the latest buzzword
What the frick about Remake/Rebirth is "back to its roots?"
the literal post you responded to
read
>Modern gamers don't give a shit about FF.
Do you want modern gamers?
>They tried to bring FF back to its roots with Remake/Rebirth
What? As someone who played the original when it was new, the 'remake' certainly wasn't aimed at me, and definitely didn't feel anything like an attempt to bring it back to what it had been.
There were maybe a couple of fights that triggered nostalgia, but there was just way too much in the way of weird decisions that made the game get in the way of itself. Like if the idea was to update an accessible, simple to follow game so it could once again serve as a point of entry for new players, whose idea was it to cut the game to just the 2 hour tutorial area, expand that with 18 hours of additional crap, and then add in a confusing meta narrative that was impossible to follow?
Remaking FF7 was supposed to be the companies 'break glass in case of emergency' but they handled it so poorly I think they killed their most valuable property. I bought the first one out of curiosity, I'm not going to buy the second one, and I'll tell people to avoid it and just play the original.
The gameplay and the tone are the most FF a Final Fantasy has been in decades.
The problem is the story changes.
The tone is good, character personalities are great but the gameplay sucks. The combat is just bad, not entirely turn based and not action, if you compare it to any other action RPG it's absolutely trash. The exploration is completely awful and the games "content" is soulless. VR Missions instead of putting stuff out in the "open" world, really? Every other ARPG these days has huge amounts of character customization too but I'll forgive them for that as it's not a Final Fantasy staple but it's just one more way in which Final Fantasy is behind the competition. Even Mana has like 15 "costumes" per character.
Respectfully disagree. I think it's the best combat system FF has done in an FF, and wish they'd take it into games beyond just the 7R games.
Managing ATB/swapping characters feels great and attacks feel weighty, something that was horribly missing in 15 and partially 16.
>Managing ATB/swapping characters feels great and attacks feel weighty
In what world lmao
NTA but rebirths and remakes combat is widely considered best in the series. You are shitposter or a butthurt turn based moron
> is widely considered best in the series
By who you mentally ill troon?
>You are shitposter or a butthurt turn based moron
I love RPGs and Action Games, Remake and Rebirth fails at both
By 99% of people who actually played the game
Considered the best in the series is not praise when the series is in terminal decline and all your competitors are doing better
15 and 16 also have terrible gameplay so I certainly wasn't comparing it to them. I'd take 4 characters in a row over this, switching character also feels like shit I can't stand that in trashy gacha games and I can't stand it here. If it's going to attempt to be an action game then it's going to get compared to other action RPGs whether it's souls-likes, monhun, dragons dogma etc. And it's worse than all of them, Zelda (TotK) gameplay is barely existent but at least it's creative and fun to play with interacting with the world not just in combat
>The combat is just bad, not entirely turn based and not action, if you compare it to any other action RPG it's absolutely trash
Why do people insist on having the worst opinions ever
The AI is also worse than Tales of Phantasia from 1995
There were times the game felt right, but there was so much that just ruined the tone and any investment in what was going on.
The gameplay was an over complicated mess, even compared to stuff like the Xenoblade series.
The original worked because it was so simple. Two items, items have slots that take magic spheres. Numbers on everything just go up.
The sphere grid stuff, and all the other new systems just made it a lot less accessible even for people who were coming back to try it out.
FF7 was already ruined by the time of Remake, FF7RE is simply the culmination of everything.
The aesthetic and tone of the game was bastardised by the time of Advent Children and Crisis Core
FFXIII and FFXV completely killed the Final Fantasy band and it's now in a slow decline with no sign of recovery. There's no saving it, as Remake, XVI and Rebirth has shown. The quality of those games are actually irrelevant, the IP is permanently damaged
Its crazy how everyone assumed and FF7 remake would be a sure fire hit. Their ultimate "break glass in case of emergency" game. But the industry is so fricking rotten and fundamentally fricked that they've even fricked that up and its barely successful.
FF7 remake was a commercial success for SE, even if it's a worse game than Rebirth
The first part was a hit yeah. But thats mostly nostalgia. Rebirth is trying to break away and stand on its own to a large degree and like everything else Squeenix has put out in the last half decade, they just can't stick the landing.
I honestly think they dont want to give people an actual remake because they still want to keep that as an emergency option for the far future.
But its being dragged out for so long people are starting to lose interest.
>They tried to bring FF back to its roots with Remake/Rebirth.
kys
Net profit down 70% sounds bad, but its actually good.
Oh nooooo we only made a little bit of profit this year! Instead of a lot!
15% due to foamstars flop.
Good riddance to AA slop
Final Fantasy is now an AA tier IP, it sells as much as Nioh and Dragons Dogma, not AAA tier games like Fromsoft Souls-likes, Resident Evil, Monster Hunter etc.
You clearly don't understand what AAA means
You clearly don’t understand what “stop trying grab men’s wieners” means
If we're going to be pedantic then it has an AAA budget with AA level sales, which is exactly the problem and why Square is restructuring, having mass layoffs etc
SE clearly sees the problem is console exclusivity and not the actual game. The game is the best they have released in a couple decades
SE is wrong, console exclusivity is only one part of their problem. Capcom learned this the same way, they not only started to focus on PC but drastically improved all of their IPs. Resident Evil 2 was a massive step up from Resident Evil 7 for example and really started the new era of RE games. World took Monhun to new levels, SF6 revived a dead IP. Dragons Dogma 2 is probably the least innovative sequel but the exploration/RPG atmosphere was just as good as the original with better combat and despite the massive flaws it still beat expectations and they now want to consider it another pillar in their collection of IPs. Square is failing on every front, multi-plat is a good first step but they need to hire some people who know how to make combat fun, how to make exploration fun and then build their story/visuals around that instead of vice versa.
Dude DD2 is a massive disappointment. It had better hype leading up to it, that's the only reason it sold well. It's a worse game compared to rebirth by a giant margin
>hire some people who know how to make combat fun
You seem almost level headed, but when you deny reality so hard it's impossible to discuss. You are just going to pretend people don't like rebirths combat, because you don't like it?
The only people I've seen saying positive things about its combat are people who compare it to other modern Final Fantasy games which is an incredibly low benchmark. No one's seriously defending it when you compare it to other ARPGs
I wouldn't call it a massive disappointment and it's certainly better than Rebirth. The combat and exploration is infinitely more fun and while the story is also a mess at least it's very open and doesn't bog you down with a lot of a huge amount of additional cutscenes that weren't in the original, it focuses on the gameplay and was a fun playthrough because of it
>. No one's seriously defending it when you compare it to other ARPGs
People who play Rebirth praise it's combat in general. There is no definitive 'best combat', it's subjective in your preference. I don't like ARPG combats, I much prefer Rebirths hybrid
>People who play Rebirth praise it's combat in general.
Not that I've seen
>There is no definitive 'best combat', it's subjective in your preference.
Subjective to a degree, that's fair but there's a reason why souls-like gameplay basically became the standard for action games and why there's so many spinoffs now, it's fundamentally good with a lot of room for variance
>I don't like ARPG combats
This explains why you like what FF7R has, it's fine to enjoy it but it's still going to get compared to its peers
>I wouldn't call it a massive disappointment and it's certainly better than Rebirth
Lmao okay, you are just trolling. You are using your own unpopular opinion and generalizing it as the overall opinion. Honestly moron tier, most players were dissapointed in DD2, most players were impressed by Rebirth
I don't know anyone who played DD1 who found 2 to be a massive disappointment, maybe not as good as 1 but most people enjoyed it. The only people I see who didn't like 2 were people who had never played 1 and had mismatched expectations. The DD2 general was nothing but praise. Did you even play both games? Meanwhile no one has anything redeeming to say about Rebirths story, Chadley is still a horrific addition to the game. It's a big step up from Remake but still lackluster with the open world being absolutely awful compared to Elden Ring, TotK, Dogma etc. Putting stuff in VR missions instead of putting it all in the world is absolutely soulless. The praise I will give to Rebirth is that the characters do feel alive, same with remake, Yuffie is cuter than ever, Aerith is a likeable character but then they butcher characters like Dyne because they have to change everything good about the original
>SF6 revived a dead IP
By selling worse than its predecessor?
Post budget, dumbass.
>It's bait because it's true
The only thing Squeenix did recently that sold well was Dragon Quest Monsters and that game looks like it was made with a budget of 2000 yen and a pack of expired ramen
It's over. SE bankrupt in 2 weeks
Doomsissies always lose
TORtanic wrecked Ganker. it's been chasing that high forever
>He's seething this much he is just making stuff up because his precious company is dying before his very eyes
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THE PEOPLE THAT HIRED SWEET BABY INC ARE GETTING FIRED
SQUEENIX IS HEALING
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At the end of the day, you can type
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But Square is dying and I have won
won what?
Making SquareSissies seethe. They wont be making anymore games like Rebirth or 16 after the terrible sales. Thank god for that
part3 is already in development though. I guess it might get a day 1 PC this time, so it's different
Did they fire everyone involved with FF7 Remake and Rebirth? They can keep the animators
Kill
yourself
right now
I accept seeing you eject yourself into the sun
Nothing makes me happier than watching Rebirth fail. One of the loudest, most annoying fanbases in gaming crushed.
>they "remake" ff7
>which boils down to taking the basic plot from the original and mangling it with moronic padding/filler, time jannies and timeline retcon garbage
>WAOOOWW SUCH A GOOD STORY I LOVE HOW WELL THEY DID WITH [the elements they yoinked from the original FF7 and didn't alter too much
I hate consoomers. Literally praising Square for copying their own homework and making it worse.
They also announced an across the board course correction highlighting that moving forward they´ll shift focus from quantity to quality and will go full multyplat. Fricking finally. With this plus the layoffs we may at least see them try to make good games for the first time in 20 years.
I do think it´s too late though. Most of the talented artists that ever worked for them are either too old to return or have long moved on and the same can be said about the loyal fanbase that supported them between the 80´s and the early 2000´s. They are also too old or have moved on. Tourists move with trends, can SE even survive without trying to appeal to them? Those consumers are all they have left...
SE should adopt what Nintendo has done. Put the story and the core gameplay concepts into a really simplified old school game and play it that way.
If it works, makes sense, is fun, and has good pacing that way. Then spend the money to bring it up to AA visual standards.
Basically just what they did with Trials of Mana, or Dragon Quest 11.
Do that with Final Fantasy 6, and give it some advertising.
IDK about remakes but i agree with the rest. I couldn´t care less for Rebirth, XVI (GoT clone) or that weird souls clone they tried to do with SoP but it thoroughly enjoyed DQ XI charming anime style, simple story and classic gameplay.
they should fire wuk lamat's troony VA :^)
Please fire the troony VA
I considered working for Squenix a little over a decade ago, but when I went to apply, the initial hiring/HR contact lady was a literal moron and rather than argue with her over their own hiring practices, I found somewhere else to work.
They lost A LOT of money trying to pretend women actually BUY video games.
Fujoshits do buy a lot of games, its why FFX was so popular. They are an obsessive bunch like furries. But they aren't enough to carry modern AAA budgets.
>I-I-IT HAS THE BEST COMBAT IN THE SERIES
>Game sold poorly and the company is making employee cutbacks
Hmmm...
I hope the give Just Cause to some other studio than gay sweds that made both horrible games after 2
But man can only dream
*brand
>US and EU
And nothing of value was lost.
and nothing was gained either, they didn't push out the failures in japan who are costing them billions
BUT BUT BUT BUT Ganker told me Final Fantasy Rebirth sold GAZILLIONS and is this year BIGGEST SUCCESS and EVERYONE loved!?
What happened Ganker!?
if part 3 looks like shit because it targets switch 2 hardware i'm coming for your heads tendies
pc versions are based though
They aren't going to drastically change the framework and graphics for part3.
Switch might get targeted by the FFIX remake or FFXVII
>f part 3 looks like shit
Worse than it already looks?
rebirth has lighting issues which does not neccessary mean its an performance issue
i am scared that if part 3 needs to able to run on ps4 tier specs for switch 2 we will get a severe reduction in everything that remotely affects memory usage
particles,LoD,amount of npcs,enemy density,city density
The open world is already devoid of anything interesting, nothing was lost
>The open world is already devoid of anything interesting
You mean, you don't enjoy le Ubisoft chore checklist and fighting monster gang #1382?! B-b-b--but this game is GoTY with incredible content!!!
>They aren't going to drastically change the framework and graphics for part3.
They changed from Part 1 to Part 2
Part 2 looks like shit near Part 1
your muh grafics obsessed moronic ass is why SE is in this dogshit situation in the first place.
switch 2 forcing every dev to make cheaper smaller asset games will benefit the whole industry.
>MFW people think Rebirth has good graphics.
rebirth has schrodingers graphics, it's both good and bad
probably the most recent game with the MOST incomsistent graphics
They need to completely redo the lighting system everywhere that isn't indoors
Not a single Japanese video game has been even top 10 of visuals. MSGV was probably the closest but then you go into Africa and god damn the draw distance and quality of the world takes a nose dive when its not just sand and cliffsides
And the drain continues to spiral
>Nintendo grows more successful
>Takes other Japanese companies talented employees
>Other companies get worse and their sales fall
>Nintendo takes more of their talent
>They get even worse
>Nintendo takes more of their talent
Soon enough Nintendo will have a monopoly on Japan
That's because Nintendo has better management and seem to actually reward employees for remaining with the company.
>That's because Nintendo has better management and seem to actually reward employees for remaining with the company.
The biggest difference is in consistency. Nintendo has been very successful for virtually their entire time in this industry. The only period they were ever failing was the Wii U until the switch, and even then it was just mediocre not bad. So if you are talented you'd like to work there since you know layoffs are unlikely.
I remember a story of someone who was a passionate developer and worked hard to build up a resume worthy of Nintendo, he applied, got the job and instantly developed an inferiority complex because everyone at Nintendo as so incredibly skilled while being equally passionate. They really do attract the industries best talent
>Soon enough Nintendo will have a monopoly on Japan
That would imply that they already don't after sony decided to become a western company.
PUT IT ON PC
I PROMISE IT WILL MAKE YOU A BILLION DOLLARS
Nintendo generally sticks with keeping their games similar and doesn't change the formula just to invalidate their core audience.
I would give them a lot more credit than that. BotW and TotK were big changes to the Zelda formula and people loved it. Nintendo does genuinely make good games
Its cause the old formula was running dry, and not bringing in new audiences.
Sure for whatever reason they changed the formula but it proves they can can do change that formula at times and when they do it's largely extremely successful. Capcom managed to adjust to the modern era but Square is still behind
>but Square is still behind
Square adjusted to the modern era over a decade ago. They just didn't realize it.
>Capcom
So 2 failed online REs we are just going to ignore? We are also going to really test that with Dogma 2 selling hot then getting pretty panned as people played it and saw it runs dry quick. MH Wilds might have the same performance issues, and RE9 being open world could be disastrous.
Something I see no one talking about is S-E went from 70% of game sales being digital, to now 80% from 2023 to 2024 fiscal. Even Sony is 66%.
Ignore it in the same way we typically ignore all the smaller projects Square has like the LIVE A LIVE remake. Yes Capcom doesn't have a 100% success rate but at the same time all its major IPs Monhun, Resident Evil, Street Fighter and now Dragons Dogma are doing very well, exceptionally well as far as sales are concerned that the smaller budget risks like RE online failing doesn't impact the company in a significant way. You might be right, Wilds could have the same performance issues, RE9 could be a disaster but that's only potentially and given the reception to Dragons Dogma performance I don't think they will risk anything but exceptional levels of polish for what is now their biggest IP. While Dogma 2 got dogpiled for performance issues and hypocrtically the microtransactions the game was actually really good, flawed but still great and regardless, the sales were so strong they want to make Dragons Dogma a core IP now meaning that any future iteration should have a bigger budget with more polish. I'm not sure we can really compare Capcom to square with a straight face, Square could learn a lot from Capcom
There is definitely a difference between remaking an old game, a tiny IP at that, compared to trying RE Online like 3 different times post-Outbreak files. Plus one of those was glued to RE3 Remake to justify a 3 hour 60 dollar game.
>the sales were so strong they want to make Dragons Dogma a core IP now meaning that any future iteration should have a bigger budget with more polish
ah yes after DMC5 did very well they definitely didn't give Itsuno enough money and time to cook. Surely this time he will make a game that doesn't reuse enemies the entire game even in different regions, and actually have new vocations and new skills that aren't reused.
There is a reason S-E is doubling down on the big projects, and cut 140m in losses of AA/smaller projects. Diofield, Valkyrie Elysium and the sort have no chance of hitting it big while they can recover their major IPs cause the pieces are all there just behind dumb business practices.
If there is something they will never be able to shake off, its the anime/weeb shit for FF. That immediately does hurt the potential audience if you don't lean into it hard enough where you just make it about dating teenagers ala Persona or Fire Emblem
>ah yes after DMC5 did very well they definitely didn't give Itsuno enough money and time to cook. Surely this time he will make a game that doesn't reuse enemies the entire game even in different regions, and actually have new vocations and new skills that aren't reused.
Sure, you might be right that he won't be able to make DD3 any better but DD2 was still a fun game despite the flaws. The gameplay is enjoyable and the world fun to explore, certainly more so than Squares latest offerings with a significantly lower budget. I'm not sure if the anime/weeb shit is really that big of an issue, weeb shit is increasingly popular with anime being more popular than ever, vtubers being mainstream, gacha games being incredibly popular etc. But I wouldn't be opposed to FF7 part 3 letting you pick which girl to romance, the correct choice of course would be Yuffie
>they can recover their major IPs cause the pieces are all there just behind dumb business practices.
Oh they absolutely can't, the problem is that the big ventures cost them way too much money that even dlc and mtx can't cover so they're going multiplat with it hoping that more people will buy instead of doing the smart thing in making smaller games and actually advertising them properly.
The problem is that PC, Nintendo and to a lesser extent Xbox players have something Sony players don't which will result in these big games continuing to fail.
>The problem is that PC, Nintendo and to a lesser extent Xbox players have something Sony players don't which will result in these big games continuing to fail.
Taste?
I was going to say standards but close enough.
There is no amount of advertising or shilling on Ganker that could make Diofield, Triangle Strategy or that newest SaGa game big hits.
>Triangle Strategy
You are aware that this game was successful right?
Meanwhile FF16...
Surely we are due for the next one, 100% right. Or the HD-2D has been so successful that DQ3 is finally coming out...
No one here knows the budget for anything, just parroting LTD sales like it means anything.
>No one here knows the budget for anything,
We don't need to know, if they go on to say that the game was successful, which happens a lot with square then that's that.
On the other hand if they're acting like a game doesn't exist like with Rebirth, along with their reports, we can determine it was massively unsuccessful.
and yet they greenlit the third game regardless because they know there is money to be made.
Funny you could replace those games with FFXVI or 7R and it'd be even more accurate.
>Dogma 2 selling hot then getting pretty panned as people played it and saw it runs dry quick
Yeah the game has no legs, they destroyed the good will.
Wait for BBI 2.0, surely.
I am not going to pretend to know the budget for either. The only thing we know of for sure about Rebirth is it took 3 years to make and they kept basically the same staff. So the much larger game than Remake was done very quickly, with one of the smoothest developments they've had.
Square development cycles are pretty smooth because they use the same development style as 14 unfortunately that smooth development cycle leads to a lot of repetitive and soulless elements like VR missions because the trello board basically says "3 end game bosses", "3 mini games" and whichever guy picks up that tickets shoves it in a lazy VR mission instead of crafting a section of the world for it like you would expect in an RPG
>RE remakes continue to sell less than the last
>They were crying about how Rise/Sunbreak didn't outsell World/Iceborne
>SF6 like the rest of the genre is niche again
>Megaman is dead, again
>Kept claiming DD would go to new heights but instead barely improve on anything and be less interesting
>Practically no more double AA games after they nuked so many IPs with those dogshit mobile games that flopped
>Announced more fricking remakes on the way
I hate this company
I hate that RE7 did so fricking well that they just try to make every game play like it which is funny because not only is it the highest selling RE game, its DLC also sold extremely well, unlike further dlc going forward.
Dogma 2 selling more than Redditbirth
>game has no legs
People didn't expect DD1 to have long legs but the DLC and release on PC gave it huge legs. If they can ease the performance issues and the DLC is passable then I think it'll have great legs too because it's a great game. I had no performance issues because I have a 4090 but I can understand peoples frustrations if they were excited for it and couldn't run it
>DLC
Its a re-release and the original game had good faith despite its issues, and it was hyped by many and PC gamers ate it up.
We'll see, did you finish 2? Bbecause I thought it was excellent. Not as good as 1 but I think anyone who enjoyed the gameplay of 1 and the atmosphere of travelling with your pawns will love 2 as well
Not him but I stopped 44 hours in goofing around doing side quests. I started to blitz the main story, quit after following the big statue of which didn't matter if you engaged with it or just let it automatically move cause the outcome is the same. I think 20 of those hours I hadn't seen any new enemy types. I was honestly over it by the time I nearly maxed out the Thief and realized how many skills were re-used from DD1. The amount of new content might be less than 10% compared to reused content
Game was good, not as good as 1 but a better sequel than Remake/Rebirth was
I love this company, I'm ecstatic that homosexuals like you are miserable.
>Miserable
But I'm happy, I don't buy triple a slop anymore and haven't in a while including Crapcom games so I don't feel ripped off or have buyers remorse like the past.
What games do you enjoy lately? I too prefer indie titles but I like some AAA games. Fromsoft, Nintendo and Capcom games are generally reliably good
>Nintendo
what? a mediocre 2D mario game a shitty peach shovelware game an asset flip ubisoft tier open world game and not one but two demakes... how is this good?
Wonder was great, clearly I'm talking about major releases and not wooly world of peach tier shovelware. But what games have you been enjoying?
>People didn't expect DD1
? It was constantly talked about and steamies kept begging for the game for years until they finally gave it to them and it was a functional port.
And thanks to those "Steamies" the game sold over 8 million copies in its lifetime, so they would have been dumb to ignore them. Hell they saved DD2 considering how much lower the consoles sales were in comparison.
I forgot about Dyne. Another travesty of Rebirth, just like Cid. They are too scared of having mature audiences play their games. That's why games like Witcher 3 are just better
The Dyne scene was much better because it was different from the original. If you wanted the same thing again go play the original. It hasn't gone anywhere.
The original is simply better in all aspects anyway
>different is better
Oh no. I bet you thought them rubbing it in your face how Avalanche did nothing wrong and Shinra was replacing all their bombs with bigger bombs to frame them was great, we're the wholesome good guys afterall
Dyne death was the single most butchered scene for me in Rebirth compared to OG.
In Remake it was President shinras death (honestly that was way worse)
>guy who survived falling off a cliff, surely won't also survive falling off a cliff again
I never liked the cliff falling, in Rebirth I hated how chocobo racing comes before it plus gyshal green stuff. The pacing is all over the place from arriving at Costa del Sol to leaving Saucer post-Dyne
>US
>EU
>But not Japan
They have 10 seconds to explain why this gay flopmaking pedophile still has a job
it seems final fantasy has made it's final sale
>keeping the ethics department
lol this company can die
Good
This is the most antisemitic and racist thing square has ever done.
I bet you that nomura hasnt apolagized for korean comfort women.
The Savior
They should fire the ethics department and restore the 16 year old Tifa cleavage that I paid money for three years ago.
15 year old.
Or you know... not make a shitty reimaging no one asked for and just make a simple remake. Yeah yeah I know Nomura would be sad but his ideas are trash and wont cost your company millions so who cares.
It's because Japan has way better labor laws.
Square-Enix would mass lay off Japanese employees if they could.
Japanese dev salaries tend to be lower than NA and many parts of the EU. Probably save more money laying off the gaijin
Things arent looking good there either it seems. They are keeping the losers in their main branch because they cant replace them.
While they have a little bit of inflation like most of the world it's not as drastic as he makes out. His issue is he's sending money out of the country constantly and I have no sympathy for that
Food prices have more or less doubled. Rent is next.
Food prices have not doubled at all and Japan has a fairly good housing market outside of Tokyo I wouldn't expect that to double either
>outside of Tokyo
That's key here. With a culture so averse to WFH and the actual hours you're wasting in commute it's not a nice spot to be in.
And maybe they've not exactly doubled yet but you're definitely seeing an increase beyond what the government can't subside. Even street food got 25%~50% more expensive, that's a good way to kill your local economy in spending for anything other than bare necessities.
Really miss the times you could rent a single room straight out of Welcome to the NHK for 60kyen/mo lol
It's not key at all and it's nothing new. WFH sucks in any creative field and commuting in Japan is better than in many countries because their infrastructure isn't totally shit
>WFH sucks in any creative field
The doujin scene will always prove you wrong.
Got me there, accept my concession
>Wage cuts coming
Yeah they're fricked
>Rent increase
>in japan
what like 300 yen?
But they can replace them bro? With based SEAbro employees!
SEA will save Japan
>yen stronger than the dollar
wtf is this guy smoking?
he is right, it WAS, but now its just frick
no it wasn't, in 2010 the yen was like 1 cent
Wait is that why all those imports I made back then went from 300 to a staggering 150 a couple years later? I had no idea...
No because if anyone bothered to read into it, its all from the US/EU publishing side. All non-development staff pretty much.
16 recouped its cost at 3.5m+ sales, if XV with its development did with its 5m launch sales. S-E is the same company who said Rise of the Tomb Raider's 5 million sales were a failure in its launch year. Then like 5 years later we hear its sold over 10m.
16 also caused their cash cow 14 to underperform due to stealing so many staff from it and they aren't looking to break even, Final Fantasy is supposed to be their AAA money maker not break even AA tier
>FF15 made money despite being in development hell for over 10 years
>16 and 7-2 failed
lmao my god what a failure of a company
People were excited for a game that wasn't XIII, and then they pissed away any good will the brand had left.
Square's localization teams are all settled in their JP offices you morons lol
>16 is the lowest selling game in existance and it's entirely because it's PS5 exclusive
16 died so that the concept of exclusives would die with it.
>16 died so that the concept of exclusives would die with it.
Best moment of that night, god damn
Rebirth sold worse XVI