Star Ocean bros looks like we are finally getting a proper remake of the best game in the series. They kept the soulful spritework but redid the environments, what do we think?
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Meh, just localice the japanese psp port of the ps4
This looks like more than that though
Any actual criticism?
It looks absolutely and irredeemably hideous. The charm of the visuals are wiped away by that frick-ugly HD-2D shit that makes shit look like an early gen 7 game with bloom out the ass.
>tfw ill enjoy the remake and can still enjoy the original because im not autistic
feels fricking good.
But there's already a remake you can play
Because it has never been released in EN before while base 2 was already released multiple times
>But there's already a remake you can play
yeah and?
this one isnt out yet.
not sure why people feel like they can only play one version of a game. too tiny of a brain or something to play multiple ones?
So maybe they will release blue sphere in the future if this sells well? We know they can't make new games for shit, it's inevitable. Also, Blue Sphere finally got a proper fan translation recently, if you really want to play.
This is an extremely solid gbc game really underrated for obvious reasons
>proper
are you talking about the leaked unfinished one with lots of machine translation or did someone make a new one?
Someone did a proper translation and even went as far as to put it on a GBC cartridge and make a custom box for it. They sold a few hundred of them to fans. Very impressive.
>Sprites that are totally jarring and clash with the background
>New portrait art looks like ass, no attempt was even made to replicate the feeling of the original OR any of the other remakes
>Doesn't include Blue Sphere
Blue Sphere is a completely separate game, why would they include it? It's not like some sort of expansion pack or DLC.
>>New portrait art looks like ass, no attempt was even made to replicate the feeling of the original OR any of the other remakes
Second Evolution's portrait art is tied with Ys: Memories of Celceta for being the most butchered remake artstyle I've ever seen. I do not care that the PSP version was a formative part of your middle school years. I just don't. The art is fricking awful
It's funny, there was this exact same reaction on Ganker when Second Evolution was announced, and now SE is seen as the ideal instead.
Fixed magic spells, fast travel, japanese voice track? The original English voices were nostalgic and funny but fricking terrible.
I think Second Evolution is just fine compared to the original for the most part but goddamn I hate how blobby the portraits are, the new ones are on the same level as the original portraits to me
Octopath LARP art is far shittier than a lesser anime style recreation
>there are people who think the shitty PSP art looks better than Akiman
Same artist who does Capcom's slop art by the looks of it, no wonder it looks like Westoid shit
>This game will sell well
Yeah just like 6 right? lmao
>akiman
SO2R artist is kajimoto
always ashton
>Same shit artist as 6's god ugly style
I knew it
S06 had amazing concept art. It was the 3d models that were terrible
The concept art looks like shit and the 3D models trying to larp it only made it uglier.
Just a fricking horrendous looking game visually like every Star Ocean after 3 which at least only looked like shit because it was on PS2 more than anything
Artist can't draw an attractive girl to save his fricking life either so it's no surprise that he ruined all of SO2's girls
You keep trying to imply that the Second Evolution art is better in which case I invite you to step in front of a moving train
They're both shit but one is both shit and out of place, which is the nu art
Fricking Opera looks like a man in a wig like all of that artists' "women"
so is it ok for a star ocean game?
is worth to pirate it?
For a star ocean game its great
ill give it a chance then.
i play star ocean 1 in a snes emulator like 20 years ago. with a fan traslation patch
played star ocean 2 in ps1
and star ocean 3 in ps2
i havent touch any other star ocean game after those.
Some were better than others
She should've been a party member
God they were so fricking generic.
matching the artist's vision
>New portrait art looks like ass
Kys pedo. New character art looks even better than the original.
SO6 artists doesn't know how to draw girls
Okay pedo
I wont say the remake portrait art looks better than the original, they're both pretty good.
Miles better than the psp portrait art though.
>This looks like more than that though
Looks different thats why i want the other thing
>They kept the soulful spritework but redid the environments, what do we think?
It looks great. I'm really surprised, they actually took the original pre-rendered backgrounds and recreated them in full 3D in a similar style. I've never seen any remake do that, usually they just upscale them or totally change the style in the process.
The PS4 port is just an upscaled port of the PSP version, there'd be no point. 2 never got an R version with redone artwork like 1 did.
Then released the upscaled port, they did it with Lenneth
I love the spritework itself, but I hate how the blow-out the sprites with overdone bloom. That shit looks so bad to me.
Triangle Strategy let you turn that shit down even on the Switch version so PC will probably be able to reduce it.
I hope so. I'm 100% onboard, if that's the case. Even if someone finds an INI edit or wrapper or some shit that tones it down heavily, I'll be happy.
SO2 was the first RPG I played on the PSX - My parents got me it with my PSOne. I replayed it like 6 times in one year. When I finally got ahold of Final Fantasy 7/8/9, I was extremely confused as to what the fuss was about, as SO2 had way more game mechanics and neat shit riddled throughout it. Plus the private action system felt way more like a modern day RPG, where you actually build friendships with your party instead of it all being scripted.
The characters look good.
Besides the lighting and those trees, the environments look good.
The two together look comically bad.
I'm getting major MvC2 vibes which, let's be honest, looked like shit even back then.
>localice
Frick off.
Dumb reddit prostitute. You didn't play the game.
Kys, Eric
Dilate a little bit more Square shill
Soulless palm oil and micro plastic-filled remake. DO NOT WANT! GIVE ME SECOND EVOLUTION R!
Disgaree, the charcter art looks way more soulful and closer to the oringinal vibe than the previous remake
It absolutely does not, it looks closer to the art in 6 than anything
Not as soulful as the original but much better than this mid 2010s generic anime look
Soulless slop
The new art looks like total dogshit
I too seethe at new things to fit in on Ganker.
Listen here fricko, this is genuine unfiltered seethe. I’ve been waiting for Second Evolution R forever and then they cuck me with this nasty-ass garbage. This is the ultimate monkey’s paw as a fan of this game that’s been wanting it remastered like First Departure.
Isn't Second Evolution for you then? Like what would actually make you happy? The fact they kept the 2D sprites (which were one of the best decisions in the original) is enough for me, I've played this game like 20 times I want something new.
I own it for the PSP. It’s one of my favorite games. I wanted an HD port with high quality UI and portraits like FDR. I know most people hate the PSP portraits, but I like them, and hate that the clean HD versions are locked in SE’s vault forever now.
i bought the remake of the first one years ago and was always bummed when they initially stated they didnt have plans to remake the second game.
but now here we are. im excited.
are the physical copies going to sell out and get scalped like crazy?
I don't like pre-ordering shit, but I definitely want a physical copy.
highly doubt it. despite it being a popular ps1 game i dont think people these days really give a shit. you can even get the original at a reasonable price.
i honestly thought the same when live a live got announced and released so i bought that day one.
turns out nobody gave a shit and even went on sale a couple of times.
thanks, anon
looks good but the most important change by far is that magic is not locked into to 2+ minute cutscenes. magic builds may actually be viable in the extra content
>actually wanting that ugly remaster art
I just wanted the original backgrounds I don't really like the clashing
The environment art actually looks quite faithful to the original. The weird mixed traditional and CG buildings were charming but let's be honest about what a remake implies these days.
Star Ocean tries so fricking hard to look like West slop these days, why are they so ashamed of their anime roots?
Anime sucks, it's moronic.
>star ocean
>anime roots
star ocean is so far from tranime slop garbage that the entire fanbase recoiled when they turned SO4 into tranime slop cringefest
Anime existed before 2005, and used to have form, perspective, light & shadow etc
Superior Celine, incoming.
I'm a dumbass, I forgot the picture.
the portrait art is godtier but the sprites REALLY need some work, even the PSP version looks better there
Game looks absolutely fantastic and a great evolution of the original 2d pixel characters on 3d environments. It kept the original sprites while updating the 3d backgrounds and adding lighting. The only thing different is that they turned the default camera angle into the cutscene angle.
No idea what morons here are complaining about. It's unironically SOVLFULL.
that looks hideous
and I say that as someone who likes both the original SO2 and Octopath Traveller
Looks good to me but whatever.
You can’t
Using the fricking old sprites on the 3d is moronic and is likely the result of focus groups. Total creative bankruptcy.
Remaking all the sprites in a new style would probably double the remake's budget. Making them 3D would be a bad idea too because if they were kept as low detail as the environments intentionally are it'd go extremely poorly with the fast-paced combat which needs clear keyframes.
Just use the Anamnesis models
Rena's model suffers from dollface syndrome like CF from SO5.
her official art in this game already looks like an American girl doll so what's the problem
Claude also suffers from dollface syndrome from the same gacha game.
And what are they going to do for the hundred+ NPCs and enemies that weren't in Anamnesis? And how are they going to make those models work in a modified version of SO2's side-on combat system?
I genuinely believe that people who think this looks even mid and acceptable, let alone clowns who think this looks genuinely good, have some kind of brain tumour going on.
This image looks horrific.
Don't see what's so horrific about it compared to the original game.
It's been pointed out multiple times that the OG uses 2d sprites on 3d backgrounds too, but you can't reason with these people.
You're too young, you still lack SOVL
>You're too young
b***h I'm closer to 40 than anything else, I was playing these games 30 fricking years ago, that's how I know these really do look atrocious because I've already seen better, when they were actually trying to not just cut every corner and shit out the most low budget garbage possible, like every hd2d game does.
>and thats because they're using the originals
These aren't the original sprites, these are literally worse than the original sprites anon, look at any screenshot. They'd still look wildly out of place with these backgrounds, but if they used the og spritework it would look less bad than it currently does.
>low budget game
>looks like a low budget quick cash grab game
who are you fooling, you will be buying it.
>you will be buying it.
Will I? I could just play the original, or psp version which I still own in a drawer. Sure, I'll buy this, the same way I buy other hd2h games, when it's on a fricking 80% off sale and is what it's actually worth relative to the effort actually put in to it. hd2h is cancer, not a single game that has used it so far has not just been a corner cutting rushjob. The only game that showed any promise whatsoever of not looking like dogshit that used it is eiyuden, because lo and behold they appear to not just be using sprites made of 13 pixels slammed with bloom and dogshit lighting.
>noooo its just ur memory
My eyes work just fine dumbfrick, as should yours if you do what I said and take 10 seconds to google og screenshots.
If you unironically think that this
looks the same as the new one, you're all brain damaged
I don't really care what squenixes dumb excuses or reasoning is anon. I genuinely prefer zero remakes at all than half assed ones they give no budget to
>we want old style rpgs
True, with the actual budget, manpower and effort of those old rpgs.
But squenix are too busy burning their money throwing it into shitshow big budget games that fail, so that anon is right that them creating an actual good game in this genre was not on the table.
If you unironically think that this
looks the same as the new one, you're all brain damaged.
I don't think both look the same, I think SO2 devs(no matter who they were) could never get get 2d sprites on 3d settings right unlike
. Your shitty CRT just hid it from you.
I think you're a homosexual graphics prostitute because SO2 was always a much better game than BoF4 even if it was uglier.
Don't call others graphics prostitutes when complaining about graphics idiot.
You're the one whining about the graphics though, you illiterate moron?
Your problem is that you have no self awareness. Complaining that things don't look the same as your game on a CRT 20+ years ago is still being a graphics prostitute. Specifically the type of graphics prostitute that hates change. Well that's why 8-bit and 16-bit games exist again.
So your memory is just shit old man.
>40
Is my memory going to be that shit in only 8 years? Say it isn't so.
The only thing that looks bad are the sprites, and thats because they're using the originals. Why they didn't do updated, more detailed sprites is beyond me.
I mean it's not like it looks much better in the original with sprites over 3d models in towns are all those 3d backgrounds in battle. You just haven't played Star Ocean 2 in over a decade so you don't remember.
see
>It's horrific that they remade the game in the same style but better
>They should've made it all realistic and shit, like FF7R, the best remake ever
Trying to put words in my mouth isn't an argument lad. 7r was also dogshit, but hey at least it's main character models were visible I guess and not barely distinguishable from a town path. Pity the main cast models and shinra hq lobby were the only parts of the entire game that look good.
>but hey at least it's main character models were visible I guess and not barely distinguishable from a town path
Oh it's the blind moron again
Try putting on glasses
I should replay the original sometime soon, see no real reason to play the remaster.
Looking forward to hearing some of those songs again like The Venerable Fores, that shit holds a special place in my heart.
Then hell is wrong with them, why that shitty gritty look
>gritty
Kek this homie saw shading in the art and thought it was berserk
They're trying to apply Star Ocean 6's shitty art style to the old games
Star Ocean, like Persona, started at 3.
It started and ended at 2
Never played the series. What can I expect ?
A franchise with 2 good games and a lot of garbage.
Make sure you have a guide on hand while playing 2 btw, you can easily miss a lot of shit.
It has more than 2 good games. 2 is considered one of the best JRPGs ever. 3 was super popular. 4 and 6 are solid. And 1 is, old but fine. 5 is super low budget.
>4 and 6 are solid. And 1 is, old but fine.
We're going to have to disagree here anon.
Really did give them a chance, but every SO game that isn't 2 or 3 was just shit to me.
SO5 in particular is probably my most hated game of all time, everything about that shit just struck a bad chord with me.
You’ll notice I didn’t really try to defend SO5. The best I can do there is blame it on budget issues. Which I do think is reasonable.
It looks amazing, I can't wait to play it with all the improvements. Also, the same gay who kept spamming this thread with negative commentary is extremely obvious. Sad! This game will sell well and you will forever be butthurt.
>good UI in a modern remake
we're going home
Did other PC always follow Claude on field? I remember only Claude running on the field but then again it has been decade since I finished the game
It was only your MC in the previous versions, yeah.
>there are people who never played the original and saw that funky ass spell mixing mechanic that rarely happened
Unless you turned off motor mouth and cast the spells yourself in the right timing.
I've played the original a bunch of times and I have no idea what you're referring to.
>it's real
Learn something new every day
It's not wonder because the game makes no mention of the mechanic beyond the mysterious spell shit in the bottom right corner. I find the idea cool but triggering it required way too much work and enemies could absorb your spell too IIRC.
You had to ideally turn off motor mouth or it would never work.
alright, Ganker, this is important
ashton or opera
Ashton.
Total chad + OP + barrel enthusiast.
Opera looks like shit in the remake and Ashton is the best character so him
Ashton is the greatest JRPG party member of all time. I have never ever used Opera, and unless they add some kind of post game free for all mode this time I will continue to never use Opera
Same with Precis and Bowman. They just handed us the easiest decision on a platter
Ashton, no contest.
Vast majority of the time grabbed Ashton and paired him with Precis.
Ashton is cool despite being a wuss and has great interactions with other characters, Opera is overpowered as frick but gets like half as many PAs as Ashton does for some reason.
It'd be great if the remake adds even more PAs to the game.
I love maxing out Opera's Healing Star so I can kick Rena out of the party and have another DPS character. this is especially useful for the end of the bonus dungeon and the super bosses because Opera can wear Bloody Armor but Rena cannot.
if you don't plan on doing the bonus dungeon, or you don't like relying on that armor they're both fine choices.
both
trailer showed leon and dias in the same party so they might have gotten rid of exclusives
Ashton
You also get best UUOH too so it's even better
You don't need Ashton to get Precis and Precis isn't a e-girl
Precis is just too cute and her beauty transcends through whatever artstyle they throw at her.
We so fricking won
I hope they used the money I wasted on 6 to fund this one.
Star Ocean 6 was the best star ocean since 3.
Yes I agree but that's not saying much since 4 and 5 were dogshit.
Here's your synard bro
Also confirms an overworld
the sprites are going to look like ass on that high res 3D rendered overworld lmao
It looks good in the high res detailed town, why wouldn't it look good in the overworld?
That looks like fricking shit and horrifically out of place.
Shit taste and underage
Sprites only belong on pre-rendered backgrounds or sprite backgrounds
3D shit + sprites is literally zoomercore you fricking toddler
>zoomercore
Damn I didn't know Xenogears was a zoomer game now
I'll honestly never understand why people like pre-rendered backgrounds. Even when I was a kid I thought they looked like total shit.
>even when I was a kid I had shit taste
their only problem is their readability.
Can i go behind that tree and further on to the next screen? because it looks like i can.
You can walk behind that tree to get to the raised section in the back, yes.
Now show it with sprites. It looks even more out of place than sprites on 3D. The dissonance of seeing sprites move on top of a static picture was always shit.
>Now show it with sprites.
ok
Looks good because unlike the shit ass remake the sprites aren't ugly as frick in the original
They're the exact same sprites though.
Ironic that you post that image where Homer is specifically supposed to be out of place - hence everyone staring at him.
>They're the exact same sprites though.
Resolution matters
>Ironic
The characters being out of place in the environments was my point.
what game
Chrono cross
very beautiful
>Even when I was a kid I thought they looked like total shit
You're proving my point, the readability of this is fricking awful.
Toddlers who literally have no perception lmao hate to see it
Let me guess you want there to be some fricking arrows pointing you where you can move?
Sorry you were born a little too soon for your own good.
Dude what? There's one obvious path in that image, are you fricking blind?
I never even played that game and i can tell this statement has made you into a total fricking moron for most people in the thread
Good job if trolling, i guess, 6/10
Ah yes, Ys VI. My favorite zoomer game
No, he's right. The background and character sprites clash horribly. It looks like the animated skits from Death Battle. The character art is way better but all they had to do was make it match up with First Departure R. Why do all this nonsense?
Are you stupid? There’s always been an overworld.
Its a remake anon. Its fair to say they could've ditched the overworld entirely. Most JRPGs from the past decade stopped doing overworlds.
overworld was kino.
I hate modern jrpg removing it, it makes the games feel way more linear
That said, SO3 and SO4 had good level design, the fields and dungeons were good even if the games lacked an overworld. Tales is SO bad in that regard, I’m surprised someone could greenlit those awfuls copy/pasted in areas in Tales of Xillia.
Srsly, so4 and so6 only lacked costumes, Gameplay and level design are years ahead of modern tales
remake when?
The music is so good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMp75JtBNjk
blue sphere was fun, a remake that looked like this so2 one would be nice, as would an official localization
i worry it'd end up going the so1fd route and losing a lot of its identity in the process of having its jank ironed out/replaced in favor of broader appeal though
This is everything I wanted in a remake of Star Ocean 2. Im so hyped.
Star Ocean has the last non pozed fanbase in all of JRPGs.
If you think the left looks better you are beyond help
why is she so smug?
She's just a smug lady
She's an elf, there's only one cure for that kind of smug..
Who here always ran with the same party everytime they replayed the game? I think I've always done Ashton + Precis like an autist.
I've only played the game twice (original psx back then + psp remake), but I always have the same party: Claude + Rena + Ashton + Celine.
Easy and fun.
Spellcasters making the late game extremely slow pushed me into the same warrior party every time. Now that they are fixing it with R I might actually get to try Leon or Celine out.
>always took Celine along even if I never used her after getting a 5th party member
>Spellcasters making the late game extremely slow
yeah I usually kick Celine out of the team pretty early and never use Leon. hopefully they are actually worth using with the new combat changes.
if not, I'll probably just go Claude, Opera (healer), Chisato, and another physical character like I normally do.
Isn't she the first character that joins your party after the two leads? She is better than nothing, I always recruit her and user her until I get more useful characters. Unless the magics do annoy you a lot, guess it might happen to some people.
Is this the first instance in history of a remake being targeted at fans of the original instead of modern children? Is that why this gay is getting so upset about it while everyone else loves it?
is that some fricking akiman or some akiman impersonator? based art
Kek this homie going full schizo because his first SO game is the psp game
I started with 3 and I still think this looks like shit
t.played SO2 on Ps1 and then the PSP remake
Developer is Gemdrops, not tri-Ace.
I believe it. Tri-ace hasn't made a good looking game in a long time. Great engine though.
>more star ocean
It's welcome. Shitposters suck my dick
Anamnesis is the last good Star Ocean game and unlike this didn't look like shit
>gachashit
We got like 10 extremely cute Renas out of Anamnesis but let's not kid ourselves it was shitty.
>Gacha shit
irrelevant to the fun of the game and the fact that visually it's better than anything that came after it
Gacha is automatically a dock
Anamnesis was probably the most generous gacha ever made. It was so generous with currency and tickets that it literally killed the game because there was no reason to whale.
No, that title goes to Terra Battle, which didn't have rotating banners, was 4% pull rate on every single pull for the highest tier of unit, and operated entirely like a "box gacha" where you could permanently remove any unit from the pool by pulling it enough (20) times
Anamnesis had 5% pull rates for banner units, pulling dupes instantly limit breaked the unit or gave you materials to limit break any unit if that unit was already maxed out, showered you with enough currency to do 10+ multipulls every month just by doing the daily shit that you can finish in 5 minutes, gave out shitloads of 5* tickets and even 5* ace tickets, and let you play multiplayer with 0 stamina cost.
Her 3d model was also shit.
Has there ever been any official stats on the most picked party members for SO2? Would be interested on who basically never gets picked.
Probably Ernest since he's mysterious as frick to recruit but also not very good. Everyone else is basically handed to you.
Pictured - Better art than this nu-shit that actually captures the spirit of the game
It doesn't help that you have to give up on ashton just for the chance
That Precis sure looks soft.
>Would be interested on who basically never gets picked.
probably either Ernest (since Ashtongays can't get him, he requires a bunch of backtracking, and he isn't that good in combat) or Noel (since you get him late and he's just a worse Rena). Ernest is probably the least recruited, and Noel is probably recruited most of the time, but still rarely used.
between noel and chisato, I always go with chisato.
Noel is literally the worst character in the game and there is no one else even close while chisato is a martial arts combo queen.
Most people won't recruit Noel, he appears too late, you already have Rena as a healer and choosing him might mean losing Chisato.
Celine might be a relatively popular choice for your first walktrough. People will probably think they need at least one magician in their party and she looks cute and is the first one that joins you. But I don't think most people will bother with the others.
I don't get why they keep the sprites the same when they update the rest of the game. Why not put in the extra effort to animate the things you'll be looking at the whole game? It doesn't even look bad outside of the low quality sprites unlike most HD2D games.
Because Tri-Ace is a dying company because nu-Star Ocean keeps flopping (deservedly so)
Tri-ace isn't making this game though. Like all the other HD-2D games its made by a completely different company
My point exactly, it's just the old game being prostituted out to some 3rd party shit because the actual developer is fricking terminal
tri-ace are not doing well not because they're bad, but because their big flops are always tied to squenix, and modern squenix is fricking run by clowns who tell tri-ace to make the dogshit they want rather than what tri-ace fans want.
tri ace made 13-2 and LR for them, those did just fine. so4 port? just fine, because it wasn't a new game so nu squenix weren't cucking it. resonance of fate port? fine, sega not squenix.
so5? squenix. made it sony exclusive and cucked the shit out of it in a variety of ways above and beyond that. s06? squenix. finally not exclusive, so it did better than 5, but squenix still cucked the shit out of it.
did SE make them hire that ugly ass artist and then make those ugly Ps3 tier models for So6 too?
I literally played this game a dozen times over back in the ps1 and 2 days, and I NEVER play any other jrpgs over and over like that.
I got tired of it for a long while for obvious reasons, but I probably haven't played it in fifteen years or more at this point.
Definite pick up.
Just PLEASE raise the damage cap of spells beyond 9,999 so mages don't become useless the moment you leave the planet.
This is just speculation but it seems like you might be able to increase Hp and Mp past 9999/999. The extra space in front of the values gives me this impression.
that could be cool, but more importantly I hope we can break the 9999 damage limit. would be a simple tweak to help make Celine and Leon more useful lategame.
I don't know about that, they probably just kept it free for presentation's sake. I'm interested in those icons in the lower left though, are they gonna add shortcuts for your allies' skills on the D-pad? How about the number in the bottom right?
Those battle effects look a bit excessive though, I don't want a repeat of 5 where you can't see a fricking thing under all the attacks.
>noel and chisato
HOLD ON!
What the frick is going on here?!
you can take both of them if you have 6 or fewer characters when you get to Nede.
Okay, but I looked at the pic again and it also has dias and leon in the same party too.
You can't do that in the original game because which one you get is dependent on if you pick rena or claud as the MC at the game start.
the ashton + opera dream
>dias and leon in the same party
yeah that's impossible in base game. I wonder if they just recorded a video in debug mode or if there really will be ways to get previously impossible character combos (and maybe more than 8 characters?).
would love to have Opera and Ashton.
>Opera, Ashton, and Celine in the same party
>Ashton getting teased by both of them at the same time
>Ashton instead of Claude
shippers everyone
That was already possible for Claude, dumb dumb. And Claude is less bullyable than Ashton.
>removing the limiter by mistake
No way that'll happen unless the remake makes it significantly easier to complete that quest.
Why do remakes insist on shitty phone tier GUIs?
I'm late to it but I actually think the second trailer is made it look like they are making casters viable in a different way.
In the second trailer rena is casting ray and if you watch very closely you'll notice that 1 it's in real time which was already mages #1 problem solved, but the second is that Ray hit the enemy twice which means some spells are going to be multihit, which for casters like leon it means that they might be able to keep up even with no damage cap (they might fall off for specifically repeat kills of ethereal queen or indy unlimited because that's when your multi hit setups on claude and ashton start approaching the damage cap where they weren't before but still doing more damage than the cap because multi hits).
Considering we haven't seen gameplay with the best equipment and max out talents I wouldn't be surprised if there are new talents to add more hits to spells. Or the more you use spells the more hits they do. What a time to be alive.
Seeing the trailers I can't help but feel they increased the cap on all the values.
>Or the more you use spells the more hits they do.
Very possible.
In the OG using spells more just made them do more damage on the singular hit they do, which was completely redundant and pointless because of the damage cap that mages slammed into hard.
What I'm really holding out hope for are some of the various cut content sidequests have a proper ending, and my true never ever I'm hoping on is them finishing the content to make prince of cross recruitable (in the original psx game files for an incomplete character that crashes the game if you load him in combat).
He was apparently supposed to share twin swords with Ashton, the only thing we really got is the special Celine ending where she ends up marrying him.
Can't wait to forge checks to buy shit again. God, I love this fricking game.
If the government can print money so can I
>This guy is STILL seething over the art
Zoomie trying really hard to bait
This autismo isn't half fricking seething over the art. What goes wrong in a person's brain to become like this?
Great, now they can ruin one of my first waifus even moreso. Rena went from looking like an actual young woman, beautiful and fertile, to a fricking toddler in the PSP ~~*remake*~~. What's next? A fetus?
Now she looks like a young boy in a wig, enjoy
She's always been a boy
OUT OF 10
They actually aged her up to be legal in Second Evolution. Shameful.
That's what you get for having shit taste anon.
Precis doesn't look any better
Shit taste
Shut up moron.
She looks perfect.
face is fricked
What controller is she using this time around?
logitech controller, she's planning on using it to steer the spaceship.
My first vidya crush is still so cute...
disturbing lack of precis ITT
>can't unhear original VA's "performance" on original PS1 version
I won't LOOoOOoOose my hatred of this autistic moron joke character—ever.
I'm glad I played the PSP version instead.
I played the original too much to hate the VA'ing in it.
The remake obviously needs a new dub, but I'm still going to miss numerous meme lines.
i always remember immediately regretting my decision to pick Claude when you get to that part where he and Rena split up going into the woods... and Rena gets fricking Dias as a party member, fricking OP-ass motherfricker.
"sprites on 3D backgrounds bad" has got to be one of the gayest opinions this board has ever had
Thats a good example, though. This has way to jarring of a difference between the sprites and the background. Imagine if you took your screenshot, improved the resolution 4x, then took the sprite, and halved the resolution. That feels like what they did here.
I am intrigued but is the medieval thing a temporal part? i like more the futurist part.
>I am intrigued but is the medieval thing a temporal part?
It's like 95% of the game
Interest dropped...
It's more like 80-85%.
The game takes 25 hours top anyway so it all depends on how much time you waste on the endgame.
He's overselling it. It's about 60%, the second half/disc takes place on a planet called Energy Nede, which is way more modern. Shit, one of the characters you recruit is reporter.
They are further along than "modern" anon. They live on an artificial planet and can lock people up in separate dimensions.
you spend the first half of the game on a medieval planet with the futuristic MC being forced to follow the Not-Prime Directive.
the second half of the game is on a supposedly hyper advanced planet, but the cities don't really look sci-fi and all the dungeons are caves, ruins, castles, etc.
I personally love the game but it doesn't have much to appeal to sci-fi gays.
Was the Star Ocean 1 remake good?
It replaces SO1's battle system and travel method with SO2's, SO2 fans and most people in general would probably prefer it
I loved snes SO1's environments so replacing that with walking on a world map felt like a slap in the face, and I liked the battle system for at least being something unique even if it's incredibly clunky and archaic.
>Someone else prefers SNES so1
Kiss me you fool
So why people exploded with anger over the "lol, you guys are from a videogame!"
>going to get to hear Mission to Deep Space again
For me, it's Silent the universe.
God damn I can hear it.
>not Rena's musicbox version
Dude, think of the TRAGEDY and DRAMA
Yeah no, I just wanna explore.
But I like KA.MI.KA.ZE, too.
If they redid the OST like with Tactics Ogre it'd be the cherry on top here
I cried so many times on twitter. But finally we‘ll get this game. I‘m happy!
>Soundtrack
>Some shitty acrylics
>An art book that's only 40 pages
That'll be $130 extra + tax goy
It's shitty but my money is no longer my own.
rewatching the trailer and noticed welch shown along with the playable characters' portraits
why call it second story R if it's actually second evolution R
Welch was the only good thing about Second Evolution so it's good that they kept her. But they also dropped the animated cutscenes from SE, you can see they're using the original story presentation from SS. Maybe that's why?
Welch doesn't have to play by the rules.
Think of the cute space elf
Cute.
do i have to play these in order? ive never played one before
They're all self-contained, though they tend to reference previous games
4 in particular does this as it was that director's last game so I'd recommend playing 1-3 before it, but the rest you can do in whatever order you like
Oh and blue sphere is a direct sequel to 2 I guess, but it's on a different planet from 2 and there's not much connecting it beyond implied relationships so you could still play it before 2 and not feel lost if you wanted
I think there seems to be a stylistic mismatch, wish they just went full on with the 2d including backgrounds. But I can't help but buy Star Ocean games no matter how shitty they are, it's a problem.
Claude or Rena?
Rewho?
Now let's be fair, with the new systems she's probably going to have more utility than being the healer you put on autopilot for 99% of the game.
At least, I hope so.
She was intended to be okay at magic damage and physical attacks too (remember she boasts about using a knuckle), but obviously this fell flat on its face.
take that back
Claude although Rena has the better unique character.
I'm a male so I play the male character.
Claude if you want the more chad overworld sprite. Rena if you want the better character (Dias >> Leon. but maybe this new version will make casters better).
>Didn't buy SO6 because I hated the artist and character style
>Same fricking artist
frick this gay earth
>People want a Blue Sphere remake
Hopefully they fix the stupid skill system that makes it possible to permanently brick your characters.
I don't think the trailer shows any attacks against aerial enemies, I want to know that they got rid of Second Evolution's shitty poke attack and put the jumping attack back in.
Item creation morphing too.
>SO4 shits the bed when it was announced as a Xbox 360 exclusive for whatever reason
>"Quick, make a remaster of SO2."
>SO6 shits the bed by being shit
>"Quick, make a remake of SO2."
So what happens if SO8 is also garbage? SO2 Remake Remake?
>>SO6 shits the bed by being shit
Anime remake when?
SO6 is too short imo
>SO6 is too short
What? It's like twice as long as SO2 is.
I'd be satisfied if they just finished it. First half of the game is way less interesting than the second, which the anime got canceled before covering.
Just do the cave of trials before fighting him to finish off the game, his limitless version isn't THAT hard.
If Legend of Mana can get an anime then I'm sure we can get another Star Ocean 2 anime
I want to see people get super BTFO by removing the limiter, preferably by mistake and not realizing they've even done it.
he's fricking ridiculous without the limiter. I can't even imagine beating him without Bloody Armor.
That'd be frickin' funny.
You almost have to level up and complete the heraldric dungeon to beat unlimited indy, and that dungeon makes you put on your big boy pants.
I absolutely love the 2D hd stuff. Im going to get this day 1
I mean the ending still sucks but the amount of jobs and creation elements always keep me coming back. Looking forward to iron chef quest
What if they removed the 8 person party limit and you can now get everyone on one playthrough?
They massacred my girl
Damn I hate they dont start with so1
>Come to terms with the fact they abandoned old Star Ocean after years of the not releasing second evolution on Switch
>See this trailer
>Oh cool finally they ported it
>Mfw i realize they actually fricking remade it
>$200 shitty collector's edition sold out immediately
holy YIKES, gaymers
conSOOMers
So good
I could do without the weird effects but it honestly looks pretty good
Where are the BALLS? i want to see what they have done with the combat BALLS
>flip at the first frame
HOLY BASED
I hope they keep the skills all RNG
I forgot that there was a skill meant to make the character attempt to run around the enemy for a back attack.
I never used it because your character moved at the same normal move speed when trying to do it making it pretty useless, but it's clearly updated to do what its name implies, to quickly flip around the enemy.
In a perfect world, Tri-Ace would live by doing remakes of 2/3 over and over again. Most of the other games are pretty mediocre in comparison.
Also, people saying SO6 is good. Nah, you’re just desperate for new games and are eating mediocre shit.
You're an idiot
You’re moronic and like mediocre garbage
>Wants endless remakes rather than an attempt no matter how shit for a new game
>Calls others moronic
Look in the mirror bud.
Endless remakes instead of a 2/10 like SO5 or 5/10 like SO1, SO4 and SO6 are better yes.
Sorry for your terminal moronation
I’m surprised you can even read or speak if you’re this moronic. Get better standards if you honestly believe SO1/SO4/SO6 deserve a better score than a 5/10.
Play other series, actuall good ones.
>actuall
You can't even spell.
Semantics won’t make you less moronic. Especially if you enjoy SO1/SO4/SO5/SO6 non-ironically.
SO1 > SO2 > SO6 > SO3
Keep coping
Don’t need to, you already dug your hole. SO fans only pretend to care about SO1 because they’re too contrarians to admit Tales of Phantasia was a much better game.
>Dude just infinitely remake the same two games like a bunch of idiots
SO6 is good you overbearing gay.
Kill Lymle and improve the hideous dead doll faces of the characters and SO4 is an excellent game now
Just get rid of the entire earth arc and Star Ocean 4 will be better.
2 > 3 > 6 > 1 > 4 > 5
Stay mad
Accurate, though position of 6 and 1 is debatable. Maybe roughly equal.
sex with rena
Falling in love with Rena
Getting married to Rena
Lovey-dovey sex in missionary position with Rena
Taking care of children with Rena
Growing old with Rena
Don’t need too, you just proved again that 2 and 3 are the only good ones. Everything else is barely passable or straight bad (SO5).
6 has good aspects but it could have been incredible with some more polish. The battle system has a nice base, but not enough in it. Seriously, just bigger movesets would do a lot for the game, some characters can't even fill their combo trees out.
SO2 is only good for the PA system
>Opera is supposed to be fricking sexy
>Remake artist makes her look like a plain jane
you can't make this shit up
Okay troony
Bro have you seen her in the new art? She looks like she just woke up and hasn't had time to put her makeup on
4>1>3>>>>>2
I like the guys in the new art but the girls other than Celine look off
Anamnesis was better for them
The girls look good in Anamnesis but Dias and Ashton look awful.
>New 2023 version unironically mogs them all
Holy shit nostalgiagays absolutely BTFO
Funny how Akiman was the only one who realizes that Rena's supposed to be a fistfighter mage girl
Can't blame them.
The devs forgot she was supposed to be a knuckle mage five minutes after the intro too.
I hope the remake gives her more of a proper mixed damage role this time around of just being a healbot.
Precis and Rena's faces look fricking weird but otherwise the remake art looks great.
I only just now realised that Second Evolution covered up Celine's thighs.
PS1 bros, we got robbed
How are they still alive? I wonder if they even tried for the english VAs.
Its harder to do that nowadays because back then the actors were often non union and sometimes literal randos. Finding them if they've been out of the industry is a challenge, then they have to even want to take the new gig when they may have an entirely different career, and if they do want it you have to hook them up with the union or you'll get in trouble if other union actors are part of the same project.
Of course not. No one gives a frick about some shitty dub.
>shitty dub.
Take it back.
>no ps1 eng voices
Mods will save us.
HERE'S MR ENEMY~
CRAWD HAS ADVANCED FORWARD
POISON-POISON-POISON PILLS
MMMIIRRROORRRRR SLLLIICCCEEEEE *clink* *clink*
It was shit, but it was good shit.
TEAR INTO PIECES
That's an interesting feature. Which VAs did Anamnesis use?
Anamnesis had the PSP cast
Anamnesis also let you choose between the original and the psp remake voices
Where did this come from? It's not on SE's official site.
Was always inferior to the tales of series
Star ocean was always better than Tales
Nobody cares about Star Ocean outside of SO2, just fujoshis and incels.
>fujoshis
So just like Tales
Oh wait at least SO isn't filled with Fujos lel
star ocean 2 specifically is better than most of the Tales series though.
Definitely better than any 2d tales and symphonia even though I love symphonia.
most of 2d tales is better than most of 3d tales though.....
I hate they wont remake 1 when so2 is a straight sequel of it
They already did remake 1. Unlike Second Evolution, First Departure was a full remake.
Still japan only and too fricking slow to play
>First Departure
>japan only
Reminder that you are playing the game the wrong way if you don't ignore Rena whenever you can in favor of all the other girls when you choose Claude as your protagonist.
The other girls other than Rena look like shit in the remake art why bother
Dias/Opera/Precis/Chisato
Burn it all
>The entire original soundtrack has been rearranged by its original composer, Motoi Sakuraba, for a much richer, fuller sound. Not only that, but he's composed entirely new music for certain parts of the story, including some boss battles. Some tracks have even been recorded live with a full band!
LET'S FRICKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Is it true that this game final boss is harder than the normal Tri Ace superboss, The Ethereal Queen?
If you do a sidequest to power him up, yes. The final step of that sidequest requires you to leave the final dungeon right before fighting him, though.
Why did Gabriel put a limiter on himself again? Seems pretty stupid thing to do for big baddie.
Is the final boss name supposed to be Indalecio or Gabriel? Gabriel is kinda generic tho.
Gabriel. The PSX localisation censored all the references to Christianity.
>what do we think?
looks fricking turbobased. Cannot wait. A top 10 RPG of all time.
>look at a video of the limiter removed became it's been years
>fight starts
>Claude goes "Oh, it's just them"
kek
Anamnesis assets were so good. A mod to SO4 for the characters would be good.
This is how I wish the portraits looked
Same
I still don't understand how they went from this to SO6's models. Were Anamnesis' outsourced to a better studio or something?
>2DHD
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You know what’s hilarious? A low budget remake will still be better than modern Final Fantasy.
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shut up
YWNBAW
Or White
ff homosexual
Im not a fan of 2DHD, but i am 100% okay with this. Lets face it, theyre never going to do a 10 year long production remake with the latest graphics FF7R style. Its either this or nothing at all, and I am more than happy with this.
Also as much as some people are shitting on this 2d sprites on 3d backgrounds thing, the original game did this too, so it is very much keeping with the original games aesthetic.
the inglorious shit eater
Yes, this is totally moronic. But the sad truth is that it's better than any alternative they would likely have implemented. After 100 focus groups repeating "we want old style RPGs", SE simply gave up, and this is the result. This is what gets the MOST fans to like it at any given time. And it's a fricking topic worth a nobel in psychology.
The shit eater
If they had made 3d models for the characters you'd call it an abomination. That game doesn't use pixel art to create the environment, it relies on the player's imagination much more, which allows it to be far more easily remade compared to something like SO2
Is this the series' last hurrah?
I hope so if they're going to keep this shitty artist from SO6, let it die
Get the Langrisser mobage artist
It says a lot that they've made six mainline games from late on the snes all the way to now, and the biggest news in the series history is a remake of a remaster of a remaster of a ps1 game.
Yeah I want this game, but if this is the only thing that really gets people excited then I don't see much hope for the series future.
Not that I am complaining as a SO fan but I am amazed about how this series seems to get continuously underwhelming sales yet is never dropped. Someone high up in the decision making body must really like this series as a passion project.
It’s always been the frick you series to tales of. And even SO5 is better than the worst of the Tales of games.
2.5d all game instead of 3D? Hmmmmmmm
Rumor has it that squenix pushed tri-ace to work on this the MOMENT SO6 went gold, for reasons threefold:
>1: new product because SO6 was not drawing the hype they wanted
reasonable, normal thing
>2: more HD2D engine work to push it
also makes sense, octopath 2 has just finished, triangle strategy is getting it's DLC, so the most experienced devs with it were free and have contributed with assistance.
>3: Suikoden 1&2 remake
Apparently squenix sees SO as a competitor in the cult indie JRPG market, so they pushed second evolution/story R for sooner release to compete with suikoden 1&2 remaster (as it's done in konami's new proprietary not HD2D HD2D engine).
I'm happy either way, I can now have all star ocean games to date playable, locally downloaded on my PS5. Pretty soon I'd bet my PC too (since SSR is on PC). Very happy man, I am.
Now the suikoden remaster needs to come out, and I'll be set for life. This year has been fricking GOLD for JRPGs.
Like the other remakes, Tri-Ace didn't develop this. This one's by Gemdrops.
This is the other than the PSP remake of SO which got ported, this is the 2nd remake the series ever had. Second evolution was just an enchanced port.
Can you play SO5 on PS5?
It’s been literally decades since I played this, since I only ever played it on the PS1 my cousin had and he took it with him when he moved out. Between this and Mario RPG, I’ve got a couple classics I get to enjoy all over again.
Considering people thought Mario RPG would never get ported/remade due to issues with licensing and copyright and all that, what are the odds for a remake of Chrono Trigger?
Rena is much more thick than she was in the OG and the psp port.
>Star Ocean Hard R
Uhhh Squeenix?!?
Chrono Trigger will probably be a remake like this as well
I think I'd take a Terranigma first.
Certainly. Actually now that I think about it, you could easily turn Chrono trigger into an ARPG since it only limited you to three party members anyway.
As for Illusion of Gaia, Soul Blazer and Terranigma, I’m not sure how much Square cares about them or how big the fan base is.
Unless Actraiser remake did particularly well, that series is even more dead than SO. Heck they never even gave them proper ports.
Hopefully they port SO3 and release SO5 on steam.
>party members follow you in field
>inactive party members can contribute
I like it.
It’s a true remake after all.
>Main 4 active party members die in battle
>Game over
Kek
>over a dozen potential allies
Hang on. Did they add new characters?
The original game always had 12 potential party members, though some are exclusive to Claude or Rena. Later remakes added Welsh as a playable character.
If they did they would've shown it as a hard sell.
When they added Welsh in the PSP enchanced port, you had 13 characters.
Welsh was character 13, so I doubt it.
SObros… how do I stop seething over 3’s plot twist?
You can't. They thought it was clever but they ruined the whole series with that typical early 2000s homosexualry.
By using your brain and actually thinking about it for longer than 2 seconds.
assume it noncanon and Welsh is just a schizo within the plot of 2 and any mentions or nods to the twist are just her not taking her meds.
Plot twist is irrelevant in the end because the game shows the universe can still exist without the 4-D. So nothing changed. And it’s not an “MMO” either btw.
4-D might as well be a simulation of a higher dimension as well, that’s the whole point of the twist. Saying everybody is a MMO or game is bullcrap.
It's not so bad, the 4D created the universe and could manipulate it, but they didn't control the minds of the people. In fact that's the actual twist. The 4D could not control the universe they created, so they wanted to reset it. Ironically the people in SO3 have more free will than we do in OUR deterministic universe where information is conserved
3's ending was retconned out of existence in Anamnesis by having Fayt and his party get summoned by Evelysse in the setting of Anamnesis just before they would have tried to visit the Moonbase in SO3.
I will only accept remastered Sakuraba classics in the remake.
So long as they keep the above and the extensive skill system where you can cook comfy food just before you get fricking trounced by Iseria Queen, I'll be fine.
It looks fricking awful. I fricking hate this trend of taking sprites and throwing them into unity and making a weird ass mesh of flat sprites running around a 3D world with particle effects out the ass.
The 3d bakground and bloom kill it for me. They should have just went with the Saga 3 remaster aesthetic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K7SrmjbT_U
>They should have remade a PSX game with pre-rendered graphics in SNES FF 2D instead
Are you moronic?
>SNES FF 2D
Look again.
You realise that Scarlet Grace Ambitions is not Romancing Saga 3 which is the one you named?
So will guys choose Rena or Claude? Dias and Leon are possibly no longer route locked. Hopefully Ashton doesn’t lock us out of Opera. Also I’m digging how Rena looks.
If Dias isn't route-locked then there is now zero reason to play as Rena
Claude. My uncle who works at Gemdrops told me you get to keep the Phase Gun and upgrade it later.
Claude gets extra story, and Rena pretty much gets nothing.
I usually pick claude because I don't want to be in control of the character that is the healbot for the entire game, even if she's got her own unique scenes.
But I *want* to pick rena, and from previous posts there's a strong possibility that she's going to be a lot better in the remake.
With Rena you get the eternal sphere precursor iirc, and you can just switch to controlling another character in battle anyway.
Rena is so hungry for Claude's wiener.
You can get it in Claude's scenario too there is just an extra step or 2 involved since you have play through the tourney. On the other hand Rena is cute and magic might be useable against bosses.
Does the SO1 remake run well on Switch?
Since it doesn't have an official PC port, and the Switch version seems to go on pretty frequent sales for just $8.
It runs well on both switch and PS4.
ok but is the rena pee thing censored?
Does she pee herself in the original?
What?
... I admit I haven't played the game in probably fifteen years, but, what?
What version of 1 and 2 should I play?
>1
Check out the SNES version and the PSP(the switch and PS4 use this version for the port) version and see which one suits your tastes more.
>SO2
How much do you like Welch and anime cutscenes?
>Look up Star ocean 2 from PS1 not PSP just to make sure if my memory is working correctly about the backgrounds always being 3d looking
>They were
It 3d backgrounds and towns were common of games of the PS1 era. Thousand Arms comes to mind as well. All this remake did was HD them. The more important thing is changes to the combat since mages had limited use.
This is cool and all but I bet the Noel Chandler sprite is still fricked up.
Noel is the character you use when you passed on Chisato for some reason.
I never played a star ocean game but this and 1 look cool. I bought First departure R on switch a while back but haven't touched it yet. What would I be in for when I do start the switch port? Are othe rgames in the series worth looking into?
It's pretty alright.
Make sure to level the blacksmithing and customization skills.
You are in for three fighters and maybe one magic user(probably the healbot) for every fight past a certain point of the game.
>what do we think?
that based on what we saw everyone should play the original or psp game, which both have substantially better spritework.
So is POISON PILLS getting redubbed?
If they had hd sprites instead then it wouldn't clash so much with the backgrounds but SE(and the developers they hire) sometimes makes the HD sprites look bad anyways so I dunno if they should make the sprites HD.
>OH NO ITS 2D SPRITES IN A 3D ENVIRONMENT THIS IS AN UNTHINKABLE ABOMINATIN IT LOOKS UGLY AND SOULLESS UNLIKE THE ORIGINA-
it still matched the environment far better than the new ones.
This Black person blind
you're just a zoomer who doesn't know how it looked like on CRT, the new one looks exactly how you see it
Go blind on your shitty CRT then.
Low res for low res vs low res with super high res backgrounds and sprites blown up well beyond their intended resolution
This shit was popular among japanese rpg devs at the time. Just look at Thousand Arms:
Breath of Fire IV is one of the best looking JRPGs and it was Sprites on 3D environments, shame it fricking sucked.
That's because of the detail they used on both the sprites and backgrounds. Can't say the same for Star Ocean 2 even for the PS1 version.
>Shame it fricking sucked
It was just a watered down BoF3 with a worse training system. It's just that BoF3 was peak rather than BoF4 being bad.
Fricking gaming is DIRE. There are some good games that come out, I'm not going to be a contrarian, but holy frick.
Is there anything left that hasn't been remade and repackaged to sell to zoomers because most new shit is AIDS? Fricking Mario RPG and this on the same fricking day. How many remakes are we on this year? Over the last 2 years?
they know they can't create new kino, millennials knew how good it was before and won't accept the slop they churn out nowadays. If you mix the slop with nostalgiabait you can milk past IPs until they are dead and hated though.
That said this new SO2 looks decent so far.
Don't get me wrong; if a remake or remaster isn't shit I'll play it. Tactics Ogre is a good example; it was a better experience than the original AND the PSP version.
Would I rather have that than new quality tactics IPs? Of course not, but I won't get that so I have to take what I can get.
You should instead demand a March of the Black Queen port or remake instead of garbling down Tactics Ogre again and again.
Or any fricking Ogre Battle that isn't fricking tactics or its spinoff.
It says a lot that this and mario rpg remake are probably what got the most people excited.
I admit I've got a lot of nostalgia for them, that said, they really just don't make them like they used to anymore.
Is that 2D sprites on a 3D background?
AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE SAVE ME FRONT MISSION MAN I'M GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAANE
Hey look at that, sprites that are trying to emulate late psx era sprites and not trying to emulate final fantasy fricking 1 huh? Who would have known that LOOKS BETTER
Frick you pixel squenix homosexuals, complete morons
If you think SO2 looks like FF1 sprites you're brain-damaged.
>If you think SO2 looks like FF1 sprites you're brain-damaged.
The only brain damaged one here is you anon, the sprites look like dogshit. They are not equivalent to any good snes spritework, they are equivalent to bad snes spritework or good nes spritework. They are LITERALLY octopath sprites, the same team, the same shit. And octopath sprites for their characters was always early ff tier dogshit, which were always the worst amongst the variety of spritework available. Get fricked, suikoden sprites are the bare minimum that is acceptable, not these dogshit "teehee our characters are chibi and use 14 pixels total" squenix horseshit
>suikoden sprites are the bare minimum that is acceptable
Suikoden and Konami's PSX output in general was literally some of the best sprite work the entire industry had to offer at a time when sprite work was most of the industry's output. That you don't understand this and expect every game to adhere to its quality shows how ridiculously ignorant you are.
Anon you don't know what Final Fantasy 1 looks like
Not going to lie and maybe it's because I played suikoden I and II not that long ago(less than 10 years) but I'm looking more foward to this than the remasters/port/remakes whatever they are.
Makes sense, the remasters looked like shit, the team they had in charge was obviously focused more on just slapping shiny new effects everywhere than actual coherent design so a bunch of backgrounds had newly added shadows and lights all coming from different directions and fricked up perspective. Eiyuuden looks a lot better by comparison.
I wasn't really thinking of graphics to be honest. I think I'm just looking forward to a new cast of characters and maybe a few gameplay changes.
>yet another remake slop
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn
too much bloom on the spites, I hate it
If you don't like the new art, they will probably allow you to change to the old psp style anyway. Just like the port of SO1.
I didn't see any option for that but they do have the option of not showing any art at all according to the trailer. Just like the old PS1 version.
SO2 was peak 90s jrpg
he never specified the nes version
Well that's his fault then
it's your fault for assuming.
There morons you fin on -v- indeed.
Konami was really god tier in the PSX era.
Never played a single game in this series, but this looks really good. Highly considering picking it up.