I've asked this question before and the answer I got was "CS is an old game, and outside of tournaments there's no more discussion to be had".
But even when cs has big tournaments I never see any threads following them? Like seriously I checked /vg/, Ganker and Ganker and none of them have cs generals.
the reviewbombing worked lmao. gotta love being part of this movement. it's only a matter of time until nobody touches this shit on Gamepass too. just look at the all the bad reviews on Xbox. they're so done for.
Still playing daily. It's a long game. It's a good game. It's fun to replay. Mods are growing. Deal with it.
So how come on Twitch, Cyberpunk has 10 times as many viewers? It stands to reason that this ratio would be somewhat perserved between the two platforms. Explain that.
Because cyberpunk is an action game which fulfill the zoomer addiction on twitch more than bg3 ever could. People who enjoy bg3 play for themselves or with a few friends, not to entertain kids on twitch.
Everyone got BG3 on steam since it was available there first for a couple years in EA. Lots of people got Cyberpunk on consoles and GOG. You’re seeing a mere fraction of the cyberpunk player base vs 80+% of the BG3 player base. BG3 isn’t really popular on the PS5. It’s currently 14th behind Cyberpunk around gameslike RE4, Fall Guys, Saint Row, are closer in popularity.
>So how come on Twitch, Cyberpunk has 10 times as many viewers
because most big streamer playing this kind of games are already done with the game and are now playing CyberPunk2077.
It is a really well crafted, engaging game that offers a huge amount of player choice to multiple very different playstyles.
The game makes the player character the centre of the story (unlike cyberpunk) and his decisions are what drives the plot.
The game has a multitude of hand-crafted environments, with diverse, hand crafted encounters. Even if they are on the easy side, it offers enough variety that it doesn't get boring and samey - or not as fast (unlike owlcat's games).
NPCs have their own stories throughout the game which intertwine with the player's, and the player has the ability to put them on his preferred track, ignore them completely or even kill them outright. (Unlike Starfield).
The tone is more or less consistent, and while the story is mediocre, there are a few genuinely well presented epic scenes which aren't undercut by random lolrandumb idiocy seconds later (unlike DivOS 1-2).
But you probablyu don't care about any of that, you just want to sheethe about the bearfricking.
So... every competent cRPG ever did the same thing. You are praising BG3 for things that were standard for 20 years.
How many cRPGs have you played in your life if BG3 blows your mind so hard?
I already listed recent RPGs in my post that didn't do the "same thing". In fact, actually only a precious few games ever did so well with them across the board as BG3 have.
If this would have been the industry standard 'for the past 20 years' I would be a happy man but it isn't. And I have played most of what the genre has to offer.
The only things that come to mind that might surpass BG3 on these grounds are:
- Solasta for the 3 dimensional turn based tactical scene (but it is barely an RPG)
- Harebrained's Shadowrun games (not the first one, but Dragonfall and Hong Kong) for reactivity and the ability to use your PCs backgrouds to solve problems through dialogue. (but its combat is a lot more simplified)
- Some Neverwinter Nights player made modules for the same thing (but they are still RTWP and you have no real party in them)
- Maybe Wasteland 3 for the worldbuilding and story aspect (but its combat system is an absolute shitshow and you don't really have living party members)
But hey anon, if you are so chock full of RPG titles that do everything as well and better as BG3 from the past 20 years, then why don't you share some?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Atom RPG
Gamedec
Caves of Lore
Troubleshooter
Vagrus
Age of Decadence
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Atom RPG
Shitty translation, zero polish. It can be fun, but unless you play one of the few meta builds it's a horrendous experience. The many options in its character creation screen are mostly just a trap. >Gamedec
Apples and oranges. No combat system and no character creation. It's okay with what it does but it needs to pul its had out its own ass, because it's not as special as it thinks it is. >Caves of lore
Have not heard of this one, I might check it out. >Troubleshooter
U wot m8? I played like 20 hours of it and was bored out of my mind. Maybe it gets fun 50 hours in or if you are in it for the best animu waifu or something. >Vagrus
Death spiral simulator where you need meta knowledge about the 'correct' way to play the game to progress. Also more of a caravan simulator than an RPG. >Age of Decadence
I really like this one, but come on. It is painfully unfinished, and they went full in on a particular type of build, everything else is an afterthought at best and unplayable at worst.
8 months ago
Anonymous
tl;dr
Keep seething
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Oh no, someone actually knows about the games on this 'basic b***h indie darlings - RPG edition' list I found and now I have no answers.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>I really like this one, but come on. It is painfully unfinished, and they went full in on a particular type of build, everything else is an afterthought at best and unplayable at worst.
Not him but I played it as a combat guy (Mercenary I think it was called), a Merchant, and a Loremaster
I guess you mean that only the latter gets to know all the intricacies of the setting? That's a great feature which I like very much. There was plenty of content anyway for the other types
8 months ago
Anonymous
Not sure how much has been added, but when I played it after release you could make characters that were unable to get out of the tutorial.
But it isn't just that, everything in the game felt really empty. It's as if they made the questlines, the npcs and the checks around a speech focused character and then ran out of steam. The game has exceptionally strong bones but there is almost no meat on them. It doesn't help that the combat system is absolute trash as well.
I started out as a combat character, gave up after the first town then rerolled as a shady thief type of guy, got to about halfway along and decided that the emptiness just ruins all immersion.
And I was really hyped for that game. Maybe I should go back and see if someone made a good mod or something for it.
Can you frickers shut the frick up with these fricking lies
8 months ago
Anonymous
>swen lies his ass off about a million features literally weeks before release >people bring it up in criticism >bro they frontloaded the game so it’s good shut up virgin!
8 months ago
Anonymous
post proof homosexual. none of this shit is true. and on the off chance that it were true, why isn't anyone else making a big deal out of it besides you cowards?
You said the same for ME trilogy, it's still true
Mass Effect fricking sucks. Shut the frick up.
8 months ago
Anonymous
You said the same for ME trilogy, it's still true
8 months ago
Anonymous
Mass effect is still fricking shit, lmao
Are you going to defend rgb ending and starchildren being destroyed by magical mcguffin now?
Fricking moron slop eater.
End yourself.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Are you going to defend rgb ending
yeah that’s so unlike BG3 where you pick one of 2 endings right at the end, instead of one of 3
8 months ago
Anonymous
Your dishonesty is astonishing. But I wont expect anything better from a colossal moron which eats up rgb shit and asks for more.
Heres truth: no matter how hard you seethe and cope me will forever remain shit which was destroyed by rgb ending. Bioware is a walking corpse and its only a time before it will be put to death by their ea handlers.
Now stop soiling good and immersive games with your wretched schizo presence.
8 months ago
Anonymous
post proof homosexual. none of this shit is true. and on the off chance that it were true, why isn't anyone else making a big deal out of it besides you cowards?
[...]
Mass Effect fricking sucks. Shut the frick up.
You'll be saying the same for BG3 in a few years.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Are you fricking moronic? What kind of logic is that? I shat on rgb ending the very day I saw it during me3 release. And I praise bg3 ending the very day I saw it on bg3 release.
One is a great game which will set precedent fo at lease a decade.
Other is an utter failure which destroyed whole franchise and a company behind it.
Seethe.
8 months ago
Anonymous
like I said, you said the same for ME Trilogy and then backpedaled through out the years, and you will do the same for BG3.
BG3 never needed mods. They simply add to the experience. It's perfect as it is. And by mod quality alone? Come on. Not even Skyrim can compete with BG3 lmao.
Skyrim is completely different game to bg3
You mod skyrim to be coom simulator in vr because it is not a good game
You play bg3 to play a game because its a good game
post proof homosexual. none of this shit is true. and on the off chance that it were true, why isn't anyone else making a big deal out of it besides you cowards?
[...]
Mass Effect fricking sucks. Shut the frick up.
>why isn't anyone else making a big deal out of it besides you cowards?
because BG3 got frontloaded this overhyped so it’s not “cool” to shit on it even though it’s blatantly unfinished and the devs lied about a bunch of things
>New game on the same engine as some of the most modded game's in the history of gaming has more mods than other game without it.
How could this happen?
skyrim has millions of mods and only one of them turns it into a good game - Enderal
The overwhelming majority of gamers on earth simultaneously decided to switch from Steam to game pass when Starfield released. It actually had and still has millions of players. It's called synchronicity, look it up.
Star Field is on bloody gamepass
still has dropped 75% of its week 1 userbase on steam. gotta assume gamepass in the same. it’s over for starflop
ITS ON GAMEPASS FRICKER ITS MUCH CHEAPER THERE
No wonder the publishers dislike GamePass.
>Pay $10 instead of $60
Yeah, I am thinking they're done in 4 years.
DON'T WORRY
IS THE REALSE OF THE dlc STILL NO ONE IS PLAYING IT.
after they will end their movie there is nothing else to do in cybertroony and people will return
>that many people playing cs go
>never see any threads on Ganker about it
Its mostly latin american third wolders.
well since 3/4 of european players died in bakhmut that would be correct
Just like Ganker, then.
Too busy actually playing the game
I've asked this question before and the answer I got was "CS is an old game, and outside of tournaments there's no more discussion to be had".
I knew those todd apologists were lying about flopfield with their fake million players
what is there to talk about cs:go? you run around the same rotation of maps and shoot
But even when cs has big tournaments I never see any threads following them? Like seriously I checked /vg/, Ganker and Ganker and none of them have cs generals.
the reviewbombing worked lmao. gotta love being part of this movement. it's only a matter of time until nobody touches this shit on Gamepass too. just look at the all the bad reviews on Xbox. they're so done for.
Starfieldbros I feel so small... Look at that list, I just know the players of all those other games hate our game and hate us...
BUY THE FRICKING GAME
If Counter Strike is so good how come they haven't made CS2 ? Checkmate Volvotards...
Give it 12 hours
I refuse to believe that so many people are playing BG3. These numbers must be inflated, yeah?
it's universally loved. it's impossible to explain to midwits. but it's a lot like how Trump is still number fricking one.
So how come on Twitch, Cyberpunk has 10 times as many viewers? It stands to reason that this ratio would be somewhat perserved between the two platforms. Explain that.
BG3 is a game that you PLAY. Cyberpunk is a game that you WATCH. it's really that simple
You've never played Cyberpunk have you?
Because cyberpunk is an action game which fulfill the zoomer addiction on twitch more than bg3 ever could. People who enjoy bg3 play for themselves or with a few friends, not to entertain kids on twitch.
Everyone got BG3 on steam since it was available there first for a couple years in EA. Lots of people got Cyberpunk on consoles and GOG. You’re seeing a mere fraction of the cyberpunk player base vs 80+% of the BG3 player base. BG3 isn’t really popular on the PS5. It’s currently 14th behind Cyberpunk around gameslike RE4, Fall Guys, Saint Row, are closer in popularity.
>So how come on Twitch, Cyberpunk has 10 times as many viewers
because most big streamer playing this kind of games are already done with the game and are now playing CyberPunk2077.
>it's impossible to explain to midwits
>It's good!
>Why?
>B-because it is!
>Why?
>Because praise Swen!
You gays are not even trying.
It is a really well crafted, engaging game that offers a huge amount of player choice to multiple very different playstyles.
The game makes the player character the centre of the story (unlike cyberpunk) and his decisions are what drives the plot.
The game has a multitude of hand-crafted environments, with diverse, hand crafted encounters. Even if they are on the easy side, it offers enough variety that it doesn't get boring and samey - or not as fast (unlike owlcat's games).
NPCs have their own stories throughout the game which intertwine with the player's, and the player has the ability to put them on his preferred track, ignore them completely or even kill them outright. (Unlike Starfield).
The tone is more or less consistent, and while the story is mediocre, there are a few genuinely well presented epic scenes which aren't undercut by random lolrandumb idiocy seconds later (unlike DivOS 1-2).
But you probablyu don't care about any of that, you just want to sheethe about the bearfricking.
So... every competent cRPG ever did the same thing. You are praising BG3 for things that were standard for 20 years.
How many cRPGs have you played in your life if BG3 blows your mind so hard?
I already listed recent RPGs in my post that didn't do the "same thing". In fact, actually only a precious few games ever did so well with them across the board as BG3 have.
If this would have been the industry standard 'for the past 20 years' I would be a happy man but it isn't. And I have played most of what the genre has to offer.
The only things that come to mind that might surpass BG3 on these grounds are:
- Solasta for the 3 dimensional turn based tactical scene (but it is barely an RPG)
- Harebrained's Shadowrun games (not the first one, but Dragonfall and Hong Kong) for reactivity and the ability to use your PCs backgrouds to solve problems through dialogue. (but its combat is a lot more simplified)
- Some Neverwinter Nights player made modules for the same thing (but they are still RTWP and you have no real party in them)
- Maybe Wasteland 3 for the worldbuilding and story aspect (but its combat system is an absolute shitshow and you don't really have living party members)
But hey anon, if you are so chock full of RPG titles that do everything as well and better as BG3 from the past 20 years, then why don't you share some?
Atom RPG
Gamedec
Caves of Lore
Troubleshooter
Vagrus
Age of Decadence
>Atom RPG
Shitty translation, zero polish. It can be fun, but unless you play one of the few meta builds it's a horrendous experience. The many options in its character creation screen are mostly just a trap.
>Gamedec
Apples and oranges. No combat system and no character creation. It's okay with what it does but it needs to pul its had out its own ass, because it's not as special as it thinks it is.
>Caves of lore
Have not heard of this one, I might check it out.
>Troubleshooter
U wot m8? I played like 20 hours of it and was bored out of my mind. Maybe it gets fun 50 hours in or if you are in it for the best animu waifu or something.
>Vagrus
Death spiral simulator where you need meta knowledge about the 'correct' way to play the game to progress. Also more of a caravan simulator than an RPG.
>Age of Decadence
I really like this one, but come on. It is painfully unfinished, and they went full in on a particular type of build, everything else is an afterthought at best and unplayable at worst.
tl;dr
Keep seething
>Oh no, someone actually knows about the games on this 'basic b***h indie darlings - RPG edition' list I found and now I have no answers.
>I really like this one, but come on. It is painfully unfinished, and they went full in on a particular type of build, everything else is an afterthought at best and unplayable at worst.
Not him but I played it as a combat guy (Mercenary I think it was called), a Merchant, and a Loremaster
I guess you mean that only the latter gets to know all the intricacies of the setting? That's a great feature which I like very much. There was plenty of content anyway for the other types
Not sure how much has been added, but when I played it after release you could make characters that were unable to get out of the tutorial.
But it isn't just that, everything in the game felt really empty. It's as if they made the questlines, the npcs and the checks around a speech focused character and then ran out of steam. The game has exceptionally strong bones but there is almost no meat on them. It doesn't help that the combat system is absolute trash as well.
I started out as a combat character, gave up after the first town then rerolled as a shady thief type of guy, got to about halfway along and decided that the emptiness just ruins all immersion.
And I was really hyped for that game. Maybe I should go back and see if someone made a good mod or something for it.
Still playing daily. It's a long game. It's a good game. It's fun to replay. Mods are growing. Deal with it.
Starfield already has more mods than BG3 and gets more mods made for if every day
skyrim has millions of mods and only one of them turns it into a good game - Enderal
What is there to fix with BG3.
they only added 2 of the 17,000 endings they promised, so quite a lot
Can you frickers shut the frick up with these fricking lies
>swen lies his ass off about a million features literally weeks before release
>people bring it up in criticism
>bro they frontloaded the game so it’s good shut up virgin!
post proof homosexual. none of this shit is true. and on the off chance that it were true, why isn't anyone else making a big deal out of it besides you cowards?
Mass Effect fricking sucks. Shut the frick up.
You said the same for ME trilogy, it's still true
Mass effect is still fricking shit, lmao
Are you going to defend rgb ending and starchildren being destroyed by magical mcguffin now?
Fricking moron slop eater.
End yourself.
>Are you going to defend rgb ending
yeah that’s so unlike BG3 where you pick one of 2 endings right at the end, instead of one of 3
Your dishonesty is astonishing. But I wont expect anything better from a colossal moron which eats up rgb shit and asks for more.
Heres truth: no matter how hard you seethe and cope me will forever remain shit which was destroyed by rgb ending. Bioware is a walking corpse and its only a time before it will be put to death by their ea handlers.
Now stop soiling good and immersive games with your wretched schizo presence.
You'll be saying the same for BG3 in a few years.
Are you fricking moronic? What kind of logic is that? I shat on rgb ending the very day I saw it during me3 release. And I praise bg3 ending the very day I saw it on bg3 release.
One is a great game which will set precedent fo at lease a decade.
Other is an utter failure which destroyed whole franchise and a company behind it.
Seethe.
like I said, you said the same for ME Trilogy and then backpedaled through out the years, and you will do the same for BG3.
the writing, gameplay and animations.
BG3 never needed mods. They simply add to the experience. It's perfect as it is. And by mod quality alone? Come on. Not even Skyrim can compete with BG3 lmao.
Skyrim is completely different game to bg3
You mod skyrim to be coom simulator in vr because it is not a good game
You play bg3 to play a game because its a good game
>it’s perfect as it is
it’s literally unfinished
>why isn't anyone else making a big deal out of it besides you cowards?
because BG3 got frontloaded this overhyped so it’s not “cool” to shit on it even though it’s blatantly unfinished and the devs lied about a bunch of things
>New game on the same engine as some of the most modded game's in the history of gaming has more mods than other game without it.
How could this happen?
Sad but true.
>Long game with tons of content
>Universally loved
>Great replayability
>Great fun with friends
Yeah, it's a mystery.
walpaper engine bros just cant stop winning!
best gameplay!
>bg had a higher peak than cyberslop
AHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHA
>Starfield Retrospective: It came and went. [3:22:57]
Based Bethesda going back to making true RPGs that filter normalgays
What's more impressive is how people love gta rp, wtf
that entire list is garbage
t. Pedo game enjoyer
The overwhelming majority of gamers on earth simultaneously decided to switch from Steam to game pass when Starfield released. It actually had and still has millions of players. It's called synchronicity, look it up.
>Cyberpunk
>Gta
>Naraka
Shooters I get it, but these ones will never stop to amaze me.