I believe you can build 300u in every direction from the base computer.
It's been a while since I've played, but I recall you could glitch past that limit. I think it involved placing a base part at the border of your base and moving it a bit further out a few times.
I think you could also just build a 300u tall tower with a landing pad at the top, land your ship up there and then place a new base computer on top of your ship (so it's actually it's past the limit of your base.)
Its both but its not proper. Just like with the words hang, hung and hanged. You can hang a criminal but a criminal can't be hung, they are to be hanged. If you hang a towel, you can also leave a towel hung but you can't leave a towel hanged.
Never forget that the harder you try with English, the more moronic it gets.
It's not physics, it's theorized that it's the increase in active models and object permanence that is taxing the processor (both the SeS and SeX have the same) to the limit.
https://www.eurogamer.net/fallout-76-has-built-in-speed-hacks-if-you-unlock-the-framerate-on-pc
If you looked at the floor in Fallout 76 it boosted your FPS and acted as a speedhack
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>2018 >Beta
It's fixed now but 76 is still a buggy mess lol
Once again, Xbox is holding back Microsoft from achieving great games, what a horrible brand. Should of closed up shop and just exist as GamePass already.
>"well we only playtested it on 30 fps!!" >literally everything breaks from quests to physics because the goofballs in charge don't understand how frames work
>Comparing apples or oranges. >proves xir doesn't know shit about tech.
Wew lads, we've got another Gankerermin pretending to know what they're talking about. All RDNA2 GPU will have ML and VRS, Snoys have a custom RDNA 2 that's stripped down and feature deprived, where as Series X is actual RNDA 2. Get it right, frickboi. That's why PS5 doesn't have int4/8 or VRS. This is also why porting games developed for PS5 tend to require 10 times the work as games developed for X/S. Nips always cut corners where they shouldn't. Sony didn't learn with the PS3 or the PS4.
>Tears of the Kingdom. >30fps.
LMAO! No, its not even capped. The came frequently falls into the 20s but remember, its 10/10 perfect and we're all just mindbroken. :^)
The general reaction I see online is more like this. If a handheld game runs at 20 fps the Switch söyboys will still play that garbage and praise it as a masterpiece
most games released for new gen consoles came with both the options of uncapped 30 and capped 30, so stripping that option away especially when todd said "it's capable of doing 60 but we don't want to make it look ugly" just makes consolekeks furious lol
its the eternal snoy
sales matter, until the exact moment a nintendo game sells more
sales don't matter graphics matter, until the exact moment a PC game looks better
graphics don't matter the frame rate does, until the exact moment all three consoles have the same frame rate
>there are people on Ganker right now who play Bethesda games on fricking consoles
YOU DO NOT BELONG HERE
GO BACK TO YOUR CONTAINMENT WEBSITE
YOUR PROTEST IS OVER
oh? the pip boy is easier to use on a console than a PC?
just shut the frick up you stupid homosexual, just because the console experience has improved doesn't mean it's designed for console and PC is an afterthought. There's some actual games on PC that are horrible to use with M&KB because they're built only for controller. Bethesda games are not one of them
what does that even prove? that PC has mods? Of course there's a mod to improve it, that doesn't mean that the original UI is easier to use with a controller than M&KB.
stock UI still lets you map weapons to numbers, you can bind any key to any command, in the pip boy everything is clickable, when shit like that is blocked on the PC version then you have a leg to stand on.
morrowind was peak ui, if you think otherwise youre a virgin consolecope homosexual that needs to touch grass
I'm not disagreeing with that, I'm disagreeing with his implication that the games are now easier to use with a controller compared to m&kb.
>I'm disagreeing with his implication that the games are now easier to use with a controller compared to m&kb.
but thats true.
games nowadays are made with compatability with all inputs in mind, which means the superior mode of input (m+k) is left behind.
its like making a car for people without legs
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regardless, the games are still more efficient to use with kb&m than a controller, even in 3rd persion. A game like GTA or Ass Creed or any racing game sucks to use with kb&m. A game like Forza is so egregious that an actual race wheel is clunkier than a controller because it's designed only for controller. Like I said, while Bethesda has improved the UI for controllers, that doesn't necessarily mean that the games are awful to use with KB&M
Didn't you ever wonder why the UI from Oblivion onwards got so fricking chunky? They've been designing the games primarily for console since then. One glance at the games will tell you that.
you'd think they'd be more upset about the lack of mods on console
but everyone and their mother bought into le 60 frames meme and are constantly frothing at the mouth about fps like it's the sole factor which makes a game good
Honestly worse than graphictards
>The frick would you need mods for
QoL improvements, FPS optimizations, texture and lighting improvements, character model improvements at the very least
>skyrim and fallout 4 have mods on console.
they have SOME mods, not all of them
no adult mods are allowed either, and nothing that requires script extenders works either iirc
adult mods are there are aswell, only actual sex mods arent. when it comes to skyrim mods, only PS always lost out, because of Sonys stance towards assets not in the official game or something like that, limiting the amount hard of what could be modded for the PS version.
>you'd think they'd be more upset about the lack of mods on console
you'd think they'd be more concerned with Paid Mods israeliteshit that'll probably happen
10 years ago the internet was up in arms about paid mods and violently shat on it
wouldnt be surprised if zoomers and alphies willingly accept it and shill it saying its necessary
>you will >whether you like it or not >you are not happy >frick you
I've never seen a strawman get mauled by its creator so hard before. This guy is probably so passive aggressive to everyone he knows
>moron doesn't seem to know nor comprehend that it has veg playing video games at 30fps since, forever. >moron doesn't know nor comprehend that consoles CANNOT do 4K 60fps, for $500
This has to be marketing...before the game comes out, they will say "we've been listening to fan feedback and have added a 60FPS mode". Goys will applaud and marketing tactic was successful, rinse and repeat.
How is that copium treating you? They literally said they can't do 60 fps on console because of the cpu. It's fricking impossible on these weak ass console.
yes but for some reason it's not in the settings. one line in the .cfg though. makes it from a janky console mess into something actually playable. it does not feel smooth at 60fps, due to how fast and janky it all is. much better at 120+
>F76
Probably the only positive thing about that game since a million other things went wrong after release that made CP77's problems look mild in comparison, lol.
>you can build a console killer well above the Series X or PS5 for $500 these days
No you actually fricking can't, you can build a rig that could do 60fps Starfield at 1080p at most for that price.
>No you actually fricking can't >you can build a rig that could do 60fps Starfield at 1080p at most for that price
That's still beating what the consoles can run it at for the same price though
The game aims for you with a controller, you just point in the general direction of an enemy. I prefer shooters where you have to actually aim at enemies.
I still don't understand this. In the previous video they showed you aiming even down sights but in the new one if you shoot from the hip there's a lot of magnetism. I doubt it will be that sever in the final product, I think they amped it up for the gameplay showcase.
they literally don't idk what the frick you're talking about
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yeah it's hard to notice when you've been playing console fps your entire life, devs have gotten gud about hiding it so people dont feel bad
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are those evil devs in the room with you right now?
11 months ago
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>evil devs
wtf are you talking about
all im saying is that console games have aim assist and bullet magnetism because aiming with a controller is impossible, those games dont work without it
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what games have you played with a controller that you find it so difficult to aim with them?
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none of them because they have aim assist. i've tried it a few times on pc games with no aim assist and it doesn't work. it's why crossplay with console is such a nightmare to deal with, either you let console players have aimhacks or you get a repeat of the quake 3 Dreamcast port
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>none of them >I've tried it a few times
Besides that, I think you're off your meds
11 months ago
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i've never had trouble with a console game, but i have had trouble with a pc games that dont have the aim assist. what is there you dont understand?
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so it's basically a skill issue and you've conjured up some boogey-man to justify why you get bodied at Halo MCC: Reach multiplayer.
You should've started there my friend, the trick is to aim at the helmet.
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wait you dont think halo has any aim assist? it's not really a secret or anything.
Given this guy works for Xbox, if I were Phil I'd have him come down to Bethesda and have him optimize the game since he's so confident enough to trash it publicly and work against his own masters like this.
No? I posted that picture because he's defending Starfield and it's funny that he's talking about pentiment having 4k/120fps as if that game was slightly demanding
>Microsoft claims their new-gen console to be the most powerful console ever made. >their only exclusive main game can only run at 30 FPS on the proclaimed "most powerful console ever made"
>shoot gun at a metal >game craps itself
Maybe they should've considered not adding Borderlands levels of glitter and sparkles. Poor Xbox >tracer rounds hurt my little baby GPPU 🙁
>12 TERA-FLOPS >SIMPLE SCENE WITH NO DRAW DISTANCE OR COMPLEX GEOMETRY >BETHESDA IN CHARGE OF OPTIMIZING THEIR GAMES
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>PC port will have a 60 fps mod but the physics are tied to the fps.
Looks like Bethesda still hasn't moved on from 2006
The fact Black folk have made it the #1 pre ordered game shows how fricking cucked gamers are. I'm tired of their b***hin about why AAA games are buggy yet get on their knees for jank slop
dumb Black person, bethesda itself said the game always runs above 30 and goes to 60 from time to time on shitbox but they locked it for consistency
pc is uncapped
worst case scenario physics are tied to framerate but the moment starfield script extender drops, delta time is one simple mod away like it was for all beth games
>try to think of hero ships I want to build in Starfield >realize nothing falls within Starfield's allowable size range other than the Millenium Falcon >realize that you can't even make the Millenium Falcon because there are no sufficiently off center nor round design options
It's all so tiresome.
i honestly ask what possible use you could have for that much size. you're pretty much solo in starfield, no? why would a solo guy, even a rich as frick one, bother with a ship much bigger than mando's little dinghy? han solo and chewie only used the millenium because it was a cargo ship and they were literally smugglers
>you're pretty much solo in starfield
No. You literally have a large grew in every single trailer, at one shot you had 5+ dudes sitting on computer terminals on one room alone.
Not once has there been any indication that you could go solo.
>yeah ummm you cant run our game at 60 fps because the engine just doesnt allow it or things like ladders and trains. thats why we had to put a hat modeled as a train on this npc's head and have him run around >change an ini value from 0 to 1 >fps uncapped >some random russian modder in his underwear fixes everything else for free
bethesda has been an incompetent moron company for 20 years
What is the actual fricking point of these "next gen systems" if that can't even do the bare minimum which is 60 fps.
People forgave zelda totk because it's stuck on decade old hardware, but what the frick is the excuse here that starfield can't do 60 fps on a series x or FF16 not doing a consistent 60 fps on the PS5. Gaming on console is so shit nowadays.
>what the frick is the excuse here that starfield can't do 60 fps on a series x
cpu limitations primarily, they did say it's locked for consistency but could go higher, doubt we'll ever see a patch though >or FF16 not doing a consistent 60 fps on the PS5
the only info i could find on this is that squeenix is notoriously bad at optimizing their models after they're done in zbrush
considering the size of starfield, it seems like squeenix is the one with the skill issue
Series X could definitely play it at 60 but they're basically punishing X owners so it runs at parity withe S defeating the entire point of the X existence.
If it does, it might actually be a game I play for "years" like they say. I dont think it's likely though since Bethesda isnt Rockstar Games, EA, or Hideo Kojima.
Yeah that shit is running on Creation Engine 2, which is just a mutant version of Creation Engine, which is just a mutant version of Gamebyro, and they've been using that shit since Oblivion because they're too fricking lazy and stupid to make a new engine. Bethesda games have always been a shit on consoles and they always will be.
Can’t we go like 40 frames per or 45? Why is always 30 or 60. Do devs not understand that there are numbers in between 30 and 60? Over 28 of them in fact!
Human eyes can’t see past 30 frames a second, but if you wear glasses you can see 60. This is why nerds are always having meltdowns about needing 60. While normal humans don’t care.
Because at 30 FPS you can sync with a 60 Hz display every second refresh. If you have 40 FPS it's not consistent. People have been asking for 40 FPS mostly because of the possibility to sync with 120 Hz displays though.
people will scream and cry but 40 fps on handhelds works surprisingly well, to the point id rather have 40 fps high settings vs 60 fps med settings. Steam Deck gta 5 >mfw i can do 60 fps anyways on a fricking steam deck and starfields frickin 30 on consoles
wew
denominations of average refresh rates in addition to being considered thresholds for average human perception. 30FPS is about the lower limit where a human can still be comfortable once they're used to it. Where 60 is about as high as it needs to be for a person to consider the experience as smooth.
Because most TVs run at 60hz thanks to the NTSC standard that we had for the past hundred years. If the ratio between frame rate and screen refresh rate isn't a whole integer, then motion will appear choppy.
I'm not taking away from people complaining about it not being 60 fps given that this generation is constantly cucking at 30 fps when they were hyping 60 for ages, but I don't really see it as a huge deal.
I stopped playing vidya at the end of the 360's lifespan, my first 60 fps experience was with Spiderman Miles Morales on te PS5 and I did notice the difference, how much fluid it was, but it wouldn't make or break a game.
I saw the first gameplay reveal of Starfield and I was beyond salty at Bethesda for taking so much time and resources developing what looked to be total shit instead of working on TES6, but this new trailer kinda turned me around.
I know Todd has made exagerated statements in the past that turned out to not be true but so far everything he's claimed was actually shown in the trailer.
The gameplay feels much more fluid and serviceable, the locations seem varied, the rpg system looks pretty in depth and maybe worth replaying the game for, customization seems insane.
The only thing that bugs me is that they're still forcing you into the main quest right out of the bat. I wish they would include an alternate start like in Skyrim mods so you don't have to slog through the begining of the game and perpetually ignore the main quest.
Can I get some actual opinions on the game and the trailer instead of sperging and repeating the "sweet little lies" memes?
BUT I HAVE AM M.2 SSD SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT WHEN MY SYSTEM CANT RUN IT I CAN KILL YOU??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
FUVK YOU AND DIE DIRECT STORAGE IS GARBAGE VRAM ISTRASH THE ONLY THING THT MATTERS IS GPU POWER OF WHICH YOU HAVE NONE YOU FRICKING LOSER
PSA: SNOYS and Squarenigers are spamming these threads now because FFXVI was esposed as a shitshow on par with the tortanic and having less than 30 FPS and stuttering all time.
some games look better at 30fps, like Xenoblade Chronicles games for example, have you seen them running at 60fps on emulators? they look cheap and shitty, 30 fps can look very good, other examples are Forza Horizon 2 and 3 on the OG Bone, 3 looks really bad at 60fps on PC
>homosexuals want frames instead of games. >homosexuals literally going on about a meme war that isn't real >homosexuals don't comprehend that consoles are dead and PC has already won. >homosexuals don't seem to know nor comprehend that PC has the latest library of games >homosexuals can't seem to recognize that ALL games are headed to PC, thereby rendering Console gaming a gay, fan boy meme that's ultimately DEAD >muh gay Station exclusives >GoW on PC >RDR on PC >See the trend, homosexual?
I already 3D scanned my face and made a head model. Imported it into Skyrim. Will import it into Starfield so I can self insert and date hot alien women with big tiddies. Holy fuuuuuck! I literally don’t know why youd ever buy Bethesda shit on a console. You might as well be burning money
consolegays prefer graphix over framerate, so giving them 30 fps games make sense. anyone who wants to play a bethesda game at 60 fps is already going to play on pc
>bespoke per-pixel and per-object motion blur doesn't exist in games
But PC isn't going to have capped FPS, so the game is obviously being held back by your console, which incidentally is marketed as being the most powerful yet the big games aren't running any better than the Switch's biggest title.
>b-but peecee
you a snoy falsegay or just autistic? i know that nintendo gays are autistic too but it's not like they have a horse in this race, so which is it?
Why can't the Series X run Starfield at 60fps? What is that pathetic console for if it can't deliver the 60fps you were promised?
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>autism confirmed
can you now tell me what age you were diagnosed with autism? it's for a study
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I may be autistic homosexual but the game should be played at 60fps frick off
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i asked for the age you received your diagnosis, can i get that first?
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wtf is wrong with you, why are you asking that seriously? frick off
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>DUMB homosexuals going on about a fake console meme war >Dumb homosexuals crying about "muh frames" >Dumb homosexuals do not comprehend that in the end, what matters most are GAMES. NOT frames.
But PC isn't going to have capped FPS, so the game is obviously being held back by your console, which incidentally is marketed as being the most powerful yet the big games aren't running any better than the Switch's biggest title.
I joined the pc master race with an overpriced, overpowered, riced out gaming rig a little over a year ago, and I still deliberately limit the framerate to 30 or 60 fps in the options to keep my case fans from blowing like jet turbines when the GPU thinks "unlimited" framerate means "jerk around between 200 to 2000 frames per second"
>30fps >30
Thirty frames per second
12.1 teraflops
30fps
The power of the xbox is 30fps. Breaking i5 down using math. The xbox is wasting 0.4 terraflops per frame. What a waste of electric.
Rendering polygons is directly related to floating point operations on normalized vectors.
He maybe doesn't understand the intricate details and exact info, but it is abysmal usage of the hardware all things considered.
Oblivion worked on single core Pentium Prescotts and with 512MB of ram and a geforce fx 6600 estimated at around 380gigaflops single point precision.
It better be simulating dynamic trade for that entire 1000 planet galaxy in real time if its gonna be stuck at 30fps on 8 core computers with 16GB of ram and modern gpus.
name one (1) game that realistically simulates global space trade, I'll wait
11 months ago
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Eve online.
11 months ago
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EVE online
11 months ago
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Not EVE online.
who do I believe...
11 months ago
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No one not even (you)rself.
11 months ago
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Not EVE online.
11 months ago
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grand theft auto (1997)
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Space Warlord Organ Trading Simulator
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Eve. But you could easily run a basic spreadsheet with resources and prices and simulate a predetermined supply and demand structure for this. Its a game, it doesnt need to be more complicated than an approximate simulation.
>Remember how Bethesda games used to have a hard 60 fps cap for all their games
How can we remember something that was never a thing? Are you an unironic schizo?
So you're not unaware that for Bethesda's games going back over 10 years they all had a 60fps cap and disabling that would break numerous mechanics of the game with the most notable one being physics?
There's roughly 8 million animals on earth and half a million plants. Bethesda is an abysmal failure of a company. I expect to see about 300,000 to 400,000 buildings in a capital city, not just 16. Worst dev ever.
A smaller one would not have life at all.
What would happen with it if one of the plant species die out from something, what do you think?
Its the same "we studied data from NASA" showing footage of the protagonist walking similarly on different planets not affected by gravity, level of thought that they put in to their games
>forcing people to play at 30 fps
Pathetic. Even though i capped my FPS to 30. it's my own choice, as i care much about my GPU not getting too hot. But forcing people to play at 0 FPS is just like admitting you are hack who can't into optimization.
reminds me of that time dobson streamed himself playing oblivion and it was no joke like 10 fps because his system was fricking ancient.
still wonder where he went, he disappeared from the internet completely like he finally learned his lesson >also random reminder scott, the vgcatz dude is ACTUALLY gone, like, previous suicide attempts, divorced, forced to draw aerith and leo furry porn to pay child support, uniroincally went on a coke and hookers binge he admitted on his own twitter account and now everythings gone. comic, site, patreon for vgcats porn
where is his body
It's gotta be a CPU thing right? Otherwise it would just have a performance mode. I'm playing it at over 60 on PC anyway so I don't care but just curious.
>gamers are mad
Who else would be mad about FPS in a game? Football fans?
Also I’m not surprised AI is being used to cut costs or fill quotas in news shit.
My guess is that since they're going with 4K anyway that it's "sometimes" less and actually hitting the GPU limitation. When they tried it at 1440p or lower, it was probably hitting 60 more but still not all the time because of CPU bottleneck.
I'm just hoping it's not too crazy with the CPU. I'll probably get 60 with my 5600x but if it has DLSS I'd like to go even higher to 80+ even if I have to turn own settings but that's pointless if my 5600x bottlenecks.
My previous CPU bottlenecked Fallout 4 but that is an old game by now.
This is just a guess but basing it on the recommended specs and how it's running on consoles, you may get 1440/60 with high settings, but with a few things turned down. Historically, there's always like one or two settings that rape FPS and don't destroy the visuals turning them off in a Bethesda game. I know Fallout 4 had like one thing I turned off and I went from 50 FPS to like 100.
He definitely doesn't have a 4 GB card. Speccy is outdated and stupid. Though 8 GB can be limited too, I know from my 2070. But usually dropping textures one notch seems fine in most games still.
>FPS is getting worse >System requirements are getting higher >File size is getting larger
GAMES WERE SUPPOSED TO GET BETTER, NOT WORSE. WHAT THE FRICK?! I HATE GLOBOhomosexual I HATE GLOBOhomosexual I HATE GLOBOhomosexual I HATE GLOBOHOMO.
>File size is getting larger
It [game] takes up all the space on your consoles hard drive you'll play it exclusively and be much more inclined to buy micro transactions
it really is what it's always been, either mind blowing graphics or big game
however I think that we've capped when it comes to realistic graphics and developers should instead invest in art direction
some games have simple graphics but the art direction is so good that it looks better than hyper realistic ones
Fricking morons. If you're of the PC master race, I could understand you laughing at the fact that Pee-Ass-5 and Ass-Box not being able to do 4K 60FPS. However, if you're an ASS-box or Pee-Ass 5 gay and making this argument about "not enough frames", then you're just a blithering fricking idiot. NO CONSOLE WILL DO 4K 60FPS in any new game, especially a "nextgen" open world game, at that. It is just not to going to happen, unless it's a remake from 15 years ago, or the game isn't demanding. No nextgen title can do this.
The problem is they were lied to by Snoyny and Microsoft that the consoles would be able to do that, and they believed it despite everyone telling them it wouldn't be the case.
I haven't been paying much attention to the press stuff but does anybody know how the RPG stuff is in starfield compared to like fallout 4 or earlier games by bethesda like 3 or oblivion?
it's much better than Fallout 4, that's for sure. They got more in depth with classes and there are so many specific perks. I'm esl and can't explain it well but you could watch some highlights of the Starfield Direct and you'll know immediately. Apparently Todd learned a lot of lessons from Fallout 4, starting with silent protag.
Starfield would be so great if there were primitive tribal aliens you could find on random planets and kill them all with high tech weaponry. Unfortunately no one could put that in a game these days because mentally ill progressives would complain that it's racist.
I don't know why Snoys care Starfield so much
They have FF16 next week, they have Spider-Man 2 few months later, hell if they want to play Starfield they can play it on PC
Because snoys don't actually care about games, they only care about having all (preferably as exclusives) the supposedly GOTYs to feel superior to other people. Owning a Playstation is their personality and they know Starfield and TOTK matters 10 times more than FF (which will be multiplat eventually anyway and probably won't perform too well) or Spiderman 1.5.
They can't play the two major releases this year without admitting other platforms have games and they are seething when someone tells them "just buy a PC/Xbox/Switch if you want to play these games" - something they kept parroting in the last decade when something came out as PS only.
They are especially salty about the Sony showcase which proved what anyone with half a brain knew: they will probably won't get meaningful new first parties for years. PS games took extremely long to develop, even in the PS4 gen and if you look at the release cycles of their studios, nobody but Insomniac can do work in a few years. Meanwhile it looks like Xbox is finally getting their schedule in order so they now need to invent new ways to try to feel superior.
so what kind of CPU will we need to run this @60 stable ? SeriesX cpu is around Ryzen 7 3700 , series x cpu runs @3.5 ghz when multitreading , and tech wizs here got any idea what would give us enough cpu performance to double this ?
the eye cant see past 24 frames anyway.
So you have a 6 frame buffer to make sure its synched up. That should be fine unless you have autism.
You dont have autism... right?
30 fps is actually better it's like how movies at 23 fps. It's for a better viewing experience stylistically since space is a vacuum you wont have perfect vision
its the eternal snoy
sales matter, until the exact moment a nintendo game sells more
sales don't matter graphics matter, until the exact moment a PC game looks better
graphics don't matter the frame rate does, until the exact moment all three consoles have the same frame rate
most games released for new gen consoles came with both the options of uncapped 30 and capped 30, so stripping that option away especially when todd said "it's capable of doing 60 but we don't want to make it look ugly" just makes consolekeks furious lol
>new gays dont remember the YEARS of 360 and PS cope about framerate locks
b***h the game is 3 months away can y'all talk about anything else
No, and then you will ser threads every minute once it’s out
>y'all
I'm having fun with NMS
what happens when you jump?
Abolutely fricking nothing, you don't even get an animation for jumping from really high like in GTA san andreas
I'm playing on creative mode, so I don't have to shoot at rocks
is there a height cap? Could you go high enough into space and then put a landing platform and land while in space?
That is the heigh limit, I'll have to try to build a floor there and land on it
you're doing god's work anon.
keep it up.
I believe you can build 300u in every direction from the base computer.
It's been a while since I've played, but I recall you could glitch past that limit. I think it involved placing a base part at the border of your base and moving it a bit further out a few times.
I think you could also just build a 300u tall tower with a landing pad at the top, land your ship up there and then place a new base computer on top of your ship (so it's actually it's past the limit of your base.)
I'll have to try all that
Gayest looking 'fun' I've ever seen
No doubt you're an expert in having gay fun, homosexual.
Sorry, did we bump off one of your zelda threads?
Wtf, I thought multiple species was still "fish"
Its both but its not proper. Just like with the words hang, hung and hanged. You can hang a criminal but a criminal can't be hung, they are to be hanged. If you hang a towel, you can also leave a towel hung but you can't leave a towel hanged.
Never forget that the harder you try with English, the more moronic it gets.
>yall
unironically have a nice day
Seconded. Frick southern scum
newbie. when this releases its gonna be all starfield baby. just like with all bethesda games before
Just buy it on Steam.
>uncap FPS
>everything breaks
It just works...
You are a couple days late, snoy.
Bethesda games have always been 30 on console and 60 on PC.
This is no different.
That doesn't make it right, who the frick is still tying physics to framerate in the year our lord 2023?
Reddit has called.
It's not physics, it's theorized that it's the increase in active models and object permanence that is taxing the processor (both the SeS and SeX have the same) to the limit.
>Bethesda games have always been 30 on console and 60 on PC
Skyrim broke if you ran it at 60 fps on PC at release. Why do you people always lie?
They're all moronic zoomers too young to remember launch day Skyrim.
if I'm not mistaken physics are no longer tied to FPS, no?
stuff broke in fallout 4 so i wouldnt be too sure
76 fixed it and they ditched Havok in Starfield
https://www.eurogamer.net/fallout-76-has-built-in-speed-hacks-if-you-unlock-the-framerate-on-pc
If you looked at the floor in Fallout 76 it boosted your FPS and acted as a speedhack
>2018
>Beta
It's fixed now but 76 is still a buggy mess lol
More?
it never broke when you ran it at 60fps but above 60
This. Also they modified the engine to not depend on the frame rate for various calculations (which is a pretty normal thing for many engines btw).
It broke ABOVE 60, not at 60. Why do Tortanic gays always lie?
Anti-bethesdagays are very irrational
Bethesda gays are pretty irrational too. My favorite is
>It's fun BECAUSE it's buggy
Those aren't Bethesda fans, those are Todd shitposters
It's clear they still expect it to be run at 30, walk over a ribcage in Skyrim at 60 or higher.
There's no way the PC version is capped to 30. It's only capped to 30 on Xbox consoles.
Once again, Xbox is holding back Microsoft from achieving great games, what a horrible brand. Should of closed up shop and just exist as GamePass already.
that's how it should be but this is bethesda
>"well we only playtested it on 30 fps!!"
>literally everything breaks from quests to physics because the goofballs in charge don't understand how frames work
knowing Bethesda, uncapping the framerate is how the warp drive works
Xbox version comes with the pc copy free of charge lol
I was pretty excited for Starfield until I realized it's going to have Denuvo.
Why would it have denuvo?
It's a AAA game releasing in 2023
no one cares about console framerate, everyone here is playing on PC
At least (you) have the option to play on PC
All 3 games are on or will be on PC.
I play TotK at 1080p 60FPs with Yuzu, and so can you.
>"60FPS" with drops to 5-58fps every 100ms.
Yeah amazing
>emulating the true Switch experience
Jamie pull up that video with fire on the Switch
>you have to wait while I'll experience it day one
you such a winner, my special boye.
Series S is not next gen lmao. It's 30fps on the Series X as well
>Series S is not next gen lmao
It's more next gen then the ps5, at least it's not some rdna 2.5 abomination.
and yet it runs games better than series x
dx12 and split bandwidth is way worse than whatever features are omitted from ps5's "rdna 1.5"
>Comparing apples or oranges.
>proves xir doesn't know shit about tech.
Wew lads, we've got another Gankerermin pretending to know what they're talking about. All RDNA2 GPU will have ML and VRS, Snoys have a custom RDNA 2 that's stripped down and feature deprived, where as Series X is actual RNDA 2. Get it right, frickboi. That's why PS5 doesn't have int4/8 or VRS. This is also why porting games developed for PS5 tend to require 10 times the work as games developed for X/S. Nips always cut corners where they shouldn't. Sony didn't learn with the PS3 or the PS4.
>Tears of the Kingdom.
>30fps.
LMAO! No, its not even capped. The came frequently falls into the 20s but remember, its 10/10 perfect and we're all just mindbroken. :^)
Your broken emulated version doesn't count, pedro
20s? Do you mean 20s^-1?
Kek is Zelda really 30 fps?
nah it's more like 22-28
The general reaction I see online is more like this. If a handheld game runs at 20 fps the Switch söyboys will still play that garbage and praise it as a masterpiece
It's free on gamepass
i mean, thats pretty much everyones reaction to xbox in general
switch never pretended to be a next gen console and didn't advertise 60fps
also totk is actually a good game, so people give it a pass
if you don't have a latest gen cpu, you will be playing at 30fps as well.
Lmao frick off pcBlack person. I’m buying it on Xbox where it’s meant to be played
>console Black folk suddenly care about framerate
most games released for new gen consoles came with both the options of uncapped 30 and capped 30, so stripping that option away especially when todd said "it's capable of doing 60 but we don't want to make it look ugly" just makes consolekeks furious lol
>we don't want to make it look ugly
So why did they design it the way they did?
its the eternal snoy
sales matter, until the exact moment a nintendo game sells more
sales don't matter graphics matter, until the exact moment a PC game looks better
graphics don't matter the frame rate does, until the exact moment all three consoles have the same frame rate
>there are people on Ganker right now who play Bethesda games on fricking consoles
YOU DO NOT BELONG HERE
GO BACK TO YOUR CONTAINMENT WEBSITE
YOUR PROTEST IS OVER
Bethesda has been designing their games explicitly for consoles ever since Oblivion, anon.
GO BACK YOU FRICKING MORON
oh? the pip boy is easier to use on a console than a PC?
just shut the frick up you stupid homosexual, just because the console experience has improved doesn't mean it's designed for console and PC is an afterthought. There's some actual games on PC that are horrible to use with M&KB because they're built only for controller. Bethesda games are not one of them
SkyUI is literally the most popular Skyrim mod because it was made with console players in mind anon, take your meds
what does that even prove? that PC has mods? Of course there's a mod to improve it, that doesn't mean that the original UI is easier to use with a controller than M&KB.
stock UI still lets you map weapons to numbers, you can bind any key to any command, in the pip boy everything is clickable, when shit like that is blocked on the PC version then you have a leg to stand on.
I'm not disagreeing with that, I'm disagreeing with his implication that the games are now easier to use with a controller compared to m&kb.
>Skyrim's original UI isn't better to navigate with a controller
These baits are getting boring
>I'm disagreeing with his implication that the games are now easier to use with a controller compared to m&kb.
but thats true.
games nowadays are made with compatability with all inputs in mind, which means the superior mode of input (m+k) is left behind.
its like making a car for people without legs
regardless, the games are still more efficient to use with kb&m than a controller, even in 3rd persion. A game like GTA or Ass Creed or any racing game sucks to use with kb&m. A game like Forza is so egregious that an actual race wheel is clunkier than a controller because it's designed only for controller. Like I said, while Bethesda has improved the UI for controllers, that doesn't necessarily mean that the games are awful to use with KB&M
SkyUI is amazing with a gamepad though. It's just that Skyrim UI is garbage. Fallout 4 UI was good.
morrowind was peak ui, if you think otherwise youre a virgin consolecope homosexual that needs to touch grass
Didn't you ever wonder why the UI from Oblivion onwards got so fricking chunky? They've been designing the games primarily for console since then. One glance at the games will tell you that.
So that's why all their games suck. I thought they were just bad at making games but now it makes sense.
>there are people on Ganker right now who play Bethesda games
You're one to talk, plebbithomosexual.
>console
There’s your problem moron.
PC is capped too. They tied the physics to framerate like a Japanese Dev. This game will crash and be pathetic, flop.
Is this about console or PC?
just console plebs comblaining, pc is still 60+
>((Rubinsky))
Hmm, that tingling sensation is back but what could it mean?
That you’re a waste of skin moron who will never amount to anything?
>playing bethesda games on consoles
You must be a special kind of moron
you'd think they'd be more upset about the lack of mods on console
but everyone and their mother bought into le 60 frames meme and are constantly frothing at the mouth about fps like it's the sole factor which makes a game good
Honestly worse than graphictards
Starfield will be as big as 10 Texas states. The frick would you need mods for when there's essentially an infinitely huge game to explore
are you fricking moronic? lmfao
You console Black folk are intellectually nerfed
>The frick would you need mods for
QoL improvements, FPS optimizations, texture and lighting improvements, character model improvements at the very least
skyrim and fallout 4 have mods on console. starfield should as well but you never know with bethesda
>skyrim and fallout 4 have mods on console.
they have SOME mods, not all of them
no adult mods are allowed either, and nothing that requires script extenders works either iirc
adult mods are there are aswell, only actual sex mods arent. when it comes to skyrim mods, only PS always lost out, because of Sonys stance towards assets not in the official game or something like that, limiting the amount hard of what could be modded for the PS version.
>you'd think they'd be more upset about the lack of mods on console
you'd think they'd be more concerned with Paid Mods israeliteshit that'll probably happen
10 years ago the internet was up in arms about paid mods and violently shat on it
wouldnt be surprised if zoomers and alphies willingly accept it and shill it saying its necessary
>you will
>whether you like it or not
>you are not happy
>frick you
I've never seen a strawman get mauled by its creator so hard before. This guy is probably so passive aggressive to everyone he knows
You will eat the bugs
You will live in the pod
I will have to play at 30 fps?
how about I do not even buy the game and never play it instead
you stupid fricking c**t homosexual Black person
>moron doesn't seem to know nor comprehend that it has veg playing video games at 30fps since, forever.
>moron doesn't know nor comprehend that consoles CANNOT do 4K 60fps, for $500
Not on my pc.
Don't care
Playing on PC
Not surprising for an open-world console game.
I doubt extremely that it'll be capped on PC, but I'll bust a gut laughing if it somehow is.
you ungrateful incels don't deserve even 30fps. sit down and be thankful to these hard-working programmers
>use 20 year old engine
>it still has framerate locked animations
>20 year old engine
SIXTEEN TIMES THE DETAIL, JACK. CAN'T FRET OVER SIXTY FPS WHEN YOU'RE HAULING BOXES OF OMELETTES
older. gamebyro was released in 1997
CoD still uses 30 year old quake code. No excuses.
>CoD still uses 30 year old quake code
Is this supposed to mean something? There's many reasons I don't care about CoD, that is one of them.
Just buy it on PC where it'll have a Framerate unlocker--whether Bethesda likes it or not.
>he is playing on console instead of on the pc with futa mods.
This has to be marketing...before the game comes out, they will say "we've been listening to fan feedback and have added a 60FPS mode". Goys will applaud and marketing tactic was successful, rinse and repeat.
meds
How is that copium treating you? They literally said they can't do 60 fps on console because of the cpu. It's fricking impossible on these weak ass console.
It's probably just a lie.
Is Fallout 4 60?
HAAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHA
I play it at a stable 60 on a budget ryzen APU.
>physics tied to the framerate
Even engines for brainlets like unity have a separated physics refresh rate.
They already fixed that in F76
is f76s frame rate unlockable
Yes
yes but for some reason it's not in the settings. one line in the .cfg though. makes it from a janky console mess into something actually playable. it does not feel smooth at 60fps, due to how fast and janky it all is. much better at 120+
>F76
Probably the only positive thing about that game since a million other things went wrong after release that made CP77's problems look mild in comparison, lol.
They also got the Pickle Rick guy to do some voice work for that game which would turn out to be a stupid decision
>physics tied to the framerate
you're thinking of dark souls not creation engine games
>playing PC games on a console
Get what you deserve, goldface, etc,.
>PC gamers when their 1800$ rig is stronger than our 500$ console!!!!
>NOOOOOOOOO WHY IS OUR CONSOLE CAPPED AT 30 FPS THIS IS UNFAIR
>Plays on PC
What was that journalist? I can't hear you over the sound of my rig.
It's not the middle of the crypto boom anymore, you can build a console killer well above the Serise X or PS5 for $500 these days.
>you can build a console killer well above the Series X or PS5 for $500 these days
No you actually fricking can't, you can build a rig that could do 60fps Starfield at 1080p at most for that price.
>No you actually fricking can't
>you can build a rig that could do 60fps Starfield at 1080p at most for that price
That's still beating what the consoles can run it at for the same price though
my PC is $600 and runs just as good as a shitbox or a shitstation plus i can play every game from both consoles for free
ummm.... xisters??
Why would we care that a PS5 game is performing terrible on a ps5?
>white lines
>white
color blind morons.
ah yes, can't wait to play the latest slop at 60 fps instead of 30 fps like console peasants
Console plebs btfo 4 ever
you cant see 60fps anyway
>it's ok when blurrborne
Bloodborne is a good game despite being 30fps. It would be a better game at 60fps. But it is not a bad game.
bloodborne barely hits 30fps though, don't get me wrong I liked the game but playing it at sub 30fps 720p? is not ideal at all
agree. 30 fps is totally enough. i mean, your eyes cant see more than 25fps anyway. bloodbornes 20fps are basically the industry standard right now.
Never said 30 fps was fine or good. I said Bloodborne was a good game *despite* being 30(20ish) fps
yes, its a very good game *despite* dropping to 15 fps as soon as a blurry candle light appears in the distance
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PHILL HELP MEEEEEEEEEE
>30 fps
>pays for online
>can't even aim with a controller
>no mods
press S to spit on consolekeks lmao
>can't even aim with a controller
Imagine admitting to being this moronic
The game aims for you with a controller, you just point in the general direction of an enemy. I prefer shooters where you have to actually aim at enemies.
I still don't understand this. In the previous video they showed you aiming even down sights but in the new one if you shoot from the hip there's a lot of magnetism. I doubt it will be that sever in the final product, I think they amped it up for the gameplay showcase.
Literally every console game does this, shooters are unplayable with a controller and no aim assist.
they literally don't idk what the frick you're talking about
yeah it's hard to notice when you've been playing console fps your entire life, devs have gotten gud about hiding it so people dont feel bad
are those evil devs in the room with you right now?
>evil devs
wtf are you talking about
all im saying is that console games have aim assist and bullet magnetism because aiming with a controller is impossible, those games dont work without it
what games have you played with a controller that you find it so difficult to aim with them?
none of them because they have aim assist. i've tried it a few times on pc games with no aim assist and it doesn't work. it's why crossplay with console is such a nightmare to deal with, either you let console players have aimhacks or you get a repeat of the quake 3 Dreamcast port
>none of them
>I've tried it a few times
Besides that, I think you're off your meds
i've never had trouble with a console game, but i have had trouble with a pc games that dont have the aim assist. what is there you dont understand?
so it's basically a skill issue and you've conjured up some boogey-man to justify why you get bodied at Halo MCC: Reach multiplayer.
You should've started there my friend, the trick is to aim at the helmet.
wait you dont think halo has any aim assist? it's not really a secret or anything.
make fine adjustments without moving your character its impossible when the aim point goes from 0 to light speed at not even half tilt
>mods disabled achievements
Once again Bethesda ruins the fun.
steamies said 30 is enough
Still more than FF16, so no prob
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>1070
I'll just buy the PC version and install a mod to uncap the framerate
pc is 60 fps by default, only consoletards with their shitboxes get 30 fps locked lmao
Really? I thought gameplay elements were tied to the framerate so if you double the framerate the game plays like its on speed
That is true for F76 at least
Just a few years ago barely any console game ran above that and everyone was capable of playing them just fine.
>NOOOOOO M-MUH 30 FRAAAAAAAAAMES
Anon, TotK made MILLIONS on Wii U era tech. Todd did it again.
Consolegays get what they deserve.
Given this guy works for Xbox, if I were Phil I'd have him come down to Bethesda and have him optimize the game since he's so confident enough to trash it publicly and work against his own masters like this.
> trash it publicly
are you incapable of understanding sarcasm?
Are you missing the point? the image next to the goat is plain black. He meant there are no games using that tech and running at 60fps.
No? I posted that picture because he's defending Starfield and it's funny that he's talking about pentiment having 4k/120fps as if that game was slightly demanding
Mu apologies, anon, I said (You), but actually meant the other anons replying to your post.
Hes right but also he looks like the smuggest piece of shit on Earth.
He's New Vegas director
He shipped that game on PS3 (256Mb ram)
what a gay homosexual
imagine getting blown the frick out by a gay homosexual
>t. buttmad console peasant/Todd's personal wienerholster
He's baiting, right?
>My shitty 2D point and click runs at a bajillion FPS on modern hardware so actual games running at 30 is bad!
>Microsoft claims their new-gen console to be the most powerful console ever made.
>their only exclusive main game can only run at 30 FPS on the proclaimed "most powerful console ever made"
The most poweful consold ever made isn't more powerful than a budget PC that came a couple of years after it's launch. It's always been like that.
The human eye doesn't see beyond 30FPS moron
then how come 60 fps looks smoother than 30
30fps * 2 eyes = 60fps
The human eye operates on millions of independent light receptor cells going off continuously
it is about consoles
ENB will fix it
>day one mod unlocks framerate
wow, that was hard
>Starfield is a stable 30 fps on console
>NOOOOOOOOO
>Zelda is an unstable 20 fps on console
>10/10 p-performance d-doesn't matter...
Dilate
>on console*
pchads win again, as always
enjoy your buttery smooth 30fps on goypass poorgays
THE PHYSICS DONT FRICKING WORK IF IT GOES HIGHER THAN 30 FPS PLEASE WORK WITH US
DEAL WITH IT
>Cheeks clapped at 30 time per minute.
more like 20! LMAO
>https://twitter.com/Dream_WaIker/status/1669726307041640455
https://twitter.com/Dream_WaIker/status/1669726307041640455
this is new thread material.
>indoors
>narrow hallway
>baked lighting
>tanking that hard
I'm sure "mods" and "unlocking" the frames will fix that lmao
The engine is choking because of the particles in that scene.
>shoot gun at a metal
>game craps itself
Maybe they should've considered not adding Borderlands levels of glitter and sparkles. Poor Xbox
>tracer rounds hurt my little baby GPPU 🙁
so why was it 22fps before he started shooting?
>12 TERA-FLOPS
>SIMPLE SCENE WITH NO DRAW DISTANCE OR COMPLEX GEOMETRY
>BETHESDA IN CHARGE OF OPTIMIZING THEIR GAMES
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
>PC port will have a 60 fps mod but the physics are tied to the fps.
Looks like Bethesda still hasn't moved on from 2006
The fact Black folk have made it the #1 pre ordered game shows how fricking cucked gamers are. I'm tired of their b***hin about why AAA games are buggy yet get on their knees for jank slop
>All these sources side-stepping the fact that it's on console, not PC
Terrible framerate for thee, but not for me.
Can't wait for the inevitable "if you played it on 60 you didn't actually play it" posts to flood threads
GAMES WERE SUPPOSED TO GET BETTER! WHY THE FRICK IS THIS HAPPENING!?
not all snoys but always a snoy
>this could look the same and run better in Unity
Can't believe it took most homosexuals to notice the drops only after someone pointed them out. Fricking morons.
This game is going be a stuttering mess and run like shit even on a PC with a 4090.
I'm not mad. I'm looking forward to it.
dilate
0 FRAMES PER SECOND ON PS5
You Will Never Go To Space
CRINGE
You can uncap the fps with console mods.
Xbox...
>yes, master?
Lock the FPS to 60...
>master, the game... I can't
Now...
>[loud whirring noises]
40...
>[louder whirring noises]
50...
>[screeching and sparking]
59!
>[farts]
30 is fine. I'm gonna have it at at least 120, though.
lmao what gamers
PC version is uncapped and it's a common knowledge nobody has an Xbox
>PC version is uncapped
it's not, just like your post
dumb Black person, bethesda itself said the game always runs above 30 and goes to 60 from time to time on shitbox but they locked it for consistency
pc is uncapped
worst case scenario physics are tied to framerate but the moment starfield script extender drops, delta time is one simple mod away like it was for all beth games
even if it wasn't it would be a day -5 mod on pc
>it took five (5) years for FO4 to get it's fix
Bros...
Like every Bethesda game? Cool.
>locked 30fps on PC
It's over
>TOTK 30fps with drops to 20
>FFXVI performance mode 45fps with drops to 30
>Starfield locked to 30fps
I hate video games.
>game engine functions tied to fps
>fps locked to 30 on PC
It's going to be years before someone makes working highfps mod for PC, isn't it?
Reminds me of 76s bug where if you looked down the higher fps would make you go 10000 mph
>try to think of hero ships I want to build in Starfield
>realize nothing falls within Starfield's allowable size range other than the Millenium Falcon
>realize that you can't even make the Millenium Falcon because there are no sufficiently off center nor round design options
It's all so tiresome.
i honestly ask what possible use you could have for that much size. you're pretty much solo in starfield, no? why would a solo guy, even a rich as frick one, bother with a ship much bigger than mando's little dinghy? han solo and chewie only used the millenium because it was a cargo ship and they were literally smugglers
>you're pretty much solo in starfield
No. You literally have a large grew in every single trailer, at one shot you had 5+ dudes sitting on computer terminals on one room alone.
Not once has there been any indication that you could go solo.
The first mod is going to remove whatever restrictions they put on ship building
>care a lot about fps
>still remains a console subhuman
Because they've been led a lie. GET next GEN when in reality it's not even close. I would be pretty pissed to
Can xcucks ever win? Even one time?
>muh frames!
meanwhile
>no starfield on ps5
i hope you enjoy your third tlou purchase, hows the multiplayer this time?
0 fps on the troonystation 5 brah
>yeah ummm you cant run our game at 60 fps because the engine just doesnt allow it or things like ladders and trains. thats why we had to put a hat modeled as a train on this npc's head and have him run around
>change an ini value from 0 to 1
>fps uncapped
>some random russian modder in his underwear fixes everything else for free
bethesda has been an incompetent moron company for 20 years
30 first person shooter?
b***h i play on PC it better not fricking be capped at 30 FPS
What is the actual fricking point of these "next gen systems" if that can't even do the bare minimum which is 60 fps.
People forgave zelda totk because it's stuck on decade old hardware, but what the frick is the excuse here that starfield can't do 60 fps on a series x or FF16 not doing a consistent 60 fps on the PS5. Gaming on console is so shit nowadays.
>what the frick is the excuse here that starfield can't do 60 fps on a series x
cpu limitations primarily, they did say it's locked for consistency but could go higher, doubt we'll ever see a patch though
>or FF16 not doing a consistent 60 fps on the PS5
the only info i could find on this is that squeenix is notoriously bad at optimizing their models after they're done in zbrush
considering the size of starfield, it seems like squeenix is the one with the skill issue
Series X could definitely play it at 60 but they're basically punishing X owners so it runs at parity withe S defeating the entire point of the X existence.
>2023
>consoles still can’t manage 60 fps
meanwhile, I’ve been pc gaming at 144 fps for years
>I’ve been playing ported console games for years
will starfield have radio?
No.
You have vinyls instead.
If it does, it might actually be a game I play for "years" like they say. I dont think it's likely though since Bethesda isnt Rockstar Games, EA, or Hideo Kojima.
no because then streamers wont be able to stream without getting banned
sauce?
If it did they would've advertised the frick out of it, no way they'd choose to reveal Adoring Fan 2.0 over space trucking radio
You vill play at 30 fps, and you vill be happy.
Yeah that shit is running on Creation Engine 2, which is just a mutant version of Creation Engine, which is just a mutant version of Gamebyro, and they've been using that shit since Oblivion because they're too fricking lazy and stupid to make a new engine. Bethesda games have always been a shit on consoles and they always will be.
>all these buygays ITT
/v/'s changed.
Can’t we go like 40 frames per or 45? Why is always 30 or 60. Do devs not understand that there are numbers in between 30 and 60? Over 28 of them in fact!
Human eyes can’t see past 30 frames a second, but if you wear glasses you can see 60. This is why nerds are always having meltdowns about needing 60. While normal humans don’t care.
because 40 and 45 frames looks shitty and choppy and DONT FRICKNING ARGUE WITH ME ABOUT THIS
you are choppy and shitty you moron, 45fps is leagues above 30fps and it's the framerate that actually feels smooth compared to slow as molasses 30fps
BOTTOM
FRICKING
LINE
60FPS should be minimum ANYTHING lower is unacceptable
because they don't want to optimize game for those frames, 10-15 additional fps is a lot of work for those hacks so they will just put the cap and cya
Because at 30 FPS you can sync with a 60 Hz display every second refresh. If you have 40 FPS it's not consistent. People have been asking for 40 FPS mostly because of the possibility to sync with 120 Hz displays though.
people will scream and cry but 40 fps on handhelds works surprisingly well, to the point id rather have 40 fps high settings vs 60 fps med settings. Steam Deck gta 5
>mfw i can do 60 fps anyways on a fricking steam deck and starfields frickin 30 on consoles
wew
denominations of average refresh rates in addition to being considered thresholds for average human perception. 30FPS is about the lower limit where a human can still be comfortable once they're used to it. Where 60 is about as high as it needs to be for a person to consider the experience as smooth.
Because most TVs run at 60hz thanks to the NTSC standard that we had for the past hundred years. If the ratio between frame rate and screen refresh rate isn't a whole integer, then motion will appear choppy.
VRR has been a thing for years.
Just an FYI, 60 fps has always been the standard. Was like this before 3D games existed.
I'm not taking away from people complaining about it not being 60 fps given that this generation is constantly cucking at 30 fps when they were hyping 60 for ages, but I don't really see it as a huge deal.
I stopped playing vidya at the end of the 360's lifespan, my first 60 fps experience was with Spiderman Miles Morales on te PS5 and I did notice the difference, how much fluid it was, but it wouldn't make or break a game.
I saw the first gameplay reveal of Starfield and I was beyond salty at Bethesda for taking so much time and resources developing what looked to be total shit instead of working on TES6, but this new trailer kinda turned me around.
I know Todd has made exagerated statements in the past that turned out to not be true but so far everything he's claimed was actually shown in the trailer.
The gameplay feels much more fluid and serviceable, the locations seem varied, the rpg system looks pretty in depth and maybe worth replaying the game for, customization seems insane.
The only thing that bugs me is that they're still forcing you into the main quest right out of the bat. I wish they would include an alternate start like in Skyrim mods so you don't have to slog through the begining of the game and perpetually ignore the main quest.
Can I get some actual opinions on the game and the trailer instead of sperging and repeating the "sweet little lies" memes?
You came back into video games and went straight for Miles Morales? Lmao just shut up u shiteating blind moron
I played it on my little brother's ps5 because it was the only thing he had that seemed fun to play
Must be sad being you
I dont play on transbox. If you still on console in 2023 you are literally poor.
BUT I HAVE A OPC AMD I MAKE 30K A YEAR I AM POOR AND I HAVE A PC SO YOU ARE WRONG AND INCORRECT AND FRICKING STUPID AS FRICK TOO
KILL SELF NOW
Will my 3060 be enough? I'm prepared to start saving up, if not.
Daily reminder that Crysis 2007 looks better, save up for that israelitephix card
The m2 ssd requirement says either they're properly managing VRAM or using directstorage which is basically the same thing so it should be fine
BUT I HAVE AM M.2 SSD SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT WHEN MY SYSTEM CANT RUN IT I CAN KILL YOU??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
FUVK YOU AND DIE DIRECT STORAGE IS GARBAGE VRAM ISTRASH THE ONLY THING THT MATTERS IS GPU POWER OF WHICH YOU HAVE NONE YOU FRICKING LOSER
long as you're not going for 2k4k you'll be fine
step:
1) refund that garbage and build pc
2) there are no step 2
Just a reminder that this game was the reason why Elder Scrolls 6 was placed on hold after it got announced the same year as Metroid Prime 4
Recommend more chill space games.
x3 + litcube mayhem
We got this information the day of the presentation.
Are these threads some for of tendie cope? The same kind of stuff happened with Elden Ring.
PSA: SNOYS and Squarenigers are spamming these threads now because FFXVI was esposed as a shitshow on par with the tortanic and having less than 30 FPS and stuttering all time.
THEY FEAR TODD!
some games look better at 30fps, like Xenoblade Chronicles games for example, have you seen them running at 60fps on emulators? they look cheap and shitty, 30 fps can look very good, other examples are Forza Horizon 2 and 3 on the OG Bone, 3 looks really bad at 60fps on PC
This is what consolegays have to tell themselves every single day.
>look better
the frick? how does a lower framerate " look better" are you moronic?
Its his way of coping.
For capturing video then yes that is true
>Gamers are mad
Vidya version of "republicans pounce" headlines
>30 FPS
A bit too much for a slide show
PC gaming doesn't matter clearly the game wasn't made for you
>homosexuals want frames instead of games.
>homosexuals literally going on about a meme war that isn't real
>homosexuals don't comprehend that consoles are dead and PC has already won.
>homosexuals don't seem to know nor comprehend that PC has the latest library of games
>homosexuals can't seem to recognize that ALL games are headed to PC, thereby rendering Console gaming a gay, fan boy meme that's ultimately DEAD
>muh gay Station exclusives
>GoW on PC
>RDR on PC
>See the trend, homosexual?
fricking this. who needs 20 fps, 15 fps is enough for anybody. you should be glad your getting 10 fps
I already 3D scanned my face and made a head model. Imported it into Skyrim. Will import it into Starfield so I can self insert and date hot alien women with big tiddies. Holy fuuuuuck! I literally don’t know why youd ever buy Bethesda shit on a console. You might as well be burning money
Starfield will be, if nothing else, the best sex game ever made
Todd-sama I kneel.
Who cares? Bethesda games never run at full FPS anyways
I hate when people write articles and use this butthole b***hy tone. I feel like that's half of video game articles at this point.
remember when every article used to go
>____
>and that's a good thing
gaming journalism deserves every shitty thing that happens to it
>gamers with a critical opinion on anything are bad consoomers
>bad consoomers are bad for business
>talk down at bad consoomers
>30fps
>playdough faces
>classic Bethesda 300,000 lines of dialuge (it's actually 10,000 lines in 30 languages)
>troony pronouns
Yeah I'm not buying this slop, sorry.
This game is barely gonna run let alone with any advanced mods.
Will Starfield run gud on my 3070?
snoy cope itt
If I can't have it then you can't enjoy it
Simple as
Defend the 30fps without going "b-but other game!", xbot, let's see you manage it
consolegays prefer graphix over framerate, so giving them 30 fps games make sense. anyone who wants to play a bethesda game at 60 fps is already going to play on pc
most sci-fi teevee shows and movies are shot between 24-30 fps for aesthetic purposes so the game follows suit
you should know something about movies, being the snoy you are
Movies shoot in 24 for that cinematic motion blur
Comsole games should be 30 minimum because of input lag
60 for PCs because input lag on mouse is much more noticable
>bespoke per-pixel and per-object motion blur doesn't exist in games
>b-but peecee
you a snoy falsegay or just autistic? i know that nintendo gays are autistic too but it's not like they have a horse in this race, so which is it?
Why can't the Series X run Starfield at 60fps? What is that pathetic console for if it can't deliver the 60fps you were promised?
>autism confirmed
can you now tell me what age you were diagnosed with autism? it's for a study
I may be autistic homosexual but the game should be played at 60fps frick off
i asked for the age you received your diagnosis, can i get that first?
wtf is wrong with you, why are you asking that seriously? frick off
>DUMB homosexuals going on about a fake console meme war
>Dumb homosexuals crying about "muh frames"
>Dumb homosexuals do not comprehend that in the end, what matters most are GAMES. NOT frames.
At least my autism runs at the intended framerate
But PC isn't going to have capped FPS, so the game is obviously being held back by your console, which incidentally is marketed as being the most powerful yet the big games aren't running any better than the Switch's biggest title.
it'll be 30 even if the game was released on PS5
But the current PS5 framerate is 0
limited FPS on PC would be funny
Adrian Rubinsky
not on my pc, chud
at least we can go visit that moon
I joined the pc master race with an overpriced, overpowered, riced out gaming rig a little over a year ago, and I still deliberately limit the framerate to 30 or 60 fps in the options to keep my case fans from blowing like jet turbines when the GPU thinks "unlimited" framerate means "jerk around between 200 to 2000 frames per second"
>30fps
>30
Thirty frames per second
12.1 teraflops
30fps
The power of the xbox is 30fps. Breaking i5 down using math. The xbox is wasting 0.4 terraflops per frame. What a waste of electric.
>reads one IT article once
lmaooo
this is so wrong it's painful anon
Rendering polygons is directly related to floating point operations on normalized vectors.
He maybe doesn't understand the intricate details and exact info, but it is abysmal usage of the hardware all things considered.
Oblivion worked on single core Pentium Prescotts and with 512MB of ram and a geforce fx 6600 estimated at around 380gigaflops single point precision.
>he doesn't have the exact info but let's make assertions as if we did
truly pathetic
It better be simulating dynamic trade for that entire 1000 planet galaxy in real time if its gonna be stuck at 30fps on 8 core computers with 16GB of ram and modern gpus.
name one (1) game that realistically simulates global space trade, I'll wait
Eve online.
EVE online
who do I believe...
No one not even (you)rself.
Not EVE online.
grand theft auto (1997)
Space Warlord Organ Trading Simulator
Eve. But you could easily run a basic spreadsheet with resources and prices and simulate a predetermined supply and demand structure for this. Its a game, it doesnt need to be more complicated than an approximate simulation.
That headline is somewhat insane given the game comes out on pc
I'm starting to think this game is gonna flop
The collectors edition is sold out everywhere
Tell me exactly why
so grow up and buy a PC already
It's capped on PC too. Remember how Bethesda games used to have a hard 60 fps cap for all their games? Now it's a hard 30 fps cap.
>Remember how Bethesda games used to have a hard 60 fps cap for all their games
How can we remember something that was never a thing? Are you an unironic schizo?
So you're not unaware that for Bethesda's games going back over 10 years they all had a 60fps cap and disabling that would break numerous mechanics of the game with the most notable one being physics?
Im playing it on the PC so frick this bs and kys homosexual op
>5 species of plants and 7 of animals on the whole planet
Man this is pathetic
Sorta like skyrim "cities" with 5 houses in them
that's clearly a smaller scale planet, an anon posted a screencap of a different one that had 45 animals and 60 plants
stay mad snoy
>45 animals and 60 plants
lol
There's roughly 8 million animals on earth and half a million plants. Bethesda is an abysmal failure of a company. I expect to see about 300,000 to 400,000 buildings in a capital city, not just 16. Worst dev ever.
>average bethesda hater
WTF THIS GAME DOESN'T EMULATE PARTICLE MOVEMENT LIKE IN REAL LIFE TRASH
>on earth
yeah, and how many planets on the galaxy are full of life like earth?
Earth has 8 million of animal species anon
This is pathetic
A smaller one would not have life at all.
What would happen with it if one of the plant species die out from something, what do you think?
Its the same "we studied data from NASA" showing footage of the protagonist walking similarly on different planets not affected by gravity, level of thought that they put in to their games
With that old ass game engine you'll be lucky of you get 15.
I hope my 5900x and 6700xt will be good enough for 1440p 60 FPS.
>5900x
more than enough. at least you're not short on CPU
Yeah, pretty sure CPU will be the limit here. I just hope it doesn't have the shitty scheduling issues of the newer unreal games.
Sorry chud but you'll have to settle for 40 fps and 720p. It's a very demanding game, you see.
Get comfy. Real comfy.
Why does it matter for a slow paced rpg. This isn’t CS or Valorant.
Bloodborne, a game where fps is arguably more important, ran at 30 fps and everyone thought it was a masterpiece.
30fps is fine.
Worse. it runs at 20-25 when there's so much action
PC gaming can't die because I can always play old games and indie games and emulated games
pc gaming can't die because it's making way too much money to die and it's the core of all games development
I'll be getting >60fps on my 7800X3D and 4090. Stay losing, Xbots.
it's okay when fromshit does it
I really wish they made this an Xbox exclusive, only so I could witness the unprecedented levels of sneed that would result on Ganker.
>Xbox exclusive
Well, it is. Xbox is not the console anymore, but the ecosystem consisting of the console, pc and mobile/cloud.
your streaming games from the xbox to do it. theres a difference. example being the two "pc" versions of forza
>forcing people to play at 30 fps
Pathetic. Even though i capped my FPS to 30. it's my own choice, as i care much about my GPU not getting too hot. But forcing people to play at 0 FPS is just like admitting you are hack who can't into optimization.
You can just crank the fans up on the GPU my dude. Literally no one caps to 30 over fricking heat.
I too scary to fail.
reminds me of that time dobson streamed himself playing oblivion and it was no joke like 10 fps because his system was fricking ancient.
still wonder where he went, he disappeared from the internet completely like he finally learned his lesson
>also random reminder scott, the vgcatz dude is ACTUALLY gone, like, previous suicide attempts, divorced, forced to draw aerith and leo furry porn to pay child support, uniroincally went on a coke and hookers binge he admitted on his own twitter account and now everythings gone. comic, site, patreon for vgcats porn
where is his body
30 frames is good enou-
>capped at
oh so consoles will get 15 fps
we should make bets on the download size
Well, on pc it is 125GB install size, so it depends on the compression.
It's gotta be a CPU thing right? Otherwise it would just have a performance mode. I'm playing it at over 60 on PC anyway so I don't care but just curious.
>and you're not happy about it
Journalists are getting REALLY brazen with telling you what to feel in the headline.
its a bot stealing/generating content. actually google that header annndddd...oh look, the same article by...a different name. huh.
infact, "adrian rubinsky starfield" doesnt come at all. adrian rubinsky is a character in an anime about space. its not a real person.
>gamers are mad
Who else would be mad about FPS in a game? Football fans?
Also I’m not surprised AI is being used to cut costs or fill quotas in news shit.
>with Todd commenting that “it’s often running way above that. Sometimes it’s 60
>sometimes
My guess is that since they're going with 4K anyway that it's "sometimes" less and actually hitting the GPU limitation. When they tried it at 1440p or lower, it was probably hitting 60 more but still not all the time because of CPU bottleneck.
I'm just hoping it's not too crazy with the CPU. I'll probably get 60 with my 5600x but if it has DLSS I'd like to go even higher to 80+ even if I have to turn own settings but that's pointless if my 5600x bottlenecks.
My previous CPU bottlenecked Fallout 4 but that is an old game by now.
Buy a PC moron
im fricked aren't i? all i wnat is 60 fps on low/medium 1440p, with maybe some settings like volumetric/ssr on high
This is just a guess but basing it on the recommended specs and how it's running on consoles, you may get 1440/60 with high settings, but with a few things turned down. Historically, there's always like one or two settings that rape FPS and don't destroy the visuals turning them off in a Bethesda game. I know Fallout 4 had like one thing I turned off and I went from 50 FPS to like 100.
As long as you don't mind compensating lack of vram with paged memory you should be fine.
He definitely doesn't have a 4 GB card. Speccy is outdated and stupid. Though 8 GB can be limited too, I know from my 2070. But usually dropping textures one notch seems fine in most games still.
>FPS is getting worse
>System requirements are getting higher
>File size is getting larger
GAMES WERE SUPPOSED TO GET BETTER, NOT WORSE. WHAT THE FRICK?! I HATE GLOBOhomosexual I HATE GLOBOhomosexual I HATE GLOBOhomosexual I HATE GLOBOHOMO.
>File size is getting larger
It [game] takes up all the space on your consoles hard drive you'll play it exclusively and be much more inclined to buy micro transactions
This is what happens when people dickride muh graphics and muh realism
it really is what it's always been, either mind blowing graphics or big game
however I think that we've capped when it comes to realistic graphics and developers should instead invest in art direction
some games have simple graphics but the art direction is so good that it looks better than hyper realistic ones
SHUT THE FRICK UP SNOY CHUD
IT'S A CREATIVE DECISION
ARRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH
Yuck, literally unplayable, are we still living in 2006?
>bespoke motion blur
Fricking hell, Xbox trannies, you really aren't going for this line, are you?
But it's bespoke motion blur by idsoft.
i tried looking this up and the closest i can find is a 15$ shader for UE5
>drops to 29.333333333 fps for 11 milliseconds
>turns on v-syn
ahh, silky smooth 15fps
>dev known for their pc modding scene and pc port first and foremost
>WAAAAH 30fps ON MY CONSOOOOOOOOOOLE
huh?
Imagine not having even a semi decent PC at this point.
Fricking morons. If you're of the PC master race, I could understand you laughing at the fact that Pee-Ass-5 and Ass-Box not being able to do 4K 60FPS. However, if you're an ASS-box or Pee-Ass 5 gay and making this argument about "not enough frames", then you're just a blithering fricking idiot. NO CONSOLE WILL DO 4K 60FPS in any new game, especially a "nextgen" open world game, at that. It is just not to going to happen, unless it's a remake from 15 years ago, or the game isn't demanding. No nextgen title can do this.
Fricking morons.
The problem is they were lied to by Snoyny and Microsoft that the consoles would be able to do that, and they believed it despite everyone telling them it wouldn't be the case.
>believing corporations
That anon is right to call them morons, brand loyalty is the dumbest shit imaginable.
4K was a mistake for consoles. Good thing I don’t have one, but who’s going to improve the standards if we’re going to keep 30fps as a standard?
>Imagine being one of the morons expecting consoles to do 4K 60fps for $500.
>literally dumber than a woman.
>Imagine being one of the morons expecting consoles to do 4K 60fps for $500.
It's possible to not believe something, yet still angered by the morons who lied in the first place, anon.
allow me to correct you
30fps at best
3090 chad reporting in. How's the game looking performance wise?
2060 chad reporting in, can still enjoy every game.
what now console trannies?
laughing at you in 7900xt
did you screenshot reaction image
So natural..
>30 fps on starfield
>still no release for baldurs gate 3 cause of the fricking series s
Stop DROPPING THE FRICKING BALL MICROSOFT
It's time Toddbros
does todd howard remind anyone else of a young terry A. davis
Thank God. I hate 60fps
>Deal with it.png
>take my money elsewhere
Dealt with. That attitude is more of a repellant than any technical details.
THE ABSOLUTE FRICKING STATE
I haven't been paying much attention to the press stuff but does anybody know how the RPG stuff is in starfield compared to like fallout 4 or earlier games by bethesda like 3 or oblivion?
it's much better than Fallout 4, that's for sure. They got more in depth with classes and there are so many specific perks. I'm esl and can't explain it well but you could watch some highlights of the Starfield Direct and you'll know immediately. Apparently Todd learned a lot of lessons from Fallout 4, starting with silent protag.
Don't worry guys. When the PS7 comes out, 60fps will be standard.
Start your contribution to the Kahnsole moyuh today!
>at $1200 for the system
>$150 per game
>muh framez
Have they mentioned how speech checks work in this game?
FO3 or NV style?
>those people in the office saying xbox series x was going to play games at 4k 120fps
Not gonna trick me into buying Skyrim again, having it in space isn't gonna work
No alien wife, no buy. Simple as.
Funny how xkeks were gloating about muh teraflops so hard and now they're immediately backpedaling and saying 30fps is fine
Sure buddy
I hope I can get at least 20 frames a second with my 960 and 6600k
It is how I experience all Bethesda games at launch so it is comfy in a way
>Gamers Are Mad
does starfield have anything other than humans in it, like why do a space game without alien babes
this is on the gamebyro engine, anon. its fricking insane anyone is even pretending its going to run well
man i seriously don't give a frick about what fps a game runs on, just give me a fun game (which i doubt starfield will be)
>Deal with it.
I will, by not paying for or wasting bandwidth on it.
>discord trannies start another thread for starchads to have some comfy discussion
>Game journalist having a cry about "gamers" being "toxic"
>Thinking people shitting are the discord trannies
TOP KEK, you braindead homosexual
Don't you know the game is capped at 30 fps because its Canon?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
WHO FRICKING CARES
PC CHADS RISE UP
imagine still believing Toddlies and buying Toddslop in 2023
I really do feel sorry for you
I’ll be playing the game on my $4500 PC, good luck console plebs
I don't care about specs that much, I just care if the games good.
Aiming is impossible with 30 fps - oh wait, it's for consoles? They have the computer aim for them, np.
Starfield would be so great if there were primitive tribal aliens you could find on random planets and kill them all with high tech weaponry. Unfortunately no one could put that in a game these days because mentally ill progressives would complain that it's racist.
I don't know why Snoys care Starfield so much
They have FF16 next week, they have Spider-Man 2 few months later, hell if they want to play Starfield they can play it on PC
Why so mad about this game?
Because snoys don't actually care about games, they only care about having all (preferably as exclusives) the supposedly GOTYs to feel superior to other people. Owning a Playstation is their personality and they know Starfield and TOTK matters 10 times more than FF (which will be multiplat eventually anyway and probably won't perform too well) or Spiderman 1.5.
They can't play the two major releases this year without admitting other platforms have games and they are seething when someone tells them "just buy a PC/Xbox/Switch if you want to play these games" - something they kept parroting in the last decade when something came out as PS only.
They are especially salty about the Sony showcase which proved what anyone with half a brain knew: they will probably won't get meaningful new first parties for years. PS games took extremely long to develop, even in the PS4 gen and if you look at the release cycles of their studios, nobody but Insomniac can do work in a few years. Meanwhile it looks like Xbox is finally getting their schedule in order so they now need to invent new ways to try to feel superior.
KEK
Anyone hyped for this game is a stupid little b***h!
Why is it a big deal?
so what kind of CPU will we need to run this @60 stable ? SeriesX cpu is around Ryzen 7 3700 , series x cpu runs @3.5 ghz when multitreading , and tech wizs here got any idea what would give us enough cpu performance to double this ?
https://vintologi.com/threads/pc-vs-console-in-2023.1371/#post-7799
5800x3d or 12700k should offer around double the xbox series x performance.
I wasn't going to play it anyway. Space games are boring.
is there any issue with capping your FPS in a game below your monitor's refresh rate?
>rubinsky
If I wanted to do something about them, would I have your support?
Todd should pay you for every thread. I'd say 1 atom from fo76's cash shop would do.
the eye cant see past 24 frames anyway.
So you have a 6 frame buffer to make sure its synched up. That should be fine unless you have autism.
You dont have autism... right?
30 fps is actually better it's like how movies at 23 fps. It's for a better viewing experience stylistically since space is a vacuum you wont have perfect vision
Nobody has an Xbox. Everyone is getting this on the pc
Can't wait to install an ENB and run the game at 4k.
>ENB and run the game at 4k.
You will have to wait until 2050 for that
24 fps is good enough for marvel movies and it’s good enough for me. 30 fps is a nice little bonus.
moronic Black person seething, PC will always be superior since Modders patch the failure Bethesda always does. PC x Creative Engine just works.
>new gays dont remember the YEARS of 360 and PS cope about framerate locks
I never care about fps but if this works even a little better than totk it should be nice and acceptable