Emil Pagliarulo
@Dezinuh
Studio Design Director –Bethesda Game
https://twitter.com/Dezinuh/status/1734978421736738978?t=fLC4zgpKzUC9sxhZBr4hyw&s=19
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Starfield Designer says: "If you can't make a game, you're not allowed to complain that it sucks."
So it was a team decision not to make the game fun in any way? Good job, guys!
>THINK OF THE PEOPLE MAKING THE GAME!!!!1111oneone
>WE WORKED REALLY SUPER DUPER HARD ON THIS SO YOU CANT SAY YOU DIDNT LIKE IT!!!!!!111oneone
These people seem to think that gaming is a cult and that their players are "loyal followers".
Who the frick does that self entitled douche thinks he is? That idiot needs to understand that he is just selling a product, and that if people don't like that product they are free to not consume/buy it. He is not entitled to sales of his product.
And all this whining about why the product is what it is doesn't matter. If I think it's unintestering crap then it's uninstering crap. If I'm not interested in your crap then I won't buy it.
>These people seem to think that gaming is a cult and that their players are "loyal followers".
They're not wrong.
its true
>These people seem to think that gaming is a cult and that their players are "loyal followers".
To be fair, it kinda is. The thing is, the spell is broken, at least in Bethesda's case.
Speak for yourself, I've never given two shits about "brand loyalty".
Well we're not talking about you, we're talking about normies and Bethesdagays in general.
He literally says that you can complain about what sucks though you illiterate frick, he just says nobody wanted it to be bad and a lot of people probably worked hard to even get it in whatever state it's in. A completely reasonable sentiment.
Nobody sets out to make a bad game. What he's saying is pointless.
>a lot of designers production managers and engineers worked to bring this new model of car to market
>yeah it's a piece of shit and they failed to deliver a worthwhile product on any merit but they tried hard so maybe don't be mean
Go frick yourself.
Crazy how he's trying to hide behind the rest of his team despite being the main reason for Starfield's largest issues.
Jesus fricking christ. The mental gymnastics are off the charts.
>My game flopped? Must be gamers fault for not eating the slop
Whoops not allowed to say that 🙂
Inb israeli.
He's clearly got a pastaBlack person name but claims to have irish ancestry which he's extremely proud of the point he puts random irish shit in Fallout
you mean like calling a character "Cait" but then saying it wrong and pronouncing it "Kate"?
What a long and didn't read mighty cope
Whoa, that's a lotta words
Too bad I ain't readin em
so what is he even saying
that making games is hard?
Making games are hard and you don't get it and also he's not to blame because he has a team but theyre not to blame how dare you blame them! but also he's not to blame because he has a team, but don't blame them! Also you're just an entitled gamer who doesn't like what I made so you're a bad person if you voice that opinion but you can totally voice your opinion and have every right to but also you're a bad person if you do because it would make my team sad don't blame them for the game being bad also it's not my fault as the director that the game is bad because I have a team, but don't blame them even though I just did.
>"WELL YOU MAKE IT THEN"
-every failed artist
Thats a lot of characters to say absolutely nothing and to shit on people that speculate why Starfield is the biggest piece of dogshit released in some years
Pitiful. This man made Thief II's Life of the Party.
I read this whole thing as "I know your pissed but I did my job but the game went off the fricking rails wrecked and we kinda had to sell you the pieces please understand"
Nah, game sales stagnated so Bethesda is in full damage control trying to shut down the "haters and trolls" because turns out that not any press is good press
could be the case we're at a point where the non-professionals are better than professionals.
maybe emil and people like him can't justify their jobs/salaries
>
is literally this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laf05dtqIJw
>do, do do do do, do, *gives up*
makes it even better
t. can play One
Literally telling people
>don't question just consume
This homie has a well documented history of completely ignoring any criticism. Starfield was originally going to have a voiced protagonist thanks to his brainrot.
SEEMS LIKE HE'S UPSET!
MAYBE HE SHOULD RETIRE
lmaoing @ your life emil
tight and hairless mesugaki dicky
If I play a similar title that is about the same thing but it's mostly better in evcry way am I not allowed to compare since I don't make games?
Fartfield lol
Shartfield
Starfield? More like, Sirfailed!
Based. People who can't create anything should keep their mouths shut.
>Don't think for yourself, just consume everything that we shit out and be grateful for it
i disagree, this thinking is reductive. a flaw in a product is an objectively real thing (what qualifies as a flaw is not), regardless of who the producer and consumer is.
i would not trust my life to a faulty parachute simply because i cannot make one myself.
It's scared.
I understand that every game needs a lot of effort to make, that it needs models, textures, code, music, and other very important and hard things and I appreciate the effort of every designer that spends a part of his precious life doing all that hard work. But you're not one of them, Emil. You just write down whatever nonsensical plot or mechanic comes to your head and tell people to implement it. Stop pretending to be a hard worker.
Effort isn't inherently valuable.
>quickly whips up a tetris clone
YOUR moronic BUGGY SPACE GAME SUCKS YOU FRICKING homosexual
>All Chinese responders
You are not clever, wumao
TGAs (Sponosred by West Taiwan)
Every major category was awarded to a CCP-backed game publishing entity.
Tencent is also on the awards advisory panel for every mainstream Western awards production:
https://thegameawards.com/about
This effectively invalidates all game awards as genuine, moving forward:
>Baldur’s Gate 3
>Game of the Year
>Best Peformance
>RPG
>Multiplayer (actually a co-op game)
>Community "Support" (???)
>Players’ Voice
Tencent-Larian
https://ie.globaldatabase.com/company/larian-group-holdings-limited
>Alan Wake 2
>Best Game Direction
>Narrative
>Art Direction
https://investors.remedygames.com/announcements/remedy-entertainment-plc-tencent-holdings-limiteds-shareholding-in-remedy-has-gone-above-the-5-percent-threshold/
https://gameworldobserver.com/2022/11/28/tencent-increases-its-stake-in-remedy-entertainment
>Honkai Star Rail
>Best Mobile
https://www.world-today-news.com/mihoyo-officially-joins-the-chinese-communist-party-how-does-it-affect-genshin-impact-and-other-games/
>Armored Core VI
>Action
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Business-deals/Tencent-to-invest-264m-in-Japanese-publisher-Kadokawa
>Valorant
>Esports
https://web.archive.org/web/20230607222908/https://kotaku.com/valorant-twitch-streamers-are-gaming-the-system-with-24-1843048097
>Pity awards to non-Tencent titles
>Aonuma rushed off stage
Nintendo was only allowed a little bit of spotlight, given Tencent also owns their entire West Taiwan operation:
https://www.tencent.com/en-us/articles/2200934.html
>be successful studio
>china wants to invest in successful studios
more zog attempts to start flames between midwit americans and the chinese ‘menace’ as they donate half their income towards african cobalt slave mining and iron dome israelite missiles against rock throwers
>starts investing
>they all start failing
>Sony barely holding on
>tries propping it up on fake hype and funny money
looking forward to the collapse and tears
frick off starshit schizo
your game is dead
Starfield is 10th on the list. Can you find BG3 there, wumao chang?
>for publishers in the digital leader panel
Larian likely isn't one of these
what are you even saying you deranged freak? what kind of cope is this? do you understand that starfield has only 5k players? get it into your dumb fricking head. moronic schizo freak.
>5k players
On steam. You seem to think that steam account for a big percentage of total players, which is incorrect.
Compeltely wrong deranged, desperate cope. Pc and consoles (notice: consoles) have parity in markets. So even with your cope it has 10k players max. Ok, you won.
But it isnt even true because game preformed much worse on consoles, it fallen out of top 10 played on xbox as early as 1st month after release.
all of this can be easily vertified.
Then why is starfield in top 10 highest earning games of 2023 yet BG3 is nowhere to be found? Very curious.
read top of the cope image you posted as (evidence) of your insane claims, all you are saying simply isnt true. more so over, whole statistics which is not backed up by facts it just a guess work. steam numbers are not guess work. they are factual, undisputable data.
your deranged and desperate attempts at arguing obvious facts is why people call you schizo. They are like "look at this scientific document it says men cannot be women" and you are like "haha heres this obscure article by gender studies freak finnanced by israelites it proves you wrong!". frick of with your fake narratives, give me facts.
>steam numbers are not guess work. they are factual, undisputable data.
Not when tencent bots are involved, zhang
so starfield has potentially even less actual players?
No, because MS isn't using tencent bots to shill their game, unlike a certain other company
sorry schizo but even if 100% of bg3's player numbers were bots it doesn't change that starfield's player numbers are pathetic.
>he still think this screenshot magically prove that the bot campaign is real.
its not potentially when its this obvious
why would microsoft need to pay for bots when they have the most pervasive OS on earth to do it for them? moron.
do you have proof that these bots exists? or are they only in your feeble mind?
lmao what kind of sad cope is this? nobody fricking owns an xbox series x/s
Larian is a private company, they are not traded on the stock markets so they never released sales numbers you moron. That's why they are not on there.
Jesus Elden Ring had some legs
Valheim did over 11 million in sales but won't show up here because it's a private company. Valheim, Lethal company, and Deep rock galactic have moved more copies this year then BG3 will do in 10. (No I'm not kidding either)
Shartfield lost.
why shill for bethesda of all game studios?
I mean genuinely why waste so much time for such an obviously shit studio?
>why shill for bethesda of all game studios?
My guess is that he is one of the pajeets they outsourced all the development to so he feels obligated to defend his own work
Does it make you feel irrelevant that China mogs your economy despite your huge headstart? Must be pretty demoralizing for a self proclaimed communist country to be so much better at capitalism than you.
Yeah dude, everything, from the millions of sales, to all the great review scores, to the huge steam playerbase, the TGA and golden joystick win and all the buzz and hype online(Youtube, Twitch Reddit etc etc) it's all a Tencent conspiracy because they have less than a third in stock of the company (with Swen owning all the rest and actuallg making all the decisions ) you fricking schizo spammer.
If Tencent is so powerfull to control every single gaming awards, every single reviewer, youtube twitch and steam why didn't they push a game they actually owned(and not Hurr durr they have a little bit of stock they have some stock/invenstememt in nearly every major game company including Nintendo and your beloved Microsoft you Bethesda schizo shill) or made themselves at the forefront instead of BG3?
Also for your conspiracy to be true literally thousands of conspirators would have to be involved from gaming journalists to steam and twitch and youtube executives to TGA organizers which means it should be easy for you to fund actual proof or whistleblowers and yet you have none aside from schizo ramblings.
Literally rope yourself Fallout 3/Tencent spammer, todd is mot going to frick you.
ironic since they can't make a game either it seems
This guy looks sick and dying, how many jabs did he get?
>have a miserable flight
>seats uncomfortable
>no tv
>no music
>air conditioning doesnt work
>service is shit
>snacks are shit
>they lost and/or damaged your luggage
emil:
>hey, just be happy, grateful, and amazed that you were able to fly at all. you have no idea how hard it was to make that miracle happen
fricking moron.
sounds like cope
I work in games and Starfield is completely shit. The company should be embarrassed about releasing a game in that state.
This why they pushed it forward but it wasn't enough. God knows how long they really worked on it, just like 343 and Halo Infinite. 2-3 years max.
I have worked in game dev and I can tell you you are allowed to complain.
Your complaints may or may not have substance but Emil is a pussy.
Software dev can be hard but at the end of the day if you make a game that does not please the customer you've made a shitty game.
Lol I made that image back in like 2009, the year when I peaked...
This stuff always backfires because...i won't say it because there's shills around
Get fricked and open your arse
bethesda was always mediocre but competent enough to trick goyim into playing their shit for years of playtime in big empty worlds with half ass npc questlines
this goes back to daggerfall
they were never good
bethesda was cool because no one was really making open world rpgs at the time unless it was an mmo, because everyone wanted that world of warcraft money. then everyone realized that they couldn't get that world of warcraft money so they started making open world games with rpg elements instead so now bethesda games are no longer special. people have been playing open world games with rpg elements for 10 years. it's currently the game that keeps being recycled like the brown and bloom shooters in the 360/ps3 days and it's even worse because every live service game on console wants to use that same model too so there's no end in sight.
bethesda got fricked because they're no longer unique. actual good devs and good games are being made in the genre. that's why bethesda games were known as "bethesda games", they were the only ones making them.
Their open worlds are the best in the industry by far, but they always forget to fill them with something meaningful.
Also they should get the guy who wrote morrowind back, it's the only game where world and story don't suck ass
>Their open worlds are the best in the industry by far
No? This isn't the 2010s anymore. Plenty of studios have came out with open world games that have great open worlds and actually good gameplay, something Beth can't figure out still
Many have tried and failed.
Bioware
Obsidian
CDProjekt
They have all come for the king and been found wanting . Oddly enough the biggest threat to Bethesda is Microsoft. Their forced implementation of woke shit is the thing that will kill Bethesda.
>Their forced implementation of woke shit is the thing that will kill Bethesda
this is so fricking moronic. the problem with starfield is that it was painfully boring, that it couldn't match those older great bethesda open worlds you were talking about.
the fact that there was a single input at the beginning of the game asking about pronouns is hardly what ruined all of the shallow-ass ensuing gameplay
Name one interesting NPC only conversation. There is no Argument over whether there slices of bread are a sandwich. Nobody wandering around singing about cliff racers flying so high.
Every conversation you over hear is boring and in many cases serves no purpose other than to signal support for woke shit.
The game is boring because of woke shit.
>Name one interesting NPC only conversation
i can't, i already said the game was painfully boring lol. honestly i stopped playing about 8 hours in because of the terrible fast travel system, completely empty worlds, the fact that many mission took place in fricking caves and office buildings (good thing it's totally a space game though amirite), and the garbage writing among other things. but there really weren't any moments that struck me as forced or annoying in the way you're referencing. there's an infinite number of ways to write boring shit without it being woke
You said it was boring but lack the understanding of why. It was allowed to have no personality other than virtue signalling.
There was no Heimskr adding to the world building with his silly ranting. There was no Argonian telling jokes about Khakit cooking. It was all functional endorsement of woke ideologies.
They focused on what they felt was important.
again, much of the game was boring because it consisted of shit like walking into an office to pick up a mission that'll just have you walking into another office to relay some message, then being sent back to relay the response, etc. that's shitty and boring gameplay no matter what lens you view it through. i don't see how shoehorning some racist joke in there would have made a questline like that any more memorable or engaging.
i don't doubt that there was/is corpo pressure to keep things sanitized, but there's a million ways to make fun and memorable characters while still steering completely clear of anything controversial, they just didn't accomplish that. i have a hard time believing it's due to my "lack of understanding" that i didn't find the world interesting on any level
>Many have tried and failed.
>Bioware
>Obsidian
>CDProjekt
>They have all come for the king and been found wanting
Take your meds
Bioware hadn't made a decent game in over a decade.
Obsidian's latest offerings are shovelware for the Microsoft's game scheme.
CDProjekts last game made 76 look silky smooth.
The field is littered with pretenders who thought they were contenders.
>even more people hating on emil now
you just can't win can you rolstongay?
I just realized the reason why rolstongay labels everybody who disagrees with him as the same person
He's the only unironic Emil Pagliarulo fan on earth, so he copes with his loneliness by projecting It on other people
He won't be fired.
He will still lead designer for TES6
TES6 will still be crazy successful
Seethe
>TES6
Don't remind me. I was already fatigued by Slopfield. A game fully set in Africa means instead of 90% black it will be 100%.
>He won't be fired.
>He will still lead designer for TES6
True, phil is too pussy to fire him.
>TES6 will still be crazy successful
It will but it'll kill the last holdouts hanging onto hope for bethesda.
Ebert's law. No one needs to go to culinary school to know what tastes good.
Emil deserves to be shit on regardless of his work.
Emilsisters...
Pretty censored down article title, yes he described it as boring but his core point was "fricking trash"
The Xbox Series 2023 big exclusive btw.
that's cool and all but still not buying
Thats the mark of a delusional butthole. Since when arent customers allowed to complain about the dubious quality of the product they ve bought. Seriously stop giving these asshats money. They clearly dont deserve it anyway
Here is a game, Emil. If a get a 4, You suck my dick but if not then Mods WILL ban me from Ganker.
You can play this game too, Emil. just roll
See. Making a game is easy. now shut up b***h and suck the dick.
Well It's fricking over.
I'm sure he doesn't even realize he's part of the problem.
Modern AI should instantly ban him for disrespecting twitter character limit
So the designer:
>didn't make a game
>couldn't complain or give feedback
Yeah, this system is fricked from top to bottom.
>You're not a car mechanic so you can't complain about a car that has a flat tire, misaligned wheels and uncomfortable chairs
>You're not an electrician so you can't complain about the electricity not working 100% of the time because of bad wiring
"People" who exhibit this kind of delusional behaviour should be lobotomised at childhood
I like that. Starfield's bad reception must be hard on him and Toddlet. Let's hope it's a wake-up call for Bethesda.
TES6 was already in production during the BLM riots. It will definitely shape the game.
Capitalism will autocorrect, as it always does. That's why all these devs are commies, they love the idea of having state funded and mandated entertainment that people are forced to consume. They hate that they have to actually try to make something good.
>1/15
Dude also can't write or do the sensible thing and put his wall of text on an appropriate venue.
i find it amazing how they are still putting up this act with AI on the horizon
i dont need to know how the sausage is made to know its bad
>great games are played, not made
>PLAYERS NEED TO STOP COMPLAINING, THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW GAMES ARE MADE!
I hate this argument
>if you can't cook you can't complain the food tastes bad
>if you can't make music you can't complain the music sucks
Some things are just shit, regardless of experience.
UHM SWEATY YOU HAVENT HAD SEX WITH BEARS SO HOW CAN YOU KNOW IT IS BAD TO HAVE SEX WITH ANIMALS WHO CANT CONSENT???
That office has an air supply of nothing but high grade copium
That's not what he's saying at all. He's basically saying most of you morons don't have a fricking clue about game design or what video games actually are.
Which is true. Most of you kids are dumb as frick.
>reveal trailer was shit on for looking too generic and too much like No Man’s Sky
>announcement that you can’t seamlessly land your ship on a planet instantly disappoints people
>game comes out, gets 6/10s and 7/10s from major game review publications
>gets massive negative reviews on Steam to the point that overall reception is mixed (67%)
>active playerbase drops below Skyrim
>modders are publicly quitting saying the game is shit
>Bethesda hired PR people to write ChatGPT-tier damage control responses to negative reviews on Steam
>didn’t get nominated for a single game award
>Emil Pagliarulo created a 15 tweet thread to run damage control
What’s next?
>What’s next?
Emil transitions?
>Release a DLC with aliens in it
>you can't play as the aliens
>What’s next?
nothing changes and tes6 is crap
don't forget
>patch skyrims so all mods become incompatible
>push paid mods AGAIN
>already planting the seeds for their own "engoodening"
That was really weird. They have the same systems in skyrim and fallout 4 but they never even bothered to give fo4 its anniversary edition equivalent or push a similar update. Not to mention all they did was add 2 Elianoraslop houses and call it a day after not updating creation club at all since anniversary edition
Nobody cares. AAA video games are corporate soulless products made by cutthroat greedy companies, they're not made by auteurs with a vision. If the game is bad it's bad and the devs should be called out for outsourcing so much crap.
Watch me make a game then.
Tod's swansong must really suck if all those onions devs are coming forward now
Emil doesnt really get the right to complain when the pisspoor writing of Bethesda's games is clearly him straining himself and his low IQ. He needs to realize he cant write and then hire a team of writers so that a bethesda game can have decent writing for once that isnt shat all over by his stink of idiocy.
>The struggle to bring a vision to life with constantly shifting resources.
well it's all for naught if your vision is shit and malformed like starfield was
Emil is a homosexual hack. Starfield is what happens when he has to apply his room temperature IQ to writing a story with no existing lore, characters, or fanbase to exploit. Glad he recognizes he's a failure.
>moron doesn't believe in design documents
>needs fifteen (15) tweets to say one (1) thing
why do people suddenly have standards when it comes to bethesda games, wild
FO and TES games can coast on nostalgia to the point where you can release anything and it'll do well. As a new property, Starfield had to actually be passable- if not good- to stand out. But it sucks wiener, so even normies are upset.
Guy is a complete hack. It’s incredible how a writer with so little talent has enjoyed success for so long without being ousted by investors
>Emil "keep it simple keep it stupid" Spaghetti
frick this stupid Black person
lol PatricianTV really got to him with the video
My thoughts exactly. That video essay really boiled him.
>That video essay really boiled him
If you read between the lines, he's responding specifically to the whole "design document" issue that came to light. That's what his whole meltdown saying how everyone "disconnected from development realities" is about, he feels CALLED OUT because now everyone knows why FO4 and Starfield feel like directionless themeparks with no rhyme or reason.
>outing yourself as a zoomer who watching 8 hour long youtube "video essays" LOL your generation is disgusting
good morning saar
If anything it was that one by that one gay with the ball in thumbnails. It was going viral and poppping up on the front of various subreddits. I know you live in a Ganker bubble but no one even knows who the frick you are talking about outside this site. Just compared the views on the two videos, about 500k compared to 3.5 million. I think it's clear which one he is likely responding to.
>you can't make a game
Neither can you. kinda ironic no?
Why emil cannot put even a portion of effort he spends on writing his copes into the writing in games?
He's a genuine midwit (politically correct term for functioning borderline moron). Everyone latched on the "design document" talking point over the week, but nobody seems to give much attention that Starfield's setting is haphazardly plagiarized entirely from Firefly, only now it's moronic and nonsensical and means nothing because Emil has only basic surface level 105 IQ ability to understand things
I don't think he's even seen the show or the movie.
>Spacefaring without alien presence
>Earth is destroyed
>The prim and proper UN faction (Alliance)
>The cowboys in space faction (Browncoats)
>They were at war
>Third antagonist CRAZY faction (Varuun)
>Prim and proper faction engaged in unethical experiments during the war
The name "Londinium" for one of the city planets is lifted DIRECTLY from the show. If Emil didn't watch it, he certainly just ripped the elements from the Firefly Wikipedia page with minimal changes. Bethesda is not getting sued for plagiarism only because Joss Whedon doesn't have any pull anymore.
SPEECH [25] Making video games is hard. [FAILED]
I'd argue that 90% of you homosexuals can write a better space exploration story in 5 minutes.
Emila is just a fart huffer. Also he used to be a fat self professed atheist lol
I like how he leads with “you dont know how to make a twinkie” and it becomes “therefore you must like twinkies since you dont understand them” lmao what a clueless moron
i dont need to know how to bake a cake to enjoy its flavor. this guy is just a stupid c**t
He's not wrong in that the consumer doesn't have insight into game development decisions, he just comes off as a b***h since he pretends games are made purely for the consumers' enjoyment. Games are made to make money and when you sell slop for money it's going to get shit on, rightfully so.
>He's not wrong in that the consumer doesn't have insight into game development decisions,
In the specific case of Bethesda Game Studios he's wrong, because he spoke in detail about the game development decisions he made as design and writing leads on Skyrim and Fallout 4 at GDC 2016.
>Starfield Designer says: "If you can't make a game, you're not allowed to complain that it sucks."
Yes I am.
They didn't make the game. Indians did.
Shartfield.
why two threads for this allowed but none for twitch?
anyway like I ALREADY SAID, I am a dev. your argument isn't an argument. your game sucks. (considering you are AAA)
Twitch isnt about video games
more about video games than twitter and reddit...
well whatever im not getting another "off topic" vaccation so ill just....not talk about it because I don't care what /misc/ think and thats the only other place to talk about it.
if you're not a surgeon you can't complain if yours brings out a chainsaw, have fun
I am the highest authority when it comes to my enjoyment.
>"If you can't make a game, you're not allowed to complain that it sucks."
So I guess none of these woke liberals are allowed to criticize conservative presidents or any politicians they hate since they've never been one?
>Yo chef this plate of undercooked, oversalted plain dough sucks dick, wtf man?
>Well, if you cannot cook a ze 5-star gránd meal then shut ze frick up!!!
>spend more effort writing damage control on twitter than you spend writing the main story
You only hear these excuses from people who make shit games, it's really funny
You never go full JSawyer.
Emil went full JSawyer.
They can’t make a game either.
Just because someone spent a lot of effort to push a turd out of their ass and drop it on my plate doesn't mean I am not gonna punch them in the face.
>1/15
That guy is in his 40's and hes malding like a twitter troon
The apotheosis of terminally STEMbrained "making stuff is hard brooooo" rhetoric.
>Reeeee making cars is hard okay stop criticizing my car for lacking features that other cars have had for decadessss aaaaaa
PAGLIARULO L'HAI PRESO IN CULO
>literally the game's director
>literally directs everyone else how to make the game
>thinks it's not fair to criticize him because of the other people working on the game
>think it's not fair to criticize them either because they work hard doing what they're told
>also thinks you can't criticize without being a developer
take the L, moron
such a low IQ take
but not shocking coming from a leftist quota hired homosexual
its even more over for tes 6
jesus christ
if that moron is part of it, then yes, very much so.
>Verification not required.
The fact that Bethesda seems to be internally reacting to this so badly, and Microsoft's entire year of pretty much first party flops, likely means that someone higher up has come in and possibly kicked them in the stomach and said "You need to start changing."
Emil's meltdown very well may be because suits have told him that they need to have a design document for TES6 now and he's kicking and screaming about it.
Right, and if people can't fit a pipe they can't complain about pipes leaking, and if they can't cook they can't complain about a shitty meal at a restaurant, etc. Frick you.
Bethesda as a cook:
>takes a fat fricking shit on your plate
>tells you to not complain and eat it up
Damn
and when you point out it tastes like literal shit, their response is - you're enjoying it wrong, bro.
holy fricking kek at this company, everything really went to shit after m$ acquisition.
>Bethesda fan unironically eats shit
>puts spices (mods) to fix the taste
>it's still the most horrid shit they have ever tasted
how are mods by the way?
last I checked no one is fricking even interested in putting mods for this shit.
>mod
Even Todd's most loyal mod slaves betrayed him.
I already mentioned this before but games like Cyberpunk 2077 despite being broken and unplayable at launch still has some fun moments.
Shartfield is completely uninspired boring tripe to the very core that not even mods would save. Fallout 4 was already early signs of modders getting fed up with Bethesda's crap.
just stop, homosexual. dildopunk is garbage too
>everything really went to shit after m$ acquisition.
They've been like this for years though
Yeah, people have said for a long time, that every game post-morrowind is worse than the previous entry, and now the decline has gotten so bad even normies are noticing it lmao.
Bethesda seem pretty affected by the lack of enthusiasm for Starfield. Devs openly sperging out, all the veterans leaving, commenting on Steam reviews etc. Will Todd wake up in time?
True to some extent.
If you're no expert in the field you have no right to say "ACHCHUALLY you should have done it THIS way" as, due to your lack of experience in it, what you're suggesting might be (and likely will be) a bad solution, it's as if a regular Joe who knows jack about cars start preaching on how you should modify it, you'd just look like a fool who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Conversely, you don't need an expert to see if something doesn't work, so just saying if something sucks even if you're not familiar with the ins and outs of the field is acceptable: if your mechanic fricked up your car and now it runs like shit it's perfectly normal to point that out, just don't go telling him HOW he should go about fixing it if you know frick all about car engineering.
from what I gathered (reading and listening to not moronic people), they weren't telling how bethesda should fix the game (of course there are morons who do that), but most were just pointing out parts that need fixing or should have been redone in design phase, because they are fundamentally flawed.
Reasonable
Nice breasts, thank you for not posting AI trash too
>Nice breasts
she has a gigantic horsewiener btw
Even better!
>If you're no expert in the field you have no right to say "ACHCHUALLY you should have done it THIS way"
Yes I can, and I will
if you're talking about game design then you don't need to be an expert.
anyone can realise that you probably shouldn't have made a punch of empty worlds with copy pasted dungeon layouts that you have to run to.
something like programming you need some expertise in to talk about however.
Hard disagree. People take the same attitude towards writing as well. Just because they are not technical fields people FEEL like they can understand things like writing or game design without ever doing them. It's not impossible for people to be right about things related to these kinds of non-technical fields but thinking you know as much about writing as someone whose written 20 books is laughably narcissistic. Same is true for game design. While any Joe-Schmo might be able to tell you using procedural design for a game about exploration was a bad idea, they can't tell you how to actually design a planet that's interesting to explore. With non-technical fields it becomes harder to prove one is an expert in something but I think success often proves when someone knows what they are doing ie my example of someone successfully publishing 20 books shows they know SOMETHING about writing. Expertise in these fields still exists even if it's hard to quantify than something like skill at coding.
The issue is lots of people that do know what they are talking about have criticized the game and why it is how it is so he's arguing with a convenient strawman.
Starfield might well be the biggest flop in videogame history
>1/15
Phil Spencer, Todd Howard, and Emil are perfect examples of what's wrong with the collapsed Xbox brand.
Keep in mind that they've never received so much backlash on normie social media sites. At least not for a technically working product (FO76).
It used to be the minority that complained about casualization and bad writing, but now that became the majority.
I hate the fact that talentless, unlikeable c**ts like him get to work at big companies and make a lot of money despite fricking up constantly.
>make a simple pong clone
>can now criticize starfield all i want
get fricked
>boil an egg
>can criticize 3 michelin star chefs and their dishes
get on my level.
Why should I care what a Starfield designer says? They can't make games either
Game design is difficult but so are many other professions. You should never be applauded for doing something poorly.
Respecting other professionals in your profession just because you both do the same thing is stupid. Not everyone deserves respect and no one is entitled to it. I respect when devs own up to their bad design choices. Bethesda does not do that. They will defend everything they do, lie, deflect, or say the bugs are part of the experience. It's boring on purpose bros.
>Game design is difficult
it really isn't. relative to reality, to things that are actually difficult to accomplish and require tangible effort, it's pretty easy. It's simple as frick. You're basically an ideas guy lmao fricking hell so difficult. Get a grip on reality bro
They designed a space game. It's got rockets in it. They had to design rockets. Telling me rocket science isn't difficult?
He's right thought. Total consoomer extermination. Normalize shaming consoomers.
Guess I can't buy it either
Shame
I'm sure your fellow developers will bring the profits
>The game we made sucks, but you don't know how it's made and why it sucks the way it does, stop criticizing and start consooming.
They also randomly updated Skyrim so it would break a frickload of mods
I sense bitterness in that action
>"If you can't make a game, you're not allowed to complain that it sucks.
so I finally read it through, and this is not what is saying.
Life of the Party is the best mission in the Thief series and Emil can do no wrong since he made that masterpiece.
Isn't the tldr just starfield sucks but don't blame me specifically.
>"If you can't make a game, you're not allowed to complain that it sucks"
>quote tweets explicitly say you can complain all you want and they expect you to do so
>tweets mostly just moaning about how people talk about where development went wrong without any experience to back it up.
don't get me wrong, the tweets are passive aggressive crying about the criticism his work received but these threads are getting increasingly lazy about what is actually said. There is enough to laugh at without making shit up.
Bethesda just isn't getting a free-pass anymore for their BS.
Everyone is making big open world games now.
Not sure who thought making Starfield bland and boring on purpose was a good idea.
rumor has it everything started with a sticky note that read - "1000 planets"
I dunno if people saw, but Phil Spencer has a lot of playtime on Starfield.
The fact he thinks its a good game should be enough to get him fired. No wonder Xbox is dying.
Phil seems chill, but holy shit he killed Xbox.
he's xbox face, he has to shill xbox exclusives.
i wouldn't be surprised if he just left it running on main menu screen kek.
>we’re not in a position - and I see out there, I see commentary, that if you just build great games everything would turn around. It’s just not true that if we go off and build great games, all of the sudden you’re going to see console shares shift in some dramatic way. We lost the worst generation to lose in the Xbox One generation when everybody built their digital library of games.
Starfield is designed just like every other Bethesda game is. The only thing that changed is that a bunch of virgins in their 30s suddenly need to show off some sort of sexual value and pseudo-intellectualism is the way to go.
Bethesda's games were always built as theme park skinner boxes for braindead morons. Of which Phil is one, sure, but these droves number billions.
If you think Phil actually played Starfield that whole time you're even dumber than you look
Phil is just a suit but somehow he managed to fool a lot of kids into thinking he is a fellow gamer.
The guy is a two faced slimeball (like every suit, really) but somehow morons think he has good intentions
I don't think an One Piece fan is in any position to criticize other works.
>Will Shen bails out immediately after release
>Pete Hines suddenly "retires" (fired)
Emil is spazzing out because he knows he's going to be the fall guy for this. MS can't fire Todd since he's the faceman of the whole Bethesda brand, but someone's gotta go. Specer said that they bought Bethesda for $7,5 billion explicitly on the supposition that Starfield is going to blow everyone's minds and become a new legacy IP. They've bought a huge fricking lemon and now they realize that Todd staffed the entire company with his out of touch midwit friends that can't do much outside of re-releasing Skyrim - le funny meme people are going to get tired of soon eventually.
He 100% won't be around for TES VI development any longer
>Specer said that they bought Bethesda for $7,5 billion explicitly on the supposition that Starfield is going to blow everyone's minds and become a new legacy IP
Wasn't a huge part of the Zenimax buy out because Microsoft had overheard that Bethesda or Zenimax was looking to try and sell Starfield as an exclusive to Sony, so Microsoft's reaction was just to buy the entire damn company out?
This is what happens when you do panic acquisitions.
Thats exactly what happened
Zenimax was dealing the usual one year console exclusive bullshit with Sony and Microsoft barged in with a sack of money and bought the whole building just to screw Sony
Zenimax israelite was a genius. RIP.
>make yourself a victim
this is a men?
>says the illiterate incel
Why's there fricking Asian letters in your screen cap homosexual?
why does something requiring a lot of effort necessitate people treat it with respect
i could put lots of effort into making a statue of dried shit. it’s still shit.
>if you don't run a country you're not allowed to complain that it sucks
>if you don't make [X] you're not allowed to complain that it sucks
but it sucks
therefore (You) failed.
there is no logic in claiming the contrary
You and your 'team' failed to complete a worthy product/game
face it and move on. learn from your mistakes. do not compound to them
I agree with him though. Most people on twitter are just echoing whatever some homosexual on twitter told them to say and have no clue how anything actually works outside of their libtard cuck bubble.
>If you haven't written a game, you can't criticize my writing
Hell.I really wish Bethesda would remake old Fallout, they need to start learning how to make good games again.Modernizing old games is a great way to do that.That's what Nintendo did.
anon, that would require some bit of self-awareness and acknowledgement on their part that what they are currently doing isn't working.
hope is they will start doing that after this failure.
>hope is they will start doing that after this failure
God damn it.I can't even imagine Todd admitting he screwed up, there's no way he's going to apologize.
Publicly? No chance.
But at least internally, within the company.
Hope is there, fainting, but still there.
Phil is gonna break Todd's legs and spill out slurs at his nerd chess club prissy ass to get their shit together and make the buyout worth it, or else
>Phil is gonna break Todd's legs and spill out slurs at his nerd chess club prissy ass to get their shit together and make the buyout worth it, or else
Todd nude dogeza or seppuku soon
Bethesda has one thing going for it
Elder Scrolls
Everything else is a side project and this was a steaming pile of a side project
He's either a comically naive and out of touch designer or an outright evil and malicious one.
I work in quality assurance and I can tell you that user experience is literally close to everything in design. Because the design is how the people interacts with your product, even beyond it's utilities. If the user is uncomfortable using your product, then your product isn't well designed. That's why starfield sucks, because the gameplay is like fallout 4, but the game itself is even more boring because planets are empty and have nothing to do except walk and pray to find something, and the story and actual world is really poorly done in relation to the worldbuilding.
everyone that works at betheshit is a massive queef. remember pete hines? they have a culture of this kind of attitude
>Pete Hines
Internal Consistency? What's that? Sounds like gay nerd shit to me, bro.
I just made à game press s for bethesda sucking m'y balls
sneed
I don't think Emil can make a game either. AAA slops are so massive that not a single dev's contribution really matter.
why is he posting like this if the X post limit is 1000+ words?
the US navy limited it to 256 letters like text back when they couldn't keep up with it and "need to for national security" one of the reasons I dont use it. the other is cops use it in this country and anything you say can be used as a thought crime against you.
>It's empty by design, but that doesn't mean it's bad!
he's right. you're just a worthless NEET who struggle to do basic things
god damn I can't wait for Emil to just retire since it's obvious they won't do anything about this KISS moron
Todd and him have an affair
>don't expect baldur's gate 3 quality
>don't discuss game quality if you're not a dev
Look, making games is hard, I get it. But when I lay down cash for a game, I expect it to work right outta the box, no excuses. These game companies, they're big, they make a lot of dough. So when they say a game's gonna be something special, they better deliver. And if things change during development, just be straight with us. It ain't right to keep folks in the dark, then expect them to be all smiles when things ain't as promised. We're not just wallets with legs; we deserve the full story. And yeah, I respect the grind, but at the end of the day, if the game's a mess, someone's gotta answer for it. It's not just about the effort; it's about what you actually deliver.