Fourty minutes in one direction? Yeah. That's not from one side to another, that's from your ship (the centre) to the edge. So, from one side to another will take an hour and twenty minutes.
HOLY SHIT, this is big! Needs to be on every gaming news site but of course it won't be cause these sorry ass losers already got paid for their fake ass shill review
I bet you we won't hear anything about this in the reviews and if we do they will twist it so we think it's actually a good thing to have, such a slimey, fake, dishonest industry we have now. Disgusting
They've got a holocaust museum and a giant dancing Black person so I don't see why they wouldn't have a map for moonwalking. The screenshot even says it's from fortnite.
>I'm surprised no reviewer tested how long you can walk/run on foot from one end of the map to the other
That's literally what the OP picture is about. The chink leaker ran in one direction for 40 minutes to reach the boundary. This means that each zone from end to end is 80 minutes.
And that's just ONE ZONE on the planet. All of Skyrim from end to end was 50 minutes, for reference.
Honestly there should be laws for that, saying something just to generate more sales when in the end it turns out he was straight up lying, yeah there should absolutely be consequences for that, he literally tricks people into buying a product which in the end turns out isn't even true what he said
The point what you want is irrelevant, someone asked them a question and they straight lied to his face saying "yep you absolutely can do that, even with that smug "Walk on, brave explorer" cringe line
Yes
False advertisment
>can you explore whole planet >yes >you can
where's the lie?
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He didn't lie. You can explore the entire planet, just not without loading screens. He knew what he was doing but he didn't lie
kind of like when 343 industries said halo infinite seasons wouldn't be using FOMO tactics. well it didn't except "Events" were the FOMO tactics which aren't "seasons".
not a lie, just a shitty dev
you arent exploring the planet, youre just on a procgen patch of land. then when you want to go to a new patch, that one gets scrapped and new one gets made. there is no circumnavigating a planet, and there is no mapping a planet out square by square. youre just visiting a randomized instance.
Lies. It's not randomized it all. It is based on an algorithm but it always generates from the same seed when you land so it's the same land every time.
It's a video game. Were you under the impression you were actually going to space and exploring actual planets?
10 months ago
Anonymous
No mans sky have managed to do this.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Now if only it had a combat system that was even marginally interesting or meaningfull
10 months ago
Anonymous
NMS planets are tiny, if anyone has forgotten. In fact they are probably about the same size all the way around as one of these boundary zones in Starfield. Star Citizen is the only game that currently has fully seamless/circumnavigable planets of a respectable size and they only have like 3 you can go on and they are still much smaller than a typical IRL planet and it runs like ass.
10 months ago
Anonymous
dont market your game around it, gay. Its not the peoples fault that you sold a game with 80 gorillion planets you can fully explore, only to find it was yet another lie
10 months ago
Anonymous
You can fully explore them though, you just can't walk from one end to the other, which you will never do anyway. Seems like one of these "instances" is about 60% larger than Skyrim's map based off of how long it takes to run the diameter, 90% of people probably will never see that message unless they intentionally try to do it. It would be cool obviously if the planet was seamless but without vehicles it's a dumb mechanic to focus on and will not effect their normie playerbase. I get the decision from a logical standpoint.
10 months ago
Anonymous
So I can walk from the ship to the end of the cell, and load into another cell which continues the end of the previous cell? So I can circumnavigate but not seamlessly? But I can still go from cell to cell around a planets equator and get back to the first cell?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, that's correct. Another anon confirmed that landscapes are persistent and do not change if you come back to a similar region or land right next to another spot, which make sense when you consider you can make permanent outposts/find persistent locations
10 months ago
Anonymous
You forgot the 12 moons and we have seen previews of the others coming, The smallest planet in scale to the player has the land area of Canada. We can walk, drive, and fly over all of it.
That's like saying that going to the Nether and back will completely delete the Overworld and generate a new one. You are a special kind of stupid, aren't you?
10 months ago
Anonymous
he is definitely wrong, but he isn’t wrong just because a different game does something differently
>Planets
Are nothing but extremely oversized mapmarkers. I've said this months ago. I wouldn't be suprised that there are "School: DESTRUCTION" entries on the weapons when you open them up on the CreationKit.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>creation engine 2 is NOT gamebryo >its gamebryo all fricking over again
im excited for the fallout 4 brand 3-10 minute load times cut down to a BLAZING FAST 1 minute load time on ssd
there probably is ground for that. hines is supposed to be a marketing head. hes literally a human advertisement for bethesda games, and then a couple days before the game's release he starts telling favorable lies about the game? i could see a false advertisement suit. i mean, the only reason we know hes lying is because of a leak.
Yes
False advertisment
He didn't lie. You can explore the entire planet, just not without loading screens. He knew what he was doing but he didn't lie
kind of like when 343 industries said halo infinite seasons wouldn't be using FOMO tactics. well it didn't except "Events" were the FOMO tactics which aren't "seasons".
not a lie, just a shitty dev
Lies of omission do not exist. You have written a story about the truth, making emotional demands of it, and in particular, of those in possession of it. Your demands are based on a feeling of entitlement to the facts, which is very childish. You can never know all of the facts.
They are marketing people. They always lie. To them it doesn't matter if you have to load the new zone. You can still technically walk across the whole planet.
10 months ago
Anonymous
how would that loading even look though? does your ship stay in the same spot all the time, so you have to return for 120 minutes and 3 loading screens? does it just, what the frick does it do?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>open map >select area >load that area
10 months ago
Anonymous
yeah, but I meant when you reach the border.
opening the map every time would be a bad solution
You can fast travel at any time to your ship
oh, right, my bad
10 months ago
Anonymous
>opening the map every time >everytime
How many times are you walking for 40 minutes in any game when you can fast travel
10 months ago
Anonymous
I don’t fast travel in games unless it’s done in an immersive way, i.e. a subway with a little cutscene, or in the case of starfield a hyperdrive
I don’t think it’s difficult to imagine somebody walking for 40 minutes in a game about the exploration of space?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Well at most you would only meet a border every 40 minutes
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Orbital view where 1 mm of distance scales to 50 km on the planets surface.
Good luck landing right next to your first landing zone. (If you can even choose a zone)
he didn't lie, there's an area on a planet that you can fully explore
then again you'd have to be a full moron to think you could revolve around an entire planet
there probably is ground for that. hines is supposed to be a marketing head. hes literally a human advertisement for bethesda games, and then a couple days before the game's release he starts telling favorable lies about the game? i could see a false advertisement suit. i mean, the only reason we know hes lying is because of a leak.
No Man's Sky has multiplayer.
In No Man's Sky you can circle your planet from orbit and land where you want.
No Man's Sky is being updated indefinitely as the company solely works on it as a passion project still.
Starfield will be abandoned as soon as the sales drop.
Can you go to a big city full of npcs and quests and an entire RPG game? Why are you choosing to explore the mostly empty resource planets when there's a whole ton of game to play and more interesting places to explore?
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Can you go to a big city full of NPCs and quests and an entire RPG game
Yes.
Can you do anything this video in starfield?
10 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't see anything interesting there.
10 months ago
Anonymous
you're in for a shock when you launch starfield lil bro
10 months ago
Anonymous
In terms of the type of game I am getting, I will not be surprised. I am sure there will be some interesting things to find out though.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>>Can you go to a big city full of NPCs and quests and an entire RPG game >Yes.
no you can't, i got 50 hours on that piece of shit and i am calling you the frick out you LIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
10 months ago
Anonymous
>slow shitty western "mecha"
don't care
10 months ago
Anonymous
>actually making things up
those small villages don't even do anything in NMS, I did that dumb shit and made a settlement and the homosexuals didn't even bother to defend themselves
10 months ago
Anonymous
just like the Fallout 4 settlements
10 months ago
Anonymous
Fallout 4 Settlers are on the exact opposite spectrum, where they go to crazy lengths to defend themselves like grabbing whatever weapon and equipment like power armor is around them to fight, 100x more preferable than NMS
10 months ago
Anonymous
This is insanely ironic because 99% of the planets in Starfield will be empty, glorified resource nodes. Look forward to that!
10 months ago
Anonymous
Just like 99% of the countries in the world.
10 months ago
Anonymous
That's it's a game dumbfrick, it's meant to be fun
10 months ago
Anonymous
Just explore the 1% then. There'll be more content there than in the whole of NMS or whatever
I expected it to do SOMETHING right, exploration looks like shit and gunplay seems mediocre, as expected. If it's going to end as "mods will fix it" I just won't get it
I am concerned that this is beyond being fixable with mods
10 months ago
Anonymous
fwiw mods are able to give you an infinite playground of fricking nothing to do, but theres a clear and obvious reason why you wouldnt put in the effort to do that.
10 months ago
Anonymous
No amount of mods will get around the loading screen problem or different physics being unable function in the same space (vehicles and humans). That's why space combat takes place in a different loaded zone as the walking. Theoretically you could have cars in Starfield, but then you would only have cars, no walking people.
There is zero exploration in the game since everything relies on fast travel. Fast travel is the antithesis of exploration since you skip everything everything in-between that you could possibly discover. You also never search for the destination by definition since there is no real journey. In summary they turned the most dreaded quality of life feature into a gameplay mechanic completely bastardizing the nature of open world. Everyone said no map markers, no fast travel, yet those are the things they really took to another level.
That's pretty explicit and it's not like no mans sky where the person talking to PR is some introverted developer on the team because hello games was a small indie company
The reality is that in terms of false advertising and the investigation of it, they only really care about what is out in terms of official media/boxart/store description. Random tweets aren't held to a standard that can be used to claim false advertising.
>no man's sky levels of hype syndrome. people just wildly interpreting whatever they want out of a fricking five word tweet.
Corporate wiener must taste great for you to deepthroat it like this.
You made an assumption - a fully looping spherical map
what they meant by "whole planet" is "entirety of what we mapped" which is obviously just a portion
they definitely played into that misconception
>they definitely played into that misconception
one might even say... lied, as they responded to a question asking about exploring "that whole entire planet"
don’t care, sold my PS5 and Switch so I could buy an Series S + Gamepass to enjoy Todds latest masterpiece
Both of these consoles would sell for way more than the price of a series S alone, why would you not get a series X?
Get your fricking market right, apu
You just have to go back to your ship and fly in to space, and then land at a new zone directly next to the one you just generated. You can map an entire planet that way.
As much as I like to blame Pete Hines, the moron who asked this question didn’t ask about invisible walls, he gave Pete the perfect out to say “yup you can explore” knowing damn well there is a caveat.
The point what you want is irrelevant, someone asked them a question and they straight lied to his face saying "yep you absolutely can do that, even with that smug "Walk on, brave explorer" cringe line
Technically you could on giant ice land bridges but that feature was removed before the version you're playing. Classic Todd removing bridges so he can charge me for the boat and plane mod
>All the starfield shills were trying to hype up exploring the empty planets on foot >Now the tactic has immediately switched to "uhhhh why would you even want to do that????"
Might not be but 40 minutes of running to reach a boundary just to load into the next area is plenty. And it is the tutorial so it might be even smaller than normal areas.
You don't load into the next area, you have to first
Load to return to your ship
Load to get into space
Choose an adjacent landing zone
Load to land
Run for 40 minutes to get to the point you originally were.
And that's assuming you can easily load into adjacent tiles. I guarantee that you can not.
And how many people do you think will walk in a straight line for more than 40 minutes? The normal people will do the points of interest on the map, explore a bit and leave, absolutly no one will try to see how much can you walk before reaching the end of the map, dumb fricking contrarian, have a nice day
10 months ago
Anonymous
You realize not all gamers are casuals that speedrun through fotm games, right? Tons of gamers, especially autistic ones will explore EVERY nook and cranny. This turns the game from exploration kino into more modern checklist shit for them. You can blame consoles for this, especially the Series S. The homogenization of console games and PC games is the one the worst things to ever happen to gaming.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>But think of the normalgays that would not even be affected by the boundaries not existing
Damn! You convinced me this is a good thing
10 months ago
Anonymous
I suddenly like squeezing tight corridors to avoid loading screens now that I know "NORMIES DONT CARE" I love bethesda, more skyrimslop please!
>Run for 40 minutes to get to the point you originally were.
I don't think that's the case. Following logic, it seems like you should be able to just land 1 inch into the new zone and then continue where you left off.
This is the tutorial planet, Jez Corden confirmed this isn't true, and despite what trannies on Ganker say, there's 0 track record of lying. Keep coping though, BG3 is gonna lose.
The mission and this location are part of the tutorial, see
>Different studio (Bethesda Austin) >Irrelevant time wasting video unrelated to this topic
[...]
It is, you can revisit it after the tutorial is over and explore it fully in any and directions with no limits.
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Guy behind a lot of confirmed leaks long before anyone else leaked anything.
Same with the Todd Howard 16x the details shit. He just blatantly lied about this, no proof, no consequences, nothing.
Don't textures have 16x the pixels,
16 times the detail was in reference to LOD, there was no lie, just brainrotted trannies who have no comprehension, these are the same morons who say the game has only 1000 planets, when they've explicitly said OVER 1000 and this doesn't even include moons, space stations, and other things you can explore/land on that are neither of those.
>It is, you can revisit it after the tutorial is over and explore it fully in any and directions with no limits
Lmao
nobody’s complaining about the number of planets being too small, el morono.
if anyrhing, people are complaining because the more the planets the worse their quality (which we can clearly see in OP’s pic by the way)
The tutorial mission with a forced outcome on a planet you can revisit with 0 invisible borders or limits? What is there to see BG3 troony?
Anon, you do realize most BG3 fans are also rooting for Starfield...right ? Like, Skyrim and such were a hit with the trad RPG types for a reason. Why push your artificial headcannon ?
I like how you didn’t address the main point of my post (that being that nobody is complaining there isn’t enough planets) >mission boundaries
literally nothing indicates it only happens during missions.
10 months ago
Anonymous
The planets aren't empty though, that's a hot troony stinky poopy disinfo take.
10 months ago
Anonymous
How the frick do you know? The game isn't out yet and the only leak was forty minutes of some Black person shucking and jiving.
10 months ago
Anonymous
They theoretically can't be empty because they don't allow you to explore all of it. Just certain parts bound to have some stuff in it because you're locked to 4 to 6 areas per planet. Which is even worse than being empty. It's exploration for ADHD zoomers.
10 months ago
Anonymous
the fact that you have 15 outposts spread over 510 000 000 km^2, and 4 major cities among OVER 1000 PLANETS doesn’t really make the game feel less empty. I reckon the reason why they give you more companions than usual is so that you don’t feel painfully alone and bored in the sea of emptiness and “press E to mine” minerals
10 months ago
Anonymous
They straight up said some planets will be literally nothing but barren balls of ice. Why even include them at that point? Because it's 'realistic'? So are a ton of other space sim elements that they arbitrarily decided weren't fun. This is Bethesda's quantity over quality, wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle philosophy at its absolute fricking peak
10 months ago
Anonymous
To repetitively mine resources, same as this game's stated biggest inspiration No Man's Sky.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Nobody is forcing you to go to them moron.
10 months ago
Anonymous
That's not the point, moron. Why pour so much time/effort into creating all these balls of *nothing* instead of handcrafting interesting worlds to explore? Bethesda clearly just wanted to dangle a big number in front of mouth-breathers like you who clap your hands and start salivating anytime Todd strolls out on stage to hype up his products
10 months ago
Anonymous
Because they made a system that allows them to easily create lots of planets, and spreading the content out is a reason to fly somewhere. Imagine if Fallout 4 but every POI is on a different planet, then you get the reason to travel, to see whats out there, and maybe see some other shit along the way.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Because it's a space game moron. Even on planets with no native life or even any poi's you can either get resources from them or set up bases if you find them kino. Nobody is going to force you to go there if you don't want to. Zoomers need to throw themselves off a cliff, imo, an entire generation suffering from mental moronation.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I was born in the 80s, moron - I remember when video games were lovingly handcrafted experiences. All you homosexuals care about now is massive, empty, open-world bullshit. Saying 'oh it's a space game' is a fricking weak ass cope because Todd clearly didn't want to create a space sim. You idiots are just impressed by big numbers, it's fine to admit it just stop pretending like you actually care about any semblance of depth
10 months ago
Anonymous
Taking the time to craft a system that allows for the semi-realistic generation of planets/moons that, yes, could just be meant for quiet contemplation or base/outpost building is giving the game depth dumbass. And nothing about being born in the 80s stops you from being a moron. You're just a rare moron at that point.
10 months ago
Anonymous
For ice resources
10 months ago
Anonymous
>literally nothing indicates it only happens during missions
Literally nothing indicates it doesn’t, you’re leaping to conclusions based on a single screenshot with no context, despite someone who is currently playing the game saying it’s misleading
10 months ago
Anonymous
I know your tricks, Black person. If it gets confirmed you'll switch to saying "it's not a big deal"
10 months ago
Anonymous
multiple leakers have confirmed this but sure trust the shill who has no reason at all to defend his product
Nothing about Blackrock is particularly unique. If you hate what they are doing, you hate capitalism, but since this shilling is coming from the reactionary lunatics, they just can't admit to themselves that leftism is right, thus they have to delude themselves into thinking that the thing they recognize as evil conforms to their old programming. Hence this unique fixation on Blackrock.
All of you are disingenuous, LARPing homosexuals, not just the centrists and libtards. >left-wing morons
Ideologically identical to the mainstream media and mainstream politicians on LGBT, immigration, abortion, climate change, etc. but still believes they're "fighting the system". >right-wing morons
"We're gonna overthrow Biden for stealing the election!" "The South will rise again!" "I'll defend my right to own guns with my last breath!" ...all of these would require killing American soldiers and policemen, whom the same morons worship. >russian morons
No, killing Ukrainians is the not same thing as killing Americans. Putin was one of the loudest cheerleaders for America's "War on Terror" and was secretly okay with NATO deposing Milošević in Yugoslavia. For frick's sake, Putin even tried to join NATO himself. >chinese morons
The Chinese economy would collapse in a few minutes without America to trade with. The US media establishment, especially Hollywood, has always been hesitant to criticize China.
>0 track record of lying
Go watch the Oblivion 2005 demo video with Todd Howard narrating. I'm assuming you've played Oblivion. If you have, you should spot the first lie pretty quick when he shows off the jail cell. The most egregious one comes later in the demo, though.
Everyone told you this was gonna be the case from the trailers and footage they showed back then.
That's the entire gameplay loop of the game. You land on a planet, and you get the playable area of a skyrim dungeon.
Why didn't you gay listen?
as if i would ever believe anything this neckbeard says. He is on microsoft pay roll, also he knows absolutely jackshit about the game, just acts like it for clout
>known shill lying his ass off for a product/brand he worships >gets called out after product releases >blocks people and never responds >stays silent for a week or two >gets back to shilling
every time
That guy is a gigantic xbox shill and calls it a half truth. Meaning there is quite a bit of truth to it. Continuing to hype the game up is only going to lead to more people sitting on it during the early access and ripping into it.
idk bro, you got other leakers with pics and vids showing exactly what its like meanwhile you have mr shill saying >uhhb bro thats like not totally true!!! please buy the game.
like he cant even say its false lmao. also the leaker just went to other planets and its the same boundary shit so this cope of >muh tutorial
doesnt hold up
Anon, you do realize most BG3 fans are also rooting for Starfield...right ? Like, Skyrim and such were a hit with the trad RPG types for a reason. Why push your artificial headcannon ?
I fricking hate Zelda homosexuals, and Nintengays for that matter also, nothing can win goty when they release something because all the reviewers have a bias towards anything made by the chinks, 10/10 for totk is fricking moronic its a re-release of a 2017 game.
This is bullshit. You can't win against this kind of people.
If there was indeed a whole explorable planet everyone will cry l "frick this empty openworld", "wtf a biome is 100m diameter".
I can only understand 'omg but they lied', this game smells because we still dunno nothing about it. But if you have played a Beth game in the last ten years you know what it will be.
It's amusing that people are somehow surprised by this, this is Bethesda we're talking about. They outright said that this would be the case in interviews about the game. It's a garbage system all the same and it wouldn't have been hard to use oxygen or signal strength as the reason behind the limited on-foot travel, rather than just saying "SORRY KID, GAME ENDS HERE".
Kek Bethesda drones in full damage control
I bet when you land on a planet you only get 1-2 procedurally generated tasks like a space raider fort and a space deathclaw den
>enjoy fallou4 combat >enjoy roguelite slop >enjoy space >hate aliens >enjoy Ganker tortanic doom posting
Every day it seems more and more like Todd made this game specifically for me at the expence of anyone else enjoying it. Thanks Todd
People still act like this was dumb when taking a glove, aligning it around a players head and altering the players movement is far smarter than making a vehicle for the purpose of a few seconds on a rail.
Considering the metro is a large part of DC, yeah it is dumb and lazy too, but most importantly it shows how shit the gamebyro-creation engine is.
It's not smart, it would've been smarter for a cutscene to play but even that requires some effort so the game doesn't break
There is a cancel button, morons. You can continue on if you press it, but it means there's no real set pieces or quests or anything set up outside of those boundaries.
It still doesn't loop to the next are, its like enabling noclip. There are 4 seperate maps per planet and you can only go between them from your ship, from what they've said in interviews about the grid system.
Clicking cancel will just allow you to turn the other way and walk where you came from, there'll be an invisible wall beyond that point.
I blame consoles and Bethesda outdated engine that they refuse to update beyond few small tweaks instead of completely overhauling it.
Keklmao! They claimed that? And you fricktards believed it?
Aaaayyyylmaooooooooooo
Hans! Bruno! Günther! Hermann! Come here! These idiots thought they'd get a AAA space minecraft!
>t-this times gonna b-be different guys, I s-swear
how many Bethesda games have we now that all follow the same basic formula? yet this ones going to be the one, amirite?? holy frick this is some battered wife shit
Which is exactly what I want. I'm still waiting a year to buy it, when we get a GOTY Edition that's discounted, with all the DLC included, and the modders have had time to open it up.
I pre order so I can play when the game releases like everyone else. If you play like a week or two after the game is out and everyone has stopped playing it makes you a fricking loser
Glad to see that my high school bullies are being stripped out of money by mega corporations using peer pressure to sell them products. Stay poor moron, just don't complain about your student debt.
Fricking dumbass. Guess loser is something you're born as.
>ALL THE CADDLE JUMPED OFF THE BRIDGE SO I MUST TOO
Braindead moron, I bet you took the clot shot, just do everything people tell you to do, you will live a long and happy life, dumbass, wake the frick up!
>ALL THE CADDLE JUMPED OFF THE BRIDGE SO I MUST TOO
Braindead moron, I bet you took the clot shot, just do everything people tell you to do, you will live a long and happy life, dumbass, wake the frick up!
>load in >finish tutorial >try to explore my first planet >invisible border >oh shucks >see that day one patch™ released >install >load save >invisible border again >press X to load more terrain >the games loads me in on another planet entirely >10^28 KM away from my ship >mfw
Ganker needs to come together and file a civil suit against Todd for his lies. This shithead has taken advantage of his consumers far too many times. Email me for the discord link and we can discuss the legal proceedings.
And you homosexuals were saying exploring the entire Hyrule including skies, caves and underground without loading screens on mobile hardware was nothing special
I think anyone with genuine hype or positive expectations for new Bethesda games after what Oblivion turned out to be are either moronic or merely pretending.
Admittedly though I am looking forward to having a """new""" sandbox to eventually bury with mods.
What the frick were they honestly expecting? 16 year olds are always going to have the same inane beliefs in what'd be in a Bethesda GameBryo derived game no matter the era.
This boards obsession with “winning” and “mindbreaking” Ganker has to be the worst trend in the last couple of years. It’s always been here but it’s really accelerated and it floods every fricking discussion. This board used to hate corporations now they worship them like California trannies do. Literal, unironic Black personcattle in every sense of the word. It’s a common trait with zoomers these days though, their “personality” is manufactured for them through viral marketing assault of the senses so I shouldn’t be surprised that as they continue to flood in this type of shit gets worse.
Oh did I hit on something? Why would one example of the standard text box have transparency, and another be solid? Because they copied the shipbuilding box and filled it in solid and faked the text.
>There is a Flight Check that will give you warnings or errors if your design is invalid for any reason.
for example if you want to flay around the planet
The game isn't even released yet, you dumb fricks. The day-1 patch isn't out. And a screenshot has zero context. You have no idea what the circumstances of that screenshot were. It could have been a quest restricted to a certain area or a tutorial.
I swear you people are so fricking moronic some times.
Stuff like this is why physical copies are going to be completely dead come next gen. Everyone thank the leakers. Your next game box will be a piece of cardboard with a code, just like some games are already doing.
it's already dead
even if you get a disc you have to download a 50 gb day 1 patch for the game to work pretty much every time nowadays. you consolegays have been coping for years now.
No, the reason why physical copies will be dead is because games will get even more broken so people want a refund and run into gamestop to get their money back. Without a physical copy they can't do this anymore. Welcome to the future of gaming.
not shilling for Bethesda but why do you morons want to explore an entire planet? video games can barely fill their worlds with content as is, go outside homie
Its all very moronic. Some people thought this game was going to be a space sim, not a bethesda RPG in sapce. They are strugglnig to make any sesne. They claim the game is empty, and yet simultaneously want to explore the whole planet. They seem to have missed the fact this is an FPS RPG with a story and a backdrop of multiple worlds.
>WHATS THE BIG DEAL ABOUT LADDERS! YOU DONT NEED LADDERS, NO IM INCAPABLE OF SEEING THE BIGGER PICTURE AND WHAT IS IMPLIED BY NOT BEING ABLE TO FIGURE OUT A SIMPLE LADDER >I AM ALSO SOMEHOW VEXXED THAT THE GAME THAT CANT FIGURE OUT FRICKING LADDERS DOESNT HAVE GROUND VEHICLES, HMMM
the writing was on the wall really
normies and such are obsessed with huge empty open worlds for some reason. >BRO YOU CAN LIKE LITERALLY GO ANYWHERE IT'S SO FREE AND OPEN
even though literally all it is, is open empty space. I dunno, it's a trend that began back in the late 00s and ever quite went away.
A gigantic shill that runs a fricking Xbox podcast not even fully dismissing it is your signal to cancel your pre-order now. Wait for the GP release 5 days later.
>not even fully dismissing it is your signal to cancel your pre-order now
Nah, he's indirectly confirming that there are loading screens in between zones/cells/regions, but that they aren't a big deal in the way that they function. You will likely be able to reach the border, note it on your map, then move your ship just across the border and then continue in the new zone/cell/region.
It's a little annoying, but nothing major, especially when you consider that you can run in one direction for 40 minutes straight. How fricking often are you going to be doing that?
>not even fully dismissing it is your signal to cancel your pre-order now
Nah, he's indirectly confirming that there are loading screens in between zones/cells/regions, but that they aren't a big deal in the way that they function. You will likely be able to reach the border, note it on your map, then move your ship just across the border and then continue in the new zone/cell/region.
It's a little annoying, but nothing major, especially when you consider that you can run in one direction for 40 minutes straight. How fricking often are you going to be doing that?
Sucks Todd lied but if this is the worst of the bullshit so far that's better than expected, since when did we live in a world where people don't inherently know Bethesda are full of shit and over promise? Game looks good so far, if the worst part of exploration is that I need to use my ship to move between sectors on a planet I'll take it when modders are just gonna fricking patch that out anyway
Literally told you but you stupid children kept arguing against me. Space games are not meant to be played on Gamebryo. It's a clunky MMO engine for Elder Scrolls and nu-Fallouts, filled forever with loading screens.
>creation engine 2 is NOT gamebryo >its gamebryo all fricking over again
im excited for the fallout 4 brand 3-10 minute load times cut down to a BLAZING FAST 1 minute load time on ssd
very frustrating, the state of game engines in the vidya industry
how badly I want dev studios to make their own engines and stop licensing garbage like unreal engine
but then I see devs like Bethesda that do have an inhouse engine and absolutely refuse to update or move on from outdated engines
I know putting together game engines is a lot of time and money but still
I dont need devs using special inhouse shit, I just need them not using archaic shit with the craziest fricking hiccups wherein to go up a guard tower I need to sit through a fricking loading screen because vertical movement tied to an animation is seemingly impossible, yet some lone troony can pull it off with a mod on the nexus. Im not even mad that guns and shit are tied to oblivions magic system, its that all of the trappings are still so fricking clearly there, youd imagine theyd have spent the cash to make this shit distinct but no TOO HARD ON GAMEBRYO, you get magic fireball bullets
>So is this really that bad, or is Ganker just reaching to find reasons to dislike this game without having to play it?
It's a little bad, but not THAT bad. See
>not even fully dismissing it is your signal to cancel your pre-order now
Nah, he's indirectly confirming that there are loading screens in between zones/cells/regions, but that they aren't a big deal in the way that they function. You will likely be able to reach the border, note it on your map, then move your ship just across the border and then continue in the new zone/cell/region.
It's a little annoying, but nothing major, especially when you consider that you can run in one direction for 40 minutes straight. How fricking often are you going to be doing that?
pretty bad because they marketed the game on exploring 1000 planets and this kills exploration. confirms it as a normie tier game for adhd zoomers instead of a game for hardcore gamers. mass appeal wins again.
>they marketed the game on exploring 1000 planets
Todd literally said that 100 of the planets have life and are important. The other 900 are just for material gathering and exploring uninhabitable planets without life.
>and this kills exploration
How does it kill exploration? You can literally run in a straight line for 40 minutes before seeing the border. Then you fly your spaceship 1 inch across that border and continue exploring.
it kills exploration because it drops you near points of interest and tethers you to that area. we have no idea if 40 minutes is the norm or an outlier all we know is that you can't roam around the entire planet finding cool shit and they dump you near points of interest so that you don't get bored. it's a game for brain dead idiots. like god of war raganrok level handholding in that regard. >please stick to the area that has stuff and keep yourself busy there, you are unable to handle real exploration so we will hold your hand and keep you on rails
no shit, you are gonna scan a planet and land at a point of interest. why would you go anywhere else?
You can go do "Real exploration" in the middle of nowhere with nothing in it and find nothing. Oh no! Fast travel prevented me from wasting 12 hours of my time walking and finding nothing!
There is no "real" exploration. There is exploration and then there isn't. Starfield barely has any.
If someone told you there is an icy continent on Earth at the south pole for the first time, and said let's go explore this mysterious continent, but then you get on a high altitude plane, skip everything and land in the middle of snow next to a scientific labratory, you didn't explore shit. Every time you want to change locations you fly above the clouds and suddenly appear on some other spot. Again, thisis not how it works nor how people went around exploring Antarctica.
10 months ago
Anonymous
you absolute Black person I bet if Roald Amundsen had a fricking plane capable of making the trip he would have used it
and even then he only went to the south pole so he could say he could
no one wants to be a fricking surveyor in a video game it's supposed to be an adventure
10 months ago
Anonymous
Who cares? Do you have any idea how many people try and tried to hike across it? They probably could have flown and missed everything, but that's not the purpose. Your brain can't understand exploration because you are too domesticated.
>Other leakers have confirmed that to be false.
I saw him rotate a planet, then place a marker wherever he wanted and then was able to travel to it. From what I saw, it seems to indicate that you can do that anywhere.
What other leakers have said that's false?
10 months ago
Anonymous
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/161v6vf/starfield_leaker_recap/
Scroll down to the edits.
10 months ago
Anonymous
so basically if you land anywhere but MAIN QUEST ZONE on a planet you are landing on a RADIANT QUEST zone thats completely randomized and procgenned.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>BIG BIG UPDATE: Turns out I got the designated landing parts stuff wrong, and you can land on anywhere you select on a planet, here is the buddy explaining it : >No. This was before I had gotten really into the game and learned that I could do that they don't ever explain it. There are designated landing zones on the planet but they're only like big points of interest. Cities mining stations etc. After I discovered I could just select a spot on the planet and land wherever I wanted I tested it to see the boundaries. >There are designated landing zones and then landing zones that you can just create by clicking on the planet. But like I said once you land I believe it generates that boundary tile. Then if you want to go to a different part on the planet you can just click on a different part and go there. But I do not believe that these tiles exist without you landing there. It's not like you can go from one tile to the other on foot
So you CAN land anywhere on the planets.
10 months ago
Anonymous
yes but to call that exploring the entire planet is so dishonest. You are simply generating a random area with a boundary.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>You are simply generating a random area with a boundary
The guy doesn't seem to be able to fully confirm whether they are just random tilesets or if they are actually coherent tilesets that are connected. I can't tell if the leaker is just stupid since he was unable to test it properly and give a proper answer.
10 months ago
Anonymous
You most likely need 2 people to land in the exact same spot to get to the bottom of something like that. So what people did with No Man's Sky.
10 months ago
Anonymous
im sure the tilesets are coherent. I imagine which tiles or chunks they use are matched with certain planet parameters, but again Todd and co sold this as far more than No Mans Sky bullshit, and as heinous as No Mans Sky is, it let you explore the whole planet, you didnt touch down on a football field with a boundary
10 months ago
Anonymous
>football field with a boundary
Being able to run 40 minuets in any direction from your spaceship is a bit more than what I would call a football field. Running from one end of Skyrim to the other takes 50 minutes, for example.
10 months ago
Anonymous
okay sure but if theres nothing fricking there or its just the same alien/raider outpost with diabloshit gear who fricking cares, dont market your game around this idea of exploration when thats obviously not the intent
10 months ago
Anonymous
Did you watch the direct? It was always pretty clear from that what it was I think. And it still looks good. It always looked like it would be bethesda game in space, and it is bethesda game in space...If you thought it was something else without actually looking at the info released, then you are the idiot.
10 months ago
Anonymous
frick off Todd, you know what you said, you know how you said it,I knew youd worm your slimy way out of it, frick you
10 months ago
Anonymous
Oh so you didn't actually look at anything about it I see, you just assumed it was something else than a bethesda game in space. Which is pretty stupid when you think about it.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>ITS SPACE SKYRIM!!! DONT YOU WANT SPACE SKYRIM
i want todd and co to get off their lazy asses and do something cool for the first time in nearly 20 fricking years
10 months ago
Anonymous
>You wanted something other than mediocrity!?
This is like saying Pokemon scarlet gets a free pass at being a lazy hack job that looks and performs bad because it's made by gamefreaks
10 months ago
Anonymous
And a typical Bethesda game is clunky and shit, which only gets polished by terabytes of mod. What's your point anyway?
10 months ago
Anonymous
My point is if you saw a new bethesda game in space, and dont like bethesda game, and saw the direct and didn't like what you saw, then why are you even still concerned with it? "Ohnononono this is just bethesda game in space," like this is some kind of "own". Yes you are stupid. I am in a thread about a game I am excited for knowing what it wil be like, and you are in a thread about a game you do not like the maker of, you do not like previous games, you do not know anything about it, and you are pissed off about it lol what fricking total bunch of idiots.
10 months ago
Anonymous
youre a redditor with no standards. >I LOVE LE BETHESDA GAME
newsflash, b***h. "Bethesda game" isnt a genre, it is a box that you allow yourself sit comfortably in. These Black folk are bankrolled by one of the richest companies on earth and are going to make billions repurposing Oblivions code for the 15th time. Expecting some sort of quality control or growth in a company that consistently sets its sights on the sun isnt a negative trait, being perfectly content with playing oblivion again NAO WITH LAZORS! is pathetic
10 months ago
Anonymous
>not a genre
its at Todd-like.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>is a box that you allow yourself sit comfortably in
fricking lmao sniffing your own farts I see
10 months ago
Anonymous
you probably thought skyrim was revolutionary on launch, your words are incapable of hurting anyone, and favorite games are the textbook definition of goyslop
10 months ago
Anonymous
Their main margeting jango isliterally that they are trying something different. And I know Bethesda better than you, and I knew it was gonna be the same shit. It's you morons that keep defending their eternal marketing lies who are the problem, since you pay for their content and enable scummy industry behavior. I'm fine with their games being shit with half the sales and none of the lies, but you just can't let that happen. Have to show up on forums and use mental gymnastics to shut out critics.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Most "crtiic" is some moronic shit that makes no difference to someone who wants to play another bethesda RPG in space. Most is criticisizingstupid little shit like START MENU or things that are not "hardcore space sim". Its moronic to critcize something that is not a space sim for not being a space sim, don't you think?
10 months ago
Anonymous
I've made 20 posts here against Bethesda, but think the loading screen is great. The only good things about Skyrim were the black front cover (reminds me of Ultima 7) and the music. That's it. Don't straw man us as mindless children. There is always something inherently more wrong about defending upcoming games from a suspect developers before you have even played it than being realistically sceptical.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>trying something different
Yes, its different. Its not Fallout or Elder Scrolls. Thats different. It has some lements of a space game in it, thats different. But it will still have the bethesda style. Its like the Elden RIng of Bethesda RPG's. Its gonna be great,and you're gonna be wasting your time beign mad in a thread about a game you hate rather than finding a game you do like and having fun with that.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Lol what difference does it make when that loaded zone functions in its own time and space. It's physically removed from the rest, as the others are from each other. Only dummy normies get fooled by their lack of technical understanding into believing it's a real game world.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>that loaded zone functions in its own time and space >It's physically removed from the rest, as the others are from each other
What exactly does this prevent you from doing, that you want to do?
10 months ago
Anonymous
Holy shit. Are you stupid? There is no interaction in the game world. Nothing goes on without your movement. There is no space ships at all until you go through a loading screen to change your model into one. The ships you see in the demos flying on the surface are scripted sequences like Skyrim's dragons. They don't even have physics. It's a illusion that insults your intelligence.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Are you stupid?
Are you? You're incapable of giving me some examples of what it would prevent you from doing.
10 months ago
Anonymous
What's wrong with those examples provided? Do you think it's fine to enter a house in a Bethesda game and be transported to the ethereal dimension where the interior exists separate from the rest of the universe. Open world needs as dynamic of a world as possible, with as little loading screens as possible.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Do you think it's fine to enter a house in a Bethesda game and be transported to the ethereal dimension where the interior exists separate from the rest of the universe
Yes. Why do you need the outside world to exist at the same time as you are inside, when you can't interact with the outside in any way? Give me some examples of what exactly you want to do. The only one I can think of would be to look outside windows and see the world, that's it.
10 months ago
Anonymous
If im running from a bear outside, and go into a house, its a lot more cool that the bear be able to smash the fricking front door in than be completely safe knowing the game will do nothing now. Thats dynamic, thats inventive, thats immersive, and fricking cool, unlike your gay by the books color by numbers game design.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>If im running from a bear outside, and go into a house, its a lot more cool that the bear be able to smash the fricking front door in than be completely safe knowing the game will do nothing now
Okay, I get what you're saying and I do agree. However, I don't personally think it's a dealbreaker in any way. Maybe it's because I grew up on all games functioning like that, so it's normal to me.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>its not a big deal, its completely normal
frick off Bethesda shill
10 months ago
Anonymous
Because then the world isopen and not constructed on lies. Dynamic events can take place in the world on their own without much or any player input. You could enter a house, but so could someone else. You could do some type of activity at the door if the interior and outside where in the same space. This extends to towns and planets too. You could see things in the sky that actually are there and can be gotten closer to. People would literally go about their business anywhere anytime.
Now your turn, give me a good explanation for why you dislike open world, and also why do you insts on playing and calling games open world if they are not open world? This is yet another one of those industry lies where things are made to be what they aren't. How many games call themselves RPGs to generate sales but don't even have 5% of Baldur's Gate 3's RPG mechanics? It's bullshit and we all know it.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>literal ideas man
All of that would be cool, but its not quite possible yet. We are still limted by technology. Most people's machines cannot run the likes of Cyberpunk at any decent frame rate and that kind of game is just a single map zone with very little interactivity or dynamic emergent physics based events or whatever. Game shat are trying full real open, are like NMS or Elite, which are lots of minimal emptiness but hey you can drive on the planet. star Citizne has 4 plantes, the NPC's in stations are decorative objects that move around sometimes.
10 months ago
Anonymous
It's you dumbfrick who couldn't generate any ideas on your own and kept stuttering to provide yourself examples. Don't cop out now and use ideas guy as an insult. If you had any thoughts of yur own you wpuld have figured out what a dynamic world means. In video game format it czn be something as fantastic as Dwarf Fortress, or on the opposite end of the scale, like Loadingfield.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>give me a good explanation for why you dislike open world
I don't. We're both talking about open world games. The difference is between if the "outside" of your peripheral are rendered or not. You think it's a huge deal if they aren't, while I don't think it's that big of a deal(while still recognizing that in a perfect world, your version would be ideal, obviously).
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Open world needs as dynamic of a world as possible, with as little loading screens as possible.
Yeah I think the issue is that modern gamers expect AAA games to be open world so they are let down by everything being so heavily segmented and that's why people are upset about this. Bethesda could have done a better job of letting consumers know this is how things were but I'm sure they loved gamers assuming the game was going to be this godly game that changes the face of gaming forever. All the Starfield hype is behind that, even on here shills tried to pretend it was going to be the next Skyrim, a modern immersive experience to push open world games further. Because even those shills expect AAA trash to be open world.
10 months ago
Anonymous
having it run on the series s should have been a major red flag. same w/ it being 30 fps on the series x.
10 months ago
Anonymous
You are not allowed to launch a game on series x without it also running on series semen
10 months ago
Anonymous
the s is lost likely why they decided to go this route and have different instanced areas. it has 8gb of ram it can actually use. it can't handle entire planets. consoles hold back pc gaming yet again.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Honestly it's just the escape goat, asset streaming has existed for a longass time so you could load shit on demand based on proximity, specially considering we have ssds. Heck, king's field 2 (Japan) for the PSX had a sizable map (for the time) and it has no loading screens after starting the game other than the very last zone which was physically located elsewhere and requires teleportation, the game just loaded shit as you move through the map.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Hahaha it's even worse than I imagined. I thought there would be some orbital minigame to discover the important locations qt first but looks like somebody already marked them on your map since you were born. Like I said, zero exploration. They gave you this false idea of "landing anywhere" which is just a boring gimmick. 99% of players will fast travel from known place to place and not even bother with autism resource mining on a random wastelands with the same aggressive 10 foot bug aliens on them.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>but looks like somebody already marked them on your map since you were born
99.99% sure you can just turn off the markers, if you want.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Lol genius. You can't find otherwise or even go there because everything relies on FAST TRAVEL. You don't discover, map out or explore anything in Loadingfield.
Why would you ever have thought a bethesda RPG was going to be some kind of hardcore sim lamo what an idiot, seems nothing like it from anythngi I've seen, and I'm glad. I could tell what it was going to be from what was shown, and it looks great.
there's like 4 of these threads and I don't get it
who in the right mind thought we would be able to? haven't we known it was zones for quite a while now?
Outerworlds is the only game I feel bad for hating, I played the whole thing I like the aesthetic but it just never clicks it consistently reaches for an idea and then pulls back or fricks the landing at the last second. I wish I could love it.
Reminder that the peoples good faith has run out with Fallout76
Unless the game is polished excellently everyone will tear them a new butthole. And so far the leak is looking bad
>I want to walk for years and completely circle the planet.
Why?
I love these threads, anons trying so desperately hard to make the most pointless and boring things the most important aspect of a game.
If you don't like western games or don't like bethesda games, then don't play them.
I think Genshin Impact is the most garbage game I've ever seen, but I am not going to make threads about how much I think it sucks, because that would be stupid, why would I waste my time?
He doesn't really clear anything up with that explanation though. We need someone to 100% fully confirm if you can go like this:
Land anywhere on planet -> Run in one direction for 40 minutes -> Hit boundary -> Mark boundary on map -> Go back to ship -> Move ship 1 inch across boundary to generate new boundary -> Continue exploring where you left off.
As you land the planet loads, but only one tiny chunk of planetary volume does and all time ceases outside it during your stay there. You walk for 40minutes, hit aNother chunk, it loads, and the previously visited place freezes in time the same as the rest of all space and time. You'll never experience tracking a massive asteroid through space and climbing a hilltop of a planet it skirts by just so you can enjoy the show.
>you can either fast travel from your seat to the ship you just boarded or manually get out of your seat walk down and enter through the docking bay. But the docking day has a minor loading screen. Walking into buildings also has loading screens like old Bethesda titles. Someone will walk up to a door and fade out when they open it just like all other titles
It's Oblivion, with guns, in space. Regardless, I'll still probably have fun with it. No use letting my expectations run wild because of senseless "hype", I'll take the game as it comes. Fingers crossed the full game demo is out close to release.
It's impressive how some people go out of their way to defend Bethesda, for free. They can't just keep their mediocrity to themselves, they have to go damage control for the game
It's impressive how some people go out of their way to make it seem like Starfield is a TORtanic moment, because zones are 40 minute in radius(Skyrim sized).
It's only one part of the issue with exploration, the biggest one thus far being the lack of fricking vehicles to explore a fricking planet, what the frick is wrong with Bethesda
They are hyper defensive in this thread. You can tell they are hellbent on liking the game and spending money on it despite everything pointing towards scepticism lmao.
why is it that indies can make underdone exploration games in fricking godot but the trillion dollar microsoft company dev cant. Surely everyone would rather have 50 planets, 8 main quest planets and 40 cool curated planets with lots of cool shit to do, rather than ONE BRAZILIAN procgen isolated content cubes.
Realistically, those 50 planets would take more time than the 1000 procgen stuff in SF (not defending it though), advertising "1000 planets" will be more eye-catching for normalgays though. If people call that shit boring you have an army of drones calling it "realistic" who will say nothing about realism regarding exploring vast lands on foot, because "realism" is good when it means Bethesda can be lazy
itd be more forgiveable to explore an empty fricking seemless planet than load(2-3 minutes) into 40,000 distinct and empty areas with nothing in them except a raider or two
The chink leaker clearly said that he walked for litteraly 40 minutes before reaching the end of his current cube and that he just needed to call his ship to start walking again
In how much games did you walk for 40 min in a straight line Black folk?
>Here's the problem those squares don't exist if you don't land on them. It's not like it's a whole bunch of squares connected that you get to pick and choose from. It's just the surface of a planet you select where you want to land and then you land there and a square is generated. I tried making four landing spaces directly next to each other and it didn't make the area any bigger. Each one of those areas were separate and not connected
>landing sites are completely separate from each other and not connected and from my testing they cannot be connected no matter how close you place the landing zones
OH NO NO NO HAHAAHHAHAHAAahaha
leaker confirming planets aren't even separated into cells, you can't boundary hop. every new landing spot is completely instanced and newly proc genned from the last even if you were to land 0.1 cm away from where you were a second ago. there is functionally no consistent planet, only a bunch of separate zones
I've never seen a single person bragging about walking a whole planet or even flying it whole in Star citizen.
Because it's boring as frick and meaningless.
The saddest part is that 99% of the people complaining about this whole thing are just nu-Ganker zoomers who are DESPERATE to experience a TORtanic moment. They don't even give a flying frick about being able to explore or not in the first place.
You guys are literally moronic, this is running on the same engine as fallout, skyrim, Bethesda, morrowind... a 20+ year old engine
And you thought they'd figure out how to get open world working on this engine on a massive globe shaped open world, or some kind of non Euclidean hack where spacetime circles back around?
You're all dumb as frick if you thought you'd be able to explore an "entire planet" even if it were to be fricking tiny. Bethesda could never get their physics and all their shit working on a fricking globe shape or anything. Why are you all so fricking stupid and delusionally optimistic about eveything?
? It's still on Creation Engine which they've made clear, they just update its featureset like they do every game, which is obvious when you look at things like the lighting/animations in Starfield
>thx, You cannot swim underwater at least the one time I tested it on new Atlantis
>thx, You cannot swim underwater at least the one time I tested it on new Atlantis
>thx, You cannot swim underwater at least the one time I tested it on new Atlantis
BETH REMOVED UNDERWATER FRICKING SWIMMING HAHAhahahah. every new game they strip out core elements but I really expected this to be in so we could explore underwater fauna and caves
Why is this the only thread about this?
It's not, and apparently this shows up after you walk for 40 mins in real life so nobody will ever see this screen
You think 40 minutes of exploration is a large amount?
Fourty minutes in one direction? Yeah. That's not from one side to another, that's from your ship (the centre) to the edge. So, from one side to another will take an hour and twenty minutes.
Because Bethdrones want to hide the truth as much as possible
The bethesda shills know there is no way they can make this game seem good, so they focus on making better games seem bad.
Bethesda shills are already focused on polishing the turd with mods as always. After 1 terabyte of installed mods they will say it's finally good.
OH NO NO NO NO NO
Oh no no no lmao.
Why have morons memed themselves into unironically shilling for Todd and Bethesda? They make mediocre or above average games.
lmao is that the procedurally generated landscape in the back looks god awfull. one texture repeated on some shitty ass empty landscape
HOLY SHIT, this is big! Needs to be on every gaming news site but of course it won't be cause these sorry ass losers already got paid for their fake ass shill review
It just keeps getting worse
I bet you we won't hear anything about this in the reviews and if we do they will twist it so we think it's actually a good thing to have, such a slimey, fake, dishonest industry we have now. Disgusting
It's already been decided it's a good thing.
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODD
That message at the top makes it seem like this player is in a pre-defined mission, which is probably a localized story encounter.
If it were for a mission why would it suggest you select a different region?
why is fortnite in the filename
Lol, according to keikaku. I bet maps are smaller then mass effect ones, because there is no Mako
See that landscape? You can reach the boundary of it.
>The landscape
>The UI design
What the frick, Xenoblade 4 is already out?
OH NO NO NO NO NO
its over
>fortnite
Isn't this a fortnite screenshot? Why is everyone treating it as a Starfield screenshot?
starfield is a fortnite expansion
You've clearly never played Fortnite.
They've got a holocaust museum and a giant dancing Black person so I don't see why they wouldn't have a map for moonwalking. The screenshot even says it's from fortnite.
moron
Fornite literally only puts you in first person for scoped weapons, dude. The filename has confused you too hard.
I'm calling shoop. That menu popup looks nothing like the style of other menus in Starfield.
Holy shit hahahahaha shills eternally BTFO
blunder of the century confirmed
I'm surprised no reviewer tested how long you can walk/run on foot from one end of the map to the other
I bet their maps are as large as Mass Effect 1 planets
>I'm surprised no reviewer tested how long you can walk/run on foot from one end of the map to the other
That's literally what the OP picture is about. The chink leaker ran in one direction for 40 minutes to reach the boundary. This means that each zone from end to end is 80 minutes.
And that's just ONE ZONE on the planet. All of Skyrim from end to end was 50 minutes, for reference.
OH WOAH
OH NO NO NO
OH NO NO NO NO NO OHH OHH....
AHHHHHHHHHH HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAA!!!
LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD!!!!
don’t care, sold my PS5 and Switch so I could buy an Series S + Gamepass to enjoy Todds latest masterpiece
jesus what a fricking L
Because one meme leak bullshot making the snoys lose their mind?
Why do we always let this lying pos get away with it?
what are you gonna do? sue him?
Honestly there should be laws for that, saying something just to generate more sales when in the end it turns out he was straight up lying, yeah there should absolutely be consequences for that, he literally tricks people into buying a product which in the end turns out isn't even true what he said
>can you explore whole planet
>yes
>you can
where's the lie?
you arent exploring the planet, youre just on a procgen patch of land. then when you want to go to a new patch, that one gets scrapped and new one gets made. there is no circumnavigating a planet, and there is no mapping a planet out square by square. youre just visiting a randomized instance.
Lies. It's not randomized it all. It is based on an algorithm but it always generates from the same seed when you land so it's the same land every time.
you're right about everything except it being randomized. If you load the next area everything that you just visited will still be there.
It's a video game. Were you under the impression you were actually going to space and exploring actual planets?
No mans sky have managed to do this.
Now if only it had a combat system that was even marginally interesting or meaningfull
NMS planets are tiny, if anyone has forgotten. In fact they are probably about the same size all the way around as one of these boundary zones in Starfield. Star Citizen is the only game that currently has fully seamless/circumnavigable planets of a respectable size and they only have like 3 you can go on and they are still much smaller than a typical IRL planet and it runs like ass.
dont market your game around it, gay. Its not the peoples fault that you sold a game with 80 gorillion planets you can fully explore, only to find it was yet another lie
You can fully explore them though, you just can't walk from one end to the other, which you will never do anyway. Seems like one of these "instances" is about 60% larger than Skyrim's map based off of how long it takes to run the diameter, 90% of people probably will never see that message unless they intentionally try to do it. It would be cool obviously if the planet was seamless but without vehicles it's a dumb mechanic to focus on and will not effect their normie playerbase. I get the decision from a logical standpoint.
So I can walk from the ship to the end of the cell, and load into another cell which continues the end of the previous cell? So I can circumnavigate but not seamlessly? But I can still go from cell to cell around a planets equator and get back to the first cell?
Yeah, that's correct. Another anon confirmed that landscapes are persistent and do not change if you come back to a similar region or land right next to another spot, which make sense when you consider you can make permanent outposts/find persistent locations
You forgot the 12 moons and we have seen previews of the others coming, The smallest planet in scale to the player has the land area of Canada. We can walk, drive, and fly over all of it.
That's like saying that going to the Nether and back will completely delete the Overworld and generate a new one. You are a special kind of stupid, aren't you?
he is definitely wrong, but he isn’t wrong just because a different game does something differently
>Planets
Are nothing but extremely oversized mapmarkers. I've said this months ago. I wouldn't be suprised that there are "School: DESTRUCTION" entries on the weapons when you open them up on the CreationKit.
>creation engine 2 is NOT gamebryo
>its gamebryo all fricking over again
im excited for the fallout 4 brand 3-10 minute load times cut down to a BLAZING FAST 1 minute load time on ssd
Same with the Todd Howard 16x the details shit. He just blatantly lied about this, no proof, no consequences, nothing.
Don't textures have 16x the pixels,
salesmen always say ambiguous shit
He didn't lie. You can explore the entire planet, just not without loading screens. He knew what he was doing but he didn't lie
kind of like when 343 industries said halo infinite seasons wouldn't be using FOMO tactics. well it didn't except "Events" were the FOMO tactics which aren't "seasons".
not a lie, just a shitty dev
This is what israelites consider to not be lying. Amazing how their brains work.
Lies of omission do not exist. You have written a story about the truth, making emotional demands of it, and in particular, of those in possession of it. Your demands are based on a feeling of entitlement to the facts, which is very childish. You can never know all of the facts.
a few pre selected zones on a planet separated by loading screens isn't exploring the planet.
Being able to walk across an entire planet doesn't generate sales. What kind of fricking moron are you?
then why lie about it
Nobody has been proven to lie
They are marketing people. They always lie. To them it doesn't matter if you have to load the new zone. You can still technically walk across the whole planet.
how would that loading even look though? does your ship stay in the same spot all the time, so you have to return for 120 minutes and 3 loading screens? does it just, what the frick does it do?
>open map
>select area
>load that area
yeah, but I meant when you reach the border.
opening the map every time would be a bad solution
oh, right, my bad
>opening the map every time
>everytime
How many times are you walking for 40 minutes in any game when you can fast travel
I don’t fast travel in games unless it’s done in an immersive way, i.e. a subway with a little cutscene, or in the case of starfield a hyperdrive
I don’t think it’s difficult to imagine somebody walking for 40 minutes in a game about the exploration of space?
Well at most you would only meet a border every 40 minutes
>Orbital view where 1 mm of distance scales to 50 km on the planets surface.
Good luck landing right next to your first landing zone. (If you can even choose a zone)
You can fast travel at any time to your ship
It's not a lie it just isn't the whole truth.
You didn't ask the right question;)
Or you can just be patient and not buy before the reviews.
>Honestly there should be laws for that
there are
but corporations have too much money so they get away with it every time
Hitler tried to stop them anon
Hitler didn't exist. It's just a ghost story ~~*they*~~ tell us to justify being our rulers.
he didn't lie, there's an area on a planet that you can fully explore
then again you'd have to be a full moron to think you could revolve around an entire planet
Yes he lied, the guy asked if he can explore that "whole entire" planet and Hines said "Yup.
there probably is ground for that. hines is supposed to be a marketing head. hes literally a human advertisement for bethesda games, and then a couple days before the game's release he starts telling favorable lies about the game? i could see a false advertisement suit. i mean, the only reason we know hes lying is because of a leak.
Yes
False advertisment
Red thumb in delivery
Being able to explore the whole planet doesn't mean you can explore it without loading zones.
Blame weak ass consoles
no man's sky levels of hype syndrome. people just wildly interpreting whatever they want out of a fricking five word tweet.
maybe that moron should have specified in his question if a whole planet can be explored SEAMLESSLY. that dev just answered the question honestly.
These people have a history of lying to us.
No Man's Sky has multiplayer.
In No Man's Sky you can circle your planet from orbit and land where you want.
No Man's Sky is being updated indefinitely as the company solely works on it as a passion project still.
Starfield will be abandoned as soon as the sales drop.
>In No Man's Sky you can circle your planet from orbit and land where you want.
and then what do you do?
And then you get out of the ship and explore the planet on foot or by land Rover if you wish for as long as you want, dimwit
You mean walk or travel around in a buggy doing the same dumb shit as in any other area? I know video games are for childlike minds but WTF kek
Everything you can do in Starfield for starters.
Can you go to a big city full of npcs and quests and an entire RPG game? Why are you choosing to explore the mostly empty resource planets when there's a whole ton of game to play and more interesting places to explore?
>Can you go to a big city full of NPCs and quests and an entire RPG game
Yes.
Can you do anything this video in starfield?
I didn't see anything interesting there.
you're in for a shock when you launch starfield lil bro
In terms of the type of game I am getting, I will not be surprised. I am sure there will be some interesting things to find out though.
>>Can you go to a big city full of NPCs and quests and an entire RPG game
>Yes.
no you can't, i got 50 hours on that piece of shit and i am calling you the frick out you LIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>slow shitty western "mecha"
don't care
>actually making things up
those small villages don't even do anything in NMS, I did that dumb shit and made a settlement and the homosexuals didn't even bother to defend themselves
just like the Fallout 4 settlements
Fallout 4 Settlers are on the exact opposite spectrum, where they go to crazy lengths to defend themselves like grabbing whatever weapon and equipment like power armor is around them to fight, 100x more preferable than NMS
This is insanely ironic because 99% of the planets in Starfield will be empty, glorified resource nodes. Look forward to that!
Just like 99% of the countries in the world.
That's it's a game dumbfrick, it's meant to be fun
Just explore the 1% then. There'll be more content there than in the whole of NMS or whatever
> Still shilling no man sky
let me know when you can actually interact with npcs meaningfully in that game, let alone other players.
I wanted to play his for the exploration, no ground vehicles killed a lot of my interest, but this might be the final nail in the coffin for me
he knew what he was doing, it's completely and willfully misleading, he could have easily said it needed multiple landings
lmao you actually expected vehicles in a bethesda game on that shitheap of an engine?
I expected it to do SOMETHING right, exploration looks like shit and gunplay seems mediocre, as expected. If it's going to end as "mods will fix it" I just won't get it
I am concerned that this is beyond being fixable with mods
fwiw mods are able to give you an infinite playground of fricking nothing to do, but theres a clear and obvious reason why you wouldnt put in the effort to do that.
No amount of mods will get around the loading screen problem or different physics being unable function in the same space (vehicles and humans). That's why space combat takes place in a different loaded zone as the walking. Theoretically you could have cars in Starfield, but then you would only have cars, no walking people.
There is zero exploration in the game since everything relies on fast travel. Fast travel is the antithesis of exploration since you skip everything everything in-between that you could possibly discover. You also never search for the destination by definition since there is no real journey. In summary they turned the most dreaded quality of life feature into a gameplay mechanic completely bastardizing the nature of open world. Everyone said no map markers, no fast travel, yet those are the things they really took to another level.
That's pretty explicit and it's not like no mans sky where the person talking to PR is some introverted developer on the team because hello games was a small indie company
The reality is that in terms of false advertising and the investigation of it, they only really care about what is out in terms of official media/boxart/store description. Random tweets aren't held to a standard that can be used to claim false advertising.
misleading language in official media (deep dive, first minutes of gameplay, trailers etc.) can potentially be considered grounds for a lawsuit though
I did list official media, this is just some tweet.
>no man's sky levels of hype syndrome. people just wildly interpreting whatever they want out of a fricking five word tweet.
Corporate wiener must taste great for you to deepthroat it like this.
You made an assumption - a fully looping spherical map
what they meant by "whole planet" is "entirety of what we mapped" which is obviously just a portion
they definitely played into that misconception
>they definitely played into that misconception
one might even say... lied, as they responded to a question asking about exploring "that whole entire planet"
He even said walk lol
And people still expect vehicles
Not thiss time.
Starfield will flop; there's no real hype surrounding it with normalgays.
Both of these consoles would sell for way more than the price of a series S alone, why would you not get a series X?
Get your fricking market right, apu
You technically can explore a whole planet.
You just have to go back to your ship and fly in to space, and then land at a new zone directly next to the one you just generated. You can map an entire planet that way.
As much as I like to blame Pete Hines, the moron who asked this question didn’t ask about invisible walls, he gave Pete the perfect out to say “yup you can explore” knowing damn well there is a caveat.
Lying by omission is still lying.
It clearly has the condition "when I land on a planet". The answer to the thing he asked is no.
>Pete Hines lies again
What a shocker
yes you can explore the whole planet area that was created just like he said, not a lie
Why do you want to mindless walk in an empty planet? Just explore the good spots idiot
The point what you want is irrelevant, someone asked them a question and they straight lied to his face saying "yep you absolutely can do that, even with that smug "Walk on, brave explorer" cringe line
>why would you want to explore space in a space exploration game
where is the supposed marvel about "1000 planets to explore" then, jackass?
>be on earth
>try to travel on foot from canada to australia
>can't
omg money stolen?!?!
Yeah, cause as we know engine that is running our universe doesn't support vehicle code.
>playing game
>told I can walk and explore whole planets
>cant
Money quite literally stolen
You can walk
You can explore whole planets
Just not both at the same time
>playing game
Hold on now, how did you get the game? Did you pay for the game before the release date?
>be on land
>walk to coast
>you have reached a boundary
>have to get in your ship to explore another area
You could easily fly there if you had a personal ship.
Technically you could on giant ice land bridges but that feature was removed before the version you're playing. Classic Todd removing bridges so he can charge me for the boat and plane mod
>he doesn't know
Earth is a barren planet with no atmosphere lol
Now it all makes sense. No land vehicles and all that
Exactly, this is the reason why we won't get vehicles or alien mounts. Frick this company.
you do realize they are playing without the day one patch? this will be fixed on release
>All the starfield shills were trying to hype up exploring the empty planets on foot
>Now the tactic has immediately switched to "uhhhh why would you even want to do that????"
So you can explore the planet, just in 40 minute stretches as you wander from one zone to the next
Why would you trust hines anyway? He said he doesn't even know if the game has a level cap
What the frick does Hines even do? He seems like a "face" of Bethesda except unlike Todd who is likeable and charismatic, he's the complete opposite.
He just seethe online
What really matters is how big the zones are. If they're huge it won't matter
It took him 40 minutes of sprinting to reach the boundary of the tutorial level. This isn't even one of the planets.
What makes you think it being a moon is any different?
Might not be but 40 minutes of running to reach a boundary just to load into the next area is plenty. And it is the tutorial so it might be even smaller than normal areas.
It isn't the same planet as the tutorial, why are people saying this?
You don't load into the next area, you have to first
Load to return to your ship
Load to get into space
Choose an adjacent landing zone
Load to land
Run for 40 minutes to get to the point you originally were.
And that's assuming you can easily load into adjacent tiles. I guarantee that you can not.
And how many people do you think will walk in a straight line for more than 40 minutes? The normal people will do the points of interest on the map, explore a bit and leave, absolutly no one will try to see how much can you walk before reaching the end of the map, dumb fricking contrarian, have a nice day
You realize not all gamers are casuals that speedrun through fotm games, right? Tons of gamers, especially autistic ones will explore EVERY nook and cranny. This turns the game from exploration kino into more modern checklist shit for them. You can blame consoles for this, especially the Series S. The homogenization of console games and PC games is the one the worst things to ever happen to gaming.
>But think of the normalgays that would not even be affected by the boundaries not existing
Damn! You convinced me this is a good thing
I suddenly like squeezing tight corridors to avoid loading screens now that I know "NORMIES DONT CARE" I love bethesda, more skyrimslop please!
>Run for 40 minutes to get to the point you originally were.
I don't think that's the case. Following logic, it seems like you should be able to just land 1 inch into the new zone and then continue where you left off.
>the tutorial level
this doesn't even confirm anything then...
>Bethesda drones at maximum control damage
lul
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God I can't wait for the Crowbcat video
I wonder if the mod scene will fix this…. after the giant breasts and futa mods.
Will the mods have a breast so giant that you can’t explore the whole thing on foot?
I can 100% guarantee there will be a giantess planet mod for this “game” that even allows you to enter the lady
Fully modeled vegana?
inside and outside.
if I knew how, I’d make the mod myself
Already debunked.
It's been rebunked.
This is the tutorial planet, Jez Corden confirmed this isn't true, and despite what trannies on Ganker say, there's 0 track record of lying. Keep coping though, BG3 is gonna lose.
>tutorial planet
It isn't.
>there's 0 track record of lying
lmao, bethdrones damage control in full effect
>Different studio (Bethesda Austin)
>Irrelevant time wasting video unrelated to this topic
It is, you can revisit it after the tutorial is over and explore it fully in any and directions with no limits.
Guy behind a lot of confirmed leaks long before anyone else leaked anything.
>It is, you can revisit it after the tutorial is over and explore it fully in any and directions with no limits
Lmao
>Jez Corden
Who?
A well respected video game reviewer.
a literal microsoft shill
I've seen the first hour of this game. this is not the tutorial planet
The mission and this location are part of the tutorial, see
16 times the detail was in reference to LOD, there was no lie, just brainrotted trannies who have no comprehension, these are the same morons who say the game has only 1000 planets, when they've explicitly said OVER 1000 and this doesn't even include moons, space stations, and other things you can explore/land on that are neither of those.
Problem with the truth BG3 troon?
>BG3
Lmao
nobody’s complaining about the number of planets being too small, el morono.
if anyrhing, people are complaining because the more the planets the worse their quality (which we can clearly see in OP’s pic by the way)
The tutorial mission with a forced outcome on a planet you can revisit with 0 invisible borders or limits? What is there to see BG3 troony?
Cope
I like how you didn’t address the main point of my post (that being that nobody is complaining there isn’t enough planets)
>mission boundaries
literally nothing indicates it only happens during missions.
The planets aren't empty though, that's a hot troony stinky poopy disinfo take.
How the frick do you know? The game isn't out yet and the only leak was forty minutes of some Black person shucking and jiving.
They theoretically can't be empty because they don't allow you to explore all of it. Just certain parts bound to have some stuff in it because you're locked to 4 to 6 areas per planet. Which is even worse than being empty. It's exploration for ADHD zoomers.
the fact that you have 15 outposts spread over 510 000 000 km^2, and 4 major cities among OVER 1000 PLANETS doesn’t really make the game feel less empty. I reckon the reason why they give you more companions than usual is so that you don’t feel painfully alone and bored in the sea of emptiness and “press E to mine” minerals
They straight up said some planets will be literally nothing but barren balls of ice. Why even include them at that point? Because it's 'realistic'? So are a ton of other space sim elements that they arbitrarily decided weren't fun. This is Bethesda's quantity over quality, wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle philosophy at its absolute fricking peak
To repetitively mine resources, same as this game's stated biggest inspiration No Man's Sky.
Nobody is forcing you to go to them moron.
That's not the point, moron. Why pour so much time/effort into creating all these balls of *nothing* instead of handcrafting interesting worlds to explore? Bethesda clearly just wanted to dangle a big number in front of mouth-breathers like you who clap your hands and start salivating anytime Todd strolls out on stage to hype up his products
Because they made a system that allows them to easily create lots of planets, and spreading the content out is a reason to fly somewhere. Imagine if Fallout 4 but every POI is on a different planet, then you get the reason to travel, to see whats out there, and maybe see some other shit along the way.
Because it's a space game moron. Even on planets with no native life or even any poi's you can either get resources from them or set up bases if you find them kino. Nobody is going to force you to go there if you don't want to. Zoomers need to throw themselves off a cliff, imo, an entire generation suffering from mental moronation.
I was born in the 80s, moron - I remember when video games were lovingly handcrafted experiences. All you homosexuals care about now is massive, empty, open-world bullshit. Saying 'oh it's a space game' is a fricking weak ass cope because Todd clearly didn't want to create a space sim. You idiots are just impressed by big numbers, it's fine to admit it just stop pretending like you actually care about any semblance of depth
Taking the time to craft a system that allows for the semi-realistic generation of planets/moons that, yes, could just be meant for quiet contemplation or base/outpost building is giving the game depth dumbass. And nothing about being born in the 80s stops you from being a moron. You're just a rare moron at that point.
For ice resources
>literally nothing indicates it only happens during missions
Literally nothing indicates it doesn’t, you’re leaping to conclusions based on a single screenshot with no context, despite someone who is currently playing the game saying it’s misleading
I know your tricks, Black person. If it gets confirmed you'll switch to saying "it's not a big deal"
multiple leakers have confirmed this but sure trust the shill who has no reason at all to defend his product
>muh Blackrock
Did they piss off the Chinese, or why is this company being shilled against so hard by the western useful idiots?
Yeah don't say anything bad about blackrock, only the chinese or shills would say that!
Nothing about Blackrock is particularly unique. If you hate what they are doing, you hate capitalism, but since this shilling is coming from the reactionary lunatics, they just can't admit to themselves that leftism is right, thus they have to delude themselves into thinking that the thing they recognize as evil conforms to their old programming. Hence this unique fixation on Blackrock.
>
All of you are disingenuous, LARPing homosexuals, not just the centrists and libtards.
>left-wing morons
Ideologically identical to the mainstream media and mainstream politicians on LGBT, immigration, abortion, climate change, etc. but still believes they're "fighting the system".
>right-wing morons
"We're gonna overthrow Biden for stealing the election!" "The South will rise again!" "I'll defend my right to own guns with my last breath!" ...all of these would require killing American soldiers and policemen, whom the same morons worship.
>russian morons
No, killing Ukrainians is the not same thing as killing Americans. Putin was one of the loudest cheerleaders for America's "War on Terror" and was secretly okay with NATO deposing Milošević in Yugoslavia. For frick's sake, Putin even tried to join NATO himself.
>chinese morons
The Chinese economy would collapse in a few minutes without America to trade with. The US media establishment, especially Hollywood, has always been hesitant to criticize China.
>0 track record of lying
Go watch the Oblivion 2005 demo video with Todd Howard narrating. I'm assuming you've played Oblivion. If you have, you should spot the first lie pretty quick when he shows off the jail cell. The most egregious one comes later in the demo, though.
>defending ~~*BETHESDA*~~
>posting this image
did you even look at the image before downloading it?
That's the intro mission on Vectera, not actual planet exploration, and he had to run for 40 minutes. We'll know more soon.
It's on Kreet moron
Black person
Dumbass
(you)
is it really that fking hard to generate a planet that you can circumvent in anno domini 2023
spore did it 20 years ago
Everyone told you this was gonna be the case from the trailers and footage they showed back then.
That's the entire gameplay loop of the game. You land on a planet, and you get the playable area of a skyrim dungeon.
Why didn't you gay listen?
>you get the playable area of a skyrim dungeon.
whole of skyrim, not a skyrim dungeon
dumbass
dont care. gonna play for hundreds of hours blasting shit with my space guns
learn the difference, chud.
the planet is madagascar?
This kills the shazamBlack person.
But who is Jez?
xbox shill, it will take years to fix starfield
When's the embargo lift?
31st
as if i would ever believe anything this neckbeard says. He is on microsoft pay roll, also he knows absolutely jackshit about the game, just acts like it for clout
he literally has a review code
>known shill lying his ass off for a product/brand he worships
>gets called out after product releases
>blocks people and never responds
>stays silent for a week or two
>gets back to shilling
every time
Who?
>posting a Xitter post of a literal, unironic Xbox employee
were you dropkicked on your head as a baby?
>But It's Not a Bad Thing
"You cannot know the full truth until the embargo lifts sorry", so it's confirmed. still walking for 40 minutes in a straight line aint so bad.
In new vegas alone thats practically reaching vegas doing a couple side quests
>entirely
Wonder how much work that word us doing there
Is it actually 39 min of walking?
That guy is a gigantic xbox shill and calls it a half truth. Meaning there is quite a bit of truth to it. Continuing to hype the game up is only going to lead to more people sitting on it during the early access and ripping into it.
>This is actually not entirely accurate.
So it's mostly accurate. Also that neckbeard needs to rope for butting in but then refusing to elaborate.
>just trust me bro
>refuses to elaborate further
lol
He’s under embargo you moron
idk bro, you got other leakers with pics and vids showing exactly what its like meanwhile you have mr shill saying
>uhhb bro thats like not totally true!!! please buy the game.
like he cant even say its false lmao. also the leaker just went to other planets and its the same boundary shit so this cope of
>muh tutorial
doesnt hold up
>"it's not entirely accurate"
>refuses to elaborate
>shills
>it's not the fully story, tune in to my twitter for more on that later!
lol moron
>Planets aren't fully explorable, here's proof.
>Well I say differently. No I can't prove it, I don't need to.
Black person with a camera is the only authoritative source we have on starfield
Frick your AAA space slop. All the chads are waiting for the Cracktorio space DLC.
>literal autismo game made from a minecraft mod
>chad
you will soon transition
>Toddwienersuckers btfo
LMAO
ITS OVER
Already debunked BG3 troony, you lost.
That's right the game that will lose to this GOTY
Obsessed
Anon, you do realize most BG3 fans are also rooting for Starfield...right ? Like, Skyrim and such were a hit with the trad RPG types for a reason. Why push your artificial headcannon ?
Both of them will handily lose to TotK. It won’t even be close!
I fricking hate Zelda homosexuals, and Nintengays for that matter also, nothing can win goty when they release something because all the reviewers have a bias towards anything made by the chinks, 10/10 for totk is fricking moronic its a re-release of a 2017 game.
I'm going to play both albeit
This can't be real... It is fricking over.
fake and gay, the leaker isnt credible
>tutorial planet
But it isnt
Todd lied to me. Todd lied to me for the last time and now he's going to pay.
This is bullshit. You can't win against this kind of people.
If there was indeed a whole explorable planet everyone will cry l "frick this empty openworld", "wtf a biome is 100m diameter".
I can only understand 'omg but they lied', this game smells because we still dunno nothing about it. But if you have played a Beth game in the last ten years you know what it will be.
Good morning sir
It's amusing that people are somehow surprised by this, this is Bethesda we're talking about. They outright said that this would be the case in interviews about the game. It's a garbage system all the same and it wouldn't have been hard to use oxygen or signal strength as the reason behind the limited on-foot travel, rather than just saying "SORRY KID, GAME ENDS HERE".
Kek Bethesda drones in full damage control
I bet when you land on a planet you only get 1-2 procedurally generated tasks like a space raider fort and a space deathclaw den
>enjoy fallou4 combat
>enjoy roguelite slop
>enjoy space
>hate aliens
>enjoy Ganker tortanic doom posting
Every day it seems more and more like Todd made this game specifically for me at the expence of anyone else enjoying it. Thanks Todd
There aren't any roguelite elements.
Also it's as much as space as Bethesda calling this a train
People still act like this was dumb when taking a glove, aligning it around a players head and altering the players movement is far smarter than making a vehicle for the purpose of a few seconds on a rail.
Considering the metro is a large part of DC, yeah it is dumb and lazy too, but most importantly it shows how shit the gamebyro-creation engine is.
It's not smart, it would've been smarter for a cutscene to play but even that requires some effort so the game doesn't break
Are we getting proc gen crap or not? The doom posters keep saying it is but they see that as a negative so no idea if it's true
There is a cancel button, morons. You can continue on if you press it, but it means there's no real set pieces or quests or anything set up outside of those boundaries.
Top tier bait
It still doesn't loop to the next are, its like enabling noclip. There are 4 seperate maps per planet and you can only go between them from your ship, from what they've said in interviews about the grid system.
Clicking cancel will just allow you to turn the other way and walk where you came from, there'll be an invisible wall beyond that point.
I blame consoles and Bethesda outdated engine that they refuse to update beyond few small tweaks instead of completely overhauling it.
The Series S holds back gaming yet again.
Keklmao! They claimed that? And you fricktards believed it?
Aaaayyyylmaooooooooooo
Hans! Bruno! Günther! Hermann! Come here! These idiots thought they'd get a AAA space minecraft!
Lmao gamebyr- I mean "creation" engine showing it's age yet again
>t-this times gonna b-be different guys, I s-swear
how many Bethesda games have we now that all follow the same basic formula? yet this ones going to be the one, amirite?? holy frick this is some battered wife shit
new vegas sisters winning big time.
You can walk across New Vegas in less than 40 minutes. Same with Skyrim. Every single section of Starfield is larger than that.
Every single section of Starfield is also 40 times as boring and lifeless than Skyrim and NV
Game isn't even out yet?
>Every single section of Starfield is larger than that.
and NMS is larger than every section of starfield. It doesn't matter because procgen is trash.
>You can walk across New Vegas in less than 40 minutes. Same with Skyrim.
I dont believe that.
Obviously it was always going to be Mass Effect 1, but Fallout.
Which is exactly what I want. I'm still waiting a year to buy it, when we get a GOTY Edition that's discounted, with all the DLC included, and the modders have had time to open it up.
Gamebyro engine strikes again
>SEE THAT MOUNTAIN
>YOU CAN CLIMB IT
Don't care at all. Just pre-ordered another Premium Edition just for you.
You fricking butthole.
True, homosexuals like this dude are the reason gaming is so shit these days
No you didn't. Thats 9 months salary in your country and you are unemployed and useless.
I'm a U.S. coastal elite b***h. I could probably find $100 USD in my couch cushions.
>I'm a U.S. coastal elite b***h.
Can't be. You're not asking for walkable cities again on twitter right now.
" I chose to go to a mostly empty resource world out of 1000 posible palces and spent 5 hours there and it was mostly empty"
Meanwhole the next planet over is a pyramid and a town with 4 hours of quests and a ship yard
There's literally no benefit to pre-ordering anyway. All you get is some gay fricking paintjob for a couple of your items.
I pre order so I can play when the game releases like everyone else. If you play like a week or two after the game is out and everyone has stopped playing it makes you a fricking loser
why would you even buy games that die in 2 weeks anyway?
All games do that
You sound like a teenage girl
I can not wait until your ass gets stuck on some game breaking bug
Glad to see that my high school bullies are being stripped out of money by mega corporations using peer pressure to sell them products. Stay poor moron, just don't complain about your student debt.
Just buy it the day it comes out? By the time you get home people will already be able to give you a good idea if it's crap or not
Everyone is buying it moron. Don't be a fricking clown who isn't playing it
Ya I'll buy it and play it the Friday after it comes out, assuming itnisnt horrendous trash. But why give then money ahead of time? It's just dumb
Fricking dumbass. Guess loser is something you're born as.
Shut the frick up dumbass
You sound like a woman but you won't ever be one
You wish virgin
>ALL THE CADDLE JUMPED OFF THE BRIDGE SO I MUST TOO
Braindead moron, I bet you took the clot shot, just do everything people tell you to do, you will live a long and happy life, dumbass, wake the frick up!
>JUST CONSOOOOM
>MUH FOMO
Starfied chills are subhumans.
Did people seriously think that you could? In a Bethesda game? In a post-NMS world?
WOAH, BETHESDA LIED?
WHO SAW THAT COMING!?!?!?!
Todd here, just wait for the day one patch, they are playing an old build, I won’t let you down
>load in
>finish tutorial
>try to explore my first planet
>invisible border
>oh shucks
>see that day one patch™ released
>install
>load save
>invisible border again
>press X to load more terrain
>the games loads me in on another planet entirely
>10^28 KM away from my ship
>mfw
They lost me the moment they made the game 70 currency
>made the game 70 currency
What a weird and jarring way to say this instead of just using the symbol for whatever currency you have.
>>70 currency
>symbol
>just using the symbol
moron detected. Take the Jungianpill and you'll understand just how wrong you are.
tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies.
I can't believe Todd lied to us. Again. How could anyone have seen this coming?
GOD DAMN IT TODD
TODD LIED
PEOPLE DIED
Frick off NMS shills, your game sucks
If you morons couldn't see exactly what this game was from their first real trailer, then you deserve to be lied to and fooled.
We knew what it is, and we pre-ordered. The only idiots are the ones complaining it isn't NMS
Ganker needs to come together and file a civil suit against Todd for his lies. This shithead has taken advantage of his consumers far too many times. Email me for the discord link and we can discuss the legal proceedings.
sent
And you homosexuals were saying exploring the entire Hyrule including skies, caves and underground without loading screens on mobile hardware was nothing special
>can't circumnavigate planets
>but can fly to another solar system in real time
Priorities, I guess.
>can fly to another solar system in real time
HE MISSED YESTERDAYS THREAD AHAHAHAHA
Stop making me horny, thanks.
Got a link?
Got a link to the thread?
I CAN'T BELIEVE I TRUSTED TODD HOWARD AND I WAS LIED TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think anyone with genuine hype or positive expectations for new Bethesda games after what Oblivion turned out to be are either moronic or merely pretending.
Admittedly though I am looking forward to having a """new""" sandbox to eventually bury with mods.
What the frick is oblivion
Snoys must be mad about something if they're spamming the board with this.
They're fricking terrified
What the frick were they honestly expecting? 16 year olds are always going to have the same inane beliefs in what'd be in a Bethesda GameBryo derived game no matter the era.
This boards obsession with “winning” and “mindbreaking” Ganker has to be the worst trend in the last couple of years. It’s always been here but it’s really accelerated and it floods every fricking discussion. This board used to hate corporations now they worship them like California trannies do. Literal, unironic Black personcattle in every sense of the word. It’s a common trait with zoomers these days though, their “personality” is manufactured for them through viral marketing assault of the senses so I shouldn’t be surprised that as they continue to flood in this type of shit gets worse.
you lost. its over.
Mindbroken
esl moment
>I don’t like that you called out my Black personcattle behavior so it’s ESL
Ok, go ahead and pre order some more slop
Based and frick all the Black person zoomer bethdrone shills who replied to you. I 100% agree with you
>in the last couple of years
Tell me how much of a newbie you are without telling me you are a newbie.
can't believe how anyone using buzzwords in every sentence they shit out of their head can possibly complain about trends.
...why would you want to explore a barren planet?
I would if it was handmade. Loved exploring empty places like Shadow of the Colossus.
[sweet little lies starts playing]
Well, I knew their engine was too limited for such scale, but I've expected they will hide boundaries somehow
I don't understand why so many people had that high of expectations of fricking BGS of all studios
Well, it's hard to understand why they tried to make such game when all they could do was Fallout 4 with new maps as planets
and people here called me a moron when i said there would be invisible walls LMAO
The image could be fake, another text box has transparency
lmao just stfu
Oh did I hit on something? Why would one example of the standard text box have transparency, and another be solid? Because they copied the shipbuilding box and filled it in solid and faked the text.
>There is a Flight Check that will give you warnings or errors if your design is invalid for any reason.
for example if you want to flay around the planet
>playing goyslop
>2023
The game isn't even released yet, you dumb fricks. The day-1 patch isn't out. And a screenshot has zero context. You have no idea what the circumstances of that screenshot were. It could have been a quest restricted to a certain area or a tutorial.
I swear you people are so fricking moronic some times.
You don't need leaks to realize its being held back at every turn by console limitations.
wtf bros
>Fauna: None
>Flora: None
ITS OVER
>TEMPERATURE: COLD
The absolute state of american IQ's
this is what global warming will do five years from now. still think its funny?? #StopOil
Looks like Earth's Dynamo stopped and we lost our magnetosphere holy frick
>magnetosphere: none
huh? how far in the future is this game supposed to take place in?
Should've eaten zhe bugz, chudz.
It just works
Stuff like this is why physical copies are going to be completely dead come next gen. Everyone thank the leakers. Your next game box will be a piece of cardboard with a code, just like some games are already doing.
>are going to be completely dead
it's already dead Black person
it's already dead
even if you get a disc you have to download a 50 gb day 1 patch for the game to work pretty much every time nowadays. you consolegays have been coping for years now.
No, the reason why physical copies will be dead is because games will get even more broken so people want a refund and run into gamestop to get their money back. Without a physical copy they can't do this anymore. Welcome to the future of gaming.
STAY INSIDE THE BOX CHUD
>games on console
yeah Im not surprised
Exploring a whole planet on foot sounds like it would be impractical anyway. I actually prefer this method.
You need to pay $40 for the explorers pack.
not shilling for Bethesda but why do you morons want to explore an entire planet? video games can barely fill their worlds with content as is, go outside homie
Because nothing about this game is interesting except for it's supposed scale.
>it's
>it is
>Because nothing about this game is interesting except for it is supposed scale.
lol moron
Its all very moronic. Some people thought this game was going to be a space sim, not a bethesda RPG in sapce. They are strugglnig to make any sesne. They claim the game is empty, and yet simultaneously want to explore the whole planet. They seem to have missed the fact this is an FPS RPG with a story and a backdrop of multiple worlds.
Imagine buying Toddslop in 2023
And they're not going to get even half the backlash that the NMS devs got
Of course not, same with nintendo. They can do the shadiest things without their fans giving a frick about it. It's literally a cult.
Todd is Goddposters will make sure that his word will not be lampooned on the day of release.
Why would anybody WANT to traverse a digital planet on foot?. Does that sound like fun gameplay to anyone?.
No, nothing about this gameplay looks particularly fun to me at all, really.
the gunplay still looks worse than NMS(see: dogshit)
Show me some NMS gunplay
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That's what ground vehicl-
Oh wait, Starfield doesn't have those.
>WHATS THE BIG DEAL ABOUT LADDERS! YOU DONT NEED LADDERS, NO IM INCAPABLE OF SEEING THE BIGGER PICTURE AND WHAT IS IMPLIED BY NOT BEING ABLE TO FIGURE OUT A SIMPLE LADDER
>I AM ALSO SOMEHOW VEXXED THAT THE GAME THAT CANT FIGURE OUT FRICKING LADDERS DOESNT HAVE GROUND VEHICLES, HMMM
the writing was on the wall really
normies and such are obsessed with huge empty open worlds for some reason.
>BRO YOU CAN LIKE LITERALLY GO ANYWHERE IT'S SO FREE AND OPEN
even though literally all it is, is open empty space. I dunno, it's a trend that began back in the late 00s and ever quite went away.
yes, but only if it were multiplayer
traveling a procedurally generated world in a solo player game sounds quite boring
space games are always boring
dumb move by Bethesda
You would assume that people would know better after Fallout 4 and Fallout 76...
Reputable leaker and insider, Jez Corden, says that the chink is spreading misinformation and half-truths.
A gigantic shill that runs a fricking Xbox podcast not even fully dismissing it is your signal to cancel your pre-order now. Wait for the GP release 5 days later.
>not even fully dismissing it is your signal to cancel your pre-order now
Nah, he's indirectly confirming that there are loading screens in between zones/cells/regions, but that they aren't a big deal in the way that they function. You will likely be able to reach the border, note it on your map, then move your ship just across the border and then continue in the new zone/cell/region.
It's a little annoying, but nothing major, especially when you consider that you can run in one direction for 40 minutes straight. How fricking often are you going to be doing that?
>How fricking often are you going to be doing that?
Constantly because I have autism and explore the entirety of each and every map when I play games.
>half truths
so it's true confirmed
>so it's true confirmed
See
yep, true
"pls read my review!!"
Sucks Todd lied but if this is the worst of the bullshit so far that's better than expected, since when did we live in a world where people don't inherently know Bethesda are full of shit and over promise? Game looks good so far, if the worst part of exploration is that I need to use my ship to move between sectors on a planet I'll take it when modders are just gonna fricking patch that out anyway
Literally told you but you stupid children kept arguing against me. Space games are not meant to be played on Gamebryo. It's a clunky MMO engine for Elder Scrolls and nu-Fallouts, filled forever with loading screens.
very frustrating, the state of game engines in the vidya industry
how badly I want dev studios to make their own engines and stop licensing garbage like unreal engine
but then I see devs like Bethesda that do have an inhouse engine and absolutely refuse to update or move on from outdated engines
I know putting together game engines is a lot of time and money but still
I dont need devs using special inhouse shit, I just need them not using archaic shit with the craziest fricking hiccups wherein to go up a guard tower I need to sit through a fricking loading screen because vertical movement tied to an animation is seemingly impossible, yet some lone troony can pull it off with a mod on the nexus. Im not even mad that guns and shit are tied to oblivions magic system, its that all of the trappings are still so fricking clearly there, youd imagine theyd have spent the cash to make this shit distinct but no TOO HARD ON GAMEBRYO, you get magic fireball bullets
So is this really that bad, or is Ganker just reaching to find reasons to dislike this game without having to play it?
>So is this really that bad, or is Ganker just reaching to find reasons to dislike this game without having to play it?
It's a little bad, but not THAT bad. See
pretty bad because they marketed the game on exploring 1000 planets and this kills exploration. confirms it as a normie tier game for adhd zoomers instead of a game for hardcore gamers. mass appeal wins again.
>they marketed the game on exploring 1000 planets
Todd literally said that 100 of the planets have life and are important. The other 900 are just for material gathering and exploring uninhabitable planets without life.
>and this kills exploration
How does it kill exploration? You can literally run in a straight line for 40 minutes before seeing the border. Then you fly your spaceship 1 inch across that border and continue exploring.
it kills exploration because it drops you near points of interest and tethers you to that area. we have no idea if 40 minutes is the norm or an outlier all we know is that you can't roam around the entire planet finding cool shit and they dump you near points of interest so that you don't get bored. it's a game for brain dead idiots. like god of war raganrok level handholding in that regard.
>please stick to the area that has stuff and keep yourself busy there, you are unable to handle real exploration so we will hold your hand and keep you on rails
>you can't roam around the entire planet finding cool shit
Holy frick you moron, are you actually braindead ?
no shit, you are gonna scan a planet and land at a point of interest. why would you go anywhere else?
You can go do "Real exploration" in the middle of nowhere with nothing in it and find nothing. Oh no! Fast travel prevented me from wasting 12 hours of my time walking and finding nothing!
yeah its my bad. i forgot that triple letter games are for double digit iqs.
yeah you can go back to an indie game like NMS and spend another 20 hours shooting rocks with lasers
There is no "real" exploration. There is exploration and then there isn't. Starfield barely has any.
If someone told you there is an icy continent on Earth at the south pole for the first time, and said let's go explore this mysterious continent, but then you get on a high altitude plane, skip everything and land in the middle of snow next to a scientific labratory, you didn't explore shit. Every time you want to change locations you fly above the clouds and suddenly appear on some other spot. Again, thisis not how it works nor how people went around exploring Antarctica.
you absolute Black person I bet if Roald Amundsen had a fricking plane capable of making the trip he would have used it
and even then he only went to the south pole so he could say he could
no one wants to be a fricking surveyor in a video game it's supposed to be an adventure
Who cares? Do you have any idea how many people try and tried to hike across it? They probably could have flown and missed everything, but that's not the purpose. Your brain can't understand exploration because you are too domesticated.
>it kills exploration because it drops you near points of interest
The leaker showed that you can land anywhere on the planets.
Other leakers have confirmed that to be false.
>Other leakers have confirmed that to be false.
I saw him rotate a planet, then place a marker wherever he wanted and then was able to travel to it. From what I saw, it seems to indicate that you can do that anywhere.
What other leakers have said that's false?
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/161v6vf/starfield_leaker_recap/
Scroll down to the edits.
so basically if you land anywhere but MAIN QUEST ZONE on a planet you are landing on a RADIANT QUEST zone thats completely randomized and procgenned.
>BIG BIG UPDATE: Turns out I got the designated landing parts stuff wrong, and you can land on anywhere you select on a planet, here is the buddy explaining it :
>No. This was before I had gotten really into the game and learned that I could do that they don't ever explain it. There are designated landing zones on the planet but they're only like big points of interest. Cities mining stations etc. After I discovered I could just select a spot on the planet and land wherever I wanted I tested it to see the boundaries.
>There are designated landing zones and then landing zones that you can just create by clicking on the planet. But like I said once you land I believe it generates that boundary tile. Then if you want to go to a different part on the planet you can just click on a different part and go there. But I do not believe that these tiles exist without you landing there. It's not like you can go from one tile to the other on foot
So you CAN land anywhere on the planets.
yes but to call that exploring the entire planet is so dishonest. You are simply generating a random area with a boundary.
>You are simply generating a random area with a boundary
The guy doesn't seem to be able to fully confirm whether they are just random tilesets or if they are actually coherent tilesets that are connected. I can't tell if the leaker is just stupid since he was unable to test it properly and give a proper answer.
You most likely need 2 people to land in the exact same spot to get to the bottom of something like that. So what people did with No Man's Sky.
im sure the tilesets are coherent. I imagine which tiles or chunks they use are matched with certain planet parameters, but again Todd and co sold this as far more than No Mans Sky bullshit, and as heinous as No Mans Sky is, it let you explore the whole planet, you didnt touch down on a football field with a boundary
>football field with a boundary
Being able to run 40 minuets in any direction from your spaceship is a bit more than what I would call a football field. Running from one end of Skyrim to the other takes 50 minutes, for example.
okay sure but if theres nothing fricking there or its just the same alien/raider outpost with diabloshit gear who fricking cares, dont market your game around this idea of exploration when thats obviously not the intent
Did you watch the direct? It was always pretty clear from that what it was I think. And it still looks good. It always looked like it would be bethesda game in space, and it is bethesda game in space...If you thought it was something else without actually looking at the info released, then you are the idiot.
frick off Todd, you know what you said, you know how you said it,I knew youd worm your slimy way out of it, frick you
Oh so you didn't actually look at anything about it I see, you just assumed it was something else than a bethesda game in space. Which is pretty stupid when you think about it.
>ITS SPACE SKYRIM!!! DONT YOU WANT SPACE SKYRIM
i want todd and co to get off their lazy asses and do something cool for the first time in nearly 20 fricking years
>You wanted something other than mediocrity!?
This is like saying Pokemon scarlet gets a free pass at being a lazy hack job that looks and performs bad because it's made by gamefreaks
And a typical Bethesda game is clunky and shit, which only gets polished by terabytes of mod. What's your point anyway?
My point is if you saw a new bethesda game in space, and dont like bethesda game, and saw the direct and didn't like what you saw, then why are you even still concerned with it? "Ohnononono this is just bethesda game in space," like this is some kind of "own". Yes you are stupid. I am in a thread about a game I am excited for knowing what it wil be like, and you are in a thread about a game you do not like the maker of, you do not like previous games, you do not know anything about it, and you are pissed off about it lol what fricking total bunch of idiots.
youre a redditor with no standards.
>I LOVE LE BETHESDA GAME
newsflash, b***h. "Bethesda game" isnt a genre, it is a box that you allow yourself sit comfortably in. These Black folk are bankrolled by one of the richest companies on earth and are going to make billions repurposing Oblivions code for the 15th time. Expecting some sort of quality control or growth in a company that consistently sets its sights on the sun isnt a negative trait, being perfectly content with playing oblivion again NAO WITH LAZORS! is pathetic
>not a genre
its at Todd-like.
>is a box that you allow yourself sit comfortably in
fricking lmao sniffing your own farts I see
you probably thought skyrim was revolutionary on launch, your words are incapable of hurting anyone, and favorite games are the textbook definition of goyslop
Their main margeting jango isliterally that they are trying something different. And I know Bethesda better than you, and I knew it was gonna be the same shit. It's you morons that keep defending their eternal marketing lies who are the problem, since you pay for their content and enable scummy industry behavior. I'm fine with their games being shit with half the sales and none of the lies, but you just can't let that happen. Have to show up on forums and use mental gymnastics to shut out critics.
Most "crtiic" is some moronic shit that makes no difference to someone who wants to play another bethesda RPG in space. Most is criticisizingstupid little shit like START MENU or things that are not "hardcore space sim". Its moronic to critcize something that is not a space sim for not being a space sim, don't you think?
I've made 20 posts here against Bethesda, but think the loading screen is great. The only good things about Skyrim were the black front cover (reminds me of Ultima 7) and the music. That's it. Don't straw man us as mindless children. There is always something inherently more wrong about defending upcoming games from a suspect developers before you have even played it than being realistically sceptical.
>trying something different
Yes, its different. Its not Fallout or Elder Scrolls. Thats different. It has some lements of a space game in it, thats different. But it will still have the bethesda style. Its like the Elden RIng of Bethesda RPG's. Its gonna be great,and you're gonna be wasting your time beign mad in a thread about a game you hate rather than finding a game you do like and having fun with that.
Lol what difference does it make when that loaded zone functions in its own time and space. It's physically removed from the rest, as the others are from each other. Only dummy normies get fooled by their lack of technical understanding into believing it's a real game world.
>that loaded zone functions in its own time and space
>It's physically removed from the rest, as the others are from each other
What exactly does this prevent you from doing, that you want to do?
Holy shit. Are you stupid? There is no interaction in the game world. Nothing goes on without your movement. There is no space ships at all until you go through a loading screen to change your model into one. The ships you see in the demos flying on the surface are scripted sequences like Skyrim's dragons. They don't even have physics. It's a illusion that insults your intelligence.
>Are you stupid?
Are you? You're incapable of giving me some examples of what it would prevent you from doing.
What's wrong with those examples provided? Do you think it's fine to enter a house in a Bethesda game and be transported to the ethereal dimension where the interior exists separate from the rest of the universe. Open world needs as dynamic of a world as possible, with as little loading screens as possible.
>Do you think it's fine to enter a house in a Bethesda game and be transported to the ethereal dimension where the interior exists separate from the rest of the universe
Yes. Why do you need the outside world to exist at the same time as you are inside, when you can't interact with the outside in any way? Give me some examples of what exactly you want to do. The only one I can think of would be to look outside windows and see the world, that's it.
If im running from a bear outside, and go into a house, its a lot more cool that the bear be able to smash the fricking front door in than be completely safe knowing the game will do nothing now. Thats dynamic, thats inventive, thats immersive, and fricking cool, unlike your gay by the books color by numbers game design.
>If im running from a bear outside, and go into a house, its a lot more cool that the bear be able to smash the fricking front door in than be completely safe knowing the game will do nothing now
Okay, I get what you're saying and I do agree. However, I don't personally think it's a dealbreaker in any way. Maybe it's because I grew up on all games functioning like that, so it's normal to me.
>its not a big deal, its completely normal
frick off Bethesda shill
Because then the world isopen and not constructed on lies. Dynamic events can take place in the world on their own without much or any player input. You could enter a house, but so could someone else. You could do some type of activity at the door if the interior and outside where in the same space. This extends to towns and planets too. You could see things in the sky that actually are there and can be gotten closer to. People would literally go about their business anywhere anytime.
Now your turn, give me a good explanation for why you dislike open world, and also why do you insts on playing and calling games open world if they are not open world? This is yet another one of those industry lies where things are made to be what they aren't. How many games call themselves RPGs to generate sales but don't even have 5% of Baldur's Gate 3's RPG mechanics? It's bullshit and we all know it.
>literal ideas man
All of that would be cool, but its not quite possible yet. We are still limted by technology. Most people's machines cannot run the likes of Cyberpunk at any decent frame rate and that kind of game is just a single map zone with very little interactivity or dynamic emergent physics based events or whatever. Game shat are trying full real open, are like NMS or Elite, which are lots of minimal emptiness but hey you can drive on the planet. star Citizne has 4 plantes, the NPC's in stations are decorative objects that move around sometimes.
It's you dumbfrick who couldn't generate any ideas on your own and kept stuttering to provide yourself examples. Don't cop out now and use ideas guy as an insult. If you had any thoughts of yur own you wpuld have figured out what a dynamic world means. In video game format it czn be something as fantastic as Dwarf Fortress, or on the opposite end of the scale, like Loadingfield.
>give me a good explanation for why you dislike open world
I don't. We're both talking about open world games. The difference is between if the "outside" of your peripheral are rendered or not. You think it's a huge deal if they aren't, while I don't think it's that big of a deal(while still recognizing that in a perfect world, your version would be ideal, obviously).
>Open world needs as dynamic of a world as possible, with as little loading screens as possible.
Yeah I think the issue is that modern gamers expect AAA games to be open world so they are let down by everything being so heavily segmented and that's why people are upset about this. Bethesda could have done a better job of letting consumers know this is how things were but I'm sure they loved gamers assuming the game was going to be this godly game that changes the face of gaming forever. All the Starfield hype is behind that, even on here shills tried to pretend it was going to be the next Skyrim, a modern immersive experience to push open world games further. Because even those shills expect AAA trash to be open world.
having it run on the series s should have been a major red flag. same w/ it being 30 fps on the series x.
You are not allowed to launch a game on series x without it also running on series semen
the s is lost likely why they decided to go this route and have different instanced areas. it has 8gb of ram it can actually use. it can't handle entire planets. consoles hold back pc gaming yet again.
Honestly it's just the escape goat, asset streaming has existed for a longass time so you could load shit on demand based on proximity, specially considering we have ssds. Heck, king's field 2 (Japan) for the PSX had a sizable map (for the time) and it has no loading screens after starting the game other than the very last zone which was physically located elsewhere and requires teleportation, the game just loaded shit as you move through the map.
Hahaha it's even worse than I imagined. I thought there would be some orbital minigame to discover the important locations qt first but looks like somebody already marked them on your map since you were born. Like I said, zero exploration. They gave you this false idea of "landing anywhere" which is just a boring gimmick. 99% of players will fast travel from known place to place and not even bother with autism resource mining on a random wastelands with the same aggressive 10 foot bug aliens on them.
>but looks like somebody already marked them on your map since you were born
99.99% sure you can just turn off the markers, if you want.
Lol genius. You can't find otherwise or even go there because everything relies on FAST TRAVEL. You don't discover, map out or explore anything in Loadingfield.
that has now been confirmed to be another Todd Howard lie.
Why would you ever have thought a bethesda RPG was going to be some kind of hardcore sim lamo what an idiot, seems nothing like it from anythngi I've seen, and I'm glad. I could tell what it was going to be from what was shown, and it looks great.
TOOOOOODDDDDDDD
there's like 4 of these threads and I don't get it
who in the right mind thought we would be able to? haven't we known it was zones for quite a while now?
>run to the border
>its flat
>fly to the next pixel
>game generates forest
immersion ruined
My game good your game shit
No, your game shit my game shit
outer worlds did this too
Outerworlds is the only game I feel bad for hating, I played the whole thing I like the aesthetic but it just never clicks it consistently reaches for an idea and then pulls back or fricks the landing at the last second. I wish I could love it.
Reminder that the peoples good faith has run out with Fallout76
Unless the game is polished excellently everyone will tear them a new butthole. And so far the leak is looking bad
>muh walkable planet
No one would do this shit
>I want to walk for years and completely circle the planet.
Why?
I love these threads, anons trying so desperately hard to make the most pointless and boring things the most important aspect of a game.
If you don't like western games or don't like bethesda games, then don't play them.
I think Genshin Impact is the most garbage game I've ever seen, but I am not going to make threads about how much I think it sucks, because that would be stupid, why would I waste my time?
It's not a space game Bethdrone, get it through your skull. The game is Fallout 77. Only the most delusional drone ever believed otherwise.
>its fallout in space
That what I knew..that what I wanted...only the morons were ever thinkingit was a hardcore space sim lamo
>noooo not my heckin immersion, I want to travel across a celestial object on foot with NO loading screens!
shill alert, don't believe anything this guy says
>don't believe anything this guy says
1) He is a reputable leaker and actual insider
2) He has confirmed that the chink is speaking in half-truths
Why should he not be believed?
>He is a reputable leaker and actual insider
lmao
>guy gets something wrong once, because Sony fricked something up
>NOOOOOOOO, NOW YOU MUST IGNORE THE 99 OTHER TIMES HE WAS CORRECT
Don't worry, someone actually trustworthy weighed in.
https://twitter.com/_tom_henderson_/status/1695478091101978680
He doesn't really clear anything up with that explanation though. We need someone to 100% fully confirm if you can go like this:
Land anywhere on planet -> Run in one direction for 40 minutes -> Hit boundary -> Mark boundary on map -> Go back to ship -> Move ship 1 inch across boundary to generate new boundary -> Continue exploring where you left off.
Faith in Hines: restored
I'm still looking forward to Starfield
>have to sneak past aliums detection
Alright, that's pretty cool.
As you land the planet loads, but only one tiny chunk of planetary volume does and all time ceases outside it during your stay there. You walk for 40minutes, hit aNother chunk, it loads, and the previously visited place freezes in time the same as the rest of all space and time. You'll never experience tracking a massive asteroid through space and climbing a hilltop of a planet it skirts by just so you can enjoy the show.
>you can either fast travel from your seat to the ship you just boarded or manually get out of your seat walk down and enter through the docking bay. But the docking day has a minor loading screen. Walking into buildings also has loading screens like old Bethesda titles. Someone will walk up to a door and fade out when they open it just like all other titles
It's Oblivion, with guns, in space. Regardless, I'll still probably have fun with it. No use letting my expectations run wild because of senseless "hype", I'll take the game as it comes. Fingers crossed the full game demo is out close to release.
whats with space exploration games and telling lie? was there a SINGLE game like this that didnt lie?
It's impressive how some people go out of their way to defend Bethesda, for free. They can't just keep their mediocrity to themselves, they have to go damage control for the game
It's impressive how some people go out of their way to make it seem like Starfield is a TORtanic moment, because zones are 40 minute in radius(Skyrim sized).
It's only one part of the issue with exploration, the biggest one thus far being the lack of fricking vehicles to explore a fricking planet, what the frick is wrong with Bethesda
They are hyper defensive in this thread. You can tell they are hellbent on liking the game and spending money on it despite everything pointing towards scepticism lmao.
remember Beth shills tried to tell us it was just a limit to the "tutorial planet"?
the same boundaries exist on every planet KEK. they can't stop losing
>reach boundary
>get in ship
>move to another landing zone on the same planet
>continue exploring
why is it that indies can make underdone exploration games in fricking godot but the trillion dollar microsoft company dev cant. Surely everyone would rather have 50 planets, 8 main quest planets and 40 cool curated planets with lots of cool shit to do, rather than ONE BRAZILIAN procgen isolated content cubes.
Todd is thinking ahead. There are 900 planets ripe for modders to go crazy on. This game will live on for 20 years.
Realistically, those 50 planets would take more time than the 1000 procgen stuff in SF (not defending it though), advertising "1000 planets" will be more eye-catching for normalgays though. If people call that shit boring you have an army of drones calling it "realistic" who will say nothing about realism regarding exploring vast lands on foot, because "realism" is good when it means Bethesda can be lazy
>earth temperature: cold
>moon temperature: temperate
the frick, why would they be different temperatures if the atmosphere is gone?
wtf did you expect? to explore 40 thousand kilometers of empty space?
Not like our own earth has much interesting shit to explore besides jungles
itd be more forgiveable to explore an empty fricking seemless planet than load(2-3 minutes) into 40,000 distinct and empty areas with nothing in them except a raider or two
The chink leaker clearly said that he walked for litteraly 40 minutes before reaching the end of his current cube and that he just needed to call his ship to start walking again
In how much games did you walk for 40 min in a straight line Black folk?
>Here's the problem those squares don't exist if you don't land on them. It's not like it's a whole bunch of squares connected that you get to pick and choose from. It's just the surface of a planet you select where you want to land and then you land there and a square is generated. I tried making four landing spaces directly next to each other and it didn't make the area any bigger. Each one of those areas were separate and not connected
>landing sites are completely separate from each other and not connected and from my testing they cannot be connected no matter how close you place the landing zones
OH NO NO NO HAHAAHHAHAHAAahaha
leaker confirming planets aren't even separated into cells, you can't boundary hop. every new landing spot is completely instanced and newly proc genned from the last even if you were to land 0.1 cm away from where you were a second ago. there is functionally no consistent planet, only a bunch of separate zones
BAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHJAH
its over. im refunding and buying FFXVI
I've never seen a single person bragging about walking a whole planet or even flying it whole in Star citizen.
Because it's boring as frick and meaningless.
The saddest part is that 99% of the people complaining about this whole thing are just nu-Ganker zoomers who are DESPERATE to experience a TORtanic moment. They don't even give a flying frick about being able to explore or not in the first place.
Delusional. The most ardent Bethesda critics are always the oldest. Oblivion was shat on long before Tortanic.
Where would you even see that when scam citizen gets laughed at here?
>instead of calling it 'levels' or 'maps' call it 'planets'
>make billions
TOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDD
APOLOGIZE
You guys are literally moronic, this is running on the same engine as fallout, skyrim, Bethesda, morrowind... a 20+ year old engine
And you thought they'd figure out how to get open world working on this engine on a massive globe shaped open world, or some kind of non Euclidean hack where spacetime circles back around?
You're all dumb as frick if you thought you'd be able to explore an "entire planet" even if it were to be fricking tiny. Bethesda could never get their physics and all their shit working on a fricking globe shape or anything. Why are you all so fricking stupid and delusionally optimistic about eveything?
I knew they wouldnt(see: couldnt) but I hoped they would
> I knew they would frick up, that makes it OK!
Except that's not how Bethesda words it. They claim it's always a new engine despite the obvious signs of lies.
? It's still on Creation Engine which they've made clear, they just update its featureset like they do every game, which is obvious when you look at things like the lighting/animations in Starfield
no,its on the brand new CREATION ENGINE 2 which is supposedly totally different and a big enough deal to fricking market it as such.
>thx, You cannot swim underwater at least the one time I tested it on new Atlantis
>thx, You cannot swim underwater at least the one time I tested it on new Atlantis
>thx, You cannot swim underwater at least the one time I tested it on new Atlantis
BETH REMOVED UNDERWATER FRICKING SWIMMING HAHAhahahah. every new game they strip out core elements but I really expected this to be in so we could explore underwater fauna and caves
Its over, my hype is dead.
Swimming will be modded in.