Notice how only the first five minutes of this 45 minute credit sequence is actually people who work at bethesda game studios, how the next ten minutes is just listing every voice actor role in the game, and the next HALF AN HOUR is 3RD PARTY DEVELOPERS - this game was almost entirely outsourced - look at the names of the third party developers - mostly indian. They hired cheap no-name third world game development studios to make this game - no wonder it sucks so much and is filled with the most half-arsed copy pasted content.
here's a list of the first ten minutes of that half hour that I could be bothered to type out
>EXTERNAL PARTNERS
>Iron Galaxy
>The Multiplayer Group
>Sperasoft
>Snowed in Studios - a Keywords Studio
>GameSim
>Nobody Studios
>Undertone FX
>Wardog Studios
>Virtuous Sparx
>ScythGames
>Rouge Mocap
>Red Hot CG
>Kaptured Motions
>Airship Interactive
>Lakshya
>Original Force LTD
>MindWalk Studios
>NXA Studios
>Goodbye Kansas
>GL33K
>Furylion Group
>Cubic Motion
>Cloudmark Digital Art Studios
>Keywords
>ID Software
>Machine Games
>Arkane Studios
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So what the frick is going on at bethesda? They haven't released a game in years and skyrim 2 is still in pre production...
As soon as they announced their partnership with Microsoft I knew it was over for them
That's a really funny way of saying liberal politics, which has been ruining everything from video games to entire nations.
holy shit Cortana got fugly
Actually she got realistic sweetie.
>realistic
what world are you living in? she's far uglier than most people I encounter on a daily basis
>As soon as they announced their partnership with Microsoft I knew it was over for them
it was over long before that
you know how snoy spent billions for bungie alone, while the ENTIRETY of zenimax was relatively cheap for microsoft to purchase?
there's a significant difference between the two actually
when snoy bought bungie, the contract was designed to EXPLICITLY hire long term everyone involved, because snoy doesn't give a shit about destiny, marathon or any other bungie IP, they only cared about hiring devs to develop future live service schlop for them
on the other hand microsoft does not give a shit about the current or future games developed by bethesda, so they bought the entire company, and the devs took the money and left. shit like this happens all the time during acquisitions
at the end of the day, xbox only needed a bunch of old, cheap games to slap on gamepass to make it look fatter, so the objective was achieved
i can't remember the source, but there was a rumor months ago of bethesda employees enjoying their yachts in the caribbean, with todd himself being among the few exceptions still working on starfield, because he was sincerely passionate about it.
ARE YOU MAD!? DO NOT REFUND OUR GAME YOU BASTARD DOG!
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The only thing india deserves is to sink into the ocean
Please don't pollute our oceans.
unironically the best answer to the Indian problem is to let China swallow them and genocide all of them Xinjiang style
Lol the future is unironically india taking over a nominally chinese ruled planet
>>Iron Galaxy
This explains a lot.
>QA
>Development
I feel bad for qa, they keep calling them qa "engineers" to attract morons.
SIRS I SEE MY NAME IN THE CREDITS
Congrats sir! I hope you can feed your family using the shill money and - maybe - one day buy a real toilet
important for the resume kind sir
welcome to AAA development
Go ahead and check the credits to any triple A game out there. You'll find similar stuff
It just werks. Gotta hire the shittiest labor available for max profits and the moronic noggs will buy it regardless and defend this slop
I knew this from the start. GTA6 will be exactly the same. That's why I've stopped buying most AAA(A) games, don't care how much shilling people do here on Ganker or elsewhere.
have a nice day moron no one cares about your moronic vegan life choices.
seething street shitter
I'll buy $150 GTA 6 even just to spite on you.
ok consumer
--------->
>NOOOOOOO U BLOODY BASTARD b***h I FRICK YOU BLOODY
So Bethesda is doing what every other studio does? Man, how horrible. They should only work with true red-blooded americans from Texas and take 30 years to finish their games, like Tamriel Rebuilt.
An all american game dev team at bethesda managed to make Oblivion with ~100 people without outsourcing, and that's a significantly better game.
No, Oblivion is shit.
>Oblivion is shit.
You have to be older than 18 to be on Ganker
moron 360 kiddie
Damn, that's the biggest strawman I've seen in a while. You think there is cohesion when they outsource a bunch of work to different studios let alone studios from different countries. All these places with different standards and quality controls? Prone to miscommunication through different languages. Think about it for a second before some south park tier quip comes out of your brain.
gotta love when somebody with not a single second spent developing games professionally says something completely moronic because they saw a cherry picked screenshot of a youtube video
This. Only a moron would imply that Bethesda has shit quality control.
nice argument homosexual
i dont need to make an argument, your statement was beyond moronic. thats like not understanding that noodles are cooked in a pot of water. im not going to start explaining basic shit to you because you've never stepped in a kitchen in your life. if you want to claim that the chef cooks them in the oven because you dont know about the existence of pots and think it must be cooked the same as a meatloaf. you are beyond moronic and i dont need to waste my time with you
Lol, do you think pretending to know what you are talking about is an argument? Please stop being such a pathetic shill.
>do you think pretending to know what you are talking about is an argument?
no, thats why im calling you out. thats what you're doing.
>I know how all this works! Therefore you are wrong!
>No I won't explain how it works because I am above you!
Please get your head out of your ass
thanks for admitting you dont know how it works and need me to explain it to you
Thanks for being a moronic shill "Chef"!
>calls me ignorant before admitting he doesnt know what he's talking about because he's projecting
>calls me a shill because...
accuse them of your own crimes
>moron has no argument so he makes food analogies
typical
LMAO leave it to the frickin line cook to say the dumbest shit around... go buck some ket and chuff a dart before you get back to closing, Black person. The correct analogy would be if you ran a restaurant and had the indian restaurant up the street do your noodles, the chinese shop on the block does your rice and "chicken," another shop sears your steaks, meanwhile you just put it together on a plate with the same frickin salty ass bags of mash you've been steaming for the last 20 years
Larian doesn't .
Nor Obsidian.
Nor Owlcat Games.
Nor CD PROJEKT RED.
>Larian doesn't .
they literally publicly apologized for rolling out a hotfixed that made every save game corrupted because they didn't QC what their Malaysia site rolled out.
They have a studio in Malaysia, they don't outsource to 3rd parties.
you dont know, from the names alone, what is or isn't "3rd party" or simply from a potential in-house India site. Plus. if those studio's are owned by Microsoft, then those are part of the global resources from Microsoft and an executive who's ass is on the line to deliver the game would not give a shit that they are officially under different management.
moron. The Malaysian studio worked on the fix along with the Canadian studio.
>lol you didnt remember a detail exactly right
need I remind you they are a BELGIAN studio, you moronic Black person? you just proved my point.
>need I remind you they are a BELGIAN studio
Did you learn how to google before spouting bullshit, frick stick? Good job, you're learning! Let me know if there's anything else you're too moronic to figure out.
you defend Bethesda so you lose by default
>Nor CD PROJEKT RED.
You should go look at Cyberpunk's credits because half of it is dedicated to "Outsource Partners"
That pretty much explains what went wrong then doesn't it?
Just went to BG3 credits to check and it's full of pajeets. have a nice day.
>Studio Head-Prune Mayank Rajpoot
HAHAHA IT'S HIM AGAIN
what a hardworking man!
>Mayank Rajpoot
new alias just dropped boys
utterly mindbroken lmao
You got BTFO, if you want to start blaming 3rd world shitskins for games you'll have to blame everything made in the past 10 years.
not hard to do, honestly
Explains why I couldn't bring myself to finish the third act. GOTY my ass, it would explain why this fricking slop suddenly performs so badly while being full of logical inconsistencies and bugs after 6 patches with thousands of fixes. I have to give AC6 a try, because right now I can't even bring myself to pirate most of the zogchow released this year.
>all pozzdd garbage
why does bethesda even have employees then if they just outsource the whole fricking project?
why not do the shit in-house and ensure that the game doesn't fricking suck?
Most studios use Korean and Chinese outsourcing, not Indian, though.
>So Bethesda is doing what every other studio does?
Yes and it's bad.
AAA development is in a terrible state.
Bloated budget, bloated team size, bloated development cycle, and they -still- have to outsource everything. It's not a sustainable business model and is leading to lower quality games.
HD graphics were a mistake.
AAA development is in a terrible state for the same reason the rest of big tech is. CEOs and other corpo types keep giving themselves raises while downsizing their studios and cutting the salaries of their employees. then they turn around and give their studio a 730 day deadline to produce a game that would take at least 3, maybe even 4 years to put together. no shit every new game getting released is being held together by bubblegum paper clips and tape.
i thought that would just be a good eyecatch image, but i forgot it has the game logo in the bottom right. goddamn it. lol
i knew it was a futa game, but i straight up did not see the wiener in that image until you pointed it out and now i'm laughing my ass off. i guess that'll be the one and only time i use that image. good post anon. hahahaha
Wait, wtf, when did SP get semi-transparent girls? Is this a teaser for release 4?
You can outsource, just not to India.
where else ?
to your Hispanic lands paco ?
South Korea, or eastern europe.
Lmao, imagine a latinx trying to use a computer.
>SK
I am sure asiatics are lining up to work for peanuts like pajeets or chinks do
>Eastern Europe
the only useful ones are vatBlack folk
rest are pajeet tier
sir sisters our response?
JUST TO ADD MORE CONTENT TO THE RANDOM GENERATION
moron
proof my point
Stop wanting to have sex with a child. Go put a millstone around your neck and jump in the nearest ocean.
She is 112 years old in the game
Still illegal though
Sir I made New Atlantis NPC generation all by myself, using just my knowledge and unity youtube tutorials. I hope you enjoy and redeem starfield.
BLOODY BASTRD core java is da india way. India on moon by core java
durga soft is literally worth more than going to college
Indians ruining Java's good name baka. No wonder zoomers prefer python.
>Bastard b***h!
Pradeep in deep shit
Sirs they spell my name wrong agian those bloody bastard b***h!
Meanwhile, the people that actually worked on the game part of the game.....
What's there to program? The game engine is fricking gamebryo. Enter Skyrim or Oblivion commands into the console, and they work.
These devs worked on Oblivion, and just have their names copy pasted into the credits because they were Gamebryo devs 20 years ago.
Keep moving those goalposts. Does the game even have a single curry in it?
I didn't set any goalposts, moronic Bethesda drone. That was my first post in the thread.
The game is dogshit in every way. By far the worst Bethesda singe-player game to date.
I fricking WANT Fallout 4 but with space exploration at this point over Fallout 4 but no exploration and extra loading screens and even more opening a menu to just hit fast travel.
Why the frick you Black folk keep arguing about this, would you argue that unreal engine 5 is the same as 1 you fricking moron? Why do normies never complain about CS GO using goldsource code? because it doesn't matter freak.
you dumbfrick, the gamebryo engine has rarely had any actual improvements, just tweaks and hacks. the performance is always shit and it's buggy as frick. other engines have had bugs but they get frickin fixed and don't get a reputation for being garbage.
if you don't understand what you're talking about just don't even post shit like this
this post is totally neutral on Bethesda is moronic "debate" (because we all know bethesda is moronic). It is autistically against you not understanding what the frick you're talking about while I'm an asspie at said subject
These people might as well be honorary pajeets.
They couldn't figure out how to make a game about exploring space actually have explorable space without just making all travel a fast travel menu.
what work? kek
>pheng
>smith
>nguyen
>janssen
>bilon
>All Pajeets
Figures since Microsoft has been taken over by poos.
>Studio Head-Pune
What does this role involve?
SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT THE FRICK A "STUDIO HEAD-PUNE" DOES!
I just thought "Prune" was the name of the studio
Pune is a city name in Maharashtra, Bharat
I think it probably means Studio Head of Pune Division
Is Todd racist against Indians? Is that why he wouldn't let a single one touch his code and relegated them to only touching art assets?
>art assets
Is that why all the NPCs look freaky?
Character artists are all in house.
>diversity hire names
I'm sure they are the best the industry has
>in house
>all those last names that you can tell that are non American sounding.
kek
>Benaissa Benchaa (@art_benben) Character artist @ Bethesda Game Studios, Montreal
>Ferdinand Reginensi. Senior Character Artist chez Bethesda Game Studios
> Alex Nguyen Senior 3D Artist at Bethesda Game Studios
Yes. They work for Bethesda. That's in house.
You looking for Chief Laughing Crow or some shit?
>last names that you can tell that are non American sounding
Lol what the frick is an "American sounding" name? It's literally a country of immigrants.
Names that been passed down from generations vs names that are clearly from China or any other Asian country.
Chinese last names aren't passed down each generation?
Not alot of Chinese even immigrate to America.
The only authentic American names are English names. I bet you're a Sanchez or Vladevic or something like that.
Like Runs with Bear?
American until the 1960's was a country of immigrants from white countries with almost the entirety of immigrants being european
Modern revisionists try to memoryhole this little fact when they talk about how america is a "country of immigrants"
>Italian, Slavs, balkans, Irish, Greeks
>white
Lol no
Jim Smith, one of ~5 million undocumented israelites living within the United States
>Zihao Zhu
Kek sounds like a racist name Id come up with on the spot
is that why all of the character models are ugly as frick?
seriously all of the Black folk look like black dudes with wigs on
>idea guys are in house bethesda talent
please kill yuoresrlf
It all makes sense now
Ubisoft credits are funny, because they're like an hour long. I don't get why it requires so many people to make these shitty games.
Why are Indians attacking themselves over starfield not coming to their playstations? Is it because Godd Howard banished them from the coding floor?
>Who is your Co-Lead Tools Programmer?
>Just a Christian Guy.
>Christian Guy
>Shiny Yang
Thank you, sir. Come again please.
Please redeem the starfield. Rajesh, Prajeet, Kumar and I work hard on npc modals.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of them lied about their names, and had super white sounding names like "John Smith".
Bharatbros... We Lost.
>le passion project
What the frick was actual Bethesda doing this entire time?
snorting cocaine off todd howards ballsack?
Posting on social media, and arguing with "Chuds".
Presumably Skyrim 2.
Because if this was seriously their best? Man it's sad.
c-c-c-c-c-c-cocaiineeeee
Nobody ever said that, Snoy. You morons always get overhyped then meltdown when things don't go your way.
paying e-trash like The Ack Man to shill the game
Probably working on ESO expansions and MTX
well.. im still gonna buy it
UGHHH i know i know....
still buying it
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
The real question is, do you think they tried to phone scam the elderly, while working on Starfield?
DO NOOOT REDEEM!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Of course, but that's what every AAA developer does now. I remember thinking a decade ago that the credits at the end of the Assassin's Creed games were getting ridiculous.
Why are Indians such bad programmers? Even the Chinese are better. Why can't this shit just be outsourced to China like everything else already is? Software would improve.
I always assumed it was because Indians are the cheapest, and somewhat know English.
AI is cheaper and probably better than pajeets.
If it isn't already it will be very soon and I hope all those disgusting pajeets get deported into the ocean.
indian programmers are trained in scripting languages and get their certification from diploma mills, while chinese programmers are raised on pirated copies of Visual Studio just like the first world.
from a macro perspective, the west is currently desperate to prove that it doesn't need china so they're diversifying their labor sources, with india being a common replacement target. but that is where reality hits them like a brick wall.
Only the upper caste has a comparable first world IQ.
Much of modern capitalism's problem is the constant failed faith maneuver of trying to get human labor as cheap as possible while pretending the world has equal quality human capital. As if for some reason good "Western" developers cost what they do simply because they are spoiled that they have gotten entitled and rotten. But somewhere out there is a Hyderabad slum there is someone just as good but for some reason he's moronic only in self preservation and wants to work for peanuts.
Indians also make for demonstrably worse engineers
They cut corners at everything in life, use connections with other Indians to get places and play the victim to benefit greatly from affirmative action
Probably best answer is
Things like soft skills and quality are not things to them at all--like they are incapable of understanding it as a society.
There is no such thing as doing a "good job" to them; just the job which is either done or not irrespective of its quality. But it's not quite so straightfoward as that because they ALSO lack independent thought and problem solving skills.
So you get an entire class of "worker" who not only can only do their job if there is a tutorial or stackoverflow post to copy and paste from wholesale (good luck getting them to explain/understand it), but sees nothing wrong with doing so.
While that's somewhat fine for a lot of trivial web app tier bullshit, it doesn't work for stuff more involved stuff like vidya where things like optimization, memory management, etc. matter
Our school, colleges doesn't teach how to use computers even if you enrolled for a cs degree , also the market is so overhyped and oversaturated that every boomer thinks that having a cs degree means that the child will make banks, only for him to end up in a data entry jobs
They literally won't do anything unless you reassure them 30 times to do it, most of their "coding" is just copying and pasting something that someone else wrote.
>Why can't this shit just be outsourced to China
Whatever you'd pay the Chink, there's at least 10 Pajeets lined up willing to divide that amongst themselves.
Indians are inherently incompetent and low iq
Sidestepping the entire "India le bad!" argument for a second, a lot of 1st and 2nd world countries actually have a severe lack of programmers which forces a lot of companies to outsource even if they don't want to, or rather, a lot of the time these companies don't want to pay an appropriate wage to newcomers or veterans in the industry.
It's a mix of shitty schools that teaches you jack shit thanks to under-funding, programming itself being an extremely complex thing to teach (to the point where good programmers never really stop improving and great ones are all talent but no schooling) and the industry having such high ambitions that there is nothing for newbies to sharpen their skills on which forces everyone to work on random bullshit github projects just to learn in an environment where they can't really ruin anything when they make mistakes.
You'd have to either not value your skills at all, be mentally ill or be some kind of a savant in order to satisfy most tech-companies today, preferably all 3 at once.
you're not any better chinkoid
I inherited a software project that was done entirely by Indian outsourcing. Within a day I found hundreds of issues and created a 3000 word long rant I might post over on Ganker some day.
But I'm not gonna put the blame on Indians as a race or some stupid shit. It's not simply incompetence, the people who wrote that code just don't want to be programmers. The quality of work is like that of some teenager that is forced to take an internship but ignored everything you tell them because they actually want to become an influencer.
What I'm pissed at are the sales people/managers responsible for outsourcing, especially the fricks that lied about getting work done in the West and pocketed the difference. The amount of bullshit and excuses they spew when confronted with reality is infuriating. Just no disregard for the people you do business with. It's just a massive grift, so I'm not surprised if India has developed a work culture that only produces the cheapest of cheap shit.
>But I'm not gonna put the blame on Indians as a race or some stupid shit.
Take a look at their entire fricking subcontinent and tell me they don't do everything like they do programming (poorly).
The only thing the average indian is good for is being exploited by the brahmin caste to shit out cool temples.
Correct accurate true. They're inherently subhuman. I have anecdotes of Indian morons during wildfire outbreaks, having a barbeque near some bushes fanning flames up the trees. Had to say to them wtf are you doing. They then made weird praying motions with their hands while saying please let them continue.
They all ate off the floor with their hands like the animals they are.
Poojeets can't even keep their own rivers free of shit and corpses. You really shouldn't overestimate them
Has anyone looked into those companies?
It could be some weird whitewashing scam for all we know.
i guarantee most of them are "minority owned" regardless
At least they can make masculine looking white male, er, he/him characters.
Why did it take them 5 years to release Starfield if they got all this help?
5 years isn't that much. Usually AAA games are in developing for much longer than that, they just don't tell you until it's ready to be announced.
FALLOUT THE 4TH was in development for uhhh 4 years. Half of shitfields dev time.
Starfield was made from the ground up tough, while fallout 4 was made on the base of an old engine.
Starfield is the same engine as Fallout 4, and Fallout 3, and Oblivion, and Skyrim.
Proof?
>Starfield was made from the ground up tough,
Don't tell me you actually believe that. It's still the same old Gamebryo engine, later renamed Creation engine, and now renamed "Creation 2" engine
sirs... do the needful and buy the game...
no SIRS! DO NOT REDEEM THE BALDUR'S GATE 3 MAM ARE YOU MAD?
dear god its like the stares from the roachs in Terraformars
>Indian
Stop deadnaming. They're Bharati now.
They're Poo in Loo
>Bharat
>bah-rap
>braaap
It's getting closer to becoming the official poop country
>bharaaaap
the hindus are never gonna know another moment of peace on this webite if this goes through. lmao
they have a puckered butthole on their flag and after you look at pic related you cant unsee it
Don't forget about SCAT-SAT 1
>Rajpoot
Lmao, this can't be real
Wow, just wow.
Is that all you got, Ganker? laughing at our hardworking partners? Don't you got better things to do, like, I don't know, playing Starfield and seeing how awesome it really is?
Discord is Desperate
That's every single western AAA game. Only a few Japanese studios like Nintendo don't use a ton of outsourcing.
So this is why they also hired pajeets to shill their game
Its funny how Ubisoft doesnt outsource as they just made their own studies in the places where you would outsource to instead. So they outsource to themselves in a way.
Imagine you were an Indian boy named Aadarsh Viishna Rajpoot born in Hyderabad in 1992 to a family of eight daughters and six sons. You and your family all live in a three room cement condo in the Vajpayeenagar slum. You and your fourteen other barefoot siblings each take turns going outside, beyond the trash-piled courtyard, to the dirt road next to the ToTo brand electric rickshaws, and poop along side of it. The smell soon becomes one of nostalgia to your nostrils. One day some Chinese conglomerate called Xiaomi comes to your hometown and gifts the people of Vajpayeenagar with smartphones and internet connection. For the first time you go online and explore the wonders of the western world. You post on YouTube and Twitter. You soon do it very often, just as your fourteen siblings and the rest of the 6.2 million inhabitants of your neighborhood. The internet is mostly in English you notice. Luckily you learned a bit of English while attending Queen Victoria Upper Primary School in Central Madhapur. You're not very good at it but people can understand you enough to tell you to go shit on the street. One day you get a notification on your Fiverr account. It's Microsoft offering you a job! They want you to help to program this new game called "Starfield". You learned how to search for JavaScript lines on Github at the Hyderabad College of Technical Sciences so you knew you were ready. You accept the offer immediately. Your parents are proud. You are the first in your family to leave the ancestral shitting street. That was easy! You are invited to a giant building full of pajeets, just like you and they're all sitting in rows and rows of computers programming away for this game called "Starfield". You sit at your assigned desk, pea bowl in hand, and look up at the sign. It reads-"1 rupee for 10 lines of code. Work will set you up a caste in the next life". You exhale and smile, yellowed teeth exposed, the smell of body odor and curry heavy in the air. You made it.
>Japanese game
>credits roll has effort put into it, illustrations, flashback montage, music made specifically for the credits
>Even despite all of the above, usually lasts just 10 mins
>Western game
>Credits music is licensed Black person muttering or completely generic almost royalty free sounding shit
>Just white text on a black background that lasts for nearly an hour
://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5yBTdXjj0g&t=2039s
West bros... It's over...
>would you kindly do the needful and buy the game?
everyone fricking hates indians. literally any other race is better than them even the most Black personest of Black folk. even the sjws probably hate them theyll just never say it because theyre a bunch of brain damaged pussy homosexuals
I'm still going to call India, India, and I'm still going to call Turkey, Turkey.
my friend revealed to me yesterday he was one of the "level designers" for the game.
he placed all the background trash through several locations, after rooms and general architecture were done.
and he sure as frick ain't working at bethesda, they have like 5-man office doing contract work.
yeah it was outsourced, the city reflects it
sirs
>the city is full of brown people because Indians worked on the game
ITT: deeply moronic tweens. just noticed school ended a couple hours back
OMG AMAZING I WANT BUY NOW
better quality:
good day sirs
I thought about making a mod to remove all diversity but it seems the game is not even worth it. Bethesda did really fall to the likes of Nu-Blizzard.
>Literally Black folk everywher
Should have called it New Atlanta instead.
YOU BLOODY BASTARD I WILL FRICK YOUR WHOLE FAMILY
no wonder it feels so familiar starfield is literally a over glorified mobile game
Welcome to all large game projects, moron
Only a lefty cuck would have trouble with a white studio using slave labor to make rock assets. have a nice day troony.
if only it were just the rocks
I won't buy tes 6 then. When I buy Todd's game, I want to know Todd worked on it, I want to know that he personally went into the office and told those subhuman programmers to add in 16 times the detail or some other ludicrous demand. I like Todd Howard's games, I don't like games made by third worlders passing floppy disks back and forth because they ran out of memory space.
For me it's that Kitboga episode where the pajeet opens the "nudes" folder and it's naked mole rats
I fricking hate pajeets subhuman scum
Checks out.
Mechanically, the game is an upgraded fallout 4 in every regard, which is fine.
But the writing legitimately feels like a machine wrote it. Every character just speaks like a robot, which is a shame, since for once, Bethesda actually used more than six voice actors. They literally, every single time, even hostile npcs, will always say 'I am x, and I do y things because of z reasons' and your responses are 'wow, that's cool','ok','give me exposition on thing you just mentioned'
Literally, without exaggeration. That is every single conversation in the game. And this is not without going into the performance side of things, which seems like such a giant mess that nobody, at any point in production, stopped to examine any of their systems and go 'wait, why does this work this way'
It's a shame because I can see a legitimately amazing game under it all, if it weren't so completely and utterly devoid of any creativity. The systems in the game are all pretty damn fun and the amount of shit in it is actually insane. It's just everything surrounding it it actually feels AI-generated. I refuse to believe these characters and dialogs were written by actually, breathing, living people. If they were, then the NPC meme is real.
t. 20 hours in and still kind of enjoying it
I would bet at least 50% of the writers were women. Every conversation feels like a team meeting.
You should have seen AC6 credits. The first 20 seconds was FromSoft. The credits are 4 minutes long.
I was wrong, it's double both of those numbers.
Here's the Baldur's Gate 3 credits. It's 30 minutes long and stops being about Larian about 6 minutes in.
>PajeetSoft is real
This is normal for modern AAA games.
Outsource 90% of the art to companies in India and China because it's cheaper.
GOOD MORNING SIR FRICKING b***h BUY MY GAME PLEASE REDEEM THE CODE
no shit, this is the norm with software development in the west now. Management and department leads hang out while some bangladeshi code house hacks together a game.
hiring actual software engineers in the west to deal with all the back end bullshit is expensive as frick
Remember when the people who made the games cared about what they were making and had the competency to make it work?
>Remember when the people who made the games cared about what they were making and had the competency to make it work?
most people probably don't. I do, and it was a long time ago.
It still happens but almost never in AAA.
that's more relegated to the indie scene these days
half the studios bethesda outsourced to are probably outsourcing to other companies too
Now they just get hordes of marketers to call anyone who criticizes their games incels.
They were the 90s. It lasted more or less up until F.E.A.R. came out in 2005.
Some of them still care. Limited only to the propaganda aspect of gaming, of course.
>a woman
Every fricking time
>A long long time ago, in an industry far far away
>rajpoot
heh.
I don't give a shit about Starfield but i do wanna talk about why the frick video game credits are so long? Does it really take THAT many more people to make a game compared to a movie or show? Or do they just include everyone who touched the project no matter how insignificant? I try to watch the credits because if i enjoyed a game enough to play it through i wanna respect the people who put work to it but by the time i get to the entire line-staff of the pizza place down the street that one time brought a pie to an engineer who worked on the typesetting for the credits i fricking tune out, man.
It's apparently everyone who touched the project no matter how insignificant.
> I try to watch the credits because if i enjoyed a game enough to play it through i wanna respect the people who put work to it
Huh, me too. Anyway, jap companies tend to list the company they outsourced to in their credits but with no individual names. Helps shorten those credits from 40+ minutes to just 10.
management bloat
look at those titles
Nowadays as games get bigger it's cheaper to buy an asset someone made like a rock or building than to use your time to make it yourself. This is why credits have bloated because you have to credit everyone who was responsible for the rock asset. If you check out the unity engine store, it's full of cheap assets you can buy and you have to credit them if you release an indie game too. It's just a matter of globalization.
worst part is they didn't even make a more impressive or larger game than skyrim with all the manpower. fricking pathetic.
>ScythGames
Scythgames is a young outsourcing company from Ukraine founded in 2013. The passion for computer games is reflected in our works.
Jesus fricking christ.
I will never give a single cent to Betheshit.
Time to quit video games, everyone is outsourcing even japanese studios.
>Lakshya
>GF, Akshay Tech Park
Plot Number 72 & 73
EPIP Zone Whitefield
Bangalore – 560066
Karnataka, India
Holy frick who many pajeet work on this game?
More like
Indiafield kek
I am absolutely sure that Indians steal assets from Westerners and use them to create fake portfolios and deceive these corporations.
See how common it is for them to get contracts with mega corporations, and when the game is released, the assets are so bad that they are laughable (GTA trilogy, for example).
Westerners don't understand how third world minds work. They are being deceived, but in the end I think they don't care, because even with low quality shit they are making money and pleasing the shareholders.
Society wide problem.
Companies can't (and frankly aren't incentivized) into long term goals. So when it comes to grunt work, they have two options.
Pay a premium via investing in a promising entry level candidate
Or
Pay a company to supply you with a revolving door of entry level Indians.
If you invest in a good candidate and they leave after 3 years, that's a huge loss. No such worry with 10 poo in loo's.
It's a self perpetuating issue. Companies aren't willing to invest in and build up entry level employees, which forces good employees to job hop after 1-3 years, which convinces companies that investing in their employees is a bad idea. And so on.
situations like these are why completely unrestricted capitalism is just as society destroying as communism is. its at this point that the government should step in and make outsourcing illegal.
and then make it illegal to designate the 'home base' of a company/corporation as anywhere other than the country of origin and residency of the majority of its upper management. they want to use poo in the loos? then todd has to LIVE with the poo in the loos.
yeah, imagine all of your autistic millennials and zoomers at the helm of videogames. the untapped talent, such a shame. face it incel, videogames are ogre.
Who actually works at Bethesda nowadays, even Todd doesn't actually get involved in game development now despite having a history of actual programming and design.
If you check the credits, it's the same people since morrowind in lead roles working on Starfield and mentoring a new generation.
The problem is they vastly expanded the past 5 years for Starfield, used Indian slave workers, and other developers in the zenimax household. With so many different companies quality control was shit. They have the same people they did 20 years ago. But now you have an extra 1000 people working on it.
>Rajpoot
Imagine unironically being called by this name
pajeetfield
Poofield
needfulfield
StaRedeem
rasheedrefunded
The amount of people who unironically believe that 10-figure budgets go to one single studio is bizarre. You don't have thousands of people working at one studio. Literally every single big AAA game has multiple studios involved, that's why the budgets are so big. This isn't some kind of secret either, this has been the standard ever since budgets started spiraling out of control. Like what the frick do you think happens to all of money? 100 million dollars goes to a team of 90 people?
>100 million dollars goes to a team of 90 people?
yes
How would that even work? Do they all have $500,00 salaries? Who is the guy that bethesda is paying $500,000 a year to model rocks?
Sorry if you dont want to see how the meat is made but just go ahead and look at the credits for your favorite $400,000,000 game.
Do you think Todd, Pete and all the other Zenimax heads are poor or something? I imagine their salaries are well over 500k.
>for your favorite $400,000,000 game.
None of my favorite games have that kind of budget, I doubt any of them even crack 50 mil. We get it you just enjoy goyslop, you're used to outsourcing, I'm not.
>None of my favorite games have that kind of budget.
That's because your favorite game is sucking wiener and you do it for free.
>That's because non argument and Ganker phrase I just learned yesterday but don't actually understand.
Every game in this picture is better than Starfield.
Buncha games for pussies. Your collection sucks, kid.
yawn
>MORE MONEY = MORE GOODER
Shut up you braindead homosexual, you're the reason why everything sucks now.
You're a moron. You expect to jerk off and have things magically get better? You suck 1 millions dicks for life, bitxh.
>spouts a bunch of incoherent nonsense immediately after calling someone else moronic
Expect nothing less from bethdesdrones.
Todd pls
>100 million dollars goes to a team of 90 people?
40 mill for 85 sub contracters to bang rocks together for 2 years.
2 mil for 5 managers for 2 years
58 mil for the big shill campaign leading up to release
Classic Manish.
https://twitter.com/thapliyalflp?lang=en
facebook dheeraj.chahal.52
Damn, manish, anupam, dheeraj. Bethesda always gets the best ones.
>MS turned id into support studio for Todds games
Bravo
it's why some parts feel good and others are terrible.
The designs for the model art for me is obviously not bethesda, Bethesda is terrible at that.
Guys, what is the problem?
>bethesda is a small studio!
>300 employees at most
>you can't expect much out of them!
Lol. Now that excuse is over too.
IT'S KYIV YOU CHUD
IT'S TURKIYYE YOU CHUD
IT'S BHARAT YOU CHUD
https://www.igdb.com/games/metal-gear-rising-revengeance/credits
Wtf bros, why doesn't platinum make games anymore? Look at all of the studios they outsource to.
I have said this before. Bethesda only makes Elder Scrolls games. The rest are just tests of concepts that can be incorporated in future TES games, but sold at full price.
I hope they take zero concepts from Starfield. I don't see a single thing Elder Scrolls needs from it.
Yes, I personally think that in general this was a failure.
What could TES possibly take from Starfield besides having the worst faces in any Bethesda work yet
The keyword is "test"
>worst faces
That honor will forever be Oblivion's
id software is the only reason why gunplay is decent, same thing happened with Fallout 4
GOOD MORNING SIRS
THE WAGES IN CALIFORNIA ARE TOO DAMN HIGH please understand.
Same amount of street shitting
bethesda isn't in california
>SIRFIELD
DO NOT LAUNCH THE SHIT
let me guess, it was done by some third world street shitter pajeets? that's why they were defending the game so rabidly on here and reddit?
yes
The hi/v/emind is so boring. It's only ever interesting when you try to predict what these monkeys are going to ook about next week
Outsourcing and hiring contractors is standard procedure EVEN FOR NINTENDO. Go look at BotW credits you'll see the same sort of story albeit with less pajits. If you think this is the reason Starfield is shite you're confusing video games with important security sensitive industries like aviation i.e. Boeing and the FAA's 737MAX regulatory capture leading to hundreds of people dying in doomed plane crashes. In the end the decision making and planning falls on Bethesdas main Starfield leadership they choose what contractors work on what gets included in the game what are the design goals. The decisions they made are the problem. Plenty of games release with massive contractor workforces credited, Starfield being shite isn't because of contractors.
i've said this multiple times in the thread but nobody gives a shit because at this point Ganker is just a shitposting toilet for tourist. nobody is interested in any kind of discussion because they use places like reddit for that
Ganker is moronic enough to complain about video games and yet not understand how the industry works.
this isnt how it used to work. The reason this is happening now is Bethesda has no talent in the company.
>NOOO YOU'RE LYING TO ME!!!
is it really that hard to just google the credits of other games? it's not a secret. you're acting like the names of the people who work on AAA games are a closely guarded secret and not something they show you when you beat the game.
Anon stop lying, they didn't do this level of outsourcing in the past. Companies had their own artists
yeah because in the past games didn't have gigantic budgets. what you're complaining about is what every big budget games does and has been doing for at least a decade
Didn't spend millions in marketing.
The industry didn't gross as much back then as it does now.
What is your point?
>Didn't spend millions in marketing.
LOL
it's because Bethesda is staffed by talentless boomers that don't want to hire more talented people for fear of losing their cushy positions. Its basically a boomer day care.
not to this level a lot of triple AAA companies have their own staff doing the work.
ok name them these games
again you just dont want to believe that outsourcing is done by AAA game. you're too scared to even look up the credits for these games
Stop lying, i'm not saying no company hasn't outsourced, i'm saying this level of outsourcing is unprecedented
All of this information is one google search away but for some reason people will pretend that it doesn't exist.
https://www.igdb.com/games/red-dead-redemption-2/credits
Go ahead and take a look at all of the indians and chinks that were making assets.
>still isnt reading people's replies
You are one brain dead motherfricker, arent you?
Have some more random games.
https://www.igdb.com/games/the-evil-within/credits
https://www.igdb.com/games/rage-2/credits
https://www.igdb.com/games/the-last-of-us/credits
It's like trying to explain to a child that santa claus isn't real.
>It's like trying to explain to a child that santa claus isn't real.
No one said games dont outsource a lot you illiterate moron.
>Then I guess the question is where the line lies
Its not the same for all studios but when you lose control and more important quality control of your assets. As someone else mentioned here, Bethesda's internal shits just ended up using the outsourced content like copy paste unity assets thinking that makes the game-- it doesnt. To be honest, their entire premise of the game was flawed with how it plays. There is no need for space at all, its entirely irrelevant to 90% of the game and could be accomplished by planet hopping like mass effect
ok lets see all of these posts where nobody definitely said that
>he still cant read
Neither of those posts said studios dont outsource. Holy fricking ESL
ok but ive linked a bunch of games that outsourced as much as starfield
?!?!?
you still didnt read the thread or post chain then because you are clueless
Ok so then what are you trying to say?
Ive spoon fed you enough, go back and read it all again pablo. I cant be bothered
You're trying to say that starfield does more outsourcing than everyone else. I am telling you that this is not true.
>You're trying to say that starfield does more outsourcing than everyone else
I never said that, not at all. Reminder: not all posters are the same person, but I am sure you are new here
Alright but you keep telling me that you mean something completely different but you refuse to actually tell me.
do you get paid to do this? lie and distort what people say to defend a lazy company.
Ok it's bad because of the management decisions to have that many contractors in the first place
why does that not apply to every game?
I mean I gotta play it. What else is there
It's too bad anyone can factcheck this and see that it's all bullshit since Bethesda is a small studio and hasnt been replaced by diversity hires.
>DO NOT REDEEM THE CREDITS SIRS
>Manish Bhandari
>Uday Joshi
>Ankit Singhal
>Dheeraj Chahal
>Pradeep Sahai
>Bireshwar Mukherjee
>Amandeep Parmar
>Anupam Thapliyal
>Manyank Rajpoot
Imagine the smell
When did this start? Did they outsource for Skyrim or Fallout3?
RDR2 outsourced to indians too btw
All AAA studios and major projects (see: blockbuster movies) outsource their art, models, etc. to some degree or another
what
is saying is the issue, though. Its the QUANTITY of outsourcing compared to in house development that usually causes the types of problems that are rampant anymore
Rockstar may have turned to shit but their QA is still better than Bethesda's, who doesn't know what QA is
And QA is a pajeet field
Then I guess the question is where the line lies. Would Starffield be a 10/10 if it had only outsourced to 26 3rd partiesinstead of 27? 10? 5? Maybe there were specific departments they outsourced that other successful AAAs usually dont
You Black folk need to take Todd's wiener out of your mouths
frickin lazy bethesda
>that anon that obsessively talks about todd and felatio every Beth release non-stop
I swear it's just the one deranged homosexual
no its a bunch of paid deranged shills
No, both sides do it for free
>lost your argument
>start calling everyone shills
lmao you lost Black person.
Todd Howard himself not even coding nor designing at all bc higher up won't let him. He's just a puppet for Bethesda, heck Todd is even more PR guy than Hines.. except Todd is a weird one, he don't do social media unless you count his redditgays comment on starfield sub before launch..
I don't know about yous, I've been shitposting on every Todd release since Fallout 3 and the seething is always good
it is enjoyable for me as well. I could care less if the game succeeds or not
What did Bethesda do for like 8-10 years?
Were they just collecting salary?
>Todd outsources some shit reskin of fallout 4, to fund ES6 so they can work on it for 10 more years
>40 minutes of credits with names in them
>literal thousands of pajeets hitting keyboards
>couldn't be bothered to make a few handmade maps aside from hub areas
So is this game just an inferior ME1?
Mass effect didn't force you into the procgen hell if you stuck to main plot
Andromeda tried and failed at that so they went back to square one, tried again without proven and failed so hard it killed its studio
It was still enjoyable as a mindless shooter where you skipped the story. Starfield isn't enjoyable as even that.
Daily reminder
Indians at lower positions will always suck up to those who are in charge
Indians will always hire Indians first, preferably from their own caste
The moment an Indian gets promoted, they will start to shit all over their subordinates and any colleague they deem 'below' them but will continue to suck up those higher in the chain
When an Indian becomes the manager/CEO/owner and that company will be Indian from that point forward
The Chinese are the same btw
Indian culture really is fricking horrible. Honestly worse than chinks.
Did you at least enjoy the game, sir?
I enjoy funny webms.
pls do the needful
Why is this even legal? How is there not a law that states companies cannot outsource all their work overseas?
Globalization, so good!
You can't hope to fight it. Demanding law to protect you is pointless.
There are laws that around 50% of parts in production have to be from a local source. I mean in India of course. Poos know it is important to keep things in the country.
It's a pretty good game.
it's fricking hilarious
THAT costs a hundred million ??? lmfao
I just checked, it says 400M
Wow. It's just one awful cutscene after another
I'm glad I stopped playing AAA games after Diablo 3
There's nothing wrong with playing AAA, just with buying them.
They're not worth playing. It's only been autism simulators since then and I have no ragrets.
>when the game switches genres on you
Why am I suddenly playing Silent Hill?
its a shame nothing is a threat.
DO NOT REDEEM THE SPESS GAYME SAR’S!!!!! PLEASE TO NOT REDEEM MY BLOODIE BENCHOD!!!
Kumar game.
kek
No wonder all the paid pajeets are shilling it, this was part of the deal they signed with whatever indian company they got their programers from. Code in the morning, shill in the evening, shit everywhere anytime.
Holy shot you guys are desperate. You don't know what to use to make the game look bad anymore. Game is great get over it.
Shut the frick up Raj
lots of f#!cking assets have to be made
That would explain why every level is rectangular.
Pajeets don't have the capacity for creative thinking.
It's why every scambaiting video is equivalent to a bug slamming against a window again and again and again
>mostly indian
Now it makes absolute total sense.
Jeetslop
Well now it's making sense why AAA gaming has sucked so hard in the past few years, there's no talent left at these big name studios actually making the game. Just pampered Californian millennials with no life experience or imagination being the "ideas" guy.
you're too stupid to push this leftist ESG narrative here Bethesda isn't in California, go back to your homosexual tekken threads and scream ESG and leftist there to your hearts content you homosexual board parasite discord shill
Yeah yeah sure all AAA games >need< to outsource development 😀
It's impossible to create a massive game with many different systems otherwise
Hello Games isn't AAA. It's an indie studio with a big name publisher.
this is sad as frick if you're going to do something like this why don't you hire asians
Holy shit, that must have been more expensive than it was reported
SAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR
What a sad state of it all.
GOOD MORNING SIRS
why havent they mentioned their pronouns?
to be fair all the internal development is probly on TES 6, if not then idk what happened.
It would explain how they've been developing two huge games at once.
Todd is a madman. He looked at the lazy Fallout 4 settlement system and decided to make an entire game around. Have fun filling up those empty planets for us, only at a cheap price of 100 bux.
If the settlement system(s) were actually autismo tier like Satisfactory then the empty planets wouldn't be an issue as players could literally make their own fun and add an almost unlimited amount of depth to it with mods. But I guess that toddy just wanted to subvert expectations with his NG+ system that is kinda cool to see once but that adds frickall to the game
oh i guess this was the space program they were talking about this whole time
>SIRS, I HAVE BECOMING THE A STARBORN.
YOU RANT GAR OF WAH? TOO BAD GAILO
WHERE IS THE MORE LOADING SCREENS MOD?????
I NEED MORE
LOADING
SCREENS
FFS
>WHERE IS THE MORE LOADING SCREENS MOD?????
>I NEED MORE
>LOADING
>SCREENS
>FFS
Good morning!
The world would be 100x better for everyone if india was nuked off the face of the planet. Prove me wrong.
switch india with the us
US is the only country that matters tho, the rest don't exist
Wow wow wow! India land on moon and give game for rest of world to see stars
Sirs this is good!
That's a generous assessment. They made no one make a game, they made a procgen engine. They're asking you to pay full price for a game with no skills or creativity involved in the process.
>basement dwellers need to achieve something in their pitiful life
>"yooo lets derail threads about video games!"
I cant imagine being this mentally ill
its Ganker theres like 3% on this website that need actual professional mental help
But what's the end goal?
Todd has surrounded himself with max 20 white people in one office where they spitball ideas and the rest of the development is done elsewhere. That'll be $100 please.
This is every game and has been for like 10 years, anon.
More a reality of crediting everyone at every company who provided one single reference photo lest you run a wry of twitter homosexuals complaining about being left out.
>This is every game and has been for like 10 years, anon.
That explains why I've not bought a aaa game since mass effect 2.
Nice try zoomer but 10 years ago you were in frickin diapers.
I'm 33 you homosexual.
Prove it.
yeah because they figured out they could just release shit like amongus and people will eat it up and rate it 5/5 stars every time. and they'll continue to do it.