>have over 120 games on Steam that run just fine on Windows 7 SP1 including recently released
>not going to be able to play them anymore soon because of a reason unrelated to actually running the games (Chromium compatibility)
This is so fricking moronic and unfair and after all the money I put into Steam to be suddenly cut out like this, it's not fair man I just got back into playing vidya recently too and they pull this shit what the frick man
>muh money
clearly you didn't put any money in
I can tell you're on a spectrum and play nothing but tf2
Put in money for over 120 games your reading comprehension is terrible
TF2 I haven't played in years, its War Thunder I'm playing mostly now
again not much better
get a life loser and stop wasting your time on freemium garbage
>just stop doing the hobby you enjoy
Frick you c**t, its gonna happen anyways thanks to this bullshit
You should be glad for Steam reminding you that you own nothing.
Eventually one day down the road years from now there is going to be a landmark court case that declares this type of "non-ownership" illegal. It may not be this decade or the next but it's going to happen.
>eventually the courts will make a decision to favour the people and screw over corporations for billions
Yeah, maybe after the next (1st) holocaust, but I can't see that happening this century, let alone this decade
I'm praying for another disgruntled European artist to take control of the unions
It won't be a court case but a historical research topic focused on a civilization perished long time ago, like when we research legal history of late Roman Empire.
You tell 'em, goycattle!
>using deprecated OS with security vulnerabilities and no updates
>wtf how can software reach EOL on my OS?!!?!?!?!?! They should update it indefinitely for the 4 people using it!!!
Man why the heck can't Windows Vista run steam, too? UGH
>runs fine no problems
>187 days pass
>won't run at all not because of an issue with the OS but external factor out of my control setting an arbitrary end date
Yeah totally makes sense.
>Not an issue with the OS
It's DEPRECATED. Do you expect Valve to indefinitely support all fricking Windows versions until the heat death of the universe?
No but while there are still endless amounts of games compatible with and running fine on Windows 7 on the Steam store, for them to just cut off access to anyone with Windows 7 from even playing them is really bullshit, its too early, you know its because of google and we all know how eager google is to keep any legacy support or even apps around
We shouldn't be encouraging these arbitrary EOL practices when they aren't even fricking necessary
Windows 7 support ended 3 and a half years ago, and security updates ended in January. This isn't arbitrary at all, this is Valve acknowledging the sunk cost and security issues of supporting the handful of people too stubborn to upgrade or change their old OS. You said ITT you play War Thunder, an online game. You are a danger, a hole in security ripe for exploiting. There's a litany of known vulnerabilities present on Windows 7 that will NEVER be addressed because it is past its lifespan. Drivers, programs, firmware are all rapidly dropping Win 7 suppprt. Just upgrade your fricking OS or move onto another one. I liked Windows 7 too, but I'm also willing to acknowledge why old software dies and the reasons for companies not supporting it forever.
i mean... they could just not shut it down entirely and leave it as is.
"it works till it breaks"
or is that just not an option anymore?
It is working until it breaks. You are complaining that it is breaking.
Whats breaking exactly?
Its just chromium, google could decide to keep it Win7 compatible but they won't cause google doesn't care about maintaining that kind of legacy compatibility
>What is breaking?
>Apart from this thing
You can use it until it breaks just like you want to.
Its breaking the same way Flash broke
So use it until it breaks. Or don't.
Nta but you are clearly moronic
Not the guy that you're responding to but the person you're defending is moronic and so are you
A company isn’t going to sink a frick ton of money in keeping a dead OS for the sake of a few broke morons too stupid and or stubborn to keep up. And if you think it’s cheap or “free” to maintain an OS, you’re even dumber than your post suggests.
It's not Valve as much as it is google, if Valve didn't use Chromium for their entire Steam program then I could keep playing fine for another 3 years I bet until too many games w/o Win7 support come out
So far all these new games come out and even without saying they support Windows 7 in Minimum requirements I can still play them no problem because its an OS that just fricking works to this day.
Because windows 7 is very close to 10
>you know its because of google and we all know how eager google is to keep any legacy support or even apps around
no it's not. microsoft dropped support for win7 3 AND A HALF YEARS AGO. valve does not want to maintain steam to run on an OS that doesn't even get security updates anymore. you've had plenty of time to move on.
So? The OS is so soo good and stable that it just still fricking works to this day no Microsoft support needed, no needing daily forced updates I'm good man just need Steam to keep working I can keep going I already skipped 99% of all the bullshit problems/issues/bugs all those poor bastards who downloaded the Windows 10 beta did so theres was no reason for Steam to pull this bullshit
Look at how many people this is inconveniencing - loyal Steam customers who basically have over half their entire games on Steam are just going to be fricked over for no good reason because Win7 can still run without issues
1.17% of ~28 million is around ~327,600 people, far more remain on Win7 SP1 right now than were on WinXP when Steam did the EOL thing for them
Lel ur more irrelevant than Linux.
Not that much more
Not helping your argument.
>entirety of Linux slightly higher than one Windows OS version
Yes.
That's how irrelevant you are.
>a paying customer is irrelevant because daddy Valve says so
Do you even grasp what you're saying?
You're so desperate for le upvote (You)s you're willing to be made airtight by corporate dicks rather than admit that it's an awful way to treat people who have spent money.
>that system you use that works just fine and runs anything you want it to run? Yeah NOT GOOD ENOUGH
Frick you, man. You get the industry you deserve.
You're saying a lot of shit you made up.
Get with the time gramps.
look i agree with much of what you're saying. i only moved to win10 because of elden ring otherwise i'd still be on it. but it's a poor allocation of resources for a company to continue supporting what is essentially a dead OS. plus the numbers are clear indicators that supporting 1.3% of their users is not worth it
>supporting 1.3% of their users is not worth it
They should be supporting ALL their users, you low-expectation-having fricking bootlicker.
How the frick do you silly c**ts STILL not understand this?
They're a multi-billion dollar company, and poor old Dave is going to be cucked out of his purchases because what worked just fine on New Years Eve somehow, mystically, no longer works on January 1st.
Why?
Maybe you should support a relevant OS linuxtroony.
Too bad. Update it's free.
You colossal moron.
What do you want them to do? Leave an old version of Chromium in which is vulnerable to attack and leaves them liable in their op sec obligations as a company which handles customer's data just because you are too stubborn to push the free update button?
There's no need for Steam to use Chromium in the first place.
>HURR DURR JUST DEVELOP YOUR OWN BROWSER
You have been told time and time again why this isn't feasible.
And why couldn't they do that?
They have more wealth than actual countries. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that maybe, just maybe, they'd be competent.
Why would a company spend money and resources on something like that when something else is already available for use just to appease 1% of their userbase?
damn dude you really need to stop crying
>damn dude you really need to stop crying
Stop having the most basic of standards?
>throwing a tantrum because the corporation wont use another corporations obsolete software
I miss when being punk was a serious thing. Like you didnt buy corporate products and really wanted to frick the man over.
Now if your latte is a double grande instead of the triple grande the barista is a "FRICKING BOOT LICKER NAZI!!!!"
the internet has warped these people.
If you can't see how people are being needlessly fricked over by all of this, I don't know what to tell you.
You're the reason we have stupid Steam in the first place, instead of decent and simple practices like "pay money to receive thing."
It's not "throwing a tantrum" when it's objectively wrong.
People are being forced away from their purchases, and because you don't see it from the end-user perspective (given you're a fricking bootlicker) you blah-blah-blah because it doesn't affect you right now.
Sickens me, how hard we done fell.
homosexuals on Ganker would sooner take the side of Valve than people who simply want to play their games.
>steam should have to cater to windows 3.1 users because 20 people might get fricked over and thats not very nice, is it?
consumer life isnt all that its cracked up to be, huh? You got comfortable with the boots to lick and now your mad its stepping on you??
Really??? Reject the boot entirely. Stop using corporate products. sir.
>immediately conjures some extreme-end and histrionic reply because he has nothing to say
Address directly what has been said, and maybe we can talk
Take your extremity mentality somewhere else. Not every topic is a dumb US election.
>im laying at the feet of these corporations and they just keep kicking me around?!?!
>What gives???
>I hate bootlickers!
Youre like a confused cow not sure what the pneumatic gun pointed at your head is, desperate to just return to your pasture.
Im explaing to cattle why they should oppose the slaughter house right now. And the cow is saying "youre mental"
Its sad stuff.
>people are being needlessly fricked over
you're not being needlessly fricked over by this, you're literally a security risk and no one wants to support software that old, full stop.
You say "needlessly" but the "need" is to ensure security across all platforms, eliminate vectors for viruses and software bugs.
It does not, and never will, make sense to continue to develop security updates for 1.5% of the userbase that refuse to upgrade from a 14 year old operating system.
maintaning. old. stuff. costs. money.
you would probably know that if you had a fricking job and a shred of critical thinking or at the very least weren't intellectually lazy and thought for a second to actually research the topic you b***h about. but you're just an entitled video game addicted contrarian manchild throwing a temper tantrum and trying to spin it like it's an assault on your basic right, frick off lmao
Valve literally stopped making an effort to accommodate windows 7 years ago (they announced that shit & everything), and told people they were on their own if they couldn't get it to work.
And the client just kept working. It didn't cost them a fricking dime, so stop being moronic on purpose.
That doesnt quit the thing that they should at keast let residual avalaible compatibility with 7 cuz of simple himan respect.
My mom still has one 7 rig and plays stardew valley with it.
old, unsupported clients will eventually end up with security exploits be it their own or the libraries they use. these are vectors of attack. they probably wouldnt carfe as much if the clients didn't require connectivity to their servers, but even if that wasn't the case, you don't want the headache of some moron like you that gets his shit hacked and then blames valve. so if you can't update these clients, you cut support for that shit as soon as you can, that's how EOL works you fricking mong.
>Still playing the "muh security" angle
You disingenuous frick. You insufferable baboon. Nothing that comes out of your mouth means anything. Literal vomit would hold more value.
>bro like why do like businesses care about like what? security? broooooooooooooooo bruh fr rn?
heh i love when zoomers encounter the real world.
i'm a software engineer you fricking idiot, i literally build cloud services and have to deal with what i'm talking about constantly. have a nice day you dunning-kruger ridden clown, you're irreperably stupid.
>he builds cloud services
Point at him. Point at him and laugh.
>building clouds
imagine going to college just so you can be a professional vaper at a company jesus fricking christ.
you're literally on Ganker you absolute fricking baboon, where you think Ganker lives, on a server in some gay's basement? It, like every other website, is on the cloud somewhere, so you're actively laughing at shit you use daily
can you do the cloud tornado thing and push the rings around?
>cloud services
you're an IT worker/sysadmin. also, an indian tier midwit. not a software engineer.
cope homosexual
I see you ran out of "I am totally smart and you are wrong" bullshit. Maybe you should call up your girlfriend who lives in Canada for help.
I understand your position, and why it would be annoying for your OS to no longer be supported.
But I also understand Steam's position that you are a security risk, and not worth the money it takes to keep supporting your OS.
good to be 8.1 CHAD
You absolute tard. No one supports anything as long as MS and Valve supports their software. Windows 7 is from 2009. IT HAD TEN+ YEARS OF SUPPORT.
And there are still games released on Steam this year that support it, run it perfectly with no issue
Windows 7 is too stable and functional to have Steam arbitrarily drop support like this for it, just let me access my game library with my depreciated, unsupported OS they could at least do that, and I can browse the rest of Steam from my browser, that would be a fine compromise instead of bricking my entire Steam install
You're a moron who's never done anything actually important. Either switch to Linux or upgrade to a higher version of windows. You are not entitled to support forever.
>support
kys homosexual. this has nothing to do with "support"
So is Windows XP and 98. Why aren't you using them?
>32 bit and FAT32 filesystem.
But they are working fine, why aren't you using them, anon?
No, they aren't working fine, as I previously stated, your fortnite install couldn't even be held on a FAT32 file system.
Its 640k, newbies these days.
Windows XP supports NTFS and has 64 bit version, so why aren't you using it?
too unreliable, you should go bugtest it for us all.
Why would I, I moved on from both XP and 7 a long time ago and not the one b***hing about leaving 14 year old system in the past.
Why would I? I have a completely working feature complete operating system. Windows 11 isn't going to move to 128 bit or > 1 billion terrabyte filesystems any time soon.
XP is also feature complete and doesn't have any bugs, at least it didn't last time I used it 15 years ago. So why aren't you using it, anon?
See
Go debug it, I've stated my objection.
my computer that still has xp installed on it won't power on anymore. I think I need to replace some battery on the motherboard.
It's a button battery, but generally it should power on and not keep the clock on power off. You might have to recap it.
Not everyone needs 64-bit, consoomer. If you have over 32mb of RAM, you're sucking corporate wiener, paypig.
>there are still games released on Steam this year that support it, run it perfectly with no issue
I mean ones that say Minimum OS Windows 10, can't say the same for WinXP/98
There are endless amounts of DOS compatible games. Your argument is bad.
If you feel strongly about it, pirate them. Morals are decided by the majority. The majority has decided they don't agree with you. You might as well break one moral if the majority decides you've broken another, anyway. Just in case you had a morality argument against piracy.
>for them to just cut off access
That’s not what’s happening. Google is stopping the support, steam is just dependent on chromium.
Valve should just make a shitty web browser that can only access the steam store as a solution though.
They could just let it keep running and if it breaks one day it breaks
That is the day it breaks. They're rolling update out that Windows 7 can't support.
Prove its that and not just a update that checks your OS and if its 7 bricks your Steam
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A
>This change is required as core features in Steam rely on an embedded version of Google Chrome, which no longer functions on older versions of Windows. In addition, future versions of Steam will require Windows feature and security updates only present in Windows 10 and above.
Steam's in-client browser was Gecko for the longest time, they're just updating it to Chromium. A lot of clients are doing this.
Them put an outdated service line.
Fricking sons of b***hes!
Just use older versions of Steam and don't update them, this can be entirely done if you're not a techlet lmao.
>Do you expect Valve to indefinitely support all fricking Windows versions until the heat death of the universe?
Yes
>NOOOOO NOT LE HECKING SECURITY VULNURABILITIES
>WHAT ABOUT MY UPDOOOTS???
literally not an issue. or are you telling me you also use anti virus software?
>LE SECURITY UPDATES ARE FAKE NEWS!!!
>W-WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH MY C-COMPUTER!?!?
>AAHHH!!! A VIRUS!!! OH NO MY PANTS FELL DOWN!!!
you cant get a virus if you arent a moron. especially BECAUSE you are using an OS no one is using no one will bother targeting you. they throw out the largest net they can to get the highest yield. they are not going to bother looking for some lone windows 7 user to stumble into their trap. thats not worth their time.
and even then, no one is using viruses or malware on dinky personal computers that some nobody like you or me is using. they are targeting workplace PCs. they want to get into corporate networks to encrypt their data and delete their backups, then demand a ransom. if a hacker were to target some nobody average user they would most likely not get anything as the victim says the data isnt worth the ransom, just delete it and start from scratch. and what amount of money could they possibly demand? 10k? oohh wow, that sure is worth their time.
its the same with bikes, the best security you can have, one that beats even the best lock, is simply not being an interesting target.
T. Virus
yes?
>it won't happen to me
Until it does. Wide net+easy exploit = you're on some list and eventually they'll get to you
there is literally no point in targeting legacy OSes because no one of import is using that. the only attacks those targets would ever receive would be of the social engineering type and not actual sophisticated hacking attacks. you entering your credit card info on a porn site has nothing to do with vulnerabilities in your OS or anything. you have no idea about data security. the people that know how to make use of those exploits will not bother with small fry like you.
the most likely way for someone like you to be the victim of a hacker is by companies, that you share your data with, getting attacked.
deprecated OS with security vulnerabilities and no updates
what does any of this have to do with steam revoking access to your purchases?
It doesn't revoke access to your purchases, though?
It effectively makes the products unusable. It's like giving you a house or car without the keys.
But your PC is the house or car and Valve doesn't provide the house or car. It's more like the road to your house is no longer maintained, so Valve is no longer going to make deliveries to your house.
its my analogy and you dont get to interpret
i think i need a food analogy to really understand
You're the one preventing Steam from giving you the keys to your house by booby-trapping your yard.
i didnt booby trap shit, that's a shit analogy, win7 users arent doing anything and VALVE is the one booby trapping their homes
I wish Vista wasn't abandoned so early, that OS was genuinely good at SP3 just too ahead of its time.
>with security vulnerabilities and no updates
Good morning, sir.
Oh yeah, I'm sure this has everything to do with security.
Windows 7 users are getting haxxored left & right, and Valve simply said enough was enough.
The truly worst part about it is the lack of cool alternatives. Windows 8 onwards is a total mess and Linux is less convenient than Windows. Valve not even bothering with a lite version that doesn't make use of Chromium features only shows off how either Gabe wants everyone to jump ship to Linux ASAP or the majority of employees that could work on such a feature are nu-programmers who want to "modernize" everything
why in the frick would someone waste that much dev time to maintain a branch that doesn't use chromium that literally less than 2% of users would ever consider using
because these morons here think it's a conspiracy made by ebil corporations aimed at true gaymers of Ganker
Yeah it's actually completely coincidental that you need to be hooked into the entire steam ecosystem just to play games you bought even though the functionality of the games is entirely unrelated and nothing about steam's usage as a launcher for those games relies on any updated features
Why would the developers work on something for no monetary compensation? Because it would be cool! The only reason it's used by less than 2% of users in the first place is because Windows shifted everyone as hard as possible to 10 and the vast majority of computers in the last decade came pre-installed with Windows 10. Steam has multiplied its userbase by several times in the last decade, and the userbase that would install Steam was largely teenagers getting into gaming, doing so on Win10 machines. Win7's phase-out isn't natural, it's largely manually enforced by Microsoft and indirectly enforced by all the developers making their foundational software using Win10 features.
There's more Linux users than windows 7 users. You trannies are that irrelevant.
>calls win7 users the trannies
kek
They are yes.
just stop being a b***h and use another os
No, frick you and your alternative operating systems
Just upgrade to Windows 8 or above then. If you refuse to, then that's your loss.
>Windows 8
they are less supported than 7 by now
I mean if you're going to get a new Windows 10 computer you might as well just go to Windows 11 right now. It's as bloated and annoying as 10 but at least it won't be dropped in 2 years.
11 is a nightmare. Stick to 7 with hacks, switch to 10 and debloat or move on to a good Linux distro.
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A
just fricking apply the 'fix' you dumbshit
what fix?
Google it you fricking moronic ADHD riddled zoomer homosexual. Or better yet, fricking have a nice day for being so fricking stupid.
>4 hours ago
I already got the fix but thanks for the bump lmao
>every post telling OP to change OSs insults him
>every thread
yuck
Good. morons should be insulted.
You deserved to be mailed presents.
It's MS shills.
>everything not echoing my statement is a shill post
It's clearly a pattern. I wish India and Microsoft is nuked to death.
Have you tried linux? Steam literally has an OS for frick's sake.
just don't update steam anymore after that date?
I don't know if it isn't already "locked in" with the most recent update
I'm in this position but I'm honestly just going to let it run out. At this point I don't really care much about vidya anymore and most of the stuff I play is emulated anyway.
>187
Is this worth playing?
I remember enjoying it.
>corpo bootlickers infesting every one of these threads
>legit complaint, addressed with WHAT R U POOR OR SOMETHING LMAO GLARK GLARK GLARK SEE DADDY GABEN I AM A GOOD BOI
Makes me sick. It's blatantly anti-customer and you're just taking it.
>AY YO Y DA FUK DEEZ PEOPLE STOP SELLING LEADED PETROL SO ANTI-CONSUMER
Suck harder, I'm sure you'll get a reward
My reward is watching luddite autists lose their fricking minds.
Stop using windows troony.
Update to windows 10
Only when enough games are on it that it make sense to, that time is not now
Cities Skylines II is coming out soon, looking forward to buying it on Steam, playing it on my Windows 7 PC without any issues until suddenly Steam stops working due to no fault of my own on January 1st.
Real fricking smart Valve.
>until suddenly Steam stops working
too bad they're not giving extremely advance notice of when it will happen. it's going to be "sudden." in fact i'm not even sure how anyone knows about this
Or they could just not force the update that bricks steam on my machine just because its Windows 7?
>looking forward to buying Cities Skylines II
>system requirements list Windows 10 as a minimum
>might work on windows 7 until suddenly steam stops working
>due to no fault of your own
>except the fact that the game lists windows 10 in its requirements
>so by running it on unsupported hardware you are actively causing a fault that you cannot blame steam for
>also running an operating system that has had zero security updates for nearly four years
>all over a stubbornness to use an operating system that's older than the average poster on Ganker
Someone's actually moronic here and it's not Valve
see
Nah, objectively by being obstinate you're opening yourself up to security risks keeping a system like that online in the first place. Windows 10 is a fricking free upgrade, it's not like they're asking you to pay $100 to keep your shit, they're just saying update your literally ancient software to more modern shit
Running windows 7 now is the equivalent to someone running Windows 95 when Windows 7 came out. I don't mean in terms of deprecated features etc; i mean literally in terms of age. You keep saying Windows 7 is stable so let you run it, but you're *literally* seeing the fact that the system is no longer stable and is losing compatibility because it's fricking pants-on-head moronic to keep supporting a FOURTEEN YEAR OLD OPERATING SYSTEM.
Call me a bootlicker if you want, I hate microsoft as much as anyone else does, but the fact that you're using Windows as it is means that you're a person that requires Windows to do the things you want to do, and the things you want to do are asking you to update your shit. So you're getting what you deserve if you don't upgrade.
stop making sense
these threads are always insufferable but i'm replying to this post because i FRICKING HATE this nonsensical "windows 7 is as old as [insert operating system] here was when it came out, so it's bad!" argument. you're basically saying "old bad, new good" and ignoring the actual software itself, win95 was a kludgy dos-based mess with tons of hardware limitations that stopped being usable for vidya and mainstream computing after the early 2000s, win7 is nt-based, 64-bit, and far more robust and can still do pretty much everything 10 and 11 can, and the things it can't do aren't possible because microsoft sucks and wants you to use their newer, jankier, uglier, more anticonsumer and objectively worse vista reskins instead. from a historical standpoint, there were tons of genuinely valid reasons to move away from win95 to a newer os, hell you could even make the case for moving from xp to 7 (proper 64-bit support, desktop compositing, etc.) , but the few benefits you get from "upgrading" 7 to 10/11 are offset by a million other regressions. this wouldn't be an issue if microsoft didn't have a financial interest in locking down windows, making it worse, and generally being the corporate equivalent of the antichrist, but still, everyone who makes this argument needs to be euthanized
if you hate microsoft so much stop using windows
i'm running linux RIGHT NOW you fricking mongoloid because neither switch emulator supports 7 anymore, it's pleasantly surprised me in some ways but there are still tons of weird quirks and compatibility issues so i feel comfortable saying that both modern windows and desktop linux fricking suck. for example, my controller inputs aren't recognized by xorg so dpms keeps automatically turning off my monitor while i'm in the middle of playing a game, it's excruciating. why is this a problem??
total rewrite? bullshit lmao, 10 and 11 are STILL based off the vista kernel (nt 6.0) 15 years later and they haven't significantly overhauled the underlying os since then, if you actually used vista for any amount of time you'd realize that. i think wsl1 was the most work they've done on the kernel in years but they completely invalidated that with wsl2 so whatever. microshit's "security patches" break more things than they fix and sometimes they literally sign malware (https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/12/microsoft-digital-certificates-have-once-again-been-abused-to-sign-malware/), and even then 7 is still technically getting security updates until late 2024 if you really care that much about them. also they ARE maintaining an old codebase, windows nt is turning 3 decades old this year. god i'm getting a headache again
>10 and 11 are STILL based off the vista kernel (nt 6.0) 15 years later
wtf why wouldn't they base it off Windows 7? I had Vista it sucked massive dick, part of why I'm wary of "upgrading" to Win 10/11
You understand that windows 10 is a total rewrite of an operating system compared to windows 7, right? You also understand that just because your shit "works" on windows 7, that it also has not had any meaningful updates or security patches since before the Covid lockdown?
Yeah, the bare-metal differences compared to windows 95 aren't as drastic with the move from 7 to 10 but it absolutely does not make sense to maintain a codebase that old.
Not my problem
If you're still using windows 7 it is objectively your problem, because you are being told in no uncertain terms that you need to upgrade your operating system to something more current so that it can continue to be supported. If you don't like it, either keep using your unsecure operating system or move to Linux. That's your choices. Complain about it all you want but it's literally all you have. Steam isn't going to roll back a change that's been announced for over a year just to appease less than 2% of their userbase.
>Steam isn't going to roll back a change that's been announced for over a year just to appease less than 2% of their userbase.
Not muh problemo
If they are gonna deny me service.. i will sue them if they don give me my money back. Cuz i cannot access they renting gaming services i signed with them.
Also it is a thing of basic human respect ... steam are proving to be a bunch of Black folk.
They've given you more than enough notice to be within their legal rights. If you refuse to upgrade your operating system, you're agreeing that your choice of operating system is more important than your ability to access your steam library. good luck with your dumb as shit lawsuit.
I will upgrade if steam pays for a new rig and a win10 key.
Money doesnt grow on trees you know.
They signed a contract with me and my money... so they are the part who has to comply.
>paying for windows
windows 10 upgrade is free you simple fricking ape. It will also run on your current PC just fine.
yes idiot, almost everywhere in software, especially in an OS "old bad new good". software needs to be patched on the regular for security purposes alone. you need to be euthanized for how stupid you are along with every other moron here who thinks he has a clue about software engineering by the virtue of being a kissless virgin loser playing video games.
(you) need to be euthanized for falling hook line and sinker for the "I GOTTA HECKIN' UPDOOT MY SOFTWARE OR ELSE EVIL HACKERS WILL BREAK INTO MY BANK ACCOUNT MEME!!11!" when a. this is more relevant for enterprises and organizations that actually need that level of security, b. there are other ways of remaining secure that don't involve installing constant updates, like using common fricking sense and c. windows 10/11 and almost all proprietary big tech shovelware these days uses "MUH SAFETY AND SECURITY" as an excuse to mine your data, take features away from you and generally buttfrick you 24/7. actually frick it, euthanize everyone in this thread
it usually doesn't but in this case it actually does since the last version of the steam client that runs 7 will inevitably stop connecting to valve's servers at some point. steam didn't immediately stop running on xp either but the same thing happened there after a few years
7 was based off vista too you dummy, in non-/g/tard terms, vista was the last time microsoft actually changed pretty much every core component of windows in one release (compare vista's install screen with windows 11, it's the same fricking thing, just uglier) and they've been building on top of vista ever since. most normies hate vista because they were told to, but in a way they're still using it lol
>steam didn't immediately stop running on xp either but the same thing happened there after a few years
Are you saying it wont be an instant stop? I actually didn't remember the same happened to XP too, so I'll still technically be able to use Steam and my games like normal for a couple years after you think?
That would at least be enough time for me to eventually buy new PC and shit
The way Valve words it is like immediately on Jan 1. 2024 I won't even be able to open Steam and play my games but if that didn't happen to XP users then it won't here either?
Can someone confirm what happened when XP users got the same red banner warning, did they instantly lose access or not?
Yes. Hard cut. New version of the software did not work. Installing older, modified versions of the program still worked to access your library. It is unlikely that this will happen with the windows 7 update. Once again, you were given ample warning and at this point not upgrading is your choice and is out of their hands.
good luck using "common sense" to stay secure with multiple 0 day exploits that will never get patched (go ahead and google the term, i can't wait for your brilliant common sense solution). you common sense conspiracy morons are my favorite - experts in every field. you won't even fathom that maybe, just maybe, you know less than people who actually do this shit for a living lol.
can't, every time i try to install it, it fails around the 70% mark with no error given or reason as to why despite trying 5 times
Now that's gay.
You are a shitter but there are even bigger shitters. The amount of corpos sitting on Server 2008 R2 is fricking shocking. Just in-place upgrade you stupid fricking bastards.
just get the current version of windows, Gankerfwt/
>b-b-but muh win11 bad!
i don't care
Just upgrade your fricking RAM you poorgay c**t.
Kek. This is like the PC equivalent of old console servers being shut down.
WINDOWS 10 IS FREE Black person
>b-b-but I dont want it
Fricking fine, but you dont get to b***h when you can play steam games homosexual.
>WAHHHH my cassette tapes dont work on Spotify!
Fricking useless brazilian monkey ass
>WINDOWS 10 IS FREE Black person
Not since 2016
>Even if you don’t provide a key during the installation process, you can head to Settings > Update & Security > Activation and enter a Windows 7 or 8.1 key here instead of a Windows 10 key. Your PC will receive a digital entitlement.
>install fresh official ISO on a brand new computer
>do none of that bullshit
>never enter a key or anything
>it's already fully activated and working
its still free if you can deal with a watermark and no custom background/other superficial personalisations that you could probably get anyways through third party software.
and even then, KMS are easy to find
>free
you are the product Black person
We've already suggested Linux and OP is too much of a homosexual for that.
>Fricking fine, but you dont get to b***h when you can't* play steam games homosexual.
But I paid for them so I do get to b***h. To be honest I should be suing them.
Then do it you fricking cuck.
I'm not asking Steam to develop their own browser but holy frick at least give me a way to access my GAME LIBRARY after this arbitrary fricking cut off date
I can browse Steam online (on Firefox cause frick Chrome) and at least buy games and shit that way, just let me use my basic fricking game library to play the games I paid for like holy frick they won't even grant us this courtesy just immediately lock you out on Jan 1. 2024 of your own fricking games its so unfair and infuriating why does the game library use Chromium too, why is there no proprietary Steam library backup in case Chromium ever breaks or whatever
Look homosexual, everyone here has provided you multiple alternative solutions to your problem but you don't want them, you want to stay on Windows fricking 7 for the rest of your life and that's your problem, not Valve's or Microsoft's.
Not rest of my life see
take the linux pill
just update homie
aint no cia interested on your chinese cartoons
just use linux (MacOS)
Create a text file
put these 2 lines in there
BootStrapperInhibitAll=enable
BootStrapperForceSelfUpdate=disable
Save and rename file as Steam.cfg
Place in Steam root
Make read only
You can keep playing your old games past 2024 and Win10 israelites keep kvetching
BASED
Thanks anon hope this shit works and stays working for a while at least, I'm gonna switch to Win 10/11 eventually but I'm gonna do so on my own fricking terms and when I choose to
>windows users: seethe about Linux being too complex
>also wincels: will do shit like like this to do basic functions
yeah i suppose creating a text file and putting it in some directory is beyond majority of zoomers as general research shows
editing a .cfg and moving it to a directory is complex?
((smart)) generation don't know what directory is. I'm convinced the term "smartphone" was coined with ironical glee, because ultimate goal is to create mass of morons
Smart means it has computational capabilities you fricking moron. Bet you were slurping your own cum over how smart you are typing your fricking moronic post. have a nice day.
see, it's already working
Calling you moronic is working yes. Did notice you're still alive however.
What kind of logical leap is this? A Windows user has to do stuff like that once in a blue moon, while fricking around with heaps of text files is bread and butter for troonix users.
Wanna know how I know you're a troony who has never used GNU/Linux wintroonycel?
Sorry, I can't hear you over the frantic clicking of your mechanical keyboard.
Ah so she's taken the deflection route.
Seethe more.
To a majority of windows users, yes.
You may think it's not that difficult, and it really isn't, but to the average user that sort of thing is akin to compiling your own kernel.
The average user is fricking moronic and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near computers.
Just so we are clear this is in C:Program files(x86)Steam?
I didnt see a steam.cfg to replace already there so im not sure if its the right location
Yeah thats the correct location
god thats hot
sauce
queens blade, some rare episode you might never see it. Those OVA episodes are not findable online
Well thanks for title at least
>slurp slurp
>slurp slurp
not sure where the japanese word orginates, but she is saying "Chupa Chupa" which is mexican for suck as well
you create it, steam will still read it
forgot to type thanks
See you on January 1st 2024 OP. Not replying to any of your shit threads any more as it's obvious you don't actually want help.
WIN10 LTSC is your best bet if you absolutely have to "upgrade".
Otherwise just learn Linux.
>WIN10 LTSC
Better than Win 11?
Will have to switch eventually so I need to know which version, I just want one with the least amount of bullshit and bloat, the OS should get out of the way and just exist in the background supporting the work you do not hindering it.
Will LTSC still have forced updates you can't turn off?
destroy windows update through the scheduler, also make sure to turn off telemetry and remove bloat through registry https://www.wintips.org/how-to-turn-off-windows-10-updates-permanently/ https://www.easeus.com/backup-recovery/how-to-stop-windows-10-from-automatically-update https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
get open shell for the windows 7 look (mostly) retained as well
Good tips thanks anon so you recommend LTSC Win 10 over Win 11 overall?
i would never recommend windows 11 ever
and yes if you have to go for win10 make sure its LTSC as it allows you to access group editor which make debloating 10x easier
Gotcha, I just hope it can run a lot of the random eroge and nukige I have that Win 7 can without issue
if you encounter any issues just try running through compatibility mode, ive never had issues with any older eroge although i mainly just played the viper series
Sounds good then, thanks
you're welcome anon
is there a >free ltsc download anywhere because i don't trust the plethora of indian links floating around
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Thanks for the dolphin porn
it's what im running now
meant for
as well
alright cool
legit?
https://mega.nz/folder/ChNTDaiL#nNqH2PTfIzTLAEs8nc-U0w
>sketchy mega iso
>when Windows is available from Microsoft at https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/download-windows-10-enterprise
Do morons really?
>Enterprise
are you moronic? it's literally designed as an 'enterprise solution' to not have to deal with fricking constant shitty user updates.
just install microsoft store separately if you really need the adware that bad.
>Better than Win 11?
I think so, having used both. You will hate the UI in Windows 11 (I certainly do; it's comically bloated), but you can at least make Windows 10's desktop look more or less like Windows 7 with a few minutes of tweaking.
Windows 10 is already guilty of just adding extra hoops to jump through onto Windows 7, and Windows 11 heaps even more shit on top of Windows 10. It is awful.
Install windows 10
>BRO WTF THEY DONT SUPPORT WINDOWS 98 NO MORE AHHHHHHH
OP either DL linux or shut the frick up you fricking homosexual jesus christ
No one gives a damn about FAT32 support, and since you have no idea what that is, imagine a file system that couldn't even contain the files for your fortnite install.
Windows 10 is literally free. I do not get the idea of keep using a dead OS.
Is a man not entitled to run the same OS install in perpetuity?
"No" says the man at microsoft, "pay for it again and stay up to date 'for your own good'"
"No" says the man at apple, "we know what's best for you, and breaking your applications regularly is a good thing moron"
"No" says the man building the console, "you have no rights, shut up and buy the new system, no you can't play your old games on it"
I rejected those answers...
I chose something different...
Underrated post
>"No" says the man building the console, "you have no rights, shut up and buy the new system, no you can't play your old games on it"
I still have my GameCube.
>needlessly complicated
>telling the computer explicitly what to do
>vs
>navigating through 40 GUI panels to maybe find what you want
I never got this meme, it's weird for the first few days, but once you understand the CLI, you more or less stop using GUIs for most things.
I've seen you post this dozens of times in the last couple days. Please seek help.
*spends hours debloating and removing telemetry*
>install windows
>run massgravel activation script
>install geforce experience
>install steam
>play games
That's pretty much my process.
Windows typically has more steps to do things than Linux.
>Want to install something?
Linux:
1. Type what you want in your package or flatpak manager
2. Hit install
Windows:
1. Search Google
2. Look though multiple results for hopefully the correct link
3. Download the correct one and not a virus
4. Install
>Want to move your taskbar to the side?
Linux:
1. Click and drag
Windows:
1. Download a complete desktop replacement from a sketchy website
2. Install it
3. Click and drag
4. Repeat every time Windows updates
So linux users ARE too stupid to use Windows. Amazing.
Linux is user-unfriendly, modern Windows is user-hostile.
I hate that every since Windows 8, the system settings are split between 3 different sections. And now with 11 they've removed a lot of the old settings without adding replacements in the new one. They're actively removing functionality from their OS.
>the system settings are split between 3 different sections
>They're actively removing functionality from their OS
Lmao, how does MS frick up such basic shit
the folder directory is such a confusing mess it's not funny
game settings and saved files are all over the place and none of them make logical consistent sense
random shit in documents random shit in saved games and steam folders
the frick are you on about, control panel is still basically unchanged
Did you just compare Linux with Rapture from Bioshock? The shit's busted.
>I chose something different...
O RRY
>Apple used to be the goto system for people that hated microsoft
>It made it's image back in the day on the idea of non-conformity
>It's now the single biggest 'I bought this to fit in' brand out there
It's almost sad to see.
Apple's always been for morons
nothing changed
imagine if you owned a car from 1968 and even though it still works fine all the gas stations decided to change the gas pumps so the nozzle wouldn't fit anymore. why? because frick you buy the newest thing or suffer.
>digital goods=physical goods
No.
>can't play video games
>can't view twitter posts without an account
Today is an anti-technology day. Think I'll go fishing.
Windows 7 is as old now as Windows 95 was when 7 came out. I never saw people complain that Steam wouldn't run on 95.
that was back in the day when windows releases were actually upgrades.
>Windows 7 is as old now as Windows 95 was when 7 came out. I never saw people complain that Steam wouldn't run on 95.
Because between the era of 95 W7 Microsoft released two bad operating systems: ME and Vista. In both cases the follow-on OS was a massive improvement in stability and performance. Windows 8 releases and not only doesn't add any worthwhile features, it actually removes them and then starts the Klausing by forcing updates that needed workarounds to make the system do what you told it to. THEN they release Windows 10, which removed even more features, added a ton of privacy-raping telemetry baked into the operating system that you can't remove without breaking shit, and you have NO choice in what updates or features you want to install. THEN Windows 11 comes out, it's even more broken and buggy than W10 at launch, has even more telemetry and mandatory "features", breaks every other update, and removes more user choice.
The problem is that Windows is getting shittier and shittier and nobody with a scrap of know-how wants to "upgrade" to these obtuse privacy-raping pajeetware operating systems. Microsoft ONLY releases shitty products nowadays.
>scrap of know-how wants to "upgrade" to these obtuse privacy-raping
windows "know-how" lmao
>THEN they release Windows 10, which removed even more features
Don't forget tried to stealth install it over your OS unless you went through a bit of effort to find that 6GB update and remove it and prevent Windows 10 from forcibly overriding Windows 7
MS tried like hell to inconvenience people to get them to give up and just roll over and bug test their shitty, buggy, broken OS
what removed features? the start menu that was only used by tech illiterate people?
>windows is trash because they're throwing out backwards compatibility
>same with google chrome
>no I won't learn an alternate OS like ubuntu or arch or linux because.... ????
tick tock
suck wiener
I tried to update my win 7 computer the other day after a factory reset the other day but my computer refused to update to windows 10. Couldn't figure out what to do even after doing every microsoft update.
>all the donres ITT defending this obvious israelitery
I'm curious. Do you guys lube up for when daddy Micro$oft fricks your asses? You seem like the types to want it dry.
If OP isn't going to switch to Linux he deserves it.
>the poors ITT that clearly don't have 4090s since the drivers are 10+
How does Valve or Microsoft profit from this?
>still uses their product
>people have had to upgrade to newer operating systems since the dawn of computing
>THIS time is le israelites because uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
You're drooling all over the floor.
tick tock
>tick tock
tick tock
>tick tock
tick tock
>tick tock
>bawww support my 16 year old operating system forever
No.
Steam is 20 years old and isn't supported by new games, have you migrated yet?
None of those are new, chang.
way newer than steam. why didn't you migrate?
I have Epic for KH1-3, SoP (bought it before it hit Steam), and Fortnite. There's literally nothing else.
none of these shit games are worth playing.
>https://overclock3d.net/news/software/valorant_is_ending_support_for_older_versions_of_windows_citing_security_concerns/1
>https://www.ign.com/articles/fortnite-drops-support-for-windows-7-and-8-computers
At least you've still got Genshin.
I hope a new Windows 7 issue pops up before the end date that spooks Valve into pulling the plug early. h man the salt would be amazing, even more so almost every Win 7 lifer is some anime posting troony that clearly is lost in mental illness.
>Ganker supports denuvo to "spite pirates and poorgays"
>suddenly realizes the implication of hardware being able to take away your purchases
You brought this on yourselves.
Doesn't bother me. I'm not poor and I keep up to date.
>Ganker is one person
>Ganker supports denuvo
You need to stop falling for obvious bait posters Anon.
Windows 10 is free, Wintoddler. Upgrade to the latest version of your SpywareOS, or install Linux. But whatever you do, ensure you SHUT THE FRICK UP both before and afterwards. Thanks!
Never buy 1s and 0s.
I hope Europe will rape that subhuman landwhale lardshit and Steam to death for anti-consumer homosexualry.
I genuinely hope and wish Gabe Newell dies the most painful death possible.
Frick this lardtastic pigshit israeli swine for all eternity by a billion devils in hell.
despicable subhuman fatass swine.
>Europe "rapes" Steam
>Valve pulls out of Europe
>Europoors complain that the PS5's 3 games are all they have now
>Americans laugh while enjoying brisk 55F homes in the summer
just disconnect your Windows 7 machine from the internet and you'll be able to play your steam games forever
if you want to be serious enough about playing old games on an old OS and old hardware you should at least make the effort to do so on a dedicated machine
>i'm poor so i cant upgrade
you can literally get $500 prebuilts that'll run modern games on windows 10/11. $500 is a typical week's savings at a minimum wage job.
inb4 angry neets give me 30 replies
>play on a PS3 for 15 years
>PS5 comes out
>hey, we have to announce that we will have to terminate services for PS3
>btw you can buy a PS5 for 10-20$ if you'd like
>NO I DEMAND TO KEEP PLAYING ON MY PS5
Why are autists like this?
>invent a strawman
>get mad aftewards
jej
>console does one thing
>OS does many things
>reliant on OS rn for many things not related to vidya and can't just switch because Valve demands it
Of course a consolegay can't comprehend this
Then why aren't you gays pissing your pants with rage adobe no longer supports windows 7?
>I accepted the EULA that stated very clearly that changes in software and hardware requirements in the future might make steam incompatible with my current system
>somehow this is moronic
>move to Linux
>problem gone
>reaction image is female
>linux user
Sounds about right.
If you don't know this character you just outed yourself as an election tourist.
I'm 42. I'm too old to be a troony.
You've also never used Ganker. Frick off we're full.
Sorry, I don't keep up with children. Go talk about your Lady Google or whatever somewhere else.
Go back to facebook, old man.
>facebook
Look at this child.
Your qtard group is waiting for you.
The internet died when the web came along. 🙁
Sure. Don't forget to leave a like on the fishing trip photos.
>too autistic to change to windows 11 like everyone who has a brain
>not autistic enough to get Linux
I'm sorry you're completely fricking moronic OP.
>changing windows version like a good consumer is autistic now
way to overuse that word into irrelevancy
It's insanely autistic to hold on to a fricking OS like it has any meaning past its use as a tool to use your fricking computer, yes. Do you think normal people go on internet forums to piss their pants in rage about how Steam is forcing them to update from an OS that hasn't been supported by the manufacturer for years?
The only bullshit thing about windows 10 is the online shit. It will just update unknown things. They also try to push shit through the microsoft store and it's utterly moronic. Windows key search even tries to dig into the internet if you're not careful and it's horrendous. It's a computer, it should be sterile, and not reach into the internet unless asked to.
If you especially hate it then look into Loonix
Those 13% need to go back to the manufacturer.
I begrudgingly switched to windows 10 for couple a reasons. admittedly I go to some sketchy pirate websites and alot of them bake malware with ads or embedded in the site. But just use private trackers. No, for a simple reason I don't want to have to abide overly restrictive rules and beg for an invite also the majority of what I'm looking for is public trackers anyways. Two I'm very well aware that some malware doesn't stay localized and will infect the whole network. So even if my activities are above board and safe. My sister is totally technologically inept and as has a room temperature IQ she managed to get ransomware on her on device multiple times. If Microsoft isn't going it support security updates I'm not going to take the risk.
My honest take is there are million reasons not to use windows 10/11, but there are alternatives if you are still hold out it time to migrate to linux. KDE is a decent interface and feel pretty familiar switching from 7 if you are running the OS on halfway decent SSD performance is pretty good too. Also it supports phone integration which 7 doesn't.
It just werks.™
>Using steam
You can only blame yourself
This is one of the most autistic non-issues I have seen people b***hing about in this place and that's really saying something
okay? It's not just me who's upset, Valve is gonna frick over a lot of people with this
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/3821910883987953300/
>a lot
Not really.
There's more Linux users on steam now than Windows 7.
>Win 7 users at this point are all probably well aware that they might get torpedoed by security flaws. The point is that their offline games are compatible with their hardware and will continue to be, but Steam will effectively become some garbage middleware that will prevent the games from working.
>Its like your car company taking your license plate because it's a pre key-fob model and is more vulnerable to theft.
>This is incredibly dumb.
Fricking this
>Win 7 users at this point are all probably well aware that they might get torpedoed by security flaws.
why does this dogma continually get repeated as if everyone is 86 years old and dementia ridden?
>as if everyone is 86 years old and dementia ridden?
nah, just plain stupid if you don't understand why software updates are important
response has nothing to do with what was stated
not partaking, Black personhomosexual
it does though
The games are literally 1 DLL copy paste away from running without steam.
It's more like the government not letting you drive your car because it fails emissions.
BS, it works one day then stops working the next
"upgrading" to win10 has been the most forced event i have witnessed
The world is just doing their best to prevent anyone from still using it, yet it works better than win10 so despite that people still use it
>be win7
>click anything
>instant reaction
>nononono but the secur-
>have no issues
strange isn't it
>How dare you to use your functional non spyware OS that doesn't give us revenue constantly!!!
Pretty much, after all the main goal was and still is
>OS as a service
>How dare you not upgrade for free!!!
"upgrade"
You're the product companies pay for anon
>My info is irrelevant
Is statistics, and everything you do contributes to a global understanding that allows companies to control and sell you stuff
...right
that is why companies bother to put telemetery in everything, because (you)r information doesn't matter
Its all in my head, sure
The idea that it matters is all in your head.
Bro... The fact that you think it's some kind of conspiracy and not universally common knowledge is... Maybe try going outside for a few minutes per day.
It's not worth worrying about. You're like the homosexuals who won't put money in the bank (if you had money to put there, I mean).
>That doesn't happen!
>Oh, well you shouldn't worry about it!
>Uhhhh, well, you must be poor!
Nice deflection, homosexual.
>Bro i think corporations collect our data?
We figured this out in 2011. If you werent here for that yeah some people said "woah" some people said "oh no they can see my dick picks" and no one really cared.
You play video games and browse the internet in 2023, if you fricking cared you would stop. But you wont because you dont care, i dont either. Yeah the info is used for something called "targeted advertising" its annoying but benign if you have adblockers.
If you actually were afraid of spyware you would just use linux instead of relying on microsharts good word lol
Tried arch linux, mint and manjaro
It's a slower system that has to be troubleshooted at every step
You need a lot of free time to actually use that in a basic way
>Sudo install
Is a lie
Everything you just said is completely false, especially for a just werks distro like mint.
>It's a slower system
yes, that's precisely why 99% of servers both bare metal and virtual/containers run on linux. cause its fricking slow. you people just dont give a shit anymore do you? you just say whatever the frick comes into your brain without even thinking.
>running a server on linux instead of a real Unix
Do fat people really?
If you managed to frick up mint you are hopeless. You use win7 because you can't actually learn anything new.
>It's a slower system
You're objectively wrong. Though it may feel that way at first when you're getting used to all the changes. There's definitely a small learning curve that may be worth getting over if you value having control over your PC.
I'm sure the people that have dx12 working on Windows 7 will get chromium working on it.
>Using Windows in 20 fricking 23
Literally no alternative.
Whatever, Black person.
The real reason is security anon. If you were Valve, would you want Steam Client to be a vulnerable gateway?
I'm from Russia and Microsoft is on the opposite side of the barricades, they could install an openly hostile malware with a security update for Windows 10, big tech is practically branch of US government by now.
shouldn't have invaded
console chad with physical media: i own my own games forever
pc cuck with 9 drm launchers: games to be removed at any time
>console cuck with physical media
>physical media contains a 50mb stub to download a 250GB game
Why not just stop updating Steam for Windows 7 users?
New Steam update is awful btw.
You cannot not update steam
The piece of shit forces it's updates or it doesn't let you log in
The best option is just to dll what you bought if you have win7
haha remember when I told pc gays that steam could take away all your games at the drop of a hat a few years ago and you all laughed in my face? pepperidge farm remembers
They still haven't done it.
You can drive one day then your emissions test says otherwise the next.
Car still works
Not according to the government. And you're too poor to fix it or replace your car.
Steam isnt the govt, that would be MS in this analogy
You know you can play just about any steam game without steam?
wrong
Not wrong. Steam DRM is a complete joke
Just move to linux.
Linux has no games.
It can play whatever garbage OP is playing.
Linux has everything except battle royal goyslop.
You have...Hopkins FBI, some Quake ports, Nethack, and, uh...
You have virtually everything. Everything runs on wine/proton at this point except a handful of games with anti-cheats where the developers have explicitly disallowed the use of linux to play their games.
Those are Windows games. Linux has no games.
Linux has all the games. PCs don’t need exclusives when they have all the power.
Why say things when you literally don't know? With Proton you can play any game that a SteamDeck can, which is most. Some games run Linux natively. You can use Wine for the rest.
Except I stated the truth. With proton you're running Windows games, because Windows has games. With wine, you're playing Windows games, because Windows has games. Name 20 major games that have linux native versions.
Why does it matter if they’re native or not when they play just the same?
How's HDR and VRR? Oh, wait. Those are memes.
I don't even understand what you're talking about.
Linux has both of those things. The only problem with VRR is you can’t use multiple monitors with X while you’re using it.
Ah X, saturating your cpu when you move the mouse too fast.
Full Wayland support can't come fast enough.
VRR is the default on Linux.
>Name 20 major games that have linux native versions.
https://store.steampowered.com/linux
everything that is labeled as steam play has a native linux version.
I see nothing with that label on the front page.
look for this icon.
Doesn't that just mean it runs on the 'eck?
no thats the steam play icon. it means this game has a native linux version.
I see no indication of nativeness. That's just showing compatibility with the hack.
Nice schizo post. I never said there was no telemetry. I just said you're fricking insane for caring. Stop having child porn and it won't be an issue. Most pedophiles hide it with their Switch games and FF9 isos anyway.
>You definitely care about telemetry because that's the only way I can pretend that's what I was talking about!
>Uhh, you must watch CP!
Lmao I truly have no idea how your schizo brain fabricated all these claims when all I originally said was that it's not a conspiracy that corporations track and use your data.
Lol.
iirc deck is linux based so it doubles as deck/linux compatible.
Nah that icon was added way back when Gaben tried to sell you steam machines. It means the game runs natively on Linux.
Oh, I see, you're just looking for a gotcha rather than having a discussion. Yeah no shit most games are gonna be running natively on Windows because they have by far the most users. The relevant discussion would be about how available games are on Linux (regardless is running natively or not), in which case they are currently very available.
I said Windows has the games. You're playing Windows games, not linux games. Nobody cares about linux except fat people.
You're totally right bro. Just like Nike has basketball. You're a genius bro
you're talking with paranoid contrarian dumb fricks who think operating an OS requires a menu start, are concerned for their privacy and at the same time think that security patches are a global conspiracy. there's no point in discussing this unless just straight up making fun of them, they're too far gone.
Upgrade or go to Linux you whiny gay.
just upgrade, moron
it's on YOU to do so, they're offering ample time to either find a workaround or just upgrade, the upgrade costs you nothing, you can disable telemetry and make it incredibly lithe. there is no excuse beyond moronation and stubbornness. 10/11 are not win8, they're not vista, they're cromulent.
I know how you feel, I stuck on xp until 8.1 came out, then I realized it really just doesn't fricking matter.
I plan to but I dont want to just yet and would just want to be able to play my games while I'm in between upgrading which will take a while cause have to get new parts etc
>the upgrade costs you nothing
yes it does. valve is not offering to pay for the new copy of windows. if there are gray methods to get it for free, it involves drawbacks or risks that don't exist with keeping win7.
what actually costs nothing is leaving a copy of the old steam client/api alone so that people can keep using it for their existing games.
but most incredible of all, there is still NO actual reason to move except for forced compatibility issues that every win7 user already knows about and realizes that new games just don't fricking matter.
if they want people to move so badly why don't they just make a better OS with wanted features instead of just having their team of indians add more bloat, DRM, TPM, and other bullshit?
You can legally install Windows 11 for free if you don't mind a watermark on the desktop. It's not gray.
>what actually costs nothing is leaving a copy of the old steam client/api alone so that people can keep using it for their existing games.
maintaining an old API costs money you clown.
MULTI-BILLION-DOLLAR CORPORATION
You don't stay rich by wasting money.
what accident did you have, cause i refuse to believe you're this stupid just by yourself
I have Windows 10 since the free update and woldnt care to pay 1 whole euro to get it again.
Nobody cares about W7 or Linux.
Will it not work at all?
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A
>After that date, the Steam Client will no longer run on those versions of Windows
Damn that sucks. For like, all 3 win7gays left.
>327,600
And thats just those who have steam or done the Survey, real amount is probably 400,000-500,000
stop crying and install linux already you baby
not my problem
Ironically if you actually want to own your games you need to pirate them.
>has money for 120 games
>doesn't have money for a new PC
you're a moron
120 games over like a decade you colossal moron
So you can drop, what, $400-600 every year for a decade on games, but can't set aside a couple hundred a year to save up for a new PC? Frick off.
Whining isn't going to stop it. You can make a change or lose your games. Please post when steam no longer launches so I can laugh at you.
>You can make a change or lose your games.
GLARK GLARK GLARK GLARK THANK YOU GABEN DADDY
I dont have this problem, I use linux with win10 on another disk. OP doesnt and hes going to get assfricked and Im going to laugh
install linux. keep the hardware and still run your games.
PIRATE
all games free. Forever.
>upgraded from 7 a few months ago
>suddenly a bunch of inexplicable oddities across many programs that I’d just dealt with for years all vanished
Everyone says "7 still works perfectly fine," but I don’t think you realize how much actually isn’t.
they say it works fine because it's what they're used to, so whatever weirdness that happens is literally them going "well i guess that's just random PC gaming bullshit" instead of thinking there's something wrong with their operating system
this. i used pretty much every widnows os saince 95. went from 7 to 8, 10 and now 11. 7 was by far the least stable out of the four. Not say, XP levels of "reformat every 6 months" but it's still not even comparable to the later versions. i literally never had to reinstall windows between 2015-2020. if you told me that in the 2000s i would just straight up said you're fricking lying.
>hasnt played monster world, which needs win10
You dont deserve to make your own threads
I'm so glad I get to see these threads for the next 180 days so I can laugh at this Black person every month.
I use linux with windows btw.
Yes yes you're running an almost 15 year old OS that's inferior in every way to modern OS's which also run the same games. You are such a victim, and your life is so hard (because you make it that way with your dumb decisions and attitude). Have your (you).
Starts my gaming rig
Open task manager
End task
End task
End task
End task
En task...
Why are they making this? I just wanna play a game I dont want 7 open tasks from a native microsoft edge shit that i never use... mozilla is my forever fren.
Why do i have to end all shity tasks?
And for the antivirus kaspersky is your "true" fren anon bro.
And even better now with their shity update on steam that consumes 1 gb of ram...
>open 4 tabs in mozilla
>5gb of ram now taken up
browsers are moronicly huge memory hogs and it makes almost no sense.
browsers cache ram. unused ram is useless ram. browsers will cache shit to make your experience run faster and then when you need it for other stuff it will free it up.
You are lying so bad... it is incredible.
Theres literally an image 2 posts above you that show firefox using ~3gb of memory.
Only a Black person uses firefox when playing vidya. You use your rig with your head not overloading it, but you morons have to overcharge things.
If you are going to use firefox with a game just pause it, minimuce it and them open firefox, them close it. Because if you close it the tasks end.. this doesnt happen with homosexual edge. It keeps opening and swallowing ram no matter how many time you close it.
A shameful dysplay!
A shamefull dysplay, indeed!
it shows firefox CACHING 3GB of memory. You all are under a misconception that if something is using your ram then it's bad, but even in that screenshot it shows 84% usage. That user has fricking 6GB of ram, judged based on the percentage and the amount used. Are you telling me that on a normal, average gaming PC that caching ~2GB of ram to make your shit run faster when you need it is a problem, when the average gaming PC has 16GB of ram?
Yeah thats fair. Plus the windows task manager is notoriously dog shit and often gives back completely inaccurate readings.
>it shows firefox CACHING 3GB of memory
>8GB of memory in 2023
bout to have 16gb soon dont worry
but apparently that won't be enough already
youll feel it in bigger games like any paradox game, Planetcoaster/planetzoo and the sims 3 strangely
All of them desire terabytes of ram.
yes, you just proved my point, integratedgraphicsgay. Windows caching is different from a program caching RAM. A program like a web browser will expand to fit the ram you have. The frick are you gonna do with empty RAM anyway? Look at it? Admire how low the bar goes? No, the browser says "Hey, you've got this much RAM free, let me expand into this unused portion of RAM and when you need it, I'll give it back".
why does a web browser need that much ram? a web page is just text and a few image assets. if a website is using more than that it's probably trying to do something I don't want it to. frick everything about modern computing.
>a web page is just text and a few image assets
well you confirmed you have no idea how the internet works in the slightest
like I said if a website is doing more than loading the text and images on it then it's probably trying to run some cancer that I don't want it to be
and yet you're literally on Ganker who has ad trackers and google analytics running in the background
sounds kinda hypocritical buddy
time to stop using the internet altogether
Yeah this shit is ridiculous, I have to upgrade my RAM already
>mfw i just upgraded to 16gb of ram power
>mfw its still not enough
I remember when 2-4gb was the standard. absolute ballers had 8
forever playing catch up
My life would not be impacted in any way if every Windows 7 user permanently boycotted steam
I'm really good at Battlebit, you'd no longer have me on your squad, and would perform less optimally as a result
Didnt you hear anons....
Ahem ahem.
FIREFOX is the chad of explorers you can see it by the seething in the responses.
>get spied on for every click with google chrome
>get BLOATED with firefox
>use chinese rootkit opera
pick your fricking poison
End-of-support does not mean the program will stop running period you morons.
Thats exactly what it means https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A
Valve's say-so in the thing you're posting is that it's due to Chromium, and that *updates* will not work. There's no way they can retroactively brick older versions of Steam without it legally being considered malware.
Valve is correct regardless though in that you really do need to fricking update, you're running an OS from the better part of 20 years ago. If you want to complain about privacy, go to Ganker and ask for debloated or privacy-forward versions of Windows 10 and 11, they are very numerous and they do exist.
You probably are covid dna modified vaxxed and cheered for unvaxxed to be jailed.
They just don't want to spend time and resources making sure their application runs on a dead OS.
Either change your OS or don't play games.
These are your only choices you whiny little shit.
>They just don't want to spend time and resources making sure their application runs on a dead OS.
They haven't for years. Stop saying shit that's been addressed.
>spend time and resources making sure their application runs on a dead OS.
They don't have to cause it just works
Chromium is pulling a DX12 move, arbitrary reason to ditch the old OS
Can someone explain why people refuse to just go to windows 10.
Tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists that think windows 10 is going to mindcontrol them or something?
The same shit excuses came out with people refusing to upgrade from XP to 7.
And the same is going to happen with people refusing to go from 10 to 11.
Literally autism.
They can't handle change.
7 > 10 > 11 > XP > 8 >>>>>>> Vista
A combination of stubbornness and outright laziness in OS research; nobody is demanding they move to completely vanilla, all privacy-fricker options on and locked Windows 10 or Windows 11.
>the taskbar on windows 11!!!
Get RetroBar, StartAllBack, or Open Shell.
>the privacy!!!
Go to Ganker, there are a huge number of repos and links for "privacy first" versions of Windows 10 and 11.
>the TPM!!!
Disabling the TPM requirement on Windows 11 is even more trivial than locking your privacy down.
>i don't wanna!!!
Bet you didn't wanna update from Windows 98 to XP and from XP to Vista or 7 too, gayet.
Just update bro!
You just update your annus to be bigger fren, its good!
You were given a list of solutions that address most common resistances against updating, if you're still unwilling to move off then that's not my problem. Spread my ass wide and kiss it, Windows 7 fren, you'll want to get used to the flavors of shit and abandonment.
Sorry homosexual but i dont like to be tormmented with tons of stupid task i dont control .
And stay ending this tasks without end like a moron.
>but muh apperinaaa that blocks tasks in win 10?!
To othe with hat fairy tale....
We know very well to each other now.
You're afraid of problems that don't exist.
Yeah.
Tell that to this anon here from above:
What is he (are you) actually doing in the Task Manager? Microsoft Edge doesn't auto-start anything in W11.
>W11
Kek
Hes prpbably talking about win 10. When you start windows and open task manager edge is on... for some homosexual news or whetever...
In win11 well you can imagine...
don't you dare use a pikmin gif, i'll throw you into a body of water without whistling you back
>Get RetroBar, StartAllBack, or Open Shell
can't use 10/11 without programs like these but the fact that you need them just to make their interfaces tolerable is damning. also i'm an aero fanboy and you can't make windows look like that anymore without windowblinds, which is gay
>Go to Ganker, there are a huge number of repos and links for "privacy first" versions of Windows 10 and 11.
i can live with "hardened" windows and i already use shit like simplewall on 7 to block m$ ips, but you're a fool if you genuinely think you can fullly remove all telemetry from 10 or 11 on online systems
>Disabling the TPM requirement on Windows 11 is even more trivial than locking your privacy down
it's not so much that it's hard to disable and rather that a. it's fricking stupid why do i need to do this and b. microsoft has full control over windows and they could easily prevent you from using 11 without tpm or pluton or whatever if they wanted to, hell they could brick third-party programs like open shell and explorerpatcher if they felt REALLY ballsy
and no i don't want to reinstall windows and hundreds of programs, it's fricking tedious, especially with how much crap you need to do to "fix" 10 /11, and my install is such a clusterfrick i'd have to do a clean install. testicles
i don't know if it'll play out EXACTLY like xp but i'm pretty sure it won't physically stop working on 7 when 2024 arrives at least. if you want to be extra sure, you could disable updates a few days before then by putting BootStrapperInhibitAll=enable and BootStrapperForceSelfUpdate=disable in steam.cfg, i'm still using the old vgui client with the og green steam skin thanks to that
good luck using windows update and intune and defender or whatever the frick to "stay secure" after hundreds of pcs in your organization get bricked by another untested, forced security update lmao
You will own nothing and be happy.
i WILL own things and i WILL still be unhappy, but not because of the fact that i own things
valor*nt, f*rtnite and genshit not running on linux or 7 and 8.1 is a good thing, actually
I'll do that then, hopefully its not instant the next day, if it is, then hopefully the .cfg thing works, cause I just want to access my game library
>good luck using windows update and intune and defender or whatever the frick to "stay secure" after hundreds of pcs in your organization get bricked by another untested, forced security update lmao
yeah, it's literally how every single system operates and it's always a risk. you build shit, you create bugs, some you find, some get through. that's the way it is, but it's incomparable risk to what you're setting yourself up for when leaving shit unpatched. but i'm sure every single software security professional on the planet is wrong and some random NEET video game addict on a basket weaving forum figured out they've been wrong all along.
also
>using windows for anything other than video games
lol lmao even
>using windows for anything other than video games
i'm a creature of habit
they had a valid point about 7 removing the classic start menu and vista fricking up explorer lol, at least aero actually fricking looked good and the windows ui team wasn't composed of frappucino-drinking macbook-using baseddevs turning everything into metro shit for tablets back then
>i'm a creature of habit
well quit the moroniced habits, cause you're just plain wrong when it comes to patching, so one of them might be the reason
>removing the classic start menu
if you actually use start menu you're probably brain damaged. who in their right mind clicks on shit when you can just use full text search.
>frappucino-drinking macbook-using baseddevs turning everything into metro shit
metro (and later fluent ui it was called i think) is the antithesis of what apple did, sharp edges, flat icons etc. Apparently the brain doesnt like looking at sharp stuff for too long, you'll probably find something on the topic from ui nerds. w11 went kinda in the apple direction and it's miles better.
Money.
Stupid Black person.
Who the frick pays for windows in 2010+10+1+1+1?
And the rig, moron?
There tons of systems that still run on 32 bit, moronoid , what should we do about them?
>steam: just forget about about them! Frick them!
Well done Black folk!
Didn't microsoft give Windows 10 out for free like 8 years ago? I remember instantly ditching 8.1 once I watched how to disable all the intrusive shit and bloatware 10 comes with out of the box.
you can literally and unironically put in a windows 7 key and windows will activate it under windows 10
don't have a key? go look for desktop PCs on ebay, sort by newest, steal the key from the pictures of the side of the case, congratulations you have windows 10 now
Not my problem.
If you're on Windows 7 in 2023 it's your fault. Not my problem, nor valve's, that you're mentally ill.
also who the frick is this gay idol anime webm spammer? it's like there's a new threadschizo on this desolate wasteland of a board every week
>half the posts itt read with Indian accent
Good morning, sirs!
you don't need steam to open game .exes my ESL frendo
Just a reminder to you holdoutgays that people didn't want to upgrade to 7 either when it was new and had basically the exact same excuses you did.
>all people who skipped Vista
Interesting.
Everyone I knew who had Vista already switched instantly to Win 7 I know I did
Sometimes I think they made 8 weird on purpose because of this
More specifically they made 8 weird because they were banking hard on a "unified Windows platform" at the time. The idea's total failure meant 8.1 was more of a Windows 7 update.
people act like uwp was a failure but they're STILL trying to replace control panel with the uwp settings app and they turned the taskbar into metro shit and winui3 looks like metro shit and oh my fricking god i hATE IT
And it was total garbage with the awful Metro UI, I skipped it
10 and 11 STILL have the fricking metro ui but it's on the desktop now so it's even FRICKING WORSE. just try right clicking the taskbar oh my GOD it's so UGLY
lmao how bad is it?
death
whats with the wide kerning/spacing between options, new Steam UI has this too its ugly idk
The actual explanation is a sad one. The fricks in charge were simply crazy about tablets at the time and could not comprehend the idea of people not wanting their PCs behaving like them.
this entire thread confirmed autistic brainlets that can't handle the slightest amount of change or adjustment and would rather sit on ancient operating systems while everything breaks around them and complain that every single broken thing is a personal slight against them specifically
grow the frick up and either update your shit or move to linux and stop your b***hing
im not autistic enough for linux
but you're just autistic enough to stick with an operating system that would be legal to frick in most countries in the world
for now yeah
unironically windows 10 will run just as good on your current hardware as windows 7, especially if you have an SSD installed. Might as well go ahead and upgrade and get used to it and then when you upgrade you can just drop your current OS drive into the new machine and go from there without any reinstallation fuss
you're just stupid, that's ok, you're on Ganker
i just wanna play vidya
doesnt have anything with that. if my games and software dont work on linux then its simply not an option.
>buh buh buh there are alternatives
no
>get personal edition of Win11 with new custom built
>enable registry editor, msconfig, cmd console and all the other shit they only put in the "business" version
>disable all telemetry through these
>block everything else outgoing that isn't essential with Norton
Not my problem.
>regedit and cmd-exe/terminal
>business only
wat
works on my machine