>"Steel-type Gym Leader"
>just a generic cute girl in a dress
>no armor, no weapons, nothing related to metal whatsoever
>most closely tied to Ampharos, an Electric type
>gym is just an empty room with a bunch of rocks
Can we all admit that this b***h was a failure, and that Houndoom did nothing wrong?
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Before I answer, show me who you think is the epitome of a Steel-type trainer.
This chad right here
he looks more like an awkward incel than anything lol
Rare and fine taste.
Now for Jasmine,
>She's originally a Rock-type trainer, switching to Steel rather recently by GSC/HGSS.
>Gold and Silver had an interesting development, with Jasmine having a vastly different design in the beta.
>Not all trainer designs has to be blatant and over-the-head with the theming. For all we know, she could keep her design and switch to Electric-types in the next game or specialize in two or three types at once.
>Surprisingly, she's still the best-designed female Steel-type specialist thus far.
>What's she supposed to do "Sorry Amphy you're not a Steel type, guess you have to die"
Use it in her team like Volkner's Octillery, or maybe not all Pokémon are meant for battles.
>Surprisingly, she's still the best-designed female Steel-type specialist thus far.
Jasmine has a top tier design, but her only competition for female steel type specialists is this.
>maybe not all Pokémon are meant for battles
That seems to be the intended point, that Pokémon have value other than battle. Though it would have been interesting for Jasmine for have an off-type choice. like maybe replace one of her magnemite with an off-type choice like Corsola (lives by right by the water, is part rock type to fit with her previous type specialty)
Don't forget Amarys as of the DLC.
oh shit. you're right. Game Freak must be making up for lost time.
I don't remember anyone ever saying that she used electric types. But there is someone at the lighthouse so says Jasmine used to use Rock types.
But considering the TCG give her mostly Electric type Pokemon the confusion is understandable.
OP ignoring the lore about Jasmine being a former Rock type gym leader makes me think this thread is bait
Anything as an excuse for me to post more Jasmine feet!~
>Jasmine
>is some kind of rock
morono
>Jas"mine"
>mines have rocks and metal ore
I could see early Jasmine being an Electric Gym Leader where her team would replace Steelix with Ampharos but changed once they added Steel types to not overlap with RBY's gyms. Especially after they decided to add Kanto
>DUDE he's a steel type trainer because he's a knight and wears steel armor lol!!! I wouldn't know otherwise because I'm so low IQ
All Kalosgays are moronic
I genuinely have no idea who this is
There's a reason why a rando trainer class is more popular than the actual named NPCs in XY.
Which one?
it rhymes with sex
SOUL
Who?
>she's a failure because she's not a LARPer.
I don't understand your thinking, OP.
You mean you wouldn't try to LARP if you were a type expert? Not even a little bit?
Why would I announce my weaknesses to everyone around?
based wikstrom poster. the best part about gen 6 is the hot men
Who tf is that? Looks like from some other franchise
Aaaaand this is why the newest games are full of cringe, overdesigned Alphabet soup characters, from ADHD-riddled mouthbreathing homosexuals like this that needs everything to be super obvious
Sorry, I meant this working-class Chad right here
Tell me
Why does he wear the cape?
why wasnt he in paldea
sex
samegay kys
I'll raise you this Chad. His steel is hidden but obvious
>>"Steel-type Gym Leader"
uses steel type Pokemon, is a gym leader,. yes
>>just a generic cute girl in a dress
There's no law that determines what pokemon cute girls are allowed to use, and cute girls often wear dresses
>>no armor, no weapons, nothing related to metal whatsoever
Why would she need that? She's not fighting you, her Pokémon are. Blaine isn't on fire, Pryce isn't made of Ice, Roxannie isn't a stone golem,
>>most closely tied to Ampharos, an Electric type
She's mostly associated with Steelix, Steelix is her ace, she uses it in contests, se uses it in the pokethalon, she trades you one in HGSS. Ampharos is a close second, but what's wrong with that. What's she supposed to do "Sorry Amphy you're not a Steel type, guess you have to die"
>>gym is just an empty room with a bunch of rocks
trainer who used to train rock types, has a gym full of rocks..Whoa....
>Can we all admit that this b***h was a failure,
She's more of a success than you. (though admittedly that's quite a low bar).
>and that Houndoom did nothing wrong?
Houndoom's crime was hiding away in KANTOOO like a b***h, probably because its afraid of JaStacy.
They sought to subvert player expectations. An innocent girl with a Steelix is more surprising than a virile, muscular guy with a Steelix. In Dragon Ball, no one expected the emperor of the universe to be a dwarf with painted lips.
Case in point: Poppy/Tinkaton
>>gym is just an empty room with a bunch of rocks
Just like Brock's gym then? Jasmine used to be a Rock-type Gym Leader until her Onix evolved into Steelix.
>Brock
A half naked guy. No relation
>Misty
A swimmer in a bikini. Relation
>Lt surge
A military man. No Relation
>Erika
A sleepy woman in a Kimono. No relation
>Koga
A nija. Relation
>Blaine
A Scientist. No relation
>Sabrina.
A psychic. Relation
>Giovanni
An italian man in a suit secretely a criminal. No relation
Whats even the problem here? If anything the way modern pokemon made everything too obvius is way worse
Guy with rock hard abs
>>Lt surge
War requires a lot of technology, and thus electricity
Outfit recognizes her oneness with nature
A mad scientist, a character archetype that often has evil lairs in volcanos
Most grounded of all the designs
Careful with all that stretching, you could tear a muscle
>Jasmine
As flat as sheet metal
>Brock
He's a buddhist and trains in a rock garden. Relation
>Koga
>A nija. Relation
No, no relation
He isn't a fighting type specialist
Ninjas would be closer to dark types. And poison is still more fitting for ninjas than fighting
Ninja use all sorts of tools,
Their ranks tend to be a jack of all trades, so any type would work if there's a use for it. Even Normal types.
IIRC an NPC says that she was originally a Rock-type specialist, but switched to Steel when her Onix evolved.
She's a steel type gym leader because those adorable toes make my dick hard as steel.
I bet she paints them steel.
When pokemon g/s/c came out, was Jasmine the poke girl that all boomers had a crush on?
boomers were 30 to 50 years old when gsc came out
I'm talking about the 30 year old boomers of today who were kids that played the game when it came out back in 1999
words have meaning moron
PRETTY sure boomer means old person?
moron
>pretty sure?
he asks, unsure
no i had a crush on quick claw girl
For me, it will always be Erika
Her design in GSC is quite simple really
She wears a summer dress because it's associated with beaches and the sea, because she's the gym leader from a seaside port town.
She's by far the most popular gen 2 character in Japan, so yes. She has several alts in Pokemon Masters for that reason.
See
She WAS an Electric type leader, I forget where exactly this was said.
However, eventually someone noticed that Magnemite was immune to all those poison attacks they thought were killing it, so she became Steel instead.
The actual lore with the Magnemites is that she caught them in Kanto's Power Plant before it became functional again. You can find level 30 wild Magnemites in the Power Plant in Yellow version, which would explain why they hadn't evolved into Magnetons yet.
why would she use Ampharos when the game clearly establishes that it works at the lighthouse and even sends you on a mandatory fetch quest to make sure it keeps working there?
Made for Ampharos wiener
yeah why did they make gym leaders actual believable nuanced people instead of cartoon mascots of their type like my nu-gens bros?
Sleepy sex with Erika!
Mommydom with Lusamine!
Petplay with Valerie!
Sex on the beach with Misty!
Raceplay with Iris!
Cuddling up in Caitlin's hair!
Psychic sex wtih Sabrina!
They got rid of that problem in Gen 7
Lmao
In gen 7 every gym leader literally has hair the color of the type they specialize in
>believable nuanced people
Your bias is speaking.
>Only out of the oridinary part about Caitlin's design is her hair
>Elesa is a literal model, so it tracks that her outfits would be a bit avant garde
>Iris doesn't particularly read as dragon type and her outfit just looks more chuunibyou with her being the new champion
>if you ignore the clownish parts they're not clownish!
>"Rock-type Gym Leader"
>just a generic cute guy in a graphic tee
>no pelts, no weapons, nothing related to rocks whatsoever
>most closely tied to Onix, a Ground type
>gym is just an empty room with a bunch of wood
>Roxanne
>Rock-type Gym leader
>Her pink pantyhose makes my dick rock hard
I see the theme
You now know that the colors on Roxanne's outfit are the same as Nosepass
I don't care. That dress is beautiful, she's a sweetheart, and cares for all Pokemon. How can you not love her? Plus, she has some cute sandals and even cuter feet, plus some nice slender legs~
>Normal-type Gym Leader
>part of a BFWM couple
What did Game Freak mean by this?
This is still the biggest glow up.
>left
Actually look like a ghost or poison type gym leader.
>right
A generic hippie dude you can find anywhere in California
Maybe he was prepping for his ho oh get up.
Why California?
>his shoulder width shrunk
Wtf
Her not being a generic buff masculine steel specialist is probably the entire point of her design
Anon discovers what gap moe is
>more art with Jasmine and Poppy
finally! sauce please?
It really felt like Steel-type was tacked on to her at the last minute.
her ace is Steelix. wtf do you mean Ampharos. she has Steelix and Magnemite.
She's "out of place" in fitting Steel Type because back in the Gameboy Era, Steel was still a "newly discovered type", thus there wasn't a lifetime's worth for someone to be born and raised into the EXACT mold of a "Steel Type Gym Leader".
How the hell could it be newly discovered when magnemites were already a known species made of steel? This makes zero sense.
And what about Skarmory who just lives in Johto? What, did no body live in Johto before the game took place to discover it? I mean nobody lives in Antarctica and we still know what penguins are.
They were originally just Electric, just like the bulldog clown and egg baby who were originally weak to Fighting somehow became strong against it
>bulldog clown and egg baby
What?
Just to be clear, I was describing Type retcons, not that Togepi and Snubbull were electric.
Gen1-2 seemed to treat Pokémon in general like a new thing that just appeared out of nowhere not too long ago,
What about fossil pokemon then?
Several pokedex entries in gen I also seem to imply that Pokemon were arround for a long time. Like Arcanine being worshipped in China.
So pokemkn have been around for millions of years but people are just started learning about then very recently, I guess.
The way I interpret it is people knew the species existed but because of new discoveries in taxonomy they reshuffled the classifications around and ended up creating a new steel type category as a result. Same thing happens yearly with birds. Councils meet and split / combine species all the time, effectively creating and destroying new species each year, but it's all just on paper. The actual animals are unchanged from how they always were.
What did Houndoom do?
being a bad dog 🙁
>Captcha:HARD
she was an electric type gym leader before magnemite mutated or something
Your thesis is that gym leaders should physically and/or visually embody their type in some way. Okay.
>Brock
Just some Shirtless dude. Fail.
>Misty
Described as, literally, always wearing a swimsuit. Pass.
>Lt. Surge
An American soldier and war veteran, which has nothing to do with electricity Fail.
>Erica
Chick in a kimono. It doesn't even have a flower/plant pattern on it until later redesigns. Fail.
>Sabrina
Has psychic powers. While this isn't really reflected in her appearance, psychic powers aren't really something you can depict visually so it gets a pass.
>Koga
Ninja. Ninjas use poison, I suppose? Pass.
>Blaine
Scientist in a lab coat. Fail.
>Giovanni
Yakuza. Has nothing to do with ground. Fail.
>Falkner
I guess his outfit is sorta blue, like the sky...? I think they were trying, but yeah, fail.
>Bugsy
Dressed like a hiker or something and carried a bug catching net. Pass.
>Whitney
Just some generic chick. So, I guess that's a pass for Normal.
>Chuck
Some kind of body builder or martial artist, based on his black belt. Pass.
>Morty
Just some guy with a headband. Supposedly he can like see the future or something? Except that's a psychic power, not a ghost power. Fail.
>Pryce
Just some old man with a cane. Fail.
>Clair
The blue hair is supposed to be evocative of Dratini/Dragonair and the cape is sort of wing-like? Pass.
So apart from Jasmine, we have eight gym leaders who are nothing like their specialty, and six who're designed to embody their type in some way. Jasmine, having nothing steel-like going on, fits with the majority.
>Yakuza. Has nothing to do with ground. Fail.
I think the Yakuza prefer to do their jobs underground *badum tss*
That's why she is great
Pokemon was better when trainers were not walking memes
this
and i hate everyone who likes the bottom designs
Unironically this is for the better. I like gym leaders that have personality other than being a walking caricature of their type.
she always wears a chastity belt made of steel
she has a hymen of steel
So what happens if you apply the usual Pokémon design groupings to human characters? Things like the Cool/cute/weird, slightly cartoon animal, animal+element, folklore copypaste, objectmon, and so on?
She's based and has a based bro.
Not every gym leader needs to be overly designed.
Steel has
>lesbian petite woman
>gay suitguy twink
>bara miner
>techno twink
>bara knight
>space twink
>generic fat ceo
>fat ceo's bara brother
>toddler
>and autistic schoolgirl
Also interesting that Jasmine and Peony are the only steel-type specialists to not have grey, black, or blue as their primary color
Those are the most common colors for Steel-type Pokémon as well. Not much different than poison defaulting to purple.
I'll take the lesbian, toddler and autistic girl. you can keep your gay men (I respect Peony though)
How is Jasmine lesbian?
But she has cute feet so I forgive her.
Her name is Mikan.
Mikan means oranges.
She should be grass type if anything.
>he doesn't know