>still the best mouse ever made
>mine finally shat out on me after 20+ years
what's the best replacement/clone?
>still the best mouse ever made. >mine finally shat out on me after 20+ years
>still the best mouse ever made
>mine finally shat out on me after 20+ years
what's the best replacement/clone?
>400 DPI
No
You literally don't need more.
if A 20+ year sensor is enough for you, you probably only play casual/easy games.
every new mouse copy the zowie EC2A.
low dpi = increased latency
I use a 1dpi mouse for this reason. Unfortunately to press the post button I had to throw the mouse out of my window. But I never click on the wrong thing!
>botposting
cringe
>low dpi = increased latency
is this the new way they are getting zoomers to buy new and "better" mice?
it's simply a fact moron
no
Ok lets bet. I prove you wrong, you post "I'm a homosexual and I'm sorry for being wrong".
If you're so confident, you'll accept.
>more needless math to process
>more inaccurate
>"less input lag"
kys already
>Won't take the bet
I accept your concession.
It's not a marketing scheme. Lower DPI objectively has increased latency.
It doesn't, you're a zoomer who bought a $140 mouse with 16,000 dpi to play Valorant.
Ok then take the bet. You will post "I'm a giant homosexual and I'm wrong" if I prove you wrong.
If you're confident you'll take the bet.
he's shitposting. soon he'll post a linus video explaining why newer mice are better
You're so confident but you won't take the bet. I accept your concession.
>the 23 years old high school dropout who call everybody zoomer to feel better about himself and doesn't understand people his age have a lot of money
>Paying more for a worse product makes you a badass
it makes you a dumbass
not that anon but can you just make your argument? this is autism
Imagine being so dumb you fall for marketing schemes, anything more than 400 dpi is unnecessary and if you go too far it's hurting your ability to play the game.
I used the intellimouse for a while and wanted to try something new so I went with an EC2, the shape is good but I've had trouble with it from day 1, had to send 2 back for faulty mouse wheels, one also had the oddest mouse button shifts when clicking, and the third one i guess is a slightly different make so the mouse wheel works but you actually have to put effort into it to move it.
>not using 800 or 1600 and adjusting your in-game sens to account for it
>not using 16000 or 32000 dpi and adjusting your ingame sens to account for it
most sensors start adding automatic smoothing past 3200 dpi
>not using 160000 or 320000 dpi to compensate for the smoothing
I'll use high dpi when most games start implementing more precise sensitivity scaling options. But until then, If you like playing with a low mouse sensitivity, 400 dpi is still your best option.
use rawaccel you giga moron
Someone once told me to use it but I have absolutely no idea how to set it up. I don't want any acceleration, just a flat reduction in sensitivity speed but all the options are confusing.
>Someone once told me to use it but I have absolutely no idea how to set it up
download rawaccel
install rawaccel
set a flat profile
set your sens to whatever you want in any game at a good dpi
I literally do. 3200 minimum for most stuff.
get the frick out of my thread you zoomer homosexual
it’s 1000 dpi
>what's the best replacement/clone?
https://github.com/narsn/MLT04-Emulation
i play 300dpi at 1440p with no issues
fricking cs pros and quake nerds use 400-800 you dumb ass
youtubers destroyed zoomies brains. no point responding
i still use intellimouse
this isnt an intellimouse
The OP is asking for replacement suggestions, dumbass.
>Mine finally shit out on me
Like the switches, or the actual mouse board itself?
If it's just the switches you can buy new ones and they're cheap as frick.
buy new IM
you could send the mouse to some modder and have them replace the sensor, of course it will cost though. zowie/vaxee are the closest to a modern day IM (no rgb shit, no software shit whatsoever)
I tried it, felt the thumb buttons were very flimsy. This was a time when I had good need of them so I didn't fancy it a whole lot.
there are no thumb buttons on a wmo
i think every modern gaming mouse tries to imitate the IM, so just buy whatever
microsoft makes a newer version they sell directly on their store if you really want that
otherwise you can get stuff like a zowie which doesn't need drivers and is basically a 90% clone of the intellimouse with a few extra features like the dpi button on the bottom
It's a good, reliable mouse but by no means the best. For me it's the Logitech G502, at least the original version that doesn't have the double click issue. Still running strong since like 2015.
had mine since around the time of release as well, it did start double clicking after like 5 years (also scroll wheel click died, but rebinding mouse3 to the lower of the upper side buttons is comfy as frick though so whatever) but got a macro that fixes it somewhat
then again I've smashed it into the floor 100+ times these last 6-7 years so maybe I should be happy it still mostly works
I absolutely agree. To replace my intelli mouse, I got the Zowie EC1 eVo
It is as close as your going to get, if not better. Its got the same feel, and shape as the microsoft intelli
Just try to find some old stock mouse. New mice are designed to break after 4 months.
if you bought the mouse, accepting you're old enough that your response time is shot to shit so it basically doesn't matter and just getting something comfortable for your grip style and wired because you're old and understand wireless is the devil and your wife keeps stealing all the batteries in the house for some reason.
Someone explain the mouses with holes thing.
Is it supposed to be lighter? what frail fricking wrists do people have that a couple of grams of plastic would matter? Airflow? Are your mice getting sweaty?
Are you grating cheese with them? I respect this.
If you have to ask, you're too moronic to understand. stick to you anime games.
Does sengoku rance count. I don't want to just play princess maker 2 its pretty good but I've already got up to making her a demon queen.
>No, Mom, you don't understand! I need the mouse with the holes in it to score headshots in Valorant!!!!1
yes, it's to make them lighter.
no, there's no point explaining, as no amount of explanation will satisfy you, so yes, zoomer wrists weak, times are bad, world is doomed, zoomers and israelites ruined everything.
No I mean, I'm not actually meming you I assume a wrist is a wrist.
But it's plastic, surely most of the weight of a mouse is going to be on the bottom, removing a web of plastic from the top can't really shed much weight.
Why not just make the mouse out of something really light or frick I don't know, use a trackball?
>Why not just make the mouse out of something really light
actually they made a mouse out of magnesium for this specific purpose, it's stupidly expensive
carbon fiber. 350 usd. it's nice
Okay see this I get. I again don't really understand why you need it to be so light but at least I can say "yes, this mouse will be lighter"
so the idea I believe is essentially a "perfect" controller would just be your hand moving, so the lighter you get the mouse the closer you get to just moving your hand around, people also use lower friction mouse feet and better quality mouse pads to improve movement as well
Alright, I guess I can understand that. Thank you anon.
Okay the wire being a drag is not a question. Who would want a wire that gets snagged on shit.
But it is a solved problem
Heavier requires less friction to move it once you start moving it.
Lighter and you run into issues if its too light, as the subtle twitches of your muscles accidentally move the 0g mouse.
>Lighter and you run into issues if its too light, as the subtle twitches of your muscles accidentally move the 0g mouse.
skill issue, surgeons use tiny scalpels, they just have to git gud
Surgeons count on the weight of the scalped and hand plus resistance of flesh to not give way to twitching.
But there is one additional problem once you go light enough:
The cable has drag and spring. One of the big reasons why wireless mouses where initially popular was that the 2000s PC mouse cables where beefy, and had a lot of drag. Without a mouse bungee, it was noticeable.
While the cable quality has improved a lot, its still a issue. If mouse is light enough, the cable will spring it once you let go.
your hand stops it from moving if you're gripping it correctly
there are also low weight wireless mice
>your hand stops
They never do.
However its a matter of the hands quivering below the perceivable, if your hands are healthy. Just like with your eyes.
Not to say there isn't a lot of gamers with damaged hands from lack of muscle, too tight tendons, or deformation from weak childhoods.
But the quiver never goes away. If your mouse has enough DPI and is too light, it should quiver a few pixels even in the hands of a surgeon.
Its almost as if too big DPI is bad.
Anon, your mouse is supposed to be on the table, not hovering above it you mong
>not using 1,600,000dpi or 3,200,000 dpi to compensate for shitty and slow human movements
Correct, sure is summer in here fr fr tho
>essentially a "perfect" controller would just be your hand moving
Debunked in the 60's.
>so the idea I believe is essentially a "perfect" controller would just be your hand moving
some weirdo on esreality.com made magnet based mouse so it floated and it was terrible
moronic choice for anything hitscan. "okay" for guns with recoil
Yes, It's perfect for tracking/hitscan, feels like you're aiming directly with your eyes.
It's designed for fingertip grip, too small to claw. You guys don't have to like it, that's fine, but I do.
Used a few zowies and yeah they do feel similar to the intellimouse.
If you play shooters or other aim intensive games lightweight is the way.
>claw Black folk will defend this
lmfao
Uh tl;dr Coolermaster wants to be more than just THE BEST at making cases, so they made a mouse with holes in it that's lighter and makes your hand less sweaty.
Then everyone cloned it.
It technically does work, but it's kind of a meme if you don't live like, right on the equator and it getting that hot is a problem for your mouse hand.
Lighter mouse takes less effort tomove, can be moved faster. But you already knew that, you just needed that boost to your ego for the day.
damn zoomers must all be weak girl pussies
Seething zoomie trannies. Go back to watching your fortnite eceleb shitter play videogames for you.
idk, lighter mouses don't sound right to me. some weight adds comfort
t.g502gay
G502 is the only "heavy" mouse that actually feels like it's faster and can also stop on a dime
i bought a mm710 to try a mouse with holes out, honestly doesn't even notice the lack of weight anymore. i think you just get used to whatever you use, and all this mouse does is collect dust on the inside
Someone explain the weighted mouse meme, I think I have a Zelotes or something, idgaf just needed a mouse. They're adjustable but I never really notice them, I haven't thought about it in years until now...
Not sure, I have something similar. I set the DPI to 3 of 6 for most games but some games flip out and have to be set to 1
I keep the RGB off as well
viper mini
endgame xm1 (or modern variants)
I think steelseries has a very close shape clone but I'm not sure how good their modern mice are
Perhaps the same mouse if it lasted you 20+ years
>think it's finally dying
>open it up, remove the shit and cum, reset the wire and it works fine again
I've been wanting to buy an MX Master for many years but this motherfricker just won't die.
This mouse is awful. I got memed into buying one and it fricking sucks. Pic related is 10x better.
Like look at this, the holes are maybe at best 10% of the material I doubt even that much weight. It doesn't make sense!
The heat thing maybe makes sense I've got to be honest my hands while sweaty monstrosities don't actually get hot using a mouse. Maybe when I was younger it'd happen on a controller when you're hammering the thing because you're too stupid to realise staring at solidus while he chokes you makes it way harder.
Sorry I got side tracked, I guess the heat thing at least is plausible, but I can't accept the weight-loss argument. I'm not arguing about the need for a lighter mouse, I just mean this doesn't really seem to lose much weight.
there are light mice on the market that have no holes in them, but we're talking about 5g optimisations, which starts to become a big amount when you're between 40 - 70g
The good part of that mouse is that the wire is extremely lightweight and doesn't drag. Not really a point to the holes.
Nice gaming bug house. Free food for them from your dead skin too.
how black are you that you legitimately need to worry about bugs in your electronics
White people are immune to dust and gunk? Good to know.
Mmmmmm a hand cheese harvester.
Plastic is light. The volume of those holes is probably less than the <10g difference between the lightest mice with holes vs the lightest hole-less mice. Also there's some "pro" gaming mice that include ballasts to increase the weight and you probably have LED's in it like the degenerate consoomer that you are.
ENTER
Wish the israelites would just hand over the xm2w
Using one of these right now. I need a replacement, too, but I think I'm just gonna look on eBay for the same thing.
Hopefully you don't get tennis elbow or wrist pain or something OP and have to use a vertical mouse like I do. I had to swap to consoles for a few years.
I can't imagine how pathetic your genes must be to get injured playing video games and having to play on a console like a fricking pleb
it's about bad posture and practises not genes
Yes that's true I did used to lay down in bed alot or hunch over a tiny table and use a small chair. But ergonomics are very important after working in an office it taught me alot lol.
Kek ikr alot of free time with work allows/forces me to sit around at home so I just end up playing games all day probably 12+ hours plus wife works shift work.
Overuse just ends up with RSI unfortunately. Going to the gym alleviated it a bit especially doing forearm exercises but weak tendons will get you every time.
bought this butthole for 10 bucks
it has medium weight (ok)
loud clicks (ok)
is small (bad)
only 2 buttons (ok)
wired (good)
feels kinda cheap overall but for 8 bucks im content
all mice are shit
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZzbKDmFOqsP_ut2RdctD01OEbZzbXol6HLwqVkSmZcg/edit#gid=0
Zowie FK
>posting a decade old list
for what purpose, anon
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/microsoft-classic-intellimouse/94k0pmt1cmfw
Just buy another.
PSYCHE
THAT'S THE WRONG NUMBER
>classic
>internals are all different
sensei raw was the perfect shape for ambi. The xm1 by endgear game is basically a clone. I love it.
Op's mouse is a 1.1a or 1.1 i cant even remember you linked the 3.0 moron
I've never used this specific mouse but going by how old it is and the general design I GUARANTEE it spins out if you flick too fast.
>Coming tomorrow
can't wait
it's VERY overrated.
how fricking skinny and weak are some of you that you actually need the mouse to be lighter to be able to move it across the desk. im fricking dying laughing here
Mine died after only like 3 years of use, the cord just got destroyed.
TECKNET Wireless Silent Mouse 2.4 GHz Quiet Wireless Mouse with 30 Months Battery Life, Side Control, No Click Noise, 5 Adjustable DPI Levels, Up to 3000 DPI, 6 Buttons, USB Nano Reveiver is all you need
>400 dpi
>still almost too fast on desktop
also reminder to use 500 polling rate instead of 1k.
>>DPI DOES NOT INCREASE LATENCY
>wanna bet?
>>N-NO
lmao
r8 me 🙂
2/10, might have been decent in 2014
Razer Viper Ultimate
>what's the best replacement/clone?
I switched to a Zowie FK2-B a couple months ago after mine finally shat the bed after 12 years of use and so far it's a perfect replacement. Shape is relatively the same, and the weight is pretty much equal too
Though I will say mine was an Intellimouse 3.0
Pic related
honest question: does having 6 thumb function frick me over in the long run with having to use my left hand? Pic rel I'm a moron who can't even into default setting so I set up all my fps to use them, but loading up something like quake? frick it, it takes an extra step for me to use the num pad up to of keyboard for quick select. should i stop? lol
i wouldn't use it for fast paced/flick aim fps games since if you need to use the mouse button while moving the mouse it will frick up your grip.
for quake i recommend using buttons around wasd to bind all the weapons, there should be enough for all of them.
for slow things (whether fps or other types of games) doesn't really matter if you don't find using the thumb all the time uncomfortable.
if youre still in this thread ty for the advice godbles
Picked up a new gaming mouse yesterday, 30 bucks for one that's supposed to be 150 bucks.
Wouldn't have bought it at the original price, but for 30 bucks it's probably worth a try. Probably won't replace my regular trackball, but it has a lot of buttons and I like the idea of the touchpad for scroll.
What games do you play anon? Can you play FPS with a trackball? always been curious about them
You can, I wouldn't recommend it. I've got a cheap regular mouse for the occasional time I feel like playing quake or CS, which is honestly pretty rare these days.
Trackballs are just slower to use for precision aiming unless you run a crazy zoomer 7cm/360 turn radius or something. I guess some people make it work with acceleration, but I can't get on with that stuff, I prefer rail flicks. For everything SP, it works fine and I don't care about the minor loss of accuracy. General browsing is where it shines, much comfier to use.
>unironically using 400dpi at 2560x1440
literally any medium sized ambi mouse
Ninjutso Katana, easily
Ive been using this shitter Amazon mouse for years and its been good to me
the holes get shit stuck in them though
forgot pic
youre like a moron that's only driven one car and claims that other cars are shit. You're not as smart or as insightful as you think you are.
>t. tesla soiboi moron homosexual
Still using mine, excellent size, no weird shapes, no zoomer unnecessary colors, gets the job done and super durable (mine's 12+ years)
intellimous pro
I think mine is comfy.
i had intellimouse for 10 years and Razer DeathAdder for 2 years, they are indistinguishable from each other, other than 2 macros versus one.
>no thumb buttons
Wrong version.