Stormcast Eternals are pretty cool
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I bought the starter set for Soulbound last weekend and I think they're pretty neat.
Warriors dying and being reincarnated as super knights is a cool concept. It just feels out of place with the grim and dirty picture of Warhammer Fantasy that I have in my mind. Maybe there's some dark twist that makes it cool?
Everytime they die and get "reforged", they lose a bit about themselves. Eventually they end up becoming soulless killing machines. From what I understand, anyways.
Yeah but it varies massively
For some its 3 deaths and your already feeling like you lost half your memories
For others they can die a dozen times and dont feel a thing
I think it's cool. Can make a great story if done right.
Nice dubs.
also sometimes it turns weird
Genuinely cool table. Not super into AoS so forgive me for asking, but what book is this from?
Soulbound, Cuble 7's AoS rpg, probably core book
Thanks dude, might take a look.
It's from the Champions of Order splatbook.
They lose a bit of themselves each time they die. Basically they get to fight until they become personality deprived soulless killing machines (order demons basically). So congrats on being a true hero and being selected. Your reward is endless strife and combat until you earn you way into non-sentience and eventual destruction.
But you're likely a chad so you do it anyways knowing you will be used in defense of your people and their descendants.
concept wise, i don't mind them. design wise, most of the minis are downright boring. they've improved a bit lately with a few of the kits, but not enough to love the "hammers, hammers everywhere" aesthetic.
They look better as spartan/hoplites.
I'm not very fond of them, but for some reason this model in particular just clicks for me.
Get the updated one from the Warcry Warband.
nah, they're too fat, their decorations too chunky and their fluff is excessively centralised, treats magic like technology, and doesn't actually explore or take into consideration how their key defining trait would change their look and behaviour
thunderstrikes are better in the aesthetic department, but the fluff is still unaddressed unless you heavily customise them yourself
also the name is ugly
If they looked like KotBS i might buy them. As they are they are just obese slobs, actually worse than Tomb Kings skeletons.
They're sóy.
The Thunderstrike models look decent with a bit of work and that's about the most generous thing I can say about them.
Where do you get heads like that? That looks great.
It was from the Empire Greatswords kit I believe. You only got a few in the box though, probably better to go 3rd party.
Stormcasts are aesthetically inferior to Space Marines, but are narratively superior. The fact they lived full lives and were fully developed people before becoming super soldiers means they’re much more rounded personality-wise than the child soldier Space Marines. Plus, they actually live alongside the citizens they protect and, while still heroes, aren’t some deified mythical figure. The average Sigmarite has likely seen a Stormcast, and that means the Stormcasts more regularly interact with mortals and have a closer bond to them.
I just wish their aesthetic was closer to
It’s funny how much people aren’t aware of this. Stormcasts have immortality in basically the same way Undead do in Dark Souls. Yeah you can’t die, but you lose more and more of yourself with each death. It’s incredibly grim dark, but then people go “muh stakes.”
They should have regular helmets with a face for a visor and such, kinda like roman cavalry did, allegedly anyways
It makes sense thematically to give them death-masks, but it's undercut by how they have normal human faces underneath. I'd vibe with them more if they were corpses or energy beings inside the armour.
The lore isn't bad per se, but the fact they're tied to the Sigmarwank of the foundational AoS lore, and the fact the models have always looked goofy with those big shoulderpads and hammers, just kind of means the concept never came together.
>Stormcasts have immortality in basically the same way Undead do in Dark Souls.
Yes, but that doesn't really mean anything to humanity, in which case it makes him a better warrior and you will see him again next week, plus nothing stops him from regaining that humanity over time.
When a marine dies it's fricked up because it means one less marine for humanity.
>nothing stops him from regaining that humanity over time.
Not a SCE lore expert but I'm pretty sure once it's gone, it's gone. They can't get it back over time, it's just a slow downward spiral that gets worse and worse every time they reforge.
I only know the Soulbound starter set lore but there is an area for Eternals only where they leave notes of what they know and love in order to continue remembering after being reforged.
Leaving a message for your future amnesiac self isn't the same thing as regaining those memories. That's like saying the protagonist of Memento didn't have memory issues just because he left notes to himself.
I never implied that. I just think it's fun have something to work towards to.
During the Realmgate wars there were more than a couple of Stormcast who were reforged and returned with their old memories either as something remembered, a synthesis into a new person, or reverting back to old traits and personalities
Outside of reforging I can’t think of any other method of this though
if every stormcast looked like this people wouldn't have shat on them so hard (although they would have made the dark souls comparison even more than they already do)
I think its mostly bad, really bad, impressions AoS gave when it first came out
Like it was outright unfinished and was hightailing the high profile disaster of the End Times
What do you think is the error in the design of the SCEs?
In my opinion it is the golden death mask, it seems too tacky.
Their helmets are shit, how do you talk with that on your head or how do you breathe?
I don't hate SCEs but I do think they're one of the least interesting factions in all of AoS in regards to both fluff and aesthetics.
They aren't. They are Space Marines without everything that makes Space Marines cool, like racism, chauvinism and religious zealotry and thus missing their entire appeal
Whoa, dude. Racism is never cool.
>Racism is never cool.
It's cool when you use it against lower species and when I say lower species I mean everything that is not human.
All of that's incredibly boring. In fact, the religious zealotry undermines the most interesting aspect of the space marine legions, the fact that they're weird cultures unto themselves that remember their own history and stand outside the orthodoxy of the repressive and fanatical empire they defend.
I actually like the concept of Reforging. Clearly an allegory for the dehumanizing experience of war.
Space Marines used to be satire / allegory but they are played straight in modern times.
>Space Marines used to be satire / allegory
Very tired of this tertiary take
I agree
yeah I also don't get why people shit on stormcast. yes they're the space marines of AoS and I think people hate them because they were born out of End Times.
But I think GW did a good job, or at least an honest attempt, to make them more unique. People see the blue and gold scheme and dismiss them as ultramarine clones but some of the other schemes are much cooler. They look good in silver, green, and tan.
These are the two free minis GW lets people pick, but I must say the stormcast has a much cooler silhoutte.
IIRC knight questors travel alone and dispense justice wherever they go like zoro. p cool. there's a hammer and bolter episode where a famous questor takes down an entire Orc encampment by getting his ass kicked in their arena.
If, like me, you like the Warhammer Fantasy setting in spite of GW's hamfisted custodianship of it, Stormcast are emblematic of their most annoying tendencies.
>Hammers everywhere
>Sigmar Sigmar Sigmar
>Space marines sell, put space marines in everything
Combine that with the initial launch of AoS ripping out everything that was appealing about WFB to hold onto meaningless signifiers like... the names of the Winds of Magic? Then you've primed your old fanbase so that the stormcast will always inspire visceral revulsion.
They do look a lot better with spears though, you're right.
>meaningless signifiers
*copyrightable signifiers
I love how bad GW has been with names since they’ve existed
>Hammers everywhere
You lost me. The emphasis of war hammers as cultural iconography is one of the cool little details of Warhammer. You never get love for blugeons in fantasy aside from the rare dwarf.
It'd be cooler if their armors were their bodies instead and not just an armor over a weak fleshy body.
Like their soul infused in blocks of stormcast metal to make perfect warriors rather than just superhumans
Why are they all adults? Has no child lost their life fighting Chaos? Where are the all e-girl units?
Don't they get selected because they were good warriors in life?
If it just happens when you get killed by a daemon then I'm choosing to imagine the children get reincarnated as those little gryphon-dog familiars.
You must have acted selflessly in your final moments against Chaos iirc. The hero in one of the books was a physician who defended his hospital and got himself killed.
According to the lore, they are all made from the same mold, although actually Sigmar went to the trouble of creating a second female mold instead of perfecting the first and avoiding the whole issue of losing humanity, but details... details.
>sigmarines
Yes, more diverse and less problematic than Space Marines, truly reflective of the world we live in today.
Wow, the they/them elf from wfb got to come back?
They kill the oldword and not afraid of anything.
it's not a new criticism but they absolutely look way too much like space marines
I think they are fine as a faction conceptually but would have preferred them to be toned down a bit in bulk and color, made more gaunt, maybe more scale and chain instead of power armor-tier plate with more hints at their supernatural pseudo-undead nature in line with the masks. that said this is coming from someone who thinks AoS aesthetics are ridiculously over the top in general, even for high fantasy
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