Everything goes- how Gamefreak treated them, how normal people treated them, how compgays treated them, how much suffering is in their pokedex entry, how much and what kind of attention they got in secondary media, roll that into a ball and put the mon on the chart. I'll start with some.
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Talonflame
100 suffering
10 deserved
He did not deserve to die like that just because shitters couldn't take a rock pokemon.
>120 bp priority move
frick you it deserved every bit
Chart so far
Frick you and frick your fricking bird, it was bullshit, it got punished, and it deserved every bit of that punishment. And it's still not a complete shitmon after the nerfs. Go Brave Bird into a wall while you have priority.
>chair lizard
Charizard is very contentious, it recieved a lot of love from Gamefreak and from KANTOOO guys but at the same time got lots of rolled eyes from everyone else and a lot of jobbing both in and out of games. Some pain but a lot less than it deserved sounds about right to me
Regi deserves the 100/0 spot, 100%.
Parasect brought Spore into this world, it deserves at least some of that infinite pain it's in.
Wobbuffet deserves all of the suffering it gets and gets all the suffering it deserves. That's just how Wobbuffet do.
>max suffering pleases regigigas
Masochist
>hey let’s fill out a chart
>okay here’s where this mon should go
>frick you it goes here
Shit thread OP
hard to make a chart that's supposed to fill 100 spots when everyone puts their mon into the same spots. or same mon into five different spots.
everyone is posting the same thing "my favorite mon is suffering so much and deserves to suffer so little, wahhhh"
what the frick did you expect
PL, high suffering, mid deserve
>Frick you and frick your fricking bird, [seething seething]
this is not how the game goes you fricking sperg, just put the pokemon in the chart and stop arguing
Last for today.
Talongays don't deserve human rights. Only Talongays.
>Blaziken
15 Suffering, 70 Deserved
>Gengar
10 Suffering, 75 Deserved
Rhyperior
Suffering: 80
Deserved: 0
(So just below Sunflora)
Also where are Arezu, and Arezu's thighs?
Arezu... didn't suffer at all, but deserves it a little bit. I guess?
She abandoned her clan, iirc, and never had to go through a "prove your worth or die in the wilderness, lol" trial like you did.
Honestly, one of my biggest takeaways from when I played PLA a few weeks ago since my buddy got it, is how much of a literal fricking who Arezu is. I don't even get why so much porn of her thighs exists, like, fukkin wat?
She's literally just like Marnie. A literal who character that barely does anything and has virtually no personality, yet gets shilled and coomed to countless times.
I guess. I'm actually just starting SWSH this week, same buddy has these games but doesn't play 'em, so I'm feasting on shit these few weeks, and Marnie indeed seems to just kinda... exist. I didn't think coomers were THAT easily hypnotized.
Also, I was so excited for Volo, but got so disappointed by that payoff. Everyone has been like "Volo is the hardest fight in the series", and I was looking forwards to getting my ass kicked and building a team to counter him.
I spammed Gyarados because I'm a moronic meme machine, and it was getting increasingly funny that applying a single Gyarados made Hisui's problems disappear without exception, and using only Gyarados regardless of the situation was making my friend laugh, and I was so excited that he'd put an end to my only Gyarados ways, but Gyarados absolutely wrecked him. I think I only lost 3 of my Gyarados in the fight, and I was like, 7 levels lower than him. Props, he killed more Gyarados than literally anything else in the game, even that fukkin Electrode, but goddamn.
Either Gyarados is the secret cheat code for PLA and using 6 of them breaks the game, or goddamn is the average person shit at pokemon if spamming Gyarados is better than 90% of players. Or somewhere in between.
What a weird game. The atmosphere, plot, and worldbuilding were so, so strange.
Speaking of which, what's his name, the Rowan, commander guy from PLA.
He suffered about 30, but deserved to suffer about 80. God damn what a moron. Dude was about to fricking banzai charge his entire civilization, which collectively struggles to catch 3 pokemon, explicitly including fricking Bidoof which asks you to catch it, mind you, into gods after making an enemy of you, the most terrifying person to set foot on the planet.
What if you HAD been evil, just, think about that. What if he was RIGHT. And he pisses you off, puts on his special needs suit, and declares he's got this.
No, he deserved to be absolutely and utterly humiliated.
It's Kamado you're talking about.
Also Arezu wasn't my propositon, just a joke because of the last chart.
Frick you, autistic Black person. Talonflame wasn't even such a big deal if you weren't an idiot and had at least an answer out of what, every single rock type, Rotom, Lando, and hell, even shit like Chansey and Blissy made it suicide.
You are just another scrub on the maggot pile.
Talonflame got killed because autistic Black folk like you kept crying. You are even worse than the morons who keep crying "NOOOO SMOGON BANNED MY OBVIOUSLY BROKEN POKEMON!!!!"
>send out rock type
>burned by will-o-wisp so it's useless
Epic
>NOOOO THE S.DEF SET!!!!!
Use a fricking electric type then, or bulky special water. Or still kill it with a fricking rock move.
I'm just saying most rock types aren't actually an answer considering burn pretty much makes them useless the rest of the match. I'm surprised you didn't mention Heatran.
I prefer forgetting Shitroony. Now that's an abomination
Cope and take your thin version of an Angry Bird away from my matches, Black person
Manga pryce
S:5. D: 100
Literaly got away with everything
Forgot pic
aggron
suffering: 90
deserved: 5
needs its mega again so it doesn't get instapwned the moment something with earthquake/earth power/close combat/aura sphere is sent out
even its mega is shit because it has no recovery other than Rest
Smeargle suffered a lot more than you think it did. Deserves it way less than 105.
>Dark Void nerfed by GF for the explicit purpose of nerfing Smeargle
>shit tier stats (PU shitmon since 2013)
>altering cave event in FRLG was unused, making it only catchable in emerald/colosseum/xd in gen III
>cut from the dex
>moody ban
hey niggemoron, explain to the class why Smeargle deserves hell and got no punishment when he was castrated in gen 7.
frick off op
I was told 0 suffering 100+ deserved so I put it there, if there are compelling arguments later in the thread to raise its suffering he's free to move, he's got an entire column to itself.
Zacian
Suffering: 0
Deserved: 100
100 suffering, 70 deserved
You do not get to put Greninja down as 100 suffering when he gets the best hidden ability, the best event ability, is in Smash, and is prominently featured in anime and merch.
>but he's not in Gen 8
okay but that's not 100 suffering material
Burastu baan jokes for 6 years and being called jobfrog for years because of that
80 suffering at the absolute worst
>gets rekt in Kalos League Finals
>gets retconned in Journeys
He's suffering
Charizard
Suffering: 0
Deserved: 80
Don't know if I'm doing this right. If something feels off, either feel free not to include it, or replace it if another Pokemon is worthy.
It did get suffering with rocks but all off the attention it gets nulifies it, that's a tricky one
If attention counts, then Raichu should be at 75 suffering points.
Zard has definitely suffered.
Not only rocks, but it was the lowest rated of the original 3 starters in competitive for a long time, and back in the day, its name was even associated with pokemon that are tiered above where they belong in Smogon because people insist on using them anyways. Charizard Syndrome, ie "This pokemon is an RU shitter, but you can't use it in RU where it might even be good, because morons insist on bringing it into OU enough to get it tiered there".
It's also THE 8 year old pokemon, with a moveset of Flamethrower, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, and Cut for coverage.
Charizard actually suffers a lot of indignities that are uniquely possible because of its popularity. Poliwrath and Alakazam don't have to worry about a 4 year old chewing on their figurine nearly as much as Charizard does.
Regigigas
Suffering: 100
Deserved: 0
Sceptile
Suffering: 90
Deserving: 0
Sceptile got screwed over by the Physical/Special moves split in Gen 4 harder than any other 'mon to my knowledge.
If its special movepool equaled its physical movepool, or its physical and special attacks swapped, it'd be decent.
Could still use other improvements here and there, but either one of those two could take it from NU to RU/UU at least.
Typhlosion arguably has it worse. Sceptile lost Crunch and Thunderpunch but at least it retained Dragon Claw/(Pulse). And besides attacks, it's always been good as a fast leech sneeder as an option.
But without thunderpunch, Typhlosion has NOTHING besides fire STAB and that's it.
And on the note of gen 2 starters, Meganium. What the frick was gamefreak thinking.
>haha yeah bro let's just make Venusaur but worse in every single way and also give it no moves. It's totally tanky bro so it's cool that it can take a few hits before it dies without accomplishing anything anyway.
Also Sceptile wasn't fricked over by a Pokemon that was introduced the Gen before it that has the EXACT same stats, except is literally better in every possible way because Game Freak worships that mon like a false idol. .
Typhlosion
Suffering 80
Deserving 0
typh is kinda boring so that's automatic 10-15 deserving
>Arcanine
Suffering 55, Deserving 25
Suffering 60, Deserving 30
Suffering 5, Deserving 85-90
(0, 90)
I really wanted to carry this b***h in my BW2 run, but she keep breaking like glass, even over leveled.
Masuda
Suffering 50
Deserved 100
Ohmori at 100-100
suffering 90
deserved 10
I use Corsola and it’s variation as much as I can. I’ve always liked it
CHARIZARD
0 suffering 40 deserved
Was shit on in the anime a bit but became the poster boy of Kanto, got a promotion to being the only pokemon from the pokemon trainer to be playable in smash 4, got 2 mega’s, a gigantimax, was Leon’s ace, and many more things in favor of it that I can’t think of. Just by association of Kanto pandering it should suffer a bit but won’t ever due to game freak worshipping it.
Not sure about deserved, but Parasect and the Galar fossils are the two that come to mind for suffering.
Smeargle:
Suffering: If BP is banned, 100; If not; 0
Deserving: It’s over 9000
what would boi pussy do for Smeargle?
Suffering: 100
Deserved: 10
anime Serena
Deserved 0
Suffered 25
kecleon
suffering 40
deserved 75
Aerodactyl
Suffering: 80
Deserved: 10
I just realized today that Aerodactyl gets Rock Head but doesn't learn any recoil moves other than double edge. Head Smash and Brave Bird would've been amazing for it.
Suffering 90
Deserved 0
Why doesn't this Black person get Hammer Arm and Mach Punch?
I love Crabominable so much but using him is pain piss poor defense, the ice type, and slow as dirt I get off one good hit but even weak moves leave him on a sliver just so he can get outside and destroyed the next turn please game freak if he returns buff his state at least give him the hariyama treatment and have enough HP so he might survive two turns
It does get Hammer Arm, from Crabrawler.
No it doesn't. Why are you lying, anon?
Suffering: 1000
Deserved: -1000
Suffering: 80
Deserved: 0
Between Game Freak's extreme stubbornness with special Rock-type moves, its typing (take a hint Game Freak) the constant "it's unusable" despite people doing Magikarp playthroughs with only Splash, the fact it couldn't get Aurora Veil in the generation the move was added in, and the fact it's a shitposter/troll/detractor magnet on here with the whole "Ice/Rock doesn't need a buff / Aurorus doesn't need a buff you're using it wrong" with their strawmen, it's a clusterfrick of horseshit, but hey, I guess TPCi wants people to use cum-stained fursuits instead.
#ThankYouGameFreak
I really want to like/use aurorus but it's the posterboy for gamefreak fricking up. Ice is a shitty defensive type but GF keeps making slow "defensive" ice types. Rock is a shitty defensive type but GF keeps making slow "defensive" rock types. And here we have aurorus, which is a slow rock/ice type with a billion weaknesses that will go down instantly.
Literally all they need to do, without even needing to change the type chart, to make an ice/rock type work is to make it FAST so it can actually accomplish something.
I like how Gamefreak proved they did their homework and learned from Aurorus, and used what they learned to recreate Aurorus, except with the few good things about Aurorus removed. What if it had unusable special defence, undermining its defensive abilities? What if it was physical, and thus had no good STAB on EITHER side, while also being susceptible to Intimidate and Burn? What if it was slow enough to be outsped by many "slow" pokemon, but just fast enough to be unusable in Trick Romm?
They called their masterpiece Hisuian Avalugg
>Literally all they need to do, without even needing to change the type chart, to make an ice/rock type work is to make it FAST so it can actually accomplish something.
How is that supposed to buff Aurorus and Hisuian Avalugg?
Hard mode: don't reply with "they're unsalvageable", because saying so means whoever says that has the same amount of effort as Game Freak, which is 0 (but on the rare occasions they do show some form of effort it's to make a shillmon OP and another a gimmick form for Charizard).
I never said anything about buffing a particular rock/ice pokemon. I said the only way to make such a type work is if it's designed as a fast offensive mon rather than a slow defensive one.
If Aurorus had Power Gem and like, 102, 103 speed, hard dump physical attack, then shave off the defenses to get it, it might genuinely be okay. Ice/Rock is pretty godtier offensive typing, special rock in general is actually a very good thing if the pokemon has it, Aurorus already compliments those with Thunderbolt. It wouldn't be OU without a nuts ability or access to something nutty like Quiver Dance, but it might break into UU.
Hisuian Avalugg... might genuinely be unsalvageable, without either inventing a ton of new shit to give it, giving it moronic abilities like Wonder Guard, or fundamentally redesigning the pokemon so it can do better things. Your best bet would be distributing a bit of that Defense to SpDef and Speed, like, 60, 65 speed is the sweet spot, then giving it No Guard and Shell Smash. Even then, I'm not sure if it's as good as Cloyster, Minior, or Polteageist as a Smasher. No, I have no idea how to justify Avalugg being that fast, or what is left after Avalugg smashes the huge hunk of shit that is its body, but frick it. Wooper punches, Avalugg breaks its own spine then goes vroom.
Ice/Rock is so bad that even being fast and strong wouldn't be enough to guarantee that it's good. They're both really good offensive types, yet have to rely on coverage to deal with Steel which walls both. It dies to pretty much any priority in existence. It can't switch in to anything. It's a fricking disaster of a type combo.
>Ice/Rock is so bad that even being fast and strong wouldn't be enough to guarantee that it's good.
The problem is that Game Freak is too lazy and void of any effort outside of making shillmons OP to give a shit.
If I could and had the time to I'd make a ROM hack to buff those two typings.
sandslash
suffering: 50
deserved: 5
cool pokemon that suffered from powercreep and obscurity. it got some attention back in 2016 with an alolan form (which made the species viable but just adding new forms isn't good balancing imo) but the last time it got any appreciable attention after that was sandshrew community day for the 20 or so people on this board which still play pokemon go.
at least it's one of the few pokemon to simultaneously look cute and cool
Wobbuffet
s 50
d 5
changing to suffering 45, didn't see the Sandslash post
Lando at 5, 75
>5, 75
What does the 75 mean, that it deserves to suffer of that if deserves its good fortune.
Suffering and how much they deserve to suffer. Lando deserves to suffer but doesn't suffer much.
Cinderace
Suffering 5
Deserved 95
Gyarados at 0/0, or 0suffering/5deserved
Gyarados is an incredibly cool pokemon that nobody hates and is not cancer, and it has gotten consistent quality of life buffs, is available in almost every single game
It is as much of a monster in gen 8 or PLA as it was in gen 1, and is always one of the gold standards for just picking a random pokemon and running with it.
Gyarados' only flaws are the minor imperfections that keep it beloved, and the only reason it would be at 5 deserved is because by raw probability of how many games it has been in, it SHOULD have been fricked at least once, but never has been.
Gyarados is slightly inconvenienced by a typing it can't really exploit, tbh
Lurantis
Suffering: 30-35. Suffers a little from coomers and a low speed total. Not as bad as Sunflora at least 😉
Deserved: 10-15.
It deserves to suffer for thinking it'd be clever to disguise itself as a bug, which isn't even a good typing and already shares several weaknesses with grass. Dumb plant.
Meh? I'd argue the totem Lurantis murdering unprepared teams gives it more suffering points than the bug disguise.
It really surprises me how Mantine got a baby form, but not pokemon like Skarmory and Tropius that would benefit from it more.
Flareon. 100 suffering, 5 or 10 deserved.
Its only sin is being an eeveelution, which is inherently a pretty shilly position.
But Flareon absolutely does not deserve the purgatory it has endured.
Armaldo, something like 70 Suffering, 0 or 5 Deserved. Armaldo is so cool, but is so bad. Anorith is an awful ingame pokemon with horrible movepool issues, as Armaldo It had weird move illegality issues back when it was released, and has never kept up with power creep, always getting things shortly after they become obselete. It has a very uncomfortable speed/bulk/defensive typing spread that makes it feel so, so frail.
Other pokemon have suffered more, but Armaldo has never deserved it.
Snorlax. Something like 40, 50 suffering, 80 deserved. After gen 2, Snorlax deserved to be raked over the coals, castrated, and made to never enjoy life again. It's also a tier 3 shillmon, but that's more or less cancelled out by it being a comfy Totoro bro. It got Close Combat being born, which was a good start, then it got left out of Megas, but it hasn't suffered as much as it should have.
Tauros. 40 deserved, 80 received.
Taurus was the king of gen 1. Now he's the king of half a bag of cheetos. He was upstaged by his woman from gen 2 onwards, is left out of all the big gen 1 nostalgia pandering, had his individuality culled by Ash catching 30 of the fricking things, and is almost never available for ingame. It somehow escaped being reviled for being THE meta dominant pokemon, though.
It's one of the only pokemon you can canonically eat ingame though, and that fricking stings. Tauros isn't even in Alola, (I think), but they still kill and import his ass, so you can eat him.
Latios.
60 suffering, 20-25 deserved.
It's a shilled legendary that got a Mega, but Latios at heart is a good guy that laid down his life to save a city from a crises created by some criminals. He died knowing his beloved, precious little sister was hungering for human dick, and there was nothing he could do about it.
Also he gets prison raped by Banded Tyranitar in Pursuit Jail.
Sableye.
90-100, deserved 50-60 received. Mega Sableye was a fricking blight on competitive, and that fricking joke where it was banned to Ubers for literally a few hours made it seem even more like a smug little piece of shit than it already was.
Then it got its mega taken by the march of time, and nobody fricking cares anymore. Still a little butthole, it probably deserves more of a comeuppance, but this is fine.
Shiftry, 45 suffering, 30 deserved.
Shiftry is such an unfortunate pokemon, but it is an utter and complete butthole, so it kinda balances out. It never really actually DOES anything to deserve its suffering, but that's probably because it's so weak and ineffectual. Honestly, Shiftry is kinda like a Ganker poster. Kind of a dick, deserves most of what it gets, but you can't help but feel like it's getting a raw deal to begin with.
Though it's blessed in Pokemon XD, so maybe it's less punished that I figure?
Skarmory
Suffering 10: Would be 0 if not for Corviknight existing, before its hasn't suffered. Even though it hasn't been given much, it has always gotten just what it needs.
Deserved 10-15: Cool mon that hasn't done anything wrong. Never been shilled, shoved in our face, and even though it's been good it has never been broken. However, something that's been on top for so long deserves to be knocked off its pedestal at least once
Skarmory suffered a bit more in the past, with pokemon like Magnezone and Magneton, whose entire purpose in life was to follow it home at night.
Also, Skarmory wasn't buffed, when its linked foil pokemon, Mantine was. Skarmory also didn't get a baby form, stupid as that is, when Mantine did.
Honestly, considering Skarmory and Mantine are siblings, Skarmory is the sibling that works their ass off, makes something for themselves, but is pretty clearly liked less than Mantine, the one that doesn't really do anything, dropped out of college by preference, and just kinda exists.
>Skarmory is the sibling that works their ass off, makes something for themselves, but is pretty clearly liked less than Mantine, the one that doesn't really do anything, dropped out of college by preference, and just kinda exists.
That's an interesting way to put it but your right, Mantine even got a Minigame in USUM while Skarmory has never been prominent featured in anything. Weird how Skarmory ended up so much better than Mantine regardless.
>, but not Pokémon like Skarmory and Tropius that would benefit from it more.
to be fair, it's not like babies really help the mons that get them,
>Kind of a dick, deserves most of what it gets, but you can't help but feel like it's getting a raw deal to begin with.
So Shiftry, and by extension Ganker, is pic related.
Starmie, 80 suffering, 15 deserved
It was always a fairly popular and OU tier mon and has Kanto privilege, but it never oppressed the meta enough to deserve this, and the only shilling it ever got was being Misty's ace.
Its stats simply cannot keep up with power creep anymore and it's on free-fall straight to Untiered at this point, it's definitely suffered more than Greninja that's for sure
Espurr
Suffering: 60
Deserved: 100
God I want to sexually humiliate and bully a male Espurr and Meowstic
PMD Kecleon
Suffering: 10
Deserved: 10
primeape
100 suffering 0 deserved
it's been 2 gens already how the frick is he still not in frick
That's not that much suffering.
When was the last regional dex Glameow was even in?
PLA and BDSP have given it some recency, but this poor bastard has NEVER been in a game that wasn't directly related to gen 4. Even in gen 4, it's rare.
And it's not like this is a rare, super good pokemon either, it's a gigashitmon with so few redeeming qualities that nobody even misses it.
It deserves a bit of suffering for being such a monster to get over in gen 4 Nuzlockes, but if you want to nominate a pokemon for being left out of games, Glameow gets it first.
Glameow didn't cry when it heard of Dexit, because it hadn't been in a game in nearly a decade already.
i kneel. let's hope both our shitmons make it to SV
0 0 Quagsire
10 0 Sableye
we were super lucky to have finished the last one
I want to post it.
Terrible idea for a thread kys
Tyranitar
Suffering: 35
Deserved: 80
Cinderace
Currently Suffering: 10 - +10 only because it wasn't in Smash. It is shilled everywhere else despite it not even being a top 5 mon in its own region
Deserved to Suffer: 90 - Given a completely broken ability for no reason. Shilled in Unite and Anime. Very ugly humanmon that looks worse than both of its prevolutions. One of the worst shillmons in the entire franchise despite its low popularity.
Chochodile (French Fuecoco)
Suffering: 35
Deserved: 0
Shilldog
20 suffering, 100 deserved
Furgay magnet, biggest shillmon, degenerate, proud of its power meme, broken ass mega shoved into you in XY
barely suffered unless you count pic related
Didn't know Greninja was adept of Indie Pogo
Where do my homies Beheeyem and Reuniclus stand?
>Flygon
Suffered: around 75
Deserved: sub 15
Also while we are at it, Spinda 60,60 seems an obvious meme.
Flygon has NOT suffered that much.
Neglect caps out at 50 suffering, and tons of pokemon are more neglected than Flygon.
Besides that, Flygon deserves a small amount of suffering on account of how shit Vibrava is.
Flygon is not another terrible BST spread mono Normal type with no gimmick tho, yet gets treated like one. I feel that counts at least 60. And yes, the 15 is due to Vibrava.
I hate this meme. Flygon has always been and continues to be a solid mon. Just because there's a pseudolegendary with the same typing doesn't somehow mean flygon got fricked. It's like saying Quagsire got cucked by Swampert.
>b-b-but muh lack of a mega-evo
mega-evos are fricking cringe and I'm glad they're gone anyway.
>Bug Type
Suffered: 80 to 90
Deserved: 0 to 10
>no official legends, only a mythical (let's not start this again to pls I do like Genesect)
>95% terrible
>rocks
>terrible both offensive and defensively
>nerfed by Fairy for no reason
>usually paired with other defensively terrible types
>only 1 good move until G4, and it's exclusive to what would be the onlu decent bug for generations
>literally designed to be weak by GF, with many ingame NPCs saying so
>bug gyms are jokes in every game, because of cocoonmons being used by leaders
>still no TCG Kadabra or non-game Porygon
Give them 0:60+ to both
Castform
>Suffering: 55
>Deserved: 20
BALLS, boring shite stats, entire gimmick requires loading up on weather moves, signature move no longer exclusive, no sandstorm form, poor availability, is artificial, almost kidnapped in gen 3
I don't understand why gamefreak makes these types of "unique" pokemon like gen 2 unown, gen 3 castform, gen 4 cherrim and they're always so useless and pointless. What's even the point of having interesting gimmicks and multiple forms if the pokemon are so shit that they do nothing but sit in a box forever anyway?
At least with darmanitan, you can just get a non-zen-mode one to ignore that gimmick and still have a good pokemon
Where's the update?
first they nerfed hidden power to 60 bp. then they just removed hidden power from the game.
unown is the true 100 suffering 0 deserving - but i can settle for 90 suffering.
It got buffed in PLA though, and if Hidden Power remains its signature move, that's how it will probably stay.
0 Suffering.
0 Deserved.
Maybe 10 deserved if you're still angry about that time you lost to Serene Grace flinches.
Lizardon has assblasted so many manbabies
GameFreak
100 deserved
0 suffering
Fricking footgays
X 80
Y 0
e-girlcons
>1000 suffering
>0 deserving
the other way around
So zero suffering and totally deserving it?
Actually it's 0 suffering.
Any amount of suffering is completely counteracted by a single, perfectly ripe, freshly picked, juicy dicky.
> Got fricked over while it's counterpart got an evolution in Gen 4
> Fricked over by the physical/special split
> Got a mega only to get robbed of it by gen 8.
> Not in Sw/Sh
>Horrid stats besides attack
> Pokedex entry is sad yet doesn't make a lick of sense in context
Suffering: 100
Deserve: 5
wobbuffet for 50/50 or i riot