What I’ve gathered and I’m happy. Even stronger hardware and Game Pass Day 1. No change for its exclusivity strategy.
Summary of Xbox Business Update
What I’ve gathered and I’m happy. Even stronger hardware and Game Pass Day 1. No change for its exclusivity strategy.
I can't complain, although they have yet to say when they will add the old Activision games to Gamepass.
I doubt they add old ones. Most of those they don't even sell on any platform anymore
>34 million Gamepass subs
>we're not making money
HOW the frick!?!?!
>buys 15 studios in your path
the funny thing is it'll be profitable before the next console generation
they said they needed 100 million subs by 2030 or xbox would stop existing
34 mil subs is roughly 350 mega millions a month. Theyre literally swimming in money
minus taxes and other publishes shares and maintenance costs and current project costs and future project costs and new sneakers to employees so they can attend the work is great day of running and whatever the shit
they xbox branch spends more than it earns and investors are unhappy
Source?
phil talked about their current business model being unviable, hence why they had to fire thousands of actiblizz
> Game Pass is $17 a month
> Need $1.7 billion a month to survive
> Spiderman 2 video game cost rumored to be $300 million
> 5-6 Spiderman 2's per month
It's 5 dollars a month. Basically free compared to 250M+ $ they are spending on their games.
Gamepass is 15 dollars a month, not 5.
That's $510,000,000 a month. How in the frick is that not profitable?
>lost sales from people not buying games they normally would if they weren't on game pass
>money spent getting 3rd party games on gamepass
only the highest tier is 17 dollars, the other tier is 10 dollars. it's also very easy to spend less than that using free trials and shit
If they're spending $511M or more a month to maintain those licenses on game pass.
That seems unlikely
Gamepass's reputation is poison to gaming publishers. They're probably paying a ton to get games on there.
No it isn't.
>all those games that leave GP
>always the only important games
I think anon's right
>important
So we like AAA games now?
No. Important as in recognizeable.
>little moron that doesn't like exclusive and buys a system for third party multiplat fodder buys a xbox (for some reason)
>GP has the game he likes; example, Naruto Shippuden Ninja Stom 3
>Little moron thinks "cool!, I'mm getting that Gamepass thing!"
>2 days later
>Xbox: "We're announcing these games will leave Gamepass soon (something, something and (what a coincidence) Naruto Shippuden Ninja Storm 3"
>repeat ad infinitum
In the end GP is a GaaS; a scam.
Perhaps I’m not quite as moronic as the average moron, but I think it’s pretty obvious that most third party games on game pass are on there for as long as the publisher agreed for it to be on there. The only games on there permanently are first party, meaning it’s obvious that something like P5R wasn’t going to be on it forever. By nature, any subscription service is a service
>Perhaps I’m not quite as moronic as the average moron, but I think it’s pretty obvious that most third party games on game pass are on there for as long as the publisher agreed for it to be on there.
Which pretty much confirms
>The only games on there permanently are first party, meaning it’s obvious that something like P5R wasn’t going to be on it forever
You'd think that but guess what games are forever on gamepass? Tell no lies, A johnny cardboard adventure from the bafta award nominee studio in indie dev category john due games. Gamepass is simply a bad service
>larian saying bg3 will never be on gamepass
>kotick testifying that everyone hates gamepass and that MS would have to buy out activision to get their shit on there
???
>microsoft admitted it cannibalized games sales
moronic third party based model (AKA no exclusives) ergo selling their systems at loss + graphicprostitute race (to the bottom) = eternal money bleeding
They're trying to shift the attention, everyone knows they're gone. Since Xbox One, and things haven't improved
They are profitable but shareholders demand they keep growing so they are trying their best to grow.
So, I just want to point something out.
Sega's entire catalog is on Gamepass.
Sega's net worth is around 2.5 Billion
Let's say they gave Sega 500 million + X amount of years to have their games on Gamepass
I don't know where Xbox money goes but their HQ is in Redmond Washington.
These motherfrickers made 400 Million after taxes per month. THEY LITERALLY MADE THE MONEY BACK IN 1 MONTH AND BEGIN PROFITING THE NEXT MONTH. How the frick and why the frick do they keep saying they're not making money on Gamepass? If they paid Sega 1 Billion for this deal that would be stupid as frick but even so it only takes 2 and a half months to start profiting. Again, why the frick do they keep saying they're not making money?????
and all the other games+publishers on gamepass? and all the sales they lose from starfield? look up opportunity cost
>look up opportunity cost
To hammer this point a bit more, they estimated that Starfield would've sold 10 mil PS5 and they decided against that and went with full Xbox exclusivity
Besides Sega there aren't any other major companies with their entire catalog on Gamepass. They all have like one of two games at most meaning it was much cheaper than whatever they paid Sega .
see
your response?
maybe on planet moron
It isn't. Persona 5 was removed from Gamepass, Infinite Wealth isn't on Gamepass, almost no Sonic games are on Gamepass, Sakura Wars, Star Ocean, SMT VI, etc. Please know what you are talking about.
he has an Xbox/gamepass/both, it's obvious he doesn't know what he's talking about
>Sega's entire catalog is on Gamepass.
The Xbox/Microsoft Store is not the same thing as Gamepass idiot.
XBL Gold became Core and was combined into their gamepass numbers to inflate it. Their actual subs have slipped by 2m.
It's over
>It was absolutely nothing
>still somehow worse than expected
>no real elaboration
LMAO So after avoiding to confirm they're dead as frick they ended up saying PS5 will end with the same amount of games it had beforehand?!
>Only 4 games
>None matter a shit
>Couldn't even make it to 5
>Because Halo, once main exclusive IP, is fricking dead
YOU CAN'T MAKE UP THIS SHIT!
Accounts made =/= active users
half the subscriber base are paying like 1 dollar a month
I think it’s only some new accounts that get that offer now
literally nothing, didnt need a podcast for it
I agree. Those rumors were out of proportion and fake. At least, Sony confirmed that they will go into full multiplatform. heh
Xbox is full multiplatform with ps, switch, and day one PC releases
Sony is partial multiplatform with PC ports down the line
big difference
>partial
Delusional
>more games day 1 on pc
so exactly what xbox has been doing?
So, PC wins again?
PC has never won at anything.
>90s had "shitty" software, specs and access to it
>2000s had the death of physical games on it, the inception of GaaS and massive death of devs and studio before flocking onto console game development... also no games
>Late 2000s had Steam taking over
>2010s decade had port begging, paid DLC taking roots and mobile shit ports
>2020s decade has speculation of parts (lmao) that won't dissapear, game capacity bloating, games ported aren't the ones you'd want but they're Sony/Microsoft shit
>Emulation and piracy scene as a whole is shrinking
>Windows, the main OS, is worse than ever
Imagine being a pc gay after gen 7
>Sony confirmed that they will go into full multiplatform
I don't see Xbox or Nintendo build of Wolverine or SM2 among Insomniac leaks. We saw Switch and PS builds of Hi Fi Rush in the game files. Disingenious moron.
>Those rumors were out of proportion and fake
>Sony confirmed that they will go into full multiplatform
kek the absolute lack of self awareness
They needed to respond to the rumors in some way. Having the big wigs come out and definitively say "no, we're not leaving" and to state the future vision of Xbox is better than a Twitter post. I really like how open the Xbox team is when talking about the industry and the platform: they talked about Steam and the Switch, discussed the success of Palworld, the influence of Fortnite and Minecraft. This is a total contrast to the completely inaccessible Nintendo and a slightly less inaccessible Sony - maybe it's a Japanese thing. I mean, can you even imagine the head of Nintendo (whoever that is) talking about Steam?
Sony is the least communicative out of the 3. The few times Nintendo bigwigs get on camera it’s basic corporate speak usually but it’s enough. With Sony you basically get a 30 second overview of the console when it launches and that’s it for 7 years. The Xbox team uses a lot of fluff that isn’t needed but Phil just outright saying “yeah we’re gonna test the waters here for financial reasons, no we’re not gonna stop making consoles” is pretty good for a company (Microsoft) that tends to shoot itself in the foot and pretend nothing happened on a regular basis
Considering how many people are pretending this is a win even though he literally said "we're not going to port games that aren't a year old" Phil hit a triple with this word salad
The rumors got excessive this time, leakers trying to incite console war homosexualry in 2024 should hang
I agree, but what do you expect from typical snoyggers? They will reap what they sow.
since microsoft is about to dominate the whole industry they need trust from within. the rumors were to bait leakers into 'leaking' false information. the leakers are now getting caught. thats why the rumors were crazy and all over the place.
And the crowd goes mild...
Absolutely frick all was this announcement
Yes Sirs truly Xbox is the force to be reckoned with
Redeem the Gamepass code now
>No mention of stopping xboxs
Oh hmmmm, curious, uhhhhh wowww everyone seems so quiet nowwww. Oh maaaaan, where are aaaalllll those people that were saying Xbox was announcing that the Series X was the last one, or that Starfield and Indiana Jones were going multiplet. Ooooo, yikes, I bet you guys are all still here but are reeeeeeally quiet rn and will completely ignore anyone calling you guys out. Oopsie, maybe you'll be smarter next time, doubt it tho.
They'll cancel them at their next business update event podcast.
Suuuuuure
Remember when Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thieves were never going on Switch and PS5?
Remember when Indiana Jones and Starfield were going to go multi-console?
>Doesn't rule it out
Prep your anus
Does series x have a different backwards compatibility list from xbone? Because I feel like not even half my og and 360 games work on that. Why does everyone suck off back compatibility when it's so incomplete?
Everything Xbone can be played on SeX.
Anything older read the list.
The reason not everything from OG/360 is available is because they ship what is essentially a virtual machine running your game in an emulator for the old games from incompatible hardware, and this counts as redistribution, so they have to get all stakeholder approval for each game.
moron. the reason xbone and x/s are compatible is because they're both running the same OS kernel on the same AMD/x86 architecture.
older games aren't compatible because they use different machine code or OS/API. the way they get them to run isn't backward compatibility at all, the devs are porting the game to the newer xbox with completely recompiled executables, and the reason only some games have it is because those are the games ms PAID the devs to port so they could say xbox has backward compatibility for the most popular games. the devs have next to zero incentive to do it on their own, ms doesn't need "approval" from them, they need to fricking pay them for doing the work.
a virtual machine would mean everything would be compatible since the actual hardware/OS running it doesn't matter. stop pretending to understand tech and tech words. you're a console user.
you are so wrong it hurts. the backwards compat. layer is 100% a vm. go do some basic research so you look less stupid.
It’s about 1/4 of the 360 games I think, some games on series X/S get extra enhancements but no different list
they literally bragged about backwards compatibility in their podcast even though they stopped updating in 2021 lmao
The 34 million includes the Xbox Gold subscriptions that were converted to Gamepass Core. lol. No wonder why they haven't been announcing numbers.
>Even stronger hardware
No JRPG, no money.
That simple
>4 games going to ps and switch
>No change in exclusivity strategy
Kek, are you even trying?
They've fallen for it.
34m gamepass sounded just fine until they clarified they had to add core to get to that numbers, that's an oof if I ever saw one.
I love how everyone forgot that happened
>No Starfield or Indiana Jonas multiplatform
Literally false, Spencer said that Shartfield and Indiana aren't part of the 4 games that they're launching on PlayStation Switch, he later told to The Verge that every game is on table to be brought to other platforms
>Only 4 multiplatform games planned
Read above, they're bringing the smaller games first, then the later bigger ones
>Gamepass Day 1
Surprised about this but I would be really surprised if they continue with this approach
>34 million Goypass subscribers
Yeah because millions of them got converted from Xbox Live Gold to core automatically, Goypass subscriptions are either stagnant or declining
>Biggest jump to next gen
Nothingburger, PR talk
>Respect back compat
Okay?
-10+ release 2024
They have like 36 studios aren't they? And many will be most likely smaller games
>June showcase
Meh
Nah they backpedalled hard behind the scenes. Leaks that detailed don't happen unless employees are pissed. 4 dead games getting ported doesn't cause that
>She still thinks they're only bringing 4 games
LMAO
>internally discuss what games to port to test the waters
>some spitballs starfield
>some moronic “leaker” gets a text from an intern saying it’s gonna happen and runs with it
Game “leaking” is worse than tabloid shit at this point
Are you moronic? Shartfield and Indiana will eventually come to PlayStation 5
This is just cope
I never said they wouldn’t, I said people thought it was happening immediately. The entire rumor mill for this rapidly became clickbait and half the morons ending up trying to damage control their own “leaks” over the past several days
>completely disregards the second paragraph
What can we expect from the doom and gloom patrol though? They spouted fake rumors for 2 weeks saying with all confidence that they were indeed facts. Now we are just back on the speculation train.
So it was all just one big nothing? Ganker freaked out all week for NO FRICKING REASON? How disappointing.
Honestly it is a bit worse when you think about it, gamepass numbers had no growth and if anything like
said they are most likely declining, now phil mentioned that xbros better get ready to rebuy everything physically or else, he didn't say starfield wasn't getting a ps release ever, same indiana just so they can get at least still sell some units.
Now phil is executive port begging games from sony and nintendo.
So far only diablo 4 for gamepass until the end of march, then what was the fricking point of buying abk.
It was basically an emergency "please don't worry and keep buying, (at least until it is officially over)".
Game pass numbers were about 10 million fewer the last time they reported in 2022 actually
well yeah, and there were around 9m~11m live gold members that are now "gamepass subscribers" on core tier, so no growth.
So when is the day of reckoning? Next year? I want them to make a decision now and maintain the next chapter of the XBOX story.
Why are we already entering the next generation. They didn't do shit with this one. We're still getting goddamned PS4 games.
There's maybe 2 xbox exclusives this gen even worth playing anyway
XBOX ALWAYS WIN BABYEEEEE
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Elon, when are you coming to Argentina?
>microshit fanboys unironically post on Ganker
>phoneposter sharing his expert level analysis aka some notes he scribbled on his xioami
LMAO
go back
What makes a snoy? What goes wrong in someones life that they hoist the banner of a company and try and tear everyone else down. Thank god for PC gaming.
oh god I'm gonna CUM
>10+ Releases 2024
Bet dimes to donuts that 1 of those releases is Shattered Space DLC not a new game
More back combats? Wonder which ones.