Like I understand that it was made by a different team, but they were allowed to use Peach and Bowser and the fire flower, right? It feels like Daisy and the sphinx and the punch ball and everything else in this game were made to be cheap store brand knock-offs of Mario staples.
Did you even play the game homosexual? None of those things were in it.
Because your mind is poisoned by cookie cutter NSMB shit and you hate everything that deviates from that.
Why was Princess Daisy dabbing on the cover?
None of it mattered. It was a portable NEW mario game and it was good. That was a big deal back then because all we knew was Mario games = the best games ever.
None of you zoomers and even 30 year old boomers can understand what a BIG FRICKING DEAL a portable Mario was in 1989. Nobody thought it was “bootleg”. What a moronic proposition. It was pure magic, it felt like the future.
>It was a portable NEW mario game and it was good
very appropriate use of the past-tense there.
I don't usually think games can age, but this is definitely an exception. as a launch title for what was many people's first portable system, mario land was fine, but when compared to the rest of the series in retrospect I can totally agree with OPs assessment that it feels like a bootleg (even disregarding the obvious reasons why like the out of place enemies and locales). With the strange movement lacking in momentum and short length although that isn't inherently bad It just doesn't live up to the quality standard of any mario game before or since.
You can still enjoy it for what it is 100%, 30 minute little dot matrix adventure with vague mario elements, but you can't deny the limited hardware for the time held it back. No amount of BACK IN MY DAY posting can refute that mario land has become, in the modern day, a sort of oddity in the franchise.
TLDR; it's not 1989 anymore and people have started viewing things in retrospect
>TLDR; it's not 1989 anymore and people have started viewing things in retrospect
At least link us your 1 hour video essay in which you try to convince people that the game didn't age well and that we aren't allowed to enjoy it now. 'In retrospect' my ass
You are looking at it wrong. It is a portable game designed to be beaten in one sitting on the go. It is still just as fun as it was then if you were to play it as intended. Mario Land was NEVER considered mindblowing next level shit. It was considered excellent because it is a real game that is portable. Not some Tiger electronics pseudo-game.
Especially since there was no save system or passcode and the og brick game boy ate AA batteries like a motherfricker. Several times I was on the last world and that battery light would start to get dimmer.
I have to agree. I’m a millennial whose first console was a gameboy color. Even back then, I just couldn't tolerate super mario land. Just didn’t feel right.
Like I understand that it was made by a different team, but they were allowed to use Peach and Bowser and the fire flower, right? It feels like Daisy and the sphinx and the punch ball and everything else in this game were made to be cheap store brand knock-offs of Mario staples.
I remember hearing something how R&D1 more or less didn't like Mario and considered him to be bland, preferring to work on their own franchises. So annoyed were they, particularly with having to go back to the drawing board so their shit wasn't so weird by Mario standards, yes really, that when it came time to think up a villain for Mario Land 2, a frustrated artist drew a parody of Mario, and the team loved it so much they used that.
N-Sider made that up for clicks, and with no interview quotes or other sources to back up their statements. The real reason why Wario was created was because R&D1 wanted to shake up the Mario formula by having a story about Mario trying to win back something that was stolen from him, as opposed to the usual save-the-princess/kingdom plot, and they decided that the villain should be a Bluto-esque rival of Mario.
An official interview with the Super Mario Land 2 developers can be found here: https://shmuplations.com/supermarioland2/
These aren't that big a difference as you make it seem. At the time, Mario's cast hadn't been solidified; making a new Mario with a new land, new powerups, and new villains was expected.
This, and remember that all of the big nintendo franchises on gameboy looked different and weren't ports anyway. They were always meant to be additions to the franchise rather than the next sequel or port. Metroid II looked totally different than Metroid and had a different set p. Kid Icarus was different. Zelda looked closer to the console versions but had a different set of characters and setting.
FWIW I always thought the tiny SML sprite looked more like the Donkey Kong Mario sprite in terms of being really small.
Both it and SMB3 came out within six months of one another. Probably didn't want to have two games doing the same plots with the same characters at the same time, especially when considering what
These aren't that big a difference as you make it seem. At the time, Mario's cast hadn't been solidified; making a new Mario with a new land, new powerups, and new villains was expected.
Nintendo hadn't fallen into the rut they are in now.
Mario 1 and 2 and Land were all different.
Zelda 1 and 2 were drastically different
Donkey Kong 1, Jr, and 3 were all very different from each other
None of you zoomers and even 30 year old boomers can understand what a BIG FRICKING DEAL a portable Mario was in 1989. Nobody thought it was “bootleg”. What a moronic proposition. It was pure magic, it felt like the future.
Imagine getting a Fortnite that’s implanted directly in your brain and you can play it anywhere. It was that kind of technological leap. At least for us kids.
You could bing bing wahoo on the go, in the bed, under the bed, in your parents' car while riding to Walmart or to your auntie in Florida. All day long, non-stop the batteries will die or your dad yelling at you and throwing your fricking vidya brick out of the window.
But seriously, imagine living in the era with no smartphones and having a hottest video game in your pocket to play anytime. Except nighttime.
I owned a GB and it was awesome, but not mindblowing.
>I'm 32 btw
In other words, you were born in 1990 after this game was already released. You have never lived in a world where there there were no handheld videogames, or the only handheld games were pretty lame. Even in 1990 there's a good chance you didn't have an expensive Game Boy and had to settle for some Tiger Electronics shit (Castlevania was still awesome compared to nothing). By the time you were old enough to read, the cheaper GBC had been released and there were plenty of used originals.
I grew up in [cr]Akron, so I was poor as a kid and by the time we got something it was really old. Funny thing is, I actually had no fricking idea, because the internet hadn't caught on and everyone else was behind too. I got a sega genesis in 1996. Got a Gameboy in 1998. Got a PS2 in 2003. The first thing I ever got that was fresh, was a gba sp.
Not op btw, just blogging at you because you can't stop me. I actually never knew about the mario land games as a kid. I only like them now thanks to the DX hacks. I can go back to 8 but, small screens, mono sound, etc... But i just can't fricking do black and white. I'm waiting for "for whom the frog tolls" to get a color gack so I can enjoy that one.
I'm 35 and I had that game.
I never got the appeal of GameBoy as a kid, since it looked shitty compared to the NES and SNES.
Later on when I actually played them, I fell in love. Super Mario Land is great.
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>I never got the appeal of GameBoy as a kid, since it looked shitty compared to the NES and SNES.
The appeal is that you don't have to be sitting in front of your living room to play it. Just anywhere next to a lamp. Portable gaming truly revolutionized the world
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Yeah, I didn't see the point. Why would anyone play a shitty version of Castlevania instead of Super Castlevania or Castlevania 3? This was me as a kid mind you.
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it wasn’t portable.
Why did they sell so many copies of Mortal Kombat for the Game Boy? It was shit. But everyone with a GB had a copy when it released.
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I dunno how to make it more clear:
I didn't get why anyone would play an inferior handheld mode just because it's handheld.
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good thing Nintendo didn’t think like you. Otherwise they wouldn’t w sold hindreds of millions of Game Boys in their every iteration and millions of Game Paks full of lower quality ports.
Some of the Gameboy adaptations looks like shit in magazine screenshots, but were very fun to play as a kid. Example is Samurai Showdown on the Gameboy and Super GB. It was fast paced and has all the characters and mini games and a lot of cut scenes dialog.
2 years ago
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Yes, good that Nintendo was smarter than a child.
2 years ago
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Try harder to understand maybe.
No one can force you to stop being moronic.
2 years ago
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You weren't there
2 years ago
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>Why did they sell so many copies of Mortal Kombat for the Game Boy? It was shit. But everyone with a GB had a copy when it released.
but you can play as Goro
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>Why would anyone play a shitty version of Castlevania instead of Super Castlevania
Anon, I ...
You could bing bing wahoo on the go, in the bed, under the bed, in your parents' car while riding to Walmart or to your auntie in Florida. All day long, non-stop the batteries will die or your dad yelling at you and throwing your fricking vidya brick out of the window.
But seriously, imagine living in the era with no smartphones and having a hottest video game in your pocket to play anytime. Except nighttime.
>what a BIG FRICKING DEAL a portable Mario was in 1989
This. My friend brought his Game Boy to school with SML and it was literally THE talk of the entire school for the whole day. Everyone was standing in line to play it, and groups of like 20 kids were huddled around just to watch whoever was playing it. To say it's a big fricking deal is really an understatement.
This. It's a fantastic game with amazing playability and fantastic music. It's such a fricking joy to play, and the simple difficulty makes it perfect to just pick the game up and smash through it every now and then.
>None of you zoomers and even 30 year old boomers can understand what a BIG FRICKING DEAL a portable Mario was in 1989. Nobody thought it was “bootleg”. What a moronic proposition. It was pure magic, it felt like the future.
Because it has about as much content as SMB1 in a post SMBUSA-SMW world, while also being slower & clunkier.
I'd say it has way more personality but not really taking into account all the normal mario shit like mushrooms & turtles would be weird as frick when they were new.
It was good for gameboy standards until SML2 existed.
True. I can't argue with that. And let's not forget the two shmup levels.
SMB was just Go Right: The Movie: The Game. And SMBLL/SMB2JP was Go Right: The Movie The Game 2: Turbo Championship Edition with New Fighters: Electric Bugaloo. IE more of the same. And yet, I honestly far prefer either of them to SML or SML2.
That said, have you seen the colourised patch made for SML recently-ish?
Well, that's a compliment, Mario bootlegs in the 90s were rad as frick.
But speaking about SML specifically, I always liked how it's sort of an /x/-themed Mario game. Ancient civilizations, deep sea, chinese zombies and aliens.
I like how Wario is credited as developer.
He's the one that will most likely scam people by selling them bootlegs and also mock his archrival with photoshopping his head to the various stuff.
>scam people
Well, I didn't feel scammed back in the 90s when I got that game.
It's a pretty great game that I wouldn't have been able to play if not for that mario bootleg, as the original game was only released in Japan. Some japanese games were available for famiclones, but I never saw Yanchamaru 3 anywhere, only Mario 14.
You could go further and just say that caring about "lore" in general is a permavirgin thing.
Doesn't make him any less Gankerirgin for using Ganker console war lingo.
Because it was one of the earliest games on very new hardware, which is why it's controls are so weird. It still has great music, level design and a lot of really memorable stage enemies. Or, describing it in a more simple way, it's a Mario game.
There was no established Mario canon. At this point in Japan, they had SMB1 and 2 but not 3, and 2 was basically 1 but harder. Mario was in Wrecking Crew. Mario Golfed. Mario hopped around in single screen arcade platformers. I think he might have been in F1 Race. Point being, Super Mario Land was not a massive departure from an established "Mario world", Mario was whatever it wanted to be. It was a sequel to Super Mario Bros. created by a team of people, many of whom had worked on other Mario-related projects like Wrecking Crew. Yeah, the control isn't the same and takes getting used to and the game is rather archaic at this point, but it's just disrespectful and ignorant to call it a bootleg. It was a genuine mainline Mario game, it just wasn't made by Miyamoto. After Super Mario Bros USA and Super Mario Bros 3 started to really solidify the image of "Mario, tall brother Luigi, Princess and Toad in the Mushroom Kingdom" as being 'what Mario was'. To the Japanese public at the time of this game's release, it was 'what Mario was'.
Yeah, what gives? I wish the Mario Mandate had been enforced right after Super Mario Bros. 1, so that every game would just be Super Mario Bros. 1 over and over again.
I never owned GB (had Lynx, GG and GT) but I knew a kid who got it around launch. As a kid, I thought SML was bad. I didn't know how to describe how it felt at the time, but yes: it absolutely felt like a bootleg. Like it wasn't a /real/ Mario game. Even SML2 didn't, but at least it was closer than the OG SML ever got.
I remember playing SML and thinking the stages looked and felt like side scrolling and autoscrolling (in the shmup levels) parts of Kid Icarus.
Honestly, I didn't like many GB games I tried, which is the reason I never got one. They all felt like cheap knock-offs of the real thing.
I got SML2 back in 1994 as one of my first GB games other than Tetris and Mortal Kombat II.
SML2 impressed me. It felt so robust, like a portable SMW, with the world map, the many secrets to find, the different worlds, creative levels, the novel powerups like the bunny hat. The MUSIC.
It was by far the most ambitious portable game I had played until that point.
Before that I got a Game Gear with Sonic Chaos and some disney games (the Sega ones), and I loved them too, but SML2 was just more than beating levels consecutively.
The boss battles were really engaging too, as I remember.
I remember thinking at the time that the bunny ears were a step down from the raccoon tail and cape and that the enemies seemed out of place for a Mario game, same as I felt about SML. That said, I still enjoyed SML2 and yes, the music is some of the best in any Mario game.
Super Mario Land and Super Mario 64 will always be the defining Mario games to me, as they were the ones I actually played as a kid. The NES/SNES games just feel like assets for old Newgrounds flash videos.
it’s not PUSHED
It’s all there was at the time!
when you say “more people” you just means kids born afterwards.
To us it was all there was at the time. Your nostalgia is false. Ours is true
using large sprites on a small screen was not an established design element yet
SML2 was the one where mario was larger? I can't remember
I know Wario was very large in his first game
It worked and it became the new standard
>Why does it feel like a bootleg?
Because all subsequent worldbuilding in SMB games largely ignored SML. That however isn't SML's fault and shouldn't be held against it.
>They do.
They really don't. Every 2D Mario is NSMB or Mario Maker. 3D Mario games are few and far between, and even then it's either a re-release of an existing game or Odyssey.
It's all the same cookie cutter, color-by-numbers, stay inside the lines trasg.
>why does it feel bootleg
Has some of if not the very best music in a Mario game. Also the stage variety and enemy designs are out of this world. Anyone who calls it a bootleg probably feels Yoshis Island is a master piece and the GOAT game of all time right next to bloated OoT.
Why would anyone care when Nintendo would just bootleg Mario into anything. What continuity is there between Donkey Kong, Mario Bros, Super Mario Bros and SMB2/DokiDokiPanic?
>What continuity is there between >Donkey Kong
Mario gets fired from construction because of his pet gorilla & his foreman was looking for an excuse >Mario Bros
Mario becomes a plumber, finds turtles and follows through the pipes >Super Mario Bros
Turtles are coming from bowser so the brothers help out bc they're good people >SMB2/DokiDokiPanic?
Mario has crazy dreams the next night
>Yoshi's Island series
Bros end up on earth for their safety or kamek banishing or stork incompetence >Mario's Bombs Away
Mario fights in a jungle war and came home with a gorilla >Wrecking Crew & Vs Wrecking Crew, Mario's Cement Factory
Bros' jobs before being fired >DK Hockey
Mario likes sports and plays hockey with DK >DK Circus
Mario torments DK for fun while on a date with Pauline at the circus, leading to DK1. >DK1 >DK Jr/DK II
Mario is forced to take DK Sr back to the jungle in a cage, but Jr finds and frees him. >DK3
DK Sr hates mankind and attempts to destroy a greenhouse of the jungle's fauna. Mario already flew back to Brooklyn so its up to Stanley. >DK Jr Math
DK Sr reunites with his wife (Wrinkly) who is a teacher as seen in DKC2. Jr is put in school. Pink Jr's identity is unclear but possibly Wrinkly Jr/Diddy Kong's mom since Diddy is DK's nephew (assuming DK Jr = Modern DK) >Mario Bros, Mario Bros Special, Punch Ball Mario Bros >Mario Bros (Game & Watch)
The Bros' second job when they're plumbers
113 replies and nobody has even pointed out that the first Mario Land wasn't even a Mario game originally, it was changed into one mid-development when Nintendo realized they didn't have a Mario game ready for Gameboy's launch.
113 replies and nobody has even pointed out that the first Mario Land wasn't even a Mario game originally, it was changed into one mid-development when Nintendo realized they didn't have a Mario game ready for Gameboy's launch.
The stiff controls. Super Mario Bros revolutionized 2D platformers and the freedom of movement was the best part of the game. Going back to crappy controls made it seem like a hack.
If you take into account that before Super Mario Land, all you had were the Game & Watch as far as portable Nintendo games, tell me again how SML is a hack job and not a little miracle in 1989.
It's different because it's made by R&D1 instead of EAD (the usual Mario devs).
None of it mattered. It was a portable NEW mario game and it was good. That was a big deal back then because all we knew was Mario games = the best games ever.
>It was a portable NEW mario game and it was good
very appropriate use of the past-tense there.
I don't usually think games can age, but this is definitely an exception. as a launch title for what was many people's first portable system, mario land was fine, but when compared to the rest of the series in retrospect I can totally agree with OPs assessment that it feels like a bootleg (even disregarding the obvious reasons why like the out of place enemies and locales). With the strange movement lacking in momentum and short length although that isn't inherently bad It just doesn't live up to the quality standard of any mario game before or since.
You can still enjoy it for what it is 100%, 30 minute little dot matrix adventure with vague mario elements, but you can't deny the limited hardware for the time held it back. No amount of BACK IN MY DAY posting can refute that mario land has become, in the modern day, a sort of oddity in the franchise.
TLDR; it's not 1989 anymore and people have started viewing things in retrospect
>TLDR; it's not 1989 anymore and people have started viewing things in retrospect
At least link us your 1 hour video essay in which you try to convince people that the game didn't age well and that we aren't allowed to enjoy it now. 'In retrospect' my ass
You are looking at it wrong. It is a portable game designed to be beaten in one sitting on the go. It is still just as fun as it was then if you were to play it as intended. Mario Land was NEVER considered mindblowing next level shit. It was considered excellent because it is a real game that is portable. Not some Tiger electronics pseudo-game.
Especially since there was no save system or passcode and the og brick game boy ate AA batteries like a motherfricker. Several times I was on the last world and that battery light would start to get dimmer.
I have to agree. I’m a millennial whose first console was a gameboy color. Even back then, I just couldn't tolerate super mario land. Just didn’t feel right.
Like I understand that it was made by a different team, but they were allowed to use Peach and Bowser and the fire flower, right? It feels like Daisy and the sphinx and the punch ball and everything else in this game were made to be cheap store brand knock-offs of Mario staples.
Did you even play the game homosexual? None of those things were in it.
What
Because your mind is poisoned by cookie cutter NSMB shit and you hate everything that deviates from that.
I remember hearing something how R&D1 more or less didn't like Mario and considered him to be bland, preferring to work on their own franchises. So annoyed were they, particularly with having to go back to the drawing board so their shit wasn't so weird by Mario standards, yes really, that when it came time to think up a villain for Mario Land 2, a frustrated artist drew a parody of Mario, and the team loved it so much they used that.
Why was Wario cross eyed? It’s weird.
parroted theory but there's virtually no evidence for it whatsoever, so it's probably isn't real
I remember reading that Wario was influenced by Stromboli from Pinocchio. Wonder if that holds any water
N-Sider made that up for clicks, and with no interview quotes or other sources to back up their statements. The real reason why Wario was created was because R&D1 wanted to shake up the Mario formula by having a story about Mario trying to win back something that was stolen from him, as opposed to the usual save-the-princess/kingdom plot, and they decided that the villain should be a Bluto-esque rival of Mario.
An official interview with the Super Mario Land 2 developers can be found here: https://shmuplations.com/supermarioland2/
Aw, and it was such a humorous origin, too. Still, thanks, anon.
These aren't that big a difference as you make it seem. At the time, Mario's cast hadn't been solidified; making a new Mario with a new land, new powerups, and new villains was expected.
This, and remember that all of the big nintendo franchises on gameboy looked different and weren't ports anyway. They were always meant to be additions to the franchise rather than the next sequel or port. Metroid II looked totally different than Metroid and had a different set p. Kid Icarus was different. Zelda looked closer to the console versions but had a different set of characters and setting.
FWIW I always thought the tiny SML sprite looked more like the Donkey Kong Mario sprite in terms of being really small.
Both it and SMB3 came out within six months of one another. Probably didn't want to have two games doing the same plots with the same characters at the same time, especially when considering what
said.
Imagine being the poor kid and getting SML for xmas then going back to school and hearing about all the cool shit in SMB3.
More like FML.
>imagine not having both
Both were good games. Did you know anyone who played smb3 on the bus or under the bed sheets? Not all of us had televisions in our bedrooms as kids.
>poor kid getting SML
Would be the highlight of his life.
Poor kids didn't get video games of their own, much less handheld games.
Nintendo hadn't fallen into the rut they are in now.
Mario 1 and 2 and Land were all different.
Zelda 1 and 2 were drastically different
Donkey Kong 1, Jr, and 3 were all very different from each other
Why was Princess Daisy dabbing on the cover?
None of you zoomers and even 30 year old boomers can understand what a BIG FRICKING DEAL a portable Mario was in 1989. Nobody thought it was “bootleg”. What a moronic proposition. It was pure magic, it felt like the future.
>what a BIG FRICKING DEAL a portable Mario was in 1989
Explain it to me.
Imagine getting a Fortnite that’s implanted directly in your brain and you can play it anywhere. It was that kind of technological leap. At least for us kids.
Sounds MISERABLE. I'm 32 btw.
I owned a GB and it was awesome, but not mindblowing.
>I'm 32 btw
In other words, you were born in 1990 after this game was already released. You have never lived in a world where there there were no handheld videogames, or the only handheld games were pretty lame. Even in 1990 there's a good chance you didn't have an expensive Game Boy and had to settle for some Tiger Electronics shit (Castlevania was still awesome compared to nothing). By the time you were old enough to read, the cheaper GBC had been released and there were plenty of used originals.
I grew up in [cr]Akron, so I was poor as a kid and by the time we got something it was really old. Funny thing is, I actually had no fricking idea, because the internet hadn't caught on and everyone else was behind too. I got a sega genesis in 1996. Got a Gameboy in 1998. Got a PS2 in 2003. The first thing I ever got that was fresh, was a gba sp.
Not op btw, just blogging at you because you can't stop me. I actually never knew about the mario land games as a kid. I only like them now thanks to the DX hacks. I can go back to 8 but, small screens, mono sound, etc... But i just can't fricking do black and white. I'm waiting for "for whom the frog tolls" to get a color gack so I can enjoy that one.
I had the Double Dragon and Castlevania 1 Tiger handhelds.
Can confirm they were fun for maybe 5 mins before realizing they were total shit.
I'm 35 and I had that game.
I never got the appeal of GameBoy as a kid, since it looked shitty compared to the NES and SNES.
Later on when I actually played them, I fell in love. Super Mario Land is great.
>I never got the appeal of GameBoy as a kid, since it looked shitty compared to the NES and SNES.
The appeal is that you don't have to be sitting in front of your living room to play it. Just anywhere next to a lamp. Portable gaming truly revolutionized the world
Yeah, I didn't see the point. Why would anyone play a shitty version of Castlevania instead of Super Castlevania or Castlevania 3? This was me as a kid mind you.
it wasn’t portable.
Why did they sell so many copies of Mortal Kombat for the Game Boy? It was shit. But everyone with a GB had a copy when it released.
I dunno how to make it more clear:
I didn't get why anyone would play an inferior handheld mode just because it's handheld.
good thing Nintendo didn’t think like you. Otherwise they wouldn’t w sold hindreds of millions of Game Boys in their every iteration and millions of Game Paks full of lower quality ports.
Some of the Gameboy adaptations looks like shit in magazine screenshots, but were very fun to play as a kid. Example is Samurai Showdown on the Gameboy and Super GB. It was fast paced and has all the characters and mini games and a lot of cut scenes dialog.
Yes, good that Nintendo was smarter than a child.
Try harder to understand maybe.
No one can force you to stop being moronic.
You weren't there
>Why did they sell so many copies of Mortal Kombat for the Game Boy? It was shit. But everyone with a GB had a copy when it released.
but you can play as Goro
>Why would anyone play a shitty version of Castlevania instead of Super Castlevania
Anon, I ...
>auster has a chatbot
figures
You could bing bing wahoo on the go, in the bed, under the bed, in your parents' car while riding to Walmart or to your auntie in Florida. All day long, non-stop the batteries will die or your dad yelling at you and throwing your fricking vidya brick out of the window.
But seriously, imagine living in the era with no smartphones and having a hottest video game in your pocket to play anytime. Except nighttime.
*until the batteries die
fix
No. Eat shit and die zoomie
lol poor boomie can't even articulate his own point. You don't need to die, you're already dead! Brain-dead, I mean.
I prefer the gameplay of SML over the NES games, besides SMB3. I got to the point I could finish without dying and collect every coin.
>what a BIG FRICKING DEAL a portable Mario was in 1989
This. My friend brought his Game Boy to school with SML and it was literally THE talk of the entire school for the whole day. Everyone was standing in line to play it, and groups of like 20 kids were huddled around just to watch whoever was playing it. To say it's a big fricking deal is really an understatement.
This. It's a fantastic game with amazing playability and fantastic music. It's such a fricking joy to play, and the simple difficulty makes it perfect to just pick the game up and smash through it every now and then.
>None of you zoomers and even 30 year old boomers can understand what a BIG FRICKING DEAL a portable Mario was in 1989. Nobody thought it was “bootleg”. What a moronic proposition. It was pure magic, it felt like the future.
yeah and by 1992 it was already a disappointment
By 1992 it didn't matter. Disappointment is definitely not the word to use when everyone has moved on and nobody cares anymore.
Because it has about as much content as SMB1 in a post SMBUSA-SMW world, while also being slower & clunkier.
I'd say it has way more personality but not really taking into account all the normal mario shit like mushrooms & turtles would be weird as frick when they were new.
It was good for gameboy standards until SML2 existed.
Less content, isn't it? IIRC, it only has four worlds as opposed to SMB's 8 (plus the hard mode).
In defense of SML1, it has more variety of enemies/level themes/bosses than SMB1.
True. I can't argue with that. And let's not forget the two shmup levels.
SMB was just Go Right: The Movie: The Game. And SMBLL/SMB2JP was Go Right: The Movie The Game 2: Turbo Championship Edition with New Fighters: Electric Bugaloo. IE more of the same. And yet, I honestly far prefer either of them to SML or SML2.
That said, have you seen the colourised patch made for SML recently-ish?
It only takes about 20 or so minutes to beat, so that's a plus.
Well, that's a compliment, Mario bootlegs in the 90s were rad as frick.
But speaking about SML specifically, I always liked how it's sort of an /x/-themed Mario game. Ancient civilizations, deep sea, chinese zombies and aliens.
>Mario bootlegs in the 90s were rad as frick.
You said it
I mean more like the numbered Mario bootlegs that were other games but with a Mario sprite or head hacked in.
I like how Wario is credited as developer.
He's the one that will most likely scam people by selling them bootlegs and also mock his archrival with photoshopping his head to the various stuff.
>scam people
Well, I didn't feel scammed back in the 90s when I got that game.
It's a pretty great game that I wouldn't have been able to play if not for that mario bootleg, as the original game was only released in Japan. Some japanese games were available for famiclones, but I never saw Yanchamaru 3 anywhere, only Mario 14.
>Here ya go kiddo, I got you Super Mario Bros.
somari and mario world on nes are legitimately two of the worst games ever, but yes, I agree
Hey guys, did you know this music video existed?
banger
As far as I'm concerned, Mario Land 1 and 2 ARE Mario, and the console games are weird bootlegs.
Is there anything more autistic than trying to draw a coherent lore on bing bing wahoo? What's the lore behind ? blocks?
yeah it's called using meaningless buzzwords on somewhere not called Wrong board
He's right though.
Caring about Mario lore is even more embarrassing than caring about Zelda lore.
You could go further and just say that caring about "lore" in general is a permavirgin thing.
Doesn't make him any less Gankerirgin for using Ganker console war lingo.
>You could go further
I didn't go further because I'm not a binary thinker who needs to apply slippery slopes to everything.
>console warrior ironically accusing someone of binary thinker
based
I'm not a console warrior though. That's entirely something going on your head.
i don't care about mario lore, but i also don't care for console war terms
>bing bing wahoo
hi, Ganker.
>autistic screeching
sure thing, Gankerirgin.
that is indeed what you're doing
why don't you do it on a bigger board instead of shitting up this one?
it says bowser turned toads into the ? blocks in one of the early mario game pamphlets/instruction packets that used to come with games. I think SMB 1
>Guys, elaborate on my opinion
Frick off
It's the art style. It looks goofy nowadays because Super Mario Land 2 looked way better and was on the same system.
Better than any 3d trash wahoo.
Because it was one of the earliest games on very new hardware, which is why it's controls are so weird. It still has great music, level design and a lot of really memorable stage enemies. Or, describing it in a more simple way, it's a Mario game.
I finish it recently, never played it before
Mario controls like compared to the NES ones
But it was really good, I liked the schmups levels too
There was no established Mario canon. At this point in Japan, they had SMB1 and 2 but not 3, and 2 was basically 1 but harder. Mario was in Wrecking Crew. Mario Golfed. Mario hopped around in single screen arcade platformers. I think he might have been in F1 Race. Point being, Super Mario Land was not a massive departure from an established "Mario world", Mario was whatever it wanted to be. It was a sequel to Super Mario Bros. created by a team of people, many of whom had worked on other Mario-related projects like Wrecking Crew. Yeah, the control isn't the same and takes getting used to and the game is rather archaic at this point, but it's just disrespectful and ignorant to call it a bootleg. It was a genuine mainline Mario game, it just wasn't made by Miyamoto. After Super Mario Bros USA and Super Mario Bros 3 started to really solidify the image of "Mario, tall brother Luigi, Princess and Toad in the Mushroom Kingdom" as being 'what Mario was'. To the Japanese public at the time of this game's release, it was 'what Mario was'.
SMB2 BTFO out of any concept of mario lore.
>Mario was whatever it wanted to be.
Just like Miyamoto wanted him: "Mr. Video."
Why does it feel like all your opinions come from an e-celeb?
Mine do
FRICK THIS THREAD SUPER MARIO COMPACT DISCO
Peach looking like a snack on that album cover
Yeah, what gives? I wish the Mario Mandate had been enforced right after Super Mario Bros. 1, so that every game would just be Super Mario Bros. 1 over and over again.
Because it was more or less a tech demo to see if the shit even worked on game boy, I appreciate it for the peculiarity that it is.
I never owned GB (had Lynx, GG and GT) but I knew a kid who got it around launch. As a kid, I thought SML was bad. I didn't know how to describe how it felt at the time, but yes: it absolutely felt like a bootleg. Like it wasn't a /real/ Mario game. Even SML2 didn't, but at least it was closer than the OG SML ever got.
I remember playing SML and thinking the stages looked and felt like side scrolling and autoscrolling (in the shmup levels) parts of Kid Icarus.
Honestly, I didn't like many GB games I tried, which is the reason I never got one. They all felt like cheap knock-offs of the real thing.
I got SML2 back in 1994 as one of my first GB games other than Tetris and Mortal Kombat II.
SML2 impressed me. It felt so robust, like a portable SMW, with the world map, the many secrets to find, the different worlds, creative levels, the novel powerups like the bunny hat. The MUSIC.
It was by far the most ambitious portable game I had played until that point.
Before that I got a Game Gear with Sonic Chaos and some disney games (the Sega ones), and I loved them too, but SML2 was just more than beating levels consecutively.
The boss battles were really engaging too, as I remember.
I remember thinking at the time that the bunny ears were a step down from the raccoon tail and cape and that the enemies seemed out of place for a Mario game, same as I felt about SML. That said, I still enjoyed SML2 and yes, the music is some of the best in any Mario game.
Super Mario Land and Super Mario 64 will always be the defining Mario games to me, as they were the ones I actually played as a kid. The NES/SNES games just feel like assets for old Newgrounds flash videos.
you have a really demented perspective.
Picrel is the what defines Super Mario Bros.
That's basically like how Green Hill is what's constantly pushed as Sonic nostalgia, even though most people have far more fond memories of 2 or 3&K.
it’s not PUSHED
It’s all there was at the time!
when you say “more people” you just means kids born afterwards.
To us it was all there was at the time. Your nostalgia is false. Ours is true
what the frick are you talking about anon? the same can be said of green hill zone, its from the first game. that said I agree with
defining mario even though its only the first game with the "super" label and we're just burying all the arcade/G&W construction themed games.
you need to eat pickle you moronic fsggot
Based post-core Yoomer, though sad that you missed out on having an older sibling letting you play SNES and Genesis (and GG and early GB) with them.
using large sprites on a small screen was not an established design element yet
SML2 was the one where mario was larger? I can't remember
I know Wario was very large in his first game
It worked and it became the new standard
>Why does it feel like a bootleg?
Because all subsequent worldbuilding in SMB games largely ignored SML. That however isn't SML's fault and shouldn't be held against it.
I miss when Nintendo made new games
They do. The NSMB series is just filler to hold people over until they finish the next 3D Mario.
Nobody cares about 3D Mario. It's like Sonic, only the 2D ones are good.
not even close
>They do.
They really don't. Every 2D Mario is NSMB or Mario Maker. 3D Mario games are few and far between, and even then it's either a re-release of an existing game or Odyssey.
It's all the same cookie cutter, color-by-numbers, stay inside the lines trasg.
>why does it feel bootleg
Has some of if not the very best music in a Mario game. Also the stage variety and enemy designs are out of this world. Anyone who calls it a bootleg probably feels Yoshis Island is a master piece and the GOAT game of all time right next to bloated OoT.
>bloated
stop trying to force this meme
Nintendo games are bloat. Smw boasts having 97 levels which was a lie and most of them you could fly over anyway.
Why would anyone care when Nintendo would just bootleg Mario into anything. What continuity is there between Donkey Kong, Mario Bros, Super Mario Bros and SMB2/DokiDokiPanic?
Getting jimmyrustled over it is just autism.
>What continuity is there between
>Donkey Kong
Mario gets fired from construction because of his pet gorilla & his foreman was looking for an excuse
>Mario Bros
Mario becomes a plumber, finds turtles and follows through the pipes
>Super Mario Bros
Turtles are coming from bowser so the brothers help out bc they're good people
>SMB2/DokiDokiPanic?
Mario has crazy dreams the next night
>SMB3
The Mario Brothers try their hands at acting and land a starring role
Wtf, surprinsingly good continuity
What about DKJR and DK3?
>Yoshi's Island series
Bros end up on earth for their safety or kamek banishing or stork incompetence
>Mario's Bombs Away
Mario fights in a jungle war and came home with a gorilla
>Wrecking Crew & Vs Wrecking Crew, Mario's Cement Factory
Bros' jobs before being fired
>DK Hockey
Mario likes sports and plays hockey with DK
>DK Circus
Mario torments DK for fun while on a date with Pauline at the circus, leading to DK1.
>DK1
>DK Jr/DK II
Mario is forced to take DK Sr back to the jungle in a cage, but Jr finds and frees him.
>DK3
DK Sr hates mankind and attempts to destroy a greenhouse of the jungle's fauna. Mario already flew back to Brooklyn so its up to Stanley.
>DK Jr Math
DK Sr reunites with his wife (Wrinkly) who is a teacher as seen in DKC2. Jr is put in school. Pink Jr's identity is unclear but possibly Wrinkly Jr/Diddy Kong's mom since Diddy is DK's nephew (assuming DK Jr = Modern DK)
>Mario Bros, Mario Bros Special, Punch Ball Mario Bros
>Mario Bros (Game & Watch)
The Bros' second job when they're plumbers
I could go on but might as well stick to pre-SMB1
113 replies and nobody has even pointed out that the first Mario Land wasn't even a Mario game originally, it was changed into one mid-development when Nintendo realized they didn't have a Mario game ready for Gameboy's launch.
What was it originally?
Super Mario Land.
is a bullshitter.
>What was it originally?
Donkey Donkey Anxiety Attack
You expect their first game on the gameboy to NOT feel like a bootleg anon?
If you were actually alive at the time, you would have known that it /wasn't/ the first game on GameBoy, kiddo.
He didn't say it was THE first game.
She literally did.
you literally cannot read. go get the flashcards out to practice and when you find out how to read, read that post again.
See
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The running and jumping feels off.
The stiff controls. Super Mario Bros revolutionized 2D platformers and the freedom of movement was the best part of the game. Going back to crappy controls made it seem like a hack.
If you take into account that before Super Mario Land, all you had were the Game & Watch as far as portable Nintendo games, tell me again how SML is a hack job and not a little miracle in 1989.