Does that mean they're getting the voice actors to revoice all the lines, or are they using the original audio and adding it to the new game like with the SotC remake?
>a FF7 or RE4 style proper remake
I hate how ever since FF7R came out there's been this retarded opinion that a game needs to wildly change shit in its remake or else it's not a "proper remake." Shut the fuck up.
Remaster = using the same game files, maybe upping the res and replacing some textures and adding some content
Remake = rebuilding the game from the ground up
Regardless of how similar it is to the original it's not a fucking remaster if they rebuilt the entire game by hand you retard. Do you think the Medievil remake on PS4 is a "remaster" of the original because it's got the same levels and gameplay?
Dunno what Medieval is, but something like REmake 1 is a remake that's as close as you can get to being a remaster while being a remake, and Halo 2 anniversary is as close as you can get to being a remake while being a remaster
This was never, ever a topic of discussion until FF7R came out. Remake and Remaster were used interchangeably but FFtards used the semantics of it as a coping mechanism for Square shitting directly into their mouths.
FF7 might have been a bad example for multiple reasons, but RE4 is a great remake. What I meant by "proper remake" is an actual remake, not just a visual remaster, which I'm almost certain this will be, and that's just lame because...
good, snake eater is almost perfect, the less they change, the better
The original is great and looks great even today. If they're keeping the original mechanics, voices, mission structure etc. and blatantly just adding LE SHARP TEXTURES, it'll end up looking jarring as fuck. A substantial remake could definitely be cool, but there's no need for a remastered MGS3.
This will be better than FFVII easily. Don't know about RE4. That's the standard to beat now. Capcom has a lot more talent on hand right now to me than whoever Konami has on their paycheck I think. At least until proven wrong.
REmake1 is 20 years old man, REmake4 is a perfectly good exanmple for a modern remake
FF7 might have been a bad example for multiple reasons, but RE4 is a great remake. What I meant by "proper remake" is an actual remake, not just a visual remaster, which I'm almost certain this will be, and that's just lame because...
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The original is great and looks great even today. If they're keeping the original mechanics, voices, mission structure etc. and blatantly just adding LE SHARP TEXTURES, it'll end up looking jarring as fuck. A substantial remake could definitely be cool, but there's no need for a remastered MGS3.
>there's no no need for a remastered MGS3
Wrong, the game is stuck on PS3. Proper ports of the HD remasters are needed unless youu pirate shit
besides, the plot and voices of MGS3 are perfect, there's no change that can be done to improve them.
Literally just add modern graphics, polish the survival mechanics, shooting and movement so they are easier instead of having me navigate 20 menus and thats it, what culd they even add? ruin it with an open world full of nothing? nah, the less they change, the better
This. The game was already perfect for what it was, when it came out and on what hardware it came out for. The reason we got zones and switching between them (which helped with the End fight), is because of it being released on PS2 hardware. So they made the whole game to fit the limitations of the hardware. The soul the game has is because it was tailor made for the hardware.
The game doesn't need anything besides modern graphics.
SOTC remaster is arguably worse than the original because of some stylistic changes. It's not a remake, and it's not a great remaster either. At least it made the game available on modern platforms, which is good.
You need to buy a copy of FF7R and SOTCR and take a toaster bath with each of them. The difference between garbage and an actual remake will become apparent
>Bluepoint only change visuals in SOTC and DeS >BAD! >Konami does the same for MGS3, literally coming forward and saying they will also have gameplay enhancements >GOOD!
Is it just because its multiplatform?
Don't lie, people shat on BP because of " muh soul" and the changes in art-direction for those remakes; i'm sure Snake Eater will get the same shit, but the people actually mad about the studio not adding new collossi, dungeos, missions, etc are a minority
terrible comparison chart. Demons' Souls is the same game underneath the paint with the same bugs, as is SotC. Remasters masquerading as remakes.
Very nice cherry picked pic, additionally ignoring the KH remaster collections, Diablo Resurrected (a remaster) and MGS HD.
try harder.
It's useless to try and explain that there is no room for argument on remakes vs remasters. Black isn't white, it never will be. If it's a new engine, new assets, new sounds, new everything, it's a fucking remake. Remasters REMASTER the original assets.
For DMC 1 at least, when Dante screams LIIIIIIIGHT there is a blur effect missing in the HD version and also the simbols you shooy during the space harrier fight against Mundus spin in the PS2 while on HD they don't. Minor stuffs but those are the ones i know for DMC1
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Anonymous
then they the fuck are you using a DMC3 picture?
atleast post Prince of persia HD trilogy there instead
what they did to PoP WW should be a crime
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I didn't make the pic
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Anonymous
Because DMC3 has fucked up textures and transparencies for EVERYTHING on top of missing effects. Which makes it worse than DMC1HD port. Thankfully there was some autist that re-imported the og PS2 textures and fixed the alphas.
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Anonymous
i hate blur but i can see what you mean
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Anonymous
ps2 good with transparent textures that's why silent hill hd fog looks like aids
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ps2 was still crt era, what the fuck do you expect
I'd much rather Metal Gear Kiwami over a demake, even if Kiwami itself is worse than Y1 it is still miles better at actually remaking the original narrative over something that just changes willy nilly whatever the fuck it feels like it
I bought it more for the Peace Walker remaster because like all PSP games ported to something that isn't PSP later, they played way better without being shackled to PSP controls
I just want Metal Gear Solid 3 with a not-fucked control scheme. I want the same game, I want it to look the same, sound the same, have the exact same level design and the exact same cutscenes and the exact same bosses, I just don't want to deal with fucking pressure sensitive face buttons for guns. That's all they have to do. Of course they'll probably do more, but I don't want more. I just want MGS3 with good controls.
>a FF7 or RE4 style proper remake
I hate how ever since FF7R came out there's been this retarded opinion that a game needs to wildly change shit in its remake or else it's not a "proper remake." Shut the fuck up.
Yeah I would call re4, re2 etc a proper remake , but not ff7r lol
and he sucks as a voice actor in general. manchildren need to let go of their childhood and admit that he's by far the worst part of every game he's in.
>and admit that he's by far the worst part of every game he's in
As bad as his performance was for the angry samurai guy, Bloodstained's visuals are a much worse problem.
Neither were an issue. Hayter was fine in the game and the complaints about the graphics are overblown. It's not a great looking game but it looks fine most of the time. Only a few areas look bad.
Solidus has the same voice in JP as part of the pretend mystery as to if he was Solid. Akio Otsuka voices every Snake but Liquid because he was raised in Britain.
>Hes a clone it doesnt make sense if they DONT have the same voice.
Being a clone doesn't mean you would have the exact same voice unless they were raised in the exact same environments
>Being a clone doesn't mean you would have the exact same voice
Same larynx, same hormones during puberty. All that could change is accent and abrasure through smoking and/or drinking habits.
>David Hayter voicing both Solid Snake and Big Boss was always a stupid idea anyway.
David is John's clone... for Liquid we just assume he's not a heavy smoker like his template and clone-brother.
no chance they're adding new dialogue, or re-recording. Hayter can barely do the MGS3 voice anymore anyway. Plus I can't see Suzetta Minet "coming back", she'd probably lose her anonymity
100% not happening if they'd do the same for JP, since SIGINT'S Japanese actor is dead. Old Hayter would sound terrible anyway since he's nearly twice as old as BiBo even is in MGS3.
The audio is probably 48khz DVD or CD quality. It doesn’t need re-recording. It’s way above people’s ability to hear a difference. They’d just make it worse, like they will probably make the models and animations worse…
>reuse same sound files >WOOOOW WTF THAT'S SO CHEAP FUCK KONAMI >don't reuse same sound files >WOOOOW WTF THEY RE-DID THE VOICE LINES THAT'S SO SOULLESS FUCK KONAMI
Audio was already pretty good by the 6th gen. They could probably just throw the old files into the new engine without it sounding dated, particularly for the voices.
They might go back to the master recordings though, which should be very high quality. Provided they still have them.
hopefully they just use the same audio from the original. I don't need to hear this aging old people try and put on the same voice they used 20 years ago
I still remember how there was this giant conspiracy theory about how him crying and being a giant bitch on twitter over MGSV was a ruse to hide the fact that he still voices the actual BB in the game, then it turned out that wasn't true and he was actually just being a giant bitch the whole time.
It was always hilarious to see other characters talk about how angry and SUCH A LUST FOR REVENGE Venom supposedly is when he's just there staring like a dork for 90% of the game
>big voice gets paid for second of voice >can only afford 4 minutes of it
This exact problem got multiplied tenfold in death stranding where EVERYONE is a celebrity, so 90% of the game backstory is thrown at you as walls of text on your basement
He gets paid a flat price for the entire production, IIRC. I remember people looking it up near release and even Hayter said they probably got him just because Hayter was costing too much when they could get a bigger name and better VA for a similar price.
>big voice gets paid for second of voice >can only afford 4 minutes of it
This exact problem got multiplied tenfold in death stranding where EVERYONE is a celebrity, so 90% of the game backstory is thrown at you as walls of text on your basement
He did voice plenty, most of it got cut after Kojima watched Mad Max Fury Road. Some of it's in the game files
Its too bad this wasn't true; would have been a nice feature but given how Konami was already rushing the game and didn't let Kojima finish it properly I can see how it didn't happen; no way they would want to pay for 2 English VAs. There was even the hypothesis that had Akio Otsuka's dad, Chikao Otsuka (an equally legendary VA) been able that both of them would have done something similar and it would have been a neat bit in the game.
konami didn't rush the game, they gave him 7 fucking years and a bigger budget than any of the other games, eight fucking times the budget of mgs1 or 2
i'm sick of these actual god damn lies so you can suck the cock of the biggest fucking failure retard in gaming
the dev note talked about modernized gameplay, I guess the level geometry will be 99% identical and just modernized movement and combat controls, maybe different enemy ai
the dev note talked about modernized gameplay, I guess the level geometry will be 99% identical and just modernized movement and combat controls, maybe different enemy ai
You gonna be able to crouch walk like in the 3ds version
This is them starting a new canon, similar to what Capcom did with RE remakes. Expect it to not be a 1:1 remake. Which frankly is better than a 1:1 remake, which is kind of pointless.
it isn't pointless because the game is 20 years old, and you know that normies wont touch a remastered PS2 game with upscaled textures, if Sony can remake Last Of Us every gen for a wuick bug, Konami can remake Snake Eater and milk the saga again
>level geometry will be 99% identical and just modernized movement and combat controls, maybe different enemy ai
This is what Twin Snakes did and it sucked ass.
Twin Snakes's issue is because the level design wasn't built with MGS2 mechanics in mind. Worth of difference comapred to this where we'll probably get couch walking and smoother controls.
The post process volume controls all hue in the image in UE and is default tinted toward white, nodev. There is no "blue" natural to the image at all in UE. Stop posting before you embarrass yourself further
Because it looks a lot like a port with updated textures, if they mess with the gameplay but keep the same layouts it runs the same risk as Twin Snakes did.
I've already played MGS3 and still think it looks and plays fine for what it is, if they're going to do this I'd prefer a RE4 remake style expansion on the concept.
> environments are the same down to the specific branches on a tree or the specific holes in a wall > Colors are roughly the same although slightly more mute in order to make the overall scenery blend in better > "It's bad"
What could possibly make you happy? What would you honestly have done differently? I'm not trying to jerk off the game, I've never played an MGS title but just based off of these comparisons, and the fact that the story and voice acting will stay exactly the same, I mean really what is there to complain about so far? Would turning up the saturation on some bricks fix it for you?
because RE4 remake actually bothered to take stuff from the original and tried to remix it into something new (with mixed results). that's too much work for a quick cash in by Konami.
RE4 remake was garbage, it turned the original into a shitty by-the-books TPS. Oh wow you can parry enemies now, you also move like you're covered in mold, have a dogshit reticle in most guns and the entire hit/reaction system from the OG is gone because anything above Normal is hyperarmor city. Keep that trash, remakes are garbage but if you're going to remake a game I'd rather you just give it a visual upgrade and keep everything the way it was, fuck ''reimagining'' things that were already done into something worse.
No it wasn't, at the time it was revolutionary and birthed tons of clones that missed the mark, and still do to this day. What did the remake bring to the table that was new or interesting, or even memorable? Knife parries with durability? Ammo crafting? A faux stealth system that is half-assed in there?
Zoomer. You just don't know how TPS games were in the 2000s and how they were before and after RE4
TPS games were better before RE4. I'll take Max Payne over RE4 or its imitators any day. And RE4 didn't innovate shit. Stealing the over-the-shoulder aiming camera from Splinter Cell isn't innovation.
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>Max Payne
LMAO dogshit fucking westcuck garbage. Go have a nice day.
No I wouldn’t, it’s obvious there’s a lot of room to expand the levels with modern tech
Imagine how amazing it would be if locations like Granin’s lab, the mountain base, and Grozni Grad were turned into Camp Omega tier levels
God I hope they slide just a little bit up the piss yellow filter before release, that blue hue just ain’t doing it for me, I want just a little bit more like the original
I mean what's wrong is obviously the color grading, that could be fixed with mods (and hopefully not just some blanket reshade shit). This really shows how photorealism just doesn't work for certain things, MGSV's generic visual tone is not nearly as as memorable as the colors in the previous games.
So what about the gameplay? In the age of total remakes and modernisations, I wonder how newfags will feel about what they would consider the clunky controls.
It's interesting because fags had been talking about a possible Snake Eater remake for years akin to Mgs5. I'm surprised they're not going that route, but I also figure they may not want to step on Kojima's toes.
This is based. If they really just give us MGS3 subsistence with the pachinko graphics and a handful of quality of life features, this is exactly what I want. They'll need to work around pressure sensitive controls but that's easily done. Rework the camouflage and it's perfect.
That brown hazy look is an important part of Snake Eater's aesthetic. It didn't look like the top picture in the original for no reason - it's like an old film or something. It's meant to look vintage.
Fucking idiots in charge of visuals these days I swear
I get that it's different hardware and engine, but I want the *exact* feel. It's okay if there's a tiny bit of deviation and not every tree or leaf being in the right place, but the canopy being open doesn't fit the dark feeling.
They just need to manage to capture the original feel in new graphics.
>Shitty graphical update "remakes" cashing in on fake rumors circulating for years and presented in the most "NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN" Style possible when their trailers drop
It's clear they've been probing a few english dominate sites for a while now.
I actually really enjoyed Sutherland as big boss, I would've loved if they got him to voice this game and then brought Hayter back to voice solid in the inevitable remake 1 and 2, but oh well, this is alright as well.
I sure hope the developer has the original raw sound files for Metal Gear Solid 3 because having Playstation 2 voicelines in a 2023 Playstation 5 game is going to be extremely janky and distracting.
Why can't these stupid gays just port the 360 collection, charge $20 for it and watch the cash flow in?
I'm so fucking tired of these gayass remasters and remakes. They all fucking suck ass bar none
As the single person that really liked Portable Ops I'd like that.
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Anonymous
It was my first hands on Metal Gear before I went back to 1 and 2 so I'd really would like to see that as long as it was reasonably priced.
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It was my first hands on Metal Gear before I went back to 1 and 2 so I'd really would like to see that as long as it was reasonably priced.
>Vol. 2 >Portable Ops HD >Portable Ops Plus HD >Metal Gear Ac!d HD
There is no Vol. 3
i started the stupid "PoOps" nickname way back when and i regret it because i really liked portable ops too. especially after kojima released that shitty tpp
They'll just remove the ipod and change it into some generic music player. Licensing stuff never has an effect on re-releases since they can just remove shit.
>The narrative for the past decade is that 4 is complete shit and irredeemable, can just be watched on youtube instead of being played >actually porting it would take an absurd amount of effort between relicensing shit or removing stuff like the ipod and macbook, clearing the live action scenes for reuse, getting a PSX emulator hooked in for the act 4 opener
I can see why they aren't doing it.
Waste all that time so people can just not buy the game because talk around 4 has soured to a point where it straight up would be a less profitable venture than a port collection of PSP games.
They'll just remove the ipod and change it into some generic music player. Licensing stuff never has an effect on re-releases since they can just remove shit.
>hur dur power of the cell impossibru to port
This meme needs to end, it's absolutely going to be ported. Take out some licensed things like the iPod etc (other games have done this) and they'll figure it out.
ok Einstein, if it's a dumb meme then explain why every other MGS game was ported several times to PX and other consoles, but 4 is still rotting on PS3? if it's just licenses why no one did it before?
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Anonymous
MGS2 and 3 were ported to the PS3 and the 360 which was the same console generation as MGS4, which PS3 had exclusivity.
Why would MGS4 be ported to the same generation? All mainline games are now being ported together.
ok Einstein, if it's a dumb meme then explain why every other MGS game was ported several times to PX and other consoles, but 4 is still rotting on PS3? if it's just licenses why no one did it before?
tell me then why it can be emulated without major problems, at 60fps, in pcs that are supposed to be worst to the last console of sony?
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will you tell me that a gtx 970 is better?
ps5 is not powerful enough to do it?
Can Konami get away with selling you a rom and PS3 emulator for current gen consoles and steam?
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Anonymous
no silly, I'm not saying that they sell you emulation
I'm saying that if a team that are not involved in the industry, and don't have millions to spend, could emulate the game in a few years, why not a company that has the money to do it, doesn't invest to port the game?
are you really saying that it is easier for them to remake a entire game instead of porting it??
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>POORLY CODED EMULATOR >BUGS AT 30FPS
you didn't see the video, did you?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No ports are better stop bein a retard.
No one wants to use your shitty emulator that fucks up with a resolution higher then 4:3
What video PSXe2 or what ever fuckin has so many glitches.
Stop bein mad emulation moron no one cares.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
no, you are the retard for not knowing what I'm talking about, and for not watching the video
and besides you are talking about a ps2 emulator that has nothing to do with ps3 emulation
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Anonymous
No your just bein a gay cause this port is gonna make what ever shitty emulator you shill for is gonna become obsolete.
How many time do I have to mention this? >During my first week as a Konami employee working on Metal Gear Solid 4, I’ll never forget seeing the profound disappointment on my colleagues’ faces when they began to dig deep into the first-run PlayStation 3 development kits. >Like the public at large, the Kojima Productions team believed Sony’s hyperbole about its incredible next-gen hardware; however, when it came down to actually pushing pixels through the PS3, everyone was underwhelmed. The team was warned ahead of time that the hardware would be difficult to develop for, but they had no idea how bad it would end up being.
>Despite how downtrodden my colleagues were with developing on PS3, most of them were still hardcore Sony fans and were not in favor of spending resources on such a test. They believed MGS 4 would look and run terribly on Microsoft’s older and inferior hardware. >One fateful day, the Konami R&D team hosted a meeting where we got to see the fruits of their labor—Metal Gear Solid 4 running beautifully and smoothly on an Xbox 360. As one of the few unabashed Xbox fans in the office, I was excited.
>The prevailing belief around the industry was that Sony must have secured an exclusive deal for the game. It wasn’t true. Had Kojima chosen to port the game to Xbox 360, his bosses would surely have approved the decision, but he wasn’t ready to make the jump.
MGS4 was confirmed to be running on 360, Vita and Metal Gear Arcade being on MGS4 engine with MGS4 assets on Windows.
>1:1 remake for cutscenes and level design but gameplay is a modernized AAA title
No way this shit turns out good, that shit is gonna have a knock-on effect where they go make changes in some places and it completely fucks up aspects that worked before but doesn't anymore, imagine what a joke most of the bosses would be in MGS3 with modern TPS controls, this is gonna be Twin Snakes 2: Electric Boogaloo
Oh fuck off. After the shit they pulled with FFVIIRE and RE4RE I will gladly take the same game again, but with updated visuals and slightly tweaked controls.
>So long as I don't see Snake doing matrix flips
but impossible ricochet shots and literal ghosts you don't mind? people draw the weirdest lines over what they think is silly in MGS
yes anon, it may soumd stupid to you but theres a limit to how much silly shit you can get away with on a story that takes itself seriously... Going overboard gives you shit like Fast and the Furious, and i know MGS is dumb af but I know it can also refrain to fall that low
So just to be clear,
guy doing a sick flip off an rpg: silly as fuck, ruins it
guy who can control electricity because of midichlorians pulls wires out of a tank and uses them like horse reins to control it: totally fine
I'd be ok with it if you were talking about the same dude, anon
But yes Snake should be more grounded and he shouldn't be able to do the same Crazy shit that a Freaking Cyborg Ninja, a Hind D attack chopper or the Super mutant electric russian commander can...
its like gameplay Dante and cutscene Dante, DMC doesn't take itself seriously. MGS for the most part does, they want you to get a message and see what Snake has to offer as the main character against impossible odds.
if you take the limits out, just make a curazeeeyh game like Rising, Bayonneta and etc. dont even bother telling me this is solid Snake or Big Boss anymore
Even Kojima shat on MG when they made Survive and had you traveling time, killing crystal zombies
See? Don't fucking worry about Konami adding anything unnecessary or incongruent to the game; that would require effort, and effort costs monnneeeyyy! They won't even pay to re-record anything, they will be re-using all the old voice lines!
I'm expecting >exact same motion capture data for cutscenes >barely any effort to improve lip sync >same exact animations during gameplay >re-used audio so they don't have to pay voice actors (konami has always treated their voice actors like complete shit)
This will be a graphics update with some quality of life improvements to UI and a seamless world without any screen transitions between areas.
why is everyone getting so mad? They are literally releasing the original game on PC and modern consoles later this year. Who gives a fuck about a remake?
Because Konami are scum. If they just didn't act short sighted profit driven they could have kept Kojima and made Silent Hills and MGS 6 that would have had real artistic integrity
>They are literally releasing the original game on PC and modern consoles later this year.
I haven't been keeping up with the news, is this serious? If so fucking good on Konami, 10/10 no notes. If I was the lord of gaming I'd make it mandatory for every remaster/remake to also re-release or come bundled with the original.
Are you asking if I was the lord of gaming or for what Konami is actually going to do? If the original MSX game came with PS1 MGS1 it could've set a nice standard for the industry.
When Konami is going to release the original, is that Metal gear?
If you'd be the lord of gaming and you'd release the original, would that be Metal Gear?
From my understanding Konami are going to release all 3 original Solid games, MGS1, 2 and 3.
I I was the lord of gaming and I was in charge of this remake, I'd force it to come bundled with the original, which I guess would also involve the very first Metal Gear game. If Konami moved faster they probably could've already done some MSX collection. There's some fun games on there.
I'll be surprised if it is closer to a remaster, aka same game, sharper textures. Maybe that just goes to show how solid, no pun intended, of a game it is but to skimp out on MGS while having Silent Hill 2 get a major overhaul just sounds stupid. I guess for SH2R they can just copy the RE remakes wholesale, no such luck for a game like MGS.
I'm only confused since I imagine it's more expensive to remake SH2, having to rework everything from the ground up, than to just give MGS3 a spit shine. Maybe I'm just overthinking it.
SH2 is a smaller game to begin with and its outsourced to blobber team, no way it's ore expensive than this. Plus even back them the gameplay mechanics of SH2 were dated , because it was a PS1 game rushing to PS2, theres a lot of room for improvement when compared to Snake Eater
Here is the big question: will it be easier/quicker to switch camos?
AND
Will the eating mechanic be less fucking arduous, especially starving fucking meryl at the end or whoever that chick was, eve. She fucking eats liked a starbed hound dog so fkimg annoying and she is slow.
I don't know to feel if it ends up being the exact same game. They're already porting the original MGS3 to current platforms, so why even bother with an even shinier remaster?
Anyone else not excited for this at all? I loved 3 when it came out but my patience has decreased. I can't stand cutscenes or long dialogue segments anymore. I'm currently playing through The Witcher 2 and i've skipped half the conversations. Jesus christ just tell me who or what to kill and fuck off.
>Ganker is unironically defending a remake that involves literally 0 original staff and exists only to making fucking Konami money
What happened to all the SH2R hate? You guys are just fucking slaves to nostalgia huh.
I wonder what they're intention is with this? I know how heavily autistic people on here are about changes, but there's no game from 20 years ago that wouldn't benefit from some modern design elements
>Remake MGS3 with modern graphics and controls so you don't have to use the crab claw grip >Keep the same story, same voices, everything
This is literally the best we could've hoped for
I unironically hate this modern zoomer contrarian position of, "looks fine to me, I'm going to enjoy it! Haha at having standards, frfr" that tries to muscle out any discussion that's fun to have. The majority aren't even saying it because they sincerely hold the opinion, they're just knee-jerk parroting it because they know it gets a response.
I unironically hate this dated Gen Xer contrarian position of, "looks soulless, I'm going to keep playing the 20 year old game! Haha at my odds of having sex, forever" that tries to muscle out any discussion that's fun to have. The majority aren't even saying it because they sincerely hold the opinion, they're just knee-jerk parroting it because they know it gets a response.
the last mainstream western release I bought was halflife alyx, before that witcher 3 9 years ago. I bought 2make and 4make because capcom is the lone company still occasionally making decent action horror. I have standards but if there's a game that's basically singular in the industry that comes out and interests me I'm not abstain out of a moral crusade.
There go all your theories about ESG Solid: DEI Eater. It's going to be faithful. At worst, the sex appeal will be toned down. They aren't adding black and trans characters to appease Blackrock.
If this was an actual remake they wouldn't have sandwiched it between two mobile games in a shitty sony direct. It's a HIRE THIS MAN Unreal project with the original voice acting
well Re4RE ruined the perfect gameplay the original game had in order to make the game harder
i doubt they will do the same with mgs3
they might add the QoL improvements from MGSV into it like croutch walking, TPS shooting and the better CQC system
maybe . MAYBE the quick dive
amazes me how many goyslop consumers reacted to this trailer. >no "A Hideo Kojima Production" > a less than 2 minute teaser. while kojima goes big and hard on reveals.
This probably not being too big-budget of a project actually gives me a bit more confidence. I don't want an FF7R style "remake". How would you even do that anyway for a series that already makes a big point of subverting plot and gameplay expectations? Make everything actually go smoothly and go the way that a newcomer might first expect?
It was necessary because MGS1 was so early in game voice acting that most of the English cast was under a stage name in case it somehow broke their guild rules so it was recorded in a apartment building meant you could hear traffic on newer sound cards.
Now the question is if Jodi Benson can be credited properly this time.
probably not because the description of the games already mentions the game is going to have some minor edits from the original releases so most likely thats referring to the stockfootage
I don't want it to be the exact same but with better graphics. I've already played MGS3 to death, remixing the scenario with more open areas to stealth, more animals, changing up the boss fights, that'd be best. Graphical uplift plus better controls is boring.
Okay I'm triggered. Halo 2A was fucking ASS, it literally looked worse than CE anniversary which was a 360 game! 1A stayed pretty true to the original, 2A ruined almost every single color palette and setting. Not to mention the god awful redone music and sound effects. 343's only good achievement was Halo 1 Anniversary and some parts of 4.
"Sutherbrothers" aren't Metal Gear fans, it was a shit performance. Not to say he can't do it, Jack Bauer was great, but holy shit he was boring in this one. His fault or the direction? Who knows. Regardless it was a missed opportunity for Sutherland to be V and Hayter to be Ishamel.
>no true scottsman
He didn’t even talk that much. He was fine regardless though. He sounded like a more realistic snake, the voice was still very gruff.
https://www.metagearsolid.org/reports_mgs4_kojimaVSmgs4.html >Speaking about why he decided to head the latest MGS game, Kojima revealed that he received a number of death threats (not from CVG) after announcing that he would be less involved in the project. "The staff heard about this and got very nervous," said Kojima. "We talk today as if it was a joke, but at the time, it was not a joke at all. It was serious."
>make a series where one of the themes is soldiers laying down their arms and choosing peace despite the implied consequences - that there’s always a choice >I had no choice to work on 4 guys
Ironic
Why not do a full on remake of the original Metal Gear that was on NES ( I know the real version was on something else forgot what it was some Jap shit)
>Ganker spends most of the 2010s lamenting about how shitty yellow and green and blue filters are >remake comes out that removes filters to give an old game more natural colors >"actually filters are based and soulful and I always loved them up my ass"
You guys did the same shit with RE4R because it removed QTEs which you could not get one single person on here to defend before that remake came out.
Does that mean they're getting the voice actors to revoice all the lines, or are they using the original audio and adding it to the new game like with the SotC remake?
It's obviously not going to be a FF7 or RE4 style proper remake. It's a glorified HD remaster.
good, snake eater is almost perfect, the less they change, the better
just play the original, you moron monkey
i'll play both, cucksucker! thanks
>a FF7 or RE4 style proper remake
I hate how ever since FF7R came out there's been this retarded opinion that a game needs to wildly change shit in its remake or else it's not a "proper remake." Shut the fuck up.
Remake != remaster
Remaster = using the same game files, maybe upping the res and replacing some textures and adding some content
Remake = rebuilding the game from the ground up
Regardless of how similar it is to the original it's not a fucking remaster if they rebuilt the entire game by hand you retard. Do you think the Medievil remake on PS4 is a "remaster" of the original because it's got the same levels and gameplay?
Dunno what Medieval is, but something like REmake 1 is a remake that's as close as you can get to being a remaster while being a remake, and Halo 2 anniversary is as close as you can get to being a remake while being a remaster
This was never, ever a topic of discussion until FF7R came out. Remake and Remaster were used interchangeably but FFtards used the semantics of it as a coping mechanism for Square shitting directly into their mouths.
FF7 might have been a bad example for multiple reasons, but RE4 is a great remake. What I meant by "proper remake" is an actual remake, not just a visual remaster, which I'm almost certain this will be, and that's just lame because...
The original is great and looks great even today. If they're keeping the original mechanics, voices, mission structure etc. and blatantly just adding LE SHARP TEXTURES, it'll end up looking jarring as fuck. A substantial remake could definitely be cool, but there's no need for a remastered MGS3.
reskin remakes are worthless
But FF7R is a continuation/sequel of the compilation with time travel and multiverse crap or whatever, the actual remake is the Ever Crisis movie one
This will be better than FFVII easily. Don't know about RE4. That's the standard to beat now. Capcom has a lot more talent on hand right now to me than whoever Konami has on their paycheck I think. At least until proven wrong.
Perfect
>calling re4 and ff7 proper remakes
>not re1
i fucking hate subhuman zoomers
REmake1 is 20 years old man, REmake4 is a perfectly good exanmple for a modern remake
>there's no no need for a remastered MGS3
Wrong, the game is stuck on PS3. Proper ports of the HD remasters are needed unless youu pirate shit
besides, the plot and voices of MGS3 are perfect, there's no change that can be done to improve them.
Literally just add modern graphics, polish the survival mechanics, shooting and movement so they are easier instead of having me navigate 20 menus and thats it, what culd they even add? ruin it with an open world full of nothing? nah, the less they change, the better
>the less they change, the better
This. The game was already perfect for what it was, when it came out and on what hardware it came out for. The reason we got zones and switching between them (which helped with the End fight), is because of it being released on PS2 hardware. So they made the whole game to fit the limitations of the hardware. The soul the game has is because it was tailor made for the hardware.
The game doesn't need anything besides modern graphics.
Yes, RE:make is also a good remake.
SOTC remaster is arguably worse than the original because of some stylistic changes. It's not a remake, and it's not a great remaster either. At least it made the game available on modern platforms, which is good.
I hope so.
>It's a glorified HD remaster.
That's what a remake is. FF7 "remake" is a reimagining.
And you're a retard
he's right about ff7 though. if you think it's a remake, then you are the retard here, m8.
You need to buy a copy of FF7R and SOTCR and take a toaster bath with each of them. The difference between garbage and an actual remake will become apparent
>Bluepoint only change visuals in SOTC and DeS
>BAD!
>Konami does the same for MGS3, literally coming forward and saying they will also have gameplay enhancements
>GOOD!
Is it just because its multiplatform?
Don't lie, people shat on BP because of " muh soul" and the changes in art-direction for those remakes; i'm sure Snake Eater will get the same shit, but the people actually mad about the studio not adding new collossi, dungeos, missions, etc are a minority
No one is complaining about removing the green haze effect for the jungle, which actually was used to set the scene
Something like shadow of the colossus?
Thank. God.
The audio will sound like shit unless they have the master recordings
are you forgetting the ps3/360 collection exists? It sounds perfect.
>It's a glorified HD remaster.
Ah fuck.
what game is top right
Mafia, I think
Last of Us or Mafia?
Mafia Definitive Edition, a full Remake made from the ground up
terrible comparison chart. Demons' Souls is the same game underneath the paint with the same bugs, as is SotC. Remasters masquerading as remakes.
Very nice cherry picked pic, additionally ignoring the KH remaster collections, Diablo Resurrected (a remaster) and MGS HD.
try harder.
>Demons' Souls is the same game underneath the paint with the same bugs
It's useless to try and explain that there is no room for argument on remakes vs remasters. Black isn't white, it never will be. If it's a new engine, new assets, new sounds, new everything, it's a fucking remake. Remasters REMASTER the original assets.
>shitting on the DMC HD collection
shit taste
It has missing effects
what effects?
For DMC 1 at least, when Dante screams LIIIIIIIGHT there is a blur effect missing in the HD version and also the simbols you shooy during the space harrier fight against Mundus spin in the PS2 while on HD they don't. Minor stuffs but those are the ones i know for DMC1
then they the fuck are you using a DMC3 picture?
atleast post Prince of persia HD trilogy there instead
what they did to PoP WW should be a crime
I didn't make the pic
Because DMC3 has fucked up textures and transparencies for EVERYTHING on top of missing effects. Which makes it worse than DMC1HD port. Thankfully there was some autist that re-imported the og PS2 textures and fixed the alphas.
i hate blur but i can see what you mean
ps2 good with transparent textures that's why silent hill hd fog looks like aids
ps2 was still crt era, what the fuck do you expect
I think it’s going to be exactly like that actually.
I'd much rather Metal Gear Kiwami over a demake, even if Kiwami itself is worse than Y1 it is still miles better at actually remaking the original narrative over something that just changes willy nilly whatever the fuck it feels like it
But they already did that on PS3, remember?
And it was of the success.
I bought it more for the Peace Walker remaster because like all PSP games ported to something that isn't PSP later, they played way better without being shackled to PSP controls
fuck yeah that would be awesome. you're a fag for implying RE4RE and FF7 remake are better
I'd be happy with this, MGS3 still plays well. Either way the original is getting a PC port now
>FF7
>Proper remake
that shit is a pseudo sequel with nomura bullshit that got marketed as a remake.
I just want Metal Gear Solid 3 with a not-fucked control scheme. I want the same game, I want it to look the same, sound the same, have the exact same level design and the exact same cutscenes and the exact same bosses, I just don't want to deal with fucking pressure sensitive face buttons for guns. That's all they have to do. Of course they'll probably do more, but I don't want more. I just want MGS3 with good controls.
>I just don't want to deal with fucking pressure sensitive face buttons for guns
That is called the XBOX 360 version
then get master collection vol1
With pre rendered cutscenes like Halo 2
God I hope you're right
literally these "remakes" change the story and the gameplay too much and seem more like remakes than remakes
thank god
>It's a glorified HD remaster.
the HD collection was a glorified HD remaster and it was perfection.
>glorified HD remaster
That's just a normal HD remaster
So like Metroid Prime, with better graphics and the same everything else?
So why not release the HD collection?
So you didn't check the catalogue or the thread itself before posting? No wonder this board fucking sucks
>the Ganker has fallen
get raped
Read moron, read
They’re doing that too actually.
>It's a glorified HD remaster.
And that's a good thing.
Oh thank God, there is hope in the world.
>it's obviously going to be a good remake
based
>Remaster
Metroid Prime HD
>Remake
Resident Evil 4 Remake
>Reimagining
Final Fantasy 7 Remake
I did it, bros.
>Retarded
>Final Fantasy 7 Remake
fixed it lol
Yeah I would call re4, re2 etc a proper remake , but not ff7r lol
"Obviously"
You pretentious asshole. I don't care if it is or isn't, but your fucking attitude is disgusting
I wouldn't mind if they recasted Snake, David Hayter voicing both Solid Snake and Big Boss was always a stupid idea anyway.
and he sucks as a voice actor in general. manchildren need to let go of their childhood and admit that he's by far the worst part of every game he's in.
>and admit that he's by far the worst part of every game he's in
As bad as his performance was for the angry samurai guy, Bloodstained's visuals are a much worse problem.
Neither were an issue. Hayter was fine in the game and the complaints about the graphics are overblown. It's not a great looking game but it looks fine most of the time. Only a few areas look bad.
Not one Snake Eater, he should have a different voice on PO, PW and V tho. Hell on MGSV, both BB and Venom needed different voices too
wrong
Hes a clone it doesnt make sense if they DONT have the same voice.
Then how come Liquid and Solidus weren't voiced by him too?
That doesnt make sense. Solidus having a subtle english accent as the US president makes 0 sense also.
>solidus english accent
wtf are you talking about stupid secondary
Solidus has the same voice in JP as part of the pretend mystery as to if he was Solid. Akio Otsuka voices every Snake but Liquid because he was raised in Britain.
Then why liquid sounds different? I haven't played MGS5, if that matters.
Also in 4 they say solid and liquid are imperfect clones
>Hes a clone it doesnt make sense if they DONT have the same voice.
Being a clone doesn't mean you would have the exact same voice unless they were raised in the exact same environments
That only means Liquid will sound different.
Solid and Big Boss are both Americans so should sound the same.
Fucking imagine one of them with a canadian accent. It would be hilarious.
>Being a clone doesn't mean you would have the exact same voice
Same larynx, same hormones during puberty. All that could change is accent and abrasure through smoking and/or drinking habits.
too bad john cygan's dead. hayter is the only option in that case
Richard Doyle was a good alternative for David Hayter imo
>David Hayter voicing both Solid Snake and Big Boss was always a stupid idea anyway.
David is John's clone... for Liquid we just assume he's not a heavy smoker like his template and clone-brother.
no chance they're adding new dialogue, or re-recording. Hayter can barely do the MGS3 voice anymore anyway. Plus I can't see Suzetta Minet "coming back", she'd probably lose her anonymity
100% not happening if they'd do the same for JP, since SIGINT'S Japanese actor is dead. Old Hayter would sound terrible anyway since he's nearly twice as old as BiBo even is in MGS3.
😉
For me, I want them to record an entirely different script but they only reuse the Ocelot "Meow" sound as the same thing from the original.
IA Voices
its gonna sound like those videos of trump ranking games with obama and biden
The audio is probably 48khz DVD or CD quality. It doesn’t need re-recording. It’s way above people’s ability to hear a difference. They’d just make it worse, like they will probably make the models and animations worse…
Who knows, perhaps they archived the original recordings properly from a soundbooth?
do they mean they're using exactly the same sound files?
Maybe they were smart enough to keep the raw recordings for once.
Or maybe they will use AI lmao
Jim Ward retired, so unless they are lying and will recast Granin, its just reusing the old voice work
Yes, they mean Konami are cheap so they're just going to reuse all the pachinko and original game assets they can
Konami being Konami
>reuse same sound files
>WOOOOW WTF THAT'S SO CHEAP FUCK KONAMI
>don't reuse same sound files
>WOOOOW WTF THEY RE-DID THE VOICE LINES THAT'S SO SOULLESS FUCK KONAMI
Get actor back
>WHY DOES SNAKE SOUND LIKE HES 70?
Replace actor
>FUCKONAMI HAYTER IS SNAKEEEE
This. If they changed the VA's they'd be outraged and screeching soulless, there's simply no winning with these plebs.
if that's true then that early 2000's voice acting is going to severely clash with the modern grimdark "realistic" look they're going for.
These companies never have any vision. They just do what they are told.
same sound files but "remastered" for better quality
Star Fox 64 3D redid all the lines with the original actors (except Peppy) and it sounded worse
So yes dont bother re-recording the lines cause theyll just sound bad
Audio was already pretty good by the 6th gen. They could probably just throw the old files into the new engine without it sounding dated, particularly for the voices.
They might go back to the master recordings though, which should be very high quality. Provided they still have them.
Do voice actors get paid for recycled voices?
no, konami owns their recorded voices.
hopefully they just use the same audio from the original. I don't need to hear this aging old people try and put on the same voice they used 20 years ago
Great, now we don’t have to hear David Hayter cry with fans for months on end about how he was betrayed.
I still remember how there was this giant conspiracy theory about how him crying and being a giant bitch on twitter over MGSV was a ruse to hide the fact that he still voices the actual BB in the game, then it turned out that wasn't true and he was actually just being a giant bitch the whole time.
who the fuck cares anymore? BB was practically mute on V anyway
>get big hollywood actor to voice your main character
>use him less than 4 minutes
What was Kojima thinking?
It was always hilarious to see other characters talk about how angry and SUCH A LUST FOR REVENGE Venom supposedly is when he's just there staring like a dork for 90% of the game
>SUCH A LUST FOR REVENGE
WHOOOOOOO!?
>big voice gets paid for second of voice
>can only afford 4 minutes of it
This exact problem got multiplied tenfold in death stranding where EVERYONE is a celebrity, so 90% of the game backstory is thrown at you as walls of text on your basement
He gets paid a flat price for the entire production, IIRC. I remember people looking it up near release and even Hayter said they probably got him just because Hayter was costing too much when they could get a bigger name and better VA for a similar price.
He did voice plenty, most of it got cut after Kojima watched Mad Max Fury Road. Some of it's in the game files
cuh
He talked just enough.
>then it turned out that wasn't true and he was actually just being a giant bitch the whole time.
Yeah it was really pathetic.
Its too bad this wasn't true; would have been a nice feature but given how Konami was already rushing the game and didn't let Kojima finish it properly I can see how it didn't happen; no way they would want to pay for 2 English VAs. There was even the hypothesis that had Akio Otsuka's dad, Chikao Otsuka (an equally legendary VA) been able that both of them would have done something similar and it would have been a neat bit in the game.
konami didn't rush the game, they gave him 7 fucking years and a bigger budget than any of the other games, eight fucking times the budget of mgs1 or 2
i'm sick of these actual god damn lies so you can suck the cock of the biggest fucking failure retard in gaming
who gives a shit
Wasn't there a trailer? Wouldn't an MGS trailer have voices?
I'm 100% positive this is just a graphics reskin. Same cutscene animations like Yakuza Kiwami.
If they do this and let us keep the weapons it will be perfect
Wouldn't have a problem with this though I wager there is going to be gameplay changes.
the dev note talked about modernized gameplay, I guess the level geometry will be 99% identical and just modernized movement and combat controls, maybe different enemy ai
I bet you a 100% the gameplay updates is just a quick menu or something to make the camo changing less retarded
You gonna be able to crouch walk like in the 3ds version
Im expecting a semi open world game.
You are extremely mistaken, unless you're imagining fewer loading zones.
It's 2023 and SSDs exist. It's not unbelievable that they'd make the game somewhat open world
This is them starting a new canon, similar to what Capcom did with RE remakes. Expect it to not be a 1:1 remake. Which frankly is better than a 1:1 remake, which is kind of pointless.
it isn't pointless because the game is 20 years old, and you know that normies wont touch a remastered PS2 game with upscaled textures, if Sony can remake Last Of Us every gen for a wuick bug, Konami can remake Snake Eater and milk the saga again
fuck no, dont ruin MGS3 with open world shit
>level geometry will be 99% identical and just modernized movement and combat controls, maybe different enemy ai
This is what Twin Snakes did and it sucked ass.
Twin Snakes's issue is because the level design wasn't built with MGS2 mechanics in mind. Worth of difference comapred to this where we'll probably get couch walking and smoother controls.
>same game with shittier colors
take my money!!!1!
Also 4k instead of 360p
>vastly superior graphics
>NOOOOOOOO IT'S NOT HECKIN GREEN ENOUGH!!!!!!
SOUL / SOULLESS
>visual style gone to shit
sasuga
its realistic you retard
what do you think the original was doing?
>UE blue filter
I hate it.
Why do you nodevs always race to say the stupidest shit imaginable?
It's the Unreal Engine and everything's blue. Sorry that your Unity game about depression failed, madam, you'll get 'em next time.
The post process volume controls all hue in the image in UE and is default tinted toward white, nodev. There is no "blue" natural to the image at all in UE. Stop posting before you embarrass yourself further
Don't forgot to prepare for the Steam Nextfest next month! Maybe you can even shill your game in the threads here!
Anon just take the L and move on
This is so fucking depressing.
Because it looks better than the original?
Because it looks a lot like a port with updated textures, if they mess with the gameplay but keep the same layouts it runs the same risk as Twin Snakes did.
I've already played MGS3 and still think it looks and plays fine for what it is, if they're going to do this I'd prefer a RE4 remake style expansion on the concept.
Twin Snakes is largely hated by fans because of how the storycutscenes play out compared to original, not because of changed gameplay mechanics.
I like Twin Snakes, I do a tuxedo run every christmas
If that depresses you then it's amazing you haven't killed yourself yet
It's made by Development Team aka from Konami. You won't get added features or new AI behavior from a game dev under a pachinko corporation
Kojima also did the heavy lifting of selling you the features of his new game, even if they were straight up lies
> environments are the same down to the specific branches on a tree or the specific holes in a wall
> Colors are roughly the same although slightly more mute in order to make the overall scenery blend in better
> "It's bad"
What could possibly make you happy? What would you honestly have done differently? I'm not trying to jerk off the game, I've never played an MGS title but just based off of these comparisons, and the fact that the story and voice acting will stay exactly the same, I mean really what is there to complain about so far? Would turning up the saturation on some bricks fix it for you?
i only want the menu fuckery removed, no pressure senstive controls and no loading screens, keep everything else the same.
After what RE4 did, this is fucking boring.
because RE4 remake actually bothered to take stuff from the original and tried to remix it into something new (with mixed results). that's too much work for a quick cash in by Konami.
RE4 is a downgrade. I'd prefer to not have an extra second of input lag and drunken idiot stumbling around animations.
Based retards
RE4 demake is trash
RE4 remake was garbage, it turned the original into a shitty by-the-books TPS. Oh wow you can parry enemies now, you also move like you're covered in mold, have a dogshit reticle in most guns and the entire hit/reaction system from the OG is gone because anything above Normal is hyperarmor city. Keep that trash, remakes are garbage but if you're going to remake a game I'd rather you just give it a visual upgrade and keep everything the way it was, fuck ''reimagining'' things that were already done into something worse.
LMAO the original was already a shitty by the books TPS
No it wasn't, at the time it was revolutionary and birthed tons of clones that missed the mark, and still do to this day. What did the remake bring to the table that was new or interesting, or even memorable? Knife parries with durability? Ammo crafting? A faux stealth system that is half-assed in there?
TPS games were better before RE4. I'll take Max Payne over RE4 or its imitators any day. And RE4 didn't innovate shit. Stealing the over-the-shoulder aiming camera from Splinter Cell isn't innovation.
>Max Payne
LMAO dogshit fucking westcuck garbage. Go have a nice day.
Zoomer. You just don't know how TPS games were in the 2000s and how they were before and after RE4
Cope, tasteless boomboom
Remaster =/= Remake
Learn the fucking difference already you morons
It’s disappointing if the level design really will be identical
They’re not charging full price for this, are they?
If they changed it you would be complaining about it being different
No I wouldn’t, it’s obvious there’s a lot of room to expand the levels with modern tech
Imagine how amazing it would be if locations like Granin’s lab, the mountain base, and Grozni Grad were turned into Camp Omega tier levels
God I hope they slide just a little bit up the piss yellow filter before release, that blue hue just ain’t doing it for me, I want just a little bit more like the original
>the bricks were already broken before they poured the mortar in
These "artists" need to spent a week or two bricklaying.
This is just... sad.
I mean what's wrong is obviously the color grading, that could be fixed with mods (and hopefully not just some blanket reshade shit). This really shows how photorealism just doesn't work for certain things, MGSV's generic visual tone is not nearly as as memorable as the colors in the previous games.
Would be a shame if it's 1:1. The survival mechanics would benefit greatly from more space the player needs to traverse between objectives
So what about the gameplay? In the age of total remakes and modernisations, I wonder how newfags will feel about what they would consider the clunky controls.
It's interesting because fags had been talking about a possible Snake Eater remake for years akin to Mgs5. I'm surprised they're not going that route, but I also figure they may not want to step on Kojima's toes.
>The game is the same but with better visuals
You know what? I'll take it.
This is based. If they really just give us MGS3 subsistence with the pachinko graphics and a handful of quality of life features, this is exactly what I want. They'll need to work around pressure sensitive controls but that's easily done. Rework the camouflage and it's perfect.
>They'll need to work around pressure sensitive controls but that's easily done.
they already did with the 360 port
so the game is just going to use the same exact structure but just make things look pretty.
im guessing they are doing that to play it safe.
That brown hazy look is an important part of Snake Eater's aesthetic. It didn't look like the top picture in the original for no reason - it's like an old film or something. It's meant to look vintage.
Fucking idiots in charge of visuals these days I swear
soul vs soulless
unironically
lmfao came here to say this, I hated people who said that shit about REmake 4 (cause the OG was drab as fuck) but now it's true.
>Bad use of camera
Yes this is bad.
Kojima invented the camera afterall
>That second pic
I get that it's different hardware and engine, but I want the *exact* feel. It's okay if there's a tiny bit of deviation and not every tree or leaf being in the right place, but the canopy being open doesn't fit the dark feeling.
They just need to manage to capture the original feel in new graphics.
>I get that it's different hardware and engine, but I want the *exact* feel
Then play the original.
>I want the *exact* feel, but with modern graphics so the experience is better
I fixed it.
>all that bloom
Konami hire me.
unironically looks better. I never liked the blandness of the pachinko cutscenes either
guarantee day 1 there will be a mod to add this piss filter back
you won't even need a mod, this will take like 3 clicks in reshade
Contrast comparison, thoughts?
It seems alright, but the environment seems less readable than the original
Hope we're getting dual audio. I can't stand Hayter after 2.
So how desperate is Konami now that they're actually crawling back to Kojima's babies for milking?
a lot, see how they announced a dozen SH games? the pachinko shit wont pay the bills anymore
They closed their pachinko division years ago dude.
That doesn't refute my point at all bro
Konami just had one of it's most profitable years ever, retard
>Shitty graphical update "remakes" cashing in on fake rumors circulating for years and presented in the most "NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN" Style possible when their trailers drop
It's clear they've been probing a few english dominate sites for a while now.
I'm pretty sure they still got that Yu-Gi-Oh card money but if the lawsuit they did to CyGames fails they will a backup and this is likely it.
Did you already forget about their huge Silent Hill push? Covid probably fucked up Konami's gambling and sports clubs.
I actually really enjoyed Sutherland as big boss, I would've loved if they got him to voice this game and then brought Hayter back to voice solid in the inevitable remake 1 and 2, but oh well, this is alright as well.
>see capcom making bank with remakes
>maybe games are le good after all
pathetic
I sure hope the developer has the original raw sound files for Metal Gear Solid 3 because having Playstation 2 voicelines in a 2023 Playstation 5 game is going to be extremely janky and distracting.
My parents made me listen to dvd quality once. I keyed their cars. fuckin boomers
That’s not true at all. CD quality is fine. DVD quality is way above fine.
The ps3/360 port already had better audio than the ps2 version, they are gonna use it
Why can't these stupid gays just port the 360 collection, charge $20 for it and watch the cash flow in?
I'm so fucking tired of these gayass remasters and remakes. They all fucking suck ass bar none
they're also doing that
>not snake back
Missed opportunity.
it says volume 1. rest of the games are also coming
stop your hoe bitch ass complaining
>Vol. 2
>Portable Ops HD
>Portable Ops Plus HD
>Metal Gear Ac!d HD
There is no Vol. 3
The ps3 got the last laugh Gankerros!
As the single person that really liked Portable Ops I'd like that.
It was my first hands on Metal Gear before I went back to 1 and 2 so I'd really would like to see that as long as it was reasonably priced.
i started the stupid "PoOps" nickname way back when and i regret it because i really liked portable ops too. especially after kojima released that shitty tpp
>The narrative for the past decade is that 4 is complete shit and irredeemable, can just be watched on youtube instead of being played
>actually porting it would take an absurd amount of effort between relicensing shit or removing stuff like the ipod and macbook, clearing the live action scenes for reuse, getting a PSX emulator hooked in for the act 4 opener
I can see why they aren't doing it.
Waste all that time so people can just not buy the game because talk around 4 has soured to a point where it straight up would be a less profitable venture than a port collection of PSP games.
>2024
>MGS4 is still a playstion 3 exclusive
it says Vol 1. MGS4 and Peace Walker will be next.
No way 4 is coming. Doesn't that have a lot of licensing stuff like the literal ipod in the game?
They'll just remove the ipod and change it into some generic music player. Licensing stuff never has an effect on re-releases since they can just remove shit.
That's the power of The CELL™ baby!
4 is a technical nightmare, its probably easier to remake it than to port it.
>hur dur power of the cell impossibru to port
This meme needs to end, it's absolutely going to be ported. Take out some licensed things like the iPod etc (other games have done this) and they'll figure it out.
ok Einstein, if it's a dumb meme then explain why every other MGS game was ported several times to PX and other consoles, but 4 is still rotting on PS3? if it's just licenses why no one did it before?
MGS2 and 3 were ported to the PS3 and the 360 which was the same console generation as MGS4, which PS3 had exclusivity.
Why would MGS4 be ported to the same generation? All mainline games are now being ported together.
tell me then why it can be emulated without major problems, at 60fps, in pcs that are supposed to be worst to the last console of sony?
?t=66
will you tell me that a gtx 970 is better?
ps5 is not powerful enough to do it?
Can Konami get away with selling you a rom and PS3 emulator for current gen consoles and steam?
no silly, I'm not saying that they sell you emulation
I'm saying that if a team that are not involved in the industry, and don't have millions to spend, could emulate the game in a few years, why not a company that has the money to do it, doesn't invest to port the game?
are you really saying that it is easier for them to remake a entire game instead of porting it??
>POORLY CODED EMULATOR
>BUGS AT 30FPS
you didn't see the video, did you?
No ports are better stop bein a retard.
No one wants to use your shitty emulator that fucks up with a resolution higher then 4:3
What video PSXe2 or what ever fuckin has so many glitches.
Stop bein mad emulation moron no one cares.
no, you are the retard for not knowing what I'm talking about, and for not watching the video
and besides you are talking about a ps2 emulator that has nothing to do with ps3 emulation
No your just bein a gay cause this port is gonna make what ever shitty emulator you shill for is gonna become obsolete.
How many time do I have to mention this?
>During my first week as a Konami employee working on Metal Gear Solid 4, I’ll never forget seeing the profound disappointment on my colleagues’ faces when they began to dig deep into the first-run PlayStation 3 development kits.
>Like the public at large, the Kojima Productions team believed Sony’s hyperbole about its incredible next-gen hardware; however, when it came down to actually pushing pixels through the PS3, everyone was underwhelmed. The team was warned ahead of time that the hardware would be difficult to develop for, but they had no idea how bad it would end up being.
>Despite how downtrodden my colleagues were with developing on PS3, most of them were still hardcore Sony fans and were not in favor of spending resources on such a test. They believed MGS 4 would look and run terribly on Microsoft’s older and inferior hardware.
>One fateful day, the Konami R&D team hosted a meeting where we got to see the fruits of their labor—Metal Gear Solid 4 running beautifully and smoothly on an Xbox 360. As one of the few unabashed Xbox fans in the office, I was excited.
>The prevailing belief around the industry was that Sony must have secured an exclusive deal for the game. It wasn’t true. Had Kojima chosen to port the game to Xbox 360, his bosses would surely have approved the decision, but he wasn’t ready to make the jump.
MGS4 was confirmed to be running on 360, Vita and Metal Gear Arcade being on MGS4 engine with MGS4 assets on Windows.
why don't you attach a name to the quote? It sounds like an absolute ass-pull if it's not from a reputable source
Ryan Payton, MGS4's assistant producer
https://mega.nz/file/scVgxLQJ#cIC_4qxr8yIgKs7mqLXwaAgs2LQrPNdRd0pNcqLNWnc
But the PS3 can match it with competent devs.
Just cuz they hire japanese script kiddies fresh out of college
Kojima is such a dipshit for not making MGS4 multiplatform
>1:1 remake for cutscenes and level design but gameplay is a modernized AAA title
No way this shit turns out good, that shit is gonna have a knock-on effect where they go make changes in some places and it completely fucks up aspects that worked before but doesn't anymore, imagine what a joke most of the bosses would be in MGS3 with modern TPS controls, this is gonna be Twin Snakes 2: Electric Boogaloo
I liked twin snakes
Oh fuck off. After the shit they pulled with FFVIIRE and RE4RE I will gladly take the same game again, but with updated visuals and slightly tweaked controls.
So long as I don't see Snake doing matrix flips, I'll take it
>So long as I don't see Snake doing matrix flips
but impossible ricochet shots and literal ghosts you don't mind? people draw the weirdest lines over what they think is silly in MGS
yes anon, it may soumd stupid to you but theres a limit to how much silly shit you can get away with on a story that takes itself seriously... Going overboard gives you shit like Fast and the Furious, and i know MGS is dumb af but I know it can also refrain to fall that low
So just to be clear,
guy doing a sick flip off an rpg: silly as fuck, ruins it
guy who can control electricity because of midichlorians pulls wires out of a tank and uses them like horse reins to control it: totally fine
I'd be ok with it if you were talking about the same dude, anon
But yes Snake should be more grounded and he shouldn't be able to do the same Crazy shit that a Freaking Cyborg Ninja, a Hind D attack chopper or the Super mutant electric russian commander can...
its like gameplay Dante and cutscene Dante, DMC doesn't take itself seriously. MGS for the most part does, they want you to get a message and see what Snake has to offer as the main character against impossible odds.
if you take the limits out, just make a curazeeeyh game like Rising, Bayonneta and etc. dont even bother telling me this is solid Snake or Big Boss anymore
Even Kojima shat on MG when they made Survive and had you traveling time, killing crystal zombies
Snake, the player character, is somewhat grounded, the baddies are the ones with retarded anime powers
Those ricochet shots and ghosts were natively in MGS3 and fitted the theme. Twin snakes totally fucked the theme with flips. That's the difference.
If they reuse the original voices and keep the original ost as well it will already be a million times better than twin snakes.
>MGS3 with modern TPS controls
here
>19 years old
>modern
Literally MGS3 on the 3ds had crouch walking and over the shoulder aim and it didn’t affect shit
See? Don't fucking worry about Konami adding anything unnecessary or incongruent to the game; that would require effort, and effort costs monnneeeyyy! They won't even pay to re-record anything, they will be re-using all the old voice lines!
What will pc specs be like I wonder. Probably 4090 for 1080p30 at medium settings.
I'm expecting
>exact same motion capture data for cutscenes
>barely any effort to improve lip sync
>same exact animations during gameplay
>re-used audio so they don't have to pay voice actors (konami has always treated their voice actors like complete shit)
This will be a graphics update with some quality of life improvements to UI and a seamless world without any screen transitions between areas.
Okay Ganker, how can konami make the motorcycle segment for the remake less boring?
But is Evas design still the same, and are the lewd scenes also sitll the same?
she was in the patchinko and they are using the same assets
don't look to be, compare naked snake even
why is everyone getting so mad? They are literally releasing the original game on PC and modern consoles later this year. Who gives a fuck about a remake?
Because Konami are scum. If they just didn't act short sighted profit driven they could have kept Kojima and made Silent Hills and MGS 6 that would have had real artistic integrity
>MGS 6
not even kojima would have wanted to do that
He always says that, then a light bulb goes off for a Liquid Snake game in the gulf war and it just happens
>They are literally releasing the original game on PC and modern consoles later this year.
I haven't been keeping up with the news, is this serious? If so fucking good on Konami, 10/10 no notes. If I was the lord of gaming I'd make it mandatory for every remaster/remake to also re-release or come bundled with the original.
see
Nice. Konami doesn't always make the best decisions but then they do something like this.
When you say original, are we talking metal gear? Or metal gear solid 1?
Are you asking if I was the lord of gaming or for what Konami is actually going to do? If the original MSX game came with PS1 MGS1 it could've set a nice standard for the industry.
Both.
When Konami is going to release the original, is that Metal gear?
If you'd be the lord of gaming and you'd release the original, would that be Metal Gear?
From my understanding Konami are going to release all 3 original Solid games, MGS1, 2 and 3.
I I was the lord of gaming and I was in charge of this remake, I'd force it to come bundled with the original, which I guess would also involve the very first Metal Gear game. If Konami moved faster they probably could've already done some MSX collection. There's some fun games on there.
So how is the MGS1 re release gonna work around the Meryl codec?
It's going to come with a digital case for the artwork section, similar to how the virtual console release of star tropics comea with a digital letter
they can have it in a digital manual like the PS3 digital edition
>war in ukraine
good time to do it I suppose
I'll be surprised if it is closer to a remaster, aka same game, sharper textures. Maybe that just goes to show how solid, no pun intended, of a game it is but to skimp out on MGS while having Silent Hill 2 get a major overhaul just sounds stupid. I guess for SH2R they can just copy the RE remakes wholesale, no such luck for a game like MGS.
MGS3 was a better made game than SH2, and I love SH2, but lets be honest
I'm only confused since I imagine it's more expensive to remake SH2, having to rework everything from the ground up, than to just give MGS3 a spit shine. Maybe I'm just overthinking it.
SH2 is a smaller game to begin with and its outsourced to blobber team, no way it's ore expensive than this. Plus even back them the gameplay mechanics of SH2 were dated , because it was a PS1 game rushing to PS2, theres a lot of room for improvement when compared to Snake Eater
>they got Suzetta Miñet back
nice
so she's real ?
Is she a real person, yes
Is 'Suzetta Miñet' her real name, no
She already came back for some tapes in Peace Walker six years later, so she must've enjoyed the role
Why'd you post a picture of a brick wall?
Isn't the voice actor for the boss dead
It's just going to be the reused audio, this isn't a proper remake
which boss
Boss, The.
Lori Alan and Kikuko Inoue, both seem to be alive but they're not going to record new audio
No, her Family Guy character got killed off.
>Xbox
>Steam
No... Sonybros...
The initial trailer made it looks PS5 exclusive which it isn't. Snoys are such gays
But why? The illusion didn't even last 24 hours.
It made it look exclusive because they didn't add the logos for the other platforms, for a trailer shown during their own showcase? Retard.
If that remake doesn't have Snake vs. Monkey mode on it, I'm not buying it
Here is the big question: will it be easier/quicker to switch camos?
AND
Will the eating mechanic be less fucking arduous, especially starving fucking meryl at the end or whoever that chick was, eve. She fucking eats liked a starbed hound dog so fkimg annoying and she is slow.
MGS3 Delta is going to add Skull Face. Calling it now.
But what does Kojima think?
DS2 is at summer game fest and not Playstation showcase
I don't know to feel if it ends up being the exact same game. They're already porting the original MGS3 to current platforms, so why even bother with an even shinier remaster?
remaster for the fanboys, remake for newbies
I want one small change.
Add extra five minutes to the ladder climbing.
>sutherbrothers
So all two of you that enjoyed his 15 minutes of voice lines(including grunts)
>Konami re-hiring a millions dollars actor for a remake
lmao
Anyone else not excited for this at all? I loved 3 when it came out but my patience has decreased. I can't stand cutscenes or long dialogue segments anymore. I'm currently playing through The Witcher 2 and i've skipped half the conversations. Jesus christ just tell me who or what to kill and fuck off.
YOOOOO UNREAL ENGINE DRAG AND DROP DEFAULT LIGHTING WITH NO ART DIRECTION HOLY CRAP IM GONNA CUM ITS SO REALISTIC
>Ganker is unironically defending a remake that involves literally 0 original staff and exists only to making fucking Konami money
What happened to all the SH2R hate? You guys are just fucking slaves to nostalgia huh.
Looks fine to me, gonna play it day one on Steam Deck
I wonder what they're intention is with this? I know how heavily autistic people on here are about changes, but there's no game from 20 years ago that wouldn't benefit from some modern design elements
Let me guess, piss filters are le good now?
>creating a deliberate atmosphere using colors and contrast is le bad, bland photorealism is le good
I wish zoomers would go back to eating tide pods
I want the piss filter back
>Remake MGS3 with modern graphics and controls so you don't have to use the crab claw grip
>Keep the same story, same voices, everything
This is literally the best we could've hoped for
I unironically hate this modern zoomer contrarian position of, "looks fine to me, I'm going to enjoy it! Haha at having standards, frfr" that tries to muscle out any discussion that's fun to have. The majority aren't even saying it because they sincerely hold the opinion, they're just knee-jerk parroting it because they know it gets a response.
>shilled rush
I unironically hate this dated Gen Xer contrarian position of, "looks soulless, I'm going to keep playing the 20 year old game! Haha at my odds of having sex, forever" that tries to muscle out any discussion that's fun to have. The majority aren't even saying it because they sincerely hold the opinion, they're just knee-jerk parroting it because they know it gets a response.
An attempt was made
the last mainstream western release I bought was halflife alyx, before that witcher 3 9 years ago. I bought 2make and 4make because capcom is the lone company still occasionally making decent action horror. I have standards but if there's a game that's basically singular in the industry that comes out and interests me I'm not abstain out of a moral crusade.
Welcome to Ganker, kid
who the fuck wanted mgs 3 instead of 2?
Anyone that doesn't slurp semen by choice.
2 is my fave MGS game, but come on, starting a tring a remakes wth anything other than 1 or 3 would be stupid
They're remaking MGS3 because it's the first game on the timeline, they omitted "3" from the title for a reason
LISTEN TO THE KINO ONE LAST TIME
George is streaming mgs3 right now
There go all your theories about ESG Solid: DEI Eater. It's going to be faithful. At worst, the sex appeal will be toned down. They aren't adding black and trans characters to appease Blackrock.
Virtuos is an America dev team. Eva will have a cock and BB will suck it.
all men will have vaginas and women cocks but you won't be able to see that because devs will hide it under the clothes
They're adding some black russian soldiers at the least and giving sigint 2x the amount of lines and radio time.
If this was an actual remake they wouldn't have sandwiched it between two mobile games in a shitty sony direct. It's a HIRE THIS MAN Unreal project with the original voice acting
They don't have the capacity to do anything like that. I guarantee you they'll recycle some Pachinko slot cutscenes for the game to save on resources.
They are going to change the gameplay surely to adapt to new players like in Re4RE
well Re4RE ruined the perfect gameplay the original game had in order to make the game harder
i doubt they will do the same with mgs3
they might add the QoL improvements from MGSV into it like croutch walking, TPS shooting and the better CQC system
maybe . MAYBE the quick dive
but half of those things are already in mgs3d
yes, I'm afraid they'll ruin the gameplay
The trailer had no soul
amazes me how many goyslop consumers reacted to this trailer.
>no "A Hideo Kojima Production"
> a less than 2 minute teaser. while kojima goes big and hard on reveals.
DS1 has a shitty announcemet trailer too, and he showed no gameplay for a year
So are we finally going to find out who Eva is? Or are they reusing the old cast?
>another MGS3 remake
Why?
So it's just a graphics overhaul of Subsistence?
I hope Snake still has those goofy smiles
Don't care, when's revengeance remake?
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>remake
kys tardo
>filename
retarded opinion on games aside, did you take this pic? where did you buy the creepypasta book from?
In the trash where it belongs
Good, why did Kojima even get Sutherland instead of the iconic Snake voice
He didn't replace the Japanese va
>hayter
Literally who
I don't have much faith in Konami pulling this off. It will be bad.
This probably not being too big-budget of a project actually gives me a bit more confidence. I don't want an FF7R style "remake". How would you even do that anyway for a series that already makes a big point of subverting plot and gameplay expectations? Make everything actually go smoothly and go the way that a newcomer might first expect?
I smoke before I work out to make my lungs work harder and increase cardio stress.
I SMOKE CAUSE IT GIVES ME KNOWLEDGE
>metal gear official
Is it, tho?
Big and based if true. Are they re-recording their lines?
I mean all this says to me is just "minimal effort", fuck it pay the original actors rather record or do anything new with them in their roles.
Its not like the original staff and game director doesn't work for them any more so they have no input into how to further script the game right?
... You fucking idiots, Konami.
>fuck it pay the original actors rather record or do anything new with them in their roles
This was a disaster last time they did it, fuckhead
It was necessary because MGS1 was so early in game voice acting that most of the English cast was under a stage name in case it somehow broke their guild rules so it was recorded in a apartment building meant you could hear traffic on newer sound cards.
Now the question is if Jodi Benson can be credited properly this time.
Will the removed historical footage be added back in?
probably not because the description of the games already mentions the game is going to have some minor edits from the original releases so most likely thats referring to the stockfootage
I don't want it to be the exact same but with better graphics. I've already played MGS3 to death, remixing the scenario with more open areas to stealth, more animals, changing up the boss fights, that'd be best. Graphical uplift plus better controls is boring.
Where the fuck is Caramel? I want to read his schizo ramblings.
>SON OF A FUCKING BITCH
I've only seen Japanese accounts actually mention Kerotan for some reason
I'm glad the piss filter is gone, get fucked you whiny morons, the game looks amazing
I just want a Halo 2 remaster treatment, maybe add modern MGS V controls and movement, and its perfect
Okay I'm triggered. Halo 2A was fucking ASS, it literally looked worse than CE anniversary which was a 360 game! 1A stayed pretty true to the original, 2A ruined almost every single color palette and setting. Not to mention the god awful redone music and sound effects. 343's only good achievement was Halo 1 Anniversary and some parts of 4.
this except flip cea with 2a in every single use of those games
moron go play Delta Halo switch back and forth a few times then come us how tasteless you are.
i won't because gaylo 2 is and will always be shit
cea has an even worse art style than 2a, they straight up put gaylo reach marines in it lmao
"Sutherbrothers" aren't Metal Gear fans, it was a shit performance. Not to say he can't do it, Jack Bauer was great, but holy shit he was boring in this one. His fault or the direction? Who knows. Regardless it was a missed opportunity for Sutherland to be V and Hayter to be Ishamel.
>no true scottsman
He didn’t even talk that much. He was fine regardless though. He sounded like a more realistic snake, the voice was still very gruff.
MGSVsisters, it's truly over.
Every single person who is celebrating this remake, or any other remake, should be killed.
Imagine taking video game entertainment this seriously. Touch grass unironically.
psychopaths like you are the reason kojima was forced to make mgs4
Kojima wasn’t forced to do anything unless he had a binding contract. That is nonsense.
https://www.metagearsolid.org/reports_mgs4_kojimaVSmgs4.html
>Speaking about why he decided to head the latest MGS game, Kojima revealed that he received a number of death threats (not from CVG) after announcing that he would be less involved in the project. "The staff heard about this and got very nervous," said Kojima. "We talk today as if it was a joke, but at the time, it was not a joke at all. It was serious."
That’s not force, he still ultimately made the decision.
>That’s not force
Completely unrelated instance.
fear for your own life is nonsense to you?
>make a series where one of the themes is soldiers laying down their arms and choosing peace despite the implied consequences - that there’s always a choice
>I had no choice to work on 4 guys
Ironic
Why not do a full on remake of the original Metal Gear that was on NES ( I know the real version was on something else forgot what it was some Jap shit)
>Ganker spends most of the 2010s lamenting about how shitty yellow and green and blue filters are
>remake comes out that removes filters to give an old game more natural colors
>"actually filters are based and soulful and I always loved them up my ass"
You guys did the same shit with RE4R because it removed QTEs which you could not get one single person on here to defend before that remake came out.
Now if they just keep the crouch walking and third person shooting from the 3DS version, it will be perfect.
>Solidus is the actual perfect clone of Big Boss
They should've got John Cygan to do 5's Big Boss before he died bros...
His voice was perfect too.